The hard (over) working middle class has often put down the low wagers, but soon their illusions will shatter. They will whine, cry, march, and then organize to eliminate the land-housing-profit scam. Eventually the military boy-scouts will realize that they are protecting the biggest thieves in history - Banksters.
Unemployment under Reagan hit 10.8% in 1982 -- higher that it has ever been under Obama, even though Obama is facing a much worse overall economic situation.
We should adopt another system rather than be bound by money. I don't thnik its fair as people who are unemplyed have nothing and that is discriminating against people due to things that are not their fault. i think a points based system would be better. everybody gets basic need provided by default but earns points for the more luxury stuff. at the end of the day the government take crude oil which money never created and belongs to the earth. free the people of this planet.
@ronheri: You are RIGHT-ON!!! I agree with you 100%!! How much longer will Americans take this nonsense?!! It will take a revolution to change things!!
America did things that beyond of it's power. Invaded afghanistan and ıraq, which has cost trillions of dolars so far. Government budget turned upside down, invades caused huge deficits, debts are like mountain, nation's credit note is going to downgrade, unemployment can't be reduced. It's time act sensible for america.
The american dream is as dead as dr. kevorkian and the rich ceo who failed my commpany who laid me off is certainly not on life support or seaking the former doctors services. I have a degree and it does not iinvolve asking if ya want fries with that.
This may be one reason for unemployment now. Check out this video on YouTube about immigration and the world poor: "Immigration by the Numbers -- Off the Charts" Watch it and let me know what you think.
I was able to retire this year, but my fucking boss fired me last year so now I have to wait until I'm 56 before I can collect my retirement (10 additonal years).
Did you know that the fedeal goverment is allowed to discriminate against their judiciary employees and there is nothing that the employee can do about it? What if this was allowed in the public sector? Googe Can federal employees sue federal goverment for wrongful termination.
Where is this guy getting his BS numbers from?? I bet he's making this shit up as he goes along. The only thing he said right was about McDonald's. He forgot to memtion that McDonald's hired 62,000 from thier 14, 000 locations. That's about 4 or 5 new hires per location!!!
The dumbfuck was DEAD right until he started talking about 'the highest corporate tax rate' is BULLSHIT. It would be right IF corporations actually PAID that rate, but the ACTUAL intake from corporations is one of the world's LOWEST. The problem is not 'too much regulation' that is a LIE. There is not ENOUGH regulation that holds these leech-like corporations accountable and make sure they paid their fair share, only give tax breaks when they KEEP Americans employed and don't ship jobs overseas.
People should be creative & do what i did. 4 years ago i was unemployed. i noticed how easily churches got money from their congregation, & tax-free status from the government, so I started a Christian ministry. Now I have 200 people in my congregation, all giving me money. Some even sign over their welfare checks, lol! See my channel.
Listen the situation is simple, the goverment shouldn't be this big they should not have bases in all these countries and recruit people at outlandish pay for it, they destroyed us :(
i thought we had a labour shortage? plumbers, masons, mechanics and machinists. not fucking bugger-flipper and ''lowe-iense'' greeters....i was lied 2 in high school.
Ron Paul in 2012. We need his honesty, and his respect for personal freedoms. I hope the American people are wise to the fact that the country is going down fast.
The Downfall is coming. And it won't be gentle, and alot of chaos. I see another Civil War on the horizon with the collapse of the American Dollar. Soon it will happen. So it's time to decide what side of the fence you will be on. Learn how to fire a rifle and some squad level tactics.
Common Humans, . look at the things which happened in Egypt and other Muslims countries. When people are united, no dictatorship, no government, and no army can stop them. With the internet today we can spread the word much faster and easier the 15 years ago, and I truly believed that when human will start to work together towards that goal, it will happen. It’s a matter of healthy will and nothing more. you can see everthing we need in "Zeitgeist Moving Forward" and "The Venus Project".
Yes, if the US is such a bad place to do business, how do we equate that with the massive profits the large corporations are now making (and I might add - pay no taxes).
The truth is, the tax code, like everything else, is stacked to milk the middle class, and to do it in such a way that at the same time they can attack us frontally in the work place and busting the unions.
It matters very little at this point really. The crash is immenent. Its just when, not if.
Utah is returning to gold and silver as legal money and other states are looking at it. This is a positive sign that may aid our effort in saving our nation from these treasonous political hacks and the banksters/Federal Reserve/Wall Street that own them.
The real terrorists are the Democrats, Republicans and the blind, willfully ignorant, and lazy Sheep who have brought us to this nightmare after decades of corruption, lies, fraud and silence of the Sheep.
As George Carlin said, "the reason they call it the american dream,is you have to be asleep to believe it". Our monetary system being in constant change by printing more and more cash base on nothing but faith continues to erode the value and as wages fall, worth even less then the year before. Brought to you by the federal reserve since 1913. The house of cards owns us. It's Time for states to kick the government out and start over.
@BohemianNightmare You dumbfuck. 1913? Sorry, the game was changed with the deregulated stock market crash in 1929 and THE NEW DEAL saved us. What is fucking our country is REAGANOMICS (trickle down, lower taxes = more jobs, etc.) which is a FUCKING LIE. IT DOES NOT WORK. Other countries with higher taxes, better economies, and first-world benefits (healthcare, retirement, affluent jobs, low unemployment, etc.). prove this.
@electronicoffee You stupid brainwashed motherfucker, quit reading those books by your mainstream dis-info artist to distract you from the truth, bring it bitch! Try reading Jekyll Island about the 1913 implementation of the Federal Reserve.
@BohemianNightmare Better yet, work your trade for low wages for 25 years like I did then start a business of your own only to find out that for a Corporation, even for a small contractor person like me has to form to be in business costs tons of tax money. This fed has attached to my bank account and takes money whenever it wants. One missed tax payment and I'm fucked and shut down. Talking of 'corporations' in general is ludacris. I made 60k but paid 20k in taxes in 2007, and not a dime since.
@BohemianNightmare This current failure happened when the old gov was kicked out and a new age ushered in by Obama and his ridiculous neophyte zealots, so whats plan B then?
the real rate is about 22% +. This whole argument is irrelevant and void. A man who trusts Bernanke and Geithner is a fool. The people perish for lack of knowledge,
This is just my personal opinion but it’s high time ALL of the unemployed demonstrate, en masse, because this country is bull$hit. Lynchings in Washington DC is also long overdue.
We all need to stop being polite, stand up and say “I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!”
The American Dream left this country with NAFTA. It will take a revolution, like the ones going on in the middle east to take our country back from the criminal banksters. Americans are mad as hell and armed to the teeth. We will see...
@ronheri I think white Americans will just continue blaming Mexican immigrants and muslims. They're blinded by their vacuous, consumerist culture. They probably won't turn against their masters anytime soon.
Many great comments, but political philosophy and activism doesn't necessarily put food on your table. While we are working on the root of the problem, may I recommend a book I have recently completed titled, "GET A GREAT JOB FAST" which I'm offering for free on the website associated with my account? The strategies helped me get a job in this bad economy and I believe it can help you too. I published it after going through the same thing as everyone else out there. Best wishes.
You could probably throw out that last statistic as a possible outcome. These projections about wealth stratification in the future don't take revolution into account.
It's time to run things from a scientific life-ground perspective.
