AKB48 - RIVER (Live Mnet Asian Music Award 2009)

[RNxoya14]

Actually I've been a much longer Jpop fan than Kpop...and at the start I didn't see what was so great about AKB but I looked at their songs and interviews and they're very down to earth, normal girls. They do a lot of charity work especially when Japan was having bad times... Korea don't welcome outsiders in their country but are more than happy to set foot everywhere else. Its disgraceful sometimes. Its ok they don't need Korea anyway. Everyone comes to Japan.

[namiki1a]

AKBって自分のことしか考えてない連中でしょう？総選挙の時と­か思いやりが感じられないしｗ

それにほとんどが恋愛曲ばっかで面白くない・・・

他のは歌詞に意味がないしｗｗｗ

[keytube06]

the most rasis people in the world= korean people. The country where the artist is treat as a slave. Thats why the slave always find freedom in other country.

[winnietehpoohie]

They should treat AKB48 better. K-Pop groups goes over to Japan, and they give them good treatment... but I see these K-Pop groups watching AKB48 as if they're far superior than them. AKB48 can sell a million copies in a single day. Your "unnies" and "oppas" should learn from them. <.<

[MrKunyak]

what the hell happen with them :(

they're you different in here

[wrenn17]

i just recently started to love them.. waaa

[RabbitX26]

this mustve been the smallest stage ever on mama

[tubeyou5046]

they are so cute more than K-pop

[AKBXYZ48]

A K B 4 8  GO GO GO !!

[ashea16]

Jpop and kpop have different style, so don't hate if you don't know anything! Stop being ignorant you immature kpop fans! I'm a fan of both JPOP and KPOP and i know a lot of groups! Stop hating, stick to your favorite groups and shut your dirty mouth.

[Gokaiger203heroes]

GO GO AKB48,SNSD FUCK

[RosiiDesu]

They worked hard ...

Go AKB !

[thrillxofxice]

I don't get why people are arguing here. J-pop fans are assholes. K-pop fans are assholes. No one is innocent and no one is better than the other. Can we move on and start enjoying music because we enjoy it rather than where it comes from? -_- Hipsters? Yeah, more like posers.

[junjoukoi02]

I loved how even though AKB performed in a small stage, they managed to pull it off

Go AKB :D

[janelleness]

im also into kpop. and i find it disrespectful that kpop stars who goes to japan expected the vip treatment when they can't even return the favor -.- akb is big in japan. as in huge. i've just discovered them just this month and i seriously think they're awesome and they work hard

[winnietehpoohie]

I'm more into K-Pop than J-Pop but those celebrities laughing and mocking AKB48 was kinda rude.

I'm not even a fan of AKB48 and I'm defending them lol

That was so fucking rude and disrespectful... Even though, I'm a fan of Kara, 2PM, 4Minute, etc., I seriously got second-hand embarrassment while watching this.

[thrillxofxice]

@winnietehpoohie Er...no one was mocking/laughing at AKB. Nicole was laughing because she noticed the camera was on her. She does it all the time. Everyone else was just sitting there and staring. Taecyeon was commenting on something...the number of members it looks like. I didn't see any disrespect from any of the celebrities. Just because they're not sitting there smiling, that doesn't mean they're being disrespectful. They sit there and laugh and comment even when Koreans perform.

[takeovertarget01]

今や返り討ちだから世の中面白い

[applegirlSJ]

I died there with the guy counting the thousand members. LOL

[keiralionel]

was it awkward becausethey performed in a korean show?

[icierrrrrrblue]

@keiralionel Stage was too small too accommodate the amount of members

[onenaruto012]

レベルひっく！

[NobodyLovesLikeYouDo]

i love AKB48 ... they are so confident in presenting their dance .. i like the spirit of that .... we need the spirit to become better and they have it.!!

[yannerish]

@DJ Trololol keep mouthing whatever you want. still can't change the fact that they sell more than all your oppas will ever do. n excuse me but do you know what jpop is? Please don't mistake it as akb or je or an idol hell hole like your awesome kpop. Do some research about things you don't know n stop being so buttburt 

[DJTrololol]

Wow, if it wasn't for the hostess/MC, i would have thought this was some kind of high school talent show. Sorry but AKB48 isn't about professional skills; it's about insanely large roster of members to fill the void of emptiness. Otakus loaded with money spend their life savings on this trivial shit they call "jpop music". Jpop and music shouldn't belong in the same sentence.

