Culloden - Re-enactment Video July 2007 www.ownthestone.org

[MrAmericaRules]

Vespasian can say what he wants but I believe that these men did not die in vain, and they only went with charlie to get the rights every human is given. S

[MrCagivaman]

Filmed on Lauder Moor in the Scottish Borders for The National Trust for Scotland. The whole film can be seen at The Culloden Battle Field Site.

Lauder is as desolate as Culloden was 270 years ago. There are no housing estates next to it !!!!!!!

[vespaUK125]

It was over in 30 minutes, an unnecessary war for one mans ambition that would been better laid to rest before it even started, destroyed many peoples lives in the Highlands and made it what it is today, an empty sparsely populated territory, it wasn't even Scots v English as some would like to portray it, its a Civil war between Scots and English supporting Hanoverian Protestants V Stuart Catholics , BPC only made one more visit incognito St Mary le Strand Church London to be a Protestant.

[jockhamish]

A very realistic portrayal of the battle and well done director......the ancestors of those men who died on that tragic day can be seen if you look into the Scottish bagpipe music sites from Oregon in the USA...thats where the Highlanders are now..... because there are not many left in Scotland........

[mouthforwar17]

@jockhamish all the scots left with any fight left in em ended up in america...im clan leslie and my clan fight on both sides of the 1745. i have a hunch that the ones that faught on the jacobite side and survived ended up in the US. my clan has both lands in lowlands and in highlands n i love my highland roots ALBA GU BRATH!

[notenglishandproud]

@stevom31 Don't worry mate, i have a soft spot for folk like liverpoolenglish .... a peat bog here in the Highlands.

[stevom31]

@notenglishandproud folk like him have bo argument they just like want to hold on to something that isnt theirs.. english imperialism.. no wonder the whole world hates england i would rather be dead than english..:D

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Ah, yet again the anti-English, racist bile raises it's ugly head again. The whole world hates us? Rather a rash generalisation, I wonder why we have the Commonwealth then if we are so despised? Idiot! lol Do us all a BIG favour, stop mincing about & have the balls to stand on your own two feet, as opposed to living out of the Englishmans purse. VOTE Salmon and foxtrot oscar! Don't make lame excuses about spoiled ballot papers either- save the horse manure for the roses! Endex.

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH i dont think many people here have a problem with the anti english sentiments here fellah. did u not notice the vido your on?do us all a favour and be gone and stay gone,, theres a good chap,,your prescence here is racist..

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 What an innane remark. How can my presence here possibly be 'racist?' How stupid are you? Perhaps you should go and research Culloden as I have done, go & read John Prebble's masterpiece, then try arguing that Culloden boiled down to England V Scotland! It had more to do with a virtual civil war between between the pro-Hanoverian Lowlanders, and the Jacobite Highlanders. Much is made os atrocities which occured post Culloden. Guess who was most savage to their own? The LOWLANDERS.

[notenglishandproud]

@stevom31 ha... aye, the sun never sets on countries englands walked. the guys a penis.

[stevom31]

@notenglishandproud walked? i would say generally fkt over. what country wasnt glad to see the back of tthem? english people are easily bought and sold on tyranny all in the name of a german royal family otherwise they wouldnt fight their wars and take their country back and do us all a favour..

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 And YOU do have an argument?! lol Let's here it then! You wrongly assume that I am opposed to Scottish independence. WRONG! I am fully behind it as an English Tax Payer. It's about time the Scots stood on their own two feet and stopped bitching about 'how badly done too they have been.' What a hoot! Without the Union, Scotland would be a backwater with an economy based largely on agriculture & tourism. How odd, another election, and another washout for the SNP.....I wonder WHY? £££££!!

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH a lttle upset are we?looks like my job is done here.. go and bleat to the english tell them yer stream of garbage.. scotland is stronger in spirit england is weak and easily corrupted thx to her people or should i say subjects..and its england who would be significantly worse off if scotland goes and you know it you dont pay for scotland dont make me laugh you imbecile at least scotlands OIL REVENUES wont have to be paid for by the english tax payer england our bitch

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Upset? Hardly Taffy! Scottish oil? I think not. I think you will find that the UK government & BP put the development money into North Sea oil, not Scotland. Scotland is stronger in spirit, England is weak....yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah! 'Spirit' will not finance an independent Scotland. Change the record son, your stylus is stuck on the same old tedious nationalist track called, 'The Whinging Ol' Jock He Has Nae A Pot To Pish In!'

