teh mine i work at runs a lot of the 16v quad turbo 4 stroker 2000HP DD's..on each valve cover it has MTC in raided lettering with DD under it..anyone have any idea what MTC is? great vid!
@ginomaxo thanks for insight i the screamin jimmy's! and they shut down my favorite little water truck with the 8v Screamer..i did put up my walkaround on it, but unfortunately, the sound disappeared somewhere in the upload...
We have a lot of those engine in my country (dominican republic) also from detroit diesel we have 2/3/6in line/6v/8v/12v/16v/24v-71 in gen set and marine , we also have 8v/12/16v 149 , 3/6v/8v-53 automotive , marine and gen set al series 92 , great engine and the new ones series 60 , 2000 , 4000 , 40
Detroit 71-Series diesel engines were used in hundreds of diferent applications in HP ratings from about 30 HP to over 700 HP (16V-71)up until about 1990. At that point developments in 4-cycle diesels made the 2-strokes obsolete due to fuel economy, emissions, complexity, and noise and the 2-strokes have now been discontinued.
Your correct on the emissions being the #1 reason, along with complexities in the block castings..however,the two strokes may yet "comeback" due to the fact they can sustain higher static compression ratio's and therefore lend themselves to "cleaner" burning fuels,especially Ethanol or Methenol based derivatives. The four strokes are "cleaner" up to around the 40,000hp levels,from there up is the domain of the two strokes,in efficiency and emissions. Now, a scaled down EMD, Hmmm!!
JGMagoo Actually, the 71series went to over 1200hp in marine trim, and the last 12v71 came off the line in Oct.1994, and the 92series in 1996 (I may be wrong on the 92). However, two strokes are not "dead & buried".. ...in fact are "alive and well", courtesy of a company down in Florida by the name of World Power Products (if,not mistaken), and are manufacturing an upgraded "96" series (96ci per cyl.) in V-8, 12 & 16 cylinder configurations, primarily for the marine mkt. Google them.
They did in fact build 24V71's and even 32V71's. They are listed in the model index of my 1973 Dietroit Diesel Partsbook. Model numbers:7242-0200, 7242-9000, and 7242-9200, 7322-0000, 7322-9000. I personally put a piston kit in a V24 on a dive boat equipped with a pair of V24's. They are configured"butt to butt" with a marine gear sandwiched between them. Propeller shaft dropped out low and ran beneath the rear engine. I've been a Detoit Diesel Dealer for 35 years. You are correct about 149s.
All of the 2-stroke 71-Series DO have exhaust valves operated by a camshaft and rocker arms. The INTAKE ONLY is through ports in the cylinder wall. The intake is forced in at the bottom of the stroke and the exhaust valves open simultaneously. The intake air then 'chases' the exhaust up and out. The exhaust valves close at the same time the piston covers up the intake ports, thus trapping the new air charge.
@BBAHUNTER i agree - 71 cubes is a rounded number for marketing purposes. I should have used the bore stroke displaced volume to get an accurate number like you did. It is only off by 16 cc.
In my old VW i run that plus a quart of non-detergant 30w per tank of fuel to restore lost lubercating propertys plus the new fuel is much more thin causein lower pump pressure. I would mix diesel and 30w oil at 40:1 just like a 2 cycle for that old of an engine as it was designed for 5,000 parts per million sulfur where as todays fuel is less than 15
Yes, this has a very thin blower. The rotors are less than two inches wide. These rotors are three lobed and their dimensions are similar to larger 1-71 blowers except for their width.
There's no way that thing can be a real Detroit.
Just look at the block; not a drop of oil! XD
DasMidnightDrifter 1 year ago 5
That ia amazing!: Im not sure ive ever seen a diesel powered genset this old and from GM no less....cool to see though :)
matts6887 1 year ago
Alright now take off the muffler and make it a real detroit lol
nachos1990 1 year ago 4
Thanks for listening to that viewer who wanted the music removed. YouTube needs more like you.
mpwelk 1 year ago
wow !!!! GREAT LOOK EN LIL ENGINE !!! GOOD VIDEO..HAVE DRIVEN MANY DETROITS IN THE PASTED 53,.71,92
EVEN MY LITTLE PLASTIC MODEL LEAKS OIL : > )) GO JIMMYS >))
davethomas4061 2 years ago
teh mine i work at runs a lot of the 16v quad turbo 4 stroker 2000HP DD's..on each valve cover it has MTC in raided lettering with DD under it..anyone have any idea what MTC is? great vid!
dustystix76 2 years ago
sorry about my typos..runnin on very little sleep lol should be "raised lettering"
dustystix76 2 years ago
it means MTU , its not a 'real' detroit 2 stroke as they are a european engine that aquired DD a few years ago ( or it may have been vice versa)
its a shame as i love the old bird scarers
ginomaxo 1 year ago
@ginomaxo thanks for insight i the screamin jimmy's! and they shut down my favorite little water truck with the 8v Screamer..i did put up my walkaround on it, but unfortunately, the sound disappeared somewhere in the upload...
dustystix76 1 year ago
Is this the R.A. Hanson in Spokane,WA?
gwhand39 2 years ago
This is one sweet looking little genset. Someone did great work on the resto.
localcrew 3 years ago
We have a lot of those engine in my country (dominican republic) also from detroit diesel we have 2/3/6in line/6v/8v/12v/16v/24v-71 in gen set and marine , we also have 8v/12/16v 149 , 3/6v/8v-53 automotive , marine and gen set al series 92 , great engine and the new ones series 60 , 2000 , 4000 , 40
localama 3 years ago
I had never heard of a GM 1-71 before only a 3-71.
Interesting vide, thanks for sharing!
OzzInter 3 years ago
Great video of a wonderful and quite rare engine. Thanks so much for posting it and letting us hear it run.
