No it does not fail. Saying that God needs a creator is just like "What happened before the big bang?" according to your belief. So the question is wrong in the first place.
@BestThought to answer your question, seeing as neglected to research for an answer, the big bang would have been the result of already existing matter within the multiverse, seeing that you probably won't take the time to research it anyways, I will leave a link to a wikipedia article on it, the article is accurate if you're wondering and I hate your ignorance.
The day evolution is named fact will be the best day of my life. People who say it is "Just a theory" are retards. I say this because the definition of a theory is a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine. The theory of evolution is based on extensive research and experimentation!!!!!!!!! Good Video!!!!!!!
...once you step outside of the hamster cage(when you die), then your mind engulfs the whole universe and you become free. and your thoughts are set free from the small hamster cage we are put in. your mind becomes huge and your spirit becomes GOD. see your mind is smaller then a hamster cage and with small like cage, are minds have no where to go except repeat the same hamster wheel we run everyday. to be absent of the body is to be present with GOD.
let me tell you briefly what the human mind is. the human head that holds the brain, is a hamster cage that keeps our thoughts at bay. your thoughts can only travel through the small hamster cage that we all live in. to be free of the body is to be present with GOD. The meaning of that means your mind becomes huge when your spirit leaves the small encaged body that we live in. the body,the head and the brain keep people running in small circles like a hamster cage,the human body is imprisionment
@transtlantic my answer is He didnt. No one ever died from pollen allergies. Now get your mom to take you to see the allergist and move past this. Trust me, I live in the allergie capital of the US, in central Texas. My allergies rip me up every year until I started getting the shots. They were a God send... :)
why don't you say: "She didn't"? how do you know god has a penis?
"no one ever died from pollen allergies"? you are joking, ofc. There's even a name for the event that causes death due to an allergy: Anaphylaxis.
Around 15-20% of the world population are known to suffer allergies to something. The mortality of allergies in general is around 2-3% among diagnosed people with allergies.
There's an increase in mortality risk and morbidity among people with an allergy.
I think all of you on the last day, you should present your respective arguments to your Creator. lol. There will be a day of judgment, your belief or lack there of does not change anything. God created us with the ability to choose between Him or something else. So choose and live with your choice. Stopping putting others down because of their beliefs.
Go with it bud... but you should probably spend a few minutes in the old testament book of Job, especially the last four or five chapters... Your approach has been tried before by others. You think you can get some different results? By th way He does not punish us. We choose whether we want to spend our eternity with HIm or someplace else. Its our choice where we go. Hell was created to punish the devil and his angels not us. I hope you choose wisely my friend.
@thowellmatt633 its not a choice if the 'someplace else' is eternal hellfire. If i hold a gun to your face and ask you to pleasure me and love me.... you have a choice. I only use my gun on the devil..... or those who dont please me. because im so kind that way. (i dont actually have a gun but its a good metaphor)
I see your point, but its still a choice. You choose, I choose, everyone chooses by whether we accept Christ or not and how we live our lives. I agree wholeheartedly with your metaphor that (for me anyway) the choice is VERY easy. I perceive you are an thoughtful person, i think at some point in your life you will make a good choice.
wow you must have some severe allergies to solicit that kind of bitterness. Heres a tip: get your mom to take you to see an allergist and get some shots. :)
@thowellmatt633 if all you want to agree with is that its a choice, then fine. we are in agreement.
But based on the choice presented I would never agree that anyone/anything presenting that choice is a perfect or moral entity. and I have absolutely no desire to bow and worship such a thing.
That is my moral stand. if i get put into hell for choosing so then so be it. I believe that is the moral choice. standing up for what is right
In the biblical world view we are not born with a sense of right or wrong. These things are learned as we grow. This definately squares with my experience. Righteousness comes from God and Unrighteounsess comes from our adversary the devil. Your sense of right and wrong comes from our Heavenly Father whether you give Him the credit or not. He brought us together to have this conversation at this time in your life for a reason... Any ideas what that reason might be?
@thowellmatt633 are you ware that you contradicted yourself??
you say we are born without a sense of right and wrong (to which i somewhat agree i would say an underdeveloped sense of right and wrong not necesserily an entirely absent one).
If we learn what s right and wrong ourselves as you say... what room is there for god to teach us?? people braught up absent from christianity or absent from religion altogether are just as capable at learning these values as anyone else.
Perhaps you are right in that we do have a small sense of right and wrong when we come into this world. I see no problems with that at all. Nice job.
I have not contradicted myself. We learn our sense of right and wrong from others. From those whom we hold in high regard. Our parents, older siblings, friends, other relatives, role models, etc. This is why parenthood is such an important role and should not be taken lightly. Another source I have seen is gang members
A gang for example will have a sense of right and wrong based on what is right for the gang or wrong for the gang. Its seems to be relative. Whats right for the gang is good to them even if it hurts other people. To many gangs, selling narcotics is good because it makes the gang money even though is ruins lives of users. Individuals are the same. Whats good is whats right for me with little or no consideration for others needs. The bible teaches us to
consider others more highly than ourselves. Love God above all else and love others as we love ourselves. What sets true christians apart (not just people who go to church), I am talking about those who live their beliefs is that we would sooner be hurt ourselves than to see others suffer at our own hands. You should google the term "agape love" I like the wiki definition very much. We love others not because they are worthy but because God loves us...
@thowellmatt633 As i say again. we learn our rights and wrongs from others, i agree with this, and see no way in which a god is necessary in the learning of these morals.
Some morals are inherited and naturally understood by all, eg killing is understood to be wrong universally. That isnt to say that these cannot be overcome if the person is susceptable to taking orders from others (gang culture, military etc).
@thowellmatt633 I apprecite that you are able to take the 'good parts' of the bible and use those to live ur life by. If you feel that you need those to be a good person then i dont feel i should try and push you from your beliefs.
However... arguably a 'true' christian would live his/her life according to ALL rules in the bible, many of which are incredibly immoral.
I also disagree with your 'what sets us apart' attitude... as though u are somehow better than others. a true christian attitude??
The Life comes from dead chemicals? No way, after billions of experiments each year over 100 years. If you believe dead things come to life, then why don’t you believe in Jesus Christ resurrection? The Lord is living God for instant think about who programmed the living organism’s DNA information code & unlearned pre-program data (the skills) for birds to built the beautiful nest & communicate so another animal skills like extraordinary navigation skills for turtle to navigate thousands of miles
@seemlyme You clearly do not understand abiogenesis. It is not dead things come to life. It is the chemicals which is really all we are when you break us down, form the basic building blocks of life. Everything from there is the process of evolution. Which would completely explain the rest of your argument.
@seemlyme Synthetic lifeforms have been created, We have seen ribonucleotides self assemble in labs now, all sorts of advances are happening, so we are getting there. We will find out how life can start all by itself, and it won't be very long now. Or maybe it's just "God" doing his magic tricks in those labs? Maybe "God" is guiding those scientists? Haha. : )
1) Absence of anything is nothing and the life is you, you can not come from nowhere so even god can not pop out from nowhere. You are like software and your body is like hardware of the computer, even god can not get anything from nothing especially you are the life. The Life has to come from life. You are a Spirit child of God.
2) God can not do the wrong things because god does not have the option to choose so the god is not capable of doing wrong things
@seemlyme "God can not do the wrong things because god does not have the option to choose so the god is not capable of doing wrong things" Wrong how so? As in do evil? Harm people? Have you read the bible? "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 By creating evil is god not doing something wrong? I mean if I am judged by doing something wrong if I do evil should he not as well?
@CtheWolfe Listen you can't expect to be treated for doing something good if there wasn't an alternitive in the first place e.g: run away wid the money or return it" "save someone or let em weep" ect for all the good there must be evil why? for equalibrium god created us out of love BUT he wants us to LOVE him back. if he were to force us to love him we'd be like robots and it would not be the same. IT wouldn't be love it would simply be obeyin commands which is what we do but...
@kidhypeness So why can he not openly show us his existence. Knowledge has nothing to do with free will. I mean if your god exists and loves me why does he never attempt to speak to me? Before you go off and say well you need to seek him... I will tell you I went to church for years have read the bible thoroughly and still nothing. I just do not believe your god exists. It would not impair my ability to disobey him if his existence was plain as day.
@CtheWolfe (read the other coment 1st plz) -but through the will of love that we CHOOSE to do out of freewill that good gave us in the first place. and out of freewill people choose not to worsship the lord. god also created satan who is names lucifer by god who was also given free will what did he do he created the underworld and attacks god by messin about wid his creation i.e us now heres why there is evil god gives us free will because he love us so we choose to worship and satan
@kidhypeness I do not believe your god exists.... that does not mean I worship your satan.... Neither of them exist. There is evil because according to your god he created it. "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7. Evil is subjective. Your view of it is naive. Its not serve god or be evil.
@CtheWolfe (THIS IS THE 3RD COMMENT!) -and satan doesn't love us at all he hates our guts so he trys to take that freewill away from us by tauntin us with lust, drugs, alcohol ect so its doubely difficult to belive. it takes that leap of faith but look IF GOD DOES TOO MUCH WE BECOME DEPENDANT AND IF HE DOES TOO LITTLE WE LOSE FAITH any loving parent wants da best for there kids you wouldnt spoon feed them all there life and you would never turn your back on them if you love them
@kidhypeness I'm sorry but you are a fucking retard if you think all the negative options in life are satan. You are seriously deluded. Knowing if god exists would be a start. You cannot be dependent on something that does not interact with you. I know my parents exist. Your god however has made no attempt to show me he exists or that he loves me. A simple chat every few years might help. But hey your god does not exist so I understand why he wouldnt do that.
@kidhypeness ok let me clarify for you then. if ANYthing, including the concept of god, is outside of logic, time, and human comprehension, then it simply doesn't exist and is otherwise unworthy of commenting on, to the point that you don't have the ability to comment on it to be taken seriously. One could say "asdflk;ajsdf2" is outside logic, time, and human comprehension, and it would be the exact same thing: self-defeating blathering to say it's definition is undefinable.
