@youknowimright1 If Scotland was independent it could control its own economic policies in terms of how much it could spend and its tax. For example, currently we have huge unemployment. If Scotland was independent it could increase spending to boost the economy until it has recovered. Currently we are at the mercy of Westminster and the Tory cuts. Also, we would be in control of our own military and could determine if we went to war or not.
The question for the referendum proposed by SNP is "Should Scotland be an independant Country?" So this should mean independant from the EU and the UN and NATO because to propose independence means independence not just from the UK becuase the question is vague but all particpating institutions.
I would like idependence but the proplem is us Scots would need our own army,own money,own air force,own leader,own navy,own goverment and all that stuff.
@LegoScotsMan - we've got our own leader and government, we would keep the pound until a time it was felt appropriate to join the euro, and the British defence force we've got based in Scotland now would simply become the Scottish defence force. Problem solved
Scotland releases Al Megrahi who was one of many people who participated in Lybian State Sponsored Terrorism. Scotland is Berated for it. The UK sells weapons to Lybia and send's two UK Prime Ministers to hug and shake hands with that same State which caused the Lockerbie Bombing and the UK is NOT berated. Hypocrisy Much?
The only vision salmond has is for himself ,he is the A typical asshole who screws it up, takes bribes then denies everything, take us to ruin and whos going to pay for a Scottish army navy and the likes? we are while the fat one sits in his castle as king of scotland...WAKE UP!
This guy is a dickhead, lockerbie bomber release...dickhead...his new castle paid for by the people which as he describes is someplace to rest his head is way wrong and his fat head may want to stay where it is until we vote his ass out!
My god the English are going to get a rude awakenning. Quite soon now too. Westminster has fought a propeganda war in Scotland but the problem for them is people are just not listening to the too wee, too poor, too stupid comments anymore. What ye going to mortgage your massive debts against when we finally claim our oil amongst other resources ha ha? Don`t even mention Scottish banks. They`re only Scottish in name. Most of their business is based in London , Englands capitol not ours ha ha.
@amsterdamforeverful Even if there is a referendum, most Scots would not vote for independence. Also Alex Salmond needs to get backing of most members in the Scottish Parliament to get a referendum, but he won't get that, because Conservatives + Labour+ Lib Dems votes in the parliament would stop the majority votes the SNP would need to get the referendum. The only other scottish party in the parliament that would support a referendum is the scottish greens, but they only represent 2 seats !!!
@theworldvideos1 Your math needs some work mate. The majoritity (hope I spelt that right) is 65 seats, the SNP have 69, the Greens have 2 and Margo (all the parties that want independence) make 72 votes yes for a referemdum so it will pass. Also support for independence has grown to 38% with against at 39%, the rest are undicided just yet but back in 2007 about 78% of people wanted a referemdum but the SNP didn't it up cos the the other parties would of voted it down.
@theworldvideos1 Your knowledge of scottish politics is somewhat outdated. The SNP have a majority in the scottish parliament. They possess 69 out of 129 seats in holyrood, thus, possess the majority needed to pass the independence referendum bill, which will be passed in a year's time. Also, government polls show that the desire for independence is on the increase. At the end of 2010, 23% of scottish voters approved of independence. At the start of 2012, this figure is 38%.
@derfruhlinginparis Also, it has been shown by polls that younger voters tend to be the ones supporting independence. By 2014, when the SNP plan to hold the referendum, obviously younger people will be older and will be able to vote. More old people will have died out and the figure supporting independence will be higher. I never really liked old people anyway...
Do you have any idea how many Scots of English descent there are in Scotland? Or how many English people live here? My great, great, great grandfather was an Englishman from Yorkshire and my great great grandfather on my grandfather's side also had a name of English origin. My name is Irish, I'm half Welsh and friends and acquaintences of mine came from Eastern Europe. Unlike England, many Scots are actually proud of the fact that people want to come here and be Scots.
@MarvellousMuffin Of course I'm aware! That's my point. It makes me howl with laughter when the Scots call the English, Sassenachs & claim the Scots are Celts. It's total fantasy. Blood mixes and we're all mongrels (and I mean everyone in every nation). Go back far enough & you'll find you're related to a water flea just as I am. We all are! By the way, that was the classic accusation of a Scottish bigot. Making out the Scots welcome everyone & the English don't. Absolute & utter nonsense.
You want to call me a bigot, you do that sir. It looks like the pot's calling the kettle black here. I will admit that I am guilty of generalising by referring to "England", but it's so hard not to bring myself down to your level with such provocation.
If you want to judge Independence as being purely a matter of race, that's your choice sir. I won't stop you. It's incorrect, but you're entitled to be wrong.
@MarvellousMuffin Ah but the difference is, he's also your leader. He's the leader of the union as opposed to the Anglo-Saxon Salmond who wants an independent Scotland. But I hope Salmond gains his victory because I want nothing more than a break-up of the Union. I have a bottle of English ale on ice, ready to celebrate the day we gain independence from you. Good luck to the SNP!
@MarvellousMuffin So why do so many Scots boast about being Celts & accuse the English of being Sassenachs? Your argument isn't consistent with reality.
Because I'm not one of those Scots, whitby. Not every Scot is like that, contrary to what you believe. You can't judge an entire country like that. If some people want this to be about race rather than nationality, identity and fulfilling our true potential as a country, that's their choice. It doesn't have to be mine. Please stop mentioning sassenachs by the way, I think you were the first to bring that word up here. It means Saxon, thousands of Scots are of Saxon ancenstry.
Scottish people are so brain washed, england is keeping scotland afloat yet they want to get independant and keep afloat? there brain washed about the oil, england dosnt take the oil the private oil companies do and all the tax most goes to scotland if the scottish didnt want a union they would right now be flying an english flag in edinburgh, 30% of britains debt average would be around 300% cause they wont earn as much countries have went soft.
Alex Salmond's bid to open Scotland's borders to thousands of immigrants has provoked a stinging rebuke from David Cameron and his Ministers.
In an unprecedented attack, the First Minister has been told Scots should be given the chance of any job vacancies and that immigration is already 'out of control'.
The rebuke will come as a major blow to Mr Salmond and the SNP, who want Scotland to be 'open to all' and believe more immigrants would boost the country's economy.
the union jack shall no longer fly above the Bratach nàiseanta na h-Alba, it is time to establish a United Gaelic state independent of our vile British suppressors
@birdmanswag A united GAELIC state,!! the stewarts didnt want yous! The lowland Scots dontlike yous! thats historical fact. You,ve been sidelined in our country for 400 years! NO one,s oppressed yous!Most Scots dont know yous exist and wouldnt careif they did.But your hate is strong, and its being nurtured, by people who are craftier than you are. LOOK back to your own history. and you will know.. you will be left out ..agin..
THe people of thse islands should be COMING TOGETHER not separatedbecause of religious and other grudges and resentmentsthat makethe SNP these islands and the whole of Europe are under threat,in every way,yet these inward."shotbread tin" antiquity enthusiasts want to break up the u.k.!!
i don't believe people should vote for the SNP but i think the United Kingdom should vote for UKIP, i have English, Scottish and Irish ancestory and would hate to see Britain fall apart, I beleive were better of together.
what happens to the SNP when they hold a referendum and loose? will they disband because they will be pointless. Youve already got your independance, you are already a individual nation. Ive fought alongside scotsmen and we are united toghever, we are a united kingdom.
@djpecky I'm Scottish (and British) and I couldn't agree with you more! I personally will be using my Freedom and my Independance as a person to vote 'NO' when the time comes. I do like Alex Salmond (sometimes) as he is generally good for Scotland and a lot better than the other Scottish parties on offer, but all his speeches are worded so carefully and cleverly to make us all proud to be Scottish and to make us think how amazing we would be if we were independant. And I don't buy any of it.
@RobinScott93 nope, just the amount that we should receive within our own sovereign EEZ under international law, as all independent nation states enjoy.
@spanonski That's absolute nonsense. Scottish Gaelic use has been in decline since the 15th century. By the time America was a country, only 20% of Scots spoke Gaelic.
@RobinScott93 You are right that Scotland isn't oppressed, but it does hugely underachieve.
I don't believe Scots are as closed-minded as you portray them on the question of independence. I don't believe they are opposed to independence. I think a great majority could easily be persuaded to support sovereignty but are naturally cautious - rightly so. And for me, that is the clinching argument as to why the United Kingdom is no longer united or sustainable.
Scotland will revert back to the impoverished country it has always been without the massive benefits it gets from the Union. It is a real shame, United you stand and divided you fall. Would Scotland have been able to bail out their Bank the Royal Bank of Scotland and the Bank of Scotland by themselves?
@N3IL67 Same thing in America. Right now we have a govenor from texas that wants to secede from the U.S. which that will never happen. Even there is people that want the confederate states of america back I mean look what happened in the civil war in America there were over 1 million casualties counting both military and civilian casualties. Plus the south was impovrished and their currency all it was good for is toilet paper. So in the US united we stand divided we fall.