[tiffany10001]

whats with all the hate between j pop n kpop here? im a huge kpop fan but i gotta say that i am sadden by how the artists here acted, i mean they wouldnt like it if while they where performing another artist to be looking at them weird or making fun of them right? not to mention that if jpop wasnt "any good" then our kpop artists wouldnt be wanting to break into the japanese mainstream now would they? everyone calm down n enjoy whats really important, the music thats why we're all here right?

[yukoxtakamina]

Atleast they aint plastic. Lol. Theyre really talented. People just have to research on them first before they say shit about them.

[deathpoint1001]

I LOVE AKB48<3

[chacha17heabern14]

i am a girl and i love them and i am foreign fan.

[TurtleLoveEri]

Oh wow the haters here make me laugh. You're all pathetic. Go back to fawning over your opparz.

Akb kicks ass. Fucking deal with it, you losers.

[silentspeakerlove]

I am a girl and I love AKB(: as a fan(: Nihonftw<3

[itznhcandelario]

lol they suck

[abpisinthehouse]

LOL @ Taec trying to count all the members

[yvonnezkea]

I'll never be a fan of AKB48 because I'm a girl and I seriously don't like their concept but hey I way prefer Jmusic to kmusic (even though I like one kpop group) and I will always marvel at how ignorant 95% of kpop fans are of jpop :'D It's pretty sad actually. They hate jpop cos they like (/love) kpop, but they really know nothing about it.

[Cookai16]

@yvonnezkea a lot of girls like AKB48 too, including me but hey you're not into AKB so I guess you don't know much about them and their fans either :-)

[yvonnezkea]

@Cookai16 No no no you're mistaken. I know a lot about AKB. I wouldn't comment otherwise, trust me! You are mistaken about my comment. I never said that AKB doesn't have female fans. I said that "I" as a girl do not like their concept (same way as I do not like 90% of the kpop girl group concepts). That being said, I like Takamina as an individual member cos she seems to have a great personality.

[lindawulanmeida]

@asdfhwert SO?

[namiki1a]

ＡＫＢキモい(笑)

[Ms131997]

Ha ha! Nicole Kara must be laughed because she found out that her face is in the camera. BTW I like their performance. Their dance and formation aren't simple but they can do it in a small stage. And their voice also good, controlled and I like the melody.

Who said their performance are assholes?! To people who compared Jpop and Kpop here should learn to respect both country. Go Kpop and Jpop!

[DJTrololol]

These amateurs don't deserve a larger stage. Infact they'd should be dancing at a rundown grocery store to market rice bags -- that's all they're good for with their performance skill.

[TheCypherxz]

just estimate one AKB48 single sell at $25, And they sell 1 300 000 CDs in a day.

They alrdy earn a total of $32 500 000, just for singles. And Including all their official merchandise that people buy? LOL. What FAMOUS KPOP IDOLS earn right now is NOTHING to them. KPOP idol must really learn from them.

[DJTrololol]

@TheCypherxz You should learn to do math someday. They only sell that much because japan has a larger population. You're blind delusional belief that the sales have anything to do with musical talent is laughable at best.

[OoMisaChi]

@DJTrololol Yeah you're right but that wasn't include Worldwide yet! If you think that they aren't talented,then why did they latest single 'Kaze wa Fuiteiru' sales MILLIONS just in 1 DAY?! And sorry,this time,No Bikini,Lingerie and Sexy possing! That's also goes to they other single which is Beginner,Flying Get,River,Sakura no ki ni narou and few other which sell MILLIONS in few days/weeks! You my friends,really do underestimate em' so much aren't you?

[DJTrololol]

@OoMisaChi Silly little wapanese. Your biased opinionated argument is invalid. In Japan, population and economic position dictates sales, not musical talent. By your logic, you are appraising justin beiber. Also, your punctuation is terrible. You said Million Sales in one day, so you've just proven my point. Thanks.