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH incase you dont know the "last elections" were uk elections it would be futile to vote for snp you clearly know nothing of scottish politics.. our elections are may 2011 and weve got a choice ..lets see theres scottish labour who are led by a moron ian gray ..and the snp who has strong leadership and even the worst politician with the snp could wipe the floor with ian gray or any of his dogs.. snp are not perfect but its an imperfect world.. its not about pounds grow up

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH "English tax payer" "own two feet" and winge and winge. change the record you half germanic, towny prick. chill out Mary Poppins... have a warm beer, eat some scones or egg and chips. 

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Oh! such sparkling wit & originality! Germanic? Hardly, you know little of Liverpool, most have Irish, Scots or Welsh ancestory here. I assume your banal remark is actually aimed at the Royal family line? Obviously, you would have preferred to have been ruled by a half Italian, part French fop of a Stuart, namely the Bonnie Prince, or as one Jacobite clan chief shouted at him as he fled Culloden, "Away and run ye wee French poof!" Enjoy your deep fried Mars bar & pizza Taffy.

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH you need to calm down with your multiple posts dude, you just seem like a frantic, sweaty keyboard warrior to me. your quote is utterly incorrect by the way. it was along those lines, but like the leader of the Caledonian tribes in the first century, Calgacus, words were placed in his mouth by the enemy. deep fried mars bar and pizza? never tried it..sounds awful. deep fried englishman however....

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Evidently you are no student of history, or anything else for that matter. "You've laid the planet waste not just to Scotland (usual Celtic victim syndrome) but the irony is that England has NO CULTURE!" What a ridiculous, crass statement. For a country that 'laid waste to the planet,' how strange that we have a huge Commonwealth, membership of which is entirely VOLUNTARY. Clearly many nations would totally disagree with your point. Scots played no role in Empire building then? Idiot!

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH ok granted england has culture but noone wants to know it theres no international morris dancing association..many good writers yes but your govt is destroying what culture u have and soon it will be a mixed bag and will be lost in a soup of obscurity thx to immigration but u dont mind do u?scotlands culture will never be lost but we still seek to protect our identity thats the main reason for leaving the union we dont want a class system u do.scotland will flourish no probs

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 What nonsense. You can hardly sum up English culture by refering to Morris dancing alone. What about music, art, literature, sport, food, drink etc? I wasn't aware your culture was under any type of threat at all, it appears vibrant & well established, leaving the Union will have no effect other than dire economic consequences. Class system? lol All societies have a class system in one form or another, Scotland has had one for centuries, or did the English force Lairds on you?! lol

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Feel free oh great Scottish Oracle with your Degree in history, to wax lyrical about the odious feudal nature of the Clan system. Discuss how the poor buggers who died at Culloden had no choice but to muster to fight. They paid for their crofts & smallholdings not with money, but by agreeing to fight for the Clan chief whenever he dictated. Any who refused would see their home burnt down, their livestock seized & their family turned out on the moor. Very noble & romantic...

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH Very good sassenach, you know a bit of stuff. however can i suggest if you are ever in the Highlands that you do not mock the Clans that were present at Cuil Odhair. the surnames and descendants of those Clans are still very common and you dont know how deep the subject runs in folk even now. i've seen it go horribly wrong, even between themselves.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud You are extremely ignorant to assume that I somehow despise the Highland Scots, and those who fought at Culloden, simply because I am English. The whole affair was tragic and regretable, no British Army Regt has 'Culloden' as a battle honour on it's colours. One man's arrogance, ambition & self-interest, namly BPC, led the Highlanders to disaster. Any man with the courage to charge into massed musket fire, is a brave man, and certainly worthy of respect.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud The problem with the Jacobite period is that over the years, the TRUTH as been obscured by romantic nonsense in many instances. Look at Grant, who betrayed his loyal Clansmen by leading them into a trap at Fort Augustus. He told them a pardon awaited those who marched in, swore an oath of allegiance & laid down their arms. They marched straight into captivity. Grant meanwhile was pardoned by the Crown & rewarded with land. Treacherous duplicity-a common theme in Scots history

[life0rdeath]

Lets see England sustain itself without Scottish Oil or Soldiers. I don't think it can.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@life0rdeath It isn't Scottish oil. The oil lies in the North Sea & it was exploited as a result of huge cash investment by the government & BP-Scotland could never have afforded to make such a huge investment itself. In addition, the oil revenue pays for the army of dolites in Scotland! Soldiers? We have so few Scottish Regts these days, we could well do without. Recruitment was so POOR amongst Scottish Regts, that the last government was forced to amalgamate them due to lack of numbers.

