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  • It really annoys me what some people do with LS engines

  • Would an LS1 or rotary engine be best for drifting?

  • @XxTOxICiTYxX1227 an ls1 is better due to its already sizable amount of torque compared to  a rotory

  • i like skittles

  • @CMI1986X64

    id rather spend my time driving a reliable car more of the time and less time costantly worrying about when my 13b uis gonna throw another temper tantrum.

  • @CMI1986X64

    Well said. Not to mention the gas mileage that you will save. the 13b is a VERY thirsty engine. this is how REAL car guys talk. too many people are stuck on brand/motor/whatever loyalty. I have owned six count them 123456 rx7's all with rotary's and the were all some of the most fun driving experiences that i have had driving, but with grannysspeed shop and hinson both making swapping in such a great motor as the ls1 very easy, if i do get another rx it will be receiving a v8.

  • Dude idk this stuff doesnt seem right to me, ive watched lots of 500whp stang videos and in every one their gears are just wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhh i mean dude ive got a 600hp (at the flywheel) mach 1 and my 2nd gear is instantly over 3rd takes about 2 seconds to go thru and 4th maybe like 4 or 5 seconds and by that time im doing 130+mph these videos just dont seem like they are 500 rwhp

  • @CMI1986X64 Really? I think I could beat this rustang with a 350 buick powered 1st gen rx7 at 2300 lbs quite handlely. The 350 buick is the same weight as a 302 ford....450 pounds....now Ill just add an aluminum intake that just took 40 pounds off. Now if i can add boost to the car like good ol ford boy did it might just equal things out. I will take the "tubs and twins" twin turbo setup for 3 grand. lets race.....

  • Yes Cobra won

  • lol lets spend more money and get less, and more unusable power. worst conversion ever.

  • @spoonspoon1984 What do you mean more unusable? The power curve on an LS1 is much flatter than the 13B, making power delivery much more predictable and usable. Also, LS1's don't blow up nearly as often as the 13B. You'll spend far more money continually repairing the 13B than doing the swap. Oh, and the LS1 only weighs 60 pounds more. And on top of that, it has much healthier aftermarket support than the 13B.

  • @spoonspoon1984 Did you bump your head? Having 300 ft lbs of torque at the flywheel by 2.5k RPM is very usable. A bone stock LS1 is rated at 300 hp but it actually puts that down to the wheels. Not many cars can lay down what they are rated at from the factory. Anyone who knows rotaries is aware of their gas consumption and they are lethargic under 4500 RPM. In the long run the owner will spend less on maintenance and can save for upgrades as a few bolt-ons and 350+ whp is easy

  • rx7 needs only a tune and it would pull the cobra

  • woulda won if he kept the rotary motor in it!

  • svt terminator cobra shits on that jap scrap

  • weakkkkkk pussy-ass cobra driver shoulda kept going

  • what was that shit god damn

  • That was NOT a race. The RX7 was lookin at the driver's door handle the whole fucking time! Then, of course pony boy mashes the Brembo's...

  • Cobra won...he let off after a few hundred feet of being ahead. sorry RX7

  • @CMI1986X64 Credit isn't due though. I give credit to companies that push engineering, that make engines that may be smaller but are better and more powerful. Take BMW, 4ltr V8 with 550hp. Ford 5ltr V8 with 470hp (in Australia) both these engines are absolutely brilliant V8s. The LS family are so unbelievably backwards. "We need more horsepower" 'MAKE IT BIGGER' "We could just change the valve timing or switch to OHC" 'NO MAKE IT BIGGER NOW! BIGGER IS THE ONLY ANSWER!'

  • @BAXTSPRCHRGD My thoughts exactly.

  • @BAXTSPRCHRGD Credit is due, the ls1 is old. Take a look at a Ls3, it's smaller then a 5.0 from ford (physically), they both get almost the same amount of mpg (Camaro and Mustang), and they both push out similar HP and TQ numbers. About pushing engineering they are, dinosaur tech keeping up with DOHC engines that says something about GMs engineers and their engines.

