The conductor was too restrained. I had the impression she was doing hardly anything more than keeping time, occasionally waving her left hand to do what a powerful left hand is supposed to do. A fortissimo is not only the orchestra's. It is also the conductor's, and the impression that this gives. That is what differentiates listening to a recording and watching a live performance.
I learned to play this in 1978 when I was 16 and although now it's been over 30 years since I've played it, my fingers still 'remember' and I don't *think* about it at all--except where to begin playing. Once my hands begin doing those runs, it's beyond my understanding how I can still play parts of the song. Granted, I have forgotten many parts and without the music, those parts are gone. Still, it was fun to play and I blew away some friends when I did.
it's very good. but i don't feel a great power coming from the music. this is really hard to describe btw. look for finlandia by jean sibeluis played on piano the one with the guy in a church of his hometown or something like that and you will hopefully see what i meen
When you've played a piece over and over again, you remember it. It's like being able to quote lyrics from a song. Besides, your hands get used to being in a certain place when you hear the other muscians playing, so without even thinking about it, they move almost of their own accord.
But that's not really memorizing a piece. That is basically having your hands getting used to where you're going and playing it through. This is so dangerous when performing because this is how you will break down. Why? Because you don't actually know the actual notes and if you try to think about it you will totally mess up. That's why you know how well a person can play when they say, "Well if I don't think about it, it's ok."
I'm learning that the correct way to perform from memory is to not rely only on your subconscious muscle movement, but to actually know the piece inside out. If u understand the melodic and harmonic structure of the piece, know what happens where, sing the lines in note-names and follow them through, u will have confidence. This is not memorizing, but breaking the piece down n then playing it as if u're placing every note on purpose. It actually makes practicing an exciting experience!
@Caramellatta the best way to learn things off by heart is to be awful at reading the music, i can read music, but i cant read piano music, and i can play something by heart if i play it once or twice.
What Rosie is saing isn't bs. If you played an instrument you'd know that... well if you played one well that is. There's always going to be some muscle memory. Even with orchestral pieces.
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Well played with many fine touches & details, even if on the whole it's a little fast & offhand + careless reading of LH each time in main theme! Frustrating cut off to cadenza. Whap a titty as it starts off promisingly.
I personally do not like to go to concerts... I rather get a recorded version. Firstly the concerts are never perfect however the recorded versions are almost perfect as they are recorded again and again until they are happy with it. And also Like in this video I was really annoyed with the sound of page flipping and people dropping something.
I strongly disagree with this because 1.) Each live performance is unique 2.) The sound is so much fuller in life... it has a quality that no speaker can pick up or that any speaker can amplify. 3.) As a high school student who is aspiring to be a violist, that means that musicians would be replaced by robots sometime in the near future. :P
My high school performed this last year, and the pianist was amazing, but the orchestra stood no chance against the professionals... like these.
Well quite seriously, if you don't like to concerts, and you must have absolute perfection, than you've kind of missed the point of the music and the feeling that great artists create, so you should probably go back to the drawing board and figure that one out. Why are you even commenting on this if you can't stand live performances? Hell, that they might make a mistake, walking the line between control and the lack thereof- that's part of musical tension too.
It's kind of strange to read the opinions regarding different videos of classical music. Almost all comments are about the technical performance of the soloist or the orchestra playing.
Well, what do you expect? Most people that wish to watch these performances have something to say about the way it's done. Though I know what you mean...why not just appreciate the beauty, right? Well, believe me, I do...but knowing how it should sound, we comment on the flaws because each performance doesn't always reach the beauty it is meant to reach, and the kind we know it can aspire to reach.
i think, and excuse me, that most of people that critics songs here in youtube only want to be "cool". I mean, i´ve never seen links to places where it sounds better, or comments about what orchestra perform better the song, ar things like that.
I only read, (almost always), things like "too fast". Well, each pianist do it as it thinks it should be, and you like it or not, but... say that it´s wrong?