SNP have an excellent team to see us through and become independent - just like Norway which became very rich after taking control of its' oil reserves. The racists can go fuck themselves.
@glasgow1234 . Westminster put the stop on the vote for independence. They said England would have to be a part of the vote. That English people would be voting with us. They did a poll in England and found that most English would back us on it, so no vote for us.
This should be a Scottish vote only, with just the Scottish people voting for our right to have our own identity apart from England.
Of course they won't give us that vote for independence, they know we will grab it with both hands.
The people who are against allowing us the vote know fine well what the outcome will be. The problem with that is that once we get it Wales and N.Ireland will follow suit and ditch England. England has no resources of its own, apart from tourism and the Royal family.
I want that vote, if the majority in Scotland vote against, then I'll accept that. Until we get the vote, we will never know.
@fluttereyes " England has no resources of its own, apart from tourism and the Royal family"???? Actually mate, if you do your research, you will find that England has the largest onshore oil field in the EU. England also has the majority of natural gas resources in the UK. England also houses the world's largest and most important financial center which is the city of London. And the UK will stay in its current position with or without Scotland
@NumberDne I think you will find that once Scotland becomes independent the oil will be ours once again. If England subsidises Scotland then why on earth is Waste-monster fighting so hard to keep us??? That is the real question on the Scots lips.And if u do your research u will find that Scotland has been making a 1 Billion surplus every year compare that to the 700 million Cameron spends every year into the deficit. Who Subsidises who? Annabel Goldie even admitted Scotland was better off alone
@mrkjames9 I never said England subsidises Scotland. The numbers are too difficult t work out while our economies/countries R linked, no matter how much separatists claim theres surplus & vice versa the numbers are 2 hard 2 work out til Scotland takes its liability of bank bailouts/toxic debt such as the RBS, HBOS £260 billion + pounds. & also ofcourse when Scotland receives its 2 billion n sea oil revenues. Good luck plugging the £260 billion + hole with your 2 billion annual oil revenues.
@NumberDne Scotland can't borrow money so we can't be in debt! if our bank was Scottish it couldn't borrow we don't have that power so it's your debt not ours. Don.t worry, we don't want to be your enemy! When Scotland becomes independent we will try to help you as much as we can! x Oh and good luck with your NHS reform! When i was in a hospital in America, a saw a woman frantically going through her credit cards for her son to have an appendectomy while he was "made comfertable" Good health x
@mrkjames9 "Scotland can't borrow money so we can't be in debt"
LOL, you really are a numpty if you think Scotland cant borrow money. How the hell did you pay for your morgage? that is assuming you'r not one of the many jobseeker allowance housing benefit public sector scroungers.
@NumberDne RBS is an English bank it's only Scottish by name! If Scotland was an independent country and the Royal bank of Scotland was actually Scottish the we would have easily got ourselves out of the crisis that is happening just now. As for the numbers you say are too difficult? I would say look it up you are obviously a BBC listener and haven't bothered to look it up it's easy to find! The £260 billion you mention is a much less than the real figure and that will be paid by england not us
@mrkjames9 "RBS is an English bank it's only Scottish by name"
1. Then please tell me where RBS is headquartered
2. If, as you say, "Scottish banks are 'English' " then please tell me how the fuck are you going to pay for your public spending budget without the financial sector i.e RBS / HBOS etc. And then tell me how you gonna finance own defence, overseas embassies, new passport systems etc in these difficult financial times. Let me guess.....north sea oil revenue??
1. RBS is HQ'ed in Edinburgh, but pays all taxes to London. RBS was a successful UK bank until the crisis, then overnight it mysteriously became and exclusively 'Scottish' bank. Funny that.
2. Once we stop sending all our money to London, we can divert it away from things we do not want to pay for. Wars, Nukes, PFI, PPP, We can reinvest money to re-industrialise Scotland and you kind sir, will not need to pay for any of it. What can possibly be fairer than that to an Englishman?
@dauntless111 1. RBS has always been a Scottish bank and also a British bank before and after the crisis, which is why the British public bailed it out. Nothing funny about that. 2. If you stop sending "your money" to London, you will also have to take full liability for RBS, HBos, your own welfare, millitary , healthcare etc and on top of that, also pay for your so called "reindustrialising Scotland." Good luck paying for all that with your £2 billion oil revenue.
@NumberDne 20Bn USD from Oil this year alone, where did you get your sily 2Bn UKP figure from? re: HBOS, so even though they do far more business in England than in Scotland, Scotland would have had to bail them out? fuck that, Scotland would have let it fail, and your fellow countrymen would have lost 1000's jobs. By the way, do you know that France bailed out Belgian banks and vice versa? why? because it was in their own self interest, not out of generosity. Stop pretending to be generous.
@NumberDne If RBS was always a Scottish Bank and you think that Scotland should take 100% responsibility for it, fine. Then can you please arrange a refund of all the monies that RBS has paid in tax to the London treasury since 1727. It should come to several hundred billion pounds. With that money, we will 'refund' your bailout, buy back the bank and keep the rest. Deal?
@dauntless111 optimistic figures of North sea oil revenue = 6.5 billion. Take away 15% which hypothetically go to rest of uk & also fact that bulk of UKs gas fields r in English waters & EU's largest on shore oil fields are in England means Scotland would lose out more than u think. Scotlands social expenditure alone stands at £20 billion. Scotlands share of N sea revenue dont even come close to plugging the gap. and i remove these comments coz only meant for silly seperatists like yourself.
@NumberDne Wow, I am a silly seperatist? Google This. 'muzzerino independence and the reasons a british unionist changed his mind' You will see my blog where I describe where, until about a year ago, I was a fervent supporter of Scotland in a fair and respectful UK Union but this Union has grown so polluted, so bile and toxic thanks to people like yourself, I want out and so do many others. Only time will shed truth on who will win or lose. Personally, I hope England carries on well without us.
@NumberDne Good sir, your 2nd point is 'mostly' accurate. Yes, Scotland will pay for and take full liability or our own Welfare, Military, Healthcare. Yes, this is what we want. Once we take our 8.6% share of all UK military assets after the split, we will have already got a good head start. Hooray! Free England!!!
@dauntless111 Both my points are accurate good sir. And again i say to you. The combined debt of RBS and Hbos is even more than the one 5th loss of wealth that bankrupt Scotland after the failed darien adventure in the 17th century, also after which England bailed out Scotland. So far from having a head start, you will immedietly be plunged into debts akin to that of Greece Ireland, Portugal etc and become irrelevent on the world stage and be forced to beg brussells and imf for bailouts.
@NumberDne Are you saying that after being a net contributer to the UK for hundreds of years, be still need to compansate you for Darien? mate, Darien was the best thing that ever happened to England. it allowed you full control over the remaining 33% of GB and all the resources that came with it. So let me get this right Scotland is the largest Oil and Gas Exporter in the EU, we have 25% of EU Green Energy, Manufacturing, Silicon Glen, Tourism, Whiskey, Finance and we will be like Greece? Lol.
@dauntless111 Greece has far more visitors than you have. And you only have a financial sector due to being in the UK. If not for being in the UK, your economy would have been dragged to the bottom of the sea by RBS and HBOS. You are the biggest oil exporter not the biggest gas exporter.
@NumberDne And you only have such a strong financial centre in London due to Empire and Union, which Scotland helped build. Your point is not well made.
@NumberDne wow, I am glad you brought that to my attention. I just looked up Greek tourist numbers, they get approx 19 Million Visits per year! But wait, what's this? Scotland gets 20 Million visits per year!
Greece has 11Mn people we only have 5Mn Thanks for pointing this out to me, I learn something new very day. Of course, most of those visits are from the rest of the UK, I am sure once we are indpendent they will be so angry with Scotland that they will decide to boycott us, oh dear.
@dauntless111 Too right we'll boycott! U dont try & internationally shame England Wales & NI by saying "sod U three, we too good 4 ya" without burning bridges & making enemies. There'r countries out there who actually had real reasons 4 breaking up union such as war, descrimination etc. But Scotland is part of one of most successful unions ever with democracy rule of law & equality for every man & woman on this island. Misplaced Greed is the only excuse you have for causing break up of the union
@NumberDne Clearly you have no understanding of Scotland place in the Union. I bet you have never even been to Scotland. Put down the Sun and the Daily Fail and try reading a book instead. I look forward to the boycott.
@dauntless111 I just explained Scotland's place within one of the most successfull unions ever. You can sit there and play the victim all you like but that don't change the fact that you and your like are driven by greed. And greed takes due care of its beholders believe you me.
@NumberDne If wanting better health, education, public hospitals, freedom, democracy and control over our own destiny makes us greedy, then gosh darnit I guess we are greedy!!! Incidentally, do you think the British Empire was motivated by greed? no, of course not. The Empire was just about civilising the natives.... you are reaping what you sow.....now!
