Okay, you and I think in a completely different way [because you hate Annete, and I'm trying to support her], but I must say that you're right: I didn't have any taste at all with what I said and my apologies for that. But, even though I think you're going to attack me again, you said that what I said was bullshit too, so it's a contradiciton, right?
And I keep on wondering: do you have any facts to support what you're saying?
Yep... You're actually right, and I'm still sorry... Well, without the voice [I mean, if you just listen to the music], I'd still consider them metal, maybe not melodic metal, but a different kind... Something like power metal.
haha, thats even a stupid argument! i'd say they are gothic symphonic metal, if we're being specific, but ImaginaryVoncroy is totally right, the voice doesnt make the genre - not to mention an operatic voice which isnt metal at all!!!
Oh goodness... I'm hoping it's the bad quality of audio on this thing that makes her sound so horrendous (spelling sucks, I know) in this... Was there anyone in that show that can say it didn't sound so painful with good quality?
She sounds really bad in all the YouTube videos I've seen. I almost didn't go see them because I thought she was going to suck but she was really really good and now I like her.
Seriously - she doesn't suck. Maybe on Wishmaster, but everything else is really good.
Her overall performance was really good. She has good stage presence and seems really warm. I went to the show expecting to hate her and by the end of the show I wanted to give her a hug.
It can't be easy to have to endure so many people comparing her to Tarja and calling her a hack all the time.
If you have the opportunity to go see them live, you really should. They were great.
I don't have a speicific problem with Anette, I think she's a sweet girl & yeah, from what I've seen she has a great stage presence. I just don't like her voice. At all. & if I don't like it on their album, where all her mistakes are covered up, no chance I'd like her live. It's not because she has huge shoes to fill in, it's just that I don't like her voice & I wish she wouldn't be so ambitious in her live shows & try to do "voice tricks" that she clearly can't do...
Out of all the old songs they are performing now, Anette is especially bad in this one and in Wishmaster. Plus the songs are changed. They sound so different now.
I think they sound different now, not because they changed the style of the songs much, but because they stayed the same. Once Tarja took those songs & gave them an edge & a uniqueness. Anette doesn't have that edge because her voice is quite "sweet", & so NW should have made their music a bit rougher...
so,hellskinky,you're basically telling everyone to shut up and meekly accept the fact that the band made a terrible mistake.i beg to differ.let ppl talk about whatever they want to,who cares if you don't like it?there's more of them...
4-Stop wasting your time commenting here if you don't like Anette. Go comment on Tarja's stuff
5-You really all act like babies...try and conduct yourself as true fans.If you don't like what they have done,fine it's your opinion but don't insult someone for no reasons...especially if you haven't seen them live yet.
I don't know about Planet Hell & Bless the Child, but I think that if she could hardly tackle this song (Slaying the Dreamer), there's no way in hell her vocal range will be large enough to sing Kinslayer... It's quite a difficult song in that sense, & you need quite a vocal range.
LadySyriana: and we probably see the things more clear than you, most of the times, because we don't leave ourselves guided by the prejudice that "Tarja songs" MUST be sung by Tarja.
If you don't like Nightwish with Anette, don't listen. I've seen a lot of video's with Anette on You Tube, and I must say she did a great job. Her performance is good her voice is good, some older songs makes she better
(wishmaster, slaying the dreamer), Tarja is history, and Nightwish with Anette is the beginning of a new era
Actually, I don't think that "Tuomas is a God", but I do know that he composed almost all of their songs and he is a kind of a "leader" for Nightwish, so I think he is the one who makes major decisions in the group. And by the way... I don't like the last major decision he took, but I don't think I'm the one who has to call him to account...
Yes I know you dont think that hehe that`s why I put "Like you..." yes but he has a band and a band is composed for many members. To make a great leader you need to share all the decisions. I also didnt like the last decision he made.... for me is a huge mistake to choose Anette.
You really should wait to see them live before you decide you don't like Anette. I really didn't like her until I saw them, and now I do. She's not Tarja, but if you think about it, if they chose someone with a voice that's similar to Tarja's, it would be even worse and people would compare the new singer unfavorably as well.
Go see them live. Anette is good and has a warmth about her that's really appealing.