Politics, Economics and Religion have failed miserably
Off topic a bit but, why dont we just tell the fed to stick the debt where the sun dont shine, fire all them assholes, take it over, and start over back on the gold standard?
@goldsilverandiamonds for how long do you think? Another ... 6 months? At most? I doubt it. Enjoy beating your chest with pride while under the brainwashed illusion that us is a good country to live in. I'll make sure to post on your wall your own comments once the us economy collapses.
RT is shit media. it doesn't show what happen to christian in egypt?? are you really orthodox christian russia???? why do you ignore the incident that's happening in egyptian christian church??? you only focus on revolution in egypt. you hypocrite secular media!!!!
I hope are numbers don't get as low as Russia's and Socialist Europes.........THAT WOULD BE REALLY BAD..........But on the GOOD side even with being in the worst recession in 70 years the U.S. is still the largest most powerful economy in the world!!!!
Useless debate. Unemployment numbers are fake as well as Ladin's death and Barry Soetoro's birth certificate. Or is there somebody who sincerely believes the data produced by the government?
Yo yeah work at MC D's oh yeah that's Job growth. Minimum wage jobs. Not enough money to live under the bridge. We need to focus on lowering the cost of living. This guy is good.
You know why McDonald's is hiring? It's because it's the only food people can afford. So course, it's booming. Walmart? Same reason, no one can shop for mid line products, Walmart offers to the low income which is the majority right now. So course, they are booming cause it's all people can afford.
THE US Government have not done correct statistics...they have no clue about middle class and poor who are homeless in tent cities and unemployed families living with families. They need to mail out questionnaires and take down what people think, comments and opinions. They pass their own laws, without US Citizen input!
Mr. Soros said it great, "1st thing, destroy their countries economy. Then tell the workers there's higher benefits in the military. Then start a false flag war, & voila;
"instant help for our causes"! (What they DON'T tell you is this; "kill any one via a lie, & YOU are a m-u-r-d-e-r-e-r''! And then there's that chit about Karma, ya it's true too.....)
SNYDER is a bullshit MF. China makes American Manufacturers in China pay a 50% partnership fee to the Chinese Government. It is not a tax, it is a partnership fee (wink, wink). YouTube "Linfen China" to see what no regulation looks like. Close the borders to imports, end NAFTA, end Free Trade. See how fast the bastard manufacturers return to the USA. MR. SNYDER shut your Neo/Con hole.
headed for armed struggle...... fuck your I phones, American Idol,bs news and propaganda fluff.......this era will mark the beginning of an American guerilla movement, youll see. ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE
@telemanque I've seen what bullets and shrapnel do to people too many times and it's NOT a pretty sight (dead children and broken hearted moms and dads). I hope and pray it doesn't come to that. I have to prepare for the worst and keep working for the best. I keep telling myself "this is America and we are all Americans" but then I do remember the Rodney King riots and I see tha bad side of people on an almost daily basis with my job which is a good reity check.
"Starting your own business...where is that going"
Government; through regulation - fees - taxes - licensure - etc, has essentially assured that new business potential in America is not profitable and not plausible.
@helltrackrider You just NAILED IT !!! I've been looking into starting a gym locally as I have a perfecr potential location (as you know they say: location, location, location) BUT the regulations, insurance, taxes, overhead expense would wipe me out even though I would have plenty of ciients that would be good paying customers so I'm not willing to take the chance.
True...but you cant get fined if you cant start anything...
Although, in my City - as a resident - you get fined for not noticing the City that you are hosting a Garage Sale...Gotta Love that!!!...And, you can only host 3 per year; anymore and you must have a sales tax license.
@helltrackrider you're wrong. the USA has the LEAST amoung of regulations among all democratic captialistic countries. Why do you think companies get away with murder, polition, labor law violations, union busting and so on... ???
Funny...name ONE part of the private business world that is not in any way regulated, licensed or prohibited by the Government...
Also; Capitalism doesn't exist anywhere one Earth...so, try not to use the term - you may lead people to believe that todays economic failure is Capitlaism; as you have been led to believe.
Decades of dumbing down in schools (training in narcissism; elimination of critical thinking) has prepared the public to be economically illiterate, preparing them to accept the incremental implementation of socialism (gulags, forced confessions, citizens spying on citizens) which comes as a result of crony capitalism (anti-free market). Millions of boys forced to take drugs, presecution of non-atheists, promotion of rape, perversion and Planned Abortionhood.
@helltrackrider um...i think you are a little confused, see our economy is under imperial capitalism or imperialism, which mutated out of free market capitalism. socialism is about the people being the state and owning the means of production and democratically controlling them. does that sound like anything we are experiencing in the united states? im gonna say no.
If the means and production is controlled by the State; limited by the State; manipulated by the State - wont even go into the process of purchasing the products or paying for the production...this is not Capitalism.
Capitalism has NOT existed in America since day one...it cannot exist with government determined currency, manipulated and controlled interest rates, regulated production - which manipulates the supply; regardless of the demand.
What solutions did your little cute socialism bring? It was a direct way to tyranny and dictatorship, poverty and mass slaughter and totalitarism. Socialism is nonsense, it doesn't work on this planet. Period. Even capitalism works better than your socialism.
You are one of those 18 year old anarchist hipster gayrights activists? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Die already hipster gayass.
@Ruisleipa77 oh capitalism has brought us so much, riding on the coat tails of human ingenuity while exploiting both whole populations and resources for the sole purpose of profit. you mean what has supposed socialist countries who degenerated under the weight of stalinism and relapsed into state capitalism. socialism is further and foremost about democracy, politically and economically. a state in which industry is owned by and democratically run by the people. they weren't socialist in truth.
Always this same identical bullshit conversation, just look at your wonderfull Koreas and China and Stalin and all these murderers. How wonderfull and free it was. People starved to death because "everything belong to everyone", in practice to the government. This just don't work how many billion examples do we need?
You are under mass social experiements, masscontrol and brainwash - FUCK MAO!
@Ruisleipa77 according to trotskyism these are not socialist countries, but deviations of it. they are considered degenerated worker's states, the reason for their degeneration was because of the centralization of government and the resulting increasing of bureaucracy. socialism in principle is about the people owning and democratically controlling industry, if its not socialist in principle it is not in practice.
@metalgearanarchist. People confuse a social democracy with socialism. They aren't the same. I imagine the quality of life in Finland, Austria, Germany, is much better than the USA.
Being that Capitalism relies on voluntary exchange; how can voluntary interaction be considered "exploiting"?
Afterall...by your use of the term "exploit" - one could say that BOTH parties are exploiting each other...the consumer exploits the producers as they derive benefits from the product or service consumed...do they not?
Capitalism is equality for the consumer and the producers; both are recipients of gains in every exchange.
@helltrackrider in reality the producer and consumer are the same, they are both exploited equally. the exploitation comes from the fact that those who produce dont own what they produce. that it is owned by the company and the one who benefits from the sale of the product is always the owners of the company. the value of labor is smaller compared to the surplus value of capital generated by the products sale. the relation between producer and consumer is thus alienation.
1) The "Company" - in a free market - makes voluntary arangements with the employees that "produce" a product or service ... should those employees feel that they can offer the same at a much more effecient and reasonable price point, what is to stop them from doing so on their own?...nothing - aside from liability for the product producedd or service offered
@helltrackrider the difference between Capitalism and Socialism is ownership, under the former the company owns what labor produces and benefits the more from its sale than the worker. under the latter the workers own what they produce and benefit the most from its sale. basically the workers are the owners and there is no owner independent thereof.