@dauntless111 So you think you can get better health, education, public hospitals by becoming another Greece, Ireland or Portugal? Sure.. right. As for Freedom & democracy you just completely showed how delusional U are by thinking we dont have that in the UK compared to other countries out there. The British empire was motivated by the fact that empires were the norm of the time created by pretty much every country that was successful enough to create one. Scotland also tried might i add.
@NumberDne Obviously we have more faith in ourselves than you do, which is not suprising. Why do you compare us to Greece and not Austria? why compare us to Portugal and not Norway? ahhhh, I forgot, you are a Unionist. And Unionists Must use Negative Arguments At ALL COSTS! Freedom and democracy? Yes, I agree that by comparison, of course we do have it, but then tell me, why then is Scotland is currently governed by a party we did not vote for? is that Democracy? Enjoy your money printing.
@dauntless111 I compare you to Iceland & Ireland coz those are the two main countries that your guru salmond aspired for you in his rediculous socalled "arch of prosperity" before it went belly up & became a ditch of dankruptcy. Cant compare you to Austria unless U want me to embarrace U coz their population is only around twice the size of yours & yet their economy is 4 times as big as yours, so stop with your delusions of grandure, Eng wont be there to boost ur figures if you get your way.
@NumberDne Actually, Iceland is doing quite well, and Ireland still ranks higher in International Human Development compared to the UK. You think the UK is immune, but with 1.5Trillion in debt and rising along with Printing money, I think you will find that the UK will soon get a nasty shock. Scotland believes that our money is best spent investing in people, not individual bank accounts, we believe in affordable medicine, not private NHS. We actually only spend what we have, the UK doesnt.
@dauntless111 U did well to drop your rediculous wish to be compared to the likes of Austria. Unfortunately U have now gone on to the equally rediculous stance of saying Iceland & Ireland R better than the UK. In case U havent noticed, thereis & has been an exodus of Irelands youth fleeing to the UK in search of job/carreer oportunities. Irelands pretty much a vassal state with EU officials going there 2 dictate 2 them how to run their finances in the interests of the eurozone and not the Irish.
@dauntless111 & I find it quite humorous how U applaud Irelands hdi & yet fail 2 see it was done while living way beyond their means, as is now evident with the bankrupt state ireland is in, taking orders from shadowy individuals in the eerie corridors of EU institutes in brussells. I guess you are like one of those EUrophiles who insult the USA for owing so much money to China when they themselves are now begging China and the brick countries to lend them trillions of dollars in investment.
@NumberDne So you are saying if we were not in the UK, we would not have a financial centre? Wow, when you put it like that, then we must stay! Oh, England, can you please forgive us for being so stupid! So Wee! and So Poor! Please England, Please Help Scotland. If were never had union, we would still be riding horse and carts. We would not have even invented the Telephone or TV without English supervision! I can't bear the thought of it. Bring us back into the Fold England please We are sorry!
@mrkjames9 RBS is an English bank it's only Scottish by name! If Scotland was an independent country and the Royal bank of Scotland was actually Scottish the we would have easily got ourselves out of the crisis that is happening just now. As for the numbers you say are too difficult? I would say look it up you are obviously a BBC listener and haven't bothered to look it up it's easy to find! The £260 billion you mention is a much less than the real figure and that will be paid by england not us
@RichardElden I think you will find that they are a government as much as you unionists would like to disagree. Scotland has a devolved GOVERNMENT ! And yes, you are right, the SNP was a minority government. But they won more seats than any other political party in Scotland... Thats hardly a minority of the Scottish people.
And as for the second immature comment. Would you rather the people of Scotland vote for the unionist parties who cosied up in tents selling weapons with terrorist gaddafi?
@RichardElden Well i think electing an SNP government in a Scottish Parliament in 2007 was Scotland's way of saying it wants Independence. The reason that the SNP has not "called" a referendum is because the 3 unionists parties are AGAINST letting the people of Scotland decide their own future. Not very democratic is it? The Unionists never are though are they?
If the people re-elect the SNP then hopefully it will shut you unionists up once and for all !
@RichardElden Singapore, Norway, Costa Rica, Croatia, New Zealand, Uruguay, Mongolia, Jamaica, Estonia, Cyprus, Bhutan, Luxembourg, Malta are just a few countries each with a smaller population than Scotland who have NOT gone bankrupt ! As a typical unionist i wasn't suprised you would pick the failed nations like Ireland, Greece and Portugal.
As for the second remark....
It shows the immaturity that you unionists will stoop to...
Scotland is heading for Independence ! GET OVER IT !
Where do you get this information from? Newspapers?? Do you have any evidence to support that Scotland will go bankrupt without english taxpayers?
Also maybe you should get a wee atlas out and look at how many INDEPENDENT countries there are in the world with a smaller population and budget than Scotland who are actually doing quite well !
@PlayG0z haha if you dont like it tough shit :) who started all the shit between scotland and england?... ENGLAND. bout time you robbin bastards fuck off and leave us to look after our own country.
@icemanNO1 lab lib con want nothing good for scotland if u dont like snp vote ssp or some other independent party please england is ripping scotland off first the oil then water area our money and now they want our laws and our water taxed wake up england is reculturising scotland into "little england"
the women in the end of the vid ( did we not do it already) no the last time england got to vote in scottish say to say go most scots wanted to leave but england vote no
i want scotland to be independent, because scottish mps should not be allowed to vote on english matters. but on the other hand, i dont see the point of a tiny island having 3 different governments. devolution was stupid idea, but scottish/english independence cant come any sooner
how can we crash and burn u donkey... and as for not having a army its because u english twats disbanded our troops and emerged them into yours cos your all shite bags and cant fight on the front line. scotland would be in the top 6 richest countrys in the world due too the north sea oil.. our ship yards were all shut down so that english ports could take(steal) the oil to sell as theres. scotland would become a huge industry with jobs and plenty cash..
@TheBritishUnionist you are bang on. The EU whores Scotland out in a disgusting manner. Seeking independence from the EU is the gateway for development to Scotland not the breakup of the Union. Salmond is a ego driven twat with no clue of the political process in Scotland, the UK, Europe or the world. He pounces on the anti English sentiment within Scotland. That is as cheap as it comes.
The SNP are a joke. We Scots don’t want them. There about as nationalist as Stalinist Russia. Almost all there policies are nothing but puritan crap.They appear to hate cigarettes and alcohol, yet ignore poverty and unemployment. There crap and a insult to Scottish intelligence
@freddy77777 To right mate,i thought it was just me who could see through Salmond.Not only has he hijacked the Scottish flag but he wants more tv programs made about Scotland showing on tv,like views of the Highlands landscape Great Scots etc. i think most Scots know all about there history and culture without him raming it down our throats for his own agenda.
yeh we will let you have independence but it wouldn't be long before your country crashes and burns because ur small population would not be enough and what's this you dont want to be British but you want the British army yeh right that going to happen you would have to pay your own army and with would be like Kazakhstan's
id like to Scotland independent and wales and northan ireland but you and wales would go nowhere your armys would suck and your country would be poor.
@Daniel1993UK I think Scottish independence is a bad idea, the SNP are deluded and believe that if an agreement could be met with the British Government the rights to oil will be handed over... Bull!
On the Armed forces front...The most renowned regiment that has been at the forefront of the Iraq, Afghanistan wars has been the Scottish Black Watch. If theres a fight worth fighting we get sent. On the other hand all of te British Armed forces are pish anyway so it wouldn't make much difference!
English people always were hypocrites.... they preach to israel about stopping the "occupation' in palestine, but they continue to occupy scotland, northern ireland and other territories.
Old couple - it is well known the older generations feel more British than do younger generations. Their ideology is a dying one.
Young woman with dark hair - "Did we not do that already?" ....It is embarrassing to me that she thought we were independent, Apathy. Stupidity. Ignorance. And then this is what the media and the Unionists call the settled public opinion? The Unionists rely on ignorance. Educate yourselves. Use your local public library.
SNP go on like they are the next big thing. The SNP have shown themselves to be mediocre at best when it comes to government. Stop blaming the English for all your woes and get on with your job.
It makes me laugh to think the SNP have anything in common with Plaid Cymru. Plaid Cymru has a far more positive outlook on things.
@DickChambers69 Give me one example where the SNP have blamed the English? Your comment just demonstrates your lack of understanding. The SNP point to the failings of the Westminster metropolitan machine. There is nothing wrong with that. They are wuite right to hold the UK government to account. Never have the SNP blamed the English.
Would you like to offer some further comment ?
Point to examples where the SNP have blamed the English please...
independent from who? Not the european union, eh alex ya feckin arsehole.This twat just wants us to be a region in Europe takin our laws from Herman Von Rompouy. Fuck off and fiddle with some kiddies salmond, like all you cunts usually do, go back to TV and get the fuck off youtube,this place is for the truth
@fionndan why dont you google hollie griegg and see what salmond is covering up. he knows all about it, thats why im pissed off and would like to see salmond jailed
@fionndan if your well aware then you will have watched robert greene and brian gerrish both give speeches saying that they have informed alex salmond of the case and that he is complicit in the cover up.
