If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
Nice work offering a truly rational discourse on the Atheist versus Theist debate, showing that both sides are at times guilty of absurdities and illogical dogmatic thinking.
@RupertAndCheese I see a lot of people saying "infinity is a physical impossibility", especially the great retard William Lane Craig. Please Wikipedia "Black Hole". At least to the best of our understanding of physics, the singularity at the center of a black hole does actually have real infinite density.
@htomerif What I mean is that I cannot DEMONSTRATE it, it is impossible to do so, that I know.
Also I'm kinda confused, did you mean to comment this on the other guy, or me?
Anyway, I didn't mean that infinity is impossible (I don't know that for certain), just that it's beyond reasonable capability to show an example of it.
@RupertAndCheese Yeah, actually, I meant to comment to the other guy. I dont know though. No, you cant have an infinite amount of yarn, or an infinitely big burrito, but there are a lot of mathematical concepts involving infinite and infinitesimal things that have easy to understand (relatively) real world applications. Indeed, having a continuum of any kind (a line, a piece of time, frequency, etc..) has some inherently infinite properties.
@RupertAndCheese Meh, yeah, kinda. Youre doing science a disservice though by saying that its mere speculation. General relativity has been verified to a lot of decimal places in a lot of experiments. These real infinities cant be observed in all their "infiniteness" with our eyes or ears, but you can experience infinity to the extent that you can call math a "sense".
"But the idea that these mutations build up the living world is so ridiculous."
Why is it not possible for you to educate yourself on what science ACTUALLY has to say about the role of random mutation in evolution, rather than this false statement you keep making over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?
Wow, this really illustrates the sick psychological issues going on in the minds of some of the more extreme atheists. Thanks for sharing. Now go seek help.
Ex:15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.
Nu:11:1 And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.
@circusOFprecision made sure to quote the chapter and verse, you claim to have read the book, but you now you cry "out of context", justify genocide with "context"?
You haven't even the slightest theological understanding of what that means. You might as well pick up a French book and quote from it. You're too willfully ignorant. If you want to learn, study theology, it's all been explained countless times from several different angles, none of which fit your pathetically uneducated understanding.
Religious fantasy advances in small steps by which those who already ‘see a higher truth’ help the less gifted to achieve that sublime state by using various devices. In Jewish tradition, one such a device was ‘midrash’, the teasing out of new, contemporary meanings from antique, sacred texts. By such means, the scribes could resolve a current issue by interpreting what the scripture had ‘really meant’ all along.
I could care less how you stereotype me or what you think of religion, I'm not selling anything, there's nothing to sell to closed minded, disgruntled intellectuals such as yourself. But until you have an argument that can actually hold water, you aren't refuting anything, you are just whining.
"You haven't even the slightest theological understanding of what that means. You might as well pick up a French book and quote from it. You're too willfully ignorant. If you want to learn, study theology, it's all been explained countless times from several different angles, none of which fit your pathetically uneducated understanding."
you seem to suffer from Cognitive Dissonance as well, pity.
I'm not claiming irrefutable "truth", or that you shouldn't be skeptical. But the fact that you quote mine the bible and demonstrate ZERO theological understanding tells me that you have no desire to be rational or logical about any of this. Instead you simply feel disdain and have suspended any capacity to reason here. So ask yourself, who is truly suffering from cognitive dissonance? Turn your skepticism on yourself every once in awhile, it could do you some good.
@circusOFprecision Curious, not defaulting to the view of a "Committee" equates to being "close-minded". "Theological Understanding" looks so much like "Intellectual Dishonesty", first the accusation of "not reading", then the accusation of "not reading it right", now you banter the words "rational", "logic" and "reason" around as if the meaning of them only conform to your particular interpretation.
The point is simple. Study theology for yourself, in depth. Look at what scholars have written about these biblical passages. Then will have something to say about it. Until then, all you are doing is complaining, subjectively, about how these passages make you feel. And I might add, all of this is being done to the tune of your atheism. You've already made up your mind. That isn't skepticism. In the end, you don't need to embrace religion. But at least you will understand it.
The point is simple. Study Biology for yourself, in depth. Look at what scholars have written about the science.
Then you will have something to say about it. Until then, all you are doing is complaining, subjectively, about how these sciences make you feel. And I might add, all of this is being done to the tune of your religious cult.
You've already made up your mind. That isn't skepticism. In the end, you don't need to embrace religion. But at least you will understand it.
@circusOFprecision Hmmm..... seems 15 years of Bible study and regular church attendance didn't take, does the writings of Bart Ehrman count? I'm pretty familiar with those.
No, you are talking about religion. I'm talking about scholarly works, especially those from ancient commentators and modern theologians who are also highly trained scientists and or philosophers. Bible study at church? Not to knock people practicing their right to religious freedom, but church bible studies are a joke, designed for the lowest common denominator.
You seem to think you are smarter than the scientists AND the pastors.
If you ever got your facts straight, or if even a decent percentage of your assertions turned out not to be false, someone might be tempted to agree with you.
But when someone as stupid as myself proves your assertions are false on a regular basis, the odds of that happening are slim to none--outside of the YECs and creatards who don't know any better, and have a similar political agenda as yours.
I don't think I'm smarter. Sunday school is designed for everyone, not someone seeking a deeper intellectual and spiritual understanding. Church gives a religious, cultural framework for a social understanding, not a robust one for an individual. So, in typical fashion, you completely and utterly fail to grasp the point. Sorry if my thoughts are too complicated for you.
I find it a relief that you don't actually try to assert that Evangelical dogma is literally true.
Only an idiot attempts such ridiculousness, and its easily refuted.
I just think its rather cocky--and naive--to think that their aren't fundamentalist experts out there who know the KJV inside and out--and would deny your assertions about it till the bitter end.
And, they use it to decry science--which neither they OR YOU have had any success at.
Watched a lecture where a gentleman, must look up his name again, brought a nice illustration of theology; If a monkey came across a book of scripture or literature or whatever all it would see is black lines and shapes, is the monkey wrong? no but that doesn't mean there isn't a higher meaning, if a small child came across the same book it might be able to read some words, but that doesn't mean there isn't higher meaning, it goes on to the adolescent and seasoned adult...