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH you said feel free well thats the trouble with scotland right there we are not free to make important decisions decisions that affect every day life for scottish citizens we just want our country back before westminster grinds it into a pulp..ive no doubt you hate the idea of an independant nation ..can you tell me your reasons without giving me the scotland is stronger in the uk speech? and refrain from nostalgia about the war and vera lynn bollox?my guess is no u cant

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 You say you are not free to determine your own independence. Nonsense. What happened at the last general election? Did the Scots elect Alex Salmon with a mandate to push for independence? Of course not, because the average canny Scot appreciates the financial consequences of independence for tax payers ie huge hikes in personal tax. Far better to milk the despised English tax payer, and bitch out the 'odious' English! What hipocracy! No right to self-determination? MY ARSE!

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH haha typical you take it personal because what?scotland wants out regardless of the consequencies..its getting so bad up here because the fukin tories are in because the ENGLISH middle class voted them in we have no choice but to accept our fate ..u must be a right winger well im not and most of scotland despises right wing policies ..you say were milikng the english?.for what exactly?your just a bitter english idiot the sooner we ditch u lot the better vote snp 2011

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Spoken like a true Labour bigot! lol I see, so in the space of five months of Conservative/Lib dem rule, things are 'getting so bad in Scotland?' The English middle class? They would be the people who largely fund your country then? Unlike many Scots, who fester on benefits & contribute NOTHING, most of the residents in England work & pay taxes-which directly fund you porridge heads. Hence you enjoy FREE prescriptions, FREE university tuition, FREE care for the elderly.....lol

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH ok if your talkin about the 2007 scottish elections i think youl find that we scots did vote for the snp but the electorate commission made sure that tens of thousands of ballot papers were spoiled due to the layout of the ballot paper and next year there having the another go at messin with the vote in scotland ..scotland gets less cash per year than the uk is spending on the olympics i dont hear u complaining about them?what we do with our budget is our business

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Oh yes, I was forgetting how inherently corrupt our electoral system is! Of course you are right, no doubt that the electoral commission have picked up a few tips from third world nations IE spoiling ballot papers. lol Dream on........Absolute nonsense. Salmon & his party didn't generate anywhere near a sufficient level of support for independence. I find that fact particulary vexing as an English tax payer who is keen to wave Scotland off to full independence. VOTE SALMON!!

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH as usual your english ignorance and arrogance is here for all to see u see things from an english perspective how can u rubbish the fact about the ballot papers u dont even live here we dont need u on our side thx your attempt at patronising the issue is a joke oh and yes ..since when was new labour a left wing party?u keep yer precious england ..i hope yopur satisfied with your govt meanwhile scotland grows restless stick yer taxes up yer arse

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 English arrogance? That's a sweeping racist statement if ever there was one, and it highlights your own prejudice. I am arrogat merely because I refute your suggestion that there was a huge conspiracy to stop SNP from taking power?? Where is your evidence? Where are the outraged calls for investigation/enquiry from angry Scottish voters? Your are spoutng complete bollocks basically. SNP would be screaming from the roof tops if they thought they had been unfairly cheated out of office.

[stevom31]

@LIVERFOOLSCOTTISH if the face fits there was an inquiry led by the eloctoral commission and the scots voters were indeed outraged but as usual the bbc swept it aside as laughable conspiracy theory ..why am i even talkin to u about this your an english fool ..go watch yer adam ant vido LMAO adam fkin ant omg

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Ah! The usual moronic Scots paranoia about the BBC-the 'evil' propaganda tool of the English! What a load of garbage! Where is the outraged Salmon roaring from the roof top?? lol If corruption occurred on such a scale as to prevent a party from being elected into power, it would be on the front page of EVERY newspaper around the globe. I see, so the BBC has the power to prevent journalists from other news organisations from investigating & roadcasting such a story??! lol What a cock!

[stevom31]

@FOOL i suppose u think yje bbc is an unbiased broadcaster and is not used as a political tool for the govt..i dont care if u think thats paranoia..the bbc is anti independance for scotland every chance they get so dont tell me m8 i fkin know and so do plenty others..i refuse to pay the licence.. period, can i ask u who you voted this year?you havent said,,

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 First of all, who I voted for, if at all, is none of your business. Secondly, the BBC is a left wing organisation, and therefore highly unlikely to be influenced be a Conservative government. The concept that the BBC is somehow part of a conspiracy to keep Scotland in the Union is complete pish! I just wish that I could vote for Salmon & independance here in England. Many English people are heartily sick & tired of whinging Jocks banging on about how badly done too they are. Vote SNP!

