Haha man I have been searching for a quality list on youtube all day and this is the first one i actually like, like i'd give it a 86% out of 100. Not to be to much of a critic, but your missing guys like Bart Starr (7 NFl Championships), Otto Graham (10 straight championship games), and Kurt Warner (3 super bowl visits, one win, "Greatest Show on Turf"), but overall, good list
You can't use superbowls to say who's the best, Super Bowls are won by a team, plenty of QBs fail to win one(like Dan Marino) because the overall team wasn't strong enough.
1.Brett Farve 2.Fran Tarkenton 2. Dan Marino 4. Otto Graham 5. Johnny U 6. Payton Manning 7.Joe Montana 8.Warren Moon 9. John Elway 10. *Ken Stabler(* is for 'Stick-em')
I've rejected Bradshaw, Brady, Mcnabb, Young and Aikmen because their success had more to do with the rest of their teams.
You all make valid points, but are any of you old enough to have seen John Unitas play? Since most of you mention only those quaterbacks who made their marks pre 1970, I'm guessing none of you saw Unitas play. There were better arms (though not many) but no one lead a team like Unitas. And he called all of his own plays. Watch the next to the last play of the 1958 championship game vs the Giants. Pure guts. Pure leadership. Pure Unitas.
Speaking statistically, Favre is the best. He holds almost every record in the NFL, broke almost every record, has over 70,000 passing yards, and you don't get a QB like Favre in the draft every year.
@MYNYGIANTS101 u r freaken crazy peyton manning only won one super bow and lost one so his records in super bowls is 1-1 and he has interceptions joe montanas record in super bowls is 4-0 with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions
yeah, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Brady better than Elway and Manning? think again buddy, the official Nfl greatest of all time puts Peyton at #8 and Brady at #21. your list is crap.
My thought exactly. Kelly was a fantastic quarterback who achieved greatness while playing in a completely different offense, the hurry-up style, and he played against and beat Marino, Elway, and Favre most of the time. He is definitely one of the best quarterbacks ever and should be on this list.
1st manning overrated?????? really i mean really this man is probably the only qb that is an OC 2nd i am a raider fan and i hate the 9ers so fukk montana(even though he should be 1st or 2nd)3rd johnny u was the best qb at his time and he threw the football better than any of qb in nfl history oh and not to mention that he was very clutch but when i made the list i was bias. so i will put the list like this 1-montana 2-johnny u 3 elway 4-manning 5-marino
Brett Favre is the greatest Quarterback of all time
Face it people, Stats don't lie. And Brett is and was a HELL of a player, People are gonna give me shit for this, But i don't care. All the Records there is. Most Career Picks is because he played for 20 damn years.
Dan Marino is #2.
He may have never won a Superbowl but he SHATTERED every passing record there was, no one looks at QB's with true talent and ability, they look at the team there on and how many rings they have, Ridiculous
out of all these qb's i would take tom brady first. people talk shit, but idk why. his 3 superbowl wins he did with not 1 pro bowl player, and look at his damn weapons around him- a bunch of cut players from other teams. hes the fucking man! hes had 1 good wr in all his years.. randy moss. what happend? he had playstation stats
@soonermagic24 playstation stats and lost lol. Brady did it without a really friendly qb system. Check down and short passes because thats who they were. Brady is top ten for sure...but he aint better then joe moe..thats for sure. IDC bout the all star team. Patriots had a nice secondary too that made several qb look bad. Manning, Warner, Mcnabb ect. Qb get to much credit and brady isnt mr perfect either. Niether was Joe. But in hind side, Joe gets the upperhand cause he did well with the chiefs
Johnny unitas doesnt deserve number 2....peyton manning way overratted take him out...tom brady stays maybe even goes up to number 2 because of 3 rings in 4 years and his numbers
this list is more fucked up than a soup sandwich!!!! the list should be as follows.. 1. Dan Marino 2. Johnny Unitas 3. Joe Montana 4. Brett Farve 5. Boomer Esiason 6. Archie Manning 7. Warren Moon 8. John Elway 9. Doug Flutie 10. Peyton Manning
this list is more fucked up than a soup sandwich!!!! the list should be as follows.. 1. Dan Marino 2. Johnny Unitas 3. Joe Montana 4. Brett Farve 5. Boomer Esiason 6. Archie Manning 7. Warren Moon 8. John Elway 9. Doug Flutie 10. Peyton Manning
@dixieboy85 1? Dan marino honestly Marino doesn't even have a sb ring and favre and Manning and elway and brady and unitus and especially Joe are better than him
I think people are smoking crack to put elway after brady is seriously wrong I mean 4th and ten pocket breaks down who do you want brady? really ? Thats a sack elways scrambles away gives the receivers time or he goes gets the first keep the drive going !
this is the hardest position to rate top 8 gotta include Montana, Bradshaw, Peyton, Farve, Brady, Young, Elway, and Unitas no specifc order isnt it enough we rate them top ten? BTW give it a couple years ben will be there too its only his 5th or 6th year
this is the hardest position to rate top 8 gotta include Montana, Bradshaw, Peyton, Farve, Brady, Young, Elway, and Unitas no specifc order isnt it enough we rate them top ten?
For those of you chirping Manning, your definitely not NFL fans. If you have ever watched a colt's game and paid attention to Manning you would see right away why he is the best among active quarterbacks in the league. His numbers this year may not show it due to injury prone colt receivers, but look up his numbers from 2002 to lat season and tell me that he doesn't deserve to be on this list.
For those of you chirping Manning, your definitely not NFL fans. If you have ever watched a colt's game and paid attention to Manning you would see right away why he is the best among active quarterbacks in the league. His numbers this year may not show it due to injury prone colt receivers, but look up his numbers from 2002 to lat season and tell me that he doesn't deserve to be on this list.
