Particle Physics in Quran?

[durian111]

it funny like all of them want to be scientific genius, but then again they not even a scientist (lol of cuz to retard youtuber)

@Heni17zTazyt2z it cuz you stole all the muslim book, what are you dumb enuff for me to tell.

[djay00009]

particle physics ?? ahem , ahem , how many things can you put in one small book huh ? -_- Its literally impossible now

[Heni17zTazyt2z]

You are wrong my friend. Abdus Salam was a member of the Ahmadiyya Community, who have been prosecuted as Kaffirs. In 1974, the Pakistani Parliament made a constitutional amendment that declared Ahmadi Muslims as 'non-Muslims'. In protest, Salam left Pakistan for London. This “Kaffir” man was the greatest and, possibly the only scientific genius that Muslims have produced

over the past 400-500yrs.

[cniru]

So now the Muslims will claim Babylonians, Greeks, Indians and Chinese are all Islamic ... hehe !

[cniru]

Geometry and Algebraic treatises written by Muslims are mostly translations of Chinese, Indian and Greek works pre-dating Islam by a thousand to a couple of hundred years. Everyone knows Zero was a Hindu concept, as are all the 10 base number system. Algebra as it was known to Muslims was translation of Indo-Chinese methods, and while the name algebra may have come from Arabic, the original treatises were written by people like Diophantine (Greeks). Even the Babylonians had their methods.

[cniru]

If all were known to the Muslims, then why didn't they invent nuclear reactors, jet engines, computers, etc. etc. Why do the Arab Muslim bozos rely on others for everything ... even extracting the oil beneath their own grounds ? Even today the only things that Arabs export are Oil, Dates and intolerant and murderous ideologies. That too the first one because the Western Oil Companies give the enabling technology to do so. Complete and utter nonsense to make themselves look good.

[cniru]

Complete bullshit. The most the some of the Muslims may have done was to have translated Chinese, Greco-Roman and Indian treatises on mathematics and natural sciences. I would give them that due. Beyond this, all of this video is total hogwash.

Humans have known about opposites and duality in nature for thousands of years before the Quran. Hot/Cold, Light/Dark, Dry/Wet, all were known to men before the Quran. Just another asinine attempt to make the Quran look great, when it is all gibberish.

[Heni17zTazyt2z]

If you want to know about Particle Physics, you must get it from the real experts, who created the world of Quantum Physics,-people like Albert Einstein, Erwin Schrödinger, Werner Heisenberg, Wolfgang Pauli, Richard Feynman, ect, Majority of them are, Jewish, Christian or Atheist,and not a single one of them a Muslim. Person of the calibre of Albert Einstein, could easily pull both Allah & Mr. Mohamed by the ears, and teach them a thing or two about science.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

@Heni17zTazyt2z

as u see the question mark in the title (?) this video is just interesting but no proof or evidence at all,plus i respect all those scientists who discover the details in nature and physics,my question is this,do you also respect the intelligence who is behind all this complexity and consciousness?

cheers

[weseyedwalk]

@HighFlyingDutchman I respect the the creator of all that is, I just think that the Qur'an was inspired by his enemy in order to fool us to follow him over God. God's enemy knows of these things also, I'm sure he knows many things we do not understand. You must at lest consider this to be a possibility. The enemy of God has created many decoys to God's word in order to derail God's message from reaching our hearts. This is why the Qur'an specifically attacks the bible.

[drrobertoboogie97]

@Heni17zTazyt2z Actually Abdul Salam was a Muslim, but most of them were atheists.

[BarbedHook]

This data is in the Old Testament also cell death among numerous scientific discoveries still to surface

[4ndiland]

i love how we continue to discover amazing things in the quran, a living quran that contains yet so many mysteries.

[crunkjizzle]

what a load, lol

[padremo]

Funny how these 'revelations' only come to light after the actual facts are discovered by scientists.

[AALSHERRI]

No. Some facts were known long time ago. Examples: (1) Ibn Hazm a muslim scholar claimed that the earth must have a sphere like shape based on one of the verses in the Quran.

(2) Allah mentioned in the Quran that the universe will contract one day and ends into a situation similar to the same state before expansion. Most scientists nowadays believe that the universe will expand forever.