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 As usual, you miss my point entirely. I am in no way bitter about the prospect of the dissolution of the Union. As an English tax payer, I object to a disproportionate amount of tax revenue being spent per capita in Scotland, compared to England & Wales. Ask yourslef why you have so many FREE services eg medical prescriptions, university (that place that 'snobs' attend to you!) & free care for the elderly? Who funds that? Guess who?! Why didn't Scots elect SNP in the last election? £££

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH awwww.... winge fuckin winge!

[notenglishandproud]

bobslay12 - wind yer neck in. as much as you might love the defeat, it is a memory held in sadness and loss to highland people. a way of life thousands of years old was destroyed by the barbaric aftermath. so please.. spare a thought dude.

[Phil1796]

i saw this at the visitor center it felt like i was there scary!

[pe4cefrog]

Rest in peace all the Scots who fought for freedom! True bravery! and we will never forget you. xx

[CenturyGamer]

They didnt fight for freedom, idiot. They fought to plant some other idiot on the throne, and it wouldnt make any difference to them whether they succeeded or not.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

What drivel. Pick up a history book & research what Culloden was all about. Freedom had NOTHING to do with it! Ironically, BPC believed in absolute monarchy IE King holds ALL power. The House Of Hanover was liberal by comparison. Freedom? My arse mate! That is just Hollywood BS. Bet you believe that 'Braveheart' is an accurate documentary! Read "Culloden,' by John Prebble, then see if you think BPC did the Highlanders any favours at all. He did nae!

[Fraser60]

BRAVO fatmaccam...well said! Somebody who obviously knows their history and reads about it, rather than believes the hollywood myths.

[stevom31]

recently i dreamt i was visiting culloden and i was looking at the marker for the fallen ..when i was looking at it i felt very sad and angry..even in my dream the sense of loss was overwhelming..i have never visited culloden and never will...

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

Perhaps you should visit a few of the WW1 & WW2 cemetries, where English, Scots & Welsh lie together as brothers. Then you will have a sense of perspective about Culloden and just how far we have come together.

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH scottish soldiers that fought bravely alongside uk troops against the hun i got no problem with but scotland is tired of being abused by england who make all foreign policy decisions on our behalf scotland doesnt get respect from england just watch the bbc and you will see..anyhow the uk fighting machine will soon be at an end scotland wants out u can do your own dirty work from now on ..the uk has lost the fkin plot my friend

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

Bring it mate! As an English taxpayer, I cannot wait for Scottish independance, we stand to save a huge amount of money. For years, the English & Welsh tax payers have paid a disproportionate amount of OUR tax revenue into funding Scotland. Please hurry up & leave the Union. VOTE ALEX SALMON! DOWN WITH THE UNION! Couldn't agree more! Let's see how you will bail out the Royal Bank Of Scotland next time we have a financial meltdown! Let's see 7-8 million Scots fund Scotland PLC!! lol

[stevom31]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH dont worry we are bringin it ..as for your misguided views on the uk economy taxes and so forth am just gonna say your talkin through yer archie scotland provides more per head in taxes and other incomes than any country in the uk so go and look it up stupid

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

Perhaps you should study the agreement re the distribution of UK Tax Payers money. Scotland receives more money per head of the population than England, Wales, or NI. Scotland gets an extremely good deal financially. Bring on independence asap, then we can eradicate whinging, anti-English sentiment altogether. As I said in an earlier post, who will bail out RBS next time the banking system goes into meltdown? Were it not for English Tax Payers money, Scotland would be in bankrupt like Iceland.

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH you are the wingeing prick here dude. you just keep living in the world your government tells you about Scotland. meanwhile in Scotland we shall be laughing down at you, literally. and yes, lets see engerland poke themselves in the eye without Scottish oil and soldiers!! ha!!