@circusOFprecision Now that I understand the difference of superstitious thinking, religious thinking and theological thinking, seeing that there are differences, in looking over some of these ideas that some theologians have put forward, I'm still very concerned about the prevalence of presupposition, then applying whatever evidence available to support that presupposition. Even with your assessment of an atheist "already made up my mind" as it were, how is one with no biases at a disadvantage
Theology and science are very different in that science doesn't make assertions based upon pressupositions, it makes hypotheses based upon assumptions. Those hypotheses may be a part of a larger theoretical framework, but they tend to be limited in their explanatory power. Theology is speaking on things far beyond that, not completely out of the reach of science, but science has to continue to move forward before it can really make definitive statements on these absolutes.
It seems to me that some atheists are characterizing these metaphysical and philosophical ideas upon religious dogma alone, in particular the religious dogma that has negative emotional effects. If there is an emotional basis only, and the best arguments have not been addressed, than of course atheism in these cases puts one at a rational disadvantage. But atheism, as in skepticism or even a strong agnosticism, is quite welcome in my opinion. But asserting a negative goes too far.
If a person is an atheist, but has looked at all sides of the argument and explored the strongest arguments without bias, than that is quite respectable. But when atheism is asserted true and defended only by attacking weak arguments or parodying religion, than it is not respectable. An intelligent atheist and an intelligent theist will actually tend to reason and agree far more than can usually be seen on the surface, in my opinion at least.
@circusOFprecision It is true that sound reasoning goes to similar places, despite what one might see on TBN religion has come quite a ways from "throw the virgin in the volcano" days. The troublesome thing is it's difficult to escape the soup of religion, I live in a former slave colony where 70% of the population believe in the Judeo-Christian god and 98% believe in something or another, it's hard not to project that particular narrative of a "top-down" god onto reality.
Theism (or spirituality of the sort that acknowledges a higher power) and religion are not equivalent. Religion is a cultural identity. Spirituality is a subjective journey. But spirituality without acknowledging a higher power is fake. Spiritual atheism, in my opinion, is a complete oxymoron, unless your Deity is a mindless process.
@circusOFprecision would that be so bad though? a mindless god. We are surrounded by examples of life with complex processes and elaborate behaviours yet we wouldn't constitute it as "intelligent", the quantum foam that connects everything might not be considered "concious" by any stretch of the definition. Our thoughts and memories are literally patterns of energy on a biological substrate, but we can't point to a single neuron and say, "that is the whole mind".
I look at it differently, I think the computational functions of the universe, if you could call them that, are the essence of "mind". There is an underlying unity. This fact is the reason why complex interacting/intercommunicating creatures emerge. The quantum foam is like static on your TV. But there is a non-material aspect that produces information. It's fundamental. Reducing to it is impossible because that is going in the wrong direction. Just my thoughts as of current.
@circusOFprecision I wouldn't say impossible, just highly difficult. If as the book says "we were created in god's image", and we imagine that the universe is one large organism (bare with me on this analogy), how could we conceive a way of communication? Our bodies are a veritable universe of cells forming, serving their purpose, then dying to make way for new cells to take over. How then would a few "self aware" cells communicate to the whole organism with limited communication channels?
Cells aren't necessarily self aware in the sense we understand, but do experience some form of cognition, calculation. The environment is communicating to our cells and vice versa all of the time. This has to be a conscious process, non-linear, where large amounts of information are stored and retrieved in the outcome of simple algorithms controlled by the cell. But again, it isn't nearly at the level of a human brain for obvious reasons.
@circusOFprecision I was referring to the "quantum foam" and particle-point neurology from nemos, and "static" from your post.
A monad (according to Liebniz) is, in the easiest to understand form, an atom. It's an atom of the soul/mind. Some are primal, some sensitive, and there are rational ones found solely in humans. As we live these monads fall off of us and we pick up new ones. Sometimes you can pick up other people's old monads. Monads aren't bound to space, so they can travel to the moon
@zunee27 the second they drop off. This leads to us all, at the monadic level, being interconnected through our soul and mind. Which also means that it's entirely possible for all of our monads to be interchanging in "instants", which would cause us all to think, feel, and rationalize in the exact (or "a manner in which we are the same") way. That of course doesn't happen, so it's not directly evident that there are monads. You're using a 300-year-old argument lol.
Are you saying that I am arguing for the existence of monads because I talk about intelligence as being fundamental to biological processes? There may be vague similarities to the philosophical undertones, but that isn't really my argument. Living systems are dynamic, computational entities. Of course each organism doesn't have the exact same experience, but the similarities are well established and correlated to their respective "material" processes.
@circusOFprecision "I think the computational functions of the universe, if you could call them that, are the essence of "mind"... The quantum foam is like static on your TV. But there is a non-material aspect that produces information." Did you even read your comment?
The problem lies with your propensity to create gibberish in your never ending quest to somehow justify your religious opinions by SOUNDING scientific--and yet providing zero science.
The gibberish has its origin in the mush between your ears.
Philosophy based on pseudo-science? No thanks. There are logical, rational, scientific reasons why God is a legitimate hypothesis. It has nothing to do with my wants, needs, or religious opinions. Do yourself a favor and read Flew's book. He was an avid atheist who put forth the best arguments there have ever been for athiesm. But I guess he realized at some point that he was wrong. You are so closed minded though, you will refuse to challenge your dogma sadly.
There you go again, the master apostate, the super equivocator. When you speak of these kinds of general things, claiming that biology says this, or science says that, you are not actually telling me what either of these bodies of knowledge say. You will get it one day, but not without a price. When you realize how arrogant and closed minded you are, it's going to be a shock for you.
Random mutation of the gaps. It's funny how once microbiologists started learning about how genetic information was manipulated and controlled, the randomness quickly began to recede into the darkness. It's kind of like a God of the Gaps type argument. Do random mutations occur? I suppose so. No genetic system is perfect. But the idea that these mutations build up the living world is so ridiculous I can't believe a rational person like you continues to believe it.
if good hates atheists and gays why would he create them in the first place? and XD good is a total douche. And cosidering that jesus was a jew 2000 years ago it's impossible thet he never had children his family would've arranged a marriage.
@eleminatus Didn't he and the rest of the trinity magically appear in front of a bunch of atheists, smite a bunch of them including Dawkins, and then reassure us that He loves us unless He doesn't? Sounds just like Him to me.