[AALSHERRI]

(3) Allah mentioned in the Quran that He created intelligent creatures from Fire. They are called the Jinn. Scientests with their very limited knowledge still know nothing about the Jinn.

[C0ldking]

WoW! What really buggers me is why the majority of Scientific Discoverys is NOT from the Countrys with the majority being Muslim, is it just that and the Muslims have had the answers, but are juts dense? or is this not really Scientific Work, and just mere Holy Scripture that might on a Sunnyday sound like somehow a bit Scientific?

Its revealed in Quran, but its followers didnt get it... just smells so much of a Fail God... I am sorry to offend you, but serrious!

[BismAllah99]

as a muslim im not completely happy with this video to the point ware i don't think a muslim did this.

its way under researched and only focuses on this mater antimatter thing when the verse covers more than just physics, it refers to biology more than physics.

[weststainesmassiv79]

Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn Abbâs

(Glory be to Him) Allah exonerates Himself (Who created all the sexual pairs) of all kinds, (of that which the earth groweth) the sweet, the sour and other things, (and of themselves) the male and female, (and of that which they know not) of other different kinds in the land and sea!

that sura talks a bout animals created in pairs. not quantum physics

[kurtilein3]

there are many species that only have one gender.

if the quran says that EVERY species comes in pairs, then the quran is wrong.

i agree that this is about animals, not about particle physics. there are particles that do not have a supersymmetric partner, those are the force particles, the most well-known of those would be the photon. so there are animals that do not have two genders, and there are particles that do not have a supersymmetric partner. doesnt look good for that sura.

[easyonetwothree]

Wikipedia: "Photon":

"According to quantum chromodynamics, a real photon can interact both as a point-like particle, or as a collection of quarks and gluons, i.e., like a hadron. The structure of the photon is determined not by the traditional valence quark distributions as in a proton, but by fluctuations of the point-like photon into a collection of partons"

I see many Pairs.. You say there is no pairs... :S?

[kurtilein3]

argument from ignorance again.

1 particle having 2 properties is NOT a pair of two different particles. you dont care about the facts, you want to make the facts fit your deluisions because your religious delusions are more important than facts for you.

an example: a car that can also be used as a boat is ONE object. its not equal to one normal car and one normal boat. no pair. its ONE thing that can drive and swim.

the same is true for the photon, why do you misinterpret this?

[easyonetwothree]

"or as a collection of quarks and gluons"

Looks like pairs to me... Anyway, can you tell me, what is a pathon?

[kurtilein3]

easyone:

the photon is the electromagnetic force particle. it comes into existence when an electron drops from a higher energetic state to a lower one. the rest-mass of the photon is zero, meaning that it has to travel at the speed of light and can be considered pure energy. it can cease to exist by getting absorbed, transferring this energy into a different form. the amont of energy one photon carries depends on its wavelength: shorter wavelength means higher energy.

[kurtilein3]

... all of the following consists of photons: light, heat radiation, x-rays, magnetic fields, radio signals.

the photon does not have any partnership with another particle, there is no anti-photon or anything like that. it does not come in pairs. it cannot be seperated into a wave and a particle or anything like that, its always both, thats why i used the swimming car example. the quran says NOTHING about photons.

[easyonetwothree]

No I know, the Qur'an says nothing about photons, its not a science book, nobody said its a science book, the Qur'an is a guidance book, but, the photon is not the only particle in the world, thus the other paticles are partners with photon, it doesnt matter if there isnt any anti photon, it has PArtners!

[kurtilein3]

easyone:

the other particles are not partner with the photon, this ius compülete nonsense.

i mean, use your brain, are you really this stupid? if i tell you that person X is currently not married, then you say that this means that person X is married to every other person on the planet? this is STUPID. this is what islam does to people: it destroys the ability to udnerstand basic logic. you throw your rationality out of the window just to make something TRUE that is just PLAIN WRONG.

[easyonetwothree]

Who is talking abour marriage??? This creation called Photon, is simillar to another creation, otherwise it would not be included with other particles, it would have another name as a definition lol!!!!

Photon = Particle

Something else = Particle

= Pairs!!