I liked it, I was not able to tell if you were; pro Darwinism, or pro Creator? ...A true Teacher of knowledge will keep his personal opinion to himself, give you the facts and let you decide what the right answer is.
Nice video, but fuck the picture at 1:07. I'm a climate sceptic for the same reason I'm not a creationist: when I see natural phenomena, be they the evolution of species or climate changes, I don't automatically attribute it to a sentient being, be it god or man.
@hayesism regardless of whether climate change is true or not has really nothing to do with the fact that energy efficiency is a good thing and questionable methods of managing it should be the focus. why people throw the baby out with the bathwater just because you don't like the methods chosen to deal with it? so be a skeptic or deny the problem it's associated with altogether? sounds kind of pointless. it's at least very possible, regardless if it's currently happening or not.
@Thrashaero "regardless of whether climate change is true or not has really nothing to do with the fact that energy efficiency is a good thing" Hey, why not: Regardless of whether Christianity is true or not really has nothing to do with the fact that spirituality is a good thing and blah blah blah...
We hear these arguments all the time from Christians, and they're weak because the pursuit of truth should be the focus and straying from that because you like an ideology is anti-intellectual.
@hayesism wrong comparison. energy efficiency and greenhouse gas control are good ideas, whether or not there will be an armageddon-like slow spiral into oblivion if there is no standards held to. christianity and spirituality have usually absolutely zero in common with each other and are entirely not quantifiable in any objective sense. What's anti-intellectual is for you to selectively skeptical about a theory, vs. every other fucking scientific theory in existence.
@Thrashaero ...besides, if you think that our focus should be on energy efficiency (and you're honest with yourself) then you should definitely condemn solar and wind technologies and advocate fossil fuels, which remain by far the most efficient means of producing energy and are one of the few that don't require subsidisation.
@hayesism that is fucking hilarious because last i heard, fossil fuels get massive subsidies. fossil fuels are by absolutely no means efficient when it comes to the drilling, refinement, transportation, and hazards associated with them vs a field of solar panels. try putting less crack in that pipe you're smoking.
@hayesism fossil fuels "efficent?" That must be one of the funniest things I have ever heard. 200 years from now, they are going to look back and say, "How stupid were these people to base their entire worl economy on a resource that would run out?" Argument denoted.
The lactose feedback mechanism is a lousy example of decision making. Is absurd to argue Ecoli can "decide" whether to shut the operon on or off. Can you decide when to release insulin? If you could, there would be no diabetics. Your argument is ridiculous at best.
@Mr88playmaker Well I recommend one of two things for you either get a very good spell check that can form unutterable phrases from your keyboard into words or attend kindergarten and ask the teacher how to spell the word you
This is really excellent. Too bad it is so hard to find this kind of logical thinking in the world today! I thought it was pretty well understood by now, but amazingly, there is a huge number of otherwise seemingly intelligent people out there who still prefer not to deal with it. My hat's off to you, whoever you are!
The only known source of Information is a MIND. Only an MIND can bestow meaning to symbols.
DNA has destroyed the materialist theory, Darwin lived back in the 1800s ! Today a child can buy a cheap TOY microscope at WALMART many times more efficient than Darwin's old fashioned crap.. Darwin thought a cell was a SIMPLE blob of goo -a booger. Thanks to MODERN Science we know that the cell is a COMPUTER SYSTEM and that SYMBOLIC INFORMATION/language creates/WRITES & governs ALL-things biological-YOU!
I could keep arguing or go and put this time into my studies. I think the second one is better because my career is more important. Il let God deal with you on judgment day... After all he the ultimate judge
@transtlantic i cant find other comments of u anymore but ok. for the few things that ive read i can state what ever does not matter what sciencetist "research" together. lie or truth u will always believe them. so actually this is so pointless because u are stubborn and i am. ill tell u this u know when we both know who was right?? when we both die. because ull never ever ever get the whole evolution theory as a fact. only parts of it are the rest is made up. but yea they are sciencetists ...
You can't find "more comments", because i see you as an uneducated tard, incapable of understanding anything above highschool level. It's useless to try reason with you, you are uneducated, stupid, retarded, and obviously you suffer some sort of psychiatric problem.
Your conspiracy crap is part of your pathology. You are insane.
Fuck off, and stop bothering educated people with crap unrelated to the video.
Can you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
@transtlantic funded by the richest people on earth why would they lie to u???? rich people does help us soo much. they are never corrupt either. and they sure as hell dont believ that the world is overpopulated and wnat to eliminate the lower species. i mean with lower species common humans with a common income like me and probably u and ur parents and ur family. but ur right they do care about u. a few then. the rich rich people dont give a shit if ur alive or if ur 10 feet beneath their feet
You cant even go and investigate the bible lol you sit and shout abuse and insults yet you cant use your "superior learning" to go and investigate the bible because u know ur wrong.
the bible? lolol you are a joke. Why not Harry Potter? LOLOL I prefer to read about Scienc,e History, Art.
Your religious based fantasy is boring and very weak (afterall it was written by goat herders) lol
My "superior learning" was obtained by reading and practicing medicine during med school in order to cure or treat people.
The bible doesn't teach how to cure a pneumonia, but reading Harrison's 17th edition on the Evolution of AB resistance does help me and other doctors.
Why the bible? Nothing special about the bible. There are a million other books in the library to read. Far more interesting and far more deserving of attention. Way too much undeserved attention and time and energy wasted on the bible and koran.
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them, for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what he has made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or
Or read this!!! creationresearchDOTorg/crsq/articles/36/36_4/abiogenesisDOThtml
Oh wait... You woulnt cause u automatically think your right because you can read a book. Because you think anyone who a christian or creationist is uneducated. Sorry mate but its you thats uneducated if you cant look at all the information provided. Instead you reject it without looking at it or as you say you do "research"
Abiogenesis is not Evolution. as any junior highschool kid knows.
I know i am right because i studied. Books do contain information. but has a medical doctor i also proved countless times that the knowledge i obtained has practical use, thus validated.
I already told you that ALL my grandparents have superior education, and they are all roman catholic, christians. And ALL of them understand that evolution is fact.
You are the one i am proving that is a retarded christian.
Thats right go buy some of them.... Oh wait you woulnt cause ur no scientist... Your a boy in denial that believes what he told... Yeh say i believe what im told cause yeh i do... After i find the evidence.
Right the fact your denieing to look at the list of over 700 scientists proves your incompetant and lol 20 years education? Thats not superior lol lol lol im only behind u by like 3 years lol. You refuse to look at links that we give you so your scared of what your going to find lol lol your a scared kid thats hiding in dark corner of a room lol i pitty you.
Why are you denying to look at the list of over 10,000 scientists proves that you are an incompetent fuck who has no education. But it's ok... i notice you still don't know what an ad populum fallacy is. LOLOL
What links? i asked for a link and you failed to provide one. Here is a proper recognized link:
Anyway i cant change the mind of the lost and damned... Only YAHWEH our God, Jesus Christ our God can. If your right then well dont matter at least i would have lived a good life... But if im right.... Then your in a lot of trouble ;-) Yahweh dont put people to hell... Only people put themselves to hell.
Joseph Atkison, actually he is a chemist, his Ph.D is in a field related to organic chemistry applied to pharmacology - he was never a biologist. He has no formal education on biology and is a retired old fuck.
Christa R. Kovel - chemistry isn't biology. no formal education on biology.
Lydia G - indeed qualified in Biology, funny how she publishes work that relates to Natural selection and random mutations...my guess is she doesn't even know she is part of the "List". lol
Ofc you can change anyone's mind as long as you have evidence to support your claims. "God" doesn't exist. you have no evidence for that crap.
Jesus is long dead scizophrenic guy.
"if i'm right"? pascal's wager? well...there over 9,999 claimed gods. You have the exact same chance of being right as a person who believes Ra is the creator.
So... I have MORE chances to be right than you. as i have 10,000 times chance to be more right than you.
ofc superior education is superior. I have over 20 years of education, more than 3 in research, thousands of hours of practice. what do you have? lolol you clean floors! ffs!
You confuse common sense with being a sucker for snake oil.
Smart people have far more common sense than retarded shits like you.
I am right because i can prove it. You are Just another uneducated fuck holding to a God delusion.
Thomas M stackhouse, isn't a biologist, and his work mentions cancer research, where he mentions random mutations and explains efficiency of drugs according to Natural selection principles.
LOL i asked for 10 scientists. none of them is a Biologist by formal education, only 2 of them relate to Biology and of those 2 their work uses: random mutations and natural selection in order to explain their reasoning. LOLOL
As i said: you have jack shit. LOLOL not even a statement from them.
Then you have also not suplied evidence if i cant go and look at the papers you say you know. Roman catholicism is a cult so yeh... Ewehave explained speciation without evolution so no iv not contradicted. Obviously u not looked at the list of over 700 scientistsir otherwise you eould see the names and that they have PhDs. Problem with "superior education" is no itsnot superior and smart people tend to have no common sense and consider themselves right because they cant bear someone who not had
The paper i provided comes from PUBMED. more than 500,000 peer-reviewed scientific papers proving, testing, experimenting with Evolution.
Papers from qualified experts, researchers, professionals.
While what you provided us with is a website written by unqualified shitheads who can't even understand what is a cell.
You provided no information, no evidence. Evidence comes with a reference, which i taught you what it is. it's not a hint to a anecdotal website. you ignorant shithead.
most of my great grand parents, ALL of my gand parents, my parents and brothers, and myself, have superior education and most of them are roman catholic, christians. And no, they aren't thick. But you are. and no, they don't deny evolution is fact.
You are doing more red herring again.
AGAIN: Where's an explanation to Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
you ignorant, retarded, uneducated, unqualified, fucktarded moronic imbecile.