That is blasphemy, and the wrath is Gods light that is harmless to the ones who have Yahweh in them, but is wrath to those who when on earth wanted to give wrath to whoever, and hence end up greeting what they wanted to give.
Blasphemy is doing, and saying bad things humans thinking they do not need to repent, and hence are not forgiven, and whosoever also does not forgive whoever of anything. Hence how can God forgi9ve them. The one who has Jesus in them will forgive as easily as water flows down a river. Devils lust to say bad things through humans like we want to eat a pizza. Humans weary the holy spirit, and cause him to leave whoever, and hence the sin of their actions kills their soul along with their body.
God in this video is acting like a roman god of war. The God in this video is boastful,and egocentric like Satan. The same god the Catholics worship.3:59, When you do bad to the least of those my brethren you are doing bad to Jesus in a human being. The being doing the harm is Satan showing himself to be an angel of light, but is a demon of darkness The Catholics bow to this false god, and legal system, and military are idols to including the Clothes not accepting the human without them.
@gargamel6699@gargamel6699 Yes I have, the king James version only. I know the forgiving, giving, merciful, God who is Jesus in the new in the flesh so God could walk among lightless men, and not obliterate them. .I know the truth where falsehood from devils has otherwise been spoken. Truth brings peace, but falsehood brings the things humans complain about.
God in this video is acting like the idolization roman,and Greek gods of war. That is the same god the Catholics worship.3:59, When you do bad to the least of those my brethren you are doing bad to Jesus in a human being. The being doing the harm is Satan showing himself to be an angel of light, but is a demon of darkness The Catholics bow to this false god, and legal system, and military are idols to including the Clothes not accepting the human without them.
Psalm 14,1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The verse on this video is a perversion. Abominable works, are:Proverbs 12 22Lying lips are abomination to the LORD :unfair balance too. Whore is not sex. Israel whored after idols, and who whores after idols will end up relying on physical might killing trying to save the body in war sacrificing humans thinking it is good.
I didn't enjoy this. It really wasn't funny enough. The premise was potentially funny, but it just wasn't worth watching. All the same, I think whoever did this definitely has talent and can do better with similar material in the future.
you have created an amazing straw man there, and then from your ignorance you have built up and wrong image, then because of this you can blow it down... i should congratulate you on missing the point so amazingly well
uummm.... God is able to make a rock that cant lift. but that doesnt mean that he cant make himself strong enough to lift it. that athiest logic is retarted and stupid
@EnterdaTube It's the paradox of omnipotence. If one is omnipotent, he can do anything. Like create a unliftable rock, even by him. But if he can't lift it, he isn't omnipotent. Omnipotence is impossible. Now if you're god does exist, he probably is powerful. But not omnipotent. And when you disagree with something, give your arguments, instead of just saying it's dipshit or whatnot. That way, you won't sound as stupid when someone corrects you.
@gilless429 .......i gave my point with my statement.... first of all i dont know weather there is a God or not. second, an omnipotent God is possible because it is possible to make a pebble that cant be lifted if desired when the whole time God is still able to lift the pebble. its not a paradox and no i dont seem stupid lol if need be allow me to explain myself further. the power to lift the pebble is always there, God just made himself weak for sometime to not be able to lift it......
@EnterdaTube Sorry, no. It doesn't matter why he would be unable to lift the pebble. If he can't do it, he's not omnipotent at that moment. Besides, if he only temporarily made himself unable to lift it, then sooner or later he would be able to lift it, therefore he never was actually able to make a rock he couldn't lift.
@EnterdaTube If he made a rock large enough for him to not be able to lift, then he couldn't lift it. If he made himself stronger, than that rock is no longer to large to life and therefore didn't actually make a rock that he couldn't lift, because he could. Your god is a fallacy, just accept it.
@Shika511 ooowwww do i sense another debate with my logic :) ill message you. and to make things clear idk if God is there or not i just believe that omnipotence is possible. perhaps i can learn from you. im sending you a message.
@fLRedSpade no i mean literally, even being open minded with facts. you still develop your view points. like i can think the world is flat and it will be just because i make it for myself. i mean in reality, you cant judge that all existence is a big circle. in the end, all we can go by are facts and assumptions. though people can develop different facts as in looking at a tree and thinking its a pig. the fact is that an object is there but perception can vastly vary.
@fLRedSpade so if im an idiot then your calling the baby chick an idiot when the first thing it sees is a human then calls it mama. in ancient times brothers and sisters use to marry, are you callin them idiots? are you callin all religious people idiots? judge and ye shall be judged.....>_>........ no ones an idiot bro. everyone has there reasons.
@fLRedSpade have fun believing him if i dont believe? 0_0 hm believe what you want >_> my point is clear to both of us. i dont mean karma i mean if you judge someone then someone else can judge you for judging and what does judging mean? it means that you think you know when no one in reality actually knows >_>. whether im smart or not is your perception. i can go on all day about why everyone is smart no matter how dumb they may seem and vise versa with idiot >_>
@fLRedSpade so your seriously gona waste your time calling me an idiot with no intention at all in helping me or expressing your own truth in any way. im not on drugs and im not an idiot >_> how amuzing lol
@fLRedSpade you must accept everything in existence for you are apart of every consciousness and also a section of everything. indeed religion is now a hinderance but it was still a step towards truth. and i do believe that there is a perfect truth and im constantly getting closer to it. i will understand it before i die.
everytime i hear the rock logic i relise whoever is using it has no idea what he is talking about, that statment is good for first graders, not for intelligent people...
@crissxxx 1 - When you use that logic in a serious descussion its shows you don't understand the concept of lifting\gravity\mass of things, its like thinking earth is the only thing in the univers and lifting somthing can be hard, the second and more important reason is because it's just like the lieing paradox : "i always lie" its sort of a trick. third you can always be answered god is omnipetent with the exception of creating a "can't do" pardox which he cannot do :) .
lol atheists are baby eaters
chatanwarrior 13 minutes ago
nonstampcollector, theramintrees, darkmatter2525, and the likes of them all make way better vids
scowley86 3 days ago
was the form of the Holy Spirit here based on American Dad?
InverseAgonist 1 week ago
WTF.
IsaacOfWolfbreed 1 week ago
This cartoon is anti everyone!