Sorry for my missinterpretation. Anyway, I'm glad we agreed... :P
Oh, I feel I have to specify that I don't like Anette not because she doesn't have a voice (she has a... nice voice) but because she isn't suitable for Nightwish. If they came to Romania, I wouldn't go see them.
Not realy true, since Tarja was already an excelling student in the conservatory they both studied in & would've toured with that conservatory if not with Nightwish.
Not irrelevant?? Hehehehe well,. nobody wanted a "Tarja clone" that in my opinion, not all the sopranos in the world are a Tarja`s clone. But this old woman, dyed her hair, and now dress more "gothic" well, she suppose to has her own style, althought she is not pretty only good makeup, why trying to chande all that and just be her?
I think they really should avoid all the old songs, her voice doesn`t fit in them. Specially all those hedious screams. She should sing more soft songs like Eva, and all the new album. If Tuomas wanted a new era, he really should started again, with new name, new album and that`s it.
Lol....I was there...does anyone know remember when Annette asked us if we had enough room to move around and said to make a "small movement"...lol (the horns)
Woah!! I'm surprised to see this song!! :)
Nightowljrm 3 years ago
She has IMMENSE trouble with this song at certain parts......but I still like it. YAY ANETTE. Just don't attempt the high notes!!!!!!!!!
xxxthoughtlessxxx 3 years ago
Dammit! You cut out the best part of the song!!!!
OceanbornAngel 4 years ago
Sorry... I had a hard time filming shit because people kept knocking into me.
HandsomeWhiteDog 4 years ago
hahahaha when Marco sings, he covers her voice hahaha
''Don't lead me astreieieoououou'' hahahaha
Sorry but I can't stop laughing.
sahara0587 4 years ago 3
to be fair, i think thats the poor quality of the video, not anettes voice... ??
punkchik69 4 years ago
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FOR THE SAKE OF THE REVENGE, don't dance annete!!!!!!!
gradiuz 4 years ago
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sHe Is hOt...buT ShE`S killing all the olds songs of N.W...
xxxNEUTRONxxx 4 years ago
anette acts like an idiot - that's what she really is.
and i really hate the way she "sings" - it's horrible.
nstzj666 4 years ago
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hahah somebody said it's a poor comment.
i really don't care - it's my own opinion and it's totally true if you ask myself.
stupid people are destroying metal scene. x)
nstzj666 4 years ago
That's the truth or your opinion? Because, apparently, what you said differs from other people's thoughts on the subject...
Do you have REAL facts [besides your "stupid people are destroying metal scene"] to support the whole bullshit you're saying?
999tibberone666 4 years ago
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if you had a taste and if you knew only what i'm taking about you would not say it's a bullshit what i'm saying.
i wonder what's your problem that you stuck up your nose.
actually, it would be also very good if you wouldn't say anything.
i think the bullshit is what you're taking about.
nstzj666 4 years ago
Okay, you and I think in a completely different way [because you hate Annete, and I'm trying to support her], but I must say that you're right: I didn't have any taste at all with what I said and my apologies for that. But, even though I think you're going to attack me again, you said that what I said was bullshit too, so it's a contradiciton, right?
And I keep on wondering: do you have any facts to support what you're saying?
999tibberone666 4 years ago
alright. my opinion is that anette doesn't sing well. and i think nightwish with anette is not metal anymore. so that was meant like:
those who like anette and think nightwish is still a metal band are destroying metal scene.
i hope it's what you wanted to know.
i understand you have a different taste but i think you attacked me first x)
nstzj666 4 years ago
Yep... You're actually right, and I'm still sorry... Well, without the voice [I mean, if you just listen to the music], I'd still consider them metal, maybe not melodic metal, but a different kind... Something like power metal.
999tibberone666 4 years ago
well i would say they are symphonic power metal or something like that xD
nstzj666 4 years ago
Since when they were metal because of Tarja's voice? -.-' What a nonsense.
ImaginaryVoncroy 4 years ago 10
haha, thats even a stupid argument! i'd say they are gothic symphonic metal, if we're being specific, but ImaginaryVoncroy is totally right, the voice doesnt make the genre - not to mention an operatic voice which isnt metal at all!!!
punkchik69 4 years ago 3
omfg, i think i just had a mental orgasm from the ammount of common sense in your comment.
YulieAna 3 years ago
Oh my god she didn't
portishphonic 4 years ago
lol.. xD boha Anette .. moj zlataa.. Teba robili Narychlo asi ze ?!