[OoMisaChi]

@DJTrololol My...you pretty are a Racism too aren't you? Calling me 'Wapanese'? Shame on you! Guess your parent never teach you to behave. I never say JB so you don't have to include him with AKB48 and sorry since English are NOT my language,you can't expect me to have a Excellent English right? Well..maybe you are type of person who doesn't know ANYTHING bout AKB,Jpop/Jrock and probably Japanese Entertainment that's why you act Racism? :)

[DJTrololol]

@OoMisaChi You are visibly upset kid. Is that the best you can do? LOL you can atleast try. You're coming off a bit slow but seriously.. I guess it can't be helped from someone as slow as you. Enjoy your autism and down syndrome.

[OoMisaChi]

@DJTrololol Gosh...i guess that's how you treat people eh? Even in your life! Sorry but i'm not a pathetic person like you who go bashing on others and think that he/she are BETTER than anyone like you! I guess it can't be help from someone who Racism,Pathetic and Fool like you then :) Oh well,Enjoy your life while you still can. It's pointless having a argument with some one like you.

[DJTrololol]

@OoMisaChi mmmm, Sweet tears. Cry more, coot.

[SCANDAL128]

LOVE IT!!!!

[okwatever123]

the stage is too small for them.....:(

[fsdsfhfhdfhd]

this band dance perfome is same asshole.you can see korean group is dance and voice like angle

[TonksLunaHermy08]

@fsdsfhfhdfhd hahahah bash them all you want but they can actually sell millions of their singles something that kpop cant, so why so harsh? lol I love both jpop and kpop btw

[kakouma10]

no one is surprised ! suju have 13 members and there's a kpop boy band with more than 20 members too.. don't know their name

anyway ppl here are being calm and class :p

I love Jpop and Kpop ! but hate how kpop stars act ( except for some) they don't act modest in front of Jpop stars! while jpop stars always say that they are fans of kpop! like Achan is fan of BigBang or Perfume are fan of SNSD and 2NE1 and 2PM...

[windies]

i think the performance was awesome considering how cramped that stage was

[KazuuuX3]

It's OK we all know that AKB are too amazing that's why the public was all calm & enjoying their performance :) Joking :P But I do think that this performance is great! The public is probably just surprised by the number of members & the performance is awkward because the stage is not big enough for all the girls :( but yeah the still did so well! They all look really good! Love them<3

I wish the public gave a better response though ^^"

Here a better perf: watch?v=yZym1DDgds4

So amazing *o*!!!

[AceSeno]

that was really an awkward performance... kinda can feel the atmosphere O.O

[mserikatodoh]

Akb48 were great!!!! Taecyeon counting them Lol

[CaptianFresh]

Was that KARA's Nicole who was laughing lol?!

[nobodynosejeebus]

wow that was really awkward

[Blueknightex]

This was 2 years ago right? Omg they all look so young back then and now they are mostly 17-20. Time flies by so fast...

[kpopshawol]

AKB48 and the offshoots are only so popular right now because it's a novelty and Japan LOVES novelty... and there's a lot of perverted ojisan type who like fantasizing about them.XD(not hating, just truth! was same momusu) I like AKB48 when they do songs like River, but when they start going Heavy Rotation it's just... Yeah. >.>;;

There's good Jpop, and there's good Kpop, just like there's bad Jpop and bad Kpop. I don't see why people argue about it so much. One isn't better than the other. :s

[MistyDelusions]

@kpopshawol Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and when people start disagreeing with their opinions and adding unnecessary commentary/variables, arguments arise that's why even the simplest things are debated on. Not every disagreement can turn into an argument though if both sides have the personalities to deal with it in good manner. Some tend to go for the "boom" button immediately especially when it comes to defending a certain fandom. Know what I mean?

[MistyDelusions]

Dang it. Their performance is awkward because the stage is so dang small. Look at this video w w w.youtube. c o m/watch?v=4beAPYGn1Qg and compare that with this. There's a difference, right? And besides, the camerawork for this video isn't that nice.

Seriously, if you're not into Japanese music, you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff. Continue to live in your world of popsy overly colorful non-sensical music if you want to.