...and when you remove the ownership from the individual and place it in the "Common" or "Public" ... this is a transfer of voluntary to compulsion; an economy / society cannot be voluntary without ownership of property ... If you do not own any tangible property, the idea of "voluntary agreements" are out the door as you have no right to make the decisions of the property - and with voluntary gone; that leaves in-voluntary = compulsion.
2) In a free market - which capitalism is - patents, copyrights and IP rights do not exist as they are not property...fraud and slander would still be existing forms for retribution.
3) Given that "companies" would want to protect their idea, product or service - almost certainly ownership of the company for employees would be a result of the market - assuming the employees want to voluntarily accept ownership - b/c with ownership comes responsibility.
Thus...the voluntary relationship between the producer and consumer is not exploitation - its is an arranged agreement between two parties of which BOTH parties are recieving benefits from...if both parties were not benefiting, the agreement would not take place.
Socialism, on the other hand, is compulsion - not voluntary...as an individual, you are forced to accept the services offered even though you may not wish those services - because it is "for the common good"
Hint...look for the term "Common" or "Public" and you can ultimately say; this is compulsion.
Lets say America decided tomorrow ... we want "Socialism"...how is it not compulsion to EVERY entity in the economy? They will have to alter their current state, current market share, current revenue rates, shit...everything that set them apart individually...this is by force.
Under Capitalism; individual choices determine who you are; not forced social equality.
@metalgearanarchist Lets look at Socialistic America... 1) War 2) Public Education 3) Postal Service 4) Public Transit / Highways 5) Social Programs 6) Military Industrial Complex 7) Community funded Fire and Police 8) The list goes on... do I want to participate?...Maybe / Maybe not...am I forced to via taxation and imprisonment?...Yes.
@helltrackrider though we have Socialistic programs, that doesnt mean were are truly socialist. if you look at who has the most influence in government, it sure isn't the people as it would be under socialism. Corporate America and Wall st have all the influence and all the current efforts of the union busting is to get rid of organize labor which is the only thing preventing the corporations from having complete domination over industry. what America is experiencing is Coporatism, not Socialism
regardless of who has the influence...the outcomes of the stolen wealth are used for two things; forced equality and the "common" benefit...as it is under socialism.
Corporate America only has the influence it does due to a communistic/socialistic political approach ... take wealth to redistribute it - the corporations have a say in where the wealth is redistributed; military - medical - regulatory - education - transportation - social programs - etc...
@helltrackrider Coporate America has the influence it does cause the government has been bought off by them as with everything else, it has nothing to do with redistribution of wealth or socialism. second, socialism doesn't force equality, it gives it no strings attached. the government has been taxing the poor and middle class to support the wealthy and that is not socialism. socialism is a society in which industry and financial establishments are owned by and democratically run by the people.
"industry and financial establishments are owned by and democratically run by the people"
"Collectivism"...a society where the individual is non-existent; thus - all interactions are regulated for the benefit of "the people"...any interaction which is unregulated would typically be deemed as illegal activity ... see drugs and prostitution in todays collectivist society; every "legal" interaction has numerous regulations behind it or the goods / services being offered.
@helltrackrider do you honestly think that a "free market" can regulate itself? America started out under the principles of the "free market" and the unrestricted growth of capital allowed for the formation of monopolies. your "free market" is more utopian than any brand of socialism has projected.
America started under the Constitution - which allows for theft (taxation), copyrights protection and the issuance of the currency...this has nothing to do with a "free market" - quite the opposite.
Also, the monopolies that formed were through the regulation and protection of the government itself - in railways, coal mining and shipping to name a few...in a free market scenarion; subsidies, tax breaks, copyrights / patents, regulation, licensure, etc do not exist
All these forms of regulation and protection by the government lead to monopolies - not the self regulation and practices within a free market.
The free market would regulate itself...outside influences and compulsions are what causes turbulance and cycles within the market place...see the dot com boom/bust, the housing boom/bust as two key examples...supressed interest rates and fractional reserve banking rob the middle/lower class and make the rich extremely wealthy
@helltrackrider the federal reserve is a central bank it has no connection with the government, its completely independent. all the regulations that are placed on the economy are done so in agreement with the wealthy elite. you have to understand that the economy is being engineered to benefit the wealthy elite not middle america or the working class. the problem with capitalism is that a small group of people have ownership of production, everyone should be entitled to be a owner of production.
In a voluntary economy - as Capitalism is - everyone is entitled to own his/her production ... that person just has to take the initiative and potential risk to achieve ownership ... or work out a contractual agreement with the party that is paying for his/her labor...how is this a bad / evil / unacceptable system?
@helltrackrider how? first of all the markets are too unstable, they fluxuate too rapidly for any long term economy to exist. second, without any regulation of the economy to provide stability and prevent the consolidation of monopolies we would just revert back to what we are fighting against now. and third, private ownership means that businesses will do what is good for the business, like out-sourcing, lay-offs and pay cuts, thats why im in favor of public ownership.
You "argument" - if you can call it that - is based on your opinion, not evidence...and to compare what we are fighting against now to capitalism is ridiculous...capitalism is nowhere around; the monopolies today can be 100% accredited to government interference (regulation) of the economy...not due to natural market occurances...it is almost impossible to show with evidence that monopolies will occur in a true free market...
business will do what is good for business - of course; what you fail to mention is that keeping happy, healthy and intellegent employees is also good for business ... so, if a business has employees that meet their needs - pay cuts, outsourcing and lay-offs will not occur ... the market will determine the worth of ones labor relative to the service or product created; not the business...if the business tries - others will step in and acquire more market share.
@helltrackrider you say others will step in? whose others? also if the markets are not regulated what would prevent abuses or manipulation of the markets? economic regulation of the economy didnt really start till the reforms of the great depression era. the great depression was caused by the abuses of unregulated marginal loans. regulation provides a safety net, but even regulations can be manipulated to serve the interests of those being represented by government, hence the wealthy elite.
@helltrackrider i would also like to point out in regards to my last comment that i do not believe that either an unregulated or regulated economy will solve the inherent economic problems, as both allow manipulation by the capitalist class. if it is unregulated there is no barrier to prevent a man or group of men from manipulating the markets for there own purposes and there is nothing to stop them either. if it is regulated, it doesnt mean that those regulations are manipulated either.
@helltrackrider instead of trying to fix a system that is broken, it is far better to do away with it entirely. market socialism seems as a plausable alternative, where the markets are owned collectively by the people and the ratio of supply/demand is managed through democratically planned production. meaning that the workers of a given industry plan their production according to supply/demand and the profits generated go toward benefitting them entirely.
Capitalism isnt trying to fix what is broken; it is replacing this central planned crap we have today entirely.
Funny you mention "centrally planned" economies; how well is government central planning working out today?...not very well.
Socialism forces equality; where is the initiative in this system?...a system which promotes no failure and no personal reward is a system that is doomed to fail from the start - look at public education as a prime example.
You have your opinions - I have mine; my opinions are based on reality and observing how much of a failure the economies are that we have presently - yours are based on feelings, emotions and equality ... this is not reality.