I dont deny speciation im happy to accept it when its seen without evolution. Real science is where you work away all the conflicting problems not absorb it by coming up with a idea. And tbh i think if you see someone has a PhD in biology then yah can basically see what they are trained in. However you dont have sense. Anyone can write what you wrote as a source. Even i could do that if i wanted but no i directed you to sites with the information and evidence which you refuse to look at.
Speciation is proof of evolution. so... you are contradicting yourself.
"when it's seen without evolution"? where? name a practical example. Real science also originates new conflicting problems as you discover more and more.
But you didn't name anyone with a PhD in biology.
"you dont have sense", that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Anyone can write what i wrote as a source and be correct. what you wrote isn't correct.
And i seriously doubt you can do what i did and do.
Iv just said two sources of evidence for two different things :-S i seriously doubt your ability to properly read anything that is written. Either that or your sooo stubborn that your right and over 700 scientists are wrong.
Emergence of young human genes after a burst of retroposition in primates.
Center for Integrative Genomics, University of Lausanne, Lausanne, Switzerland.
You can repeat the methodology and obtain the same results - empirical evidence. what you provided was a hint to a website written by uneducated fucks who can't even tell the difference between a cell or an atom.
so...what you are saying is that you have NO evidence. LOLOL
this is evidence for evolution:
Evolutionary Patterns of RNA-Based Duplication in Non-Mammalian Chordates
PLoS One. 2011; 6(7): e21466.
you still havent explained Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory. therefore your "creation science movement" is a bunch of useless uneducated fucks who can't do shit.
in dissentofdarwinDOTorg under the download heading is a list of over 700 scientists signing a acceptance to this following statment:-“We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”
What is not usually realised is that philosophies that ignore God and start with mans thinking and logic can be shown to be ultimatly illogical and self-contradicting. If taken to the logical conclusion, evolutionists have no moral basis for their actions and wouldlive in fearful life of "survival of the fittest" and find every man to be their enemy.
amazing how you claim there were meeting but you fail to provide evidence that any of them happened at all. LOLOL cretards and their made up stories. LOLOL
Where is your evidence to sustain your claims? inside a unicorn's arse again? LOLOLOL
"can be shown to be ultimatly illogical"? really? try show that on the following line of reasoning:
I observe no evidence for a god named God, therefore a god named God does not exist.
Since 1965 there been 3 mathematician and evolutionist meetings on the lack of time available even with the millions of years you claim for random mutation to form a complexity such as humans or even bacterium. These meetings were very acrimonious and almost came to blows. In one meeting they agreed not to publish their proceedings in order to give creationist ammunition.... So much for openness of science :-)
since when, what? care to provide evidence for one single of those claimed "meetings"? who was there, when it happened? sources? references? you are obviously lying again.
Random mutations happen all the time. Ask a medical doctor.
"form a complexity"? that's a failed argument. "complexity" is a very subjective and relative expression. Humans can't live inside a nuclear reactor, but some bacteria can, therefore why aren't those bacteria more complex? i would say they are.
For humans to grow 'wings' we must first become 'flying squirrels'. We would ALL have to spend our time jumping from tree to tree. Nature would favour those with fine frames, light bones, good power to weight ratios. A few million years later we might see flaps of skin appearing under our arms. Those with better flaps would 'survive' and pass on our successful mutation. After another few million years later those able to flap their flappy arms effectively would survive to pass on those genes...
@MrRouXRenard ok if we want to research this process ill need a guiniepig. ill take u; u can flap ur arms for as long as u live. u wont get any new information to receive wings in garantuee u that. few millions years?? who is setting the time for evolution to happen???
There is no need to go against creationists. They told me that the universe is expanding, back when I was in school. Expanding into what? There are things we can only wonder about. I am not saying that there must be a creator. I am saying that the infinite list of creators you provided are just as baffling as the concept of eternity, Universe expansion, and so on.
@transtlantic I would not choose the word "believe" my friend. Thank you for responding. I would argue that facts are really important; but then again, there must be always new ways of organizing and connecting those facts; it is not a matter of looking for a New Dictatorship or an authority. Knowledge and facts are only tools in human understanding; they cannot replace reality. They are an image of reality...And you left the concept of eternity out. Thank you again for writing.
@transtlantic If it were so clean-cut then Science would be a corpus of dogma.
A fact in Science and a fact in other areas has a different value. A fact is only valued as it is integrated into a theory. then again when a theory topples down it is usually linked to a new arrangement of facts.
Human language is just that; language, abstraction, not the thing per se.
And when you figure out we have then you will understand... Or is it your trying to create a circular motion as to avoid been challenged on more of your philosophy? All you are actually doing right now is shouting abuse and insulting people. So if your smarter than us and not retarded yourself then you wouldnt be shouting abuse
Why do we observe species changing into new species? Evolution.
Why don't we observe a god named God? because fairies do not exist.
Why some ppl believe in a god named God? according to the latest research: people with a lower level of education have a tendency to believe in the supernatural, just like kids who believe in santa. Ignorance = religious beliefs.
My challenge is still up: how do you explain Plant speciation w/out using evo theory?
@transtlantic bigcalsutch dont bother anymore talking to him. i will say 1 more thing to u my friend. an eternity in heaven is longer than 80-90years here on earth. let them think how they want. god gave us all a own choice. no matter how stupid some people are with believing everything that there high superintelligent scienctist say
Stephen Hawking is not a biology. And no, he doesn't agree with a finite universe and with a beginning. I've read all of his mainstream books. He clearly states a multiverse theory and an infinite existence.
Even his "beggining" claims is on the context of superstring colision, compatible with the multiverse hypothesis.
You clearly shouldn't try that line of argument. I can start spamming quotes of Prof Hawking supporting my claims.
God is a being that is without begining and without end. Our simple human minds cannot understand God fully. No science will tell why God has existed without beginning or end.
Well scientists have determend that time if finite so it had a begining meaning something has to create time which means a God outside time and space is perfectly possible
Even if there is an outside, that doesn't mean it has influence on the inside. "eternity in heaven"? why not hell? how do you know any of that crap is real?
Your bible crap has nothing to do with science. Evolution theory doesn't destroy your faith, your own ignorance is what is the problem.
Evolution is observed EVERYWHERE on earth. Plant speciation, AB resistance, diversity in our heights, ears, nose, etc. DIVERSITY is living proof that evolution is a fact.
@transtlantic did i say i know its real? i believe its real just like u believe but wont admit the same about evolution. there are many scienctific facts stated in the bible if ur scienctist would have read the bible instead of preaching evolution then tehre would be less dead people in the past. with there thinking that in blood the disseases are. thats how a former president died in amerika. but its all in the bible.
"i believe it's real"; if you have no evidence for, you can't claim it's real. You are lying. And no, Evolution is as much a fact, as Gravity or Atoms are. It's like a rock, you can deny the existence of the rock, but it will remain a rock, no matter what you believe in.
The bible is a fiction book. It has as many facts as the harry potter books. I don't like to read folk lore.
Actually...evolution theory is applied in medicine, so it saves lifes.
@transtlantic ok u believe evolutions is a fact and that no matter what i say it cant be changed. now i say to u god a fact. doesnt matter how much scienctists will proove that evolution is right they cant change whats real and when everything happens how the bible predicted it then ull be in serieus trouble. if it wont happen and evolution is true than i got lucky 2 because nothing will happen with me. parts of evolution theory about our dna that is true is probably used in medicine ...
I am sorry, but it's obvious you are dumb, uneducated and moronic. You won't understand basic science. no matter what. You are to fucking stupid to figure out the difference between an atom or a cell.
And god is a lie. And all the different stories people make up about gods are lies.
And they take these stories and modify them a little, throw in some references to real historical events, and make up further lies. The Battle of Troy.
Religionists cannot do the hard mental work and concentrations that scientists do.
@mphello u believe that god is a lie because there are so many lies about "gods" thats 1 of the methods they use to deceive people.
they take story's that really happend and they modify it for their own so people dont know wich one is correct. thats another method.
i hope u know there are creationist sciencetists?? u know why they dont publish much? because the evolution scienctists are sponsored by the rich and the rich want u to believe in evolution so they can let there plans come true.
@transtlantic but major evolution is a assumption. again evolution has facts how everything works. but they put lies into there evolution theory because u already believe everything they say soo u will believe tehre lies 2. and i think there is evidence in the bible on how to save people. with medical science.
However, if the oppisote is true, and something can be created out of nothing, which is what they are arguing, then God can be created out of nothing...
The theory of God works both ways.
If something was not able to be created out of nothing, again, The theory of God works.
I believe it begins with God. You can believe it begins with science, but it's the same thing, the arugment of God still exists. His arugment doesn't work either way, at least not to cancel out the possiblity of God.
@LynellePoet You are quite mistaken sir. If God is created out of nothing, then he/she/heshe is a mere result of the big bang or from the quantum fluctuations. God would have no more or no less powers than what physics dictates. If God had a creation, and that source be the big bang, then God would have to adhere to the laws of physics and nature and observations just like everything else. If such a case be, then why call him God. He would just be another cosmic anomaly.
That was in a program from a while back and i cant recall its name. Hiwever here a link fir a site showing the problems you deny in carbon 14 dating-wwwDOTangelfireDOTcom/mi/dinosaurs/carbondatingDOThtml
That was in a program from a while back and i cant recall its name. Hiwever here a link fir a site showing the problems you deny in carbon 14 dating-wwwDOTangelfireDOTcom/mi/dinosaurs/carbondatingDOThtml
Yet a mammoth skeleton found and they dated two bones from it. One dated at 22,500 years and the other at 44,000 years... Thats results from your dating either its really bad or wow..... Thats a long pregnancy ae?
Oh my goodness some people that recon they are so smart are actually soo thick. You clearly missing that the analogy is of a dying theory called evolution you idiot. Its inagination that is falsified in many ways. Your analogy of a conpany prospering is crap because thats not natural selection because the prospering company could go under and the smaller one can take over.