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Please explain about, 'the world your government tells you about Scotland.' What does the government tell me? Talk about laughing, tell me how Scotland intends to fund itself, that's always a cause of great amusement. Don't whinge about North Sea Oil, that was exploited as a result of huge sums of money being invested by the UK gov & BP, once again, Scotland could never have afforded to make such an investment alone. You will not afford ONE Inf battalion once independant. lol

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH i've noticed you around youtube and you are the biggest moaning, argumentative stubborn arse of a prick i think i've ever come across. im certain people will agree. think you should piss off sassenach. by the way before i go, if engerland could do without Scottish regiments, as you say, then why oh why do they keep being used for the most demanding of work?? ' lol '

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Thank you for your innane, ignorant, anti-English opinion ma wee porridge head. Need I suggest just where you can stick it? I see, so the British army holds the English based regts in reserve in 5 star hotels, whilst the poor wee Jocks get to do all the fighting? What a Richard Head you are. Perhaps you should go and take a look at the list of British KIA in Afganistan & Iraq-all sweaty socks are they?? lol Like taking deep fried Mars bars from a wee bairn this is.....lol

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH ho ho ho.... sweaty sock...and jock...and porridge head. i bet people wish they had thought to use those 'insults' before! throw whatever you want my way sassenach it aint hurtin! though porridge head...you have to admit, thats a bit rubbish, 'innit'? but you are infecting me with your overpowering arrogance in the way you force your opinion on folk, almost like a bully. Need i suggest just where you can stick it? ho ho ... Richard head.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Just revisit your banal, foul mouthed rant that you initially posted. Learn one thing half-wit, behaviour breeds behaviour. Like most anti-English Scots, you lack the brains to actually appreciate that in economic terms, the Union was the best thing to ever happen to Scotland. Scots made a fortune out the Empire, Scots rose to eminent positions in the military, the civil service & government. Scots receive more UK tax revenue per capita, then England or Wales. Stop whinging.

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH och, you'll never be wrong about anything will you? too stubborn. you sir..are a ponsy prick. its easy to see you are a fucking bigot mr 'hypocracy'! you are the one winging his TITS OFF! thats all youve done here sassenach. i agree with stevom31... youre a bitter wee bawbag. the rants are coming from you, get the impression your blood pressures high. why dont you saunter up to Scotland and get seen to for free! ho ho ... later scouse shithead

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Any chance of an intelligent argument, as opposed to a continual diatribe of banal insults? For somebody passionate about independence, you appear to have few, if any arguments to offer, other than anti-English bile. I think you confuse me completely, I am on YOUR side. I look forward to the day with great anticipation when we can wave Scotland off on her way to full independence. Then I will split my sides as your taxes rocket & economy implodes. Who bailed RBS out??! lol

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Incidentally, talking of blood pressure, I believe that's particular health problem north of the border. Highest rate of heart attacks in Europe, if not the developed world. Lowest consumption of fruit & vegetables in the UK. High levels of sugar & fat in the diet......Tut, tut Rab C, stop dodging those health salads and ditch those deep fried Mars bars & pizza's. lol Excuse my syntax typing error with 'hipocracy,' even an Englishman cannot be perfect ALL the time.....

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH and? would you like me to list what Scotland has done for not just england, but the rest of the world? or are you too afraid that such a 'pish poor' neighbouring country of the mighty engerland may make her look pretty pish poor herself? is there an issue with engerland having a rather un-noticable identity in comparison with her celtic neighbours that your blood pressure would hit new heights? im ready for you sassenach ... we up north always have been. 'lol' is for pussys

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Having lost the argument, you now veer completely off course & attempt to change the entire thrust of the discussion. Pray tell, when did I ever criticise anything associated with contributions Scots have made to either the Union, or the world? Correct me if I am wrong, but can you highlight any quote whereby I have belittled Scottish scientists, engineers etc?? Incidentally, there is no such geographic entity as 'Engerland,' is that okay with you Paddy??

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH who the fucks paddy dude? youre quite weird. i need not quote anything, you give off a stink that just reeks of dislike for Scotland. you've gone awfully submissive there sassenach, was i right in my last post? need i ask really, obviously i was. you know, and most probably bitterly, how many great things have come out of this country. and its what the world celebrates which makes shit like you envious. the english are they only c**** who run us down. but we keep grinning..

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud Perhaps you are a comedian, either that, or a complete half wit. You have the temerity & arrogance to accuse me of disliking Scotland, when you yourself openly abuse the entire English race, your duplicity is as staggering as your stupidity is evident! lol Your paranoia about the English ie " the English are the only c***ts who run us down," is typical of somebody with limited knowledge of historical facts and a vacant head. Please elaborate HOW we 'run you down.' BOLLOCKS!