The SNP is inclusive and visionary, as is Plaid Cymru in Wales.
Its a shame that England can't produce a decent, principled party to hold a candle to either - just the usual rag-tag bag of British nationalists who think the world owes them a living and they are somehow superior.
Yes, there are a few non-establishment parties in Westminster, while Plaid and the SNP are there, but the real action for the next generation is going to be in Edinburgh and Cardiff, no doubt about it.
He can stick his vision up his arse as it will never happen. The SNP may well be in power at Holyrood as a result of a protest vote against Labour but there is no way the Scots will vote for independence, even with David Cameron in No 10. The level of incompetence displayed by Salmond and Co is unbelievable, Al Magrahi only has three months to live? aye right, he'll be sitting at home watching the Olympics in London!!!
@prmackay1971 Aye because Magrahi single handedly took down that plane and if allowed to go to trial that is exactly what the court would have found. Sure.
@DickChambers69 No we were forced. There was never a vote. The English bribed Scottish Nobles to agree (ever heard that famous Robert Burns song? Bought and sold for English Gold, what a parcel of rouges in a nation) and we were purposely economically ruined by England, they wanted Scotland in the union and thought by bankrupting us we would have to agree, as such we were not allowed to trade with English colonies and as you know back then that would be crippling to any nation
@RandomNameName Bought and sold for English Gold? This Gold was used by the scottish parliament to pay debts it owed because it was BANKRUPT. It was not used to grease the wheels for a united kingdom. Religion ruined the Scots, not the English. Bribery was not needed to convince Scottish politicians to sign the act.
Burns was a romantic, ignorant of the reality that had befell the Scots.
@DickChambers69 Did you even read my whole comment? We were Bankrupt because the English PURPOSELY enacted economic terrorism to bankrupt Scotland which would force it into the union of face financial gain. That is a common fact and is taught in schools. And Scottish nobles were bribed, that too is taught in schools, bribery and economic terrorism were used to force Scotland into a union, fact.
@RandomNameName Not fact, conjecture. Years of siding with the French against the English was the factor that really weakened Scotland, both economically and politically.
The sad fact is that the only way Scottish nationalists can define themselves is by hating the English and believing any anti-English propoganda thrown their way. The English and the Scots have the same blood running through their veins. We are all in the same gene pool.
@DickChambers69 RE English and Scots sharing some common ancestors. Yes. You are correct. Same applies to the Welsh and the Irish. There are English surnames in Ireland as well as Scots names and Welsh names. There are also French names in England, Wales and Scotland. Don't confuse cultural affectations with ethnic groups.
Of course, for the purposes of 21st century politics, this is only relevant to those who cannot rise above shallow ideology. Not yourself of course.
@DickChambers69 You talk like a BNP voter. Oh and we also have the same blood running through our veins as the Irish. We are not however in political union with them.
@fionndan Actually, Scots ARE in political union with the Irish, as are the English and Welsh. Its called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And its here to stay!
@DickChambers69 Robert Burnsregardless of his poetry was a notorious fornicator who left a trail of abandoned pregnant lassies behind him-he had his fun, others could pay for his 'love children'.
Alec Salmond is a practitioner of anal ventriloqy. Scots voters will never vote for independence, they do FAR TOO WELL off English taxpayers. Our Scottish prime minister amongst other blunders sold off our national gold reserves at the bottom of the market then pissed the money away.
@stephenhayesuk If England subsidises Scotland that much, why then has every single government at Westminster for the last 300 years been a Unionist one ?
@stephenhayesuk A non answer. I hope those that read this appreciate your inability to provide a answer to that question as a weakness in your Unionist ideology.
The truth is that England does NOT subsidise Scotland. It is as simple as that. Unless you can convince folk otherwise I hope this will plant a seed of doubt in the minds of those Scots that are unsure about the Union and independence. We are NOT subsidised by the rest of the UK. We can thrive as an independent country.
i dont know why scotland wants independence?
youknowimright1 1 month ago
@youknowimright1 If Scotland was independent it could control its own economic policies in terms of how much it could spend and its tax. For example, currently we have huge unemployment. If Scotland was independent it could increase spending to boost the economy until it has recovered. Currently we are at the mercy of Westminster and the Tory cuts. Also, we would be in control of our own military and could determine if we went to war or not.
TheIcemanJT 3 weeks ago
The question for the referendum proposed by SNP is "Should Scotland be an independant Country?" So this should mean independant from the EU and the UN and NATO because to propose independence means independence not just from the UK becuase the question is vague but all particpating institutions.
youknowimright1 1 month ago
that which was born in blood shell end in blood and the pains shell come as birthing pains, as civil war lingers.
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ScottishRepublican 1 month ago
I would like idependence but the proplem is us Scots would need our own army,own money,own air force,own leader,own navy,own goverment and all that stuff.
LegoScotsMan 3 months ago
@LegoScotsMan - we've got our own leader and government, we would keep the pound until a time it was felt appropriate to join the euro, and the British defence force we've got based in Scotland now would simply become the Scottish defence force. Problem solved
kalslater 1 month ago
sigh, statistics show with our resources well become #6 richest in the world. End of.
amazingmason34 3 months ago
Scotland releases Al Megrahi who was one of many people who participated in Lybian State Sponsored Terrorism. Scotland is Berated for it. The UK sells weapons to Lybia and send's two UK Prime Ministers to hug and shake hands with that same State which caused the Lockerbie Bombing and the UK is NOT berated. Hypocrisy Much?
dauntless111 4 months ago
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Lets vote for INDEPENDENCE! and we can let the fat man live in his new castle and we can call him the king of scotland...fucking idiots!
quest1931 4 months ago
The only vision salmond has is for himself ,he is the A typical asshole who screws it up, takes bribes then denies everything, take us to ruin and whos going to pay for a Scottish army navy and the likes? we are while the fat one sits in his castle as king of scotland...WAKE UP!
quest1931 4 months ago
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This guy is a dickhead, lockerbie bomber release...dickhead...his new castle paid for by the people which as he describes is someplace to rest his head is way wrong and his fat head may want to stay where it is until we vote his ass out!
quest1931 4 months ago
My god the English are going to get a rude awakenning. Quite soon now too. Westminster has fought a propeganda war in Scotland but the problem for them is people are just not listening to the too wee, too poor, too stupid comments anymore. What ye going to mortgage your massive debts against when we finally claim our oil amongst other resources ha ha? Don`t even mention Scottish banks. They`re only Scottish in name. Most of their business is based in London , Englands capitol not ours ha ha.
cjmastablasta 5 months ago
i read Scottish people, most of them voted Alex Salmond but want to continue with England.
can someone clarify that? THX
amsterdamforeverful 5 months ago
@amsterdamforeverful basically most people voted for him, because they liked his economic policies, but not necessary independence !!!
theworldvideos1 5 months ago
@theworldvideos1 Thanks mate, so the referendum is not going to be success!! then now i understand why Salmond puts it in his last year of goverment.
Anyways he got the majority in the Scotish parlament, no one did the same.
amsterdamforeverful 5 months ago
@amsterdamforeverful Even if there is a referendum, most Scots would not vote for independence. Also Alex Salmond needs to get backing of most members in the Scottish Parliament to get a referendum, but he won't get that, because Conservatives + Labour+ Lib Dems votes in the parliament would stop the majority votes the SNP would need to get the referendum. The only other scottish party in the parliament that would support a referendum is the scottish greens, but they only represent 2 seats !!!
theworldvideos1 5 months ago
@theworldvideos1 Your math needs some work mate. The majoritity (hope I spelt that right) is 65 seats, the SNP have 69, the Greens have 2 and Margo (all the parties that want independence) make 72 votes yes for a referemdum so it will pass. Also support for independence has grown to 38% with against at 39%, the rest are undicided just yet but back in 2007 about 78% of people wanted a referemdum but the SNP didn't it up cos the the other parties would of voted it down.