@checkspender do u see what brady does with these receivers he has
alll great qbs have great recievers. brady had one great reciever and he broke the touchdown record that year
montana isnt the best ever becasuse he had the greatest reciever ever. and warren moon should be on the list because he is on the top ten list in the major passing statistics without having great recievers and without being allowed to play in the nfl as qb his fist few years. he had to go to the cfl
@hugejdog1@hugejdog1 Name one hall of famer receiver brady had everyone always says shit about manning doest have the team brady has shit look at the receivers brady has bellicheck arguably the best qb coach duo ever
brady and favre could be ranked higher and honestly paton manning what hes had maybe 3 good years and now look this year hes as bad as fuckin donavan mcnabb
Tom Brady - Number One, All Time. No one can compare. No one has ever been more clutch, won more with less. Doesn't matter who the supporting cast is - he's there - always. Marino - more supporting talent, no rings. Peyton, more supporting talent, one ring, several chokes. Montana, maybe Brady's equal, but Brady never had a Jerry Rice to throw to.
@noonze1 joe montana was good before jerry rice... he had 2 rings before jerry rice... and montana's clutch moments were always better... he had to drive the length of the field for TDs all brady had to do was set up vinatieri.
@noonze1 Sorry dude, he's not at least at this point. Another MVP and another ring or two and maybe. I'm a patriots fan, have been my whole life, but Brady simply still can't match Joe Montana or Johnny Unitas. I agree with him being number 3. It is annoying when people claim that Peyton Manning is better though, he's not even close.
@mx2027 i'm not a pats fan, i'm a steelers fan, but i agree with u 4 da fact that brady have more rings and played with a weaker cast of players compared to manning
Tom Brady - Number One All Time. No one can compare. No one has ever been more clutch, won more with less. Doesn't matter who the supporting cast is - he's there - always. THE greatest - ever.
UNITAS IS NUMBER ONE...Still has 4 records not broken.... Every record of his that were broken, took twice or 3 times as long to break them as it did for him to set them..... and they played less games back then with LESS RULES!...... no no no my friend, Johnny U is NUMBER 1 in the NFL's eyes too!
i dont understand how dan marino is so low. He had better stats than anyone (cept favre) and dont say anything about the SB. cause you put Bradshaw lower than Marino and he has 4 SB rings. so if SB rings mattered than bradshaw should have been higher, if they didnt matter than Marino should have been higher.... dang, you messed this list up. u should have just named it "my top 10 favorite QB of alltime"
@Fish61324 People rank based on Super Bowl wins. Not the aspects that matter when ranking quarterbacks. Marino couldn't carry the entire weight of his mediocre team to a Super Bowl win. So he just isn't as good as the guys who won 3 or 4 with the greatest teams ever assembled.
Elway and Marino, in my opinion, are the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Peyton follows at 3.
Several beefs. For starters, Montana is badly overrated, Bradshaw is not close to top ten. Marino should be higher so should Elway. The idea that Unitas is the only guy from the past is silly, and Warren Moon belongs in the top ten.
@TheDustinGreen shut the fuck up man brady is one of the greatest in NFL History, he have won 3 super bowls and have been in 4...does that suck tu you? what the fuck man!
Montana sucks!!!! Young was twice the quarterback,Marino was the best eyes & arm of all-time and John Elway the Rocket Arm!!!! Yes, Tom Brady has the rings and is a leader. But Montana had a lot of support all around and he took all the credit!!!!
No fucking Aikman? This list is better then the top 15 quarterback list. But come on...Aikman was a fucking beast
3 Superbowl rings, like 6 or 7 pro bowls. A superbowl MVP in one of those wins. Won more games then any other fucking QB in the 1990's. Beat your fucking miserable Steve Young so many times its not even funny. Fucking stupid bro
@KingDJMax43 how can a qb who has all day to throw be on that list ? and when doesn't have all day to throw what happens? yeah you remember that ravens thrashing last year right ? 5 sacks 2 picks yeah
Brady is about 50 places too high. He doesn't belong anywhere near the top ten. The fact that you put him above guys like Elway, Manning and Marino is just sickening.
Joe Montana is the second most overrated quarterback in NFL History. Next to Tom Brady of course.
@Ironman374 wow.. i cant take your opinion after seeing your stupidity.. montana and brady overrated? ROFL.. learn the game of football you mental midget
@jazzyjeff1282 "Come at me" Team caliber is one of the most important aspects of ranking quarterbacks. So Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are better quarterbacks than Marino? Jeff Hostetler too, right? They have rings, but Dan doesn't. I'll bet you haven't even heard of those quarterbacks. That 49er team was the best in NFL history because of the salary cap. At best, you have general knowledge about football, so I'm wasting my time trying to explain something to someone who's completely clueless.
@Ironman374 Soo if superbowls and stats don't matter than what does u dumbass? Who you wanna suck off the most? Heard of all those Q, nobody is denying Dan Marino is one of the Greats but ever sports analysts ever agrees he can't be deemed the best because he never one the big one. What the fuck is your criteria for who is great? And for football knowledge i bet you couldnt honestly tell me the patriots receiving core when they won there superbowls without looking it up
@jazzyjeff1282 I see. You're a Patriots fan. So you've got quite a bit of bias for Tom Brady. Are you one of the guys that walks around with the "I've got a man crush on Tom Brady" shirt?
What makes a great quarterback? Listen to this guy.
@jazzyjeff1282 I never said Montana wasn't in the top 10. Being #1 is overrated. He is not the #1 quarterback. And why wouldn't you listen to that big guy?
@Ironman374 you dont understand or watch football... Peyton Manning ahead of montana and Brady you are one of the dumbest people on this earth... Peyton Manning is the most overrated quarterback just ask tracy porter
@missionbears Peyton is ahead of Brady on the NFLs top 100. Soooo..... Not just MY opinion. Anyone who puts Brady over Manning is a complete retard. How's Jay Cutler treating you?
@Ironman374 what does jay cutler have to do with anything... There is not reasoning possible that can put manning ahead of brady... MVPs are not more important than Superbowl Wins. Peyton Manning is not even clutch he threw the most crucial pick of his career in the year's biggest game. Great QBs do not do that thus peyton manning is a overrated quarterback
@missionbears Ummm. Actually MVPs are just as important, if not more. MVPs are viewed upon an individual's solo performance. A Super Bowl is a team victory. If rings mattered, Trent Dilfer would be ahead of Dan Marino.