Or we dont follow it because evolution is a bunch of fools nursing a skeleton saying he still ok keep going when he dead. Where the creation model is been supported more and more where evolution... Less and less
Lawl? Natural selection is a real thing and can be seen in almost every area of life. EG, companies sell something, the best company will prosper, and the others will diminish. It has also been proved that mutations randomly occur. Therefore the best mutations succeed.
And your analogy is wrong. The idea of nursing back a skeleton implies that it was once alive. So what, evolution was right, but now its wrong? and where is the new proof fro creationism that you are referring to?
Apparently humans have been hear fir about 250,000 years yes?.... So why is there only about 5000 years of recorded history?... Which fits with the bible by the way.
@mrvalidin i remember mentioning ages ago about having 50% from mum and 50% from dad which makesup our 100% DNA. Also 100% of DNA is lost from the other 50% from each parent that didnot make it so that would be loss of genetic information yes?
@BigCalSuth thats a possibility but again we cant know that its an assumanation. i really cant tell if thats the way how information would be lost but its a good reason. for we wont get the full information of both of our parents but we only get 50% of each. im not a sciencetist and i do think thats something u can study.
"loss of genetic information"? nope. Your parents are still alive, aren't they? do you have brothers? do they have brothers? The Homo sapiens has been around for 250,000 years.
there's actually more 80,000 years of recorded history. Cave painting, for example: have over 30,000 to 35,000 years.
the bible is a fiction book. 5,000 years ago it was 3,000 B.C., lolol i visited temples in Egypt older than that. you ignorant tard.
@transtlantic i know how scienctist dates fossils. and there dates arent correct. they only use the variations of dates they get from 1 fossil thats fits in there geologic scale. eeeuh how do they date cave paintings???? date written under the paintings? eeuh egypt dates were messud up. the calendars they used arent the ones like we use so there dates are all wrong.
Obviously you don't know how dating techniques work. Their dates are quite correct. as proven.
1 fossil? only? LOLOL not at all. they use the atom decay in order to measure the time passed.
"how do they date cave paintings", usually those painting have heavy metals that allows to measure the "decay" time of the paint. You are just trying to present a red herring.
and FACT IS: still no explanation to Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory.
@transtlantic as proven by who?? ooh yea by the ones that believe in evolution duh. i ment for that fossil to make it understandeble xp. atom decay = carbon dating?? no i just wanted to know how they dated the paint cavings xp. well if its with carbon dating then the dates are incorrect. because the equilibrium in the universe hasnt been reached yet. there is still more carbon made by natural processes then there is carbon degraded. but they dont tell u that in their science textbooks do they??
Equilibrium in the universe? what the fuck are you talking about? carbon made? it's atom decay from higher isotopes! You clearly are a complete fail at basic chemistry.
I am talking about Evolution, because LIVING organisms are part of biological evolution.
Creationism has no part in any debate because it's buy bull induced shit. it's not science.
"bigger than our debates"?
lolol you sound like a RETARD. you can't debate with anyone.
@transtlantic living organismes are part of biologie thats correct. part of evolution? thats ur BELIEF. well keep saying that keep telling god isnt real. i really dont care anymore. people like u that are to stupid to suck up everything someone else says because they studied are the most ignorant people ive ever met.
Moron...Evolution is fact. It's a phenomena observed in ALL living organisms. doesn't matter if you believe in it or not. Gravity, atoms, evolution are still fact, even if you want to deny them.
Evolution has nothing to do with saying God isn't real. God isn't real because there is no evidence for one.
Whenever you make up one of your bullshit conspiracy theories as to why creationists don't get their worthless shit published in respectable peer-reviewed science journals, you'd damned well better have PROOF. But you have none. And neither do creationists.
And you'd damned well better start complaining about the BILLIONS of dollars CHURCHES have, and THEM being rich, and having 4 different fucking religious channels airing on my cable tv all the time.
sorry but you are not bright!
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Intelligence, that is.
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TheRectumsmasher 2 weeks ago
No it does not fail. Saying that God needs a creator is just like "What happened before the big bang?" according to your belief. So the question is wrong in the first place.
BestThought 2 weeks ago
@BestThought to answer your question, seeing as neglected to research for an answer, the big bang would have been the result of already existing matter within the multiverse, seeing that you probably won't take the time to research it anyways, I will leave a link to a wikipedia article on it, the article is accurate if you're wondering and I hate your ignorance.
lilstunnawbp 2 weeks ago
The day evolution is named fact will be the best day of my life. People who say it is "Just a theory" are retards. I say this because the definition of a theory is a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine. The theory of evolution is based on extensive research and experimentation!!!!!!!!! Good Video!!!!!!!
hhinds15 2 weeks ago
@hhinds15 Evolution is already a fact, it always was and always will be.
NightSchifter 2 weeks ago
...once you step outside of the hamster cage(when you die), then your mind engulfs the whole universe and you become free. and your thoughts are set free from the small hamster cage we are put in. your mind becomes huge and your spirit becomes GOD. see your mind is smaller then a hamster cage and with small like cage, are minds have no where to go except repeat the same hamster wheel we run everyday. to be absent of the body is to be present with GOD.
itsbeyondbelief 3 weeks ago
let me tell you briefly what the human mind is. the human head that holds the brain, is a hamster cage that keeps our thoughts at bay. your thoughts can only travel through the small hamster cage that we all live in. to be free of the body is to be present with GOD. The meaning of that means your mind becomes huge when your spirit leaves the small encaged body that we live in. the body,the head and the brain keep people running in small circles like a hamster cage,the human body is imprisionment
itsbeyondbelief 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 You didnt answer to my question, maybe if i repeat it: why would Ur fairy named God creste the trees that kill is with allergies?
transtlantic 3 weeks ago
@transtlantic my answer is He didnt. No one ever died from pollen allergies. Now get your mom to take you to see the allergist and move past this. Trust me, I live in the allergie capital of the US, in central Texas. My allergies rip me up every year until I started getting the shots. They were a God send... :)
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633
why don't you say: "She didn't"? how do you know god has a penis?
"no one ever died from pollen allergies"? you are joking, ofc. There's even a name for the event that causes death due to an allergy: Anaphylaxis.
Around 15-20% of the world population are known to suffer allergies to something. The mortality of allergies in general is around 2-3% among diagnosed people with allergies.
There's an increase in mortality risk and morbidity among people with an allergy.
transtlantic 3 weeks ago
I think all of you on the last day, you should present your respective arguments to your Creator. lol. There will be a day of judgment, your belief or lack there of does not change anything. God created us with the ability to choose between Him or something else. So choose and live with your choice. Stopping putting others down because of their beliefs.
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 if he (he?) gave me a choice then he has no right to punish me for following the evidence which i am presented with.
if i have to present an argument to him then itll be pretty comprehensive, i could even convice him that he didnt do anything
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@haz020190
Go with it bud... but you should probably spend a few minutes in the old testament book of Job, especially the last four or five chapters... Your approach has been tried before by others. You think you can get some different results? By th way He does not punish us. We choose whether we want to spend our eternity with HIm or someplace else. Its our choice where we go. Hell was created to punish the devil and his angels not us. I hope you choose wisely my friend.
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 its not a choice if the 'someplace else' is eternal hellfire. If i hold a gun to your face and ask you to pleasure me and love me.... you have a choice. I only use my gun on the devil..... or those who dont please me. because im so kind that way. (i dont actually have a gun but its a good metaphor)
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@haz020190
I see your point, but its still a choice. You choose, I choose, everyone chooses by whether we accept Christ or not and how we live our lives. I agree wholeheartedly with your metaphor that (for me anyway) the choice is VERY easy. I perceive you are an thoughtful person, i think at some point in your life you will make a good choice.
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633
Why would your fairy named God create the trees that kill us with allergies?
good choice: believing in fairies is childish
transtlantic 3 weeks ago
@transtlantic
wow you must have some severe allergies to solicit that kind of bitterness. Heres a tip: get your mom to take you to see an allergist and get some shots. :)
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 if all you want to agree with is that its a choice, then fine. we are in agreement.
But based on the choice presented I would never agree that anyone/anything presenting that choice is a perfect or moral entity. and I have absolutely no desire to bow and worship such a thing.
That is my moral stand. if i get put into hell for choosing so then so be it. I believe that is the moral choice. standing up for what is right
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@haz020190
In the biblical world view we are not born with a sense of right or wrong. These things are learned as we grow. This definately squares with my experience. Righteousness comes from God and Unrighteounsess comes from our adversary the devil. Your sense of right and wrong comes from our Heavenly Father whether you give Him the credit or not. He brought us together to have this conversation at this time in your life for a reason... Any ideas what that reason might be?
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 are you ware that you contradicted yourself??
you say we are born without a sense of right and wrong (to which i somewhat agree i would say an underdeveloped sense of right and wrong not necesserily an entirely absent one).
If we learn what s right and wrong ourselves as you say... what room is there for god to teach us?? people braught up absent from christianity or absent from religion altogether are just as capable at learning these values as anyone else.
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 not to mention in the case of the bible it most certainly doesnt contain what i would consider to be moral values.
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@haz020190
Perhaps you are right in that we do have a small sense of right and wrong when we come into this world. I see no problems with that at all. Nice job.
I have not contradicted myself. We learn our sense of right and wrong from others. From those whom we hold in high regard. Our parents, older siblings, friends, other relatives, role models, etc. This is why parenthood is such an important role and should not be taken lightly. Another source I have seen is gang members
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633
out of curiosity. You dumb uneducated imbecile fucktard moronic retard:
How do you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
you can't! thus no one gives a shit about your personal delusions.
transtlantic 3 weeks ago
@haz020190
A gang for example will have a sense of right and wrong based on what is right for the gang or wrong for the gang. Its seems to be relative. Whats right for the gang is good to them even if it hurts other people. To many gangs, selling narcotics is good because it makes the gang money even though is ruins lives of users. Individuals are the same. Whats good is whats right for me with little or no consideration for others needs. The bible teaches us to
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@haz020190
consider others more highly than ourselves. Love God above all else and love others as we love ourselves. What sets true christians apart (not just people who go to church), I am talking about those who live their beliefs is that we would sooner be hurt ourselves than to see others suffer at our own hands. You should google the term "agape love" I like the wiki definition very much. We love others not because they are worthy but because God loves us...