TheSimplesteve 5 months ago
@theworldvideos1 Your knowledge of scottish politics is somewhat outdated. The SNP have a majority in the scottish parliament. They possess 69 out of 129 seats in holyrood, thus, possess the majority needed to pass the independence referendum bill, which will be passed in a year's time. Also, government polls show that the desire for independence is on the increase. At the end of 2010, 23% of scottish voters approved of independence. At the start of 2012, this figure is 38%.
derfruhlinginparis 1 month ago
@derfruhlinginparis Also, it has been shown by polls that younger voters tend to be the ones supporting independence. By 2014, when the SNP plan to hold the referendum, obviously younger people will be older and will be able to vote. More old people will have died out and the figure supporting independence will be higher. I never really liked old people anyway...
derfruhlinginparis 1 month ago
@theworldvideos1 majority mark in Scottish parliament is 65, SNP seats in parliament=69. I think they'll get it through
kalslater 1 month ago
The surname Salmond is of Anglo-Saxon origin. Your leader is a Sassenach! AHAHHAHAHAHA! Oh the irony of it! Priceless!
whitbyjet65 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65
Do you have any idea how many Scots of English descent there are in Scotland? Or how many English people live here? My great, great, great grandfather was an Englishman from Yorkshire and my great great grandfather on my grandfather's side also had a name of English origin. My name is Irish, I'm half Welsh and friends and acquaintences of mine came from Eastern Europe. Unlike England, many Scots are actually proud of the fact that people want to come here and be Scots.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
@MarvellousMuffin Of course I'm aware! That's my point. It makes me howl with laughter when the Scots call the English, Sassenachs & claim the Scots are Celts. It's total fantasy. Blood mixes and we're all mongrels (and I mean everyone in every nation). Go back far enough & you'll find you're related to a water flea just as I am. We all are! By the way, that was the classic accusation of a Scottish bigot. Making out the Scots welcome everyone & the English don't. Absolute & utter nonsense.
whitbyjet65 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65
You want to call me a bigot, you do that sir. It looks like the pot's calling the kettle black here. I will admit that I am guilty of generalising by referring to "England", but it's so hard not to bring myself down to your level with such provocation.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65
If you want to judge Independence as being purely a matter of race, that's your choice sir. I won't stop you. It's incorrect, but you're entitled to be wrong.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65
To give you an example of how your accusations feel - Your leader is of Scottish descent, as were the leaders before him. The irony of it. Priceless.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
@MarvellousMuffin Ah but the difference is, he's also your leader. He's the leader of the union as opposed to the Anglo-Saxon Salmond who wants an independent Scotland. But I hope Salmond gains his victory because I want nothing more than a break-up of the Union. I have a bottle of English ale on ice, ready to celebrate the day we gain independence from you. Good luck to the SNP!
whitbyjet65 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65
I'm sure Mr. Salmond would thank you, whitby.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65
This isn't about race, this is about nationality and identity.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
@MarvellousMuffin So why do so many Scots boast about being Celts & accuse the English of being Sassenachs? Your argument isn't consistent with reality.
whitbyjet65 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65
Because I'm not one of those Scots, whitby. Not every Scot is like that, contrary to what you believe. You can't judge an entire country like that. If some people want this to be about race rather than nationality, identity and fulfilling our true potential as a country, that's their choice. It doesn't have to be mine. Please stop mentioning sassenachs by the way, I think you were the first to bring that word up here. It means Saxon, thousands of Scots are of Saxon ancenstry.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
Scottish people are so brain washed, england is keeping scotland afloat yet they want to get independant and keep afloat? there brain washed about the oil, england dosnt take the oil the private oil companies do and all the tax most goes to scotland if the scottish didnt want a union they would right now be flying an english flag in edinburgh, 30% of britains debt average would be around 300% cause they wont earn as much countries have went soft.
TheGunner1324 8 months ago
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The rebuke will come as a major blow to Mr Salmond and the SNP, who want Scotland to be 'open to all' and believe more immigrants would boost the country's economy.
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menacinghat 8 months ago
the union jack shall no longer fly above the Bratach nàiseanta na h-Alba, it is time to establish a United Gaelic state independent of our vile British suppressors
birdmanswag 8 months ago
@birdmanswag A united GAELIC state,!! the stewarts didnt want yous! The lowland Scots dontlike yous! thats historical fact. You,ve been sidelined in our country for 400 years! NO one,s oppressed yous!Most Scots dont know yous exist and wouldnt careif they did.But your hate is strong, and its being nurtured, by people who are craftier than you are. LOOK back to your own history. and you will know.. you will be left out ..agin..
NOVATICANWARS 8 months ago
@birdmanswag United Gaelic State? What have you been smoking. Independence for Scotland END OF.
ScotsmanTillDeath 7 months ago
@birdmanswag PS - you sound like a yank saying what you just said. Stay out of European affairs...
ScotsmanTillDeath 7 months ago
@birdmanswag
But Scotland isn't a Gaelic country. We are a country with Gaels.
MarvellousMuffin 7 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS, well said
MrSouter2 9 months ago
THe people of thse islands should be COMING TOGETHER not separatedbecause of religious and other grudges and resentmentsthat makethe SNP these islands and the whole of Europe are under threat,in every way,yet these inward."shotbread tin" antiquity enthusiasts want to break up the u.k.!!
NOVATICANWARS 9 months ago
Vote SNP for a free Scotland!
Alba gu brath
BluTrollPro 9 months ago
Soar Alba
Crustalshift 9 months ago
i don't believe people should vote for the SNP but i think the United Kingdom should vote for UKIP, i have English, Scottish and Irish ancestory and would hate to see Britain fall apart, I beleive were better of together.
95jjs 9 months ago
what happens to the SNP when they hold a referendum and loose? will they disband because they will be pointless. Youve already got your independance, you are already a individual nation. Ive fought alongside scotsmen and we are united toghever, we are a united kingdom.
djpecky 9 months ago
@djpecky I'm Scottish (and British) and I couldn't agree with you more! I personally will be using my Freedom and my Independance as a person to vote 'NO' when the time comes. I do like Alex Salmond (sometimes) as he is generally good for Scotland and a lot better than the other Scottish parties on offer, but all his speeches are worded so carefully and cleverly to make us all proud to be Scottish and to make us think how amazing we would be if we were independant. And I don't buy any of it.
Genius83 9 months ago
many countrys are dreaming to be a part of UK, this stupid SNP want an independence :)
ARMENIANNN 9 months ago
@ARMENIANNN who are the countries?
milner3 8 months ago
@aggroman7 You're not so delusional as to think that Scotland would keep all the oil should it become independent, are you?
RobinScott93 9 months ago
@RobinScott93 nope, just the amount that we should receive within our own sovereign EEZ under international law, as all independent nation states enjoy.
dauntless111 9 months ago
Congratulations Scots.Croatia is with you.
spanonski 9 months ago
@spanonski
you are the ambassador?
that is like me saying ''down with independence,Scotland is not with you''
anywho,i hope Scotland gets the independence does not give so much to us and wont take our money to pay for its healthcare
menacinghat 9 months ago
@menacinghat ah yet another delusion Englishman you genuinely beleives the hype that English taxes pay for Scottish services. So sad.
dauntless111 9 months ago
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@dauntless111
They do. You will lose many of your healthcare benefits leaving the union. You are only 5 million people
menacinghat 9 months ago
@spanonski No.I'm just a person that supports oppresed people anywhere on this planet.Scots are one of them.
spanonski 9 months ago
@spanonski Scots aren't oppressed. Most Scots are opposed to independence.
RobinScott93 9 months ago
@RobinScott93
Maybe not now,but they were.They almost lost their language and their culture trough the strong anglo-american influences.
spanonski 9 months ago
@spanonski That's absolute nonsense. Scottish Gaelic use has been in decline since the 15th century. By the time America was a country, only 20% of Scots spoke Gaelic.
RobinScott93 9 months ago
@RobinScott93 You are right that Scotland isn't oppressed, but it does hugely underachieve.
I don't believe Scots are as closed-minded as you portray them on the question of independence. I don't believe they are opposed to independence. I think a great majority could easily be persuaded to support sovereignty but are naturally cautious - rightly so. And for me, that is the clinching argument as to why the United Kingdom is no longer united or sustainable.
globaltraveller 9 months ago
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Genius83 9 months ago
Scotland will revert back to the impoverished country it has always been without the massive benefits it gets from the Union. It is a real shame, United you stand and divided you fall. Would Scotland have been able to bail out their Bank the Royal Bank of Scotland and the Bank of Scotland by themselves?
N3IL67 9 months ago
@N3IL67 Same thing in America. Right now we have a govenor from texas that wants to secede from the U.S. which that will never happen. Even there is people that want the confederate states of america back I mean look what happened in the civil war in America there were over 1 million casualties counting both military and civilian casualties. Plus the south was impovrished and their currency all it was good for is toilet paper. So in the US united we stand divided we fall.
jakeharris2010 8 months ago
@N3IL67 you talk shite pal!
1966thewallace 5 months ago
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N3IL67 9 months ago
SNP have an excellent team to see us through and become independent - just like Norway which became very rich after taking control of its' oil reserves. The racists can go fuck themselves.
lewisaccent 9 months ago
This country will go right down the shitter
joshwakeman 9 months ago
SNP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mrkjames9 9 months ago
@glasgow1234 . Westminster put the stop on the vote for independence. They said England would have to be a part of the vote. That English people would be voting with us. They did a poll in England and found that most English would back us on it, so no vote for us.