@Ironman374 nothing a quarterback does is solo. Those are MVPs for other sports. I hate people who say that. Peyton Manning is not throwing to himself you know... Peyton Manning just accumulates big statistics. He doesn't lead his team like a quarterback should when it matters. He dosen't make big drives in the playoffs when it matters. He throws pick 6's and chokes alot though.
@Ironman374 Peyton Manning had a stacked offense its not fair... Brady has been throwing to Deion Branch and Troy Brown most of his career. Brady wins with a mediocre offense... 3times too throwing to inconsistent hands, and unsure route runners. Manning throws to Marvin Harrison one of the greatest hands in history, and Reggie Wayne also a great, Dallas Clark is among the top TEs and Edgerrin james along with Joseph addai are pro bowlers. Manning has a solid O-line as well. He has been spoiled
@missionbears You're not giving enough credit to the Patriots team and giving a bit too much credit to the Colts team. Harrison and Wayne WOULD NOT be liking their numbers if they didn't have #18 to throw them the ball. Not to mention Brady was apart of a cheat scheme for who knows how long until they were caught. I can't stand shit like that. He's unsportsmanlike and highly overrated. Most overrated ever.
@Ironman374 OMG the cheat shit get off of that... they only have proof of the Rams and the Lions... There is zero, zilch proof they filmed the eagles or the panthers... this is just speculations made by Brady haters... Patriots did not cheat the kicker into kicking it out of bounds in their last superbowl and put the Pats at the 40. You give manning too much credit... Brady had to drive down the field in all of those superbowls with 2 minutes left. Brady is clutch manning is not. Manning overrat
@missionbears No, they have tons more proof. They have video evidence against them doing that against the Jets. The year they went "16-0". I'm not going to let that slide, because that is bull shit and unprofessional. We don't need that in the NFL.
Manning, not clutch? He is one of the rare, RARE quarterbacks who can pick up their offense, change their formation and make the defense look clueless. He is one of the most clutch quarterbacks of all time. But you say he isn't clutch at all?
@missionbears Wow, I guess quarterbacks can't make mistakes? Champ Bailey picked Brady off and ran 101 yards. So, by that ridiculous, biased, one dimensional logic, NO quarterback is clutch. I've seen Brady, countless times, buckle under defensive pressure, pull a Jay Cutler and throw a pick. Does that mean he isn't clutch? No, Brady has been Clutch AT TIMES, but Manning mops the floor with him.
@Ironman374 no but it was the closing drive in a superbowl... Tom Brady does not throw a pick at the closing drive of any of his superbowls, Joe Montana surely didnt either
@missionbears I recall the hero of the Pats Super Bowls being the kicker most of the time. Joe Montana couldn't if he wanted to. The salary cap was so ridiculous, he had the greatest team ever. NO QUESTION. Even you could win a Super Bowl at quarterback for that team.
@Ironman374 Peyton Mannings offense as well as his defense are both solid. The colts defense does not get enough credit for their playing. Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis are among the best Defensive ends and pass rushers of this decade. Bob Sanders is always in the top safety discussion as well as antoine bethea. Brackett is a decent MLB and kelvin Hayden is a good corner. Combine that with a power offense that manning has he has no reason for losing.,. his team is just as good
@missionbears Drew Brees gave them a reason for losing. He is a better quarterback than Brady. Taking no names and making them studs. He passed for 5 touchdowns with 5 different receivers. The most versatile quarterback in the league, easily.
@Ironman374 Brady played with no names his entire career we have already been through this part of the discussion. Seriously who the hell is troy brown, and deion branch... Drew Brees is irrelevant to this discussion. Peyton Manning's colts were like 7pt favorites to win the last superbowl...
@missionbears But Brady never faced a quarterback half as good as Drew Brees in the Super Bowl. And Troy Brown/Deion Branch are not given the credit they deserve.
@Ironman374 please answer me this then. When Deion Branch left the patriots did his name even pop up as a playmaker in those 4 years apart from brady? Brady played against 3 pro bowl Quarterbacks along with their star players. He beat Kurt Warner who is going to be in the hall of fame along with Faulk, Holt, and Bruce, He beat Donavan Mcnabb the best QB philly ever had and T.O , and he beat Matt Hassellback a pro bowler during that time when Shaun Alexander was the MVP runningback.
@missionbears His name did not pop up, because the ball wasn't thrown to him as much. They relied more on the Shaun Alexander running game than they did their passing game. in my opinion, Brees is better than any quarterback Brady faced in the Super Bowl. Their defense was solid, as well. That Saints team was never given the credit they deserved until they won that Super Bowl. That's why I picked them to upset the Colts.
@Ironman374 Also if you look up the top 10 players of the decade you will find that Kurt Warner and Donavan McNabb are voted on that list by NFL analysts and are ranked like numbers 10 and 9 best players of the decade. Brady has played against good quarterbacks.
@missionbears I'm not saying Brady hasn't played against good quarterbacks. He played against Drew Brees last season and was blown out. He couldn't do crap against them, so what makes you think he would've done better if he was good enough to make it to the Super Bowl last season. Did you even see what Brady did against the Ravens in the playoffs last season?
@Ironman374 ok but i have also seen what Manning has done the majority of his career. Manning couldn't even beat a chargers team that lost philip rivers and L.T during the divisional playoff match 3 years ago, that is so disappointing... that he could not even beat Volek and Darren Sproles, Manning is a joke. Just because Brady lost to Brees once does not mean they would do it all the time. That my friend is a fallacy to assume such a thing.
@missionbears Do you see what Manning is doing this year? You accuse him of having a great team, but all season his receiving core has been plagued with injuries. He's taking backup after backup and putting up incredible numbers and still winning all these games. Plus, 15 TDs to 2 INTs is VERY impressive considering the guys he is doing it with. Not half as good as Deion Branch. How is THAT not clutch?
@missionbears Okay. Manning does that constantly. And what's more impressive now, is his lack of talent to work with. He's just been named #8 all time. Not just QB, but ALL TIME, by NFL Network.
@Ironman374 i noticed and its a travesty... Manning does not deserve to be ranked that high, those list are always controversial, some analysts does not even think he deserves to be in the top 100. Rod Woodson hall of fame safety believes he shouldnt be anywhere near the top 100
@Ironman374 Brady still had to drive them down 40 yards for the score each time... why drive down for a touchdown when you just need a fg that is just illogical. Main point is tom brady has never thrown a pick and definetly not a pick 6 in the final drive of a SUPERBOWL.