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 As i say again. we learn our rights and wrongs from others, i agree with this, and see no way in which a god is necessary in the learning of these morals.
Some morals are inherited and naturally understood by all, eg killing is understood to be wrong universally. That isnt to say that these cannot be overcome if the person is susceptable to taking orders from others (gang culture, military etc).
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 I apprecite that you are able to take the 'good parts' of the bible and use those to live ur life by. If you feel that you need those to be a good person then i dont feel i should try and push you from your beliefs.
However... arguably a 'true' christian would live his/her life according to ALL rules in the bible, many of which are incredibly immoral.
I also disagree with your 'what sets us apart' attitude... as though u are somehow better than others. a true christian attitude??
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633
now...how the fuck do you explain your fairy god named God creating the trees that kill us with allergies?
Why are you getting shots? why didn't your fairy god create you without the need for shots?
"God send"? did a fairy named God give you the shots? i think not.
You are just presenting logical fallacies. What proof do you have that it wasn't "Odin send"? or "Invisible magical flying pigs send"?
transtlantic 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633 but i say this only in a supposed sense anyway, as i have no reason to believe that such a being or such a choice exists.
but that would still be my stance if the choice did exist.
haz020190 3 weeks ago
@thowellmatt633
you're full of shit.
transtlantic 3 weeks ago
@transtlantic
you on the other hand are not so thoughtful...
thowellmatt633 3 weeks ago
The Life comes from dead chemicals? No way, after billions of experiments each year over 100 years. If you believe dead things come to life, then why don’t you believe in Jesus Christ resurrection? The Lord is living God for instant think about who programmed the living organism’s DNA information code & unlearned pre-program data (the skills) for birds to built the beautiful nest & communicate so another animal skills like extraordinary navigation skills for turtle to navigate thousands of miles
seemlyme 3 weeks ago
@seemlyme You clearly do not understand abiogenesis. It is not dead things come to life. It is the chemicals which is really all we are when you break us down, form the basic building blocks of life. Everything from there is the process of evolution. Which would completely explain the rest of your argument.
CtheWolfe 3 weeks ago
@seemlyme Synthetic lifeforms have been created, We have seen ribonucleotides self assemble in labs now, all sorts of advances are happening, so we are getting there. We will find out how life can start all by itself, and it won't be very long now. Or maybe it's just "God" doing his magic tricks in those labs? Maybe "God" is guiding those scientists? Haha. : )
winterstellar 3 weeks ago
@seemlyme billions of experiements each year?? so millions of experimens a day?? pretty sure ur pulling this out of ur arse mate.
Dead chemicals?? chemicals cannot live, they are simply existant.
all the natural examples you give are explained through mutation and natural selection. no god needed
haz020190 3 weeks ago
1) Absence of anything is nothing and the life is you, you can not come from nowhere so even god can not pop out from nowhere. You are like software and your body is like hardware of the computer, even god can not get anything from nothing especially you are the life. The Life has to come from life. You are a Spirit child of God.
2) God can not do the wrong things because god does not have the option to choose so the god is not capable of doing wrong things
3)time has no beginning & end. OK?
seemlyme 3 weeks ago
@seemlyme "God can not do the wrong things because god does not have the option to choose so the god is not capable of doing wrong things" Wrong how so? As in do evil? Harm people? Have you read the bible? "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 By creating evil is god not doing something wrong? I mean if I am judged by doing something wrong if I do evil should he not as well?
CtheWolfe 3 weeks ago
@CtheWolfe Listen you can't expect to be treated for doing something good if there wasn't an alternitive in the first place e.g: run away wid the money or return it" "save someone or let em weep" ect for all the good there must be evil why? for equalibrium god created us out of love BUT he wants us to LOVE him back. if he were to force us to love him we'd be like robots and it would not be the same. IT wouldn't be love it would simply be obeyin commands which is what we do but...
kidhypeness 2 weeks ago
@kidhypeness So why can he not openly show us his existence. Knowledge has nothing to do with free will. I mean if your god exists and loves me why does he never attempt to speak to me? Before you go off and say well you need to seek him... I will tell you I went to church for years have read the bible thoroughly and still nothing. I just do not believe your god exists. It would not impair my ability to disobey him if his existence was plain as day.
CtheWolfe 2 weeks ago
@CtheWolfe (read the other coment 1st plz) -but through the will of love that we CHOOSE to do out of freewill that good gave us in the first place. and out of freewill people choose not to worsship the lord. god also created satan who is names lucifer by god who was also given free will what did he do he created the underworld and attacks god by messin about wid his creation i.e us now heres why there is evil god gives us free will because he love us so we choose to worship and satan
kidhypeness 2 weeks ago
@kidhypeness I do not believe your god exists.... that does not mean I worship your satan.... Neither of them exist. There is evil because according to your god he created it. "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7. Evil is subjective. Your view of it is naive. Its not serve god or be evil.
CtheWolfe 2 weeks ago
@CtheWolfe (THIS IS THE 3RD COMMENT!) -and satan doesn't love us at all he hates our guts so he trys to take that freewill away from us by tauntin us with lust, drugs, alcohol ect so its doubely difficult to belive. it takes that leap of faith but look IF GOD DOES TOO MUCH WE BECOME DEPENDANT AND IF HE DOES TOO LITTLE WE LOSE FAITH any loving parent wants da best for there kids you wouldnt spoon feed them all there life and you would never turn your back on them if you love them
kidhypeness 2 weeks ago
@kidhypeness I'm sorry but you are a fucking retard if you think all the negative options in life are satan. You are seriously deluded. Knowing if god exists would be a start. You cannot be dependent on something that does not interact with you. I know my parents exist. Your god however has made no attempt to show me he exists or that he loves me. A simple chat every few years might help. But hey your god does not exist so I understand why he wouldnt do that.
CtheWolfe 2 weeks ago
GOD IS OUTSIDE OF LOGIC AND TIME AND BEYOND HUMAN COMPREHENSION !
kidhypeness 4 weeks ago
@kidhypeness and therefore outside of being taken seriously as anything more special than reality itself.
Thrashaero 3 weeks ago
@Thrashaero i dont even know what context your comment is in i can't tell if your tryin to be reasonal or just down right ignorant
kidhypeness 2 weeks ago
@kidhypeness ok let me clarify for you then. if ANYthing, including the concept of god, is outside of logic, time, and human comprehension, then it simply doesn't exist and is otherwise unworthy of commenting on, to the point that you don't have the ability to comment on it to be taken seriously. One could say "asdflk;ajsdf2" is outside logic, time, and human comprehension, and it would be the exact same thing: self-defeating blathering to say it's definition is undefinable.
Thrashaero 2 weeks ago
@kidhypeness
indeed...a god named God who creates the trees that kills the humans he created?
WHat a fucking retard!
transtlantic 3 weeks ago
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SuperMavs123 4 weeks ago
@SuperMavs123 These people wouldnt like to think that they can think, lol
xXsakkelaoXx 4 weeks ago
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SuperMavs123 4 weeks ago
I liked it, I was not able to tell if you were; pro Darwinism, or pro Creator? ...A true Teacher of knowledge will keep his personal opinion to himself, give you the facts and let you decide what the right answer is.
imunclefilthy 1 month ago
All the intelligence is useless once you;re dead. Forever dead. Why not put your intelligence on trying to study the evolution after death? sheesh!
sheffieldgeek 1 month ago
The smartest one in this world is all of us -- together.
eastariel 1 month ago
Nice video, but fuck the picture at 1:07. I'm a climate sceptic for the same reason I'm not a creationist: when I see natural phenomena, be they the evolution of species or climate changes, I don't automatically attribute it to a sentient being, be it god or man.
hayesism 1 month ago
@hayesism regardless of whether climate change is true or not has really nothing to do with the fact that energy efficiency is a good thing and questionable methods of managing it should be the focus. why people throw the baby out with the bathwater just because you don't like the methods chosen to deal with it? so be a skeptic or deny the problem it's associated with altogether? sounds kind of pointless. it's at least very possible, regardless if it's currently happening or not.
Thrashaero 2 weeks ago
@Thrashaero "regardless of whether climate change is true or not has really nothing to do with the fact that energy efficiency is a good thing" Hey, why not: Regardless of whether Christianity is true or not really has nothing to do with the fact that spirituality is a good thing and blah blah blah...
We hear these arguments all the time from Christians, and they're weak because the pursuit of truth should be the focus and straying from that because you like an ideology is anti-intellectual.
hayesism 1 week ago
@hayesism wrong comparison. energy efficiency and greenhouse gas control are good ideas, whether or not there will be an armageddon-like slow spiral into oblivion if there is no standards held to. christianity and spirituality have usually absolutely zero in common with each other and are entirely not quantifiable in any objective sense. What's anti-intellectual is for you to selectively skeptical about a theory, vs. every other fucking scientific theory in existence.
Thrashaero 1 week ago
@Thrashaero ...besides, if you think that our focus should be on energy efficiency (and you're honest with yourself) then you should definitely condemn solar and wind technologies and advocate fossil fuels, which remain by far the most efficient means of producing energy and are one of the few that don't require subsidisation.
hayesism 1 week ago
@hayesism that is fucking hilarious because last i heard, fossil fuels get massive subsidies. fossil fuels are by absolutely no means efficient when it comes to the drilling, refinement, transportation, and hazards associated with them vs a field of solar panels. try putting less crack in that pipe you're smoking.
