Stop right there. The Catholic Church does NOT consider the Eastern Orthodox to be heretical, merely schismatic. All sacraments by the Orthodox are valid in the Catholic Church. There are innumerable Church documents to prove this. Orientale Lumen is a good start.
Rom 1:16 If the gospel of Jesus Christ is the power of God unto salvation to all those that believeth.... that is what we need . The true gospel of Jesus Christ
The truth will set you free! People don't want the truth because they will have to repent and change their lives but it is worth it. God is a God of order and so people are deceived into thinking that you can join any religion and save your soul. That's a lie from the devil. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ, God made man, and all others were founded by men who had no authority to start a church or religion such as Henry VIII, Luther, etc.
@fatima01917 What about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Many members are experiencing the revelations of God... and in the Bible you read that where there is no vision the people perish.
So do 54 people dislike the truth? I didn't know that such a thing was possible. I was under the impression that as intellectual humans we are inherently inclined to seek the truth.
I don't have a church; Jesus does. And the one Jesus founded is defined by wherever his Spirit dwells not by a heirarchy or by doctrines. The Catholic church is an invention of wayward earthly men started by men like Athanasius of Alexandria and Emperor Theodosius.
Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God, God in the Flesh started MY Church. "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
I grew up a Catholic, in a Catholic home, Catholic school, Catholic traditions, 21 years as a Catholic.....then I found Jesus after I left the Catholics.
No Popes, No praying to Statues, No Confessing to a Priest...Just Jesus.
I never heard the "Gospel" (the truth about Salvation by Grace) until I got away from the Traditions.
For 21 years I believed that I was going to Hell if I ate meat on Friday or missed Mass on Sunday.
No hope, no grace, no salvation...that was MY Catholic experience.
@hammerogod Just have to say its unfortunate you didnt understand the church or the scriptures when you were a part of it. I dont see being a lone ranger Christian as the message of scripture since the church is the undivided Body of Christ. If you choose to go it alone, you've separated yourself from the bretheren & the very Bride of Christ. It really isnt the Church's fault if you were not aware of Salvation by Grace - thats THE message of the church. Dont blame Her if you chose not to listen.
@catchzz Oh, I understood it just fine. I had my Catechism memorized m'man. From Kindergarten thru High School I LIVED it. In the Service I LIVED it. My entire family LIVED it. ~Mass 6 days a week. ~Assumption Catholic Grade School and Church. ~St. Gregory's Catholic High School. (Catholic boy's boarding school). ~Catholic Youth Seminary for 3 years. ~I was an Altar Boy ~EVERY man in my family group was a lay leader and/or deacon. Compared to me you have no idea what being a Catholic is.
@hammerogod Oh so youre some genius about the Catholic church which clearly extends to your ability to know me. I see how it is. Thats great you lived out the faith of the church when you did but I guess eventually some people choose to leave. There are bad apples everywhere. You clearly are some spiritual Christian that knows my faith & how I live it out. Dont slander me, theres NO message in scripture whatsoever telling us to be lone ranger believers. Take the offending brother to the church.
@hammerogod Sure your an idiot. As I stated, I have read the bible & thats why I know bigots like you are not a part of the true church. Not the church that Jesus instructs me to send people like you - Matthew 18:15.
The difference btw me & you is that I know you are a Catholic hater. You dont know me or how I live my faith at all. It is pointless for you to tell me how I am when you have no idea.
@hammerogod I hope you take a step back for once & realize how stupid you sound when you keep putting words in my mouth:
"Is that what you believe?
Now I pity you."
Again, you dont know me & of course thats NOT what I believe. However your assumption that everyone is a part of the true church is just plain wrong. It is illogical that EVERYONE can be correct. There is a clear, true, & visible church, & I can go to Matt 18:15-18 to know Christ is having His believers find truth in one place.
@catchzz "I know you are a Catholic hater" No, you don't I don't hate the Catholics. Never did. I believe that much of Catholic Doctrine was invented by men. So it's the Doctrine that I resent, not the people. You are failing to remember that I was the Catholic of Catholics for 21 years. I would have died for the R.C. The Pope was like God to me. Then I found Jesus outside of man-made Rites, Rituals, Dogmas, Creeds, etc. I found Jesus on the only terms He accepts, One On One, Me and Him.
@hammerogod OK so then youre not a Catholic hater, but you DO lack understanding of the Catholic church. If you really understood it like you claim to, you wouldnt make the elementary blunder that Catholics dont know their bibles. You would have clearly known the Catholic mass is FULL of scripture & is read in its entirety in the course of a few yrs. OT reading, NT reading, Gosple, Pslams, etc @ every Mass, the greatest prayer on earth. Dont tell me u know Catholics or they dont know scripture.
Yes, the Priest reads from the Bible, out loud, to the entire congregation, at every mass. (well, sometimes not at the early 6:30 am red eye mass that us poor working schmucks attended often).
But do you open your Bible at home?
Truth moment, do you?
A brief, yes or no, question.
I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
I was baptized, I repented (and still do frequently when I fail), I confess my sins to God regularly, frequently and with remorse.
@hammerogod Have I opened the bible.. of course & thats why I am Catholic. The scriptures point to the one, holy, catholic, & apostolic church. Theres no other 'church' on earth that can make that claim. I have many protestant friends & family members, I know their faith & they are good Christian people. I have many friends who are devout Catholics, some deacons & they are good Christian people. When the scriptures paint the picture of Christs church, its clear that its true & visible.
@catchzz Imagine holding on to a church your whole life only to find out that it was of man... it was corrupt and dead. You were living a lie your whole life.... these things are truly not funny. Heavenly Father will not be mocked... why is it that we are so prideful
@knowledge999999999 It is unfortunate that many hold on to a false "church". I pray that those following a false church will one day realize that Christ only established one true and visible church, the Roman Catholic church.
@catchzz You are neglecting the fact that the entire church from the beginning was one church, founded by Christ, until Rome separated from the Eastern Orthodox in 1054 AD.
@catchzz You are ignorant of church history. It was Cardinal Humbert and the Latin delegates who entered Hagia Sohia, disrupting the Liturgy and placing the bull of excommunication on the alter in 1054. Five days later the Patriarch of Constantinople excommunicated the pope.
@vasilyjc1955 Im not ignorant of church history at all. By the way, the pope has the authority to excommunicate not the patriarch. Anyway, I see no point in arguing this with you, when there is no much anticathoic bias in the protestant world. At least our churches are in line, but that doesnt deny that the pope is the head of the church on earth.
@hammerogod So being aware the Priests reads out loud the scriptures is living proof that if you attend Mass you are hearing the scriptures. You seem to forget that for the majority of Christian history thats how it HAD to be. I hope you realize the printing press has not existed for majority of the time Christ established His new covenant. I dont think you think too far outside of the box. Not only have bibles not been readily available throughout history, but many Christians were illiterate.
@hammerogod Which in turn means that a person is by no means less of a Christian if they've never physically read the scriptures themselves. If you attend Mass, you are hearing & learning about Gods Word. The Catholic church of course does encourage reading the scriptures, but Christ never condemned anyone for being illiterate.
Are you a brother in Christ.. yes, I never stated otherwise. BUT you are not a member of the ONE true church receiving the fullness of truth in the deposit of faith.
@hammerogod Great! One mediator, I know that. Thats why our Christian brothers & sisters can pray for us since they are ALIVE in Christ. Guess what, they are more alive than you & I. Do you not recall Pauls teachings of intercessory prayer?
Since the communion of saints are in union with the Body of Christ, I can have them take my prayers to the Christ Jesus to be the metiator to God the Father.
Dont pretend to know me dude, you dont exhibit the quality of ESP.
@catchzz Why would anyone take their Prayers to anyone besides Jesus. I don't get it, I will never get it. Jesus is good enough for me. What He did is good enough for me. I respect the Apostles and I understand the suffering they and Mary went through when Jesus suffered and Died. But they are/were Humans. I will Pray ONLY to Jesus. John 14:14 "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it" If that is not good enough for you then ask God for something better. Good Luck.
@hammerogod I know you clearly dont get it. You must clearly not get that Christians are together in ONE Body of Christ where death doesnt separate bretheren. I can ask those who've gone before me to pray to God just as I can ask my neighbor/friend. Its what Paul taught to do, its whats stated in James 5:16. Doesnt get much more powerful when those in the Kingdom who have attained total righteousness are continuing their prayers for us, here. Mary & the saints are alive in Christ.
@hammerogod yes there is one mediator between god and man and that is Jesus and Jesus gave the power the blessed Mary and the saints to intercede between him(christ, god, the lord) and man through the power of prayer because they are fully alive and closest to him.
@lovencare62 "yes there is one mediator between god and man" Then you add Mary and the Saints. Do you see what you did? You made that simple Biblical passage into a joke. Adding anything or anyone to Jesus is the same as saying that Jesus isn't good enough. Does Jesus need help? Who hung on the Cross with Him? Who was tied to a post and Whipped with Him? Who Died with Him? Who was Buried with Him? NOBODY He Did It Alone. The Apostles wouldn't even stay awake and pray with Him in the Garden
@catchzz Read "Papal Sin: Structures of Deceit" by Garry Wills And then get back to me smart boy. We can compare notes. And while you are about it study the Catholic Doctrine about Mary (Jesus' mother). I mean the deep Doctrine dude. Is Mary the "Co-redemptrix" of the World? "Mary was spiritually crucified with her crucified son at Calvary" - "her role as Co-redemptrix did not cease with the glorification of her Son." ~ Pope John Paul II ~ Now find that in Scripture. You won't. Period.
@hammerogod Oh please you fool, I am utterly amazed you think you know me so well. Ive read up on the theological concepts. I know how to sort through the hogwash. I know Popes throughout time havent been holy, I know humans that make up the church have been corrupt, but that doesnt change the truth of the deposit of faith. I know the Marian doctrines of which you clearly feel for the extreme taking things out of context. Maybe you should get to know the real church & not the charicature, Dude.
The Catholic Church is NOT founded by Jesus Christ at all!!! He never said for peter to become the Pope ! You waste all this Time to present some good Points only to ruin it with your ridiculous conclusion that the Whore of Babylon is the Church of Christ! Christ hated Organized Religion and he certainly would never have created a Monstrosity of Torture Murder Rape Violence and Deceit as the Catholic Babylonian Pagan Roman Church is!!
Delusional, you are. Along with 2,000 years of Christian history, along with Saints, there are sinners. Idiots like you always focus on the sinners. Look in the mirror, you blooming idiot. Wake up, and smell the coffee. May God lead you into the One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church that Christ began & which He handed the Keys to Peter. You obviously forget the Keys to the Kingdom-typical for a protestant. And where in Scripture did Jesus command anyone to build his own church?