  • @jdogtheonly1 LS1 old? ain't no such thing as an old Chevy engine. As long as it's hauling ass it's NEW!

  • @ladygodia Lol yea, i wasn't trying to put the Ls1 down i just wanted to make a point. He was trying to compare a Ls1 to the new coyote 5.0 which in my mind isn't a fair comparison.

  • @BAXTSPRCHRGD I agree. Ford took a step by making the new mustang DOHC. The v6 now pots out what the old gt did. They still have a ways to go but it's definately a step.

  • @BAXTSPRCHRGD I forgot to add. It's cost about the same to make a LS7 7L pushrod engine as it does to make the new m3 motor S85 but I agree...I also drive a BMW too lol

  • @CMI1986X64 But it isn't. It's just cheap and easily found.

  • LS1, idiots will put it in ANYTHING!

  • KEEP LS1 IN GM VEHICLES!!!!!!!!!

  • @DylonTheGreat521 engine swap hater lol

  • @dragus213 lol i like RX7s and tuners it just doesn't work for me seeing a v8 in those cars...

  • Keep the Wankel in it! WIth a v8, its just another musclecar. Don't see very many rotary cars on the road anymore that aren't gay ass RX8's.

  • @powerviking that's because the rotary motors suck ass, why the hell do you think people swap them out for a V8? MORE power, MORE reliability, LESS maintenance. It's the easiest decision to make.

  • Wow how embarrassing. After all that work on the franken 7 it performs like that.

    Ouch you should had left it rotary and gone with an upgraded turbo. So in cases like this just make sure you have enough fuel, just turn up the boost, and you're gone

  • @worldofthunder this is a STOCK LS1 making 380ish hp. Heads cam and intake are good for 420 at least.

  • @MangoSmoothie16  there rated 345 in the c5 , how is it 380

  • @luvscience44 damn it. I guess I was looking at the LS6. I dont even remember the point of my comment anyway.

  • @MangoSmoothie16 Yeah im not trying to make you look bad. just letting you know.

  • neither one really sounded like they were giving it their all

  • My bad the super charged car makes 45 more horses lol...

  • @therusty06 with a bit of tuning the rotary performs better than the ls1 and even if the ls1 makes more power stock is still wrong to put it in. . thats like me getting a classic american muscle car and putting a japanese engine in it. . not only is it dumb its embarrasing iswell. .

  • @Antonio001z It might make more hp per cubic inch but THATS IT. a 1.3 making 130hp is more powerful than a 5.7 making 500hp in that regard but who cares when the other guy has 500 horses.

  • @Antonio001z I actually previously had a RX-7.. the rotary is unreliable.. hard to tune for.. and over priced for the power you get. The LS1 is a more sure-fire way to get the power, it's more reliable, and cheaper. Not too mention it's an easier mod than rebuilding a wankle motor..

  • @TheTrentimus to add to that, the engine has crazy oil leak after owning it for more then a couple months. thats with regular maintenance changing the oil every 3K miles. That rotary engine is hard to maintain. The engine itself is amazing though.

  • Check out the video Dougnuts Found On Bird Road .

  • if you kept the rotary you would have won stupid american

  • @Antonio001z This is one fight he can't argue with lol Im American but them fuck'n Rotary motors especially the turbo versions are wicked fast

  • @Antonio001z your an idiot. That ls1 is lighter and makes more power stock....

  • @TheRusty06 Ls1 stock 345, Cobra stock 390.

  • @BigSloan413 oh and I was referring to the guy who said the rotary motor would have been better if left in..reasoning behind the lighter and more power stock...

  • @TheRusty06 Oh ok gotcha! Then your very right.

  • @TheRusty06 no, youre an idiot. The LS1 is NOT lighter than a 13b OR a 20b. go check the numbers. does your LS1 engine weigh less than 25kg? ROFL.

  • @RemixEvolution May I ask where you got the ridiculous weight from? 25kg? you better have been mad sarcastic.. There light... but not that light guy

  • @TheRusty06 sorry, they make far from the same power stock. terminators made 380-390 to the wheels BONE STOCK! ls1's made anywhere from 260-320 to the wheels stock. do some research. btw, ls1's don't come with a forged crank and manely forged h-beam rods and support over 1000 hp on the stock block, the terminators do....