Thrashaero 1 week ago
@hayesism fossil fuels "efficent?" That must be one of the funniest things I have ever heard. 200 years from now, they are going to look back and say, "How stupid were these people to base their entire worl economy on a resource that would run out?" Argument denoted.
xxMafia101 1 week ago
@xxMafia101 "How stupid were these people to base their entire worl economy on a resource that would run out?"
A lot smarter than you. The alternatives were wood and whale oil.
jeffiek 5 days ago
@jeffiek If that was ment to be an insult, I feel extremely sorry for you...
xxMafia101 5 days ago
The lactose feedback mechanism is a lousy example of decision making. Is absurd to argue Ecoli can "decide" whether to shut the operon on or off. Can you decide when to release insulin? If you could, there would be no diabetics. Your argument is ridiculous at best.
dejesusluisx 1 month ago
@dejesusluisx you are so right!
i don't get it why would somebody present such an argument????
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Rohitb8er 1 month ago
@Mr88playmaker Well I recommend one of two things for you either get a very good spell check that can form unutterable phrases from your keyboard into words or attend kindergarten and ask the teacher how to spell the word you
nickmcV123 1 month ago
This is really excellent. Too bad it is so hard to find this kind of logical thinking in the world today! I thought it was pretty well understood by now, but amazingly, there is a huge number of otherwise seemingly intelligent people out there who still prefer not to deal with it. My hat's off to you, whoever you are!
oldcokes 1 month ago
This video is nonsense,
1. Information is the communication or reception of KNOWLEDGE or INTELLIGENCE between an encoder and a decoder utilizing agreed upon symbols.
2. DNA contains symbolic INFORMATION.
3. Information is neither matter nor energy.
4, Matter does not bestow/assign MEANING to symbols.
5. Information ONLY arises from an Intelligent source (a mind).
This is why Evolutionists are so mad, and why atheists are LEAVING atheism at the rate of 300 adherents per day.
Mr88playmaker 1 month ago
The only known source of Information is a MIND. Only an MIND can bestow meaning to symbols.
DNA has destroyed the materialist theory, Darwin lived back in the 1800s ! Today a child can buy a cheap TOY microscope at WALMART many times more efficient than Darwin's old fashioned crap.. Darwin thought a cell was a SIMPLE blob of goo -a booger. Thanks to MODERN Science we know that the cell is a COMPUTER SYSTEM and that SYMBOLIC INFORMATION/language creates/WRITES & governs ALL-things biological-YOU!
Mr88playmaker 1 month ago
@Mr88playmaker "atheists are LEAVING atheism at the rate of 300 adherents per day."
A believer fabricating complete bullshit really has no bounds does it.
300 a day? Really? How many times did you change that number before deciding on 300 sounded good?
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
@Mr88playmaker Can't tell if trolling, or slightly retarded...
Davve941018 1 month ago
So how did anthropogenic global warming (AGW) deniers evolve? They're clearly not human.
mphello 2 months ago
I could keep arguing or go and put this time into my studies. I think the second one is better because my career is more important. Il let God deal with you on judgment day... After all he the ultimate judge
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
Your the joke lol you say your wanting to disprove everything and you cant even research the bible..,. Hence why you understand nothing from it.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
I already disproved your claims. Now i am just laughing at your face.
"research the bible"? give me a reason to research the bible, instead of Harry potter, just one.
Do you understand the Sutta Pitaka? or the Abhidhamma Pitaka?
any reason to read the bible over the budhist scriptures i just mentioned?
You really should study. Because the bible never done anything usefull for humanity.
You don't grow a garden by reading the bible, but a science book about evolution theory.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic i cant find other comments of u anymore but ok. for the few things that ive read i can state what ever does not matter what sciencetist "research" together. lie or truth u will always believe them. so actually this is so pointless because u are stubborn and i am. ill tell u this u know when we both know who was right?? when we both die. because ull never ever ever get the whole evolution theory as a fact. only parts of it are the rest is made up. but yea they are sciencetists ...
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
You can't find "more comments", because i see you as an uneducated tard, incapable of understanding anything above highschool level. It's useless to try reason with you, you are uneducated, stupid, retarded, and obviously you suffer some sort of psychiatric problem.
Your conspiracy crap is part of your pathology. You are insane.
Fuck off, and stop bothering educated people with crap unrelated to the video.
Can you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic funded by the richest people on earth why would they lie to u???? rich people does help us soo much. they are never corrupt either. and they sure as hell dont believ that the world is overpopulated and wnat to eliminate the lower species. i mean with lower species common humans with a common income like me and probably u and ur parents and ur family. but ur right they do care about u. a few then. the rich rich people dont give a shit if ur alive or if ur 10 feet beneath their feet
MrValidin 2 months ago
You cant even go and investigate the bible lol you sit and shout abuse and insults yet you cant use your "superior learning" to go and investigate the bible because u know ur wrong.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
the bible? lolol you are a joke. Why not Harry Potter? LOLOL I prefer to read about Scienc,e History, Art.
Your religious based fantasy is boring and very weak (afterall it was written by goat herders) lol
My "superior learning" was obtained by reading and practicing medicine during med school in order to cure or treat people.
The bible doesn't teach how to cure a pneumonia, but reading Harrison's 17th edition on the Evolution of AB resistance does help me and other doctors.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Why the bible? Nothing special about the bible. There are a million other books in the library to read. Far more interesting and far more deserving of attention. Way too much undeserved attention and time and energy wasted on the bible and koran.
mphello 2 months ago
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them, for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what he has made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
"wrath of God" - buy bull induced made up shit. evidence?
"revealed from heaven"? evidence?
You are shouting bible crap like a crazy ol' christian bible thumper. Don't you realize how silly do you sound? how retarded?
You have faith (trust in what there is no evidence for) in a fairy. and that has nothing to do with science.
AGAIN: where is an explanation to Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
answer, or fuck off.
transtlantic 2 months ago
Or read this!!! creationresearchDOTorg/crsq/articles/36/36_4/abiogenesisDOThtml
Oh wait... You woulnt cause u automatically think your right because you can read a book. Because you think anyone who a christian or creationist is uneducated. Sorry mate but its you thats uneducated if you cant look at all the information provided. Instead you reject it without looking at it or as you say you do "research"
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Abiogenesis is not Evolution. as any junior highschool kid knows.
I know i am right because i studied. Books do contain information. but has a medical doctor i also proved countless times that the knowledge i obtained has practical use, thus validated.
I already told you that ALL my grandparents have superior education, and they are all roman catholic, christians. And ALL of them understand that evolution is fact.
You are the one i am proving that is a retarded christian.
transtlantic 2 months ago
explorationfilmsDOTcom/exploration-films-incredible-creatures-3DOThtml
Thats right go buy some of them.... Oh wait you woulnt cause ur no scientist... Your a boy in denial that believes what he told... Yeh say i believe what im told cause yeh i do... After i find the evidence.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
exploration films are a business made by uneducated and unqualified people. they have no credibility.
The very bonbardier beatle claim of theirs was debunked multiple times.
Here is one of the papers that prove them wrong:
J Exp Biol. 2000 Apr;203(Pt 8):1265-75.
Spray mechanism of the most primitive bombardier beetle (Metrius contractus).
there are a couple more if you want them all.
oh right: you can barely read English, you are mentally challenged.
transtlantic 2 months ago
Right the fact your denieing to look at the list of over 700 scientists proves your incompetant and lol 20 years education? Thats not superior lol lol lol im only behind u by like 3 years lol. You refuse to look at links that we give you so your scared of what your going to find lol lol your a scared kid thats hiding in dark corner of a room lol i pitty you.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Why are you denying to look at the list of over 10,000 scientists proves that you are an incompetent fuck who has no education. But it's ok... i notice you still don't know what an ad populum fallacy is. LOLOL
What links? i asked for a link and you failed to provide one. Here is a proper recognized link:
Mol Biol Evol. 2003 Nov;20(11):1932-9. Epub 2003 Jul 28.
Early vertebrate evolution of the TATA-binding protein, TBP
why do you refuse to read the paper provide and counter argue?
transtlantic 2 months ago
Anyway i cant change the mind of the lost and damned... Only YAHWEH our God, Jesus Christ our God can. If your right then well dont matter at least i would have lived a good life... But if im right.... Then your in a lot of trouble ;-) Yahweh dont put people to hell... Only people put themselves to hell.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Joseph Atkison, actually he is a chemist, his Ph.D is in a field related to organic chemistry applied to pharmacology - he was never a biologist. He has no formal education on biology and is a retired old fuck.
Christa R. Kovel - chemistry isn't biology. no formal education on biology.
Lydia G - indeed qualified in Biology, funny how she publishes work that relates to Natural selection and random mutations...my guess is she doesn't even know she is part of the "List". lol
transtlantic 2 months ago
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@BigCalSuth
Ofc you can change anyone's mind as long as you have evidence to support your claims. "God" doesn't exist. you have no evidence for that crap.
Jesus is long dead scizophrenic guy.
"if i'm right"? pascal's wager? well...there over 9,999 claimed gods. You have the exact same chance of being right as a person who believes Ra is the creator.
So... I have MORE chances to be right than you. as i have 10,000 times chance to be more right than you.
transtlantic 2 months ago
Joseph Atkinson- Ph.D. Organic Chemistry,MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Christa R. Koval-Ph.D. Chemistry,University of Colorado at Boulder
Lydia G. Thebeau-Ph.D. Cell & Molecular Biology,Saint Louis University
Thomas M. Stackhouse-Ph.D. Biochemistry,University of California, Davis. Some people of the list of over 700 scientists.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
ofc superior education is superior. I have over 20 years of education, more than 3 in research, thousands of hours of practice. what do you have? lolol you clean floors! ffs!
You confuse common sense with being a sucker for snake oil.
Smart people have far more common sense than retarded shits like you.
I am right because i can prove it. You are Just another uneducated fuck holding to a God delusion.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Thomas M stackhouse, isn't a biologist, and his work mentions cancer research, where he mentions random mutations and explains efficiency of drugs according to Natural selection principles.