@BigBingFan First of all I am NOT a blooming idiot!! I have no idea where Jesus commanded anyone to build his Church! Thought i tried to point out to you that he DIDNT! Don't try to reconvert me...been Catholic...got out many years ago and would never ever join the Roman Pagan Club ever again!
@BluesHarp60 Actually anyone that refers to the Catholic church as the Roman Pagan Club is most certainaly a blooming idiot. Just because you didnt understand the Catholic church when you were in it doesnt give you the right to be a bigot about it. Jesus Christ established a church and that is fact of history. He called everyone to belong to the body of Christ and NOT walk alone in the dark. We are united as Christians in ONE flock where there is ONE shepherd, and ONE truth. Amen
@BluesHarp60 Jesus said (Matt.16:18)"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it". Peter means rock. Peter was the bishop of Rome. Peter was the leader of the Apostles after Jesus. He was the first pope and Jesus did tell him that.
The Holy Catholic Church has had corrupt leaders but we pull ourselves up and acknowledged that in some areas we have a dark past only because of men. Today the Church stands strong Though we are persecuted for our faith. Our faith is the oldest Christian faith why Cant all Christians be Catholic? If not then at least acknowledge that we are CHRISTIAN !!!!!!!!!!!!
From what I've read, people keep bringing up the fact that the Pope is infallible period. Of course he is human and he can make mistakes. The infallibility comes in where he can not change Scripture nor can he do harm to "The Bride of Christ" through the Holy Spirit. The differences in the Catholic Church and the other Churches is that the Catholic Church is the only one that can literally change the the Eucharist and Wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. I like that.
@dirtboy7777 You mean James 2:17? There he says that if you have faith you have to demonstrate it in your life. But you're still save through grace by faith.
I remember when I used to be catholic, and I was so afraid and scared that all my works wouldn't be enough to get me saved. lol I was right. My works would never be enough to save me. Thanks God that he saved me through his infinite grace, and today, I do good works NOT TO BE saved, but BECAUSE I was saved and I'm grateful.
@jgallete 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone., That was James 2 17, If your referring to This has having just faith and your good to go, that is not scriptural. Even is you have faith, If you have not WORKS, It is dead, Being Alone. Sorry I met Jam 2:24 - a man is justified by works and not by faith alone, this will back James 2 177 up also.Jam 2:26 - faith without works is dead. You need Both . Good works threw faith is God wil
@dirtboy7777 - Demons did not believe in God, they knew God was powerful, so did Satan. But they tried to be better than God and take his place. Now, most of these verses are out of context. What I will do is explain them to you. Im not just gonna throw other verses back at you, to justify what Paul taught in the Bible.
I think this is so arrogant that you would think that you works could be put beside the death of Jesus in order to save you. That is why I hate religion. Salvation is a gift!
@jgallete So what your saying is the demon did not know God exist.. Can you explain what these verses mean that I sent you, even if they are out of context? Just explain what James met in 2 14 24...Jam 2:14-24 - a man is justified by works & not faith alone. Going by your point of view this must mean something totally different than what it says or you dont consider this be accurate of the bible or the rest of the verses I sent you. so I would love to see what you think James 2 14 24 means!
@dirtboy7777 - Even if our works could help us get saved. WE WOULD NEVER BE SAVED!
Because we are sinners. We sin before God every single day. Here is what the Bible says:
(You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. Gal. 5:4)
And about our works:All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
@jgallete . Paul is really not talking about how to get saved here or about the possibility of losing salvation, but about what legalism does to one’s ability to grow, mature, and experience the power of God in his or her life. When one trusts in some form of legalism (as in circumcision or whatever) for righteousness before God whether for salvation or for sanctification, they have fallen out of the grace way of life by faith in the finished work and provision of Christ couldn't fit it all
@jgallete Isaiah 64:6 one should read not only that verse but the entire Isaiah 64 to see the context, as well as other part of the Bible. In fact Isaiah 64:5 says: Thou [God] meetest him that joyfully works righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways. God blesses the righteous (Psalms 5:12), He loves righteous deeds (Psalms 11:7) and does reward us for being righteous (Psalms 18:20, Proverbs 11:18). Romans 3:10 say no one is righteous but at the same time Scripture, couldn't fit it
Respond to this video... Still waiting for you to explain James 2 14 24 to me Jam 2:14-24 - a man is justified by works & not faith alone. In case you forgot
@dirtboy7777 - Since God's word is inspired, there are no contradictions. Paul said in Romans 4 that salvation comes through grace, not from woks, just so no one can brag about it. James 2:14 is talking about the justification of a christian, not earning salvation. He is teaching about how grace must be active, even after you are saved and are under the grace of God. Romans 4 and James 2 are written about justification but from different perspectives... The bible does not contradict itself.
@jgallete I say James is talking about Justification,, but he means works threw faith. Is this to hard for you to embrace? What about Rom 2:2-8 - eternal life by perseverance in good works, What does this mean? Its not a different perspective than that would make 2 totally different theory's and that don't make no sense. Your problem is you read and use 1 signal verse, which you can't do in the bible. (4 Now to one who works, his wages are not reckoned as a gift but as his due)
Respond to this video... Also what is really wrong about doing good works threw Faith? Jesus did all kinds of works, do you think he wants everyone to just sit there in a stare and not do nothing. In the bible. Whats Pete Talking about here? 1Pet 1:17 - God judges impartially according to one's works You really have to read into what Paul is saying to get the full understanding. I don't have time to put the whole thing on here research the all of Romans..
@dirtboy7777 - There is nothing wrong with doing good works through faith. That is good and is what God wants us to do. This is a part of holiness that God wants all christian to live in. I am pro-good works, yayyyyy!! Praise God! lol
I just thinks good works have nothing to do with your salvation. But it is a result from your salvation.
I think that if you deserve heaven by your works at least a lil bit, it is like saying that ur works are compared to the death of Jesus for your sins.
@jgallete I'm glad that you reconize that is what God wants us to do, but you did just contradict yourself by saying that it (is what God wants us to do) and your right in saying that. Its not that Catholics rely only on good works, but faith also. See we believe in part the same way you do in having faith just as much as anyone, we just also apply faith in our works if you can understand that.
@dirtboy7777 - How did I contradict myself? I will take my life as an example to tell you what the bible tells us. I was saved by God through grace by faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Salvation is something I will never deserve. Part 1.
Now I am saved and start to live the best way I can according to what the gospel teaches. That is, God wants me to be holy as He is. I will never be as holy as Him, but I need to try. Even when I do good works, I do it all through Christ. Part 2
@jgallete well, your here saying you don't do good works to be saved, This was said in an earlier post. Then you just said in the post you put before this.- (There is nothing wrong with doing good works through faith. That is good and is what God wants us to do.) well if your saying that is what God wants us to do, how come your not doing it? And then Luther didn't agree with The book of James, matter of fact he said throw Jimmy into the stove, (nice) You are the in disagreement with Luther.
@dirtboy7777 - If we go back to traditions, and go back in history, there's no denial that the RCC goes way back before the protestant church.
But if we go back to the pure biblical churches, a lot of the RCC doctrines are not in the Bible. I was a catholic myself, so was my mom and here's the problem (not to me, to the RCC). I did start learning with an OPEN mind. That's why I left. Actually I never joined the RCC officially.
@jgallete Here where Traditions come in to Catholics. See It took almost 400 yrs (33Ad-397AD) for the books to circulate to forum the bible that was in 397 Ad, hand copied and compiled by the Bishops of the Catholic Church! If you are a bible only Christian and were living before this, just say 2nd century You would not known anything. Jesus Gave his people a Church first, Jesus didn't even mention the bible in the bible. Bible 2 Thess 2:15 - hold fast to traditions, whether oral or by letter
@dirtboy7777@dirtboy7777 And my point about tradition is: Tradition is good. It helps us keep what our ancestors left us. But, when the people who keep these traditions start making their own rules, doctrines, giving superpowers to men and etc... Then we got a problem. If the most popular church on earth start saying something that's not on the bible, then I have to believe in her holy authority, right? NOPE. I'd rather stick with the Bible.
@jgallete The word Trinity, Incarnation or even the word bible are not in the Bible. So I guess you don't believe in these things. Every Christian I know Catholic or not believes in this. This is why I told you know the words implicit..even the in the implies scripture is not enough, Jn 21:25 - not everything Jesus said recorded in Scripture,Acts 20;35 - Paul records a saying of Jesus not found in gospels 2Tim2:2 - what you heard entrust to faithful men Rom 10:17 - faith come from what is heard
Respond to this video... so you would rather take the word of Luther who came 1500 year after, Who was Catholic himself to they threw him out of the Church. He didn't walk out on his own, he wanted HIS own set of rules and the book of James thrown out. Why because even he new the Catholic Church was Given the ability to bind and loose, see Mathews. and your pastors were Ordained by who? I got a task for you. Can you trace who Ordained your Pastor all the way back to the time of Christ?
@dirtboy7777 - Here's what the Apostle Paul said about people who preach things that are not in the gospels: "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:8
So, I don't care how traditional the RCC is. I cannot accept her authority. I'm sorry, but Mary was not a virgin her whole life. Peter was married. Popes are not infallible, if they were, why would some of them be sexually active?
@jgallete Paul saying just to preach the Gospel of Jesus and I agree. But there all not in the Bible as Paul recorded in Acts 20-35 as I already sent you. And If you don't honor the Catholic Church that's up to you, Lk 10:16 - whoever hears you, hears me; rejects you, rejects me., See Some of these writings I told you to read, were from guys appointed by some of the Apostles themselves, They believed in them, Why don't you? Are you saying Peter, John etc, made the wrong choice?
Respond to this video... I agree the were some Popes that did not lead the right life for themselves, The are people just like you and me, But threw the years they did and could only speak infallible when addressing the Church. The Gates of Hades will never Prevail against it right? Just like there are not perfect Protestant Pastors out there, but no one said Protestantism shouldn't exists because its Pastors did wrong. ThePope canspeak infallible outside of the Church just like you a me
Respond to this video... I don't now if Mary had sex after Jesus or not, but she was a Virgin before..Thats a whole other subject..lol! The bible said we have to follow tradition also if your want to go by the bible right. The bible was giving to us by the Catholic Church (FACT)! I guess you don't believe in the Apostles Creed either? Odds are you switched because the Catholic Religions rules were a little tuff and you found something easier, You found someone to point out why not to be...
@dirtboy7777 - I'm from a protestant church that is as far as I know, very traditional. We even pledge to dress with decency at all times, just so there's a difference between us and whoever wants to live as they wish.