  • @tj306notch 390 at the crank not the wheels. Its called BHP brake horsepower and its measured at the crank no manufacturer measures it at the wheels.

  • @wsimpson86 are you really that stupid? its BRAKE horsepower the amount of power at the BRAKES not the crank bhp is the same a whp

  • @TheBoostDoctor omg you seriously don't know anything do you brake horsepower has nothing to do with the brakes of a car. BHP is the horsepower at the crank the not the wheels google it you fucking moron.

  • @wsimpson86 yes, ford rated it at 390 at the crank but they underrated it. go look up some baseline dyno pulls of stock terminators and you'll see what i'm talking about

  • @tj306notch Ok and if you knew anything you'd realize dyno numbers are not always accurate a lot of shops don't calibrate their dyno like they should and so you don't get the real numbers. I know my instructor owns his own shop and I've been there many times. If you don't believe he's creditable then look him up Ron Bilyeu.

  • @Antonio001z NOT with a 12b he wouldnt of.

  • @Ryknfjor no such thing as 12b only 12a & 13b & 20b

  • @hamish48273 ah thank you for the correction i meant 12a

  • You know what i think is funny...how much you car about a drag race...drag racing is for fast cars, road racing is for fast drivers. Rotaries were made for the mountain, i have never seen in person or a video of any chevy beating an rx7 in a downhill race. Don't get me wrong, i like all cars, but its not that hard to drop money and go drive a car straight.

  • @Jevarx7 agreed

  • Benjenings - What on earth are you suppsed to be doing? Talking smack i hope not because if you think being beat by a yellow car is embarrasing, wait until you get be by a mustang made of rust, rott, cat piss and rat smell... Yeah I been there but that car also made around 550hp as opposed to my measly 210 stang :-) So if colors bother you, I would made a see through car if I was you :-)

  • LS1s13 - As I totally understand the reason for your comment about how rotaries are not junk. I have to agree BUT if you want that v8 power, you will have to spend more than what but a foxbody in good condition is worth. Also heaven forbid you have a ring leak. You have to spend another 3k just to get it right! Now a turbo 13b motor bareley makes as much power as a pos non PI-headed mustang or stock e7 headed foxbody. To make more power I can spend $1000 and make a good 60 more hp.

  • cobra was like "oh shit hes catching up, ill shall brake right now!"

  • @gtr3cords exactly what i would do... who races past 4th gear anyways? neither of these cars would go faster than 145mph in a 1/4 mile race anyways. winning a 5th gear highway pull against a s/c cobra isn't much to brag about.

  • He didn't just let off, he got on the brakes. Something must have been up ahead. The RX7 was starting to pull on him though.

  • it dont matter what you drop your chevy motor in. Dosnt change the fact chevys pulling the car. Leave your V8s out of RX-7s. Rotary has pleanty of potential. Mazda dont need help from anyone. SPECIALY chevy....

  • @MrCelicaspeed Rotaries are junk.

  • @LS1S13 Rotaries junk? ROFLMFAO Chevy is junk, Id roll in a Kia before a Chevy. Chevrolet is plain and simple... Cracked Heads Every Valve Rattles Oil Leaks Engine Ticks. goes same for GMC and Pontiac. glorified chevys. you can polish a turd but guess what... Its still a turd

  • @MrCelicaspeed Is that why a lot of people pull out their junk rotaries and swap in LS motors? Because they're junk? Probably not. Face it, rotaries are a failed design only kept alive by a handful of fan boys. Piston engines are just better, period.

  • @LS1S13 Do what. A variant of a rotary engine is still used fighter jets and other aircraft alike. They are a rotary turbine engine.

  • @MrCelicaspeed I just thought of one thing rotaries are better at than piston engines: breaking down. If you want to have your car sitting in your driveway/garage in pieces instead of driving it then a rotary is for you.

