I love this song! Why don't we just enjoy or admire the music, or ignore it, depending on taste, and leave abusive comments OUT? I just don't like people who act out their personal problems on the internet. This is a Velvets song. You don't like it? FINE. Go away.
@MowgliX it could be argued that people spend so much time on the internet now that it kind of is a huge part of their lives. the two are gonna collide. if you dont like it suck it up!
Yes, it is. Everything else is just lies, bullshit and marketing - do yourself a favour and don't fall for it. This is the best advice anyone can give you ever. Other than listening to my namesake...
@DamoSuzuki100 Yes, that is great advice man.. The vu embodies rock and roll in its true soul - its a way of life.. i spent enough of my life spacing out to Can but nothing touches the raw emotion of the velvets, the sounds they recorded are on a direct highway to my most human emotions, its more than music to me...
Pure awesomeness all around, but it occurs to me that Sterling Morrison is kind of buried in this mix; I wish that it were possible to bring him forward a little bit. I don't know if he actually played like that or if it's an artifact of the recording.
Whew. Doesn't that just kick your behind. For all their arty, intellectual, introspective qualities, the VU were a major league, ferocious, tight band live. I wish I could have seen them back in the day, but I was just a little kid. Oh well ... guess I better keep my ears open for when the next one comes along.
I saw Lou Reed at the Festival Hall this year (Metal Machine Music) and he was wearing white carpet slippers...did it for me....should have left then and there......after 45 minutes of a f**king saxophone playing what was never there in the first place....i realized that the white carpet slippers should have said it all.
Sometimes it takes time to understand the brilliance of MMM3. Not only are they producing feedback from saxophones, but Lou feedbacks at least five guitars against five 4X10 amplifiers all tuned to ostrich tuning; it's really amazing. Try listening to it in a few years, it'll grow on you.
when you hear them live, its like a chainsaw ripping thru the history of american music! bob dylan is in there, missisipi delta, rockabilly, garage punk, etc etc! wonderful
Charly, in his early days, couldn't even keep his rithm straight. Just listen to those old albums!
I have som bootlegs, but never heard this song. There are small pieces of lyrics which can be heard in other songs later on. As a musician, I know this is a proces. I whished all our old material would be uploaded her. Haha.
I've been waiting to share this with a musician. Keith says the thing Stones imitators never get right is the bass and drums, the way one lags slightly behind the other.
Meanwhile, the VU lead guitar? I thought everybody would know that.
If you mean with Lead, the solo guitar; well Sterling Morisson dit most of the solo's. Like for example on Rock 'n' Roll. But the real lead guitar in VU music was Lou. Most of the time the rythm guitar was really in lead! And he plays it so good. That fat sound (in that time unique) at the start of Rock'n' Roll really inspired me. The same when Sister Ray comes rolling out of your speakers. So good!!! Lou did some solo's: the simple and straight ones. (Pardon my English, I'm Dutch)
Song for Drella is beautiful. Lou and John together was great stuff. It is a shame they didn't went on together in VU. But on the other side: there can't be twe captains on one ship!
@SYR81 I'm trying to figure out why Sterling gave up music when the group broke up. Surely he could have gotten work, if only as a session artist. I realize that the VU members were poor, and you can get tired of that. He died of cancer, but that was many years later.
@SYR81 According to the credits on the first album, Lou Reed was the lead guitarist then. It was only later, when a more conventional and melodic style was needed, that Morrison became the lead guitarist.
Hello! I guess / hope its on an album called "Live at the gymnasium" from 1967, I just bought the record(2 hours ago) on Blocket so i don`t know yet!!
The album is pretty good for a short bootleg. There's a kick ass version of Run Run Run on it and supposedly the first live performance of Sister Ray (the organ is inaudible, but the rest of the components are great). It also has the same version of "Guess I'm falling in Love" from Peel Slowly and a pretty good version of I'm waiting for the man.
I was at a used store the other day, and there was a Brian Jonestown Massacre CD with a song called 'Never Get Emotionally Involved with Man, Woman, Beast or Child' on it - which is the title of ANOTHER lost VU track, that all involved have said they can't remember anything about but the title. Makes me wonder if somehow the BJM found the lyrics and/or music out there...or if they just wrote their own piece and kept the title (there's no details in the CD).