So, why would I be seeking something easier? lol
I agree that Mary was a virgin before Jesus. That she was sinless her whole life and assumed to heaven and we need to pray to her. That's something else.
@jgallete AS FAR AS YOU KNOW is right. Tradition is something past on from the beginning. For your church to be traditional it would have had to have been there from the start, Protestantism wasn't practice by Jesus or his Apostles, It did not come about till 1,500 year later (FACT) 1517AD Founded by Martin Luther . here is the major flaw of Protestantism, if you start from now and went backwards you would stop at 1517AD, It is not of the Apostolic Succession!!!
@dirtboy7777 - I didn't say as far as know is right. I said we keep tradition, which are the christian values.
And you are right, Protestantism came 1500 years later than Jesus. I could not agree more. So what? The Reformation was just a movement to restore some of the beliefs corrupted by the RCC.
Man, I hate religion! I'd never preach Protestantism to you if you didn't believe in the bible. I would preach Jesus, Christ alone! Religions tends to make itself as important as God.
@jgallete You Need education.. You are on You Tube if you go and post Your ideas, you have to accept the feed back. You are making criticisms about things you never learned about about or don't understand. Learn what Tradition is first? Your Church does have its OWN Tradition. and you have preach Protestantism to me and that ok, I know where it comes from, I have taken time to look up some of its beliefs and found them to be contradictory to the bible.
@dirtboy7777 - It is what it is. My church has its tradition based on the Bible. It's the true and simple way of worship that is on the Gospel. Here's what we believe: we adore, venerate, bow down, pray ONLY to the God Almighty. Nobody can come against that. It's the only truth. Now, if you believe those verbs can only be used in worship referring to God. We're good. If you don't, we're gonna discuss till the end of time.
@jgallete You know what doesn't make sense, There are 33,000 plus DIFFERENT denominations started by various Protestant Ministers. when ever the bible uses the word Church it is in a singular tense, There's no S on the end of it, It refers to it being 1 not 33,000 different ones. That make about as much sense as wiping before you poop. Do you think Jesus wanted everyone to think different, How come there 33,000 plus different Protestant Church Groups?
@dirtboy7777 - There are thousands of protestants groups. Lots of false prophets among them. People getting rich by using the Word of God in wrong ways. I don't think God's happy about that. I'm not a hypocrite, if there's something absurd and wrong with new evangelical churches, why should I not admit it? That's why I said back there I don't even call myself protestant, because people tend to think that what they see on evidence on the media is what represents a whole movement.
@dirtboy7777 - Like I said before, the Apostles had one church. We just have to go to the Bible and see the characteristics from this church. And all churches nowadays need to adapt to these characteristics. You can keep your wrong traditions created through history and say you're on the right church just because your church goes back longer and was created 300 years after Jesus' death. You can change the rules just because you think you have infallible leaders.
@dirtboy7777@dirtboy7777 - Like I said before, the Apostles had one church. We just have to go to the Bible and see the characteristics from this church. And all churches nowadays need to adapt to these characteristics. You can keep your wrong traditions created through history and say you're on the right church just because your church goes back longer and was created 300 years after Jesus' death. You cannot change the rules just because you think you have infallible leaders.
@jgallete And how was Luther restoring the beliefs of the RCC, when he wanted the nook of James thrown out? James is still in the bible! Do you not follow that part?
@dirtboy7777 - You're right again, Jesus and the apostles were not protestants. And you know what? I don't even call myself a protestant. That's just a name created to define some christian nowadays. The churches on the bible didn't even have names. The bible define God's people as Christians. NOTHING ELSE!
And if you really wanna go back to see which religion goes back longer, why aren't you Jewish? God started Judaism Himself. If you wanna go back, Jews have more tradition than your church.
@jgallete of course everyone called themselves Christians, But the Church was Catholic. Remember when I said know implicit or implied. Catholic means universal, on the whole, It means every where and anywhere all Believer in Christ think, believe and Worship the same way as ONE!. For 431 years the Christian people called their Church the Catholic Church. It like Italians come from Italy.
@dirtboy7777 Please understand that I'm not trying to make you become protestant. The Apostles were not protestant. They were Christians. Another things about the Apostles: They didn't have prayers for Mary or saints, they had only Jesus as mediator between men and God, they didn't bow down to images, not all of them were celibate, their church didn't have an specific name, they were jus christians following the simplicity of the Gospels.
@jgallete Also I do not follow Judaism because they don't believe Christ was the Messiah and he is still yet to come. They do not believe in the NT, And As I told you before look at the writing of the early Church Fathers, They predated the BIBLE and you will find the writing of the CATHOLIC CHURCH dating back to the 1st century over 300 years before the BIBLE existed.. Does that make sense to you. The Catholic Church came before the bible at the time of Christ.Read the Apostles Creed!
@dirtboy7777 - You see what I mean? Tradition is good, as long as it doesn't affect our beliefs. Jews were people and a religion created by God. God was their leader and gave orders directly to them, and even with God leading and talking to them all the time, you can see that they got corrupted several times throughout the OT. They made gods for themselves, they tried to mix up idols to their holy covenant, they did all sorts of bad things you can imagine.
@jgallete They had God directing them personally and got corrupted.They also got so caught up on their traditions and religious arrogance that, when God sent the Messiah, they killed Him.
Now think about it, they used to have God on their side and got corrupted. And you think that your infallible popes and traditions cannot be corrupted? That is so arrogant. Men are corrupt by nature.
@jgallete If you think just cause a few Popes were bad and you deny Catholic cause of that, you better check your own history. If The Pope let Martin Luther that was a part of the Catholic Church have his way, You would not be reading the book of James ( ONE OF THE APOSTLES) that is in the bible still, and odds are you would be Catholic right now, ad hearing to the Pope. Try tracing your own roots, before you start talking about others you really have no clue about.
I do not deny catholicism completely. I'm just showing you that the supreme authority that the RCC claims to have is a lie by reminding you of your own history. This supreme authority, not only is not biblical, but according to your own traditions and dogmas it has turned to be nothing but a myth. What the RCC has always had, is strong political power, not biblical powers.
@dirtboy7777 A person, to be considered holy and infallible has to live a life according to the gospels. I doubt some of your popes believed completely in Christ and were saved. I refuse to believe that the Holy Spirit would allow a church that has absolute power on earth have ambitious, murderers and adulterers as leaders. And I'm not talking about what I don't know. I'm repeating what a RCC Archbishop said, so there has to be some truth to it.
@jgallete gee better bone up on what i means to be infallible their fundie gee absolute power on earth boy tell me about this fantasy of yours gee who was that arch Bishop what was his name what did he say..
@jgallete Considering that all the original men who founded the Church deserted Jesus save one, and the leader of that first group of men denied Jesus to His face, I’d say that theory is pretty much bunk.....A person, to be considered holy and infallible has to live a life according to the gospels.
@martlut - You're absolutely right in every single way. Maybe you didn't read all my comments. I also think that the Pope's infallibility theory is incorrect in every single way. lol
@dirtboy7777 Martin Luther made unwise comments about the book of James, but he never actually threw it out of the bible. I've read his translation of the Bible and this book is still there.
I've never said Martin Luther was the protestants' holy father and infallible have I?
Now, if the RCC had her way, we'd not be reading the bible at all nowadays, unless we were RCC leaders. Because it's a fact that you holy church used to murder people just for translating the bible to their own languages.
@dirtboy7777 - Of course. There are no perfect pastors out there. What I'm saying is, how can you be infallible when it comes to the church matters if you're living a life of sin like some popes did.
I'm don't say that priests cannot have kids, but the RCC does. And if these priests cannot even live by their own standards, I've really tried to understand, how can they be infallible?
Peter didn't sin, he just didn't know he was gonna be called a pope later on, so that's why he got married. lol
@jgallete The Pope is just like anyone one else that is trying to live life, he is Human! He makes mistakes just like you, me your Pastor, my Priest Etc. Yes I agree with you some Pope went buck wild, in there life outside of the Church. NOW,The Pope when addressing the Church, The body of Christ Can only speak infallible and has. What you heard about this Pope and that Pope have been done outside of the church and a lot of it was political. Understand during these time periods what was happeni
Respond to this video... I can also agree with you about Priests not getting Married, but it was there choice and don't judge all priest because a few did wrong. Also it is in the bible about being a FULL time Pastor or Priest. Also it is a Priest Decision if he wants to do it or not, its a calling. Look at it this way, Jesus wasn't married!! AGAIN Search on you tube for a Tim Staples or Mike Cumbie, watch there videos on here. They were Protestant Pastors, find out why they came to the RC
@jgallete you just cant be this stupid can you So, I don't care how traditional the RCC is. I cannot accept her authority. I'm sorry, but Mary was not a virgin her whole life. Peter was married. Popes are not infallible, if they were, why would some of them be sexually active?
@jgallete yes you are stupid when you have no idea what the hell your talking about.Tell the Church defines infallible . I guess Peter wasn't infallible according to your definition Cut off that Romans ear Denying Christ
@jgallete really Not even Peter guess you haven't read what the Bible said about that.By the way stupid you don't have a clue what infallibility means
Respond to this video..If you haven't you also have to read writings the earlier Church Fathers, This would be the tradition part. Good one to start with is ST. Ignatius. Look up is writings. You find the Catholic Church back to the first century. Another key thing is know the meaning of implicit and explicit. The Roman Catholic church is in early Church father writings before the bible existed, I find it for you and get back to you
Respond to this video... Matthew also issued among the Hebrews a written Gospel in their own language, while Peter and Paul were evangelizing in Rome and laying the foundation of the Church" (Against Heresies, 3, 1:1 [A.D. 189]). , This was before the Bible and this also helps show Peter Primacy. Look at it this way if the foundation was laid in Rome and that's where the Church started as far as having its office, that is why we call ourselves Roman Catholic Church. Make sense?
@dirtboy7777 - I'm just a kid in my 20's, but I read a lot, and boy after I decided I needed to see for myself, what was wrong I what was right, and compare the doctrines to the bible, not to traditions, I have no doubt in my mind that what I believe now is what's on the Bible. Religion killed the christian within me. Jesus gave me joy. And boy, that joy is priceless! It's like, no matter what happens, you know you're not on this planet for no reason. You know you're here to glorify Jesus!
@jgallete 20 ahh the good old days...lol! Reading it and interpreting it are 2 different things. Its good your into it. You I dated this girl, who went to Assemblies of God, NIV, Chruch of God, Methodist, and i went with her. I even went to some of her Sunday schools classes, I am now going threw RCIA, so I can get confirmation. The difference in classes was like her Methodist class was first grade and Catholic felt like I was being taught be NASA.
