StratFu Presents: Sarth25 + 3: Strategy Guide

[ElmerKendrick8535]

this song? sick Drake published many great tracksseen in

ReciveRnBDrakeTunes(.)tk

although many were unreleased.

[keesharagno]

good concepts. cheers, have any of you tested Garniers latest line of products?! its not easy to get quality makeup in Albany but i managed to obtain some stunning samples via 'Gratis Makeup Samples'! there handy!

[KarenSprague3677]

OMG this? song is sick i love it alot

[JulieSlye0605]

i? love Llyod !! 0606537552

[JaneSalisbury2219]

i love this song, if? you missing someone let them know

[MilkLadyDR]

do you know how to get from level 1 to 80 in under 7 days? check it out - /watch?v=d1k0tLOrGQE



[TreeFrogiMom]

do you know how to get from level 1 to 80 in under 7 days? check it out - /watch?v=d1k0tLOrGQE

[adiabaticil]

awe-inspiring instructions- thank you, any of you sampled Garnier's most recent product line? it's hard to get quality makeup in Ogden but you can receive magnificent samples of makeup via "Gratis-Makeup-Samples", they're ace!

[Angelofstorm]

Does anyone know how (the script used or otherwise) to make the camera pan out much more than just scrolling can do?

[Damianop]

/console maxcameradistance 50

[XIANGDKCN]

/console CameraDistanceMaxFactor 6

[youdownloadavirus]

@ amdi, a

[shibbyska]

Who the hell paid their mom to read "how to Sarth 3d"?

[AmdiPrutjavski]

What is the hardest to make...

A) Twilight Vanquisher?

B) The Immortal?

[xXxfrodexXx]

a ...

[daydayhyphy]

the immortal

[nicklass0n]

Immortal is way harder

[AppleAssassin]

the immortal

[ThupinTheLird]

Death's Demise is probably harder than both nowadays.

[ookanakka614]

3:34

At this point in the fight, you basicly have won as long as no one is incredibly stupid

LOL. I couldnt stop laughing at this point. Good vid though

[Karnage420111]

lol @ middleish productions

[Axyan1]

the speakswoman makes me feel it's "Sarth 3D for dummies"

[ransom5008]

this bitch's voice is annoying

[differentperson0102]

Very helpful, plus I like the way you put it when you said "You have already won unless noone is incredibly stupid." Still love the video, we are raiding this week and we will get Of the nightfall im sure.

[Jockma93]

Can you post a list of the addons you are using ? :)

[tke19933]

Watch this:

watch?v=PlAdnaHlPMU

[dickbanger312]

damn that is very helpful ty a lot

[opperpeen]

ooo so this is how it goes!

[Prospam]

Wow... I thought it would be a tad easier than this... how wrong I was.

That was very informative though, thank you very much. I'm a destro lock in a half raiding, half casual guild, and we're going for our first official Naxx 10 guild run this sunday. Maybe soon we can move onto Sarth with at least one drake up. However, I'm looking forward to a shot at the "Of the Nightfall" title, just because it sounds awesome, even though that's 10 man. Hopefully this'll help us out! Thanks again!

[nikkosyia]

Sound quality was horrible, even in HD. But the video is great, as well as the discriptions.

[NeXuzBakaneesan]

It's like some automated voice rofl

[wwe2002]

awesome video very helpful but damn that lady's voice is annoying lol

[Avistiff]

What is the Addon that shows when your cooldowns are ready, such as the HUGE Mirror Image one?

[lescailloux1964]

Run away little girrrrl run away hehehehehe

Great vid

[Mldalgaard]

Brilliant movie, thank you :)

[smirko]

very eductional video! huge kudos to fusion

[WOWduelist]

this was posted on my guild website for our first 3 drake run. awesome video best ive seen and the clearest.

[Rookz89]

I must say I am very very impressed with this video. It was posted on our raid community forum for us to watch and learn for our 2nd attempt on the Sarth 3D. You covered everything great and understandable. 5 stars here, thow in my mind 10 ain't enough ;)

[paradoxin7]

3:17 - 3:20 made me laugh

[MrKickapoo69]

nice guide problem is if your not in a good guild dont bother trying to pug this sad as it is you can't always know who your gonna get and this will lead to a horrible wipe.