This should be a Scottish vote only, with just the Scottish people voting for our right to have our own identity apart from England.
fluttereyes 10 months ago
Of course they won't give us that vote for independence, they know we will grab it with both hands.
The people who are against allowing us the vote know fine well what the outcome will be. The problem with that is that once we get it Wales and N.Ireland will follow suit and ditch England. England has no resources of its own, apart from tourism and the Royal family.
I want that vote, if the majority in Scotland vote against, then I'll accept that. Until we get the vote, we will never know.
fluttereyes 10 months ago
@fluttereyes " England has no resources of its own, apart from tourism and the Royal family"???? Actually mate, if you do your research, you will find that England has the largest onshore oil field in the EU. England also has the majority of natural gas resources in the UK. England also houses the world's largest and most important financial center which is the city of London. And the UK will stay in its current position with or without Scotland
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne I think you will find that once Scotland becomes independent the oil will be ours once again. If England subsidises Scotland then why on earth is Waste-monster fighting so hard to keep us??? That is the real question on the Scots lips.And if u do your research u will find that Scotland has been making a 1 Billion surplus every year compare that to the 700 million Cameron spends every year into the deficit. Who Subsidises who? Annabel Goldie even admitted Scotland was better off alone
mrkjames9 4 months ago
@mrkjames9 I never said England subsidises Scotland. The numbers are too difficult t work out while our economies/countries R linked, no matter how much separatists claim theres surplus & vice versa the numbers are 2 hard 2 work out til Scotland takes its liability of bank bailouts/toxic debt such as the RBS, HBOS £260 billion + pounds. & also ofcourse when Scotland receives its 2 billion n sea oil revenues. Good luck plugging the £260 billion + hole with your 2 billion annual oil revenues.
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne Scotland can't borrow money so we can't be in debt! if our bank was Scottish it couldn't borrow we don't have that power so it's your debt not ours. Don.t worry, we don't want to be your enemy! When Scotland becomes independent we will try to help you as much as we can! x Oh and good luck with your NHS reform! When i was in a hospital in America, a saw a woman frantically going through her credit cards for her son to have an appendectomy while he was "made comfertable" Good health x
mrkjames9 4 months ago
@mrkjames9 "Scotland can't borrow money so we can't be in debt"
LOL, you really are a numpty if you think Scotland cant borrow money. How the hell did you pay for your morgage? that is assuming you'r not one of the many jobseeker allowance housing benefit public sector scroungers.
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne RBS is an English bank it's only Scottish by name! If Scotland was an independent country and the Royal bank of Scotland was actually Scottish the we would have easily got ourselves out of the crisis that is happening just now. As for the numbers you say are too difficult? I would say look it up you are obviously a BBC listener and haven't bothered to look it up it's easy to find! The £260 billion you mention is a much less than the real figure and that will be paid by england not us
mrkjames9 4 months ago
@mrkjames9 "RBS is an English bank it's only Scottish by name"
1. Then please tell me where RBS is headquartered
2. If, as you say, "Scottish banks are 'English' " then please tell me how the fuck are you going to pay for your public spending budget without the financial sector i.e RBS / HBOS etc. And then tell me how you gonna finance own defence, overseas embassies, new passport systems etc in these difficult financial times. Let me guess.....north sea oil revenue??
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne
1. RBS is HQ'ed in Edinburgh, but pays all taxes to London. RBS was a successful UK bank until the crisis, then overnight it mysteriously became and exclusively 'Scottish' bank. Funny that.
2. Once we stop sending all our money to London, we can divert it away from things we do not want to pay for. Wars, Nukes, PFI, PPP, We can reinvest money to re-industrialise Scotland and you kind sir, will not need to pay for any of it. What can possibly be fairer than that to an Englishman?
dauntless111 4 months ago
@dauntless111 1. RBS has always been a Scottish bank and also a British bank before and after the crisis, which is why the British public bailed it out. Nothing funny about that. 2. If you stop sending "your money" to London, you will also have to take full liability for RBS, HBos, your own welfare, millitary , healthcare etc and on top of that, also pay for your so called "reindustrialising Scotland." Good luck paying for all that with your £2 billion oil revenue.
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne 20Bn USD from Oil this year alone, where did you get your sily 2Bn UKP figure from? re: HBOS, so even though they do far more business in England than in Scotland, Scotland would have had to bail them out? fuck that, Scotland would have let it fail, and your fellow countrymen would have lost 1000's jobs. By the way, do you know that France bailed out Belgian banks and vice versa? why? because it was in their own self interest, not out of generosity. Stop pretending to be generous.
dauntless111 4 months ago
@NumberDne If RBS was always a Scottish Bank and you think that Scotland should take 100% responsibility for it, fine. Then can you please arrange a refund of all the monies that RBS has paid in tax to the London treasury since 1727. It should come to several hundred billion pounds. With that money, we will 'refund' your bailout, buy back the bank and keep the rest. Deal?
dauntless111 4 months ago
@dauntless111 optimistic figures of North sea oil revenue = 6.5 billion. Take away 15% which hypothetically go to rest of uk & also fact that bulk of UKs gas fields r in English waters & EU's largest on shore oil fields are in England means Scotland would lose out more than u think. Scotlands social expenditure alone stands at £20 billion. Scotlands share of N sea revenue dont even come close to plugging the gap. and i remove these comments coz only meant for silly seperatists like yourself.
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne Wow, I am a silly seperatist? Google This. 'muzzerino independence and the reasons a british unionist changed his mind' You will see my blog where I describe where, until about a year ago, I was a fervent supporter of Scotland in a fair and respectful UK Union but this Union has grown so polluted, so bile and toxic thanks to people like yourself, I want out and so do many others. Only time will shed truth on who will win or lose. Personally, I hope England carries on well without us.
dauntless111 4 months ago
@NumberDne Good sir, your 2nd point is 'mostly' accurate. Yes, Scotland will pay for and take full liability or our own Welfare, Military, Healthcare. Yes, this is what we want. Once we take our 8.6% share of all UK military assets after the split, we will have already got a good head start. Hooray! Free England!!!
dauntless111 4 months ago
@dauntless111 Both my points are accurate good sir. And again i say to you. The combined debt of RBS and Hbos is even more than the one 5th loss of wealth that bankrupt Scotland after the failed darien adventure in the 17th century, also after which England bailed out Scotland. So far from having a head start, you will immedietly be plunged into debts akin to that of Greece Ireland, Portugal etc and become irrelevent on the world stage and be forced to beg brussells and imf for bailouts.
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne Are you saying that after being a net contributer to the UK for hundreds of years, be still need to compansate you for Darien? mate, Darien was the best thing that ever happened to England. it allowed you full control over the remaining 33% of GB and all the resources that came with it. So let me get this right Scotland is the largest Oil and Gas Exporter in the EU, we have 25% of EU Green Energy, Manufacturing, Silicon Glen, Tourism, Whiskey, Finance and we will be like Greece? Lol.
dauntless111 4 months ago
@dauntless111 Greece has far more visitors than you have. And you only have a financial sector due to being in the UK. If not for being in the UK, your economy would have been dragged to the bottom of the sea by RBS and HBOS. You are the biggest oil exporter not the biggest gas exporter.
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne And you only have such a strong financial centre in London due to Empire and Union, which Scotland helped build. Your point is not well made.
dauntless111 4 months ago
@NumberDne wow, I am glad you brought that to my attention. I just looked up Greek tourist numbers, they get approx 19 Million Visits per year! But wait, what's this? Scotland gets 20 Million visits per year!
Greece has 11Mn people we only have 5Mn Thanks for pointing this out to me, I learn something new very day. Of course, most of those visits are from the rest of the UK, I am sure once we are indpendent they will be so angry with Scotland that they will decide to boycott us, oh dear.
dauntless111 4 months ago
@dauntless111 Too right we'll boycott! U dont try & internationally shame England Wales & NI by saying "sod U three, we too good 4 ya" without burning bridges & making enemies. There'r countries out there who actually had real reasons 4 breaking up union such as war, descrimination etc. But Scotland is part of one of most successful unions ever with democracy rule of law & equality for every man & woman on this island. Misplaced Greed is the only excuse you have for causing break up of the union
NumberDne 4 months ago
@NumberDne Clearly you have no understanding of Scotland place in the Union. I bet you have never even been to Scotland. Put down the Sun and the Daily Fail and try reading a book instead. I look forward to the boycott.
dauntless111 4 months ago
@dauntless111 I just explained Scotland's place within one of the most successfull unions ever. You can sit there and play the victim all you like but that don't change the fact that you and your like are driven by greed. And greed takes due care of its beholders believe you me.