That's very interesting; I've been a huge fan of VU for the last 6 years and never heard of a track called Never Get Emotionally ... Anton Newcombe of BJM was best friends Bomp records owner Greg Shaw who released this bootleg (VU GYM) on vinyl but I'm almost a 100% sure Anton didn't overtly rip of Lou Reed, he's smarter than that, plus Anton wrote "never get emotionally" w/ Sarabeth Tucek. If anything, they he stole the title name.
correction - Moe says she can sing it in her head. Lou, Sterl and John don't apparently remember it in any detail, except to confirm a vague memory of rehearsing it.
Ive never heard this either. ive never even heard OF this. Im surprised how good the sound is. Most Velvets live sound pretty rough. This sounds better then a lot of stuff on their studio LPs. Thanks.
Thanks for posting this. It's definitely The Velvet Underground, & to me it sounds like John Cale is still in the band (after all, he left in October 1968). VU and Another View, in 1985 & '86, were assembled in a neglegible way somewhat. Probably there might be enough material out there to compile a 3rd Velvets album with Cale, including this, if 1967 is the correct date, Stephanie Says, Hey Mr Rain, Inside Your Heart, & Guess I'm Falling In Love, which inexspicably on Another View has no vocals
These '67 live Velvets tracks are the crown fucking jewels. You can hear a bunch of elements here very similar to European Son on the banana album. It's simply not possible for human beings to sound or look any cooler than this.
wow.... there is a film of Thurston Moore elsewhere on YouTube covering this song... I considered myself pretty familiar with the output of the Velvets, but didn't recognise the song he played... until now! Amazing that there are unheard velvets songs out there that weren't just jams but are fully formed songs... more please!!
Drugrocker, thank you for answering my question.
Now I will search the entire usenet to find it!
Greetz from BillyBoy
WillemMijndert 2 months ago
A workout at the gymnasium!
ChrisYonts 3 months ago
@MowgliX why do assholes bother u,me as an adult doesnt care....
Buffjinx27 5 months ago
I love this song! Why don't we just enjoy or admire the music, or ignore it, depending on taste, and leave abusive comments OUT? I just don't like people who act out their personal problems on the internet. This is a Velvets song. You don't like it? FINE. Go away.
MowgliX 5 months ago 2
@MowgliX it could be argued that people spend so much time on the internet now that it kind of is a huge part of their lives. the two are gonna collide. if you dont like it suck it up!
123jsbach 3 months ago
@123jsbach There is something besides the internet? ;)
MowgliX 3 months ago
@MowgliX i vaguely remember a yellow shiney thing in the sky? but it might just be a rumour? ;)
123jsbach 3 months ago
@123jsbach It took me a loooong time to figure that one out.
MowgliX 3 months ago
@MowgliX lol! i like youre style! :)
123jsbach 3 months ago
Oh Jebus, so cool!!!!!
MowgliX 6 months ago
im not a young man anymore either,fuck
Wahoofuck 6 months ago 8
I wanna hear this concert!!! is it on the record or cd?
Englishcivilwar125 6 months ago
Incredible sound quality. Seriously, it's shocking.
NintendoSegaSonyGuy 7 months ago
Proto-Motorik or what?
DamoSuzuki100 7 months ago
@DamoSuzuki100 it doesnt matter. its the post-proto//eternal feeling of true badass.. you cant classify what cant be explained in words
ziwzihizwiz 6 months ago
@ziwzihizwiz
Don't be silly, it's just music. Good music, but just music.
DamoSuzuki100 6 months ago
@DamoSuzuki100 perhaps it is only music to you
ziwzihizwiz 5 months ago
@ziwzihizwiz
Yes, it is. Everything else is just lies, bullshit and marketing - do yourself a favour and don't fall for it. This is the best advice anyone can give you ever. Other than listening to my namesake...
DamoSuzuki100 5 months ago
@DamoSuzuki100 Yes, that is great advice man.. The vu embodies rock and roll in its true soul - its a way of life.. i spent enough of my life spacing out to Can but nothing touches the raw emotion of the velvets, the sounds they recorded are on a direct highway to my most human emotions, its more than music to me...
ziwzihizwiz 5 months ago
i love velvet underground.
thenobs123 7 months ago
The velvets! The greatest fucking band in the universe.
dirtynuke 8 months ago
@dirtynuke ameeeen!
ana3uhiram 7 months ago
i wish i was rediscovering this song, still remember the first time i heard it what a fucking jewel.
tickntimebombfun 9 months ago
Comment removed
SlamJaw 9 months ago
Pure awesomeness all around, but it occurs to me that Sterling Morrison is kind of buried in this mix; I wish that it were possible to bring him forward a little bit. I don't know if he actually played like that or if it's an artifact of the recording.