[Gyletta]

What an excellent and comprehensive guide. Thanks alot for the work you put into making it.

[PowerfulLighting]

This has to be the best explanation i've seen so far.

Even the one from Tankspot isnt this well explained.

/salute

[ridezko]

is this posible to do with only melee classes?

[dcxtreno]

Your probably going to need a couple healers.

[BryanMaddocks]

Excellent guide.

[pballin77]

heya kyth! you wont remember me but i used to talk to you sometimes and did a few runs with fusion before my damn account was hacked. but great guide! my current guild uses this! gj!

[mcraidersftw]

dont know why, but i lolled @ 3:37.. :p

[anteproblem]

Ah, ok. I understand now, thank you.

[anteproblem]

I have a question about that thing you say about Twilight Torment...

The part about no longer begin able to play tricks with it, does it mean that you can't enter a portal and exiting just to get rid of the Twilight Torment debuff?

[nyxai]

it means it will come back very quickly now, so your tank can't do a last-minute attack to take less damage. It's explained in the strategy guide (see "More info" above)

[phille21]

Why would I want frost resistance for fire damage? :S

[nyxai]

It's for the stamina for the tank, not for the resistance.

Druids don't need defense, so that turns out to be incredibly good tanking gear for them especially early on.

[wingzerotype]

the frost resist gear is some of the highest stam gear in the game. its not for stacking the frost resist, its for stacking the stamina

[Hendo741]

What addon shows the spell ready with icon behind it near the top left??

[nyxai]

I use CooldownTimers2 but GhostPulse also does it.

[Pivert1337]

i was just wondering, u had 1 tank to pick both whelps and fire elementals, how is that possiple, I'm a pala tank, and im even having a hard time just picking up the whelps, so my question is, what class did u use for that, or is there any tricks, maybe by letting a pala healer heal with righteous fury or having a frost mage forsting asap they get out of portal, because it honestly seems like they are running right through my consecration?, anyway very nice and helpfull video, keep doing that :)

[nyxai]

We just have our paladins do it. For the whelps, know when Tenebron is going to die (or when they're going to spawn) and you have to have your consecration in place already so it catches them -- you can't wait until you see them.

If you really do have problems, I've known of other guilds that do this with 4 tanks -- having two tanks handling whelps/adds together, with one the primary tank and the other helping to get them off healers.

[lemming1317]

try switching out to use a spl dmg mainhand it helps a lot

[wangfangli]

cool! Check out Belrion88 clip too!so great

[WildShadow1989]

VERY helpfull video thanks :)

[koppelman123]

Hi, whats the addon that shows an arrow where to go to avoid the lava wall? thanks.

btw nice video :)

[nyxai]

I don't have an addon that does that, sorry.

[krazzi88]

Great Vid

[Toddv1]

Great strat. Now if only I can get my fail "raid leaders" to watch it.

[5914SD]

lol as long as no one is increadibly stupid u win very funny how many heals u use 3? if said earlier i didnt here

[nyxai]

No, but the movie says it: I strongly recommend 6, not 7, healers.

[raith93]

Really great video i loved it, VERY well explained, covers all details and the voice is very clear and easy to understand. If the guild im currently in achives 3 drake sarth it was thanks to this video ( and the guild's skill of course )

[Faith1nTheKnife]

These videos are amazing! (:

[Kirschwasser87]

how much dps i need for this ? i'm a mage. usually i have in naxx 3,2-3,5k dps is this okey?

[Ollay245]

dunno we're doing 2 drakes atm with people doing 4k+

[epsonhell]

awesome guide, well explained and filmed.

thank you

[dwaarfie]

i want your gui :D

[lukechesswalker]

GRATZ KYTH!!!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!! TY FOR THE GUIDE! my guildies are all twilight vanquishers now with the help from this video.

[bigcow02]

godly04, please shout FAIL to your parents for not wearing rubbers. Grats parents, another ignorant hate spewing cunt on this globe...

[nyxai]

He's blocked. Internet tough guys bore me.