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH - Degree in Scottish History and Highland Land Use - pleased to meet you. if there is anyone who can tell you the facts it's me so wind yer wee brass neck in sassenach. owned you there didnt i? 'lol' ... yes, i am very much open to abusing the likes of you, not ashamed. by the way old matey, something to add to your vast and flawless knowledge, it is in fact known that english regiments present AT Cuil Odhair were heavily involved in the disgusting aftermath that took place.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@notenglishandproud A degree in Scottish history hey? You do not appear to have attended many lectures, because your 'argument' for what it is worth, is based predominantly on anti-English rants, which appear based on pure ignorance. It is a historical FACT as outlined in Prebble's book, that the Lowland Scots were by far the most savage to the Highlanders post Culloden. They afterall had an axe to grind, the Highlanders were the bane of their lives, stealing cattle, sheep, and causing havoc.

[notenglishandproud]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH look at my user name ...you state the obvious man! Agreed about the Lowlanders its not news to me though. they were behaving quite horrificly towards what they described as 'sub-human' Highlanders. you sound a little more reasonable now, though i cringe when i say that....

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Please do feel free to evidence your (ridiculous) claim that Scotland provides more tax per head then anybody else in the UK. You are completely WRONG. Scotland receives more tax revenue per head, then in England or Wales. The fact is, the city of London generates more revenue and provides more funding than any other part of the country. Funny how quiet Alec Salmon has gone since th financial melt down. Fact is, Scotland CANNOT pay it's own way.

[stevom31]

@LIVERFOOLSCOTTISH london generates more ?yes you got that right.. more debt than the uk can handle what are we about a trillion quid in the red?oh scotland will miss that i dont think.lol u english are so blind its not just scotland thats getting it in the neck agreed but england never does anything to change it if you did then we would be a real union again labour tory labour tory theyre both the same english are stupid your lost in a vicous cycle, we have a choice in scotland and its snp

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Clearly you know little about the UK economy to issue such a statement. Go & research how much financial services contribute to the UK economy, and how reliant we are on them. The City Of London practically finances the UK. The national debt has more to do with the folly of the Labour government who grossly overspent & borrowed vast amounts.Why didn't Scots vote SNP into power in this years election??! Scots nationalists are a joke, all huff, puff & bluff. Save the shit for the roses!

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@stevom31 Indeed, I agree, I think it's about time Scotland had full independence. As an English Tax Payer, I am 100% in support of Scotland self-financing itself, as opposed to living out of the English purse. I would not mind funding Scotland, were it not for the vile, anti-English attitude of so many people north of the border. Hopefully the goverment will cancel the two aircraft carriers-on which many thousands of Scottish jobs depend-that would be a start, then close the Faslane sub base.

[SWEsuger]

what is the name of the song??

[glasfurd31]

Is that part of the film from the new visitors centre? The new centre is amazing, really well thought out.

I went to Culloden in the 70s ... one of the saddest & creepiest places on earth. Most Scots I know refuse to go there.

All Hail The Jacobites.

[TheRedReiver]

Dropped in to the new visitor centre a few weeks ago. If I am completely honest I wasn't overly impressed but then I've never been one for all of these visitor attractions. Standing on the battlefield itself is a totally different experience however. There are few places that are as unsettling. If you get a quiet day I swear it feels as though you are absorbing the tragedy from the very ground itself.

[bobslay12]

culloden is a good place aint it :)

and a good defeat :)

[vandy87peeko]

fearless

[mertonparka]

The failed march the night before the battle to take cumberlands troops by surprise must be one of the biggest blunders in military history! That, along with the choice of battlefield, the non existence of any order and chain of command on the battlefield. Im surprised it even lasted half an hour!

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

Agreed. Culloden was an unmitigated disaster, as was Bonny Prince Charlie. BPC was selfish & vainglorious, he was militarily inept. He overruled Lord George Murray, one of the finest soldiers of his time. He chose ground that could not have been more unsuitable to the Highlanders tactics, yet ideal for the English! He allowed his troops to stand whilst they were bombarded with shot for 45 mins prior to the charge. 800 died just standing awaiting orders-disgraceful. BPC-What a buffoon!

[witchhunter32]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH sorry to say this mate but what a load of shite the loss at culloden is the clan mcdonalds blame they refused to charge meaning 700 odd less men to fight and ill remind u that lord george murray as intellegent as he was beleived the jacobites should have ran from prestonpans back into edinburgh rather than fight does that sound smart to u ?