Tsugaheterophylla 10 months ago
Comment removed
dirtynuke 10 months ago
Whew. Doesn't that just kick your behind. For all their arty, intellectual, introspective qualities, the VU were a major league, ferocious, tight band live. I wish I could have seen them back in the day, but I was just a little kid. Oh well ... guess I better keep my ears open for when the next one comes along.
Tsugaheterophylla 11 months ago
this is wicked, has a bluesy riff, but other than that, its all VU from there!
PAULisDEADMANnumber9 11 months ago
NICE. Thank you.
MrOoppoddoo 1 year ago
Does anyone know the name of this bootleg.
I thought I had it all, how frustrating!!!
I love the Velvets since 1973 and I even made a digital 'soundalike' on my Boss board.
Real music never dies.
WillemMijndert 1 year ago
@WillemMijndert it's called Psychedelic Sounds From The Gymnasium LP. go get it ;-)
drugrocker 2 months ago
@JungleBhoy1975 leave your kids with the velvets. ;) great music never dies
moLeOnPoT 1 year ago
God Bless the 60s and 70s for making my parents cool as fuck and imparting the wisdom of great music onto me.
If I can leave my kids with Arcade Fire and Muse I'll have done the same job as my parents.
JungleBhoy1975 1 year ago
@JungleBhoy1975 tits.
librathene 1 year ago
@JungleBhoy1975 you woulda done a shit job in comparison to your parents if thats what youre leaving your kids.
connorwood83 11 months ago
@connorwood83
Maybe so, but as long as I don't leave them with you at least I'll stay out of jail.
Have a nice day Mr Fritzl. Say hello to your kids for me.
JungleBhoy1975 11 months ago
The Gymnasium was on Manhattan's upper east side on E. 71 street. Now American SOKOL. I walk by there frequently.
icepickphil 1 year ago
I saw Lou Reed at the Festival Hall this year (Metal Machine Music) and he was wearing white carpet slippers...did it for me....should have left then and there......after 45 minutes of a f**king saxophone playing what was never there in the first place....i realized that the white carpet slippers should have said it all.
suereed 1 year ago
@suereed
Sometimes it takes time to understand the brilliance of MMM3. Not only are they producing feedback from saxophones, but Lou feedbacks at least five guitars against five 4X10 amplifiers all tuned to ostrich tuning; it's really amazing. Try listening to it in a few years, it'll grow on you.
pmfont 1 year ago 2
Where in the fucking Hell did you find this album?!?!!! I am jealous. Terribly. Ha. xxxx
dirtynuke 1 year ago
I want their pointy batman boots
dirtynuke 1 year ago
when you hear them live, its like a chainsaw ripping thru the history of american music! bob dylan is in there, missisipi delta, rockabilly, garage punk, etc etc! wonderful
gnowave 1 year ago
Comment removed
TheOnkruidt 1 year ago
lucky you
pete272727 1 year ago
Most definitely velvet.
dirtynuke 1 year ago
i live with 13 dead cats
artistsandbox 1 year ago 10
lou reed was a very underrated guitar player. i love the riff in this, kinda bluesy.
PAULisDEADMANnumber9 1 year ago
@PAULisDEADMANnumber9
Sterling morrison not Lou
aclockworkkelly 1 year ago
@aclockworkkelly oh, i always thought lou was lead.
PAULisDEADMANnumber9 1 year ago
@aclockworkkelly - Lou & Sterling both played leads & rhythm at various times.
surfercrow 1 year ago
just lookin at that pic shows u that band was/are totally visionary......that pic could have been taken today.......or in the future.....
poplife123 1 year ago
This is always the way I imagined VU should sound like. Sister Ray forever!
jymnmer 1 year ago
This is so incredible. Thank for posting!
asalingerreference 1 year ago
It does'nt get any better !!