JGMagoo 4 years ago
Fascinating to hear a 2 cycle diesel:
no valve clatter, just the regular rap of normal detonation.
It is very easy on the ears.
I wonder why this plan wasn't carried down to the present day?
reidsteam 4 years ago
Detroit 71-Series diesel engines were used in hundreds of diferent applications in HP ratings from about 30 HP to over 700 HP (16V-71)up until about 1990. At that point developments in 4-cycle diesels made the 2-strokes obsolete due to fuel economy, emissions, complexity, and noise and the 2-strokes have now been discontinued.
JGMagoo 4 years ago
I've always heard emissions are the #1 reason, then followed by the other ones you listed.
Righty736 4 years ago
TurbinePower69 4 years ago
Kinda hard to say exactly what was #1, but any one of the above would 'kill' an engine in today's competitive market.
JGMagoo 4 years ago
TurbinePower69 4 years ago
didnt DD come out with a 24-71 too? V-24!
DionysiosA76 3 years ago
No...DD never did build a V24 in the 71 series, although there have some "special"
configurations put together by some of DD's
vendors, ie: Stewart/Stevenson and others,but
DD never did build anything larger than the
v16 in either the 71 or 92 series.
Detroit did manufacture a V20 in the big 149
series for Marine applications, and a few found their way into mining applications, as
well.
TurbinePower69 3 years ago
They did in fact build 24V71's and even 32V71's. They are listed in the model index of my 1973 Dietroit Diesel Partsbook. Model numbers:7242-0200, 7242-9000, and 7242-9200, 7322-0000, 7322-9000. I personally put a piston kit in a V24 on a dive boat equipped with a pair of V24's. They are configured"butt to butt" with a marine gear sandwiched between them. Propeller shaft dropped out low and ran beneath the rear engine. I've been a Detoit Diesel Dealer for 35 years. You are correct about 149s.
scramcraz 2 years ago
scramcraz.......hmmmm, thanks for those numbers......and if I understand you....your saying the these marine 24 &
32V's were actually two seperate 12V's
& 16V's that were set up...back to back
with the marine gear and propshaft placed in between them...correct ?? and
were these setup from Stewart / Stevenson, or config'd at DD that way....because
that was one of their specialties with
marine setups...and they did have their
own part no's for them.
TurbinePower69 2 years ago
All of the 2-stroke 71-Series DO have exhaust valves operated by a camshaft and rocker arms. The INTAKE ONLY is through ports in the cylinder wall. The intake is forced in at the bottom of the stroke and the exhaust valves open simultaneously. The intake air then 'chases' the exhaust up and out. The exhaust valves close at the same time the piston covers up the intake ports, thus trapping the new air charge.
JGMagoo 4 years ago
Oh, never mind about the comment on the other vid, this is music to my ears!
coolbluelights 4 years ago
NICE. :)
tucker1040 4 years ago
Sound sweet!
gooseknack 4 years ago
for fuel additive use marvel mystery oil- use with-
your other additive--this is great for diesel or gas
engines- i also use in my vintage gen-sets-cars-trucks
it wont ruin-carbs like lead-substitute- plus marvel-
will protect all parts .....
54blueflamesix 4 years ago
great-video my great-grand parents lake hose-still
has a 1930s-fairbanks power system as a back-up power.
my cabin has a flathead ford power gen-set- installed
in 1941-when cabin was built--i run it a lot just to-
hear the old flathead run. i would rather have a old
more reliable power gen-set any day-plus they sound
great!!!
54blueflamesix 4 years ago
Great Vid, thanks for posting the ol' girl....
nighttrain1067 4 years ago
What a lovely little generator set. Good work guys.
ScammellScarab 4 years ago
what cc is it?
jaggass 5 years ago
It is 71 cubic inches. At 16.387 cc per cubic inch it calculates out to 1163.477 cc or 1.163 liters.
SmartPlugs 5 years ago
@SmartPlugs 1 liter = 61.0237441 cubic inches
BBAHUNTER 1 year ago
@BBAHUNTER
I think that if you divide 71 cubic inches by 61.0237441 cubic inches per liter, you get 1.163 liters.
SmartPlugs 1 year ago
@BBAHUNTER
I think if you divide 71 cubic inches by 61.0237441 cubic inches per liter, you get 1.163 liters
SmartPlugs 1 year ago
@SmartPlugs I think 71 CI is a shortened description. I think it was actually 1147cc. 4.25" bore 5" stroke.
BBAHUNTER 1 year ago
@BBAHUNTER i agree - 71 cubes is a rounded number for marketing purposes. I should have used the bore stroke displaced volume to get an accurate number like you did. It is only off by 16 cc.
SmartPlugs 1 year ago
In my old VW i run that plus a quart of non-detergant 30w per tank of fuel to restore lost lubercating propertys plus the new fuel is much more thin causein lower pump pressure. I would mix diesel and 30w oil at 40:1 just like a 2 cycle for that old of an engine as it was designed for 5,000 parts per million sulfur where as todays fuel is less than 15
Jthumper 5 years ago
That pump will not like todays ultra low sulfer diesel, id add a pump lube to every gallon of fuel :)
Jthumper 5 years ago
Very good point. What about Power Service Diesel fuel additive with SlickDiesel?
SmartPlugs 5 years ago
My question does it have a little roots blower? Those Detroit's always had a blower even the 2-71,s
lordtaw 5 years ago
Yes, this has a very thin blower. The rotors are less than two inches wide. These rotors are three lobed and their dimensions are similar to larger 1-71 blowers except for their width.
SmartPlugs 5 years ago
very unique, unusual engine, I have driven a number of 6-71 and 8-V92's in the past, didn't know they used to make a 1-71!
hottrodscars 5 years ago