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

You are entitled to your opinion. I don't think the Jacobites lost the battle for the want of 700 men, they would have been defeated either way. Cumberland barely had to use his reserve lines during the engagement, save for his left flank where the clans met the Government line. They got hammered. As brave as the Highlanders were, and as formidable in close combat as they were, ultimately, they would never have prevailed in the long run over the professional Government troops.

[witchhunter32]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH tbh the 700 would have made a massive difference jacobite skirmishers harrased their reserves right flank keeping them occupied and so could not participate in the main battle meaning the clash would have broke government troops and knowing theur leadaer ship would have ran like hell

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

Meanwhile, back in reality on the extremely boggy moor, facing artillery canister shot and musket volly fire...... Of course you are right Gen. Witch-Hunter! 700 bods would have 'guaranteed' victory-NOT. Never mind the overwhelming cavalry assets that Cumberland had at his disposal & the fact that the Highlanders were hungry, wet & very tired. It is merely your opinion & you will never be able to support it with evidence. Agree to differ & leave it at that. It's reality that counts-nothing more.

[witchhunter32]

and thats just ur opinion even though they were hungry government troopers aving food would mean a greater need for victory and when desperate people can sometime do amazing things plus the jacobites had cavalry aswell not tht they get much mention and ill leave it at that

[Fraser60]

Good question mfsm67!...and don't worry about your English, it's fine...No UK regt. has "Culloden" as a "Battle Honour"...To the British Govt. it was a Rebellion to be crushed and destroyed, not a war.

[JAKWIK]

they widna dare mfsm67

[SWEsuger]

whats the name of the song??

[mfsm67]

Does any british regiment have "Culloden" in its battle honours ?? Sorry my english.

[Fraser60]

Remember the Highlanders,being "British" subjects,were regarded as little more than Rebels/Traitors,so were not given the "civilities" of war.The Regular French/Irish regiments on the Jacobite side were.The Hanovarian deserters/soldiers on the Jacobite side were,in most cases,summarly executed too.I'm sure some of the Highlanders/Scot's serving within the Hanovarian ranks had a few"old scores"to settle too.Like most history involving Scottish Kings&Queens it became a tragic and bloody affair!

[SWEsuger]

i didnt even know the scots fought english in the "muscet"-era:P:P Thought it was rather quiet after wallace's war... though i just seen Braveheart and read some stuff^^

[fatmaccam]

sadly, british history up to culloden was anything but quiet. the 1745 rebellion was the last in a long line of dynastic struggles for the british throne. not to mention the occasional civil war.

read more "stuff", and forget "braveheart" - the true story of wallace´s war against the english is way more interesting (and moving!) than the mythologies of mel gibson.

[mertonparka]

Why did the idiots turn back from Derby? This battle would never have happened and victory would have been secured! London was very poorly defended when they retreated back to Scotland

[veriasvincit]

thats one of those what ifs that can be argued both ways

[fatmaccam]

they simply didn´t have the information we take for granted today: reports were mixed. and would the french send help? who knew for sure?

and marching into a city is one thing - holding it another, especially with an army of what were, in essence, feudal farmers and herders (regardless of their battlefield prowess) - not professional soldiers.

[cullodenmermaid]

Read OUTLANDER by Diana Gabaldon to get a good, informative and entertaining sense of what happened.

[notenglishandproud]

you should see the film at the actual visitor centre. thats the haunting part.

R I P

[mcdeaddog]

Very haunting! Captures the futility of such a stupid chosen site for the brave Highlanders to charge!

[nacho1560]

This clip seems to take away any guilt from English soldiers. We all know there were Highlanders on both sides, brother against brother, but to show hardly a Redcoat soldier gives a completely wrong picture.

The history I've read suggests the Scots who took part on the English side were NOT so callous in their treatment of the wounded and dying after the battle.

Rather it was the English soldiers, who I believe recruited a batallion of actual butchers, who committed the attrocities.

[eanraigros]

No England VS Scotland thing, mind you. I suggest you have a look at the other Battle of Culloden trailer. This one is made from what was recorded during the first filming for the NTS in March 2007 and due to weather condition the filming with redcoats was postponed about a month. So they did make a finished film and it shows a lot of brutal hand to hand between the Jacobites and the British Army.

[bluerider451]

A battalion of butchers? You mean they didn't recruit English soldiers who where Thespian Drama queens to fight a war.....how unsporting of the cads.

[nacho1560]

Blue, you know what I meant. There can never be any excuse for massacring the wounded after any battle.

Not all Highlanders took part in the battle yet all were butchered in an orgy of sadistic violence that has never before or since been repeated in such large numbers by any British army.