Reality is - without a potential for reward ... technological innovation and progress will be stagnant.
Look at African countries, middle east countries ... compare them to countries where one can seek some reward.
@jess1up no its not, if it was socialism why is the middle class and working class being robbed to support the rich? we are being subject to corporatism in which the corporate monopolies and financial institutions have gained political and economic control over middle america and the working class.
@metalgearanarchist YES IT IS, the reason we are taxed so much is because not enough people exercise their rights and they submit to everything like a bunch of pussys. Real free market economys actualy work, Socialism and Communism will NEVER work. Socialism and Communism is an extreme lack of freedom. You should probably watch some Milton Friedman videos and maybe get a better understanding or even Ron Paul. I will never accept Socialism or Communism it doesn't work for a REAL American.
@jess1up Nice I couldn't agree more. RP 2012 this time lets use our heads and elect the man that told us this crap was coming. Cant fix the problem until you understand what caused the problem and unfortunately he is the only one that understands it.
@jess1up taxed so much? the rich dont pay neary as much as the middle and lower classes do. milton friedman proposed supply side economics which means giving corporate tax breaks to boost the economy and we have been doing that since the reagan administration . the first thing you need to do is learn what socialism is and is not. the USSR and China are examples of Stalinism, look up Stalinism. then compare Stalinism to Socialism and get back to me. use wikipedia not conservapedia, ok?
@ratt7777 INteresting. I like/liked Ron Paul, but I wonder, why doesn't Ron Paul author a bill to end the Patriot act and why doesn't Ron Paul author a bill to audit the Federal Reserve or end it? You would think that a man that has attracted such a following, would put his money where his mouth is. Could it be that he is just saying what people want to hear and is really just another sleazy politician? Just a thought
It's not that he hasn't sponsored the bills, its that you didn't spend any time to figure it out and instead you slander him with YOUR lack of intel.
Ron Paul Sponsored bills
H.R.459 : Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2011
H.R.1094 : Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act
H.R.1496 : Federal Reserve Transparency Act
P.S. Exec Order 11110 from JFK gives the treasury the ability to print currency backed by silver in its coffers. It has not yet been overruled by a new E.O.
Only the FDR Glass-Steagall principle will separate commercial from speculative banking, thus freeing the nation from obligations to Wall St. and the City of London, and re-establishing a credit system for rebuilding the nation.
H.R. 1489, Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011, is before the House of Representatives, which aims to revive the separation between commercial banking and the securities business, in the manner provided in the Banking Act of 1933, the so called 'Glass-Steagall Act
If USA was all about independence why did they send their industry abroad for cheap labour? i mean why not stick to your own and provide loads of jobs at home,if every country stuck to there own would the countrys not be far better off?
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thetbookmyrt 1 month ago
Fuck this, I'm going to watch the onion news
321boileranimal 1 month ago
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WERE some see unemployment I see OVER POPULATION
zilosgodie 3 months ago
The hard (over) working middle class has often put down the low wagers, but soon their illusions will shatter. They will whine, cry, march, and then organize to eliminate the land-housing-profit scam. Eventually the military boy-scouts will realize that they are protecting the biggest thieves in history - Banksters.
freemindsdaily 4 months ago
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TheSupersonicfan1234 4 months ago
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Some people want young white females to mix with non-white males.
I made a one-minute video highlighting a very tiny sample of race-mixing advertisements.
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(I'm not a fan of Hitler or KKK.)
autumntree2011 4 months ago
Unemployment under Reagan hit 10.8% in 1982 -- higher that it has ever been under Obama, even though Obama is facing a much worse overall economic situation.
sutircomed 5 months ago
It is not a recession it is a depression
PabloPancho100 5 months ago
44 million americans on food stamps!!!!!!!! Woow
comidaparaperro 5 months ago
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Pankcakes123 6 months ago 3
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anth42789 3 months ago
I love how RT gets people from every walk of life on their shows. From presidential candidates to bloggers to average joe citizens.
I'm still waiting for Obama to agree to an interview....oops I forgot he doesn't like unscripted questions without a teleprompter.
paullie6719 6 months ago
We should adopt another system rather than be bound by money. I don't thnik its fair as people who are unemplyed have nothing and that is discriminating against people due to things that are not their fault. i think a points based system would be better. everybody gets basic need provided by default but earns points for the more luxury stuff. at the end of the day the government take crude oil which money never created and belongs to the earth. free the people of this planet.
210482fmj 6 months ago
@ronheri: You are RIGHT-ON!!! I agree with you 100%!! How much longer will Americans take this nonsense?!! It will take a revolution to change things!!
johnifly 6 months ago
America did things that beyond of it's power. Invaded afghanistan and ıraq, which has cost trillions of dolars so far. Government budget turned upside down, invades caused huge deficits, debts are like mountain, nation's credit note is going to downgrade, unemployment can't be reduced. It's time act sensible for america.
atimetowork 6 months ago
RT babe! Whats her name?
fleshtheworld 6 months ago
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All you inbred right wingers who are about to lose your jobs, health care and homes-keep voting republican-PLEASE!! I dare ya!
Vetwolf13 7 months ago
The american dream is as dead as dr. kevorkian and the rich ceo who failed my commpany who laid me off is certainly not on life support or seaking the former doctors services. I have a degree and it does not iinvolve asking if ya want fries with that.
tatorsal 7 months ago
tax the poor 35% and give the rich 20% interest on money they save
NIGGER SAY WHAAAT?
garysquirrelreviews 7 months ago
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This may be one reason for unemployment now. Check out this video on YouTube about immigration and the world poor: "Immigration by the Numbers -- Off the Charts" Watch it and let me know what you think.
vechorik 6 months ago
I was able to retire this year, but my fucking boss fired me last year so now I have to wait until I'm 56 before I can collect my retirement (10 additonal years).
BeyonceVevo1 8 months ago
Did you know that the fedeal goverment is allowed to discriminate against their judiciary employees and there is nothing that the employee can do about it? What if this was allowed in the public sector? Googe Can federal employees sue federal goverment for wrongful termination.
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litoariel 8 months ago
Where is this guy getting his BS numbers from?? I bet he's making this shit up as he goes along. The only thing he said right was about McDonald's. He forgot to memtion that McDonald's hired 62,000 from thier 14, 000 locations. That's about 4 or 5 new hires per location!!!
chicagofrank2010 8 months ago
The dumbfuck was DEAD right until he started talking about 'the highest corporate tax rate' is BULLSHIT. It would be right IF corporations actually PAID that rate, but the ACTUAL intake from corporations is one of the world's LOWEST. The problem is not 'too much regulation' that is a LIE. There is not ENOUGH regulation that holds these leech-like corporations accountable and make sure they paid their fair share, only give tax breaks when they KEEP Americans employed and don't ship jobs overseas.
electronicoffee 8 months ago
Join the military? Or work at McDonalds? And people wonder why crime is so high!
AnbusKi 8 months ago
People should be creative & do what i did. 4 years ago i was unemployed. i noticed how easily churches got money from their congregation, & tax-free status from the government, so I started a Christian ministry. Now I have 200 people in my congregation, all giving me money. Some even sign over their welfare checks, lol! See my channel.
PastorBillSuttcliff 8 months ago
yeah, i wonder who easy it is to find a decent job in russia?
robi2000 9 months ago
I wish that they could help people who don't have jobs and create more jobs for all people equally!