  • @LS1S13 lol i got nothin against piston engines. People like to belive rotaries are junk. The ones that do most times are chevy owners and they cant cope with the fact the Rotary can produce as much power as theyre V8s. Small motor big motor, IDC I like rotarys and piston engines. Far as the LS motors they need to be left in the crap they came in bc theyre a perfect match for eachother =)

  • @LS1S13 Ive actually never head of a rotary engine breaking down that bad. If they do actually break its a simple fix to get them back running. You most likely dont like rotary engines because you nothing about them and dont know how to fix them. The reason a lot of people say rotary engines are the most complicated thing to work on, is because they dont know anything about them. When in fact they are actually easier and less complicated to work on than a piston engine.

  • Every body know who won the race...why some people are keep saying LS1 rx7 won?

  • Even with the LS1 in this RX7, it still does a ricer fly by. hahaha love it.

  • @esvolcom08 how so? the cobra let off...its not like he knew it was going to happen...a ricer fly by is once he is beat and the race is CLEARLY over...they drop gears and speed past....

  • Oh what sexy sounds a belt drive makes!!!

  • He let off so the other guy could get the ticket lol

  • You just can't look tough in a yellow car . :(

  • @benjenings

    Says the guy who owns a civic

  • @papaown nothing feminine about driving a civic. And I love MUSTANGS, CAMAROS, And other fast cars.. just the yellow color i cant do. :)

  • @benjenings I have a yellow cobra and I look mad tough....Not really =[

  • @Kish4Life :)

  • @benjenings yeah but you would look like a beezy if you got beat by a yellow car lol.

  • @RobertMoua lol!

  • @RobertMoua The fucks a beezy?

  • @p10ghost It means Bitch Lol!

  • @RobertMoua Ohhh lol

  • @RobertMoua Then why don't just call them a bitch? Or are you afraid your mom's gonna come out oft of the house with a bar of soap? XD

  • @SpecialKLSX Lol i have to keep it censored for little kids at home;) so your mom and other moms will let you or whoever stay on the computer.

  • @SpecialKLSX HAHA. All kidding aside my mom lives with me. Figure I owe her that much for putting up with me when I was a little shit.

  • rx7 was catching up

  • @sparkalanio lol and ?

  • 7 needs heads and cams

  • I'd rather have an RX-7 that was slower but still had a rotary engine... Wtf is the purpose of putting a domestic V8 into an RX-7...

  • @qazwas2001 if that guy kept 13b and spend the money on turbo kit and seals, would have spank that ss,

  • @qazwas2001 i totally agree with you brother a rotary is a prized possession especially one with so much potential

  • he jams the brakes 0:08 - 0:09 thats the only time he wasnt in lead, when he got on the brakes

  • @Uzi910 yeah but your gonna have a pussy tell you cobras suck. thats how it always is

  • @FordSVT1313

    yea I noticed, specially how on youtube someone with a honda will comment on a vid and say something like "Id kill that snake" yet in real life the same person wouldnt even race one, but that wouldnt matter to the snake owner, since theyre so much fun

  • @FordSVT1313 seriously, both of these cars are quick i have respect for both of them

  • @FordSVT1313 i agree

  • this rx-7 should blow up to little pieces for having a ls1 and not a 13b

  • @shadowchild13B Anyone who talks like you has simply never owned a V8, and it's so painfully obvious to those of us that have. I used to be just like you man....oh how much wiser I am now. My next FD will be LS powered.....I can't wait!

  • @raptorlp03 your right i never owned one but never will i have been in a gto and yea the ls1 is a beast but keep it in american cars not in a jap car.i love fc's ever since i was 10 and a goddamn happy owner of one.but what i love the most is the 13b motor...is a small,light weight and high rpm and packs a punch for such a small motor.but yea seeing a fc with a ls1 what is the point of getting a jap car

  • @shadowchild13B The thing is, the ls1 weighs just as much as a 13b motor. Also, an rx7 with an ls1 swap will have all the power and reliability of a v8, in a small, lightweight, and good handling car.