JWPFoggers 3 weeks ago
Jesus was sacrificed lol he died in battle
iliveon 3 weeks ago
If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
23rock3 1 month ago
Go into atheist video. Start argument.
Ricoh6502 1 month ago
@Ricoh6502 ???. Profit!
sirpancherto 1 month ago
Nice work offering a truly rational discourse on the Atheist versus Theist debate, showing that both sides are at times guilty of absurdities and illogical dogmatic thinking.
Oh yeah it was pretty funny too.
TheAnonymousAnomie 1 month ago
To be fair, that logical 'paradox' isn't actually a paradox, the smallest bit of logical thinking shows that.
Can't make a rock that is MORE than infinitely heavy, but can make and lift rocks of infinite mass. DONE!
RupertAndCheese 1 month ago
@RupertAndCheese Demonstrate the existence of infinity.
Gorgormcgor 2 weeks ago
@Gorgormcgor Impossible, but since this is a hypothetical to do with the existence of god, infinity has to be assumed.
Just so you know, I am an Atheist, I'm not trying top prove god, I'm just saying that it isn't actually a paradox.
RupertAndCheese 2 weeks ago
@RupertAndCheese I see a lot of people saying "infinity is a physical impossibility", especially the great retard William Lane Craig. Please Wikipedia "Black Hole". At least to the best of our understanding of physics, the singularity at the center of a black hole does actually have real infinite density.
htomerif 2 weeks ago
@htomerif What I mean is that I cannot DEMONSTRATE it, it is impossible to do so, that I know.
Also I'm kinda confused, did you mean to comment this on the other guy, or me?
Anyway, I didn't mean that infinity is impossible (I don't know that for certain), just that it's beyond reasonable capability to show an example of it.
RupertAndCheese 1 week ago
@RupertAndCheese Yeah, actually, I meant to comment to the other guy. I dont know though. No, you cant have an infinite amount of yarn, or an infinitely big burrito, but there are a lot of mathematical concepts involving infinite and infinitesimal things that have easy to understand (relatively) real world applications. Indeed, having a continuum of any kind (a line, a piece of time, frequency, etc..) has some inherently infinite properties.
htomerif 1 week ago
@htomerif We simply do not understand enough about the universe to know these things, any statement about these things is but speculation :>
RupertAndCheese 1 week ago
@RupertAndCheese Meh, yeah, kinda. Youre doing science a disservice though by saying that its mere speculation. General relativity has been verified to a lot of decimal places in a lot of experiments. These real infinities cant be observed in all their "infiniteness" with our eyes or ears, but you can experience infinity to the extent that you can call math a "sense".
htomerif 1 week ago
@htomerif Yeah I suppose it does imply a sort of stupidity...
And agreed :)
RupertAndCheese 1 week ago
@Gorgormcgor Sorry, comment to the wrong person. The singularity at the center of a black hole has infinite density. caio.
htomerif 2 weeks ago
I'm going to hell for liking this.
JamesonGraber 1 month ago
Ive got lots of logic, so I'm safe.
Vierzbanator 2 months ago
What you seem to fail to recognize is that NONE of this new work from Shapiro could have come from seminary, Sunday Scholl, or the Kent Hovind camp.
It is a direct descendant of--not a contradiction to--the very thing which your are calling "pseudoscience"...
odinata 2 months ago
"But the idea that these mutations build up the living world is so ridiculous."
Why is it not possible for you to educate yourself on what science ACTUALLY has to say about the role of random mutation in evolution, rather than this false statement you keep making over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?
odinata 2 months ago
Believing in the tooth fairy does not equal being "open minded".
Why don't you try to open your mind to something other than the Evangelical hogwash you've been slopped with since birth?
odinata 2 months ago
""I think the computational functions of the universe, if you could call them that, are the essence of "mind"..."
A hahhahhahhahahhahhahhahahhahahhaha!
odinata 2 months ago
LOGIC IS FOR PUSSYS LMFAOOOOO
liman244 2 months ago
Somebody needs to make a Happy Wheels level out of this. ^_^
TheBiAtheist 2 months ago
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"I love you with all my heart!
But piss me off, and I'll fuck you off."
"oh hell yeah."
TheGuilanvi 2 months ago
As my beloved tamtampamela said: "I love you, god!"
BuvayDeNaly 2 months ago
@MrArpas123
How can I follow what I can't see?
fiveup7 3 months ago
Dear God,
Come at me bro!
Sincerely,
Ready to be Smitten
fiveup7 3 months ago
well damn.... lol
fratbrotha 3 months ago
Wow, this really illustrates the sick psychological issues going on in the minds of some of the more extreme atheists. Thanks for sharing. Now go seek help.
circusOFprecision 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision And what "psychological issues" would those be?
pamew 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision Read the bible lately?
lordnemos 3 months ago
@lordnemos
Last time I did, I read nothing about God floating around shotgunning people and eating money. Have you ever read the bible? Apparently not.
circusOFprecision 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Don't take it so personally.
The god of the bible is a imaginary character in in a fairytale.
Its not real.
odinata 3 months ago
@odinata
Thanks for your opinion. Duly noted.
circusOFprecision 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Ex:15:26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Ex:22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@lordnemos
What's your point? You are going to be utterly destroyed and your atoms will inhabit the dirt eventually. That's a promise.
circusOFprecision 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision Point is: if an iron-age Palestinian knew what a "shot-gun" was, "god" would have one, probably made of gold and fore-skins.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Ex:22:24 And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Nu:11:1 And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Nu:14:12 I will smite them with the pestilence, and disinherit them, and will make of thee a greater nation and mightier than they.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Jos:6:19 But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@lordnemos
And...? Quoting out of context gets you nowhere.
circusOFprecision 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision made sure to quote the chapter and verse, you claim to have read the book, but you now you cry "out of context", justify genocide with "context"?
lordnemos 3 months ago
@lordnemos
You haven't even the slightest theological understanding of what that means. You might as well pick up a French book and quote from it. You're too willfully ignorant. If you want to learn, study theology, it's all been explained countless times from several different angles, none of which fit your pathetically uneducated understanding.
circusOFprecision 3 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Religious fantasy advances in small steps by which those who already ‘see a higher truth’ help the less gifted to achieve that sublime state by using various devices. In Jewish tradition, one such a device was ‘midrash’, the teasing out of new, contemporary meanings from antique, sacred texts. By such means, the scribes could resolve a current issue by interpreting what the scripture had ‘really meant’ all along.