Chrystallaish 9 months ago
can anyone say GREED?
casinohijack 9 months ago
Listen the situation is simple, the goverment shouldn't be this big they should not have bases in all these countries and recruit people at outlandish pay for it, they destroyed us :(
dreamslides 9 months ago
Funny how many companies get tax breaks while NOT hiring.
indyfan22k 9 months ago
i thought we had a labour shortage? plumbers, masons, mechanics and machinists. not fucking bugger-flipper and ''lowe-iense'' greeters....i was lied 2 in high school.
chadberry75 9 months ago
Ron Paul in 2012. We need his honesty, and his respect for personal freedoms. I hope the American people are wise to the fact that the country is going down fast.
A bg, big change is needed.
peterpotpie 9 months ago
i think something went very wrong in america. all globalist and thansks to mr clinton who started outsourcing
moneyjunkies 9 months ago
@Adelaide1200 YEAH I THINK YOUR RIGHT
LIBRAMAN2009 9 months ago
The Downfall is coming. And it won't be gentle, and alot of chaos. I see another Civil War on the horizon with the collapse of the American Dollar. Soon it will happen. So it's time to decide what side of the fence you will be on. Learn how to fire a rifle and some squad level tactics.
GirAddict 9 months ago
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stamstuff 9 months ago
Wow this girl is sexy and well-spoken! Go RT!
ENJager 9 months ago
Let's boot out all the spics, spooks, sand niggers, and slants.
nsv1041986 9 months ago
@nsv1041986 DONT FORGET THE WHITE DEVILS
LIBRAMAN2009 9 months ago 2
Yes, if the US is such a bad place to do business, how do we equate that with the massive profits the large corporations are now making (and I might add - pay no taxes).
The truth is, the tax code, like everything else, is stacked to milk the middle class, and to do it in such a way that at the same time they can attack us frontally in the work place and busting the unions.
It matters very little at this point really. The crash is immenent. Its just when, not if.
pjamesbda 9 months ago
Utah is returning to gold and silver as legal money and other states are looking at it. This is a positive sign that may aid our effort in saving our nation from these treasonous political hacks and the banksters/Federal Reserve/Wall Street that own them.
The real terrorists are the Democrats, Republicans and the blind, willfully ignorant, and lazy Sheep who have brought us to this nightmare after decades of corruption, lies, fraud and silence of the Sheep.
AffinityNetNews 9 months ago
Dont be distracted END The Federal Reserve.....Bumb Rush that Bitch!
maracanazo50 9 months ago
As George Carlin said, "the reason they call it the american dream,is you have to be asleep to believe it". Our monetary system being in constant change by printing more and more cash base on nothing but faith continues to erode the value and as wages fall, worth even less then the year before. Brought to you by the federal reserve since 1913. The house of cards owns us. It's Time for states to kick the government out and start over.
BohemianNightmare 9 months ago 12
@BohemianNightmare You dumbfuck. 1913? Sorry, the game was changed with the deregulated stock market crash in 1929 and THE NEW DEAL saved us. What is fucking our country is REAGANOMICS (trickle down, lower taxes = more jobs, etc.) which is a FUCKING LIE. IT DOES NOT WORK. Other countries with higher taxes, better economies, and first-world benefits (healthcare, retirement, affluent jobs, low unemployment, etc.). prove this.
electronicoffee 8 months ago
@electronicoffee You stupid brainwashed motherfucker, quit reading those books by your mainstream dis-info artist to distract you from the truth, bring it bitch! Try reading Jekyll Island about the 1913 implementation of the Federal Reserve.
BohemianNightmare 8 months ago
@BohemianNightmare Better yet, work your trade for low wages for 25 years like I did then start a business of your own only to find out that for a Corporation, even for a small contractor person like me has to form to be in business costs tons of tax money. This fed has attached to my bank account and takes money whenever it wants. One missed tax payment and I'm fucked and shut down. Talking of 'corporations' in general is ludacris. I made 60k but paid 20k in taxes in 2007, and not a dime since.
guitarplayer4real 7 months ago
@BohemianNightmare This current failure happened when the old gov was kicked out and a new age ushered in by Obama and his ridiculous neophyte zealots, so whats plan B then?
guitarplayer4real 7 months ago
Many areas of the United States are booming and my area is one of them.
thetruthisoutnow 9 months ago
This is another reason why I live in my SUV by choice. I vlog about it at on my YouTube page.
jeff4justice 9 months ago
you goy trash will die soon hehehehehhehhehehee
wejewsdid911HAHAHA89 9 months ago
the real rate is about 22% +. This whole argument is irrelevant and void. A man who trusts Bernanke and Geithner is a fool. The people perish for lack of knowledge,
garrethdavis 9 months ago
Go work at some multinational corporation for just over minimum wage. We let a corporate fascist government take hold, no real way to stop it now.
farmdog45 9 months ago
This is just my personal opinion but it’s high time ALL of the unemployed demonstrate, en masse, because this country is bull$hit. Lynchings in Washington DC is also long overdue.
We all need to stop being polite, stand up and say “I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!”
cnmmnc8852 9 months ago 2
unemployment is just the start, its going too get dam right rocky.
dadhadit 9 months ago
The American Dream left this country with NAFTA. It will take a revolution, like the ones going on in the middle east to take our country back from the criminal banksters. Americans are mad as hell and armed to the teeth. We will see...
ronheri 9 months ago 19
@ronheri I think white Americans will just continue blaming Mexican immigrants and muslims. They're blinded by their vacuous, consumerist culture. They probably won't turn against their masters anytime soon.
cornelius386 9 months ago
What's good for America is good for ALL -- including JOBS!
I like how Ron Paul doesn't participate in class warfare. What's good for America is good for blacks.
"Thy BlackMan.com" compares Cain to Paul and chooses Paul!
Google "Ron Paul & Herman Cain's Different Philosophies" by Staff
Re: Israel, Google "Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers" by Pastor Chuck Baldwin
Ron Paul re: Hispanics - great interview /watch?v=oHiKRVm7ziA
vechorik 4 months ago
Many great comments, but political philosophy and activism doesn't necessarily put food on your table. While we are working on the root of the problem, may I recommend a book I have recently completed titled, "GET A GREAT JOB FAST" which I'm offering for free on the website associated with my account? The strategies helped me get a job in this bad economy and I believe it can help you too. I published it after going through the same thing as everyone else out there. Best wishes.
getagreatjobfast 9 months ago
The sheep have been shorn-time for mutton.
foxterrier65 9 months ago 2
i wanna know why the statue on top of the white house is the goddess of the underground ???????????????
btizzo63 9 months ago
1 in 3 Americans are functionally illiterate and it is getting worse
some states have a76% drop out rate
and of the many University grads many are earning degrees in uselessness
so how do you propose to fix anything in America today?
1 in 6 are on food stamps
meanwhile China has more geniuses than America has literate !
I see a future where more and more jobs leave USA while taxes are reduced to a level that police firemen teachers lose jobs.
bleak is the operative word
dave777blaster 9 months ago 2
The US is the backwards country in the western world. Meanwhile,other nations are moving on to the 21st century.
98bigbutt 9 months ago
NAFTA=JOBLESS
If you voted for someone who supports NAFTA you deserve to be jobless!!!