That's a bit of an issue, "knowing how it should sound...".I know the whole story, I'm classically trained (piano), but maybe people should become a little less conservative and leave the technical things to themselves,and drop the whole eclectic thing...otherwise we'll be having house music ONLY in the near future,if not more and more people start to remember about how great music once was,be it classical,jazz,rock,traditional...anything but that horrible house crap.
@charizianne I think what I had in mind was that the interpretation is often set aside by the focus on "did you hear the misses on 3:37?" I have to say I understand your question....what else is there than the playing of the soloist and the orchestra... well... nothing. The problem is that people who are rehearsing a piece themselves often only focus on where the pianist missed something. I have a feeling that when it comes to live performances everyone knows that there will be small mistakes..
The melody at this particular part in the piece is indeed very moving, and at the suggestion of Franz Liszt, the melody was given to solo trumpet in a re-orchestration of the piece, but Grieg changed it back to the final version we hear today.
If you can find a recording with the trumpet, it is simply breathtaking.
every time i hear this song, it reminds me of this guy who i played in a concerto performance w/. i played bach and he played this masterpiece. and let me tell u, he was FINE. and what made him even sexier was being able to play this song so well... so for all u guys out there, it is OUTRAGEOUSLY attractive for u to be able to play this.
The pianist is great but the conductor of the orchestra is keeping to strongly to a beat rather than letting the emotion of the song be expressed in varying rhythm. I just didn't like the speed.
The soloist is much superior to the orchestra, but even so it is a more than decorous performance as a whole. For my taste the soloist needs to interpenetrate some more in the true spirit of the work, as it is I feel his rendering slightly cold and his tempo just a little, very little bit under what it would optimal, needs it just a light 'tune up' I should say. And yes, a big pity the end of the movement is missing...
Excellent, although I agree with Scriabyn: The cadenza seems to start around 08:44 and must continue on a successor video. I see a Finale video, and will search for the rest. Good performance, though I'm comparing always with the old Ignaz Friedmann
I love the Conductor, the orchestra sounded great.
fapestar 1 week ago
The conductor was too restrained. I had the impression she was doing hardly anything more than keeping time, occasionally waving her left hand to do what a powerful left hand is supposed to do. A fortissimo is not only the orchestra's. It is also the conductor's, and the impression that this gives. That is what differentiates listening to a recording and watching a live performance.
ranhilio 2 weeks ago
Best piano ever is Bösendorfer, 100% handmade, and with sharper, clearer bass notes than any other piano. The second better is Steinway
nanchuanwushu1 3 weeks ago
"You're playing all the wrong notes!"
"I'm playing all the right notes, just jot necessarily in the right order!"
TheJosbo 1 month ago 4
That's such a good piano. I wonder if its a Steinway?
tjtheplay 2 months ago
I learned to play this in 1978 when I was 16 and although now it's been over 30 years since I've played it, my fingers still 'remember' and I don't *think* about it at all--except where to begin playing. Once my hands begin doing those runs, it's beyond my understanding how I can still play parts of the song. Granted, I have forgotten many parts and without the music, those parts are gone. Still, it was fun to play and I blew away some friends when I did.
troutslayer52101 2 months ago
het is allmoest goed een ei denk vat hij niet doet ist die emocijaar ekspressis.. maar het was goed performansis :D
mathugnigga 2 months ago
fajne !
oberek92 3 months ago
fake and gay.
pagesinthedesert5 4 months ago
@pagesinthedesert5 ... that's your perfect self-portrait: you'll be fake and gay 'till the day you die, boy :D
julioverme55 3 months ago
hi :)
Epicficator 4 months ago
this pianist feels it and loves it. great feeling
koss121 4 months ago in playlist My Classical Playlist
dis iz da most classical song i've ever seen. i hope i can pratice it so i can play it.
YuukiA1 6 months ago
you hate grieg ?
DANN BEKOMMST DU KRIEG !
Mephi1995 8 months ago 2
HOW THE FUCK can ANYONE DIS-LIKE GRIEG????? FUCKING PATHETIC!!!!