[ivanthekul]

made me lol irl

[skypiratecaptain]

i like this video very clean and well explained but guild still spent 4 hours on this one night grrrr

[nyxai]

Movies always make it seem easy. Heck, I watch our videos and I say "wow that seems easy..." It's because it all seems faster when you're doing it, and you see less of it at once so it's easier to make the wrong decisions.

[JEHZIBEL]

Excellent instruction. Thank you!

[joejoebananas]

nice video.......

[Wowprivateserver1337]

Hey what are all the addons u have???

[dimadre]

does shadow resistance and fire resistace gear work?

[nyxai]

Yes but Wrath doesn't have any new SR/FR gear, and the old stuff doesn't have enough stamina.

Frost Resist on your druid so they can have overpowered hitpoints to tank Sarth, however, does work. Amusingly.

[godly04]

it doesn't take much to invent a stragegy at all.

Take kael for example..

Everyone struggled with him, but really they just didn't pay attention.

When we were learning him, we just said oh look.. big ass fiery pattern on the floor.. probably a good idea to move away from that.

Oh look, big ass bird thing that shoots fire in circles, better kite him away.

Ouch, we take more raid damage when we're close together during the gravity thingy.

Its just common sense, not skill lol

[nyxai]

Better go find something "skillful" to play then and stop talking to the mortals here who aren't a perfect god like yourself.

[nyxai]

You're tiresome and cluttering my comments. You just want to feel superior, to whine and fuss about how everything is too "easy" for you and requires no skill and is just "common sense" (you know, like complicated dance routines) and you're better than everyone else -- because the anonymity of the internet lets you feel like an internet tough guy. And I should've deleted your comments from the start.

[Nicksilver101]

Do the players who take the portal's get hit by lava wave's?

[nyxai]

No.

[Damntastic]

Done it 2 days ago, was hard but doable with a decent selective group

[WrittenInWhite]

Well I have to say Im very impressed by all your tactics, I admire anyone who can come up with original tactics. We will be trying this and the Maly 25 tactic in our guild, keep up the good work :)

[godly04]

Also, for whoever posted about how much hp your tank needs.. it's always a little more above however much burst dps the boss can potentially do.

If your tank can absorb it all.. he shouldn't drop unless your healers suck.

[dynamics101]

Whats the addon that mage uses that shows when her cooldowns are ready. ie The one that flashes on her screen when blink is ready?

[nyxai]

CooldownTimers2

[adamgooday]

which addons are you using?

[nyxai]

Type "stratfu" into google to find my site. Ther'es a link on the left to my list of addons and descriptions of them.

[FuohxD]

You cannot just download the addons to make it look like this..

I see alot of customized things..

[Trimmer82]

this is a very informative video. great job and thanks. Attempting tonight with 2 drakes, 3 next week

[trashacount2]

The best strat video i ve ever seen on tube grate job

[BeckaNoel]

This is awesome, great job Fusion! I'm taking this knowledge back to my guild's run tonight :)

[gutturtle]

OMG...check-out "Butterfly Hands of Danger" ! The Best!

[DAGman27]

This is the last fight our guild has left to down right now. I hope I'm not overlooking this somewhere, but how many tanks/healers do you run? We may be running heavy right now (4 tanks - 1 Sarth, 1 fulltime fire adds/whelps, 1 fulltime drakes, 1 adds/whelps + 2nd drake when 2 are up). We go with 7 healers as well. It seems that DPS is our problem, I'm just wondering if it's a quality or a quantity thing.

[DAGman27]

gahhh....nevermind, I knew I overlooked it somewhere. 3 tanks, 5-7 healers does sound about right.

[InsaneDimzi]

Kyth what codec do you use to compress video? The quality is much higher then I can ever get out of vegas. I heard Divx was good, comments?

[nyxai]

H264 -- it's really awesome.

[pappiehaj]

WOW thx wiped all night on this yesterdays this was very good :) hope it'll help us for tonights tries:) Thank you // sylvanas:D

[simionTheOne]

damn this looks tough

just did the 25 man

without any dragons spawning

[stephenkind]

Ok me and my guild are going to try with +1 Drake on 10man Sarth to begin with what do you think is the easiest drake for +1 on 10man? I think the 25% Health debuff one since our tank has 29.5k Hp un-buffed. Do you agree?

[nyxai]

Tenebron is the easiest by far.