Respond to this video... Go on Here You Tube and search for a Mike Cumbie and Tim Staples. These guys were Protestants Preachers. they give good and clear explanations of the differences. Also Patrick Madrid. I lot of times if I hear it rather than read it I better understand. Thats just how I am with somethings
@dirtboy7777 - Here's what I said: I don't do good works to be saved, Jesus did it for me. I have confidence in Him.
I do good works because that's how I demonstrate to the world that I'm saved and because I'm grateful to God. That's sanctification. Two completely different things.
@jgallete Jesus dies on the cross open up the door way for us, but that doesn't mean we don't have to do our part. Think of it this way, If all we need is faith and not good works threw faith or lets just say no good works at all. Would it make sense if all people had to do was have faith and believe Lord Jesus Christ is Our Savoir and than go on a killing spree knowing they'll be alright anyway, just because they have Faith? That would sound like something the Devil would want us to believe.
Respond to this video... look up on you tube, Mike Cumbie or Tim Staples, both these guys were Protestant Preachers and converted over to RCC. very interesting. I acually when on Mike Cumbies site on got some videos. It was a great help even if your Catholic. The biggest problem with people who are not Catholic the have a Miss conception of what Catholics Believe. and your not going to get that from a protestant preacher.
Respond to this video... If you dig and start right from the beginning and start your learning there with an OPEN mind, Go back to tradition, the early Fathers writings, You will find yourself at the Catholic Church. This verse always stands out when I see different denominations( 1Cor 1:10 - I urge that there be no divisions among you ) 2 Thess 3:6 - shun those acting not according to tradition and if this helps /thecatholicconvert.webs . com/
@jgallete your welcome and they shouldn't, Here what I did when getting started, I attacked catholoism all I could, but with an open mind, that's the key. I wanted to not only when or from who these other groups started, but WHY. Luther, Father Luther was not a nice man, King Henry plain out Killed people. and what surprises me is people follow these guys. These were the start of the vast different denominations and it really wasn't that long ago.
@jgallete the Demons Believe in God, but there not saved. 1Tim 5:8 he who doesn't provide for family worse than unbeliever.1 Cor 13:2 - faith without love is nothing Phil 2;12 - work out your salvation with fear and trembling as you attain the goal of your faith, salvation Mt 10:22 - he who endures to the end will be saved Mk 8:35 - whoever loses his life for my sake will save it Rom 2:2-8 - eternal life by perseverance in good works Eph 2:8-10 - we are created in Christ Jesus for good works
Respond to this video I didn't even give you have of the verse that talk about good works, If your not doing good works to get saved, I recommend you get a reality check. Even when you have to come up before the Church and confess Lord Jesus Christ as your savoir, You have to make that effort and do it! Sounds likes some works to me!! You dont just sit there and the Pastor do it for you, do you?
I'm only showing to you why the Bible says it's wrong to build statues with religious purposes. Don't get mad at me, I did not write the Bible.
You can have as many statues of "saints" as you want. That's up to you.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go to church, to play the drums, to worship, to bow down and to venerate only the true God Almighty. He is the joy of my life and He will be forever worthy of my humble praise.
@adamantis4657 - Wow. Now you're deciding who's saved and who isn't. Man you must be like the fourth person of the trinity or something like that. What am I to do so you can "give me back" my salvation? Join your "holy" church of Rome? lol
@adamantis4657 - And just so you know, you cannot base any of your actions on the OT. God had a particular way of conducting the people of Israel back then. For example, the israelites had commands to kill homosexuals and disobedient children back then. They also did what we know today by animal violence, which was the way they were forgiven of their sins.
FYI, we're under a new covenant nowadays (1 Cor.11:25). And we do not have to do any of these things from the OT.
@adamantis4657 - So.. The OT is for us just a base of faith. We do not have to obey all the commands from God given to the Isrelites, only the ones reaffirmed on the NT.
It is funny. I've never seen people at the end of the OT or on the NT bowing down or praying to statues of great men of God from the past who were dead. For example: saint Abraham, St Isaac, St Moses, St Jacob. I've also never seen such thing happening in the New Testament. People did pray to the only worthy of all prayers: the God Almighty. That's why I do the same.
I do love and honor the heroes from the bible, I wanna be the 1st one to hug Mary when she resurrects from the dead.
@adamantis4657 It is funny. I've never seen people at the end of the OT or on the NT bowing down or praying to statues of great men of God from the past who were dead. For example: saint Abraham, St Isaac, St Jacob. I've also never seen such thing happening in the New Testament. People did pray to the only worthy of all prayers: the God Almighty. That's why I do the same.
I do love and honor the heroes from the bible, I wanna be the 1st one to hug Mary when she resurrects from the dead.
You can keep doing it. Go ahead, bow down before whatever and whoever you want. Everyone has their own life to take care of.
But, please, don't tell me the Bible it's ok with it, because if you're willing to put your pride aside and pray to God directly. I'm sure (I guarantee) that He will show you in your heart that it's a sin.
We all should be guided ONLY by the bible. Of course there should be no private interpretation of the bible, but there shouldn't be just one wrong interpretation from a church headquarters in Vatican.
St. PETER: FIRST OF ALL - NO PRIVATED INTERPRETATION of the SCRIPTURES.
Why do u think there are THOUSENS OF PROTESTANTS HERETIC SECTS one condemming the other? Baptists, Mormons, Witnessers of Jehova, Adventists, Calvinists, Lutherans, etc..
Becaue THEY ALL FOLLOW THEMSELVES and not the Word of BIBLE. Also Satan has used the Word of the Bible to tempt CHRIST. So the Bible alone will not save u. Because u need the correct interpretation.
@jgallete. REALLY - and where do u know that u follow the right FAITH IN CHRIST?
As u can see there are many different FAITHS IN CHRIST? The Bible alone will not save u because it is hard to understand sometimes. AND WE NEED THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION.
Most american Sect leaders to not even know the basics of EXEGETIC: They do not even know hebrew or old greek.
How can they dare to think they can interprete the Scriptures? They are blinded by Demons
18 You shall make also two cherubims of beaten gold, on the two sides of the oracle.
19 Let one cherub be on the one side, and the other on the other.
20 Let them cover both sides of the propitiatory, spreading their wings, and covering the oracle, and let them look one towards the other, their faces being turned towards the propitiatory wherewith the ark is to be covered.
Nope. He has the authority to ask them personally to build whatever He wanted. DID HE ASKED THEM TO BOW BEFORE THE CHERUBIMS AND THEIR WINGS? I don't think so.
@jgallete: LOL - first u did say GOD has forbidden EVERY KIND OF IMAGE. Now u say: He can order what HE wants - but those Images were not honored!
The Israelits honored those Images and Statues BECAUSE BETWEEN THE CHERUBIM GOD APPEARED in HIS GLORY.
Yes - THEY EVEN BOWED down. Before Angels, before Prophets etc.. They kissed the Temple, the Arc with the Commandments of God, they even bowed to the Temple - the house of God.
Also in the New Testament people bowed down to the Apostles!
@jgallete: THE TEMPLE OF GOD FULL OF IMAGES AND STATUES:
23 And he made in the oracle two cherubims of olive tree, of ten cubits in height.
24 One wing of the cherub was five cubits, and the other wing of the cherub was five cubits: that is, in all ten cubits, from the extremity of one wing to the extremity of the other wing.
25 The second cherub also was ten cubits: and the measure, and the work was the same in both the cherubims:
29 And all the walls of the temple round about he carved with divers figures and carvings: and he made in them cherubims and palm trees, and divers representations, as it were standing out, and coming forth from the wall.
WOW - even with GOLD. WALL FULL OF IMAGES! u won't more? Because the Bible is full of IMAGES
Thank you very much ,
Catholic church is the true church of Jesus
Christ , other churches violate third Commandment by dishonouring virgin mary the mother of lord Jesus Christ .
aruvi231 3 days ago
Stop right there. The Catholic Church does NOT consider the Eastern Orthodox to be heretical, merely schismatic. All sacraments by the Orthodox are valid in the Catholic Church. There are innumerable Church documents to prove this. Orientale Lumen is a good start.
Garbanzo884 5 days ago
The Catholic Church is the ONLY church founded by Christ, not man.
28804ecorrell 1 week ago
@28804ecorrell The Orthodox Church was founded by Christ, also.
trueorthodoxfaith 5 days ago
Rom 1:16 If the gospel of Jesus Christ is the power of God unto salvation to all those that believeth.... that is what we need . The true gospel of Jesus Christ
knowledge999999999 1 week ago
Yet the bible says that God wills all men to be saved! (1 Tim 2:4) will... want wish yearn desire. It is Gods desire that all men be saved.
knowledge999999999 1 week ago
Beware of false spirits and false leaders
knowledge999999999 1 week ago
Viva Cristo Rey!
catholicart 1 week ago
The truth will set you free! People don't want the truth because they will have to repent and change their lives but it is worth it. God is a God of order and so people are deceived into thinking that you can join any religion and save your soul. That's a lie from the devil. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ, God made man, and all others were founded by men who had no authority to start a church or religion such as Henry VIII, Luther, etc.
fatima01917 1 week ago
@fatima01917 What about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Many members are experiencing the revelations of God... and in the Bible you read that where there is no vision the people perish.
knowledge999999999 1 week ago
So do 54 people dislike the truth? I didn't know that such a thing was possible. I was under the impression that as intellectual humans we are inherently inclined to seek the truth.
Thank you for the video.
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catchzz 2 weeks ago
I don't have a church; Jesus does. And the one Jesus founded is defined by wherever his Spirit dwells not by a heirarchy or by doctrines. The Catholic church is an invention of wayward earthly men started by men like Athanasius of Alexandria and Emperor Theodosius.
StringPlunker 3 weeks ago
Who founded the Orthodox Church?
EncoresGameplay 3 weeks ago
This video is the BUSSINESS...so proud to be Catholic..thank you for this
conniewalker79 3 weeks ago
Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God, God in the Flesh started MY Church. "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Matthew 28:16-20
Jesus gave it to ALL of the Apostles, not just Peter.
And they gave it to us.
hammerogod 1 month ago
I grew up a Catholic, in a Catholic home, Catholic school, Catholic traditions, 21 years as a Catholic.....then I found Jesus after I left the Catholics.
No Popes, No praying to Statues, No Confessing to a Priest...Just Jesus.
I never heard the "Gospel" (the truth about Salvation by Grace) until I got away from the Traditions.
For 21 years I believed that I was going to Hell if I ate meat on Friday or missed Mass on Sunday.