TungstenMatrix 9 months ago
Don't I wish I'd learnt to play the piano,too old now.
Mrbenggo 9 months ago
@Mrbenggo Oh come now. It's never too late to learn an instrument! Give it a go! It's great for the mind, and really enjoyable!
LOTRzagorath 9 months ago 2
bshhhhhhl
jack99530 10 months ago
14 people [insert aspersion here]
themusician31 11 months ago 2
So this is the version with the 'Have A Banana' taken out then :(.
666deadman1988 1 year ago 5
...eccezionale composizione di Grieg...bellissima...
Ottima interpretazione.
NuovoCurioso 1 year ago
A little fast for my taste but still flawless, nonetheless:)
IHeartDPryde 1 year ago
fab !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p
pinurk 1 year ago
великолепно!!!!!
Nemesis1201 1 year ago
Outstanding performance. Love the introduction.
Kaggypants 1 year ago
è troppo bello!!!
pianostefyforte 1 year ago
Stephen Bishop-Kovacevich, Movement 3 - 1970 Philips Recording:
watch?v=L1Z2DtsjtUQ
thanks and regards.
classicvinylbiz 1 year ago
En el inicio se parece al II mov. de la 7ma Sinfonía de Beethoven.
sauterio 1 year ago
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sauterio 1 year ago
bravo
gmonkey808 1 year ago
I know. I want to hear the whole thing. They always cut it off
tuanleluong 1 year ago
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Hello,
can anyone tell me what is the music played in video above (starts at 1:00)?
/watch?v=V_G_ZRThifM
hlupekkk 1 year ago
don't you just LOVE the way the strings are 'swinging' in the opening refrain!
waynespeers 1 year ago
Certified Intergalactic! Grandiose!
Dogaradodia 2 years ago 4
beautiful.
MsAdianna 2 years ago 3
This is one of the most beautiful renditions of this magical piece that I have ever heard. Bravo to Agata and Pawel!! Splendid!
chevychase 2 years ago
SeanMan87 INCORRECT Arthur Rubenstein rarely used sheet music, neither did Yehudi Menuhin.
Easier to know a song inside out without the score that you push yourself to KNOW what notes you will play.
MrLuvlyJubly 2 years ago 5
Ahhhh!!!! They cut the end of the movement!!! Blasphemy!!! lol
musicvirtuoso84 2 years ago 5
it's very good. but i don't feel a great power coming from the music. this is really hard to describe btw. look for finlandia by jean sibeluis played on piano the one with the guy in a church of his hometown or something like that and you will hopefully see what i meen
RoryGarbutt 2 years ago
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haha i cant believe this goes for 10 minutes i mean seriously come on... i should be playing...-_-
barryandpitch 2 years ago
No matter what you think of the player, its still a wonderful piece of music.
kellysdad1946 2 years ago 2
That was to Rosie by the way.
BloomingElephants 2 years ago
Wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
criseluka 2 years ago
just started playing this in my school! love it!
trezr40 2 years ago
Beautiful music!!
JerusalemHolyLand 2 years ago 2
I'm going to attempt to learn this piece for solo piano....wish me luck
bookfreak29 2 years ago 9
You'll need it, I attempted this when I was at Grade 5 and, unsurprisingly, I didn't get far beyond the dramatic cascading chords of the opening.
tribecatom 2 years ago
nice. i'm playing this in 2 days...... :)
ingute1992 3 years ago
Why / How do some(most?) people have a music sheet in front of them and some dont when playing the Piano? Like him.
(From a non-piano player).
hogrider9 3 years ago
When you've played a piece over and over again, you remember it. It's like being able to quote lyrics from a song. Besides, your hands get used to being in a certain place when you hear the other muscians playing, so without even thinking about it, they move almost of their own accord.
Rosie1955 3 years ago 6
muscle memory basically :)
oberon06 3 years ago 2
But that's not really memorizing a piece. That is basically having your hands getting used to where you're going and playing it through. This is so dangerous when performing because this is how you will break down. Why? Because you don't actually know the actual notes and if you try to think about it you will totally mess up. That's why you know how well a person can play when they say, "Well if I don't think about it, it's ok."