[witchhunter32]

sick redcoat bastards

[vandy87peeko]

they pile up the injured and shot a cannon into them. civalised? my great great great grandfather. MACKAYS.

[mcdeaddog]

Is that right? how did you find this out?

[vandy87peeko]

they got so tired of killing them one by one they actually played games with them, though many redcoats mainly lowland scots refused to take part in the murder. one story was they used to take men from the same family (father and son) face to face and shot them. sick i know. agreed with your newest comment.

[eanraigros]

You do know the MacKays were staunch supporters of the government and the Georges?

[velapulsar]

I doubt the MacKays had much of a choice, with the Sutherlands breathing down their necks.

[scotlandforever321]

This video very much saddens me as my family back in the auld country were Jacobites and were slaughtered and driven from their hames.

[CHUNKYJACOBITE]

i had the priviledge to take part in this film, it is on show at culloden visitor centre, displayed on four walls, there is no red coats in this clip but there are at the centre. the director tried to acheive a similiar result to that of peter watkins film from the seventies.. exellant , it was worth freezing my b$£ls for..

[saoralba13141320]

That last comment was for Columnsx and his comment about the Union. Also, where are the Hanoverians in this video? It appears at some point to be a war between two sets of Highlanders. Who exactly is shooting at the Highlanders? Lets see the British state in all its glory. Murdering bastards, guilty of ethnic genocide.

[columnsx]

the redcoats did most of the shooting, the other lowland clans just watched and when it was certain victory they attacked, the redcoats took most of the jacobite attack only whne victory was insight did the allied clans attack

[mcglumpher]

well let me say to you my dear freind....it was recorded that a mass amount of the genocide was infact commited be fellow scots, some of which were ex-jacobite....and dont reply callin me a british bastard as you put it...my clann fought for the jacobites in all the wars

[bsa650royalstar]

Culloden was not a struggle between Scots and English. Nor was it a struggle between Highlanders and non-Highlanders. Religious and political beliefs dictated diverse loyalties. Culloden was a battle in a civil war

[Weinglasarien]

Finally someone gets it right! If you look at the actual muster rolls of the time, people who were living just one village apart, neither Highlanders nor English, would often fight on the opposite sides. (See Loudoun and Kilmarnock.)

[goatwacker]

Spot on! I think some of these hotheads who are quick to slander each other should actually research and know their own history before they shoot their mouths off.

[veriasvincit]

at last some educated people. im glad someone is willing to say it how it was. you sir have my respect.

[25ghr]

well done i had ancestors on both sides at culloden iam a scot but live in England . iam also a historian and reenactor time to move on long live the union

[columnsx]

with a tow row for the british grenadier!

[bullboy13]

hey what was the music used for this?

[breakingbisley]

sos that was to the comment R I P fuck the union jack forever

[spr65]

down with the union!

[columnsx]

the union unifies, it created the best nation in the world and it will go on to signify that

[saoralba13141320]

So let's just sweep all the atrocities under the carpet shall we?

[columnsx]

britian has to be proud of its past

[Mickeytl]

Very well done!

[Salvus967]

They could have used William Wallace's help eh? lol

[LordCerneAbbas]

Why isn't it in colour? I want to see the blood in colour. Just think, if Cumberland had done a better job, we wouldn't have had Brown, Blair, Reid, et al, inflicted upon us.

[pc0sence]

I believe these are Lowlanders.

[baadknight]

Awesome video - reminds me a little of the 1964 film of the same name. I was actually involved in this new recreation, it was so cold and windy during the shooting - but was an amazing experience. Can't wait to see the finished result.

[Dirlewanger]

i know the 1964 film you mean, is it available on dvd?? this vids brill btw well dun!

[notenglishandproud]

R I P

Fuck the union jack forever.

[britishpatriot01]

tit

[breakingbisley]

what the fuck you saying scotland is part of the union jack

[kweilo79]

it was a freezing time on that hill but a fun experience- except the "accomendation"

[elcasiegno]

it was bloody cold

[dodsd]

it was good fun but feckin cold who's with me

[keg64]

Alwasys rememer the dead always freedom

[keg64]

charlie was a rat he fuck off and let the scots to die

[emperorgaius]

Yeah, in there somewhere freezing myself silly for the cause!

[hochmahol1]

I am in there amongst the Jacobites. Excellent.

[666bakura]

Cool, at 2:29 I'm just about to fire the gun.