@Ironman374 He threw away the game, Austin Collie was open, he could have taken the sack, he could have thrown it away... why was he rushing the pass anyway? He had 4minutes to go and it was like 2nd down... manning buckle under pressure in the biggest game of the year in the most crucial moment where the team needed him to get them through. Tom Brady driven his team 3 times your telling me manning can't even do it once... cmon now... Manning for all his MVPs and fame he should have driven them
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chrisreynaud1 2 weeks ago
where the hell is drew breed
chrisreynaud1 2 weeks ago
Haha man I have been searching for a quality list on youtube all day and this is the first one i actually like, like i'd give it a 86% out of 100. Not to be to much of a critic, but your missing guys like Bart Starr (7 NFl Championships), Otto Graham (10 straight championship games), and Kurt Warner (3 super bowl visits, one win, "Greatest Show on Turf"), but overall, good list
TSASports12 3 weeks ago
Brady shouldnt be there
25Thebeastmode 2 months ago
You can't use superbowls to say who's the best, Super Bowls are won by a team, plenty of QBs fail to win one(like Dan Marino) because the overall team wasn't strong enough.
1.Brett Farve 2.Fran Tarkenton 2. Dan Marino 4. Otto Graham 5. Johnny U 6. Payton Manning 7.Joe Montana 8.Warren Moon 9. John Elway 10. *Ken Stabler(* is for 'Stick-em')
I've rejected Bradshaw, Brady, Mcnabb, Young and Aikmen because their success had more to do with the rest of their teams.
lazyidiotofthemonth 2 months ago
@lazyidiotofthemonth you dnt remeber the perfect season?
mosesj92 2 months ago
Close..but no. Here are the top 15 of all time in order....TAKE NOTE....
1. Montana. 2. Manning. 3. Unitas. 4. Favre. 5. Elway 6. Brady 7. Marino 8. Young 9. Tarkenton 10. Bradshaw 11. Brees 12. Staubach 13. Namath 14. Aikman 15. Warner. Honorable mention: Moon, Fouts.
XYGAGuy 4 months ago
You all make valid points, but are any of you old enough to have seen John Unitas play? Since most of you mention only those quaterbacks who made their marks pre 1970, I'm guessing none of you saw Unitas play. There were better arms (though not many) but no one lead a team like Unitas. And he called all of his own plays. Watch the next to the last play of the 1958 championship game vs the Giants. Pure guts. Pure leadership. Pure Unitas.
cawdorglamis 5 months ago
@ ayolaw92 This list is a really good one! Besides, it's his opinion.
brewersfan892 7 months ago
Speaking statistically, Favre is the best. He holds almost every record in the NFL, broke almost every record, has over 70,000 passing yards, and you don't get a QB like Favre in the draft every year.
brewersfan892 7 months ago
@brewersfan892 you have aaron rodgers, he's just as good
chrisreynaud1 2 weeks ago
I would've put Marino closer to the top and Brady closer to the delete button.
22ratshot 8 months ago 2
ARE YOU KIDDING??? Peyton in front of Brady? Such crap. And Joe Montana shouldnt even be on the list and you put him at number one? STUPID.
crazystratton33 8 months ago
bardy is not better then peyton im a die herd giants fan and i will say PEYTON MANNING IS THE BEST QUATERBACK OF ALL TIME
MYNYGIANTS101 9 months ago
@MYNYGIANTS101 u r freaken crazy peyton manning only won one super bow and lost one so his records in super bowls is 1-1 and he has interceptions joe montanas record in super bowls is 4-0 with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions
MyLalagirl 8 months ago
bradshaw is overrated
heavymetal92892 10 months ago
You got your list right Brady better than manning
LETSGETDONUTS 1 year ago
@ rarelyevenn that is so true. Go Brett!
toddgshroom 1 year ago
yeah, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Brady better than Elway and Manning? think again buddy, the official Nfl greatest of all time puts Peyton at #8 and Brady at #21. your list is crap.
ayolaw92 1 year ago
Tom brady is a homo
cansoffruit 1 year ago
1. Montana
2. Bradshaw
3. Brady
4. Unitas
5. Aikman
6. Marino
7. Manning
8. Favre
9. Starr
10. Elway
Patriots09ist 1 year ago
@Patriots09ist Bradshaw and Aikman are way too high on that list. Marino is too low..
Magic32Rice80 1 year ago
yeah this list is garbage
skynard117 1 year ago
oh shure leave jim kelly off
hadespheonix 1 year ago
@hadespheonix
My thought exactly. Kelly was a fantastic quarterback who achieved greatness while playing in a completely different offense, the hurry-up style, and he played against and beat Marino, Elway, and Favre most of the time. He is definitely one of the best quarterbacks ever and should be on this list.
813impulse90 1 year ago
A good QB is a QB who retires with an amazing QB ratting :)
zeeshawn15 1 year ago
no brady is way better then manning manning sucks
Muniz187 1 year ago
@Muniz187 Ya, sure, that's why he had 121.1 QB ratting in 04 and 49 TD in one season... You are funny
zeeshawn15 1 year ago
@zeeshawn15 Yup and why BRADY had 50 TD in one season AND two more rings hmmm, nope, no difference here.
Patriots09ist 1 year ago
1: Montana 2: Unitas 3: Brady 4: Marino 5: Young 6:Otto Gramm 7: Staubach 8: Favre 9: Starr 10: Aikmen
MrTeracotapie 1 year ago
Really man? Brady is not higher than manning manning should be # 3 or 4
BatIStarocks555 1 year ago
@BatIStarocks555 Yes he is. Rings matter. 9-10 postseason for manning, vs 14-5 for Brady. Check again.