BloomingElephants 2 years ago 32
I'm learning that the correct way to perform from memory is to not rely only on your subconscious muscle movement, but to actually know the piece inside out. If u understand the melodic and harmonic structure of the piece, know what happens where, sing the lines in note-names and follow them through, u will have confidence. This is not memorizing, but breaking the piece down n then playing it as if u're placing every note on purpose. It actually makes practicing an exciting experience!
Caramellatta 2 years ago 60
you're 100% correct
Erudite127 2 years ago
@Caramellatta the best way to learn things off by heart is to be awful at reading the music, i can read music, but i cant read piano music, and i can play something by heart if i play it once or twice.
JamieMaule 1 year ago
@JamieMaule Me too! I only look at music for reference occasionally and usually just remember it. (i play piano)
SweeetPea95 1 year ago
@Caramellatta
You seem to understand music!
:-)
Mitrumothy 1 year ago
@Caramellatta SUCH good advice, I definitely need to work on this
rosielxxrik 10 months ago
@Caramellatta good tip i will try it like that
tjcavallo 6 months ago
@Caramellatta Or simply, you should play the piece as if you composed it!!!
satyu131089 1 month ago
@BloomingElephants To summarise, a player must have a good balance between expression and technique.
Kperson123 1 year ago
no rosie , thts bs lol. Typically concertos are performed of by heart, it is customary , where as orchestras obviously use sheet music
HaleQuin 2 years ago
What Rosie is saing isn't bs. If you played an instrument you'd know that... well if you played one well that is. There's always going to be some muscle memory. Even with orchestral pieces.
enzyme1210 2 years ago
Orchestral players always use sheet music. It is unusual to have the performer of a concerto use sheet music... period.
SeanMan87 2 years ago 3
I can't find the second part of this first movement posted anywhere. I guess it's not on Youtube??
FILIGREE1 3 years ago
yes it is
its in the related videos section
RamboHEATHEY 3 years ago
Thanks v.much.
FILIGREE1 3 years ago
what happened to the cadenza? did it get cut off?
liz22463 3 years ago
i've played this in the Junior Royal Academy Symphony Orcheestra. The pianist was amazing.
Jacob Barnes.
enzyme1210 3 years ago 2
Another great Polish - as a man and the pianist! Congratualtions!
MZAjro 3 years ago
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Well played with many fine touches & details, even if on the whole it's a little fast & offhand + careless reading of LH each time in main theme! Frustrating cut off to cadenza. Whap a titty as it starts off promisingly.
NOSEhow2LIV 3 years ago
Ahhhh! It's my dream to play this piece.
Great version.
musichershey 3 years ago 3
The edinburgh secondary schools orchestra is currently doing this and it is embarrassing to hear how good this one is.
seanfromtheblock 3 years ago
lol yes they are so much better than esso
its quite cringey :P
cosmiccapers101 3 years ago
I personally do not like to go to concerts... I rather get a recorded version. Firstly the concerts are never perfect however the recorded versions are almost perfect as they are recorded again and again until they are happy with it. And also Like in this video I was really annoyed with the sound of page flipping and people dropping something.
maplesupersun 3 years ago
I strongly disagree with this because 1.) Each live performance is unique 2.) The sound is so much fuller in life... it has a quality that no speaker can pick up or that any speaker can amplify. 3.) As a high school student who is aspiring to be a violist, that means that musicians would be replaced by robots sometime in the near future. :P
My high school performed this last year, and the pianist was amazing, but the orchestra stood no chance against the professionals... like these.
Farnik01 3 years ago 3
Well quite seriously, if you don't like to concerts, and you must have absolute perfection, than you've kind of missed the point of the music and the feeling that great artists create, so you should probably go back to the drawing board and figure that one out. Why are you even commenting on this if you can't stand live performances? Hell, that they might make a mistake, walking the line between control and the lack thereof- that's part of musical tension too.
fiddlinmatt 3 years ago
Where is the reat of the first movement. Cot off just before the frigging cadenza.