29.5k hp is getting there -- he'll want a bit more before you try 3-drakes though (41k+ unbuffed is what we've seen has the most success.)

[eillora]

Awesome video, well explained encounter and a great guild too! Fusion rocks! Send my greetings to Nidaba. :)

[omnomnombabies]

You can go around the edge and kill each of the 3 drakes individually, and then engage sartharion alone.

Or, you can leave all 3 drakes up when you engage Sartharion and they will each grant him an ability and fly around flame breathing and shit and generally making it a clusterfuck.

[drrrerr]

Wait, if this was with 3 drakes up (..but you killed them, what does 3d up mean then?), how the hell is this fight without the drakes?

[nyxai]

When you engage him without killing any of his drakes first, they give him extra powers that are very difficult to handle. If you look in "More Info" above, you'll see a link to the written strategy guide, if the movie wasn't clear enough.

[XxNostroxX]

you kill them before hand....

[RicoSuave93710]

If you read the Achievement it says:

"With all three Twilight Drakes still alive, engage and defeat Sartharion the Onyx Guardian on Heroic Difficulty."

It says with the drakes alive, doesn't say leave them alive.

[XxNostroxX]

im sure you have to down them before sarth....maybe. Been trying to get it only done 2 drakes so far

[Landmarkmoon]

What's that song?

[nyxai]

Pistolero.  Juno Reactor.

[ToolFan820]

Have to say this is the best strat movie ive seen ... its not cluttered up with music or random strat captions. Everything is put together well and really appreciate it. Hopefully it helps with our guilds try on 1-2-3 drakes.

[suntoumbra]

nie video...and nice voice....:) keep it up....tell me ur guild name pls and server :) i wish to speak with u ! ty

[nyxai]

Go to the stratfu site listed in "more info", there's a link to forums there, which is the fastest and best way to reach me, since if I'm in-game I'm often raiding or grouping. That said, my name/server are listed on that site too, if you need to talk in-game.

[Willplayguitar4food]

it should be noted that hunter's can use Roar of Sacrifice to help mitigate the damage your main tank takes from sarth's breaths.

Roar of Sacrifice is a talented level 30 pet ability that allows the hunter's pet to absorb damage from a friendly target.

However, Its only with certain pets, IE pets that fall under the "Tendancy" family:

Bear, Boar, Crab, Crocolisk, Gorilla, Rhino, Scorpid, Turtle, Warp Stalker, and worms Worm.

More CD's never hurt anyone :)

Hope it helps :)

[Museffs]

One of the best guides I've seen in ages.

[snoppdeng]

Very good job on commenting the video. Now, to persuade my raid leaders to try it out :D

[sargent1980]

good video, thanks for taking the time to make it. My guild just used your strat and sucessfully completed it tonight. Thanks again!

[nyxai]

Awesome, congrats!

[AJLetson]

Well-done guide.

[stephenkind]

Might be a weird question but, have you noticed the total lack of professional players in WoW now there are alot more people with absolutely NOT A SINGLE CLUE on how heal/tank/keep threat low. On Barthilas (Oceanic) It seems when the new expansion came in, peoples intelligence went /wave. Encounters like this which i find amazingly fun seem merely impossible to most players. Difficult, not really, co-ordination, non-existent.

[nyxai]

The content is a lot easier so more people with a lower skill level are completing it -- this is good, since it's great for people to have more to do in-game, and the achievements/hardmode still give challenge. If your problems are in your guild, maybe it's time to look for a new guild :).

[godly04]

lol.. "Lower skill level"

World of warcraft has always been and will always be a rinse and repeat video game.

A monkey could do his part in any boss fight with enough practice.

Don't even imply that wow takes skill :P

[nyxai]

Hmmm guess guilds better start recruiting monkeys then since 100% of guilds haven't cleared Naxx yet!

(hint: the world doesn't revolve around twitch-FPS skills, there's actually more to it than just that, and other things that matter.)

[godly04]

All bosses are like learning a dance routine.. with enough practice you can repeat it easilly.

it's basic memorization and repitition.

The fact that "100%" of guilds havn't cleared naxx doesn't prove a thing other than they havn't had enough time to practice the fights.