No hope, no grace, no salvation...that was MY Catholic experience.
hammerogod 1 month ago
@hammerogod Just have to say its unfortunate you didnt understand the church or the scriptures when you were a part of it. I dont see being a lone ranger Christian as the message of scripture since the church is the undivided Body of Christ. If you choose to go it alone, you've separated yourself from the bretheren & the very Bride of Christ. It really isnt the Church's fault if you were not aware of Salvation by Grace - thats THE message of the church. Dont blame Her if you chose not to listen.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod Oh so youre some genius about the Catholic church which clearly extends to your ability to know me. I see how it is. Thats great you lived out the faith of the church when you did but I guess eventually some people choose to leave. There are bad apples everywhere. You clearly are some spiritual Christian that knows my faith & how I live it out. Dont slander me, theres NO message in scripture whatsoever telling us to be lone ranger believers. Take the offending brother to the church.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
@catchzz
I knew you were not listening.
I know you didn't get it.
I know your mind is made up.
You didn't answer my questions nor did you address the issues I posed.
This difference between me and you is that I read the Bible.
You know, that big white book on the coffee table that most Catholics completely ignore?
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod Sure your an idiot. As I stated, I have read the bible & thats why I know bigots like you are not a part of the true church. Not the church that Jesus instructs me to send people like you - Matthew 18:15.
The difference btw me & you is that I know you are a Catholic hater. You dont know me or how I live my faith at all. It is pointless for you to tell me how I am when you have no idea.
Get it?
catchzz 3 weeks ago
@catchzz
Do you even know what the "True Church" is.
It is ALL believers.
Matthew 18:20
It is NOT any particular Denomination.
Saying that I am not a part of the "True" church even though I have been a Believer for most of my life is not something you got from the Holy Spirit.
It sounds like a poor defense of the Church of Rome.
When I was a Catholic I used to look at the poor Protestants and pity them because I was taught they were going to Hell.
Is that what you believe?
Now I pity you.
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod I hope you take a step back for once & realize how stupid you sound when you keep putting words in my mouth:
"Is that what you believe?
Now I pity you."
Again, you dont know me & of course thats NOT what I believe. However your assumption that everyone is a part of the true church is just plain wrong. It is illogical that EVERYONE can be correct. There is a clear, true, & visible church, & I can go to Matt 18:15-18 to know Christ is having His believers find truth in one place.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod OK so then youre not a Catholic hater, but you DO lack understanding of the Catholic church. If you really understood it like you claim to, you wouldnt make the elementary blunder that Catholics dont know their bibles. You would have clearly known the Catholic mass is FULL of scripture & is read in its entirety in the course of a few yrs. OT reading, NT reading, Gosple, Pslams, etc @ every Mass, the greatest prayer on earth. Dont tell me u know Catholics or they dont know scripture.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
@catchzz
Yes, the Priest reads from the Bible, out loud, to the entire congregation, at every mass. (well, sometimes not at the early 6:30 am red eye mass that us poor working schmucks attended often).
But do you open your Bible at home?
Truth moment, do you?
A brief, yes or no, question.
I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
I was baptized, I repented (and still do frequently when I fail), I confess my sins to God regularly, frequently and with remorse.
Am I your Brother in Christ?
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod Have I opened the bible.. of course & thats why I am Catholic. The scriptures point to the one, holy, catholic, & apostolic church. Theres no other 'church' on earth that can make that claim. I have many protestant friends & family members, I know their faith & they are good Christian people. I have many friends who are devout Catholics, some deacons & they are good Christian people. When the scriptures paint the picture of Christs church, its clear that its true & visible.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
@catchzz Imagine holding on to a church your whole life only to find out that it was of man... it was corrupt and dead. You were living a lie your whole life.... these things are truly not funny. Heavenly Father will not be mocked... why is it that we are so prideful
knowledge999999999 1 week ago
@knowledge999999999 It is unfortunate that many hold on to a false "church". I pray that those following a false church will one day realize that Christ only established one true and visible church, the Roman Catholic church.
catchzz 1 week ago
@catchzz You are neglecting the fact that the entire church from the beginning was one church, founded by Christ, until Rome separated from the Eastern Orthodox in 1054 AD.
vasilyjc1955 3 days ago
@vasilyjc1955 Well we could get into that whole debate, but Rome wasnt the one that separated.
catchzz 3 days ago
@catchzz You are ignorant of church history. It was Cardinal Humbert and the Latin delegates who entered Hagia Sohia, disrupting the Liturgy and placing the bull of excommunication on the alter in 1054. Five days later the Patriarch of Constantinople excommunicated the pope.
vasilyjc1955 3 days ago
@vasilyjc1955 Im not ignorant of church history at all. By the way, the pope has the authority to excommunicate not the patriarch. Anyway, I see no point in arguing this with you, when there is no much anticathoic bias in the protestant world. At least our churches are in line, but that doesnt deny that the pope is the head of the church on earth.
catchzz 12 hours ago
@hammerogod So being aware the Priests reads out loud the scriptures is living proof that if you attend Mass you are hearing the scriptures. You seem to forget that for the majority of Christian history thats how it HAD to be. I hope you realize the printing press has not existed for majority of the time Christ established His new covenant. I dont think you think too far outside of the box. Not only have bibles not been readily available throughout history, but many Christians were illiterate.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod Which in turn means that a person is by no means less of a Christian if they've never physically read the scriptures themselves. If you attend Mass, you are hearing & learning about Gods Word. The Catholic church of course does encourage reading the scriptures, but Christ never condemned anyone for being illiterate.
Are you a brother in Christ.. yes, I never stated otherwise. BUT you are not a member of the ONE true church receiving the fullness of truth in the deposit of faith.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
@catchzz
1 Timothy 2:5
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
Look at that passage of Scripture very carefully.
If you can find the words Priest, Cardinal, Bishop, Arch-Bishop or Pope there then you tell me.
Otherwse go fish.
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod Great! One mediator, I know that. Thats why our Christian brothers & sisters can pray for us since they are ALIVE in Christ. Guess what, they are more alive than you & I. Do you not recall Pauls teachings of intercessory prayer?
Since the communion of saints are in union with the Body of Christ, I can have them take my prayers to the Christ Jesus to be the metiator to God the Father.
Dont pretend to know me dude, you dont exhibit the quality of ESP.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod I know you clearly dont get it. You must clearly not get that Christians are together in ONE Body of Christ where death doesnt separate bretheren. I can ask those who've gone before me to pray to God just as I can ask my neighbor/friend. Its what Paul taught to do, its whats stated in James 5:16. Doesnt get much more powerful when those in the Kingdom who have attained total righteousness are continuing their prayers for us, here. Mary & the saints are alive in Christ.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod yes there is one mediator between god and man and that is Jesus and Jesus gave the power the blessed Mary and the saints to intercede between him(christ, god, the lord) and man through the power of prayer because they are fully alive and closest to him.
lovencare62 3 weeks ago
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hammerogod 3 weeks ago
hammerogod 3 weeks ago
@hammerogod Oh please you fool, I am utterly amazed you think you know me so well. Ive read up on the theological concepts. I know how to sort through the hogwash. I know Popes throughout time havent been holy, I know humans that make up the church have been corrupt, but that doesnt change the truth of the deposit of faith. I know the Marian doctrines of which you clearly feel for the extreme taking things out of context. Maybe you should get to know the real church & not the charicature, Dude.
catchzz 3 weeks ago
The chant in this video is beautiful. What piece is it? Also, the Holy Catholic Church is the One True Church. Viva il Papa!
jl2dobrzyn 1 month ago
@jl2dobrzyn I'm not the uploader but it's a Gregorian Chant called "Dies Irae"
DavidVelezPerez 1 month ago
The Catholic Church is NOT founded by Jesus Christ at all!!! He never said for peter to become the Pope ! You waste all this Time to present some good Points only to ruin it with your ridiculous conclusion that the Whore of Babylon is the Church of Christ! Christ hated Organized Religion and he certainly would never have created a Monstrosity of Torture Murder Rape Violence and Deceit as the Catholic Babylonian Pagan Roman Church is!!
BluesHarp60 1 month ago
@BluesHarp60
Delusional, you are. Along with 2,000 years of Christian history, along with Saints, there are sinners. Idiots like you always focus on the sinners. Look in the mirror, you blooming idiot. Wake up, and smell the coffee. May God lead you into the One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church that Christ began & which He handed the Keys to Peter. You obviously forget the Keys to the Kingdom-typical for a protestant. And where in Scripture did Jesus command anyone to build his own church?
BigBingFan 1 month ago
@BigBingFan First of all I am NOT a blooming idiot!! I have no idea where Jesus commanded anyone to build his Church! Thought i tried to point out to you that he DIDNT! Don't try to reconvert me...been Catholic...got out many years ago and would never ever join the Roman Pagan Club ever again!
BluesHarp60 1 month ago
@BluesHarp60 Actually anyone that refers to the Catholic church as the Roman Pagan Club is most certainaly a blooming idiot. Just because you didnt understand the Catholic church when you were in it doesnt give you the right to be a bigot about it. Jesus Christ established a church and that is fact of history. He called everyone to belong to the body of Christ and NOT walk alone in the dark. We are united as Christians in ONE flock where there is ONE shepherd, and ONE truth. Amen
catchzz 1 month ago
@BluesHarp60 Jesus said (Matt.16:18)"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it". Peter means rock. Peter was the bishop of Rome. Peter was the leader of the Apostles after Jesus. He was the first pope and Jesus did tell him that.
Mr150Rob 1 month ago
The Holy Catholic Church has had corrupt leaders but we pull ourselves up and acknowledged that in some areas we have a dark past only because of men. Today the Church stands strong Though we are persecuted for our faith. Our faith is the oldest Christian faith why Cant all Christians be Catholic? If not then at least acknowledge that we are CHRISTIAN !!!!!!!!!!!!
Marv23able 1 month ago
AWESOME video. Typo, third slide...."WAS WAS" :) God bless you!
jacrn323 1 month ago
From what I've read, people keep bringing up the fact that the Pope is infallible period. Of course he is human and he can make mistakes. The infallibility comes in where he can not change Scripture nor can he do harm to "The Bride of Christ" through the Holy Spirit. The differences in the Catholic Church and the other Churches is that the Catholic Church is the only one that can literally change the the Eucharist and Wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. I like that.
cleoc1996 1 month ago
every religion has its faults so DONT blame catholocism for EVERYTHING.!
TheInnerBeautyOut 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
wonderfull video, GOD BLESS U
MUTEKISOUND 1 month ago
wonderful video!
pebbsmith65 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 You mean James 2:17? There he says that if you have faith you have to demonstrate it in your life. But you're still save through grace by faith.