LOL i asked for 10 scientists. none of them is a Biologist by formal education, only 2 of them relate to Biology and of those 2 their work uses: random mutations and natural selection in order to explain their reasoning. LOLOL
As i said: you have jack shit. LOLOL not even a statement from them.
transtlantic 2 months ago
Then you have also not suplied evidence if i cant go and look at the papers you say you know. Roman catholicism is a cult so yeh... Ewehave explained speciation without evolution so no iv not contradicted. Obviously u not looked at the list of over 700 scientistsir otherwise you eould see the names and that they have PhDs. Problem with "superior education" is no itsnot superior and smart people tend to have no common sense and consider themselves right because they cant bear someone who not had
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Ofc i have supplied evidence. When you face a judge and he asks for evidence. You present things like this:
Whole-genome phylogeny of mammals: Evolutionary information in genic and nongenic regions
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2009 October 6; 106(40): 17077–17082.
How can't you look at the papers? all you have to do is google them, they are right there at PUBMED.
EVERY religion is a cult. All of them. You haven't explained speciation. Where is that explanation?
what list? PhDs?
transtlantic 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Hell...lolol more religious buy bull induced shit. LOLOLOL
so...AGAIN:
Can you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
Where were your 700 "scientists" during the Dover trial? LOLOL hiding? HA HA
you are stupid, retarded, purely and simply: a HUGE imbecile, is what you are. LOLOL my challenge is still up.
transtlantic 2 months ago
You automatically assume all christians are thick. So why is the head of the Genome project a christian?
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
The paper i provided comes from PUBMED. more than 500,000 peer-reviewed scientific papers proving, testing, experimenting with Evolution.
Papers from qualified experts, researchers, professionals.
While what you provided us with is a website written by unqualified shitheads who can't even understand what is a cell.
You provided no information, no evidence. Evidence comes with a reference, which i taught you what it is. it's not a hint to a anecdotal website. you ignorant shithead.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
most of my great grand parents, ALL of my gand parents, my parents and brothers, and myself, have superior education and most of them are roman catholic, christians. And no, they aren't thick. But you are. and no, they don't deny evolution is fact.
You are doing more red herring again.
AGAIN: Where's an explanation to Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
you ignorant, retarded, uneducated, unqualified, fucktarded moronic imbecile.
transtlantic 2 months ago
I dont deny speciation im happy to accept it when its seen without evolution. Real science is where you work away all the conflicting problems not absorb it by coming up with a idea. And tbh i think if you see someone has a PhD in biology then yah can basically see what they are trained in. However you dont have sense. Anyone can write what you wrote as a source. Even i could do that if i wanted but no i directed you to sites with the information and evidence which you refuse to look at.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Speciation is proof of evolution. so... you are contradicting yourself.
"when it's seen without evolution"? where? name a practical example. Real science also originates new conflicting problems as you discover more and more.
But you didn't name anyone with a PhD in biology.
"you dont have sense", that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Anyone can write what i wrote as a source and be correct. what you wrote isn't correct.
And i seriously doubt you can do what i did and do.
transtlantic 2 months ago
Iv just said two sources of evidence for two different things :-S i seriously doubt your ability to properly read anything that is written. Either that or your sooo stubborn that your right and over 700 scientists are wrong.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
This is a source of evidence:
PLoS Biol. 2005 Nov;3(11):e357. Epub 2005 Oct 11.
Emergence of young human genes after a burst of retroposition in primates.
Center for Integrative Genomics, University of Lausanne, Lausanne, Switzerland.
You can repeat the methodology and obtain the same results - empirical evidence. what you provided was a hint to a website written by uneducated fucks who can't even tell the difference between a cell or an atom.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
wait....ad populum argument? lolol seriously? plus an appeal to false authority.
From those 700 "scientists" why can't you name with formal education on scientific field related to Biology?
or...why not evidence presented by them?
You are full of shit, you retarded uneducated imbecile moronic shithead.
PLUS: where the fuck is the explanation to Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
you're going to deny speciation again? lolol you are a complete fucktard. LOL
transtlantic 2 months ago
If you want other wvidence then go to the creation science movment website for the meetings
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
so...what you are saying is that you have NO evidence. LOLOL
this is evidence for evolution:
Evolutionary Patterns of RNA-Based Duplication in Non-Mammalian Chordates
PLoS One. 2011; 6(7): e21466.
you still havent explained Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory. therefore your "creation science movement" is a bunch of useless uneducated fucks who can't do shit.
"creation science"?lol
at the Dover trial the judge ruled:
Evolution = fact
Creationism = religious nonsense.
transtlantic 2 months ago
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in dissentofdarwinDOTorg under the download heading is a list of over 700 scientists signing a acceptance to this following statment:-“We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
What is not usually realised is that philosophies that ignore God and start with mans thinking and logic can be shown to be ultimatly illogical and self-contradicting. If taken to the logical conclusion, evolutionists have no moral basis for their actions and wouldlive in fearful life of "survival of the fittest" and find every man to be their enemy.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
amazing how you claim there were meeting but you fail to provide evidence that any of them happened at all. LOLOL cretards and their made up stories. LOLOL
Where is your evidence to sustain your claims? inside a unicorn's arse again? LOLOLOL
"can be shown to be ultimatly illogical"? really? try show that on the following line of reasoning:
I observe no evidence for a god named God, therefore a god named God does not exist.
Where is the "self-contradiction"?
transtlantic 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Logical conclusion: Brains exist and stimulate and react to the environment. thus actions are explained.
everyone is fearful of "survival of the fittest", it's innate.
EVERY man is a potential enemy. ask a rape victim.
EITHER WAY: can you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
you can't? i observe no evidence to believe in your useless creationism then.
now fuck off, you lost already. you ignorant and uneducated fucktard.
transtlantic 2 months ago
Since 1965 there been 3 mathematician and evolutionist meetings on the lack of time available even with the millions of years you claim for random mutation to form a complexity such as humans or even bacterium. These meetings were very acrimonious and almost came to blows. In one meeting they agreed not to publish their proceedings in order to give creationist ammunition.... So much for openness of science :-)
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
since when, what? care to provide evidence for one single of those claimed "meetings"? who was there, when it happened? sources? references? you are obviously lying again.
Random mutations happen all the time. Ask a medical doctor.
"form a complexity"? that's a failed argument. "complexity" is a very subjective and relative expression. Humans can't live inside a nuclear reactor, but some bacteria can, therefore why aren't those bacteria more complex? i would say they are.
transtlantic 2 months ago
For humans to grow 'wings' we must first become 'flying squirrels'. We would ALL have to spend our time jumping from tree to tree. Nature would favour those with fine frames, light bones, good power to weight ratios. A few million years later we might see flaps of skin appearing under our arms. Those with better flaps would 'survive' and pass on our successful mutation. After another few million years later those able to flap their flappy arms effectively would survive to pass on those genes...
MrRouXRenard 2 months ago
@MrRouXRenard ok if we want to research this process ill need a guiniepig. ill take u; u can flap ur arms for as long as u live. u wont get any new information to receive wings in garantuee u that. few millions years?? who is setting the time for evolution to happen???
MrValidin 2 months ago
There is no need to go against creationists. They told me that the universe is expanding, back when I was in school. Expanding into what? There are things we can only wonder about. I am not saying that there must be a creator. I am saying that the infinite list of creators you provided are just as baffling as the concept of eternity, Universe expansion, and so on.
franklottar 2 months ago
@franklottar
"just as baffling"? not at all... because while a universe expanding is factual. a list of creators is mere product of imagination.
i prefer to trust in what there is evidence for.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic I would not choose the word "believe" my friend. Thank you for responding. I would argue that facts are really important; but then again, there must be always new ways of organizing and connecting those facts; it is not a matter of looking for a New Dictatorship or an authority. Knowledge and facts are only tools in human understanding; they cannot replace reality. They are an image of reality...And you left the concept of eternity out. Thank you again for writing.
franklottar 1 month ago
@franklottar
"replace reality"? but a fact is, by definition, something that describes a part of reality.
transtlantic 1 month ago
@transtlantic If it were so clean-cut then Science would be a corpus of dogma.
A fact in Science and a fact in other areas has a different value. A fact is only valued as it is integrated into a theory. then again when a theory topples down it is usually linked to a new arrangement of facts.
Human language is just that; language, abstraction, not the thing per se.
franklottar 1 month ago
And when you figure out we have then you will understand... Or is it your trying to create a circular motion as to avoid been challenged on more of your philosophy? All you are actually doing right now is shouting abuse and insulting people. So if your smarter than us and not retarded yourself then you wouldnt be shouting abuse
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
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@BigCalSuth
You are not even making any sense at all....
shouting abuse? you are mentally challenge, you retard. It's obvious you are dumber than a dog.
transtlantic 2 months ago
What REAL science does is finds out What, When, Where etc..... But can never explain Why. The bible says Why
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Ofc it can explain Why:
Why do we observe species changing into new species? Evolution.
Why don't we observe a god named God? because fairies do not exist.
Why some ppl believe in a god named God? according to the latest research: people with a lower level of education have a tendency to believe in the supernatural, just like kids who believe in santa. Ignorance = religious beliefs.
My challenge is still up: how do you explain Plant speciation w/out using evo theory?
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic bigcalsutch dont bother anymore talking to him. i will say 1 more thing to u my friend. an eternity in heaven is longer than 80-90years here on earth. let them think how they want. god gave us all a own choice. no matter how stupid some people are with believing everything that there high superintelligent scienctist say
MrValidin 2 months ago
Lol sorry but even Stephen Hawking agrees with it been finite and the universe had a beginning and he a athiest ;-)
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Stephen Hawking is not a biology. And no, he doesn't agree with a finite universe and with a beginning. I've read all of his mainstream books. He clearly states a multiverse theory and an infinite existence.
Even his "beggining" claims is on the context of superstring colision, compatible with the multiverse hypothesis.