NumberDne 3 months ago
@NumberDne If wanting better health, education, public hospitals, freedom, democracy and control over our own destiny makes us greedy, then gosh darnit I guess we are greedy!!! Incidentally, do you think the British Empire was motivated by greed? no, of course not. The Empire was just about civilising the natives.... you are reaping what you sow.....now!
dauntless111 3 months ago
@dauntless111 So you think you can get better health, education, public hospitals by becoming another Greece, Ireland or Portugal? Sure.. right. As for Freedom & democracy you just completely showed how delusional U are by thinking we dont have that in the UK compared to other countries out there. The British empire was motivated by the fact that empires were the norm of the time created by pretty much every country that was successful enough to create one. Scotland also tried might i add.
NumberDne 3 months ago
@NumberDne Obviously we have more faith in ourselves than you do, which is not suprising. Why do you compare us to Greece and not Austria? why compare us to Portugal and not Norway? ahhhh, I forgot, you are a Unionist. And Unionists Must use Negative Arguments At ALL COSTS! Freedom and democracy? Yes, I agree that by comparison, of course we do have it, but then tell me, why then is Scotland is currently governed by a party we did not vote for? is that Democracy? Enjoy your money printing.
dauntless111 3 months ago
@dauntless111 I compare you to Iceland & Ireland coz those are the two main countries that your guru salmond aspired for you in his rediculous socalled "arch of prosperity" before it went belly up & became a ditch of dankruptcy. Cant compare you to Austria unless U want me to embarrace U coz their population is only around twice the size of yours & yet their economy is 4 times as big as yours, so stop with your delusions of grandure, Eng wont be there to boost ur figures if you get your way.
NumberDne 3 months ago
@NumberDne Actually, Iceland is doing quite well, and Ireland still ranks higher in International Human Development compared to the UK. You think the UK is immune, but with 1.5Trillion in debt and rising along with Printing money, I think you will find that the UK will soon get a nasty shock. Scotland believes that our money is best spent investing in people, not individual bank accounts, we believe in affordable medicine, not private NHS. We actually only spend what we have, the UK doesnt.
dauntless111 3 months ago
@dauntless111 U did well to drop your rediculous wish to be compared to the likes of Austria. Unfortunately U have now gone on to the equally rediculous stance of saying Iceland & Ireland R better than the UK. In case U havent noticed, thereis & has been an exodus of Irelands youth fleeing to the UK in search of job/carreer oportunities. Irelands pretty much a vassal state with EU officials going there 2 dictate 2 them how to run their finances in the interests of the eurozone and not the Irish.
NumberDne 3 months ago
@dauntless111 & I find it quite humorous how U applaud Irelands hdi & yet fail 2 see it was done while living way beyond their means, as is now evident with the bankrupt state ireland is in, taking orders from shadowy individuals in the eerie corridors of EU institutes in brussells. I guess you are like one of those EUrophiles who insult the USA for owing so much money to China when they themselves are now begging China and the brick countries to lend them trillions of dollars in investment.
NumberDne 3 months ago
@dauntless111 Yes, you also tried to create an empire, so stop acting as if the sun shines out ya arse because it don't.
NumberDne 3 months ago
@NumberDne So you are saying if we were not in the UK, we would not have a financial centre? Wow, when you put it like that, then we must stay! Oh, England, can you please forgive us for being so stupid! So Wee! and So Poor! Please England, Please Help Scotland. If were never had union, we would still be riding horse and carts. We would not have even invented the Telephone or TV without English supervision! I can't bear the thought of it. Bring us back into the Fold England please We are sorry!
dauntless111 4 months ago
@mrkjames9 RBS is an English bank it's only Scottish by name! If Scotland was an independent country and the Royal bank of Scotland was actually Scottish the we would have easily got ourselves out of the crisis that is happening just now. As for the numbers you say are too difficult? I would say look it up you are obviously a BBC listener and haven't bothered to look it up it's easy to find! The £260 billion you mention is a much less than the real figure and that will be paid by england not us
mrkjames9 4 months ago
@RichardElden I think you will find that they are a government as much as you unionists would like to disagree. Scotland has a devolved GOVERNMENT ! And yes, you are right, the SNP was a minority government. But they won more seats than any other political party in Scotland... Thats hardly a minority of the Scottish people.
And as for the second immature comment. Would you rather the people of Scotland vote for the unionist parties who cosied up in tents selling weapons with terrorist gaddafi?
glasgow1234 10 months ago
@RichardElden Well i think electing an SNP government in a Scottish Parliament in 2007 was Scotland's way of saying it wants Independence. The reason that the SNP has not "called" a referendum is because the 3 unionists parties are AGAINST letting the people of Scotland decide their own future. Not very democratic is it? The Unionists never are though are they?
If the people re-elect the SNP then hopefully it will shut you unionists up once and for all !
glasgow1234 10 months ago
@RichardElden Singapore, Norway, Costa Rica, Croatia, New Zealand, Uruguay, Mongolia, Jamaica, Estonia, Cyprus, Bhutan, Luxembourg, Malta are just a few countries each with a smaller population than Scotland who have NOT gone bankrupt ! As a typical unionist i wasn't suprised you would pick the failed nations like Ireland, Greece and Portugal.
As for the second remark....
It shows the immaturity that you unionists will stoop to...
Scotland is heading for Independence ! GET OVER IT !
glasgow1234 10 months ago
@RichardElden
Where do you get this information from? Newspapers?? Do you have any evidence to support that Scotland will go bankrupt without english taxpayers?
Also maybe you should get a wee atlas out and look at how many INDEPENDENT countries there are in the world with a smaller population and budget than Scotland who are actually doing quite well !
glasgow1234 10 months ago
Vote SNP! x
mrkjames9 10 months ago 7
@RichardElden hahahaa i dont really give a shite about that! :)
beverage2008 10 months ago
all those scottish people who want to stay with the union - fuckk off to england!
beverage2008 11 months ago
@beverage2008 Well Said
o0scotland0o 5 months ago
@beverage2008 Nationalists should be imprisoned purely because of their opinion
PlayG0z 5 months ago
@PlayG0z haha if you dont like it tough shit :) who started all the shit between scotland and england?... ENGLAND. bout time you robbin bastards fuck off and leave us to look after our own country.
beverage2008 4 months ago
FREEDOOMM!!!
beverage2008 11 months ago
@icemanNO1 lab lib con want nothing good for scotland if u dont like snp vote ssp or some other independent party please england is ripping scotland off first the oil then water area our money and now they want our laws and our water taxed wake up england is reculturising scotland into "little england"
MrScottishJamie 11 months ago
the women in the end of the vid ( did we not do it already) no the last time england got to vote in scottish say to say go most scots wanted to leave but england vote no
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago
i want scotland to be independent, because scottish mps should not be allowed to vote on english matters. but on the other hand, i dont see the point of a tiny island having 3 different governments. devolution was stupid idea, but scottish/english independence cant come any sooner
jed371 1 year ago
cmon scotland plese become indepentdent
crugoid 1 year ago
how can we crash and burn u donkey... and as for not having a army its because u english twats disbanded our troops and emerged them into yours cos your all shite bags and cant fight on the front line. scotland would be in the top 6 richest countrys in the world due too the north sea oil.. our ship yards were all shut down so that english ports could take(steal) the oil to sell as theres. scotland would become a huge industry with jobs and plenty cash..
uksaselite 1 year ago
I'm English, if Scotland, wales or Northern Ireland want separation, then let it be..
Australia, New Zealand and Canada are also seeking independence from the monarchy!
This is what democracy and freedom is all about now...
orbitpowder 1 year ago
Scottish independence? From a party that believes in the EU? Please. What a joke.
TheBritishUnionist 1 year ago
@TheBritishUnionist you are bang on. The EU whores Scotland out in a disgusting manner. Seeking independence from the EU is the gateway for development to Scotland not the breakup of the Union. Salmond is a ego driven twat with no clue of the political process in Scotland, the UK, Europe or the world. He pounces on the anti English sentiment within Scotland. That is as cheap as it comes.
MrRascasseman 1 year ago
It is only a matter of time before Scotland finally gains independence once again! :-)
coopers2005 1 year ago
@coopers2005 Nope.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
The SNP are a joke. We Scots don’t want them. There about as nationalist as Stalinist Russia. Almost all there policies are nothing but puritan crap.They appear to hate cigarettes and alcohol, yet ignore poverty and unemployment. There crap and a insult to Scottish intelligence
freddy77777 1 year ago 3
@freddy77777 To right mate,i thought it was just me who could see through Salmond.Not only has he hijacked the Scottish flag but he wants more tv programs made about Scotland showing on tv,like views of the Highlands landscape Great Scots etc. i think most Scots know all about there history and culture without him raming it down our throats for his own agenda.
YARROWS 1 year ago
are you lot retarded?
yeh we will let you have independence but it wouldn't be long before your country crashes and burns because ur small population would not be enough and what's this you dont want to be British but you want the British army yeh right that going to happen you would have to pay your own army and with would be like Kazakhstan's
id like to Scotland independent and wales and northan ireland but you and wales would go nowhere your armys would suck and your country would be poor.