Patriots09ist 1 year ago
1st manning overrated?????? really i mean really this man is probably the only qb that is an OC 2nd i am a raider fan and i hate the 9ers so fukk montana(even though he should be 1st or 2nd)3rd johnny u was the best qb at his time and he threw the football better than any of qb in nfl history oh and not to mention that he was very clutch but when i made the list i was bias. so i will put the list like this 1-montana 2-johnny u 3 elway 4-manning 5-marino
NorCalRaider510 1 year ago
@NorCalRaider510 hey buddy fuck u and ur shitty fag garbage doo doo chokeland joe montana will kick ur bitch ass
MANIACKILLAH13 1 year ago
where the hell is bart starr in this. he won the first two superbowls
davezize 1 year ago
Brady has done more with less than any QB ever. Even Elway. If Brady wins #4, he's #1. If not, he's still #2.
777zippy777 1 year ago
y is Troy Aikman not in this
ForosTexas1 1 year ago
1- Johnny Untias 2-John Elway 3-Dan Marino 4-Peyton Manning 5-Brett Favre
NorCalRaider510 1 year ago
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SynCityCowboys 1 year ago 2
@SynCityCowboys You seriously need to learn how to respect others' opinions...
unspoken00 1 year ago
Brett Favre is the greatest Quarterback of all time
Face it people, Stats don't lie. And Brett is and was a HELL of a player, People are gonna give me shit for this, But i don't care. All the Records there is. Most Career Picks is because he played for 20 damn years.
Dan Marino is #2.
He may have never won a Superbowl but he SHATTERED every passing record there was, no one looks at QB's with true talent and ability, they look at the team there on and how many rings they have, Ridiculous
RarelyEvenn 1 year ago
#1 Brett Favre
Face it people, Stats don't lie. And Brett is and was a HELL of a player, People are gonna give me shit for this, But i don't care.
RarelyEvenn 1 year ago
#1 Tom Brady
CrazedMe250 1 year ago
out of all these qb's i would take tom brady first. people talk shit, but idk why. his 3 superbowl wins he did with not 1 pro bowl player, and look at his damn weapons around him- a bunch of cut players from other teams. hes the fucking man! hes had 1 good wr in all his years.. randy moss. what happend? he had playstation stats
soonermagic24 1 year ago
@soonermagic24 playstation stats and lost lol. Brady did it without a really friendly qb system. Check down and short passes because thats who they were. Brady is top ten for sure...but he aint better then joe moe..thats for sure. IDC bout the all star team. Patriots had a nice secondary too that made several qb look bad. Manning, Warner, Mcnabb ect. Qb get to much credit and brady isnt mr perfect either. Niether was Joe. But in hind side, Joe gets the upperhand cause he did well with the chiefs
WissMongler 1 year ago
Johnny unitas doesnt deserve number 2....peyton manning way overratted take him out...tom brady stays maybe even goes up to number 2 because of 3 rings in 4 years and his numbers
brando13ww 1 year ago
dixieboy85 1 year ago
dixieboy85 1 year ago
@dixieboy85 1? Dan marino honestly Marino doesn't even have a sb ring and favre and Manning and elway and brady and unitus and especially Joe are better than him
Donkeykong21425 1 year ago
No Sammy Baugh??...No Otto Graham???...Graham took the Browns to 10 championship games in 10 straight years!!!
BeatleJim55 1 year ago
how can peyton manning and tom brady be top 5. they are not better than favre and marino
edpool209 1 year ago
I think people are smoking crack to put elway after brady is seriously wrong I mean 4th and ten pocket breaks down who do you want brady? really ? Thats a sack elways scrambles away gives the receivers time or he goes gets the first keep the drive going !
kasuwell 1 year ago
this is the hardest position to rate top 8 gotta include Montana, Bradshaw, Peyton, Farve, Brady, Young, Elway, and Unitas no specifc order isnt it enough we rate them top ten? BTW give it a couple years ben will be there too its only his 5th or 6th year
checkspender 1 year ago
this is the hardest position to rate top 8 gotta include Montana, Bradshaw, Peyton, Farve, Brady, Young, Elway, and Unitas no specifc order isnt it enough we rate them top ten?
checkspender 1 year ago
once I saw Tom Brady at #3 I left the video
chubbest28 1 year ago
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For those of you chirping Manning, your definitely not NFL fans. If you have ever watched a colt's game and paid attention to Manning you would see right away why he is the best among active quarterbacks in the league. His numbers this year may not show it due to injury prone colt receivers, but look up his numbers from 2002 to lat season and tell me that he doesn't deserve to be on this list.
RobPerissinotti 1 year ago
For those of you chirping Manning, your definitely not NFL fans. If you have ever watched a colt's game and paid attention to Manning you would see right away why he is the best among active quarterbacks in the league. His numbers this year may not show it due to injury prone colt receivers, but look up his numbers from 2002 to lat season and tell me that he doesn't deserve to be on this list.
RobPerissinotti 1 year ago
@RobPerissinotti that wouldnt be a problem for brady. he doesnt need good recievers. he works with what hes got which makes him a true elite qb
rakim275 1 year ago
montana is not the best ever
warren moon should be on the list
tom brady should be number one
rakim275 1 year ago
@rakim275 Lol brady is debatable but Warren Moon? shit man maybe on top black quarterbacks
checkspender 1 year ago
@checkspender do u see what brady does with these receivers he has
alll great qbs have great recievers. brady had one great reciever and he broke the touchdown record that year
montana isnt the best ever becasuse he had the greatest reciever ever. and warren moon should be on the list because he is on the top ten list in the major passing statistics without having great recievers and without being allowed to play in the nfl as qb his fist few years. he had to go to the cfl
rakim275 1 year ago
how the fuck is tom brady at number three
hugejdog1 1 year ago
@hugejdog1 Name one hall of famer receiver brady had everyone always says shit about manning doest have the team brady has shit look at the receivers
checkspender 1 year ago
@hugejdog1 @hugejdog1 Name one hall of famer receiver brady had everyone always says shit about manning doest have the team brady has shit look at the receivers brady has bellicheck arguably the best qb coach duo ever
checkspender 1 year ago
brady and favre could be ranked higher and honestly paton manning what hes had maybe 3 good years and now look this year hes as bad as fuckin donavan mcnabb
MsMofo80 1 year ago
Tom Brady - Number One, All Time. No one can compare. No one has ever been more clutch, won more with less. Doesn't matter who the supporting cast is - he's there - always. Marino - more supporting talent, no rings. Peyton, more supporting talent, one ring, several chokes. Montana, maybe Brady's equal, but Brady never had a Jerry Rice to throw to.
