Alpha Course Week Two - Why Did Jesus Have to Die ?

[kehanu]

socksumi, thats the point exactly, redemption, a free gift in love unconditional, not based on what you have done or will do but for the chance of a relationship with you.

the things we do for those we love (despite our human condition - to put it nicely) does not fall short of irrational or extravagant, no greater love. explore it a bit more matey.

[socksumi]

If we had witnessed an innocent man (Jesus) being slowly tortured and murdered, we would have been duty bound to stop it. Substitutional atonement or vicarious redemption are moral absurdities. A man's moral stature is not at the mercy of someone else's actions---since when is guilt transferable?

The irrationality of fundamentalist christianity never cease to amaze me.