FILIGREE1 3 years ago
i love the sound of the orchestra, sound perfect to me, even the pianist himself, it sounded like it came from a well recorded c.d.
i have a copy of this piece for two pianos, and i must say, i never got bored listening and watching this awesome performance.
bravo~
yabs0414 3 years ago
It's kind of strange to read the opinions regarding different videos of classical music. Almost all comments are about the technical performance of the soloist or the orchestra playing.
badmuslim 3 years ago
Well, what do you expect? Most people that wish to watch these performances have something to say about the way it's done. Though I know what you mean...why not just appreciate the beauty, right? Well, believe me, I do...but knowing how it should sound, we comment on the flaws because each performance doesn't always reach the beauty it is meant to reach, and the kind we know it can aspire to reach.
Polskapan 3 years ago
i think, and excuse me, that most of people that critics songs here in youtube only want to be "cool". I mean, i´ve never seen links to places where it sounds better, or comments about what orchestra perform better the song, ar things like that.
I only read, (almost always), things like "too fast". Well, each pianist do it as it thinks it should be, and you like it or not, but... say that it´s wrong?
psicobiris 3 years ago
That's a bit of an issue, "knowing how it should sound...".I know the whole story, I'm classically trained (piano), but maybe people should become a little less conservative and leave the technical things to themselves,and drop the whole eclectic thing...otherwise we'll be having house music ONLY in the near future,if not more and more people start to remember about how great music once was,be it classical,jazz,rock,traditional...anything but that horrible house crap.
dixxjamm 3 years ago
@badmuslim well, really what else is there to comment on?
charizianne 2 months ago
@charizianne I think what I had in mind was that the interpretation is often set aside by the focus on "did you hear the misses on 3:37?" I have to say I understand your question....what else is there than the playing of the soloist and the orchestra... well... nothing. The problem is that people who are rehearsing a piece themselves often only focus on where the pianist missed something. I have a feeling that when it comes to live performances everyone knows that there will be small mistakes..
badmuslim 2 months ago
awesome composition
meghybasstrombone 3 years ago
Isn't it a bit too fast the first one and a half minute?
It's a very good performance, though.
ThSkBj 3 years ago
absolutely brilliant
14NederlandsBelang14 3 years ago 3
I have never heard of this pianist, but I think he's very good. Brilliant performance.
thunder1909 3 years ago 2
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did he mess up at 1:00?
edyhycul 3 years ago
hes not playing at exactly one minute but his entry just after is less sure but i think he got the notes right just a little tentitive
alfaz210 3 years ago
Fantastic!
earthatic 3 years ago
NO! Why did it stop, it was so good! It's such a great cadenza too, which would no doubt be played brilliantly by such a fine player.
FreemanNeckbrake 3 years ago 2
Excellent rendition of a simply amazing piece of music
CursedSkeptic 3 years ago
I love the cello melody at 2:25
Klangzauberer 3 years ago 3
The melody at this particular part in the piece is indeed very moving, and at the suggestion of Franz Liszt, the melody was given to solo trumpet in a re-orchestration of the piece, but Grieg changed it back to the final version we hear today.
If you can find a recording with the trumpet, it is simply breathtaking.
Mancalaman 3 years ago
the opening is as cool as the opening of welcome to the jungle. A great opening. A great song too, but the opening is best.
Thelavendel 3 years ago
That's a really weird thing to compare it with, but I kind of agree. Two great openings. Even though I'm more into the melodies like 2:25 and 4:24
koz233 3 years ago
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the pianist is suprisingly poor???
Scaudwell 3 years ago
You have a surprisingly poor comment. This is one of the finest Grieg concerto performances I have ever heard - outstanding.
Crisp and clean.