Brady - THE greatest - ever.
noonze1 1 year ago
@noonze1 joe montana was good before jerry rice... he had 2 rings before jerry rice... and montana's clutch moments were always better... he had to drive the length of the field for TDs all brady had to do was set up vinatieri.
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears u mean setting up vinateri with 1min left and on his own 20 yard line -.-
mykittydoespwn 1 year ago
@noonze1 Sorry dude, he's not at least at this point. Another MVP and another ring or two and maybe. I'm a patriots fan, have been my whole life, but Brady simply still can't match Joe Montana or Johnny Unitas. I agree with him being number 3. It is annoying when people claim that Peyton Manning is better though, he's not even close.
mx2027 1 year ago
@mx2027 i'm not a pats fan, i'm a steelers fan, but i agree with u 4 da fact that brady have more rings and played with a weaker cast of players compared to manning
KingDJMax43 1 year ago
@mx2027 dood me and you can be friends :)
checkspender 1 year ago
Tom Brady - Number One All Time. No one can compare. No one has ever been more clutch, won more with less. Doesn't matter who the supporting cast is - he's there - always. THE greatest - ever.
noonze1 1 year ago
Warren Moon; You will never be forgotten. No matter how many people try to defame your name.
glawz 1 year ago
UNITAS IS NUMBER ONE...Still has 4 records not broken.... Every record of his that were broken, took twice or 3 times as long to break them as it did for him to set them..... and they played less games back then with LESS RULES!...... no no no my friend, Johnny U is NUMBER 1 in the NFL's eyes too!
GasserGlass 1 year ago
bradshaw favre and manning would be totally top 3.
montanna and young would fight for 4th.
bradshaw - made his own plays, 4 bowls in 6 seasons i think
favre - record breaking freak (no fan of him, but hes still good)
manning - precise and can throw the ball pretty much perfect. he only needs top receivers and rb's is all thats missing
marino elway aikman simms roethlisberger brady about the same
staubach nammath tarkenten unitas starr stabler about the same
chopperseansean1 1 year ago
Brady is not the 3rd best quarterback of all time. Marino and Bradshaw are def better manning is about equal.
Peopleareblind 1 year ago
horrible list..cheating overrated brady over Manning?..
slikplaya 1 year ago
@kilox10001 You don't need to argue this anymore the list is complete:P It was also nice to see Barry ranked higher than Emmitt
chosenxeno 1 year ago
i dont understand how dan marino is so low. He had better stats than anyone (cept favre) and dont say anything about the SB. cause you put Bradshaw lower than Marino and he has 4 SB rings. so if SB rings mattered than bradshaw should have been higher, if they didnt matter than Marino should have been higher.... dang, you messed this list up. u should have just named it "my top 10 favorite QB of alltime"
Fish61324 1 year ago
@Fish61324 People rank based on Super Bowl wins. Not the aspects that matter when ranking quarterbacks. Marino couldn't carry the entire weight of his mediocre team to a Super Bowl win. So he just isn't as good as the guys who won 3 or 4 with the greatest teams ever assembled.
Elway and Marino, in my opinion, are the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Peyton follows at 3.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Fish61324
you got it more correct than everybody else on what you said. the other guys are probably just fans of certain qb's.
chopperseansean1 1 year ago
You may correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Rod Woodson also said John Elway was way too low.
The lists are controversial, for sure. Nobody will agree 100%. I liked seeing LT above Montana. I believe the guy is #1.
Ironman374 1 year ago
In my opinion, John Elway is #1 followed directly behind John is Dan.
Ironman374 1 year ago
Several beefs. For starters, Montana is badly overrated, Bradshaw is not close to top ten. Marino should be higher so should Elway. The idea that Unitas is the only guy from the past is silly, and Warren Moon belongs in the top ten.
PrisonerNumber9653 1 year ago
You know the difference between a football player and a vagina? nothing, they're both pussies that wear pads so they don't bleed.
stigler30 1 year ago
tom brady sucks
TheDustinGreen 1 year ago
@TheDustinGreen shut the fuck up man brady is one of the greatest in NFL History, he have won 3 super bowls and have been in 4...does that suck tu you? what the fuck man!
guishe009 1 year ago
@guishe009 how old r u kid? 5 your a fucking virgin k? tom brtayd has what rings 0 he cheated to get them pussy ass muthaphuka
TheDustinGreen 1 year ago
@TheDustinGreen man he didnt cheated don't be an asshole, and brady is an amiazing QB so shut the fuck up he deserves to be on this list
guishe009 1 year ago
@guishe009 get a fucking video n show ur virgin face cracker! tom brady sucks on his moms cok
TheDustinGreen 1 year ago
@TheDustinGreen Hahah im gonna go ahead and disagree you stupid punk bitch.
jazzyjeff1282 1 year ago
@jazzyjeff1282 proper grammer please?
0 subs?
0 friends?
100 haters?
you watched gay porn 100 times?
shut the fuck up you hoe cuz ur a fuckin 5 yea old virgin
TheDustinGreen 1 year ago
peyton should be #4 and brady should be 3!
yourbchy510 1 year ago
okay Favre should be higher and marino #7??? if Unitas is on there than so should Slingin' Sammy Baugh
OilFaithful23 1 year ago
What about Troy Aikman, whether you like or dislike Big D, you can't say that he wasnt a great QB.
eastcoming 1 year ago
hes #3 u ra tard
crazeyhatmen 1 year ago
STeve Young should be higher in the list
wvodrazka 1 year ago
horrible list5! Brett Favre is better than all of those qbs what wer u thinking were u on dope
MichealMyersHaloween 2 years ago
nice vid, whats the name of the song?
alfix8700 2 years ago
Montana sucks!!!! Young was twice the quarterback,Marino was the best eyes & arm of all-time and John Elway the Rocket Arm!!!! Yes, Tom Brady has the rings and is a leader. But Montana had a lot of support all around and he took all the credit!!!!
redhead5150 2 years ago
Joe Montana was a awesome quarterback. I would give him the #1 spot he earned it
wvodrazka 1 year ago
You people are fucking retarted man
No fucking Aikman? This list is better then the top 15 quarterback list. But come on...Aikman was a fucking beast
3 Superbowl rings, like 6 or 7 pro bowls. A superbowl MVP in one of those wins. Won more games then any other fucking QB in the 1990's. Beat your fucking miserable Steve Young so many times its not even funny. Fucking stupid bro
submissivelover 2 years ago
how dumb can you be. Brady is in the top 5!!!! Montana won 4 rings you r-tard. Brady and Montana are like father and son
KingDJMax43 2 years ago
@KingDJMax43 how can a qb who has all day to throw be on that list ? and when doesn't have all day to throw what happens? yeah you remember that ravens thrashing last year right ? 5 sacks 2 picks yeah
kasuwell 1 year ago
Brady is about 50 places too high. He doesn't belong anywhere near the top ten. The fact that you put him above guys like Elway, Manning and Marino is just sickening.
