JFK assassination plot in Chicago

[scorpio888]

Of course Vallee was an intended patsy in Chicago, in the same plot which succeeded in Dallas. But the locals in Chicago were alerted to Vallee before JFK could be killed there.

So the plan was moved to Miami, and then Texas.

And Bolden suffered greatly for his integrity.

[lizardfirefighter110]

Well there you have it, put that in your pipe Mr. Bugliosi and smoke it!

[centurion180ad]

All of this is exactly so but reflexes ought not have been the deciding factor at Dallas. Many of the God damn windows surrounding the kill zone were wide open on all sides of the streets, so any 1 agent in any of the several vehicles in the motorcade ought to have allerted and the presidential limmo should have never come anywhere near the plaza.

All those fuckers lead him into the kill zone.

[NOC63]

Marrs did some great early work , and still is active . I'll admit he didn't help himself with the UFO crap..LOL. Dosen't' both side of the debate accuse the other of cheery picking.? Thats old hat my friend. I am aware of common threats to any administration. Back to Diem. The WH isn't going to make a public statement about a threat. No more than Robert would publicly oppose the Warren Report, until after he was in the WH him self .Thats Per David Talbot! Now, Back To Your Sources Which Are..??

[jacobji5]

@NOC63 What is your crazy problem with reality? We have plenty of "neighbors" in this galaxy. Marrs is just talking about other continuous cover ups by government. Maybe you are scared.

As for the asshole calling himself 45arther, what do you expect from Thomas Lowery? That is one of Lowery's many screen names on youtube. A discredited CIA ass wiper.

[JgarfbiHoover]

@jacobji5 "We have plenty of "neighbors" in this galaxy"

~ Jacob 'The Harvard Hebrew from Jew York City'. Thats not the Q. The Q is what are the probabilitys that they have visited us? (w/the multi-million $/Yr. cottage hoaxing industry in mind 0%)

~ Jacob is a laterday Norman Vincent Peale who wrote "Take your heart & throw it over the fence & the rest of u will follow" Any person walking around looking for a fence to throw their heart over probably let go of the brain sometime before that

[JgarfbiHoover]

@NOC63 "Marrs did some great early work , and still is active"

~ Life long friend and reporting colleague of Jim Marrs * is The History Channel's Ace Detective Dave Perry who said of Marr's

"You're lucky in one million words spoken by him, to get one word of truth"

* Marr's book 'Crossfire : The Plot to Kill Kennedy' grew out of what was originally a book on JEH exclusively. Called : Crossdressing : The Plot to Exonerate the Guilty & Implicate the Innocent .... Trailer Trash Talker

[NOC63]

Thanks for this, and God Bless Agent Bolden. No one can put Oswald in Chicago or in Florida for that attempt. Which is a clear and present indication. That JFK's death was beyond Oswald.

Oswald happened to be a part of option three team, thats all! CIA developed Several "off the shelf patsys. There was no shortage of skilled mechanics and teams thru the ZR/RIFLE opt or thur the Operation 40 dudes many of which are said to be right in the mix. It warms my heart to see Lane active again.

[45arther]

@NOC63 typical conspiracy nut crap. all this is, is a exconvict who used to be an SS agent making stuff up. And of course the nuts out of ignorance believe it. There is no proof of this at all.

JFK canclled the Chicago trip because Diem was killed in Vietnam that day. Only an idiot thinks JFK was going to a football game the day that Diem was killed. Just more internet ignorance.

[NOC63]

@45arther Look "ShitAss" I don't know what kind of Hobbit Hooch your'er living in. No Chicago or Florida threats Right! Drink all the Kool Aid you want. You and your nut job pals can Do Si Do, while Arlen Specter Plays the fiddle. You and Bugliosi can have a tickle fight to see who can cut in first, and the whole affaire would have all the credibility of a "Monkey Shit Fight" . Any More Brain Stroms..?

[45arther]

@NOC63 says a guy who believs am ex con with ZERO to back it up. One more conspiracy nut..big deal.

[NOC63]

@45arther In an effort to be less caustic. I am hardly the Post Police here, and normally a pretty agreeable person. I will agree with you in areas, on Palamara. not that he's a bad guy, I don't know him. I am always leery of people that appear to be attempting to attach them self's to the history, or event. Or say things like I am in fear for what I have discovered etc, as with Groden in the 80's. and I like Robert Groden. But that only serves to be an embarrassment to them in the end.

[45arther]

@NOC63 palamara is a bad guy. Matter of fact he is a piece of shit. He goes out of his way to bash innocent people. and I know he goes out of his way because he so obviously cherry picks. He is not looking for the truth, when he cherry picks. he is looking to make a name for himself. at others expense. Thats not a good guy. thats a piece of garbage. I also notice he runs whenever anyone who knows what they are taling about challenges him. he knows he is a fraud.