How does a service economy that outsources the service create thousands of jobs for Americans?
depleteduraniumiswmd 9 months ago
You could probably throw out that last statistic as a possible outcome. These projections about wealth stratification in the future don't take revolution into account.
It's time to run things from a scientific life-ground perspective.
Politics, Economics and Religion have failed miserably
MattSyTy 9 months ago
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apocolypse1022 9 months ago 2
@apocolypse1022 Not!
ttgator2003 9 months ago
Off topic a bit but, why dont we just tell the fed to stick the debt where the sun dont shine, fire all them assholes, take it over, and start over back on the gold standard?
ttgator2003 9 months ago 3
@ttgator2003. The Fed may end up destroying itself with all the QE and bailouts.
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pussyfaceize 9 months ago
@goldsilverandiamonds for how long do you think? Another ... 6 months? At most? I doubt it. Enjoy beating your chest with pride while under the brainwashed illusion that us is a good country to live in. I'll make sure to post on your wall your own comments once the us economy collapses.
DurexDurpaneu2 9 months ago 2
RT is shit media. it doesn't show what happen to christian in egypt?? are you really orthodox christian russia???? why do you ignore the incident that's happening in egyptian christian church??? you only focus on revolution in egypt. you hypocrite secular media!!!!
polychronio 9 months ago
I hope are numbers don't get as low as Russia's and Socialist Europes.........THAT WOULD BE REALLY BAD..........But on the GOOD side even with being in the worst recession in 70 years the U.S. is still the largest most powerful economy in the world!!!!
goldsilverandiamonds 9 months ago
Useless debate. Unemployment numbers are fake as well as Ladin's death and Barry Soetoro's birth certificate. Or is there somebody who sincerely believes the data produced by the government?
SvrchovaneCechy 9 months ago
this is why when im done with college here in u.s im moving to france of u.k to create my own business
Trebor0930 9 months ago
Yo yeah work at MC D's oh yeah that's Job growth. Minimum wage jobs. Not enough money to live under the bridge. We need to focus on lowering the cost of living. This guy is good.
MegaMaxemus 9 months ago
this pisses me off....I wish I could leave this fucking country sometimes...
ShePlaysIt 9 months ago 2
We gave away our industry to China and India over the past several years. What can one expect?
JOgleJSO1 9 months ago 2
You know why McDonald's is hiring? It's because it's the only food people can afford. So course, it's booming. Walmart? Same reason, no one can shop for mid line products, Walmart offers to the low income which is the majority right now. So course, they are booming cause it's all people can afford.
neoplasmax 9 months ago 3
THE US Government have not done correct statistics...they have no clue about middle class and poor who are homeless in tent cities and unemployed families living with families. They need to mail out questionnaires and take down what people think, comments and opinions. They pass their own laws, without US Citizen input!
firedawn2u 9 months ago
Mr. Soros said it great, "1st thing, destroy their countries economy. Then tell the workers there's higher benefits in the military. Then start a false flag war, & voila;
"instant help for our causes"! (What they DON'T tell you is this; "kill any one via a lie, & YOU are a m-u-r-d-e-r-e-r''! And then there's that chit about Karma, ya it's true too.....)
crlwllns 9 months ago
modern day slavery. your job is a battlefield and your manager is the enemy.
skimaskradio 9 months ago
hold on a sec,weres alex jones at?
pinball281 9 months ago
Who own McD's & where's the fuckin veggie restaurants?
HigherSounds 9 months ago
money is fiction so is economy we just can put limit onr esources with technologies we have the ability to do that
Littlefoot3559 9 months ago
@Littlefoot3559
Oh they know.
HigherSounds 9 months ago
SNYDER is a bullshit MF. China makes American Manufacturers in China pay a 50% partnership fee to the Chinese Government. It is not a tax, it is a partnership fee (wink, wink). YouTube "Linfen China" to see what no regulation looks like. Close the borders to imports, end NAFTA, end Free Trade. See how fast the bastard manufacturers return to the USA. MR. SNYDER shut your Neo/Con hole.
rickbar123 9 months ago
damn
telemanque 9 months ago
headed for armed struggle...... fuck your I phones, American Idol,bs news and propaganda fluff.......this era will mark the beginning of an American guerilla movement, youll see. ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE
telemanque 9 months ago
@telemanque I've seen what bullets and shrapnel do to people too many times and it's NOT a pretty sight (dead children and broken hearted moms and dads). I hope and pray it doesn't come to that. I have to prepare for the worst and keep working for the best. I keep telling myself "this is America and we are all Americans" but then I do remember the Rodney King riots and I see tha bad side of people on an almost daily basis with my job which is a good reity check.
manofreedom 9 months ago
@manofreedom war is hell.... but sometimes it is inevitable when dealing with tyranny. I totally agree with you, I hope i'm wrong.
telemanque 9 months ago
@TheSpeckofdust hahhahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!! calm down.
telemanque 9 months ago
the only buisness paying taxes is small buisness big corps dont pay anything
snooch1975 9 months ago
"Starting your own business...where is that going"
Government; through regulation - fees - taxes - licensure - etc, has essentially assured that new business potential in America is not profitable and not plausible.
helltrackrider 9 months ago 42
@helltrackrider You just NAILED IT !!! I've been looking into starting a gym locally as I have a perfecr potential location (as you know they say: location, location, location) BUT the regulations, insurance, taxes, overhead expense would wipe me out even though I would have plenty of ciients that would be good paying customers so I'm not willing to take the chance.
manofreedom 9 months ago
@helltrackrider you forgot to mention FINES.
MsUoykcuf 9 months ago
@MsUoykcuf
True...but you cant get fined if you cant start anything...
Although, in my City - as a resident - you get fined for not noticing the City that you are hosting a Garage Sale...Gotta Love that!!!...And, you can only host 3 per year; anymore and you must have a sales tax license.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider. So true. It is financial gang rape by the feds, state, and local govts.
1977Melville 9 months ago
@helltrackrider you're wrong. the USA has the LEAST amoung of regulations among all democratic captialistic countries. Why do you think companies get away with murder, polition, labor law violations, union busting and so on... ???
indyfan22k 9 months ago
@indyfan22k
Funny...name ONE part of the private business world that is not in any way regulated, licensed or prohibited by the Government...
Also; Capitalism doesn't exist anywhere one Earth...so, try not to use the term - you may lead people to believe that todays economic failure is Capitlaism; as you have been led to believe.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
Decades of dumbing down in schools (training in narcissism; elimination of critical thinking) has prepared the public to be economically illiterate, preparing them to accept the incremental implementation of socialism (gulags, forced confessions, citizens spying on citizens) which comes as a result of crony capitalism (anti-free market). Millions of boys forced to take drugs, presecution of non-atheists, promotion of rape, perversion and Planned Abortionhood.
pkpapers 9 months ago 3
Capitalism = Problems
Socialism = Solutions
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Hahahahaaaa...funny.
You do realize that todays economy is Socialism...right?
Capitalism has never existed and cannot exist with central planning and managment.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider um...i think you are a little confused, see our economy is under imperial capitalism or imperialism, which mutated out of free market capitalism. socialism is about the people being the state and owning the means of production and democratically controlling them. does that sound like anything we are experiencing in the united states? im gonna say no.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
If the means and production is controlled by the State; limited by the State; manipulated by the State - wont even go into the process of purchasing the products or paying for the production...this is not Capitalism.