Soph778 1 year ago
Jesus man I love you pal...this songs cool as shit
LaGreatChrisMaxie 1 year ago
if anyone knows the tab for that opening riff id be eternally grateful! seriously though, do tell me ha
djboony 1 year ago
i love how nobody claps. thats the best thing ever.
friskaskswhynot 1 year ago
dude these dudes are fresh sister ray is insanity
edsouthtown 2 years ago
Was Lou the lead guitar? I'm just beginning to realize how good he was. His work on Songs for Drella is to die for.
The harshness of their music could hide the fact that they were really good musicians. Mo was not fancy, but neither is Charley Watts.
ZenPapageno 2 years ago 3
Ha ha, that's a good one.
Charly, in his early days, couldn't even keep his rithm straight. Just listen to those old albums!
I have som bootlegs, but never heard this song. There are small pieces of lyrics which can be heard in other songs later on. As a musician, I know this is a proces. I whished all our old material would be uploaded her. Haha.
WillemMijndert 2 years ago
I've been waiting to share this with a musician. Keith says the thing Stones imitators never get right is the bass and drums, the way one lags slightly behind the other.
Meanwhile, the VU lead guitar? I thought everybody would know that.
ZenPapageno 2 years ago
If you mean with Lead, the solo guitar; well Sterling Morisson dit most of the solo's. Like for example on Rock 'n' Roll. But the real lead guitar in VU music was Lou. Most of the time the rythm guitar was really in lead! And he plays it so good. That fat sound (in that time unique) at the start of Rock'n' Roll really inspired me. The same when Sister Ray comes rolling out of your speakers. So good!!! Lou did some solo's: the simple and straight ones. (Pardon my English, I'm Dutch)
WillemMijndert 2 years ago 2
Your english is more impressive than that of most Americans I converse with...
HIPandiDONTmeanHOP 2 years ago
Song for Drella is beautiful. Lou and John together was great stuff. It is a shame they didn't went on together in VU. But on the other side: there can't be twe captains on one ship!
WillemMijndert 2 years ago
Comment removed
roscoe008 2 years ago
@ZenPapageno the lead guitarist was actually sterling morrison, lou played rhythm guitar and sang lyrics. but i'm sure he did solo's while playing.
SYR81 2 years ago
@SYR81 I'm trying to figure out why Sterling gave up music when the group broke up. Surely he could have gotten work, if only as a session artist. I realize that the VU members were poor, and you can get tired of that. He died of cancer, but that was many years later.
ZenPapageno 2 years ago
@ZenPapageno I believe Sterling had said he only wanted to play with the Velvets.
radiofreesimulacrum 1 year ago
@SYR81 According to the credits on the first album, Lou Reed was the lead guitarist then. It was only later, when a more conventional and melodic style was needed, that Morrison became the lead guitarist.
BlackMonk66 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this song....I enjoy it. Interesting and cool as always from the VU!
ckhanson81 2 years ago
Is there anywherr I can downlaod this.
cubyman23 2 years ago
this is a bootleg.
you won't find it.unless you can get boot legs.
I have it on vinyl.and copied on to tapes...
shaman1241 2 years ago
this is awesome i didnt even knew the song!
Phantasus87 2 years ago
i cant find this song,
its the best one in my opinion,
does anyone know what album its from?
please help! i love it!!!
simbatiggy 2 years ago
did you ever hear of google ?? :)))
stiggyh 2 years ago
hey i dont think it is on an album, although it is probably on some boot leg
djboony 2 years ago
Comment removed
willzyx12 2 years ago
Hello! I guess / hope its on an album called "Live at the gymnasium" from 1967, I just bought the record(2 hours ago) on Blocket so i don`t know yet!!
Good luck!
Peter from Sweden:
doppler62 2 years ago
so how was the album?
solargesture 2 years ago
The album is pretty good for a short bootleg. There's a kick ass version of Run Run Run on it and supposedly the first live performance of Sister Ray (the organ is inaudible, but the rest of the components are great). It also has the same version of "Guess I'm falling in Love" from Peel Slowly and a pretty good version of I'm waiting for the man.
punkace 2 years ago
I just resived the record (vu-gymnasium) now i know!
doppler62 2 years ago
the sound quality here is much better than i've managed to find of them from the time, any chance of uploading the rest of this bootleg??
unmegaface 2 years ago
Youll find it on you tude.
doppler62 2 years ago
Comment removed
djboony 2 years ago 2
this is GREAT! we can never get enough of these classic obscure Velvets tunes!
cjm73 2 years ago
I was at a used store the other day, and there was a Brian Jonestown Massacre CD with a song called 'Never Get Emotionally Involved with Man, Woman, Beast or Child' on it - which is the title of ANOTHER lost VU track, that all involved have said they can't remember anything about but the title. Makes me wonder if somehow the BJM found the lyrics and/or music out there...or if they just wrote their own piece and kept the title (there's no details in the CD).