I'm not buying what you and your ilk are selling.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@lordnemos
I could care less how you stereotype me or what you think of religion, I'm not selling anything, there's nothing to sell to closed minded, disgruntled intellectuals such as yourself. But until you have an argument that can actually hold water, you aren't refuting anything, you are just whining.
circusOFprecision 3 months ago
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@circusOFprecision
"You haven't even the slightest theological understanding of what that means. You might as well pick up a French book and quote from it. You're too willfully ignorant. If you want to learn, study theology, it's all been explained countless times from several different angles, none of which fit your pathetically uneducated understanding."
you seem to suffer from Cognitive Dissonance as well, pity.
lordnemos 3 months ago
@lordnemos
I'm not claiming irrefutable "truth", or that you shouldn't be skeptical. But the fact that you quote mine the bible and demonstrate ZERO theological understanding tells me that you have no desire to be rational or logical about any of this. Instead you simply feel disdain and have suspended any capacity to reason here. So ask yourself, who is truly suffering from cognitive dissonance? Turn your skepticism on yourself every once in awhile, it could do you some good.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision Curious, not defaulting to the view of a "Committee" equates to being "close-minded". "Theological Understanding" looks so much like "Intellectual Dishonesty", first the accusation of "not reading", then the accusation of "not reading it right", now you banter the words "rational", "logic" and "reason" around as if the meaning of them only conform to your particular interpretation.
lordnemos 2 months ago
@lordnemos
The point is simple. Study theology for yourself, in depth. Look at what scholars have written about these biblical passages. Then will have something to say about it. Until then, all you are doing is complaining, subjectively, about how these passages make you feel. And I might add, all of this is being done to the tune of your atheism. You've already made up your mind. That isn't skepticism. In the end, you don't need to embrace religion. But at least you will understand it.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFblind
The point is simple. Study Biology for yourself, in depth. Look at what scholars have written about the science.
Then you will have something to say about it. Until then, all you are doing is complaining, subjectively, about how these sciences make you feel. And I might add, all of this is being done to the tune of your religious cult.
You've already made up your mind. That isn't skepticism. In the end, you don't need to embrace religion. But at least you will understand it.
odinata 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision Hmmm..... seems 15 years of Bible study and regular church attendance didn't take, does the writings of Bart Ehrman count? I'm pretty familiar with those.
lordnemos 2 months ago
@lordnemos
No, you are talking about religion. I'm talking about scholarly works, especially those from ancient commentators and modern theologians who are also highly trained scientists and or philosophers. Bible study at church? Not to knock people practicing their right to religious freedom, but church bible studies are a joke, designed for the lowest common denominator.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
You seem to think you are smarter than the scientists AND the pastors.
If you ever got your facts straight, or if even a decent percentage of your assertions turned out not to be false, someone might be tempted to agree with you.
But when someone as stupid as myself proves your assertions are false on a regular basis, the odds of that happening are slim to none--outside of the YECs and creatards who don't know any better, and have a similar political agenda as yours.
odinata 2 months ago
@odinata
I don't think I'm smarter. Sunday school is designed for everyone, not someone seeking a deeper intellectual and spiritual understanding. Church gives a religious, cultural framework for a social understanding, not a robust one for an individual. So, in typical fashion, you completely and utterly fail to grasp the point. Sorry if my thoughts are too complicated for you.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
You blatantly ASSERT that you are smarter than just about everyone you engage here.
"Sorry if my thoughts are too complicated for you..."
Quite the contrary--that's why I find it so easy to refute them.
odinata 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Don't get me wrong, circus.
I find it a relief that you don't actually try to assert that Evangelical dogma is literally true.
Only an idiot attempts such ridiculousness, and its easily refuted.
I just think its rather cocky--and naive--to think that their aren't fundamentalist experts out there who know the KJV inside and out--and would deny your assertions about it till the bitter end.
And, they use it to decry science--which neither they OR YOU have had any success at.
odinata 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Watched a lecture where a gentleman, must look up his name again, brought a nice illustration of theology; If a monkey came across a book of scripture or literature or whatever all it would see is black lines and shapes, is the monkey wrong? no but that doesn't mean there isn't a higher meaning, if a small child came across the same book it might be able to read some words, but that doesn't mean there isn't higher meaning, it goes on to the adolescent and seasoned adult...
lordnemos 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision I get what he was trying to say and I understand what you were trying to get across, I apologise for my misjudgement of you.
lordnemos 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision Now that I understand the difference of superstitious thinking, religious thinking and theological thinking, seeing that there are differences, in looking over some of these ideas that some theologians have put forward, I'm still very concerned about the prevalence of presupposition, then applying whatever evidence available to support that presupposition. Even with your assessment of an atheist "already made up my mind" as it were, how is one with no biases at a disadvantage
lordnemos 2 months ago
@lordnemos
Theology and science are very different in that science doesn't make assertions based upon pressupositions, it makes hypotheses based upon assumptions. Those hypotheses may be a part of a larger theoretical framework, but they tend to be limited in their explanatory power. Theology is speaking on things far beyond that, not completely out of the reach of science, but science has to continue to move forward before it can really make definitive statements on these absolutes.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@lordnemos
It seems to me that some atheists are characterizing these metaphysical and philosophical ideas upon religious dogma alone, in particular the religious dogma that has negative emotional effects. If there is an emotional basis only, and the best arguments have not been addressed, than of course atheism in these cases puts one at a rational disadvantage. But atheism, as in skepticism or even a strong agnosticism, is quite welcome in my opinion. But asserting a negative goes too far.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@lordnemos
If a person is an atheist, but has looked at all sides of the argument and explored the strongest arguments without bias, than that is quite respectable. But when atheism is asserted true and defended only by attacking weak arguments or parodying religion, than it is not respectable. An intelligent atheist and an intelligent theist will actually tend to reason and agree far more than can usually be seen on the surface, in my opinion at least.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision It is true that sound reasoning goes to similar places, despite what one might see on TBN religion has come quite a ways from "throw the virgin in the volcano" days. The troublesome thing is it's difficult to escape the soup of religion, I live in a former slave colony where 70% of the population believe in the Judeo-Christian god and 98% believe in something or another, it's hard not to project that particular narrative of a "top-down" god onto reality.