[NOC63]

@45arther I can't Confirm, Deny, Or Discuss. lol" As it relates to this guys character, or personally. I'll defer to you, as you appear to have the pulse of his activities. I will say for some one charging his delight with the "Big Deal attention he has caused, with those who are at all interested. Your attacks appear to be right in line with supporting that continued attention. I think anyone taking a critical look, on the surface, can see he's made some poor choices to say the least.

[NOC63]

@45arther What dose he need in your opinion to "BACK IT UP..?? HE WAS THERE!! Depending on who and how much you read. There are first hand accounts to people like Seymour Hersh and others, Form agents that was on detail attempting to protect Jack, that thought of him as an unstable national security risk racked with std's. One dosent have to look far to confirm the dim view many around Jack had of him. No shortage of JUDAS in 1963. I think Curtis LeMay would be agreeable to that. Dont you.? LOL

[45arther]

@NOC63 nobody else agrees there was a big plot to kill JFK in chicago. There was a nut that was taken care of. In many cities there were threats like this. Bolden is lying about the huge threat in chicago. and it has led people to assume that means it was connected to the one in Dallas. For gods sake Bolden is nothing but an excon who made some money off the JFK killing.

[NOC63]

@45arther I'll respond simply by saying several Actual Researchers, Marrs, Waldron and others, have addressed this matter, and have provided evidence not at all in line with your views. But you have a right to your Opinion.. I will again make an open request that you begin the Site Your Sources! THREE incidents in the Summer of 63. Going after Bolden dosen't change that at all. I don't feel Secret Service was directly involved. They were literally asleep at the wheel, when it counted

[45arther]

@NOC63 lol you are calling Marrs an actual researcher. Come on, thats the problem with the conspiracy crowd. You are listening to a cherry picking who has made a career of trying to make everything look like a mconspiracy. look at his list of books for gods sake,

you are calling them incidents. president are threatened all the time. the chicago motorcade was cancelled because diem was killed. Simple as that. the tampa motorcade was not cancelled.

[TheMackLyons]

@45arther And that's the beauty of it. He gets framed, goes to jail and now no one believes him because, after all, he is an ex-con. The system works.

[45arther]

@TheMackLyons he is a liar..tghats why he wen to jail. no proof at all except for him.

[explorer2101]

The four guards were called off the corners of the car - totally against official protocol. Without this occurring no-one could have got a clear line into Kennedy.

Has anyone ever explained why this was done? Has anyone been disciplined or prosecuted for this? Indeed, were not the people involved promoted afterwards? That speaks volumes

If you watch the film of the assassination it seems obvious that the CIA orchestrated his death

[45arther]

@explorer2101 you have been dumbed down by a fraud named vince palamara. it wasn't against protocol. YOu can study JFK motorcades from as early as 1961 wirth the same set up. You can also find some of Ike, and Truman with the same thing. It was mostly a sign of the times.

What happened is the fraud Palamara trying to make a name for himself made up this lie, and many people on the internet have bought it, Research it for yourself. Vice likes it that people bought his lie. he is a big deal.

[mcmchugh99]

A few more of those "lone nut" assassins with CIA connections and rifles with telescopic sights--and no one even bothered to find out who they were.

[hogger129]

@mcmchugh99 - the cia knew who all these people were. they used them against their enemies. i wouldn't be surprised if everything those "lone nuts" had was cia supplied or supplied by people connected with the cia. it's obvious who killed kennedy. cia approached the mafia to kill kennedy. they had all the right connections to do it. the mafia used cubans to do the hit.

[larrywheels]

the guy did 6 years in the joint for rocking the boat-the word in the underworld was that jfk was going to be hit. even a jack ruby prostitute on a dope run - rose cheramie knew it. look at the behavoir of the secret service detail in dallas- they got drunk the night before in ft. worth. those guys got promoted -bolden got framed and put in jail. this was an era where j edgar hoover could pal around with frank costello and murchinson in texas and george wallace got praise for being a racist.

[sboudreaux27]

JFK was a moving target and 5 days before Dallas, he was in Florida in an open limousine: it was only a matter of time.

[revluzionnotelevised]

Thomas Vallee looks a hell of a lot like Oswald. f**king scary, we'll probably never know for sure who was behind the assassination...

[marcostar57]

So the SS agents "bungled surveillence" of the suspects and they just disappeared; yea right! Another cover-up; and it seems to me that since this plot was uncovered by agent Boldon (and later he was, of course, discredited & ignored) it had to be scuttled, and the assassination was then rescheduled for Dallas. Amazing stuff!

[chgosatrap]

Thanks for this posting. I was a little girl when JFK was killed. We were all shocked.

[fetusjuicefuck]

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[giles422]

excellent posting- thank you very much for it.