[kpopshawol]

@MistyDelusions LOL ummm.... Jpop is the king/queen of popsy overly colorful non-sensical music, so not sure what you're referring to. :p

[MistyDelusions]

@kpopshawol Your opinion, I can respect that.

[kpopshawol]

@MistyDelusions not my opinion, it's just the fact. Japan has the most over the top, colorful, cutesy music than any other country. It's what makes Jpop unique. :)

[MurakumoChan]

@MistyDelusions I have been into Jmusic since what.. 2005? And their music is way WAY more "popsy overly colorful and non-sensical-". I don't like Jpop that much, they do have living legends there, but I prefer Jrock way more.

In any case, Korea and Japan's culture is different, the people and their liking are different, while Korea is uptight and strict, Japan has more freedom in their music and how they express it. We can't just.. compare them.

[MistyDelusions]

@MurakumoChan Hi. About my comment, I did mention Japanese music - I was referring to both Jpop and Jrock. I love both and no, I still do not think J-music is popsy overly colorful and non-sensical even though I've been listening to Japanese music for over 7 years as well.

I wonder though what gave you the idea that I was referring to Korean music in my second statement? I suppose that's what first popped into your head when the words "popsy overly colorful and non-sensical" are used, yes?

[MurakumoChan]

@MistyDelusions No, you didn't. But that's what this eh.. conversation? is; the argueable point. If you say that you weren't referring to it, then I rest my case, you could change your mind and talk about metal later.

There's a reason why Japanese market is the second largest in the world, they have a lot of variety, and no one can deny that Bubblegum Pop is very loved there (let's admit it, japanese general public has really interesting tastes xD), it's trend and they LOVE trends.

[zesshi]

all the haters here are just pressed their oppars and unnies can never sell as much as them.

[Alice16uy]

AKB48！

あっちゃん〜

stop being rude to Jpop.

show some respect.

These girls can sell 1 million CDs in ONE day.

Your fav oppa should be learning from them.

[frejafan]

@Alice16uy lol, because they are very popular among perverted men it means they are better? AKB48 is the perfect example of popularity that has nothing to do with talent or quality.

[jessiejanesama]

@frejafan lol is that what you think? they actually have female fans. from kids to grandma. you can't spout nonsense stuff if you don't actually "know" them.

[muathuytinh21]

@Alice16uy more than that!!! AKB is such an amazing girl group!

[haleyjellygirl]

@Alice16uy :D Ha ha! Ur cool!! In ur face haters!! LOL!

[Minsuh]

I could never imagine they'd become an ultra super idol group that sells 1 million CDs in one day back then.

They've worked so hard and now they are one of the biggest names in Japanese entertainment history.

I loved these girls.

[love2CUsmile86]

Let me say this. Korean artists are trying to break into the Japanese music market. The artist that they should be looking out is AKB48. They are very popular in Japan right now. AKB48 may be unknown in Korea but they are somebody in Japan.

[sako0112]

二コルひどいな

笑うの我慢してほしかった

[x1Edgex]

Just buy some instrument music and see how many good lyric you can write

most music sound the same withe different lyric, it could be the same company music selling it of to different company

[TheFatina412]

watanabe mayu so kawaii^^

[mickylove64]

RIVERのパフォーマンス見て、それまで、AKBを「どうせオ­タクのアイドルでしょ」って見下してたのを、本人たちに謝りたい­くらいになった。こんなに踊れることにびっくりした。それから、­握手会に行って、今では大ファンです。こじはる推しの♀です。

[yuki0snowman]

オーディエンス最悪ｗ

1:24の女は誰だ!??この口裂け女が!!

[Perfume531]

世界的にAKB48はモーニング娘のパクりだと思われてるみたい­だからね。こういう反応はしょうがない。

[AliyahKaulitz]

Lol xD I think Taecyeon was trying to count the girls haha x)

Poor girls, that stage was too small -.-

[sinsbstyle]

AKB48~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



[enzktl1]

忙しくて、見てなかったんじゃないのかな

[xXAsumaXx]

oooh that stage is to small for them lol.