Adiee666 4 years ago
Haha, everybody clap your hands!
thephantomsstar 4 years ago
Oh goodness... I'm hoping it's the bad quality of audio on this thing that makes her sound so horrendous (spelling sucks, I know) in this... Was there anyone in that show that can say it didn't sound so painful with good quality?
00Rotem00 4 years ago
She sounds really bad in all the YouTube videos I've seen. I almost didn't go see them because I thought she was going to suck but she was really really good and now I like her.
Seriously - she doesn't suck. Maybe on Wishmaster, but everything else is really good.
TruculentBones 4 years ago
Even on this? I thought she killed the end... I mean, if you can't do a voice triller, esspecialy a long one, don't bother doing one at all.
00Rotem00 4 years ago
Her overall performance was really good. She has good stage presence and seems really warm. I went to the show expecting to hate her and by the end of the show I wanted to give her a hug.
It can't be easy to have to endure so many people comparing her to Tarja and calling her a hack all the time.
If you have the opportunity to go see them live, you really should. They were great.
TruculentBones 4 years ago
I don't have a speicific problem with Anette, I think she's a sweet girl & yeah, from what I've seen she has a great stage presence. I just don't like her voice. At all. & if I don't like it on their album, where all her mistakes are covered up, no chance I'd like her live. It's not because she has huge shoes to fill in, it's just that I don't like her voice & I wish she wouldn't be so ambitious in her live shows & try to do "voice tricks" that she clearly can't do...
00Rotem00 4 years ago
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
javideaths 4 years ago
Out of all the old songs they are performing now, Anette is especially bad in this one and in Wishmaster. Plus the songs are changed. They sound so different now.
StarOfGhost 4 years ago 5
I think they sound different now, not because they changed the style of the songs much, but because they stayed the same. Once Tarja took those songs & gave them an edge & a uniqueness. Anette doesn't have that edge because her voice is quite "sweet", & so NW should have made their music a bit rougher...
00Rotem00 4 years ago
she is hot in this video
Stargazer05 4 years ago
she's terrible!!!!!!she cannot sing tarja's songs...she should sing better her songs too...amaranth is terrible in live!!!!!
catnekylibi 4 years ago
so,hellskinky,you're basically telling everyone to shut up and meekly accept the fact that the band made a terrible mistake.i beg to differ.let ppl talk about whatever they want to,who cares if you don't like it?there's more of them...
~t
tkny23 4 years ago 2
No, he's saying to stop insulting Anette, and anyone who dares support her, because you want your old singer back.
theforc 4 years ago
1-They are excellent
2-Her clothes have nothing to do with music
3-The entire band made the decision
4-Stop wasting your time commenting here if you don't like Anette. Go comment on Tarja's stuff
5-You really all act like babies...try and conduct yourself as true fans.If you don't like what they have done,fine it's your opinion but don't insult someone for no reasons...especially if you haven't seen them live yet.
Hellskinky 4 years ago 2
Touche.
TruculentBones 4 years ago
c'mon she cant sing this AMAZING song
endairagoth 4 years ago 3
does anyone know if anette is ever gonna sing bless the child/kinslayer/planet hell?
damslam 4 years ago
I don't know about Planet Hell & Bless the Child, but I think that if she could hardly tackle this song (Slaying the Dreamer), there's no way in hell her vocal range will be large enough to sing Kinslayer... It's quite a difficult song in that sense, & you need quite a vocal range.
00Rotem00 4 years ago 2
this song is bloody good....
Aleien 4 years ago
Begining of a new era yet there doing all the old songs ...
davenportjd 4 years ago
Just because they have a new singer doesn't mean they can't play the old songs.
If they did, all these concerts would just be live versions of Dark Passion Play.
om3gaxo 4 years ago 3
wat do u all want from her ? she doesnt have tarja's voice ;]
i think this is gr8
luki9875 4 years ago
They were in NYC? I can't believe I missed them =(
PhoneJack 4 years ago
I can't believe you didn't know the tour dates 6 months ago.
tlazaroff 4 years ago
I just started listening to them a couple weeks ago.
PhoneJack 4 years ago
Ahh. They're good, aren't they?
tlazaroff 4 years ago
LadySyriana: and we probably see the things more clear than you, most of the times, because we don't leave ourselves guided by the prejudice that "Tarja songs" MUST be sung by Tarja.