It's no indication that they're lacking in "skill."

and yes, I'm certain monkeys could do better than some of the raiders Iv'e had to put up with in past guilds.

[godly04]

Also on a side note, a lot of wow's boss fight success comes from "Twitch" skills.

about a year back, for a month straight all that was heard on my guild's vent was "Move out of the fucking flame strike!"

[nyxai]

Except to do well, you don't just twitch out of the flame strike: you know how long you can wait (can you let your cast finish?) and you know where to move to minimize the likelihood that you'll have to move again.

Yes, when you wait until the content is easy and you overgear it, monkeys can do it. If you want to play when things are hard, though, it requires more than "monkey" level skills.

[nyxai]

And we do all these fights before there are strategies and videos out. What's your point? :)

[godly04]

My guild makes the strategy videos :P

I'm just saying it didn't take skill, it's a game. it doesn't require you to move, or barely even think.

[nyxai]

By your definition nothing takes skill ever. You're very hung up on this "skill" idea though.

I play to have fun. Perhaps you should stop playing this "skilless" pointless game then eh?

[godly04]

Umm, no you just misunderstand what skill means.

To me.. skill means executing some technique effectively , during a situation where you have to *think on your feet*

WoW would be a tough game that requires skill, if the boss fights were always different.. but the boss fights never change, and therefore it's not a game of skill, but memorization and repitition.

[iamdarkpwner]

*Thinking on your feet* is a skill but it doesnt define skill, skill is like you said in the first part of your first paragraph, a kind of meter for executing/preforming something exceptionally.

Pvp to be honest, takes alot more skill than boss fights IMO but your free to argue :D

[BleednDreamz]

resil does not= skill, and premades in pvp are essentially well coordinated raids... they are fairly equal however if someone says different see first comment, Resil does not = skill

[skypiratecaptain]

i play a ret pally and there's more skill in raiding than in pvp in that, by far, raiding is very differant each time it's not the same thing over and over there are elements of chance which can occur

[Japanseb]

"...more skill in raiding than in pvp in that, by far, raiding is very differant each time it's not the same thing over and over there are elements of chance which can occur"

Depends. Skill wise, 2200 arena rating > Naxx 25.

Also, raiding is very much repetitive. Stay out of [insert AoE spell here]. I'm a raider and PvP'er myself and I honestly find both very easy so far, even three drake sarth. (Although my guild hasn't downed him yet .. People don't get that Fire hurts you .. hmmm)

[yuttil]

So you ride the coattails of your betters and somehow think that makes you worth listening to?

News flash: Your tanks and healers, at the very least, weren't in a few Kara epics and Outland blues.

You were a hanger-on and coattail rider. That doesn't mean the encounters weren't difficult, but that you are worthless as a raid member.

[godly04]

K, kid.. you can't prove a single letter of that pile of shit you just wrote.

Shut the fuck up.

You're all talk just like every other angry nerd who doesn't have a point.. so he just rambles on with random emo bull shit.

[yuttil]

I'm the angry nerd, yet you're the one raving on Youtube comments about how awesome you are at World of Warcraft, and telling them to shut the fuck up.

Too funny.

[godly04]

don't be angry because you were proven wrong.

Just stfu and go away.

So pathetic, trying to get laid with the fat chick by defending her.

[godly04]

Just FYi, I was a healer of that guild.

Healers have the DIRECT responsibility of keeping the raid members alive.

Its impossible to "Ride coat tails" with a job that needs so much responsibility.

Go QQ to some other dispicable, obese nerd who might actually care about your emo rants that are completely unfounded upon anything other than your sayso.

[yuttil]

Hey man, you're bad at WoW and a coattail rider. It's cool, plenty of people are also bad like you.

Nothing to getting bitchy about. :D

[godly04]

Also, this might come as a suprize to you.. but good guilds don't keep coat tail riders, you pitiful monkey licker.

maybe your trashy guild does, but not mine.

[nyxai]

And yet people don't laugh saying dance routines are trivial.

[Vakrian]

i can only agree with you there godkiller

[godkilleroswin]

Thank you for excluding the music. Watched this for information, not entertainment. I appreciate that.

[Omegaxam]

Hot voice.

Thanks for the guide.