lordnemos 2 months ago
@lordnemos
Theism (or spirituality of the sort that acknowledges a higher power) and religion are not equivalent. Religion is a cultural identity. Spirituality is a subjective journey. But spirituality without acknowledging a higher power is fake. Spiritual atheism, in my opinion, is a complete oxymoron, unless your Deity is a mindless process.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision would that be so bad though? a mindless god. We are surrounded by examples of life with complex processes and elaborate behaviours yet we wouldn't constitute it as "intelligent", the quantum foam that connects everything might not be considered "concious" by any stretch of the definition. Our thoughts and memories are literally patterns of energy on a biological substrate, but we can't point to a single neuron and say, "that is the whole mind".
lordnemos 2 months ago
@lordnemos
I look at it differently, I think the computational functions of the universe, if you could call them that, are the essence of "mind". There is an underlying unity. This fact is the reason why complex interacting/intercommunicating creatures emerge. The quantum foam is like static on your TV. But there is a non-material aspect that produces information. It's fundamental. Reducing to it is impossible because that is going in the wrong direction. Just my thoughts as of current.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision I wouldn't say impossible, just highly difficult. If as the book says "we were created in god's image", and we imagine that the universe is one large organism (bare with me on this analogy), how could we conceive a way of communication? Our bodies are a veritable universe of cells forming, serving their purpose, then dying to make way for new cells to take over. How then would a few "self aware" cells communicate to the whole organism with limited communication channels?
lordnemos 2 months ago
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@lordnemos
Cells aren't necessarily self aware in the sense we understand, but do experience some form of cognition, calculation. The environment is communicating to our cells and vice versa all of the time. This has to be a conscious process, non-linear, where large amounts of information are stored and retrieved in the outcome of simple algorithms controlled by the cell. But again, it isn't nearly at the level of a human brain for obvious reasons.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision Read "The Monadology". You get proven wrong. So does lordnemos.
zunee27 2 months ago
@zunee27
What's being proven wrong? And what is the proof?
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision I was referring to the "quantum foam" and particle-point neurology from nemos, and "static" from your post.
A monad (according to Liebniz) is, in the easiest to understand form, an atom. It's an atom of the soul/mind. Some are primal, some sensitive, and there are rational ones found solely in humans. As we live these monads fall off of us and we pick up new ones. Sometimes you can pick up other people's old monads. Monads aren't bound to space, so they can travel to the moon
zunee27 2 months ago
@zunee27 the second they drop off. This leads to us all, at the monadic level, being interconnected through our soul and mind. Which also means that it's entirely possible for all of our monads to be interchanging in "instants", which would cause us all to think, feel, and rationalize in the exact (or "a manner in which we are the same") way. That of course doesn't happen, so it's not directly evident that there are monads. You're using a 300-year-old argument lol.
zunee27 2 months ago
@zunee27
Are you saying that I am arguing for the existence of monads because I talk about intelligence as being fundamental to biological processes? There may be vague similarities to the philosophical undertones, but that isn't really my argument. Living systems are dynamic, computational entities. Of course each organism doesn't have the exact same experience, but the similarities are well established and correlated to their respective "material" processes.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision "I think the computational functions of the universe, if you could call them that, are the essence of "mind"... The quantum foam is like static on your TV. But there is a non-material aspect that produces information." Did you even read your comment?
zunee27 2 months ago
@zunee27
Yes, I thought it, wrote it, and read it. Did you even understand it? That's the question.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
He's kinda got you there.
It's gibberish.
odinata 2 months ago
@odinata
If it's gibberish, the problem lies with you. Kind of like Chinese is probably gibberish to you.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
The problem lies with your propensity to create gibberish in your never ending quest to somehow justify your religious opinions by SOUNDING scientific--and yet providing zero science.
The gibberish has its origin in the mush between your ears.
odinata 2 months ago
@odinata
I will leave you with this suggestion. Go read There Is A God by Antony Flew.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Go read:
"Yes Virginia, There is a Santa Claus", by Francis Pharcellus Church
You are attempting to force fit your religious opinions into the scientific world.
It doesn't work.
odinata 2 months ago
@odinata
Philosophy based on pseudo-science? No thanks. There are logical, rational, scientific reasons why God is a legitimate hypothesis. It has nothing to do with my wants, needs, or religious opinions. Do yourself a favor and read Flew's book. He was an avid atheist who put forth the best arguments there have ever been for athiesm. But I guess he realized at some point that he was wrong. You are so closed minded though, you will refuse to challenge your dogma sadly.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Biology isn't a psuedoscience.
Science isn't dogma.
Your opinions, on the other hand, are so unyielding despite the LACK of ANY evidence that DOGMA can be the only term that describes them.
In fact, there isn't any science that includes supernatural explanations for natural phenomena.
That would be psuedoscience.
And that is what you propose.
You have not demonstrated a shred of evidence for any gods.
You seem to be ashamed to admit which one you believe in.
odinata 2 months ago
@odinata
There you go again, the master apostate, the super equivocator. When you speak of these kinds of general things, claiming that biology says this, or science says that, you are not actually telling me what either of these bodies of knowledge say. You will get it one day, but not without a price. When you realize how arrogant and closed minded you are, it's going to be a shock for you.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
You have plenty of complaints, but you just can't seem to get the science to fit your religious opinion.
All you really have is disgust for those who aren't buying your religious opinions.
Even Shapiro acknowledges that random mutations occur--so it obviously isn't "pseudoscience".
That's just a term you use because it has so effectively been used (and accurately) against you and the rest of the Discovery Institute shills.
odinata 2 months ago
@odinata
Random mutation of the gaps. It's funny how once microbiologists started learning about how genetic information was manipulated and controlled, the randomness quickly began to recede into the darkness. It's kind of like a God of the Gaps type argument. Do random mutations occur? I suppose so. No genetic system is perfect. But the idea that these mutations build up the living world is so ridiculous I can't believe a rational person like you continues to believe it.
circusOFprecision 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
You still can't grasp the concept of where mutation fits in to evolution?