[SilfarionSky]

@xXAsumaXx LOOOL SO TRUE

[chinleeradcliffe]

THey all have the TOp 8 Girls here.. I wish they performed in Bigger Stage, why so small? They Look small but they also have a lot of TAll members. I hope they'll be in larger stage next time they perform in Korea. Of Course, with all the Senbatsu girls too.

[messi7japan]

漢字　訂正

感じ

[messi7japan]

akbって身近な漢字がしていいよなー☆　てか　格下な感じで見られてるｗ　

[Ruhena96]

that woman can't pronounce the T in 48

[jjp2436]

Ew....what the..

[berryholic]

why stage too small? - -

[thethirdbirthday]

lmfao the kpop guys are like:

why the fuuck are they so short and WTF is this.

[aazzar]

@thethirdbirthday O.O short?

actually this is really like a stereotype in akb, when i first saw them i thought too that they are small.

but now, as i became a fan of them. LOTS of them are tall. it's just that japanese likes cute people. and cute often means you're small PLUS only sometimes that they wear shoes with heels.. so bunch of shorties/cute are in the front girls.

BUT, mariko, sae, nyan-nyan, etc are tall. almost model-alike.

even taller than most of snsd.

[thethirdbirthday]

@aazzar thx for the info :)

[thethirdbirthday]

LOL KOREANS...... WTF?! LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[powerkillerz]

11 ppl only :(

[RataFucker]

lmao the audience is like wtf is this??

[evachan4106]

a poor girls they were prolly worried about falling off the stage =_=

[syucreate]

韓国の方がエンタメのレベルが高いんで・・見てて・・ちょっとつ­らいよね。韓国のアイドルがAKB48に対して無表情ってのが・­・・・何とも象徴的だ。

[huayu123]

its amazing how they could make do with such a small stage, but it's kinda inconsiderate of the producer to not provide a larger stage....

[dbzhwhgdk]

at that time, i saw this stage on korean tv, actually koreans didn't know akb48 and akb48's stage was defferent with korean idol's stage. but akb48 is gragurlly known nowdays i hope they will be a very famous musicion in korea

[KazuuuX3]

I know I already commented here ^^ But I LOVE this performance! Also if someone dislike them, then please don't watch the video!! :D AKB<3

[BlaqMach]

this is the first time i've ever seen an AKB48 performance, it's different. I can see why they'd be very popular in japan!!!

[chinchin138]

this is the best song of AKB48(for me) but the stage is too small -*- and i dont like camera

[akicha22]

ニコル爆笑wwww



[aremute]

Erepyon looks cute there. 

[asiansarahx]

Poor AKB... the stage is way too small for them and they look extremely squished. :\ why isn't the stage bigger?

[Lerlialen1]

Holy shit. Imagining trying to split the paycheck between this many people?

[TheCypherxz]

@Lerlialen1 they earn more than what you think. This AKB48 earn BILLIONS. spliting paycheck among them is nothing.

[kibi3892]

They have front girl : Yuko , Kojima , Acchan , Takamina , Mariko , Tomomi ...I wonder why not let them perform at the main stage . I mean the stage where MC introduced AKB ? ... I really don' t feel happy . Like they don' t care Akb , look at the face Khun ( 2pm) I see no fun...

[Cori13131]

i'm just wondering,why do some Kpop Freak Fan,when ever they came to Jpop,they keep bashing about how lame was Jpop like the song,dance,outfit and everything but when Jpop Freak Fan come to Kpop,i never really saw them bashing bout Kpop! and i never really see Japanese bashing bout Korean music instead they love Korean music! sometime i thing that Korean Fan being Rasict more than Japanese Fan and i'm truly am sorry if i hurt anyone feeling but it's a Real-Fact :/ at least that what i think.

[MsYuriring]

@Cori13131 I am sorry but i didn't see much kpop fans bashing jpop or being racist instead i see more japanese bashing kpop and koreans in general i think that's more racist. It's just they write in japanese that you don't understand and you think they are open-minded but actually not..-_-

[Cori13131]

@MsYuriring i'm sorry too but i think u wrong as well..i can read Japanese that why i understand what they saying..in Japan,there quite some fans of Kpop and Korea so i don't think they have anything bad to say bout em'. and if u look at some of Jpop idol music vid there a quite some racist saying them! it just my opinion so i hope u don't have to mad.