WhatIOnceWas 4 years ago
If you don't like Nightwish with Anette, don't listen. I've seen a lot of video's with Anette on You Tube, and I must say she did a great job. Her performance is good her voice is good, some older songs makes she better
(wishmaster, slaying the dreamer), Tarja is history, and Nightwish with Anette is the beginning of a new era
Darkmaster250 4 years ago 3
ok. I love Anette. But don't play this song at the concert i go to, nightwish. i deeply hate it with her. it's not good for her to sing.
commentmakeryeah 4 years ago
LadySyriana, you are so much right... I agree with everything that you wrote.
And Tuomas, please, please stop performing the old songs. You created something so beatiful and powerfull, don't spoil them...
KiraKiralina1 4 years ago
Probably I see the things more clear like you, because Im not blinded by the thought of: "Tuomas is a God, he does everything alright"
LadySyriana 4 years ago
Actually, I don't think that "Tuomas is a God", but I do know that he composed almost all of their songs and he is a kind of a "leader" for Nightwish, so I think he is the one who makes major decisions in the group. And by the way... I don't like the last major decision he took, but I don't think I'm the one who has to call him to account...
KiraKiralina1 4 years ago
Yes I know you dont think that hehe that`s why I put "Like you..." yes but he has a band and a band is composed for many members. To make a great leader you need to share all the decisions. I also didnt like the last decision he made.... for me is a huge mistake to choose Anette.
LadySyriana 4 years ago
You really should wait to see them live before you decide you don't like Anette. I really didn't like her until I saw them, and now I do. She's not Tarja, but if you think about it, if they chose someone with a voice that's similar to Tarja's, it would be even worse and people would compare the new singer unfavorably as well.
Go see them live. Anette is good and has a warmth about her that's really appealing.
TruculentBones 4 years ago
Sorry for my missinterpretation. Anyway, I'm glad we agreed... :P
Oh, I feel I have to specify that I don't like Anette not because she doesn't have a voice (she has a... nice voice) but because she isn't suitable for Nightwish. If they came to Romania, I wouldn't go see them.
KiraKiralina1 4 years ago
without tuomas,tarja wouldn't have sang ANYTHING ! so i think it's time to thank him
DarkestWorld 4 years ago 2
Not realy true, since Tarja was already an excelling student in the conservatory they both studied in & would've toured with that conservatory if not with Nightwish.
00Rotem00 4 years ago
I'm really glad you got his little intro...
VSant8 4 years ago
I think this suits better for Anette than for Tarja.
Reppis4eva 4 years ago
And that outfit reminds me a little of Tarja`s outfit in the last years,... coincidence??
I really don`t think so.
LadySyriana 4 years ago 2
Call me stupid but i don't see much of a resemblance...
wolfo714 4 years ago
either do I.... two diferent styles...
creidhe 4 years ago
what's your point? The clothes are irrelvant..
darksideofthemoon28 4 years ago
Not irrelevant?? Hehehehe well,. nobody wanted a "Tarja clone" that in my opinion, not all the sopranos in the world are a Tarja`s clone. But this old woman, dyed her hair, and now dress more "gothic" well, she suppose to has her own style, althought she is not pretty only good makeup, why trying to chande all that and just be her?
LadySyriana 4 years ago
Anette seems to be pretty diverse in her outfits than Tarja seemed to be... so she isn't trying to be Tarja..
darksideofthemoon28 4 years ago
I think they really should avoid all the old songs, her voice doesn`t fit in them. Specially all those hedious screams. She should sing more soft songs like Eva, and all the new album. If Tuomas wanted a new era, he really should started again, with new name, new album and that`s it.
LadySyriana 4 years ago
Hey... why can't I ever view this video? It just endlessly loads. Other videos load right up for me, except this one.
TarjaObsession 4 years ago
Um... because it's extra awesome?
HandsomeWhiteDog 4 years ago 2
Lol....I was there...does anyone know remember when Annette asked us if we had enough room to move around and said to make a "small movement"...lol (the horns)
Erbabe91 4 years ago 2
Bad quality.
*-)
kSp3kSp3 4 years ago
Gimme a break with the "bad quality" comments already. Christ.
TruculentBones 4 years ago