[kurtilein3]

easyo:

okay, you really are an idiot. creation has nothing to do with it. particles are NOT created in pairs.

so if your stupid holy book says that allah created particles in pairs, then YOUR BOOK IS WRONG. there is no creation, matter and energy CANNOT BE CREATED OR DESTROYED, can only be transferred from one kind into another. you cannot make modern physics fit with all the nonsense that you have in your head because of your religioon, there ARE CONTRADICTIONS. please grow a brain.

[easyonetwothree]

Ok, thanks for the insult, a loser turns to insults :)! I didnt say they are created in pairs, I said that they are pairs because they are the same definition, otherwise they would never be called the same! Me and my cat are not the same, we are not related, but we are a pair because she is an animal and Im a human (Animal / Human = Pair)

[easyonetwothree]

A photon is not alone in being a particle,,,, hence it is a pair!

You and a pig are not related, but it is an animal and you are a human, thus you 2 make a perfect pair ;)

[kurtilein3]

you are a moron, and a photon is not a pair.

try to read some really scientific educational stuff, or stay stupid. education works. the knowledge is out there. if you WANT TO, you can start educating yourself right away. articls about science tend to be quite good on wikipedia, and they link to many more websites and sources and material.

and soom you might realize that being stupid actually isnt cool, and that knowledge empowers you to make better decisions.

[easyonetwothree]

Ok so Photon isnt a particle?

If its a particle, then its a pair with the other Particles, you seem to think that Im talking about Anti-Phoron which I know doesnt exist, Im saying that PHOTON HAS PARTNERS, if there are other particles, then those are its pairs!

[easyonetwothree]

All particles are pairs

The sun has a pair, guess which? THE MOON, yet it has nothing to do with it, same with photon!

[kurtilein3]

easyone:

lol, you are still trying to redefine the meaning of the word "pair".

you will not succeed. the definition of the word "pair" will stay the same, and your statement will stay WRONG. please look up what "pair" actually means, and how this word is used correctly.

[easyonetwothree]

Ok, so it is the only particle in the universe? if not, then there are other particles right? arent these particles Photons pair? Same withg Oceans and land, Heaven and earth, Male and Female, Sun/moon, Human/Animal, short/long, Happy/sad, dirt/Cleanliness, Cat/dogg....All of these are PAIRS, Photon is not the only particle!

[weststainesmassiv79]

Tafsir al-Jalalayn

Glory be to Him Who created all the pairs, the specimens, of what the earth produces, of seeds and other things, and of themselves, of males and females, and of what they do not know, of marvellous and strange creatures.

that sura talks about how LIFE on earth was created in pairs. not quantum physics.

[furqanajaz]

assalamalaikum warahmatulahi wabarakatuhu brother, jazakAllah khairun for the vid

[kurtilein3]

this is complete nonsense.

if this is supposed to be true, then why where the muslims to stupid to get this information out of the quran and to know about those particles 1000 years ago?

instead, muslims were ignorant about this, until western scientists discovered it. now the muslims find out that they have been stupid all along, and it has been in the quran, they were just too stupid to understand it, or their god was too stupid and writing his book. not very convincing.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

as the info states,it just may be stating at this

remember,Quran must be understandable for all mankind for more than 14 centuries

lets assume Quran spoke about more details in a more clean way,it would sound nonsense for people until today and people like you would laugh at Quran and deny it

just think about quantum physics

how many people can really grasp it?

and now imagine it was stated with great details in Quran

would people in past believe such thing?

peace

[kurtilein3]

you cannot learn anything about quantum physics and particle physics from the quran.

the qura-statement that is being used in this video is even wrong: some particles do NOT have symmetric partners. one example would be the photon. so if you follow the quran when it comes to particle physics, you need to deny the existence of the photon.

[sssfusa]

Coming from a 25 year old,that thinks he's PERFECT,makes alot of sense,go back inhistory and read before you open your perfect mouth,and say perfect rubish that makes you look even more perfect.You are wrong!lol not it

[kurtilein3]

so, you didnt research it. you did not check if i am correct or not. you just claim that just because i am a 25-year old that STUDIES PHYSICS at a major university that educated several NOBEL LAUREATES in physics, you know more than i do, without even using the internet to research this.

you are pathetic. you could at least have googled the word ``photon´´ and look at the results for a few minutes. you display intellectual dishonesty at its best.