I remember when I used to be catholic, and I was so afraid and scared that all my works wouldn't be enough to get me saved. lol I was right. My works would never be enough to save me. Thanks God that he saved me through his infinite grace, and today, I do good works NOT TO BE saved, but BECAUSE I was saved and I'm grateful.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone., That was James 2 17, If your referring to This has having just faith and your good to go, that is not scriptural. Even is you have faith, If you have not WORKS, It is dead, Being Alone. Sorry I met Jam 2:24 - a man is justified by works and not by faith alone, this will back James 2 177 up also.Jam 2:26 - faith without works is dead. You need Both . Good works threw faith is God wil
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - Demons did not believe in God, they knew God was powerful, so did Satan. But they tried to be better than God and take his place. Now, most of these verses are out of context. What I will do is explain them to you. Im not just gonna throw other verses back at you, to justify what Paul taught in the Bible.
I think this is so arrogant that you would think that you works could be put beside the death of Jesus in order to save you. That is why I hate religion. Salvation is a gift!
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete So what your saying is the demon did not know God exist.. Can you explain what these verses mean that I sent you, even if they are out of context? Just explain what James met in 2 14 24...Jam 2:14-24 - a man is justified by works & not faith alone. Going by your point of view this must mean something totally different than what it says or you dont consider this be accurate of the bible or the rest of the verses I sent you. so I would love to see what you think James 2 14 24 means!
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - Even if our works could help us get saved. WE WOULD NEVER BE SAVED!
Because we are sinners. We sin before God every single day. Here is what the Bible says:
(You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. Gal. 5:4)
And about our works:All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
(Isaiah 64:6)
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete . Paul is really not talking about how to get saved here or about the possibility of losing salvation, but about what legalism does to one’s ability to grow, mature, and experience the power of God in his or her life. When one trusts in some form of legalism (as in circumcision or whatever) for righteousness before God whether for salvation or for sanctification, they have fallen out of the grace way of life by faith in the finished work and provision of Christ couldn't fit it all
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@jgallete Isaiah 64:6 one should read not only that verse but the entire Isaiah 64 to see the context, as well as other part of the Bible. In fact Isaiah 64:5 says: Thou [God] meetest him that joyfully works righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways. God blesses the righteous (Psalms 5:12), He loves righteous deeds (Psalms 11:7) and does reward us for being righteous (Psalms 18:20, Proverbs 11:18). Romans 3:10 say no one is righteous but at the same time Scripture, couldn't fit it
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... Still waiting for you to explain James 2 14 24 to me Jam 2:14-24 - a man is justified by works & not faith alone. In case you forgot
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - Since God's word is inspired, there are no contradictions. Paul said in Romans 4 that salvation comes through grace, not from woks, just so no one can brag about it. James 2:14 is talking about the justification of a christian, not earning salvation. He is teaching about how grace must be active, even after you are saved and are under the grace of God. Romans 4 and James 2 are written about justification but from different perspectives... The bible does not contradict itself.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete I say James is talking about Justification,, but he means works threw faith. Is this to hard for you to embrace? What about Rom 2:2-8 - eternal life by perseverance in good works, What does this mean? Its not a different perspective than that would make 2 totally different theory's and that don't make no sense. Your problem is you read and use 1 signal verse, which you can't do in the bible. (4 Now to one who works, his wages are not reckoned as a gift but as his due)
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... Also what is really wrong about doing good works threw Faith? Jesus did all kinds of works, do you think he wants everyone to just sit there in a stare and not do nothing. In the bible. Whats Pete Talking about here? 1Pet 1:17 - God judges impartially according to one's works You really have to read into what Paul is saying to get the full understanding. I don't have time to put the whole thing on here research the all of Romans..
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - There is nothing wrong with doing good works through faith. That is good and is what God wants us to do. This is a part of holiness that God wants all christian to live in. I am pro-good works, yayyyyy!! Praise God! lol
I just thinks good works have nothing to do with your salvation. But it is a result from your salvation.
I think that if you deserve heaven by your works at least a lil bit, it is like saying that ur works are compared to the death of Jesus for your sins.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete I'm glad that you reconize that is what God wants us to do, but you did just contradict yourself by saying that it (is what God wants us to do) and your right in saying that. Its not that Catholics rely only on good works, but faith also. See we believe in part the same way you do in having faith just as much as anyone, we just also apply faith in our works if you can understand that.
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - How did I contradict myself? I will take my life as an example to tell you what the bible tells us. I was saved by God through grace by faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Salvation is something I will never deserve. Part 1.
Now I am saved and start to live the best way I can according to what the gospel teaches. That is, God wants me to be holy as He is. I will never be as holy as Him, but I need to try. Even when I do good works, I do it all through Christ. Part 2
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete well, your here saying you don't do good works to be saved, This was said in an earlier post. Then you just said in the post you put before this.- (There is nothing wrong with doing good works through faith. That is good and is what God wants us to do.) well if your saying that is what God wants us to do, how come your not doing it? And then Luther didn't agree with The book of James, matter of fact he said throw Jimmy into the stove, (nice) You are the in disagreement with Luther.
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - If we go back to traditions, and go back in history, there's no denial that the RCC goes way back before the protestant church.
But if we go back to the pure biblical churches, a lot of the RCC doctrines are not in the Bible. I was a catholic myself, so was my mom and here's the problem (not to me, to the RCC). I did start learning with an OPEN mind. That's why I left. Actually I never joined the RCC officially.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete Here where Traditions come in to Catholics. See It took almost 400 yrs (33Ad-397AD) for the books to circulate to forum the bible that was in 397 Ad, hand copied and compiled by the Bishops of the Catholic Church! If you are a bible only Christian and were living before this, just say 2nd century You would not known anything. Jesus Gave his people a Church first, Jesus didn't even mention the bible in the bible. Bible 2 Thess 2:15 - hold fast to traditions, whether oral or by letter
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 @dirtboy7777 And my point about tradition is: Tradition is good. It helps us keep what our ancestors left us. But, when the people who keep these traditions start making their own rules, doctrines, giving superpowers to men and etc... Then we got a problem. If the most popular church on earth start saying something that's not on the bible, then I have to believe in her holy authority, right? NOPE. I'd rather stick with the Bible.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete The word Trinity, Incarnation or even the word bible are not in the Bible. So I guess you don't believe in these things. Every Christian I know Catholic or not believes in this. This is why I told you know the words implicit..even the in the implies scripture is not enough, Jn 21:25 - not everything Jesus said recorded in Scripture,Acts 20;35 - Paul records a saying of Jesus not found in gospels 2Tim2:2 - what you heard entrust to faithful men Rom 10:17 - faith come from what is heard
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... so you would rather take the word of Luther who came 1500 year after, Who was Catholic himself to they threw him out of the Church. He didn't walk out on his own, he wanted HIS own set of rules and the book of James thrown out. Why because even he new the Catholic Church was Given the ability to bind and loose, see Mathews. and your pastors were Ordained by who? I got a task for you. Can you trace who Ordained your Pastor all the way back to the time of Christ?
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - Here's what the Apostle Paul said about people who preach things that are not in the gospels: "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:8
So, I don't care how traditional the RCC is. I cannot accept her authority. I'm sorry, but Mary was not a virgin her whole life. Peter was married. Popes are not infallible, if they were, why would some of them be sexually active?
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete Paul saying just to preach the Gospel of Jesus and I agree. But there all not in the Bible as Paul recorded in Acts 20-35 as I already sent you. And If you don't honor the Catholic Church that's up to you, Lk 10:16 - whoever hears you, hears me; rejects you, rejects me., See Some of these writings I told you to read, were from guys appointed by some of the Apostles themselves, They believed in them, Why don't you? Are you saying Peter, John etc, made the wrong choice?
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... I agree the were some Popes that did not lead the right life for themselves, The are people just like you and me, But threw the years they did and could only speak infallible when addressing the Church. The Gates of Hades will never Prevail against it right? Just like there are not perfect Protestant Pastors out there, but no one said Protestantism shouldn't exists because its Pastors did wrong. ThePope canspeak infallible outside of the Church just like you a me
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... I don't now if Mary had sex after Jesus or not, but she was a Virgin before..Thats a whole other subject..lol! The bible said we have to follow tradition also if your want to go by the bible right. The bible was giving to us by the Catholic Church (FACT)! I guess you don't believe in the Apostles Creed either? Odds are you switched because the Catholic Religions rules were a little tuff and you found something easier, You found someone to point out why not to be...
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - I'm from a protestant church that is as far as I know, very traditional. We even pledge to dress with decency at all times, just so there's a difference between us and whoever wants to live as they wish.
So, why would I be seeking something easier? lol
I agree that Mary was a virgin before Jesus. That she was sinless her whole life and assumed to heaven and we need to pray to her. That's something else.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete AS FAR AS YOU KNOW is right. Tradition is something past on from the beginning. For your church to be traditional it would have had to have been there from the start, Protestantism wasn't practice by Jesus or his Apostles, It did not come about till 1,500 year later (FACT) 1517AD Founded by Martin Luther . here is the major flaw of Protestantism, if you start from now and went backwards you would stop at 1517AD, It is not of the Apostolic Succession!!!
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - I didn't say as far as know is right. I said we keep tradition, which are the christian values.
And you are right, Protestantism came 1500 years later than Jesus. I could not agree more. So what? The Reformation was just a movement to restore some of the beliefs corrupted by the RCC.
Man, I hate religion! I'd never preach Protestantism to you if you didn't believe in the bible. I would preach Jesus, Christ alone! Religions tends to make itself as important as God.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete You Need education.. You are on You Tube if you go and post Your ideas, you have to accept the feed back. You are making criticisms about things you never learned about about or don't understand. Learn what Tradition is first? Your Church does have its OWN Tradition. and you have preach Protestantism to me and that ok, I know where it comes from, I have taken time to look up some of its beliefs and found them to be contradictory to the bible.
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - It is what it is. My church has its tradition based on the Bible. It's the true and simple way of worship that is on the Gospel. Here's what we believe: we adore, venerate, bow down, pray ONLY to the God Almighty. Nobody can come against that. It's the only truth. Now, if you believe those verbs can only be used in worship referring to God. We're good. If you don't, we're gonna discuss till the end of time.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete You know what doesn't make sense, There are 33,000 plus DIFFERENT denominations started by various Protestant Ministers. when ever the bible uses the word Church it is in a singular tense, There's no S on the end of it, It refers to it being 1 not 33,000 different ones. That make about as much sense as wiping before you poop. Do you think Jesus wanted everyone to think different, How come there 33,000 plus different Protestant Church Groups?
