The Vertigo 'shot' did not have a human character as the focal point of the shot. The Vertigo 'shot' was simply an FX shot trying to show the dizziness of vertigo.
You are mistaking camera 'technique' for 'shot'.
The 'shot' is on Roy Scheider's face. Vertigo didn't have that.
@LaughingGravy31 Except you didn't actually explain the difference between technique and shot. You even called the Vertigo effect as an FX shot while saying that it wasn't a shot.
It's not the 'same shot' as Jaws. That's what I said.
The Vertigo shot is still a shot, just not the 'same shot' as Jaws.
In Jaws the 'shot' is the dolly zoom focusing on Chief Brody's face. It's not a dolly zoom focusing in on the dizzy height looking down with no human actors in the shot.
The camera 'technique' has a correlation, but the actual composition of shot and placement of the actor in the shot doesn't.
@LaughingGravy31 In the Vertigo shot, the focal point is the ground below the stairs. In the Jaws shot, the focal point is the guy's face. What's the difference?
@LaughingGravy31 The shot compositions are basically the same, except that in the Vertigo shot the focal point appears to be moving away while in the Jaws shot the focal point appears to be moving closer. Also, the focal point in the Jaws shot is a person, but the focal point in the Vertigo shot is the ground below. How can "dizzy height" be a focal point? The intention of the shots are also the same. They both convey intense anxiety. Do you have any friends at all, Napoleon Dynamite?
You're hilarious. You have no clue what the hell you are talking about.
The purpose of the Vertigo shot is to show, well, VERTIGO and James Stewart's perspective looking down from a dizzy height. The focal point in the Vertigo shot is the dizzy height from Stewart's viewpoint.
The focal point in the Jaws shot is not chief Brody's 'perspective' but actually chief Brody HIMSELF.
If the Kintner boy being killed on the raft was the focal point it would be similar, but it ISN'T.
I love this shot. The way it zooms into Brody as he realises he forgot to put clean underpant on.
SpamOfTheSpammer 1 month ago 2
its called a "zolly"
NearyStudios 4 months ago
Vertigo shot
SunburntBrownie 5 months ago
@SunburntBrownie
This is NOT the Vertigo 'shot'.
The Vertigo 'shot' did not have a human character as the focal point of the shot. The Vertigo 'shot' was simply an FX shot trying to show the dizziness of vertigo.
You are mistaking camera 'technique' for 'shot'.
The 'shot' is on Roy Scheider's face. Vertigo didn't have that.
LaughingGravy31 3 months ago
@LaughingGravy31 calm.
SunburntBrownie 3 months ago
@SunburntBrownie
Nothing wrong in pointing out the difference between camera technique and 'shot'.
LaughingGravy31 3 months ago
@LaughingGravy31 Except you didn't actually explain the difference between technique and shot. You even called the Vertigo effect as an FX shot while saying that it wasn't a shot.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
It's not the 'same shot' as Jaws. That's what I said.
The Vertigo shot is still a shot, just not the 'same shot' as Jaws.
In Jaws the 'shot' is the dolly zoom focusing on Chief Brody's face. It's not a dolly zoom focusing in on the dizzy height looking down with no human actors in the shot.
The camera 'technique' has a correlation, but the actual composition of shot and placement of the actor in the shot doesn't.
Get it now?
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
@LaughingGravy31 In the Vertigo shot, the focal point is the ground below the stairs. In the Jaws shot, the focal point is the guy's face. What's the difference?
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
Are you serious?
What is the difference? Why are you even asking that? The difference is obvious.
The difference is shot composition and intention of shot.
Vertigo doesn't even have a ACTOR in the dolly zoom shot and it's a FX shot to show dizzyness. The focal po pint is the dizzy height.
The Jaws shot has an actor as the focal point of the shot and the purpose is to show shock and stunned awe with the chief in his own vacuum.
The shots are COMPLETELY different.
Sheesh!
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
@LaughingGravy31 The shot compositions are basically the same, except that in the Vertigo shot the focal point appears to be moving away while in the Jaws shot the focal point appears to be moving closer. Also, the focal point in the Jaws shot is a person, but the focal point in the Vertigo shot is the ground below. How can "dizzy height" be a focal point? The intention of the shots are also the same. They both convey intense anxiety. Do you have any friends at all, Napoleon Dynamite?
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
You're hilarious. You have no clue what the hell you are talking about.
The purpose of the Vertigo shot is to show, well, VERTIGO and James Stewart's perspective looking down from a dizzy height. The focal point in the Vertigo shot is the dizzy height from Stewart's viewpoint.
The focal point in the Jaws shot is not chief Brody's 'perspective' but actually chief Brody HIMSELF.
If the Kintner boy being killed on the raft was the focal point it would be similar, but it ISN'T.
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
@LaughingGravy31 Stop acting like you know what you're talking about. You don't even know what a focal point is, for god's sake.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
Course I fucking do.
In Jaws chief Brody is the focal point.
In Vertigo it's the ground.
Doh!
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
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@KayBeeEee1983
""Do you have any friends at all, Napoleon Dynamite?""
Yes and none of them are as idiotic as you. You can't even construct an argument properly.
You don't know what a 'shot' is.
Too funny.
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
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LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
""The shot compositions are basically the same,""
Laugh my ass off.
In Jaws the 'shot composition' features two people in the centre of the frame. Chief Brody with his wife standing behind him.
In Vertigo the 'shot composition' doesn't even involve any human actors you dopey idiotic moron.
You don't even know what 'composition' is.
Hilarious.
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
@LaughingGravy31 you sound like an asshole
elitestar 1 month ago
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@elitestar
""you sound like an asshole""
No, an asshole is somebody who makes a post calling somebody else an asshole and does nothing else apart from that.
I'm very clever and brilliant. You should love me.
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
THE perfect example of the dolly zoom ever seen on film. It's used to it's greatest and most famous effect here.
LaughingGravy31 7 months ago
@LaughingGravy31 Well, there's also the tower scene in Alfred Hitchcock's "Vertigo".
minamu8 3 months ago
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@minamu8
""Well, there's also the tower scene in Alfred Hitchcock's "Vertigo".""
But this is better and more famous.
LaughingGravy31 3 months ago