  • So, basically you have a Mustang vs a Corvette? I bet i'll beat both of you with my 13b Rx-7.

  • Yeah I do they can be nasty when built up but some guys just prefer the sound of muscle and not rice

  • Why would anyone put an american engine in the place of a Rotary...I mean thats like putting helen keller's brain into chuck norris's body...

  • @UGotKilledByACamper ummmm wow. you put an ls1 in an rx7 and its pretty damn fast because the rx7 is so light. you dont know shit about cars

  • @TheLS1GTO Lol really? i suppose you know nothing about rotories then...

  • @UGotKilledByACamper

    "I mean thats like putting helen keller's brain into chuck norris's body."

    that would be an entirely new level of awesome this world is not ready for.

    chuck norris for obvious reasons

    helen kellers brain? are you kidding? the lady understood and spoke american english words without being able to see or hear....so, yeah a new level of epicness would occur if that ever happened.

  • some people dont read descriptions. THERE IS NO FUCKING ROTORY MOTOR IN THE RX-7! btw both car amazing.

  • There is nothing rotary about his engine. So please stfu.

    It's a ls1. A chevy motor.

  • a guy that I know, sells his mazda rx7 for 23 thousand, 27k miles, 1993, for that money, you can buy two mustang cobras. lol

  • @museman007 umm?? only one actually?

  • @museman007 I wouldnt say 2, you can get 1 and buy a kenne bell and some other goodies with that and go spank RX-7`s all day..

  • @pfcrobinson sometimes, my friend, it' doesn't matter what car is faster, I would go for that mazda, even if the cobra is faster, matter of fact, the cobra has a V8, 4.6 DOHC, (I own a '94 mark VIII, same engine), that mazda has no cyllinder (one in rotary motor).. so are you sticking with the mustang?

  • @museman007 what i meant was you get more bang for your buck, because parts for rotary engines are very expensive, so id still stick with the cobra man..

  • @pfcrobinson LMAO ITS NOT A TOYOTA its an ls1 PUSHROD engine. not a redheaded stepchild rotary

  • @museman007 two mustang cobras for 23,000? LOL a 03-04 Cobra is about 18,000 alone

  • @07Z06ss well, I was talking about same year cars, I would go for the mazda rather than the cobra, nothing to do with american muscle or japanese imports, I just like the damn car, you see mustangs everywhere, it's a shame I can't afford that mazda.. (broke ass motherfucker)

  • @museman007 yeaaa bet the cobra is more expensive dude

  • @museman007 yea this just shows how well u know ur cars buddy lol

  • looks as if the ls1 was reeling him in. nice cobra tho, some people don't like doing 120+ on highway roads filled with traffic so it's not like the cobra was in the wrong for slowing down :P

  • cobra won gf ricer

  • Damn nice run! Just goes to show it all comes down to power to weight ratio.

  • damn that cobra beat that guy pretty good lol

  • cobra hit the brakes dip shit. 

  • cosmo power no ?

    LS is cheap enough... but stick with rotarys.

  • The Rx7 is fantastic now that the junk rotary is gone.

  • @Rotaryisgarbage must be a pretty special engine for you to spend so much time going through rotary videos with your dedicated account posting comments like this having countless arguments with people who have a hobby of tuning a unique production engine in history. of corse a piston engine is more reliable otherwise we would see rotary in every car today. having a rotary is just something out of the ordinary n that makes it fun. is that so hard to understand?

  • @lejink Stay on topic idiot, watch the vid and try to stay clear of my personal life. I know it interests you but this is a car youtube vid.

  • @Rotaryisgarbage the topic is whatever the conversation leads to. nice job ignoring everything else i said though.

    did i hit a soft spot? dont cry :(

  • @lejink LOL...look at my other posts on youtube. I have no soft spot.

    Yes the rotary is unique and novel, and it is cool that people work on them. However it is the die hard rotary guys that are worth a damn do not respond to my posts, only the idiot ones. Are we learning something yet?? :)

  • @lejink its based on preference and opinion...just like v8 guys hate on i4 guys...its pointless, and retarded...but theres nothing you can do about it, "stupid is as stupid does"

  • @AviaMarine ok forest gump

  • he braked.