You clearly shouldn't try that line of argument. I can start spamming quotes of Prof Hawking supporting my claims.
transtlantic 2 months ago
God is a being that is without begining and without end. Our simple human minds cannot understand God fully. No science will tell why God has existed without beginning or end.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
Well scientists have determend that time if finite so it had a begining meaning something has to create time which means a God outside time and space is perfectly possible
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
wait...where are those scientists stating what you claim? "time if finite"? but no one has determined that.
There is no "outside". you are just making stuff up.
God doesn't exist, you have no evidence for that fairy.
What science DOES is prove that you can't explain plant speciation w/out using evolution theory.
thus...creationism fails.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic evolution and every other thing science offers state that everything needs a beginning. why not time??
how do u know tehre is no outside? ooh yea wait ur perfect all knowing sciencetist probably measured it wit xenon dating or something?
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
Even if there is an outside, that doesn't mean it has influence on the inside. "eternity in heaven"? why not hell? how do you know any of that crap is real?
Your bible crap has nothing to do with science. Evolution theory doesn't destroy your faith, your own ignorance is what is the problem.
Evolution is observed EVERYWHERE on earth. Plant speciation, AB resistance, diversity in our heights, ears, nose, etc. DIVERSITY is living proof that evolution is a fact.
now fuck off.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic did i say i know its real? i believe its real just like u believe but wont admit the same about evolution. there are many scienctific facts stated in the bible if ur scienctist would have read the bible instead of preaching evolution then tehre would be less dead people in the past. with there thinking that in blood the disseases are. thats how a former president died in amerika. but its all in the bible.
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
"i believe it's real"; if you have no evidence for, you can't claim it's real. You are lying. And no, Evolution is as much a fact, as Gravity or Atoms are. It's like a rock, you can deny the existence of the rock, but it will remain a rock, no matter what you believe in.
The bible is a fiction book. It has as many facts as the harry potter books. I don't like to read folk lore.
Actually...evolution theory is applied in medicine, so it saves lifes.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic ok u believe evolutions is a fact and that no matter what i say it cant be changed. now i say to u god a fact. doesnt matter how much scienctists will proove that evolution is right they cant change whats real and when everything happens how the bible predicted it then ull be in serieus trouble. if it wont happen and evolution is true than i got lucky 2 because nothing will happen with me. parts of evolution theory about our dna that is true is probably used in medicine ...
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
I am sorry, but it's obvious you are dumb, uneducated and moronic. You won't understand basic science. no matter what. You are to fucking stupid to figure out the difference between an atom or a cell.
Real: Evolution.
Fantasy: bible crap.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@MrValidin
And god is a lie. And all the different stories people make up about gods are lies.
And they take these stories and modify them a little, throw in some references to real historical events, and make up further lies. The Battle of Troy.
Religionists cannot do the hard mental work and concentrations that scientists do.
Because they are lazy.
mphello 2 months ago
@mphello u believe that god is a lie because there are so many lies about "gods" thats 1 of the methods they use to deceive people.
they take story's that really happend and they modify it for their own so people dont know wich one is correct. thats another method.
i hope u know there are creationist sciencetists?? u know why they dont publish much? because the evolution scienctists are sponsored by the rich and the rich want u to believe in evolution so they can let there plans come true.
MrValidin 1 month ago
@transtlantic but major evolution is a assumption. again evolution has facts how everything works. but they put lies into there evolution theory because u already believe everything they say soo u will believe tehre lies 2. and i think there is evidence in the bible on how to save people. with medical science.
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
"assumption"? WHAT assumption?
Sci China Life Sci. 2010 Jun;53(6):677-82. Epub 2010 Jul 3.
Motilin and ghrelin gene experienced episodic evolution during primitive placental mammal evolution.
transtlantic 2 months ago
However, if the oppisote is true, and something can be created out of nothing, which is what they are arguing, then God can be created out of nothing...
The theory of God works both ways.
If something was not able to be created out of nothing, again, The theory of God works.
I believe it begins with God. You can believe it begins with science, but it's the same thing, the arugment of God still exists. His arugment doesn't work either way, at least not to cancel out the possiblity of God.
LynellePoet 2 months ago
@LynellePoet You are quite mistaken sir. If God is created out of nothing, then he/she/heshe is a mere result of the big bang or from the quantum fluctuations. God would have no more or no less powers than what physics dictates. If God had a creation, and that source be the big bang, then God would have to adhere to the laws of physics and nature and observations just like everything else. If such a case be, then why call him God. He would just be another cosmic anomaly.
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That was in a program from a while back and i cant recall its name. Hiwever here a link fir a site showing the problems you deny in carbon 14 dating-wwwDOTangelfireDOTcom/mi/dinosaurs/carbondatingDOThtml
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
That was in a program from a while back and i cant recall its name. Hiwever here a link fir a site showing the problems you deny in carbon 14 dating-wwwDOTangelfireDOTcom/mi/dinosaurs/carbondatingDOThtml
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
Yet a mammoth skeleton found and they dated two bones from it. One dated at 22,500 years and the other at 44,000 years... Thats results from your dating either its really bad or wow..... Thats a long pregnancy ae?
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Who dated what? where is the reference? sources? I seriously doubt your stories. you are just making stuff up again.
PLUS: you have yet to explain Plant speciation w/out using evo theory.
trust me. this challenge presented by me, is not going away.
transtlantic 2 months ago
Oh my goodness some people that recon they are so smart are actually soo thick. You clearly missing that the analogy is of a dying theory called evolution you idiot. Its inagination that is falsified in many ways. Your analogy of a conpany prospering is crap because thats not natural selection because the prospering company could go under and the smaller one can take over.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
Or we dont follow it because evolution is a bunch of fools nursing a skeleton saying he still ok keep going when he dead. Where the creation model is been supported more and more where evolution... Less and less
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
Lawl? Natural selection is a real thing and can be seen in almost every area of life. EG, companies sell something, the best company will prosper, and the others will diminish. It has also been proved that mutations randomly occur. Therefore the best mutations succeed.
And your analogy is wrong. The idea of nursing back a skeleton implies that it was once alive. So what, evolution was right, but now its wrong? and where is the new proof fro creationism that you are referring to?
theonethatthinks 2 months ago
Cretards obviously don't follow this video because they have no intelligence.
Casshyr 2 months ago
Apparently humans have been hear fir about 250,000 years yes?.... So why is there only about 5000 years of recorded history?... Which fits with the bible by the way.
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@mrvalidin i remember mentioning ages ago about having 50% from mum and 50% from dad which makesup our 100% DNA. Also 100% of DNA is lost from the other 50% from each parent that didnot make it so that would be loss of genetic information yes?
BigCalSuth 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth thats a possibility but again we cant know that its an assumanation. i really cant tell if thats the way how information would be lost but its a good reason. for we wont get the full information of both of our parents but we only get 50% of each. im not a sciencetist and i do think thats something u can study.
MrValidin 2 months ago
@BigCalSuth
"loss of genetic information"? nope. Your parents are still alive, aren't they? do you have brothers? do they have brothers? The Homo sapiens has been around for 250,000 years.
there's actually more 80,000 years of recorded history. Cave painting, for example: have over 30,000 to 35,000 years.
the bible is a fiction book. 5,000 years ago it was 3,000 B.C., lolol i visited temples in Egypt older than that. you ignorant tard.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic i know how scienctist dates fossils. and there dates arent correct. they only use the variations of dates they get from 1 fossil thats fits in there geologic scale. eeeuh how do they date cave paintings???? date written under the paintings? eeuh egypt dates were messud up. the calendars they used arent the ones like we use so there dates are all wrong.
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
Obviously you don't know how dating techniques work. Their dates are quite correct. as proven.
1 fossil? only? LOLOL not at all. they use the atom decay in order to measure the time passed.
"how do they date cave paintings", usually those painting have heavy metals that allows to measure the "decay" time of the paint. You are just trying to present a red herring.
and FACT IS: still no explanation to Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory.
dates are all right.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic as proven by who?? ooh yea by the ones that believe in evolution duh. i ment for that fossil to make it understandeble xp. atom decay = carbon dating?? no i just wanted to know how they dated the paint cavings xp. well if its with carbon dating then the dates are incorrect. because the equilibrium in the universe hasnt been reached yet. there is still more carbon made by natural processes then there is carbon degraded. but they dont tell u that in their science textbooks do they??
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
Equilibrium in the universe? what the fuck are you talking about? carbon made? it's atom decay from higher isotopes! You clearly are a complete fail at basic chemistry.
I am talking about Evolution, because LIVING organisms are part of biological evolution.
Creationism has no part in any debate because it's buy bull induced shit. it's not science.
"bigger than our debates"?
lolol you sound like a RETARD. you can't debate with anyone.
transtlantic 2 months ago
@transtlantic living organismes are part of biologie thats correct. part of evolution? thats ur BELIEF. well keep saying that keep telling god isnt real. i really dont care anymore. people like u that are to stupid to suck up everything someone else says because they studied are the most ignorant people ive ever met.
MrValidin 2 months ago
@MrValidin
Moron...Evolution is fact. It's a phenomena observed in ALL living organisms. doesn't matter if you believe in it or not. Gravity, atoms, evolution are still fact, even if you want to deny them.
Evolution has nothing to do with saying God isn't real. God isn't real because there is no evidence for one.
"they studied more"...yeah...that's so bad, right? LOLOLOL
Ignorant? LOLOL you are a fucking imbecile! LOLOL you think YOU are better? LOLOL
"everything needs a beginning"? like what?
transtlantic 2 months ago
@MrValidin
Whenever you make up one of your bullshit conspiracy theories as to why creationists don't get their worthless shit published in respectable peer-reviewed science journals, you'd damned well better have PROOF. But you have none. And neither do creationists.
And you'd damned well better start complaining about the BILLIONS of dollars CHURCHES have, and THEM being rich, and having 4 different fucking religious channels airing on my cable tv all the time.
mphello 1 month ago