Capitalism has NOT existed in America since day one...it cannot exist with government determined currency, manipulated and controlled interest rates, regulated production - which manipulates the supply; regardless of the demand.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Using "Capitalism" in any shape or form to describe Americas economy; or any economy on Earth, is ignorant.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
What solutions did your little cute socialism bring? It was a direct way to tyranny and dictatorship, poverty and mass slaughter and totalitarism. Socialism is nonsense, it doesn't work on this planet. Period. Even capitalism works better than your socialism.
You are one of those 18 year old anarchist hipster gayrights activists? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Die already hipster gayass.
Ruisleipa77 9 months ago
@Ruisleipa77 oh capitalism has brought us so much, riding on the coat tails of human ingenuity while exploiting both whole populations and resources for the sole purpose of profit. you mean what has supposed socialist countries who degenerated under the weight of stalinism and relapsed into state capitalism. socialism is further and foremost about democracy, politically and economically. a state in which industry is owned by and democratically run by the people. they weren't socialist in truth.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Always this same identical bullshit conversation, just look at your wonderfull Koreas and China and Stalin and all these murderers. How wonderfull and free it was. People starved to death because "everything belong to everyone", in practice to the government. This just don't work how many billion examples do we need?
You are under mass social experiements, masscontrol and brainwash - FUCK MAO!
Ruisleipa77 9 months ago
@Ruisleipa77 according to trotskyism these are not socialist countries, but deviations of it. they are considered degenerated worker's states, the reason for their degeneration was because of the centralization of government and the resulting increasing of bureaucracy. socialism in principle is about the people owning and democratically controlling industry, if its not socialist in principle it is not in practice.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@Ruisleipa77 Finland isn't completely socialist, they still embrace aspects of capitalism. they are still classified as a mixed economy.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist. People confuse a social democracy with socialism. They aren't the same. I imagine the quality of life in Finland, Austria, Germany, is much better than the USA.
1977Melville 9 months ago
@1977Melville,Also Canada has a social democracy.
98bigbutt 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Look in my land Finland, everything is perfect. Dumbass commie hipster gayactivist ass
Ruisleipa77 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Let me ask a question...
Being that Capitalism relies on voluntary exchange; how can voluntary interaction be considered "exploiting"?
Afterall...by your use of the term "exploit" - one could say that BOTH parties are exploiting each other...the consumer exploits the producers as they derive benefits from the product or service consumed...do they not?
Capitalism is equality for the consumer and the producers; both are recipients of gains in every exchange.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider in reality the producer and consumer are the same, they are both exploited equally. the exploitation comes from the fact that those who produce dont own what they produce. that it is owned by the company and the one who benefits from the sale of the product is always the owners of the company. the value of labor is smaller compared to the surplus value of capital generated by the products sale. the relation between producer and consumer is thus alienation.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Lets look at your comment in detail...
1) The "Company" - in a free market - makes voluntary arangements with the employees that "produce" a product or service ... should those employees feel that they can offer the same at a much more effecient and reasonable price point, what is to stop them from doing so on their own?...nothing - aside from liability for the product producedd or service offered
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider the difference between Capitalism and Socialism is ownership, under the former the company owns what labor produces and benefits the more from its sale than the worker. under the latter the workers own what they produce and benefit the most from its sale. basically the workers are the owners and there is no owner independent thereof.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
...and when you remove the ownership from the individual and place it in the "Common" or "Public" ... this is a transfer of voluntary to compulsion; an economy / society cannot be voluntary without ownership of property ... If you do not own any tangible property, the idea of "voluntary agreements" are out the door as you have no right to make the decisions of the property - and with voluntary gone; that leaves in-voluntary = compulsion.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
2) In a free market - which capitalism is - patents, copyrights and IP rights do not exist as they are not property...fraud and slander would still be existing forms for retribution.
3) Given that "companies" would want to protect their idea, product or service - almost certainly ownership of the company for employees would be a result of the market - assuming the employees want to voluntarily accept ownership - b/c with ownership comes responsibility.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Thus...the voluntary relationship between the producer and consumer is not exploitation - its is an arranged agreement between two parties of which BOTH parties are recieving benefits from...if both parties were not benefiting, the agreement would not take place.
Socialism, on the other hand, is compulsion - not voluntary...as an individual, you are forced to accept the services offered even though you may not wish those services - because it is "for the common good"
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider under socialism services are not forced, they are given voluntarily. you think Obama is a socialist?
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Hint...look for the term "Common" or "Public" and you can ultimately say; this is compulsion.
Lets say America decided tomorrow ... we want "Socialism"...how is it not compulsion to EVERY entity in the economy? They will have to alter their current state, current market share, current revenue rates, shit...everything that set them apart individually...this is by force.
Under Capitalism; individual choices determine who you are; not forced social equality.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider though we have Socialistic programs, that doesnt mean were are truly socialist. if you look at who has the most influence in government, it sure isn't the people as it would be under socialism. Corporate America and Wall st have all the influence and all the current efforts of the union busting is to get rid of organize labor which is the only thing preventing the corporations from having complete domination over industry. what America is experiencing is Coporatism, not Socialism
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
regardless of who has the influence...the outcomes of the stolen wealth are used for two things; forced equality and the "common" benefit...as it is under socialism.
Corporate America only has the influence it does due to a communistic/socialistic political approach ... take wealth to redistribute it - the corporations have a say in where the wealth is redistributed; military - medical - regulatory - education - transportation - social programs - etc...
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider Coporate America has the influence it does cause the government has been bought off by them as with everything else, it has nothing to do with redistribution of wealth or socialism. second, socialism doesn't force equality, it gives it no strings attached. the government has been taxing the poor and middle class to support the wealthy and that is not socialism. socialism is a society in which industry and financial establishments are owned by and democratically run by the people.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
"industry and financial establishments are owned by and democratically run by the people"
"Collectivism"...a society where the individual is non-existent; thus - all interactions are regulated for the benefit of "the people"...any interaction which is unregulated would typically be deemed as illegal activity ... see drugs and prostitution in todays collectivist society; every "legal" interaction has numerous regulations behind it or the goods / services being offered.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Take a moment...step back, understand "WHY" Corporate America exists as it does today...because of Government.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider do you honestly think that a "free market" can regulate itself? America started out under the principles of the "free market" and the unrestricted growth of capital allowed for the formation of monopolies. your "free market" is more utopian than any brand of socialism has projected.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
America started under the Constitution - which allows for theft (taxation), copyrights protection and the issuance of the currency...this has nothing to do with a "free market" - quite the opposite.
Also, the monopolies that formed were through the regulation and protection of the government itself - in railways, coal mining and shipping to name a few...in a free market scenarion; subsidies, tax breaks, copyrights / patents, regulation, licensure, etc do not exist
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
All these forms of regulation and protection by the government lead to monopolies - not the self regulation and practices within a free market.