[IlCasucci]

@HighFlyingDutchman You raise a simple and logical point!

[silveren777]

@HighFlyingDutchman

maybe, maybe not. But by definition, if the relevant verse isn't clear in such way ancient people could understand it, then it has 0 predicte power, so it's useless to prove anything miraculous from it.

Moreover, after the fact, it's very easy to come up with the justifications you made; alas they are just like the following ones: "my prophecies are vague otherwise people could attempt to prevent their fullfilmment and my prophecies would be false".

[sssfusa]

The Arabs have advanced drastically and founded a civilisation that is the root of what we have now!All started when the Quran arrived!Your ancestors thought the watch was a devil,and they used the "Pillow" under their feet!The arabs did not make fun of them! But documented it for us!

[kurtilein3]

sssfusa: you are wrong.

all the knowledge in the quran was either known before the quran was written, or muslims just pick and choose from modern science and try to make it fit the quran. the arrival of the quran did not expand our knowledge in any way.

particle physics started when people like rutherford and lederman arrived, not earlier. and muslims had nothing to do with it. if this video is NOT pure bullshit, shouldnt have muslims that know the quran made those discoveries?

[sssfusa]

Just tell me,where was it documented that everyone knew the mountains moved/shifted?

If you think it didn't change anything,denying the role of arabs introducing science to europe in the dark ages,then you should open your mouth about any historic events,or general claims that is not your own words.

YOu don't make no sense,my turn:you are wrong!

[kurtilein3]

the arabs advanced mathematics a little bit, until islam radicalized and the necessary liberty to do research was gone. since that time, muslim countries are like a desert when it comes to scientific progress and scientific education. who landed on the moon? who invented the internet? who discovered and described plate tectonics (moving mountains)? who discoverd antibiotics?

open your eyes, islam and science are diametrically opposed.

[sssfusa]

It took 700 years to only advance"a little" in mathimatics? Are you kidding?Or just ignorant?I'm serious I can not tell.

"who discovered and described plate tectonics (moving mountains)? "

Obviously the Quran did 1400 years ago!What's your point?Are you arguing?I don't see any intellictual ideas or suggestions.

Islam does not oppose science ignorant,the first word was "READ",the main source of beleiving is your "MIND",our book was not a "secret" or hidden!Follow?

[kurtilein3]

``"who discovered and described plate tectonics (moving mountains)? "

Obviously the Quran did 1400 years ago!What's your point?´´

my point is that you are mistaken. why didnt you use the internet to find something about plate tectonics, read it, and comment afterwards? so you do not want to know about plate tectonics?

you clearly WANT to stay ignorant, in this case, you are wasting my time. maybe the concept of a lifestyle that consists of working, LEARNING, and sleeping, is alien to you.

[sssfusa]

"until islam radicalized and the necessary liberty to do research was gone."

LOL

You are a perfect moron,a perfect product of the new distorted media.Perfection in the flesh.Please save me the energy to view what your perfect mind has to piss.

[kurtilein3]

again, you are not even trying to research anything. if you take a very, very close look at modern mathematics, you will see that the muslim contributions to this pure science are quite small. not only in comparison to modern mathematics, but also compared to pythagoras, a greek mathematician who lived about 2500 years ago. do you know a² + b² = c² ? its the pytharogean theorem for right triangles. 2500 years old. now, please, come up with something similar from muslim mathematics.

[IlCasucci]

@kurtilein3 The only stupid here is your assumptions. You clearly assume that they didn't know what the verse meant - reality says, Muslims did know what it meant, but didn't find necessary to scientifically prove it! Muslims already have a clear answer why the world exists and are more than content with the answers they have, unlike non-believers in God, trying to prove to them selves that he exists, they Know and believe God exists, therefore, the verse about sub-particles ... CONTINUED ABOVE

[IlCasucci]

@kurtilein3 the verse about the existence of sub-particles wasn't as big of a deal to Muslims as it iss to scientists today. They did n't need the information to prove God exists, they had the answer to the question many particle physicist are trying to answer!!! Reality says, Muslims knew more about the world than any others during their times. Looking at the history of Muslim civilizations, they brought medicine, they invented Algebra (zero), and more, due to their knowledge of the Quran. FYI