Or you realize that your argument that it is the primary mover of evolution is a STRAWMAN, and thus recognize that bullshit argument is finished.?
Which is it?
odinata 2 months ago
@circusOFprecision
Yeah, you definitely need gullible, needy, unintellectuals to sell your BS to.....
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youneekk 3 months ago
If God were this awesome, I might reconsider being a Christian!
IseeRightThrough2you 3 months ago
oh hell ye!!
duminicad 4 months ago
The end is amazing! :)
mesonparticle 4 months ago
love it
Tanvir6079 4 months ago
if good hates atheists and gays why would he create them in the first place? and XD good is a total douche. And cosidering that jesus was a jew 2000 years ago it's impossible thet he never had children his family would've arranged a marriage.
ArbrusMN 5 months ago
Hahahaha "LET ME LOVE YOU!" bam! *dead* hehehe that is just the way it goes in the Bible
caralhoman 5 months ago 11
How come atheist call themselves that way when they know a lot about God in these videos...
jolleeseplaire 5 months ago
@jolleeseplaire because unlike christians they read the bible.
Unknnnnn 5 months ago
@jolleeseplaire
What unknnnnnnnnn say.
Nicolasduca 4 months ago
Didn't this animation just prove that God exists?
ChipArgyle 5 months ago
@ChipArgyle how?
eleminatus 5 months ago
@eleminatus Didn't he and the rest of the trinity magically appear in front of a bunch of atheists, smite a bunch of them including Dawkins, and then reassure us that He loves us unless He doesn't? Sounds just like Him to me.
ChipArgyle 5 months ago
@ChipArgyle emm... yeah... in a cartoon!
eleminatus 5 months ago
@eleminatus Agreed. It's a cartoon. I mentioned that in my first comment.
ChipArgyle 5 months ago
@ChipArgyle how? I must have missed that?
TheAstroSteve 4 months ago
@TheAstroSteve I forgot to turn on the sarcasm font when I commented.
ChipArgyle 4 months ago 3
Genius!! Is there gonna be a proper series of this cartoon?
19822andy 5 months ago
Love the yamaka.
Airmanf7 6 months ago
In the bible, Jesus was way more of a pussy than that.... and he had 36c breast implants (his dad gave them to him for his 21st birthday)
dave474c 6 months ago
This is great! For foooks sakes when is this going to be on TV. Because it's on par with South Park.
20thlvlwiz 6 months ago
¿oʇsǝnb ǝɔıp ol ıɥɔ
Freedomismyreligion 6 months ago
That is blasphemy, and the wrath is Gods light that is harmless to the ones who have Yahweh in them, but is wrath to those who when on earth wanted to give wrath to whoever, and hence end up greeting what they wanted to give.
kobidobidog 6 months ago
Blasphemy is doing, and saying bad things humans thinking they do not need to repent, and hence are not forgiven, and whosoever also does not forgive whoever of anything. Hence how can God forgi9ve them. The one who has Jesus in them will forgive as easily as water flows down a river. Devils lust to say bad things through humans like we want to eat a pizza. Humans weary the holy spirit, and cause him to leave whoever, and hence the sin of their actions kills their soul along with their body.
kobidobidog 6 months ago
Truly tasteless! Loved the 'Hell' out of it!
darkknight9761 6 months ago
I demandz a second episode!
xtremejohnny69 6 months ago
I'm Atheist and i was laughing my head off!
Conan939 6 months ago
I'm the Lord your god and I love you with all my heart, but piss me off....and I'll fuck you up..
adrianglennbionat 6 months ago
God in this video is acting like a roman god of war. The God in this video is boastful,and egocentric like Satan. The same god the Catholics worship.3:59, When you do bad to the least of those my brethren you are doing bad to Jesus in a human being. The being doing the harm is Satan showing himself to be an angel of light, but is a demon of darkness The Catholics bow to this false god, and legal system, and military are idols to including the Clothes not accepting the human without them.
kobidobidog 7 months ago
@kobidobidog
What?! Have you even read the bible?
gargamel6699 6 months ago
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kobidobidog 6 months ago
@gargamel6699 @gargamel6699 Yes I have, the king James version only. I know the forgiving, giving, merciful, God who is Jesus in the new in the flesh so God could walk among lightless men, and not obliterate them. .I know the truth where falsehood from devils has otherwise been spoken. Truth brings peace, but falsehood brings the things humans complain about.
kobidobidog 6 months ago
God in this video is acting like the idolization roman,and Greek gods of war. That is the same god the Catholics worship.3:59, When you do bad to the least of those my brethren you are doing bad to Jesus in a human being. The being doing the harm is Satan showing himself to be an angel of light, but is a demon of darkness The Catholics bow to this false god, and legal system, and military are idols to including the Clothes not accepting the human without them.
kobidobidog 7 months ago
Psalm 14,1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The verse on this video is a perversion. Abominable works, are:Proverbs 12 22Lying lips are abomination to the LORD :unfair balance too. Whore is not sex. Israel whored after idols, and who whores after idols will end up relying on physical might killing trying to save the body in war sacrificing humans thinking it is good.
kobidobidog 7 months ago
This video converted me
Porkytool5 7 months ago
"Logic is for pussies!" lmao
chicarbiomed 7 months ago
really yo, God needs steriods LMAO
lilchris10kid 7 months ago
I didn't enjoy this. It really wasn't funny enough. The premise was potentially funny, but it just wasn't worth watching. All the same, I think whoever did this definitely has talent and can do better with similar material in the future.
formless777 7 months ago
... was a dark day for atheists
rangergxi 8 months ago
"Let me love you!!!" haha
"- I love you with all my heart
-Yeah
-But piss me off you and I'll fuck you all
-Hell yeah"
haha Genius, hilarious
EngLhag 8 months ago
Jesus Christ is a pussy UhaAUhAUhaAUhaUha
EngLhag 8 months ago
@PaulineLovesPhysics wernt you paying attention to the video?logic is for pussies....
BrainMaster1000 8 months ago
This video is fucking retarded....not funny at all.
nickrd182 8 months ago
you have created an amazing straw man there, and then from your ignorance you have built up and wrong image, then because of this you can blow it down... i should congratulate you on missing the point so amazingly well
peaceandwar 9 months ago
Aaaaaah Ignorance is bliss.
xXSoulsXx 9 months ago
loved it. great work
RaggedM88 9 months ago
God with a shotgun. Can omnipotence ever be more awesome than this?