The free market would regulate itself...outside influences and compulsions are what causes turbulance and cycles within the market place...see the dot com boom/bust, the housing boom/bust as two key examples...supressed interest rates and fractional reserve banking rob the middle/lower class and make the rich extremely wealthy
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider the federal reserve is a central bank it has no connection with the government, its completely independent. all the regulations that are placed on the economy are done so in agreement with the wealthy elite. you have to understand that the economy is being engineered to benefit the wealthy elite not middle america or the working class. the problem with capitalism is that a small group of people have ownership of production, everyone should be entitled to be a owner of production.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
In a voluntary economy - as Capitalism is - everyone is entitled to own his/her production ... that person just has to take the initiative and potential risk to achieve ownership ... or work out a contractual agreement with the party that is paying for his/her labor...how is this a bad / evil / unacceptable system?
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider how? first of all the markets are too unstable, they fluxuate too rapidly for any long term economy to exist. second, without any regulation of the economy to provide stability and prevent the consolidation of monopolies we would just revert back to what we are fighting against now. and third, private ownership means that businesses will do what is good for the business, like out-sourcing, lay-offs and pay cuts, thats why im in favor of public ownership.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Have a good one...
You "argument" - if you can call it that - is based on your opinion, not evidence...and to compare what we are fighting against now to capitalism is ridiculous...capitalism is nowhere around; the monopolies today can be 100% accredited to government interference (regulation) of the economy...not due to natural market occurances...it is almost impossible to show with evidence that monopolies will occur in a true free market...
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
business will do what is good for business - of course; what you fail to mention is that keeping happy, healthy and intellegent employees is also good for business ... so, if a business has employees that meet their needs - pay cuts, outsourcing and lay-offs will not occur ... the market will determine the worth of ones labor relative to the service or product created; not the business...if the business tries - others will step in and acquire more market share.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@helltrackrider you say others will step in? whose others? also if the markets are not regulated what would prevent abuses or manipulation of the markets? economic regulation of the economy didnt really start till the reforms of the great depression era. the great depression was caused by the abuses of unregulated marginal loans. regulation provides a safety net, but even regulations can be manipulated to serve the interests of those being represented by government, hence the wealthy elite.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@helltrackrider i would also like to point out in regards to my last comment that i do not believe that either an unregulated or regulated economy will solve the inherent economic problems, as both allow manipulation by the capitalist class. if it is unregulated there is no barrier to prevent a man or group of men from manipulating the markets for there own purposes and there is nothing to stop them either. if it is regulated, it doesnt mean that those regulations are manipulated either.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@helltrackrider instead of trying to fix a system that is broken, it is far better to do away with it entirely. market socialism seems as a plausable alternative, where the markets are owned collectively by the people and the ratio of supply/demand is managed through democratically planned production. meaning that the workers of a given industry plan their production according to supply/demand and the profits generated go toward benefitting them entirely.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
Capitalism isnt trying to fix what is broken; it is replacing this central planned crap we have today entirely.
Funny you mention "centrally planned" economies; how well is government central planning working out today?...not very well.
Socialism forces equality; where is the initiative in this system?...a system which promotes no failure and no personal reward is a system that is doomed to fail from the start - look at public education as a prime example.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist
You have your opinions - I have mine; my opinions are based on reality and observing how much of a failure the economies are that we have presently - yours are based on feelings, emotions and equality ... this is not reality.
Reality is - without a potential for reward ... technological innovation and progress will be stagnant.
Look at African countries, middle east countries ... compare them to countries where one can seek some reward.
helltrackrider 9 months ago
@metalgearanarchist Socialism IS the problem. Watch fight of the century, Keynes vs Hayek here on Youtube.
jess1up 9 months ago
@jess1up no its not, if it was socialism why is the middle class and working class being robbed to support the rich? we are being subject to corporatism in which the corporate monopolies and financial institutions have gained political and economic control over middle america and the working class.
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago 2
@metalgearanarchist YES IT IS, the reason we are taxed so much is because not enough people exercise their rights and they submit to everything like a bunch of pussys. Real free market economys actualy work, Socialism and Communism will NEVER work. Socialism and Communism is an extreme lack of freedom. You should probably watch some Milton Friedman videos and maybe get a better understanding or even Ron Paul. I will never accept Socialism or Communism it doesn't work for a REAL American.
jess1up 9 months ago
@jess1up Nice I couldn't agree more. RP 2012 this time lets use our heads and elect the man that told us this crap was coming. Cant fix the problem until you understand what caused the problem and unfortunately he is the only one that understands it.
xcit 9 months ago
@jess1up taxed so much? the rich dont pay neary as much as the middle and lower classes do. milton friedman proposed supply side economics which means giving corporate tax breaks to boost the economy and we have been doing that since the reagan administration . the first thing you need to do is learn what socialism is and is not. the USSR and China are examples of Stalinism, look up Stalinism. then compare Stalinism to Socialism and get back to me. use wikipedia not conservapedia, ok?
metalgearanarchist 9 months ago
the root problem is regulation of the banks. the Fed can't just print money out of thin air if the banks are regulated.
LouieArrighi 9 months ago
Lets riot!!!!
ronmorris88 9 months ago
Unemployment is a lot lower.......in China
ttaylor667 9 months ago 2
@ttaylor667 and they outpopulate us 5-1
TurboGC8 9 months ago
@ratt7777 INteresting. I like/liked Ron Paul, but I wonder, why doesn't Ron Paul author a bill to end the Patriot act and why doesn't Ron Paul author a bill to audit the Federal Reserve or end it? You would think that a man that has attracted such a following, would put his money where his mouth is. Could it be that he is just saying what people want to hear and is really just another sleazy politician? Just a thought
ttaylor667 9 months ago
@ttaylor667 He has and has always voted against legislation like the Patriot Act. He is a constitutionalist.
Are you posting this same quote over and over?
jjvescovi11 9 months ago
@ttaylor667
It's not that he hasn't sponsored the bills, its that you didn't spend any time to figure it out and instead you slander him with YOUR lack of intel.
Ron Paul Sponsored bills
H.R.459 : Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2011
H.R.1094 : Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act
H.R.1496 : Federal Reserve Transparency Act
P.S. Exec Order 11110 from JFK gives the treasury the ability to print currency backed by silver in its coffers. It has not yet been overruled by a new E.O.
Andarien86 9 months ago
@ttaylor667 dumb ass..
lnclincoln 9 months ago
@lnclincoln Troll..
ttaylor667 9 months ago
@ttaylor667 ur a troll for saying what you said about ron paul with no research.
lnclincoln 9 months ago
@lnclincoln Please refer to previous reply.
ttaylor667 9 months ago
Where the hell are these jobs going to because it isn't here in America. Unemployment numbers tell you that!
Stellarpop1 9 months ago
What's it going to take sheeple? END THE FED!! END THE IRS!! RON PAUL 2012... America's last hope!!
JonathanTaylor95 9 months ago
Only the FDR Glass-Steagall principle will separate commercial from speculative banking, thus freeing the nation from obligations to Wall St. and the City of London, and re-establishing a credit system for rebuilding the nation.
H.R. 1489, Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011, is before the House of Representatives, which aims to revive the separation between commercial banking and the securities business, in the manner provided in the Banking Act of 1933, the so called 'Glass-Steagall Act
tepstolog 9 months ago
Mc Recovery with freedom fries :(
daisycutterz 9 months ago 27
If USA was all about independence why did they send their industry abroad for cheap labour? i mean why not stick to your own and provide loads of jobs at home,if every country stuck to there own would the countrys not be far better off?
pinball281 9 months ago