Joe Montana is the second most overrated quarterback in NFL History. Next to Tom Brady of course.
Ironman374 2 years ago
@Ironman374 wow.. i cant take your opinion after seeing your stupidity.. montana and brady overrated? ROFL.. learn the game of football you mental midget
Ayersdawwgah 1 year ago
Montana- 4 rings, 1 mvp, 3 sb mvps, class of 2000. Not overrated
Brady- 3 rings, 1 mvp, 2 sb mvps, single season touchdown record, not overrated
i know football, u know crap!!!!!
KingDJMax43 1 year ago
@KingDJMax43 i said they werent overrated you moron
Ayersdawwgah 1 year ago
@Ayersdawwgah Give Montana and Brady the teams that Elway and Marino had. See how many rings they'll have, then.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Umm your a dumb ass
jazzyjeff1282 1 year ago
@jazzyjeff1282 If you're going to insult me, at least use proper grammar and punctuation.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Yo u punk bitch if u wanna talk shit come at me i'll talk stats non stop u dumb cunt
jazzyjeff1282 1 year ago
@jazzyjeff1282 Stats don't tell the whole story you mindless, uneducated, arrogant fuck wit.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Hahahhaha stats don't matter? Thats true. Do super bowls you moronic fuck
jazzyjeff1282 1 year ago
@jazzyjeff1282 "Come at me" Team caliber is one of the most important aspects of ranking quarterbacks. So Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are better quarterbacks than Marino? Jeff Hostetler too, right? They have rings, but Dan doesn't. I'll bet you haven't even heard of those quarterbacks. That 49er team was the best in NFL history because of the salary cap. At best, you have general knowledge about football, so I'm wasting my time trying to explain something to someone who's completely clueless.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Soo if superbowls and stats don't matter than what does u dumbass? Who you wanna suck off the most? Heard of all those Q, nobody is denying Dan Marino is one of the Greats but ever sports analysts ever agrees he can't be deemed the best because he never one the big one. What the fuck is your criteria for who is great? And for football knowledge i bet you couldnt honestly tell me the patriots receiving core when they won there superbowls without looking it up
jazzyjeff1282 1 year ago
@jazzyjeff1282 I see. You're a Patriots fan. So you've got quite a bit of bias for Tom Brady. Are you one of the guys that walks around with the "I've got a man crush on Tom Brady" shirt?
What makes a great quarterback? Listen to this guy.
jasonfreak.proboards. com/index.cgi?board=sports&action=display&thread=3750
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Im not gonna listen to that big guy. You called out Montanna too! Those are easy in the top ten!!
jazzyjeff1282 1 year ago
@jazzyjeff1282 I never said Montana wasn't in the top 10. Being #1 is overrated. He is not the #1 quarterback. And why wouldn't you listen to that big guy?
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 and who would you say is the number one quarterback?
jazzyjeff1282 1 year ago
@Ironman374 you dont understand or watch football... Peyton Manning ahead of montana and Brady you are one of the dumbest people on this earth... Peyton Manning is the most overrated quarterback just ask tracy porter
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears Peyton is ahead of Brady on the NFLs top 100. Soooo..... Not just MY opinion. Anyone who puts Brady over Manning is a complete retard. How's Jay Cutler treating you?
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 what does jay cutler have to do with anything... There is not reasoning possible that can put manning ahead of brady... MVPs are not more important than Superbowl Wins. Peyton Manning is not even clutch he threw the most crucial pick of his career in the year's biggest game. Great QBs do not do that thus peyton manning is a overrated quarterback
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears Ummm. Actually MVPs are just as important, if not more. MVPs are viewed upon an individual's solo performance. A Super Bowl is a team victory. If rings mattered, Trent Dilfer would be ahead of Dan Marino.
THIS is how quarterbacks should be ranked.
jasonfreak.proboards. com/index.cgi?board=sports&action=display&thread=3750&page=1
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 nothing a quarterback does is solo. Those are MVPs for other sports. I hate people who say that. Peyton Manning is not throwing to himself you know... Peyton Manning just accumulates big statistics. He doesn't lead his team like a quarterback should when it matters. He dosen't make big drives in the playoffs when it matters. He throws pick 6's and chokes alot though.
missionbears 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Peyton Manning had a stacked offense its not fair... Brady has been throwing to Deion Branch and Troy Brown most of his career. Brady wins with a mediocre offense... 3times too throwing to inconsistent hands, and unsure route runners. Manning throws to Marvin Harrison one of the greatest hands in history, and Reggie Wayne also a great, Dallas Clark is among the top TEs and Edgerrin james along with Joseph addai are pro bowlers. Manning has a solid O-line as well. He has been spoiled
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears You're not giving enough credit to the Patriots team and giving a bit too much credit to the Colts team. Harrison and Wayne WOULD NOT be liking their numbers if they didn't have #18 to throw them the ball. Not to mention Brady was apart of a cheat scheme for who knows how long until they were caught. I can't stand shit like that. He's unsportsmanlike and highly overrated. Most overrated ever.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 OMG the cheat shit get off of that... they only have proof of the Rams and the Lions... There is zero, zilch proof they filmed the eagles or the panthers... this is just speculations made by Brady haters... Patriots did not cheat the kicker into kicking it out of bounds in their last superbowl and put the Pats at the 40. You give manning too much credit... Brady had to drive down the field in all of those superbowls with 2 minutes left. Brady is clutch manning is not. Manning overrat
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears No, they have tons more proof. They have video evidence against them doing that against the Jets. The year they went "16-0". I'm not going to let that slide, because that is bull shit and unprofessional. We don't need that in the NFL.