Samura1gamer 9 months ago 13
u shud turn this video into a star wars esque parody i would totaly shit a brick :D
sonicsoul0 9 months ago
This vid has so many epic lines..."Logic is for pussies"..."Piss me off, 'n I'll fuck you up"...
volgaize 9 months ago
yay!
shadywolf91 10 months ago
Chuck Norris? Is that you?
Fawnaleigh 10 months ago
uummm.... God is able to make a rock that cant lift. but that doesnt mean that he cant make himself strong enough to lift it. that athiest logic is retarted and stupid
EnterdaTube 10 months ago
@EnterdaTube It's the paradox of omnipotence. If one is omnipotent, he can do anything. Like create a unliftable rock, even by him. But if he can't lift it, he isn't omnipotent. Omnipotence is impossible. Now if you're god does exist, he probably is powerful. But not omnipotent. And when you disagree with something, give your arguments, instead of just saying it's dipshit or whatnot. That way, you won't sound as stupid when someone corrects you.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 .......i gave my point with my statement.... first of all i dont know weather there is a God or not. second, an omnipotent God is possible because it is possible to make a pebble that cant be lifted if desired when the whole time God is still able to lift the pebble. its not a paradox and no i dont seem stupid lol if need be allow me to explain myself further. the power to lift the pebble is always there, God just made himself weak for sometime to not be able to lift it......
EnterdaTube 10 months ago
@EnterdaTube Argument.......On ! But with PMs like you asked.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 coolios thumbsup.... this video still is funny though HA
EnterdaTube 10 months ago
@EnterdaTube Sorry, no. It doesn't matter why he would be unable to lift the pebble. If he can't do it, he's not omnipotent at that moment. Besides, if he only temporarily made himself unable to lift it, then sooner or later he would be able to lift it, therefore he never was actually able to make a rock he couldn't lift.
PumpingSmashkins 9 months ago
@EnterdaTube If he made a rock large enough for him to not be able to lift, then he couldn't lift it. If he made himself stronger, than that rock is no longer to large to life and therefore didn't actually make a rock that he couldn't lift, because he could. Your god is a fallacy, just accept it.
Shika511 9 months ago
@Shika511 ooowwww do i sense another debate with my logic :) ill message you. and to make things clear idk if God is there or not i just believe that omnipotence is possible. perhaps i can learn from you. im sending you a message.
EnterdaTube 9 months ago
@EnterdaTube
Have fun praising the magical wizard up in the sky, I really dont care
fLRedSpade 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade wow i progressed this much in just a month XD 0_0..... anyway, no matter what you do you cant disprove a view point.
EnterdaTube 8 months ago
@EnterdaTube
I think theres a word for that, its called being closed minded lol
fLRedSpade 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade no i mean literally, even being open minded with facts. you still develop your view points. like i can think the world is flat and it will be just because i make it for myself. i mean in reality, you cant judge that all existence is a big circle. in the end, all we can go by are facts and assumptions. though people can develop different facts as in looking at a tree and thinking its a pig. the fact is that an object is there but perception can vastly vary.
EnterdaTube 8 months ago
@EnterdaTube
youre a fucking idiot
fLRedSpade 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade so if im an idiot then your calling the baby chick an idiot when the first thing it sees is a human then calls it mama. in ancient times brothers and sisters use to marry, are you callin them idiots? are you callin all religious people idiots? judge and ye shall be judged.....>_>........ no ones an idiot bro. everyone has there reasons.
EnterdaTube 8 months ago
@EnterdaTube
"judge and ye shall be judged" you mean karma? lol
"everyone has THEIR reasons." preeetty sure youre not that smart.
Anyways, have fun believing in a magical wizard who sends his children to hell if you dont believe in him.
fLRedSpade 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade have fun believing him if i dont believe? 0_0 hm believe what you want >_> my point is clear to both of us. i dont mean karma i mean if you judge someone then someone else can judge you for judging and what does judging mean? it means that you think you know when no one in reality actually knows >_>. whether im smart or not is your perception. i can go on all day about why everyone is smart no matter how dumb they may seem and vise versa with idiot >_>
EnterdaTube 8 months ago
@EnterdaTube
1) youre on drugs
2) youre an idiot
3) youre a religious idiot on drugs.
fLRedSpade 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade so your seriously gona waste your time calling me an idiot with no intention at all in helping me or expressing your own truth in any way. im not on drugs and im not an idiot >_> how amuzing lol
EnterdaTube 8 months ago
@EnterdaTube
Are you religious?
fLRedSpade 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade HAHA LOL hell no >_> actually.... perhaps everyone is religious to there own developed personal belief system.
EnterdaTube 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade no. though i believe that everyone follows there views just like everyone else obviously. no one is different by far.
EnterdaTube 8 months ago
@fLRedSpade no im not.... i desire every form of freedom that does not hurt anyone unless they deserve it.
EnterdaTube 7 months ago
@EnterdaTube
are you still talking? fuck religion
fLRedSpade 7 months ago
@fLRedSpade you must accept everything in existence for you are apart of every consciousness and also a section of everything. indeed religion is now a hinderance but it was still a step towards truth. and i do believe that there is a perfect truth and im constantly getting closer to it. i will understand it before i die.
EnterdaTube 7 months ago
@EnterdaTube
ok
fLRedSpade 7 months ago
everytime i hear the rock logic i relise whoever is using it has no idea what he is talking about, that statment is good for first graders, not for intelligent people...
GreatThunder1 10 months ago
Care to explain why?
crissxxx 10 months ago
@crissxxx 1 - When you use that logic in a serious descussion its shows you don't understand the concept of lifting\gravity\mass of things, its like thinking earth is the only thing in the univers and lifting somthing can be hard, the second and more important reason is because it's just like the lieing paradox : "i always lie" its sort of a trick. third you can always be answered god is omnipetent with the exception of creating a "can't do" pardox which he cannot do :) .
GreatThunder1 10 months ago
Omnipotent is meant to be able to do anything but on the same time its contradicting itself so thats why it doesnt work.
crissxxx 10 months ago