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - There are thousands of protestants groups. Lots of false prophets among them. People getting rich by using the Word of God in wrong ways. I don't think God's happy about that. I'm not a hypocrite, if there's something absurd and wrong with new evangelical churches, why should I not admit it? That's why I said back there I don't even call myself protestant, because people tend to think that what they see on evidence on the media is what represents a whole movement.
jgallete 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - Like I said before, the Apostles had one church. We just have to go to the Bible and see the characteristics from this church. And all churches nowadays need to adapt to these characteristics. You can keep your wrong traditions created through history and say you're on the right church just because your church goes back longer and was created 300 years after Jesus' death. You can change the rules just because you think you have infallible leaders.
jgallete 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 @dirtboy7777 - Like I said before, the Apostles had one church. We just have to go to the Bible and see the characteristics from this church. And all churches nowadays need to adapt to these characteristics. You can keep your wrong traditions created through history and say you're on the right church just because your church goes back longer and was created 300 years after Jesus' death. You cannot change the rules just because you think you have infallible leaders.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete gee what rules were changed
martlut 1 month ago
@martlut Glory and special honors to Christ alone.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete Where does it say that in the bible????
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@jgallete Mary
Lk 1:28, 30 - angel: "full of grace, found favor with God
Lk 1:42 - Elizabeth: "most blessed among women"
Lk 1:48 - Mary: "all generations will call me blessed"
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@jgallete Rom 16:17 - avoid those who create dissensions
1Cor 1:10 - I urge that there be no divisions among you
Phil 2:2 - be of same mind, united in heart thinking one thing
Col 3:15 - the peace into which you
Mt 16:18-19 - upon this rock I will build my Church (singular)
Mt 18:17 - tell it to THE Church; if he refuses to listen even to THE Church... (must be visible)
Jn 17:17-23 - I pray that they may be one, as we are one
Jn 17:23 - that they may be brought to perfection as one
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@jgallete And how was Luther restoring the beliefs of the RCC, when he wanted the nook of James thrown out? James is still in the bible! Do you not follow that part?
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - You're right again, Jesus and the apostles were not protestants. And you know what? I don't even call myself a protestant. That's just a name created to define some christian nowadays. The churches on the bible didn't even have names. The bible define God's people as Christians. NOTHING ELSE!
And if you really wanna go back to see which religion goes back longer, why aren't you Jewish? God started Judaism Himself. If you wanna go back, Jews have more tradition than your church.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete of course everyone called themselves Christians, But the Church was Catholic. Remember when I said know implicit or implied. Catholic means universal, on the whole, It means every where and anywhere all Believer in Christ think, believe and Worship the same way as ONE!. For 431 years the Christian people called their Church the Catholic Church. It like Italians come from Italy.
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 Please understand that I'm not trying to make you become protestant. The Apostles were not protestant. They were Christians. Another things about the Apostles: They didn't have prayers for Mary or saints, they had only Jesus as mediator between men and God, they didn't bow down to images, not all of them were celibate, their church didn't have an specific name, they were jus christians following the simplicity of the Gospels.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete Also I do not follow Judaism because they don't believe Christ was the Messiah and he is still yet to come. They do not believe in the NT, And As I told you before look at the writing of the early Church Fathers, They predated the BIBLE and you will find the writing of the CATHOLIC CHURCH dating back to the 1st century over 300 years before the BIBLE existed.. Does that make sense to you. The Catholic Church came before the bible at the time of Christ.Read the Apostles Creed!
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - You see what I mean? Tradition is good, as long as it doesn't affect our beliefs. Jews were people and a religion created by God. God was their leader and gave orders directly to them, and even with God leading and talking to them all the time, you can see that they got corrupted several times throughout the OT. They made gods for themselves, they tried to mix up idols to their holy covenant, they did all sorts of bad things you can imagine.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete They had God directing them personally and got corrupted.They also got so caught up on their traditions and religious arrogance that, when God sent the Messiah, they killed Him.
Now think about it, they used to have God on their side and got corrupted. And you think that your infallible popes and traditions cannot be corrupted? That is so arrogant. Men are corrupt by nature.
jgallete 1 month ago
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@jgallete so I guess using your own words you are corrupt as well Now think about it, they used to have God on their side and got corrupted.
martlut 1 month ago
@jgallete If you think just cause a few Popes were bad and you deny Catholic cause of that, you better check your own history. If The Pope let Martin Luther that was a part of the Catholic Church have his way, You would not be reading the book of James ( ONE OF THE APOSTLES) that is in the bible still, and odds are you would be Catholic right now, ad hearing to the Pope. Try tracing your own roots, before you start talking about others you really have no clue about.
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jgallete 1 month ago
I do not deny catholicism completely. I'm just showing you that the supreme authority that the RCC claims to have is a lie by reminding you of your own history. This supreme authority, not only is not biblical, but according to your own traditions and dogmas it has turned to be nothing but a myth. What the RCC has always had, is strong political power, not biblical powers.
jgallete 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 A person, to be considered holy and infallible has to live a life according to the gospels. I doubt some of your popes believed completely in Christ and were saved. I refuse to believe that the Holy Spirit would allow a church that has absolute power on earth have ambitious, murderers and adulterers as leaders. And I'm not talking about what I don't know. I'm repeating what a RCC Archbishop said, so there has to be some truth to it.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete Lets just leave this at, its been real and good luck with your drum session!
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - People before us haven't come to an agreement in hundreds of years, so why would we? lol
Best of luck to you too.
God bless you.
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete gee better bone up on what i means to be infallible their fundie gee absolute power on earth boy tell me about this fantasy of yours gee who was that arch Bishop what was his name what did he say..
martlut 1 month ago
@jgallete Considering that all the original men who founded the Church deserted Jesus save one, and the leader of that first group of men denied Jesus to His face, I’d say that theory is pretty much bunk.....A person, to be considered holy and infallible has to live a life according to the gospels.
martlut 1 month ago
@martlut - You're absolutely right in every single way. Maybe you didn't read all my comments. I also think that the Pope's infallibility theory is incorrect in every single way. lol
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete gee what is this theory
martlut 1 month ago
@jgallete
Hello,
What do you believe that Catholics believe about infallibility? Please be detailed.
baldonebear 1 month ago
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@dirtboy7777 Martin Luther made unwise comments about the book of James, but he never actually threw it out of the bible. I've read his translation of the Bible and this book is still there.
I've never said Martin Luther was the protestants' holy father and infallible have I?
Now, if the RCC had her way, we'd not be reading the bible at all nowadays, unless we were RCC leaders. Because it's a fact that you holy church used to murder people just for translating the bible to their own languages.
jgallete 1 month ago
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Respond to this video... If you go on my Page under my Favorites you find all the videos Then get back to me.
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
@dirtboy7777 - Of course. There are no perfect pastors out there. What I'm saying is, how can you be infallible when it comes to the church matters if you're living a life of sin like some popes did.
I'm don't say that priests cannot have kids, but the RCC does. And if these priests cannot even live by their own standards, I've really tried to understand, how can they be infallible?
Peter didn't sin, he just didn't know he was gonna be called a pope later on, so that's why he got married. lol
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete The Pope is just like anyone one else that is trying to live life, he is Human! He makes mistakes just like you, me your Pastor, my Priest Etc. Yes I agree with you some Pope went buck wild, in there life outside of the Church. NOW,The Pope when addressing the Church, The body of Christ Can only speak infallible and has. What you heard about this Pope and that Pope have been done outside of the church and a lot of it was political. Understand during these time periods what was happeni
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
Respond to this video... I can also agree with you about Priests not getting Married, but it was there choice and don't judge all priest because a few did wrong. Also it is in the bible about being a FULL time Pastor or Priest. Also it is a Priest Decision if he wants to do it or not, its a calling. Look at it this way, Jesus wasn't married!! AGAIN Search on you tube for a Tim Staples or Mike Cumbie, watch there videos on here. They were Protestant Pastors, find out why they came to the RC
dirtboy7777 1 month ago
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@jgallete you just cant be this stupid can you So, I don't care how traditional the RCC is. I cannot accept her authority. I'm sorry, but Mary was not a virgin her whole life. Peter was married. Popes are not infallible, if they were, why would some of them be sexually active?
martlut 1 month ago
@martlut - if you believe otherwise, am I really the one who is stupid?
jgallete 1 month ago
@jgallete yes you are stupid when you have no idea what the hell your talking about.Tell the Church defines infallible . I guess Peter wasn't infallible according to your definition Cut off that Romans ear Denying Christ
martlut 1 month ago
@martlut - Yes, exactally. And that's what I've been trying to say on my comments. Not even Peter was infallible. Not in any concept of the word.
I don't really see why I'm stupid, if I agree with you. lol
jgallete 1 month ago
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martlut 1 month ago
@jgallete really Not even Peter guess you haven't read what the Bible said about that.By the way stupid you don't have a clue what infallibility means
martlut 1 month ago
Respond to this video..If you haven't you also have to read writings the earlier Church Fathers, This would be the tradition part. Good one to start with is ST. Ignatius. Look up is writings. You find the Catholic Church back to the first century. Another key thing is know the meaning of implicit and explicit. The Roman Catholic church is in early Church father writings before the bible existed, I find it for you and get back to you
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... Matthew also issued among the Hebrews a written Gospel in their own language, while Peter and Paul were evangelizing in Rome and laying the foundation of the Church" (Against Heresies, 3, 1:1 [A.D. 189]). , This was before the Bible and this also helps show Peter Primacy. Look at it this way if the foundation was laid in Rome and that's where the Church started as far as having its office, that is why we call ourselves Roman Catholic Church. Make sense?
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - I'm just a kid in my 20's, but I read a lot, and boy after I decided I needed to see for myself, what was wrong I what was right, and compare the doctrines to the bible, not to traditions, I have no doubt in my mind that what I believe now is what's on the Bible. Religion killed the christian within me. Jesus gave me joy. And boy, that joy is priceless! It's like, no matter what happens, you know you're not on this planet for no reason. You know you're here to glorify Jesus!
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete 20 ahh the good old days...lol! Reading it and interpreting it are 2 different things. Its good your into it. You I dated this girl, who went to Assemblies of God, NIV, Chruch of God, Methodist, and i went with her. I even went to some of her Sunday schools classes, I am now going threw RCIA, so I can get confirmation. The difference in classes was like her Methodist class was first grade and Catholic felt like I was being taught be NASA.