  • why you dont buy a cobra...

  • @DCbojangles and why? because he pressed the brakes? so your saying because cobras have brakes dont buy them?

  • @DarkHour404 Yea dude i mean come on brakes slow you down so why would you want them on a fast car? Take them offf and lose some weight. i mean come on. common sense right? lol hahahahhahahahahhahahah

    PS that was complete bullshit what i just said

  • @DarkHour404 im not a mustang fan but this cobra is alright just too back i dont like their plenums upper and lower they'er shitty i've seen a fuew come to the shop i work at i havent seen many but every single owner that has come to complain bout the same problem idle is fucked up and what not there is no vacumm build up that the idle is way off some ppl tried changing the intake manifold gaskets ect and still the same shit it turned out that the plenums worped so thats what i dont like

  • @Z32spdstr Wow, I didn't know you could have a incomplete, AND, a run-on sentence at the very same time. Nice COBRA, BTW.

  • @DarkHour404 yeah bro, brakes are terrible for cars to have lol

  • ricer fly by.

    lol jk.

  • not hatin on the v8 but id rather just bridgeport the stock engine and twin turbo it...because honestly i think that if u cant make the car as fast as u want it to be then get another car...it just ruins the integrity of the car for me

  • THAT WAS A STOCK COBRA FUCKEN RICERS !!!!! SPEND YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU EARN IT WHICH IS AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL LETS HELP OUR ECONOMY BUY A REAL CAR

  • @mustanggt1996rules try turn a corner

  • @mustanggt1996rules Its not rice you jackass, learn a little bit. It has a LS1 motor in it, i dont hear a loud fucking annoying ass exhaust... I wouldnt assume it has NoS because it already has a lot of power. Dont be hating because this RX7 would whup your 96 Shitstang. I hate that generation Mustang... UGLY

  • @ResidentG33k man fuck you suck

  • @ResidentG33k i like my 98 cobra and how it looks :) but yea not rice. it had an american heart transplant lol

  • woow

  • why does the title say ls1 rx7 fc if its not an ls1???? im confused

  • wonder whats done to this rx7? cuz if its a stock ls1 hes pushin around 330 to the wheels and that terminator has 500 hp? id be embarrased that a car with 170hp ran less than a car slower to me, and ive always done 40 to 120, when its 120 or 145 whatever you decide to go to is when ya stop. still.... lovin the ls1 rx-7

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  • @matman142 "who said its an LS1?" well the description says VERY CLEARLY thats its an LS1 rx7 V8... LS1 V8 is not a rotary engine. 

  • @392texasred an rx7 with an LS1 is a boatload lighter than an 03-gen cobra in stock form, and I doubt someone would stop at putting a stock ls1 into the RX-7 if they spent the time and money doing the swap in the first place.

  • Wow ,.....mustang couldnt stand a loss with 100 hp more so he backed off while he was ahead....typical bitch ford....LOSER

  • Mustangs a biatch..nuff said.... he lost hahah pussy forced induction.

  • WoW 100hp less, detuned and the rx was catching up at the end?!!!?!?!?!?! Ford sucks!!!

  • The Cobra won. He CLEARLY let off.

  • @makattak88 COBRA IS A BITCH "CLEARLY" I will take great pride in killin any mustang but most important any "COBRA" especially the "TERMINATOR" HHAHAHAHHAHHAA only 11.7 time slips, holy fuck that is really slow guys ....step it up a notch cant ya?

  • @makattak88 Your on glue stupid ass.

  • @makattak88 not very impressive for the ford with over 100 HP on the RX7 and barely nudges ahead of it.

  • @Topfueltrooper haha yeah right, oh dont forget the cobra has about a ton over the rx 7. the rx7 with a larger motor swap vs a basic cobra. you can make over 500 on a cobra with a tune.

  • @makattak88 he let off because the rx7 started pulling him

  • @makattak88 it looked pretty god damn close to me. this is a shitty video to judge tho