Manning, not clutch? He is one of the rare, RARE quarterbacks who can pick up their offense, change their formation and make the defense look clueless. He is one of the most clutch quarterbacks of all time. But you say he isn't clutch at all?
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 DUDE TRACY PORTER PICKED HIM OFF and Manning single handedly threw them the game how can that be clutch? EXPLAIN NOW!
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears Wow, I guess quarterbacks can't make mistakes? Champ Bailey picked Brady off and ran 101 yards. So, by that ridiculous, biased, one dimensional logic, NO quarterback is clutch. I've seen Brady, countless times, buckle under defensive pressure, pull a Jay Cutler and throw a pick. Does that mean he isn't clutch? No, Brady has been Clutch AT TIMES, but Manning mops the floor with him.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 no but it was the closing drive in a superbowl... Tom Brady does not throw a pick at the closing drive of any of his superbowls, Joe Montana surely didnt either
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears I recall the hero of the Pats Super Bowls being the kicker most of the time. Joe Montana couldn't if he wanted to. The salary cap was so ridiculous, he had the greatest team ever. NO QUESTION. Even you could win a Super Bowl at quarterback for that team.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Peyton Mannings offense as well as his defense are both solid. The colts defense does not get enough credit for their playing. Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis are among the best Defensive ends and pass rushers of this decade. Bob Sanders is always in the top safety discussion as well as antoine bethea. Brackett is a decent MLB and kelvin Hayden is a good corner. Combine that with a power offense that manning has he has no reason for losing.,. his team is just as good
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears Drew Brees gave them a reason for losing. He is a better quarterback than Brady. Taking no names and making them studs. He passed for 5 touchdowns with 5 different receivers. The most versatile quarterback in the league, easily.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Brady played with no names his entire career we have already been through this part of the discussion. Seriously who the hell is troy brown, and deion branch... Drew Brees is irrelevant to this discussion. Peyton Manning's colts were like 7pt favorites to win the last superbowl...
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears But Brady never faced a quarterback half as good as Drew Brees in the Super Bowl. And Troy Brown/Deion Branch are not given the credit they deserve.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 please answer me this then. When Deion Branch left the patriots did his name even pop up as a playmaker in those 4 years apart from brady? Brady played against 3 pro bowl Quarterbacks along with their star players. He beat Kurt Warner who is going to be in the hall of fame along with Faulk, Holt, and Bruce, He beat Donavan Mcnabb the best QB philly ever had and T.O , and he beat Matt Hassellback a pro bowler during that time when Shaun Alexander was the MVP runningback.
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears His name did not pop up, because the ball wasn't thrown to him as much. They relied more on the Shaun Alexander running game than they did their passing game. in my opinion, Brees is better than any quarterback Brady faced in the Super Bowl. Their defense was solid, as well. That Saints team was never given the credit they deserved until they won that Super Bowl. That's why I picked them to upset the Colts.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Also if you look up the top 10 players of the decade you will find that Kurt Warner and Donavan McNabb are voted on that list by NFL analysts and are ranked like numbers 10 and 9 best players of the decade. Brady has played against good quarterbacks.
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears I'm not saying Brady hasn't played against good quarterbacks. He played against Drew Brees last season and was blown out. He couldn't do crap against them, so what makes you think he would've done better if he was good enough to make it to the Super Bowl last season. Did you even see what Brady did against the Ravens in the playoffs last season?
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 ok but i have also seen what Manning has done the majority of his career. Manning couldn't even beat a chargers team that lost philip rivers and L.T during the divisional playoff match 3 years ago, that is so disappointing... that he could not even beat Volek and Darren Sproles, Manning is a joke. Just because Brady lost to Brees once does not mean they would do it all the time. That my friend is a fallacy to assume such a thing.
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears Do you see what Manning is doing this year? You accuse him of having a great team, but all season his receiving core has been plagued with injuries. He's taking backup after backup and putting up incredible numbers and still winning all these games. Plus, 15 TDs to 2 INTs is VERY impressive considering the guys he is doing it with. Not half as good as Deion Branch. How is THAT not clutch?
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 clutch means playing when the pressure is on... not playing with no receivers...
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears Okay. Manning does that constantly. And what's more impressive now, is his lack of talent to work with. He's just been named #8 all time. Not just QB, but ALL TIME, by NFL Network.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 i noticed and its a travesty... Manning does not deserve to be ranked that high, those list are always controversial, some analysts does not even think he deserves to be in the top 100. Rod Woodson hall of fame safety believes he shouldnt be anywhere near the top 100
missionbears 1 year ago
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@missionbears You may correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Rod Woodson also said John Elway was way too low.
The lists are controversial, for sure. Nobody will agree 100%. I liked seeing LT above Montana. I believe the guy is #1.
Ironman374 1 year ago
@Ironman374 Brady still had to drive them down 40 yards for the score each time... why drive down for a touchdown when you just need a fg that is just illogical. Main point is tom brady has never thrown a pick and definetly not a pick 6 in the final drive of a SUPERBOWL.
missionbears 1 year ago
@Ironman374 He threw away the game, Austin Collie was open, he could have taken the sack, he could have thrown it away... why was he rushing the pass anyway? He had 4minutes to go and it was like 2nd down... manning buckle under pressure in the biggest game of the year in the most crucial moment where the team needed him to get them through. Tom Brady driven his team 3 times your telling me manning can't even do it once... cmon now... Manning for all his MVPs and fame he should have driven them
missionbears 1 year ago
@missionbears He beat your team, didn't he?
Ironman374 1 year ago
@missionbears I'm not liking having to try to talk through youtube, if you'd like, you can come on over to my website to chat there.
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Ironman374 1 year ago
nice first three but favre should be #1, but everyone has different opinions.
owenmotion 2 years ago
ikr he is the best qb of this decade and of the last decade! hes been unstoppable his whole career
MichealMyersHaloween 2 years ago