SunnyKid975 3 years ago 6
great oboe!
ajkjkkf 3 years ago
wER is the cadenza?
darnmat 3 years ago
this is a superb rendition, thanks for the posting
freqeist1 3 years ago 3
dobre wykonanie - z przyjemnością się tego słucha
kprzewozny 3 years ago
I saw this performed last night by the Eastman Philharmonic with Louis Lortie. It was absolutely phenomenal!
Wonderful piece, and great job by the pianist [and oboist] here!
Ifrit699 3 years ago
great oboist in this orchestra =]
PurePoison12 3 years ago 4
I just wish I could play this song.
I'm learning the arranged version by Margaret Goldston.
thepman366 3 years ago
the pianist is great. it's true. and this is a spectacular piece. I'm going to play it myself with my school's orchestra in 2 days.
vintekla 3 years ago 4
nice!
ryan7o3 3 years ago
lol
zetsuXitachi 3 years ago
Fantastic. Great pianist!
Cartoonsbystan 4 years ago 5
are they husband and wife, or brother and sister?
fiddlinmatt 4 years ago 2
every time i hear this song, it reminds me of this guy who i played in a concerto performance w/. i played bach and he played this masterpiece. and let me tell u, he was FINE. and what made him even sexier was being able to play this song so well... so for all u guys out there, it is OUTRAGEOUSLY attractive for u to be able to play this.
zoeyzou 4 years ago
ROFL
xPatriarch 4 years ago 2
you like good solo performers, and I like girls who can play tennis.
breastplates 3 years ago
i'm currently working on this concerto, and this is one of the best performances i've heard,
but i think that the tempo can be a bit more free =]
XxaznphoenixxX 4 years ago
The pianist is great but the conductor of the orchestra is keeping to strongly to a beat rather than letting the emotion of the song be expressed in varying rhythm. I just didn't like the speed.
Sometimesseespeople 4 years ago
who is the pianist
pianoman6793 4 years ago
Wow, this is like the best performance of Grieg's first piano concerto here on Youtube.
princeali85 4 years ago
Grieg's....only piano concerto.
EmYe123 4 years ago 2
Really? thats sucks, he wasobviously good at them!
tothemax91 3 years ago
BUT where is the CADENZA?
yubito25 4 years ago 2
Fantastic, that is the best GriegVersion by Youtube!!!!
Dzienkuje Polska!!!
Nadeschdaa 4 years ago
the best part is the opening. =)
HeartbreakerMax 4 years ago 5
yeah, that's true xD I love the opening yeah
Flamedramon007 4 years ago 2
This is a BEAUTIFUL performance! Why haven't I heard this pianist before??
zucchini2007 4 years ago
The soloist is much superior to the orchestra, but even so it is a more than decorous performance as a whole. For my taste the soloist needs to interpenetrate some more in the true spirit of the work, as it is I feel his rendering slightly cold and his tempo just a little, very little bit under what it would optimal, needs it just a light 'tune up' I should say. And yes, a big pity the end of the movement is missing...
juskisiberiano 4 years ago 2
the opening bar of this piece covers the entire range of the piano.
kaylaharrod 4 years ago
best piano concerto ever written !!
magdyweeka 4 years ago
que bueno!
ilovecomposition 4 years ago
how old is he?
solarinox 4 years ago
His page says he was born in 1976.
pawelzeszczecina 4 years ago
Çok etkileyici ve güzel!Melodisi de çok hoş!
cevahircebeci 4 years ago
Excellent, although I agree with Scriabyn: The cadenza seems to start around 08:44 and must continue on a successor video. I see a Finale video, and will search for the rest. Good performance, though I'm comparing always with the old Ignaz Friedmann
sagalat 4 years ago
Piękne. Poza tym bardzo podoba mi się, że mogę zobaczyć, jakie instrumenty akurat grają, bo nie wszystko przecież słuchając.
pawelzeszczecina 4 years ago
where is the cadenza???what extrange....hum ; (
scriabyn 4 years ago
this is indeed one of the best on youtube!
Good work!
bulboflight 4 years ago
wonderful performance!!!
greatlife11 4 years ago
Amazing!
ConcertoMaster 4 years ago