[MsYuriring]

@Cori13131 Of coursebecause they are fans of korea & k- culture and i was talking about japanese in general

if you understand japanese go look at other japanese idol groups vids like perfume

where you can find japanese writing rude things about koreans and kpop and comparing with their idols (saying that theirs are the best) maybe you have seen some rude comments but comparing to japanse,it's nothing. I just wanted you to know the truth. Peace :)

[FireofScorpion]

@Cori13131

I agree with you.

I'm very sad and mad. k-pop freak fan attack j-pop.

but they say "j-pop fan are racist" in english.

and many of japanese can't talk english.

we can't counterargument.

my english is poor too. I'm sad...

[Cori13131]

@FireofScorpion yeah! just ignore them! that why we call them Kpop Freak Fan! (well..some of them) they just think that just because Kpop are much more Popular now they can make fun of J music! and don't worry bout ur English,i have a poor English too :)

[FireofScorpion]

@Cori13131

thank you. Your comment encouraged me greatly :)

[Cori13131]

@FireofScorpion oh! LOL it's nothing..i just tell what i have in my mind and you welcome :D

[marmarisbacc2]

it really was an awkward performance for them. I love akb48 they are such a unique group of females. My bias is Akimoto Sayaka. funny thing I felt watching this video was that the kpop groups watching 2PM, KARA, MBLAQ, 4 Minute so forth ventured in Japan &they see that AKB48 is BIG in their country. KARA becomes good friends with them. It's nice to see the reverse of things.

[ThePrettyasiangirl]

that scence is more for small groups like snsd and shinee and so on... akb48 is 16

[limeilovexxx]

HEY j-pop fans stop bashing k-pop! & k-pop fans stop bashing j-pop! both types of music are unique and great in their OWN way! I personally love both j-pop & k-pop (: So can't we all just get along and watch this awesome video?? :D

[strawberrybankai12]

@limeilovexxx yuor comment made me think of martin luther king

[wawa2pm]

saw taec pointing to count the girls lol..

[KazuuuX3]

AKB48 ^^ I love this live performance even if they had better performances than this!

[VitaminC48]

the applause they are too small for AKB48

[vulinh1991]

@syutexi Are you a fan Kpop?

I love Japanese music and Japanese music degree higher

[vulinh1991]

@syutexi

Are u a Fan Kpop?

I love Japanese music

[vulinh1991]

@syutexi

Are u a Fan Kpop?

I love Japanese music

[vulinh1991]

I love AKB48!

AKB48 cute and feisty

[syutexi]

Does not match the dance.

Come out the way I came to see the way K-POP artist.lol

Japanese idol is still a low level.

[Freedom007Freedom]

@syutexi - " Does not match the dance" really???!!!, so u want them to make a ' butt dance' like most of kpop??? Lol, AGAIN I FOUND some of kpop fans BASHING Jpop juz cuz of ' dance' . Yea, maybe their dance so boring and not as cool as kpop but their music & lyrics r amazing!!! Japan idol dont really care about the ' dance' thingy dude and what for if the DANCE SO COOL BUT THE SONG IS SOOOO BORING & LAME!

[vulinh1991]

@syutexi You should learn more about Japanese music

[vulinh1991]

@syutexi Are you a fan Kpop?

I love Japanese music. Japanese music degree higher

[VitaminC48]

@syutexi What??

Are you a fan Kpop? I love Japanese music.

I don't think what you say is true

[asiansarahx]

@syutexi And yet they're making so much more money than Kpop idols, lololololololol

[takeovertarget01]

やっぱ日本人てかわいいな

[takeovertarget01]

かわいい

[octobunny]

go tomochin!

[kibi3892]

at 0:35 the girl looks so cute , tell me what's her name? thanks

[chubachoc]

@kibi3892 kojima haruna nickname kojiharu or nyan nyan

[thunderstormabbi]

they look a bit awkward performing probs coz its a smaller stage and there missing people. still good though

[Emenon1]

the stage is a bit small and they're missing some people