Daniel1993UK 1 year ago
@Daniel1993UK I think Scottish independence is a bad idea, the SNP are deluded and believe that if an agreement could be met with the British Government the rights to oil will be handed over... Bull!
On the Armed forces front...The most renowned regiment that has been at the forefront of the Iraq, Afghanistan wars has been the Scottish Black Watch. If theres a fight worth fighting we get sent. On the other hand all of te British Armed forces are pish anyway so it wouldn't make much difference!
SuperJch1 1 year ago
English people always were hypocrites.... they preach to israel about stopping the "occupation' in palestine, but they continue to occupy scotland, northern ireland and other territories.
ofri75 1 year ago 2
S.N.P All the way.
fuck labour.
Davieboy1978 1 year ago
Why would anyone, in good conscience, support the union?
RadicalWhig 1 year ago
Note about the vox pops:
Old couple - it is well known the older generations feel more British than do younger generations. Their ideology is a dying one.
Young woman with dark hair - "Did we not do that already?" ....It is embarrassing to me that she thought we were independent, Apathy. Stupidity. Ignorance. And then this is what the media and the Unionists call the settled public opinion? The Unionists rely on ignorance. Educate yourselves. Use your local public library.
fionndan 1 year ago
SNP go on like they are the next big thing. The SNP have shown themselves to be mediocre at best when it comes to government. Stop blaming the English for all your woes and get on with your job.
It makes me laugh to think the SNP have anything in common with Plaid Cymru. Plaid Cymru has a far more positive outlook on things.
DickChambers69 1 year ago
@DickChambers69 Give me one example where the SNP have blamed the English? Your comment just demonstrates your lack of understanding. The SNP point to the failings of the Westminster metropolitan machine. There is nothing wrong with that. They are wuite right to hold the UK government to account. Never have the SNP blamed the English.
Would you like to offer some further comment ?
Point to examples where the SNP have blamed the English please...
fionndan 1 year ago
Whoops. I mean politician
DickChambers69 1 year ago
A Vote for SNP is a vote for an EU (communist) superstate where no poltician is accountable.
DickChambers69 1 year ago
independent from who? Not the european union, eh alex ya feckin arsehole.This twat just wants us to be a region in Europe takin our laws from Herman Von Rompouy. Fuck off and fiddle with some kiddies salmond, like all you cunts usually do, go back to TV and get the fuck off youtube,this place is for the truth
gerryboy3699 1 year ago
@gerryboy3699 Gerry boy. Why have you been needlessly offensive to somebody you, presumably, do not know?
I will assume that you support withdrawl from the EU. If that is the case, do you appreciate the hypocrisy in that stance? Probably not.... oh well...
fionndan 1 year ago
@fionndan why dont you google hollie griegg and see what salmond is covering up. he knows all about it, thats why im pissed off and would like to see salmond jailed
gerryboy3699 1 year ago
@gerryboy3699 I'm well aware of Hollie Greig. Please explain exactly why Alex Salmond should be jailed. Give some authority for your assertions.
fionndan 1 year ago
@fionndan if your well aware then you will have watched robert greene and brian gerrish both give speeches saying that they have informed alex salmond of the case and that he is complicit in the cover up.
gerryboy3699 1 year ago
Vote SNP for a crime ridden Scotland
steerang 1 year ago
The SNP is inclusive and visionary, as is Plaid Cymru in Wales.
Its a shame that England can't produce a decent, principled party to hold a candle to either - just the usual rag-tag bag of British nationalists who think the world owes them a living and they are somehow superior.
Yes, there are a few non-establishment parties in Westminster, while Plaid and the SNP are there, but the real action for the next generation is going to be in Edinburgh and Cardiff, no doubt about it.
Freedom calls!
rybka8888 1 year ago 10
a can jus imagine gordon brown slittin his rists in a retirement home in an INDEPENDENT SCOTLAND hahaha,
YES TO INDEPENDENCE !!!!!
Rfc1Darryl 1 year ago
Salmond's useless lmoa
He's the first minister of Scotland there's
a use .
1scot4scotland 1 year ago
Thank God Salmond's utterly useless.
DickChambers69 1 year ago
MY GOD, how could Scotland vote for this WANKER!!
GOD HELP SCOTLAND !!
madcowmoooo 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
For god sake Scotland....WAKE UP!!!
This idiot will ruin Scotland !!
All British people fought shoulder to shoulder during two world wars... AND WON !!
There is strengh in unity.
BE PROUD TO BE BRITISH.
9423978 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
For god sake Scotland....WAKE UP!!!
This idiot will ruin Scotland !!
All British people fought shoulder to shoulder during two world wars... AND WON !!
There is strengh in unity.
BE PROUD TO BE BRITISH.
9423978 1 year ago
He can stick his vision up his arse as it will never happen. The SNP may well be in power at Holyrood as a result of a protest vote against Labour but there is no way the Scots will vote for independence, even with David Cameron in No 10. The level of incompetence displayed by Salmond and Co is unbelievable, Al Magrahi only has three months to live? aye right, he'll be sitting at home watching the Olympics in London!!!
prmackay1971 1 year ago 3
@prmackay1971 Aye because Magrahi single handedly took down that plane and if allowed to go to trial that is exactly what the court would have found. Sure.
pickyourwindow 1 year ago
Greetings from Lithuania :)
Listen Lithuania was captured too and you can become independant :) the only thing you need to have is PATRIOTIZM !!!
kusys123 1 year ago
Scotland was never captured. It agreed to become part of a Union.
DickChambers69 1 year ago
@DickChambers69 No we were forced. There was never a vote. The English bribed Scottish Nobles to agree (ever heard that famous Robert Burns song? Bought and sold for English Gold, what a parcel of rouges in a nation) and we were purposely economically ruined by England, they wanted Scotland in the union and thought by bankrupting us we would have to agree, as such we were not allowed to trade with English colonies and as you know back then that would be crippling to any nation
RandomNameName 1 year ago
@RandomNameName Bought and sold for English Gold? This Gold was used by the scottish parliament to pay debts it owed because it was BANKRUPT. It was not used to grease the wheels for a united kingdom. Religion ruined the Scots, not the English. Bribery was not needed to convince Scottish politicians to sign the act.
Burns was a romantic, ignorant of the reality that had befell the Scots.
DickChambers69 1 year ago
@DickChambers69 Did you even read my whole comment? We were Bankrupt because the English PURPOSELY enacted economic terrorism to bankrupt Scotland which would force it into the union of face financial gain. That is a common fact and is taught in schools. And Scottish nobles were bribed, that too is taught in schools, bribery and economic terrorism were used to force Scotland into a union, fact.
RandomNameName 1 year ago
@RandomNameName Not fact, conjecture. Years of siding with the French against the English was the factor that really weakened Scotland, both economically and politically.
The sad fact is that the only way Scottish nationalists can define themselves is by hating the English and believing any anti-English propoganda thrown their way. The English and the Scots have the same blood running through their veins. We are all in the same gene pool.
DickChambers69 1 year ago
@DickChambers69 RE English and Scots sharing some common ancestors. Yes. You are correct. Same applies to the Welsh and the Irish. There are English surnames in Ireland as well as Scots names and Welsh names. There are also French names in England, Wales and Scotland. Don't confuse cultural affectations with ethnic groups.
Of course, for the purposes of 21st century politics, this is only relevant to those who cannot rise above shallow ideology. Not yourself of course.
fionndan 1 year ago
@DickChambers69 You talk like a BNP voter. Oh and we also have the same blood running through our veins as the Irish. We are not however in political union with them.
fionndan 1 year ago
@fionndan Actually, Scots ARE in political union with the Irish, as are the English and Welsh. Its called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And its here to stay!
TheBritishUnionist 1 year ago
@DickChambers69 *or face financial ruin, not "of face financial gain"
RandomNameName 1 year ago
@DickChambers69 Robert Burnsregardless of his poetry was a notorious fornicator who left a trail of abandoned pregnant lassies behind him-he had his fun, others could pay for his 'love children'.
Alec Salmond is a practitioner of anal ventriloqy. Scots voters will never vote for independence, they do FAR TOO WELL off English taxpayers. Our Scottish prime minister amongst other blunders sold off our national gold reserves at the bottom of the market then pissed the money away.
stephenhayesuk 1 year ago
@stephenhayesuk If England subsidises Scotland that much, why then has every single government at Westminster for the last 300 years been a Unionist one ?
fionndan 1 year ago
@fionndan Because we love you.
stephenhayesuk 1 year ago
@stephenhayesuk A non answer. I hope those that read this appreciate your inability to provide a answer to that question as a weakness in your Unionist ideology.
The truth is that England does NOT subsidise Scotland. It is as simple as that. Unless you can convince folk otherwise I hope this will plant a seed of doubt in the minds of those Scots that are unsure about the Union and independence. We are NOT subsidised by the rest of the UK. We can thrive as an independent country.
fionndan 1 year ago