First of all, can I remind you that belly dance is not historically a single dance but a complex of movement practices that extends from the Atlantic Ocean in North Africa and the Balkans in the west to the western areas of China, and Central Asia and the western portions of the Indian subcontinent in the east (Orientalism, Transnationalism and Harem Fantasy, eds. Anthony Shay & Barbara Sellers-Young, 2005, pp.102), and it is not a religious dance. [CONT. below]
So your reference to Muslim beliefs and to some vague allí is unhelpful and misleading, and shows little of the respect that you profess to feel. In case youre interested, Ozgen himself is Turkish (now based in the UK), and whilst many Turks are Muslims, not all are, and the Republic of Turkey is constitutionally secular. (And, as others have commented on the longer version of this clip, he is an amazing performer and an excellent teacher as well.) [CONT. below]
Secondly, the popular assumption that this is a female dance is completely inaccurate, based as it is on a Western / Hollywood version of the dance. But within the cultural life of the Middle East, the dance is performed privately as entertainment by men and women in segregated parties associated with life cycle rituals such as weddings (p.5) and male dancers as well as female dancers have been a fixture of everyday life from Casablanca to Tehran (p.10). [CONT. below]
If you want to find out more about this, I suggest you could start by reading Shays chapters in the book quoted above, where he emphasizes that the dance tradition has been equally shared by women and men [CONT. below]
and the notion of exclusively female professional dancers came as a result of colonial rule in which English, Russian, and French colonizers, whose male sensibilities were offended and scandalized by professional male dancers generally dressed in sexually ambiguous costumes, forced the colonial governments to ban their performances (Dunne 1996). Post-colonial stances continue to reinforce these attitudes. (pp.5-6)
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I saw the pic and thought it was a hot girl.
Men should NOT belly dance. (Feel free to disagree)
KingShahJahan 2 months ago
Just learnt this choreography yesterday with him and it was a real pleasure... Just and incredible man and one of the best bellydancers nowadays!
darkninfa7 1 year ago
Dear Gobiela, I was very dismayed to read your comments that only serve to continue widespread misunderstandings of belly dance. [CONT. below]
JoLSwansea 2 years ago
First of all, can I remind you that belly dance is not historically a single dance but a complex of movement practices that extends from the Atlantic Ocean in North Africa and the Balkans in the west to the western areas of China, and Central Asia and the western portions of the Indian subcontinent in the east (Orientalism, Transnationalism and Harem Fantasy, eds. Anthony Shay & Barbara Sellers-Young, 2005, pp.102), and it is not a religious dance. [CONT. below]
JoLSwansea 2 years ago
So your reference to Muslim beliefs and to some vague allí is unhelpful and misleading, and shows little of the respect that you profess to feel. In case youre interested, Ozgen himself is Turkish (now based in the UK), and whilst many Turks are Muslims, not all are, and the Republic of Turkey is constitutionally secular. (And, as others have commented on the longer version of this clip, he is an amazing performer and an excellent teacher as well.) [CONT. below]
JoLSwansea 2 years ago
Secondly, the popular assumption that this is a female dance is completely inaccurate, based as it is on a Western / Hollywood version of the dance. But within the cultural life of the Middle East, the dance is performed privately as entertainment by men and women in segregated parties associated with life cycle rituals such as weddings (p.5) and male dancers as well as female dancers have been a fixture of everyday life from Casablanca to Tehran (p.10). [CONT. below]
JoLSwansea 2 years ago
If you want to find out more about this, I suggest you could start by reading Shays chapters in the book quoted above, where he emphasizes that the dance tradition has been equally shared by women and men [CONT. below]
JoLSwansea 2 years ago
and the notion of exclusively female professional dancers came as a result of colonial rule in which English, Russian, and French colonizers, whose male sensibilities were offended and scandalized by professional male dancers generally dressed in sexually ambiguous costumes, forced the colonial governments to ban their performances (Dunne 1996). Post-colonial stances continue to reinforce these attitudes. (pp.5-6)
JoLSwansea 2 years ago 2
un hombre bailando así ofende el credo musulman
es un asco encontrar como muchos male bellydancers se burlan de estas costumbres, que yo no habiendo nacido allí respeto mucho.
giobela29 2 years ago
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Devindfgdf 2 years ago