Timmybear 2 years ago
That's very interesting; I've been a huge fan of VU for the last 6 years and never heard of a track called Never Get Emotionally ... Anton Newcombe of BJM was best friends Bomp records owner Greg Shaw who released this bootleg (VU GYM) on vinyl but I'm almost a 100% sure Anton didn't overtly rip of Lou Reed, he's smarter than that, plus Anton wrote "never get emotionally" w/ Sarabeth Tucek. If anything, they he stole the title name.
pmfont 2 years ago
Comment removed
pmfont 2 years ago
correction - Moe says she can sing it in her head. Lou, Sterl and John don't apparently remember it in any detail, except to confirm a vague memory of rehearsing it.
Timmybear 2 years ago
what a gem! thanks for the post
venisfurs 2 years ago
Ive never heard this either. ive never even heard OF this. Im surprised how good the sound is. Most Velvets live sound pretty rough. This sounds better then a lot of stuff on their studio LPs. Thanks.
satalitesarespinning 2 years ago
Very good work. Still the best.
loyman3 2 years ago
thankyou
plslvmn 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. It's definitely The Velvet Underground, & to me it sounds like John Cale is still in the band (after all, he left in October 1968). VU and Another View, in 1985 & '86, were assembled in a neglegible way somewhat. Probably there might be enough material out there to compile a 3rd Velvets album with Cale, including this, if 1967 is the correct date, Stephanie Says, Hey Mr Rain, Inside Your Heart, & Guess I'm Falling In Love, which inexspicably on Another View has no vocals
kidcalabria 2 years ago
amasing,
i got this vinyl the other day, its so good, the hole b side is sister ray
willzyx12 2 years ago
My ego is shattered... I thought I knew all of the VU stuff. This is an amazing discovery!
Greggo2 2 years ago
i love this song
wickedwatwat1 2 years ago
You blew me away with this!Thankyou so much.
19580712 2 years ago
wow thanks! please proceed!
jackhillty 3 years ago
but no-one cheers at the end :0
at0miklust 3 years ago
who cares what everyone else thinks kidd
w33dd00d 3 years ago 20
sounds great!
many thanks
sagrado5 3 years ago 2
These '67 live Velvets tracks are the crown fucking jewels. You can hear a bunch of elements here very similar to European Son on the banana album. It's simply not possible for human beings to sound or look any cooler than this.
nibs2lou 3 years ago 42
agree
1stchampagan 2 years ago
Amazing! It's them alright!
WaldoJeffers25 3 years ago 2
Unmistakably VU - gotta give us more...........
oldcheesy 3 years ago 2
wow.... there is a film of Thurston Moore elsewhere on YouTube covering this song... I considered myself pretty familiar with the output of the Velvets, but didn't recognise the song he played... until now! Amazing that there are unheard velvets songs out there that weren't just jams but are fully formed songs... more please!!
yoodooright1968 3 years ago 3
it's structure is really alot like the song "Hey Mr. Rain" alot of the same transitions.
I love how raw this is!
gordak 3 years ago 2
yeah! never heard this song before, sounds fine!
AcidDroog 3 years ago 2
Great, thanks for this. Shame there isn't more film of them.
MickeyZero79 3 years ago
we want more,
Sterling is brilliant, and Johnny is there as well, whoaaaahw !!
bakabana1966 3 years ago 3
Just gets better with each listen.
jimlappin 3 years ago 2
Brilliant tune - right . Great sinister appeal to it.
Cheers.
jimlappin 3 years ago
Great track....thanks for posting!
Which bootleg did this come from?
Do you have the tracklisting?
danny19731973 3 years ago
Its genuine... the existence of the song was confirmed before the bootleg was out.
punkace 3 years ago
awesome thank you
EMPower08 3 years ago