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... Go on Here You Tube and search for a Mike Cumbie and Tim Staples. These guys were Protestants Preachers. they give good and clear explanations of the differences. Also Patrick Madrid. I lot of times if I hear it rather than read it I better understand. Thats just how I am with somethings
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 - Here's what I said: I don't do good works to be saved, Jesus did it for me. I have confidence in Him.
I do good works because that's how I demonstrate to the world that I'm saved and because I'm grateful to God. That's sanctification. Two completely different things.
That's what I said.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete Jesus dies on the cross open up the door way for us, but that doesn't mean we don't have to do our part. Think of it this way, If all we need is faith and not good works threw faith or lets just say no good works at all. Would it make sense if all people had to do was have faith and believe Lord Jesus Christ is Our Savoir and than go on a killing spree knowing they'll be alright anyway, just because they have Faith? That would sound like something the Devil would want us to believe.
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... look up on you tube, Mike Cumbie or Tim Staples, both these guys were Protestant Preachers and converted over to RCC. very interesting. I acually when on Mike Cumbies site on got some videos. It was a great help even if your Catholic. The biggest problem with people who are not Catholic the have a Miss conception of what Catholics Believe. and your not going to get that from a protestant preacher.
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video... If you dig and start right from the beginning and start your learning there with an OPEN mind, Go back to tradition, the early Fathers writings, You will find yourself at the Catholic Church. This verse always stands out when I see different denominations( 1Cor 1:10 - I urge that there be no divisions among you ) 2 Thess 3:6 - shun those acting not according to tradition and if this helps /thecatholicconvert.webs . com/
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@dirtboy7777 Just so you know, I just apreciate the fact that you did not call me a protestant from satan. Not a single time. lol
Most catholics here have called me all kinds of names... lol
That shows you are a true believer of our Lord Jesus Christ. God bless you.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete your welcome and they shouldn't, Here what I did when getting started, I attacked catholoism all I could, but with an open mind, that's the key. I wanted to not only when or from who these other groups started, but WHY. Luther, Father Luther was not a nice man, King Henry plain out Killed people. and what surprises me is people follow these guys. These were the start of the vast different denominations and it really wasn't that long ago.
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@jgallete - As a catholic you were taught that your works can help God to save you. And you know what? I don't expect us to come to an agreement. lol
People haven't done it in hundreds of years. Why would we?
But about the person being saved, then becoming a serial killer. Come on!!! Really? lol
That person is sick and does not have faith to be saved in the first place. lol
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete really and just where do we Catholics find this absurdity you belch As a catholic you were taught that your works can help God to save you.
martlut 1 month ago
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@dirtboy7777 Answer this. Do you consider yourself a good person? Do you think your works are good enough to get you to heaven? Do you sin?
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete the Demons Believe in God, but there not saved. 1Tim 5:8 he who doesn't provide for family worse than unbeliever.1 Cor 13:2 - faith without love is nothing Phil 2;12 - work out your salvation with fear and trembling as you attain the goal of your faith, salvation Mt 10:22 - he who endures to the end will be saved Mk 8:35 - whoever loses his life for my sake will save it Rom 2:2-8 - eternal life by perseverance in good works Eph 2:8-10 - we are created in Christ Jesus for good works
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
Respond to this video I didn't even give you have of the verse that talk about good works, If your not doing good works to get saved, I recommend you get a reality check. Even when you have to come up before the Church and confess Lord Jesus Christ as your savoir, You have to make that effort and do it! Sounds likes some works to me!! You dont just sit there and the Pastor do it for you, do you?
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
I'm only showing to you why the Bible says it's wrong to build statues with religious purposes. Don't get mad at me, I did not write the Bible.
You can have as many statues of "saints" as you want. That's up to you.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go to church, to play the drums, to worship, to bow down and to venerate only the true God Almighty. He is the joy of my life and He will be forever worthy of my humble praise.
Peace be with you and God bless you all.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete: YEah go and play drums! LOL
The BIBLE DID EXACTLY NOT SAY IT IS WRONG TO BUILD STATUES - because GOD ORDERED TO DO.
He has forbidden to make IDOLS or to follow IDOLS - AN ICON OF CHRIST CAN NEVER BE AN IDOL because CHRIST IS TRUE GOD.
CHRIST IS NOT LIKE A PAGAN GOD - HE IS GOD INCARNATED!
U BLASPHEME AGAINST CHRIST - and everyone who rejects THE ICONS OF CHRIST - IS UNDER ANATHEMA and WILL NOT BE SAVED.
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 - Wow. Now you're deciding who's saved and who isn't. Man you must be like the fourth person of the trinity or something like that. What am I to do so you can "give me back" my salvation? Join your "holy" church of Rome? lol
jgallete 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 - And just so you know, you cannot base any of your actions on the OT. God had a particular way of conducting the people of Israel back then. For example, the israelites had commands to kill homosexuals and disobedient children back then. They also did what we know today by animal violence, which was the way they were forgiven of their sins.
FYI, we're under a new covenant nowadays (1 Cor.11:25). And we do not have to do any of these things from the OT.
jgallete 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 - So.. The OT is for us just a base of faith. We do not have to obey all the commands from God given to the Isrelites, only the ones reaffirmed on the NT.
jgallete 2 months ago
It is funny. I've never seen people at the end of the OT or on the NT bowing down or praying to statues of great men of God from the past who were dead. For example: saint Abraham, St Isaac, St Moses, St Jacob. I've also never seen such thing happening in the New Testament. People did pray to the only worthy of all prayers: the God Almighty. That's why I do the same.
I do love and honor the heroes from the bible, I wanna be the 1st one to hug Mary when she resurrects from the dead.
jgallete 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 It is funny. I've never seen people at the end of the OT or on the NT bowing down or praying to statues of great men of God from the past who were dead. For example: saint Abraham, St Isaac, St Jacob. I've also never seen such thing happening in the New Testament. People did pray to the only worthy of all prayers: the God Almighty. That's why I do the same.
I do love and honor the heroes from the bible, I wanna be the 1st one to hug Mary when she resurrects from the dead.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete Just for the record I haven't gave a Statue not 1 dollar, No golden calf here.Good luck with your drums.
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
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You can keep doing it. Go ahead, bow down before whatever and whoever you want. Everyone has their own life to take care of.
But, please, don't tell me the Bible it's ok with it, because if you're willing to put your pride aside and pray to God directly. I'm sure (I guarantee) that He will show you in your heart that it's a sin.
God bless you.
jgallete 2 months ago
We all should be guided ONLY by the bible. Of course there should be no private interpretation of the bible, but there shouldn't be just one wrong interpretation from a church headquarters in Vatican.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete: GUIDED BY THE BIBLE!
St. PETER: FIRST OF ALL - NO PRIVATED INTERPRETATION of the SCRIPTURES.
Why do u think there are THOUSENS OF PROTESTANTS HERETIC SECTS one condemming the other? Baptists, Mormons, Witnessers of Jehova, Adventists, Calvinists, Lutherans, etc..
Becaue THEY ALL FOLLOW THEMSELVES and not the Word of BIBLE. Also Satan has used the Word of the Bible to tempt CHRIST. So the Bible alone will not save u. Because u need the correct interpretation.
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 Of course the bible alone won't save me. Only faith in Jesus alone will save me.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete. REALLY - and where do u know that u follow the right FAITH IN CHRIST?
As u can see there are many different FAITHS IN CHRIST? The Bible alone will not save u because it is hard to understand sometimes. AND WE NEED THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION.
Most american Sect leaders to not even know the basics of EXEGETIC: They do not even know hebrew or old greek.
How can they dare to think they can interprete the Scriptures? They are blinded by Demons
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 - Stop with the demons talk, you might not even know what demons are. THERE IS POWER IN THE BLOOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete: SO U SEE:
Not to make IMAGES here means: MEANS NOT TO SERVE OTHER GODS - OR STRANGE GODS. Because there are NO OTHER GODS beside the TRUE GOD.
That is why God said HE WOULD BE JEALOUS!
GOD ORDERED TO MAKE STATUES AND IMAGES !
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@jgallete: GOD ORDERED TO MAKE STATUES:
18 You shall make also two cherubims of beaten gold, on the two sides of the oracle.
19 Let one cherub be on the one side, and the other on the other.
20 Let them cover both sides of the propitiatory, spreading their wings, and covering the oracle, and let them look one towards the other, their faces being turned towards the propitiatory wherewith the ark is to be covered.
WOW - does GOD contradict himself?
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 - 'WOW - does GOD contradict himself?'
Nope. He has the authority to ask them personally to build whatever He wanted. DID HE ASKED THEM TO BOW BEFORE THE CHERUBIMS AND THEIR WINGS? I don't think so.
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete: LOL - first u did say GOD has forbidden EVERY KIND OF IMAGE. Now u say: He can order what HE wants - but those Images were not honored!
The Israelits honored those Images and Statues BECAUSE BETWEEN THE CHERUBIM GOD APPEARED in HIS GLORY.
Yes - THEY EVEN BOWED down. Before Angels, before Prophets etc.. They kissed the Temple, the Arc with the Commandments of God, they even bowed to the Temple - the house of God.
Also in the New Testament people bowed down to the Apostles!
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@jgallete Man Adamantis 4657 I thought you were hard headed this guy tops you..lol!
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
@adamantis4657 - Where do I know that I follow the right faith in Jesus? In the Bible. Where else could I know?
Salvation does not come through the Catholic church. This church of Rome didn't die for me. lol
jgallete 2 months ago
@jgallete: THE TEMPLE OF GOD FULL OF IMAGES AND STATUES:
23 And he made in the oracle two cherubims of olive tree, of ten cubits in height.
24 One wing of the cherub was five cubits, and the other wing of the cherub was five cubits: that is, in all ten cubits, from the extremity of one wing to the extremity of the other wing.
25 The second cherub also was ten cubits: and the measure, and the work was the same in both the cherubims:
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@jgallete: TEMPLE FULL OF IMAGES:
28 And he overlaid the cherubims with gold.
29 And all the walls of the temple round about he carved with divers figures and carvings: and he made in them cherubims and palm trees, and divers representations, as it were standing out, and coming forth from the wall.
WOW - even with GOLD. WALL FULL OF IMAGES! u won't more? Because the Bible is full of IMAGES
adamantis4657 2 months ago
@jgallete: U FOLLOW CHRIST?
How can this be? When u do not even know what CHRIST said? Or did? How can u follow CHRIST ALONE: NO ONE IS SAED ALONE.
How can u be saved, when u follow yourself? NO PRIVATE INTERPRETAION - but that is exactly what u do.
adamantis4657 2 months ago