The Special Jury for Traitors at Ioannina, legally and internationally recognized, issued more than 1.700 condemnatory verdicts against Tsams criminals until 1948. The most notable among those being the verdict No. 344/23-5-1945, thus tragically narrating their proven outrageous actions.
Other verdicts followed, such as No. 50862/47 by the Ministry of Defense, according to which the Tsams were to be deprived of their Greek Nationality, as well as one the one that decided the confiscation
during the withdrawal of occupying forces, after a four-year occupation, ZERVAS WARNED CHAMS that: "those who have cooperated with the occupiers and have committed crimes at the expense of Greeks, will be tried by exceptional military tribunals, which will be established on the spot and will try the real war criminals τσάμηδες". Those have feared reprisals and left alone to Albania. Thus, together with the culprits fled and non-guilty.
On April 7, 1939, Italian troops invaded and occupied Albania forcing the Albanian ruler King Zog I Ahmed Bey Zogu, to flee to Greece. Italy formally annexed into the Kingdom of Italy under the Italian king Victor Immanuel and established a military government and viceroy. The Italian began a program to colonize the country when thousands of settlers emigrated to Albania. An Albanian Fascist Party was established with Albanian Black skirts based on Italian models
συνεχιζω τον παλιο καιρο ηταν ψωμοτυρι για τις πολεις να εχουν εμφυλιο πολεμο μεταχυ τους.
οπως σπαρτη με Αθηνα ειχαν μεταχυ τους 30 χρονια πολεμο...Τι παει να πει αυτο οτι δεν ηταν Ελληνες....παλια η σημερα?το ιδιο εγινε και με τους Μακες στην χαιρωνια μιλιμενα με την ηγεσια της Αθηνας να τους θυσιασουν. Οποτε διλαδη δεν ηταν Ελληνες....?
καταληγω λοιπον :OTI ΚΕΡΔΙΣΑΜΕ ΠΑΛΑΙΑ ΤΟ ΚΕΡΔΙΣΑΜΕ ΚΑΙ ΟΤΙ ΧΑΣΑΜΕ ΤΟ ΧΑΣΑΜΕ./
Τιμη και δοξα σε ολους εκεινους παλληκαρια και γυναικες της Αρβανιτιας,Μπουμπουλινα ,Μαρκο Μποτσαρη,Καραισκακη,Γιαννη Γκουρα,και τοσοι αλλοι που επεσαν στις μαχες για την ελευθερια και στο ονομα της Αιωνιας Ελλαδας.
πριν 2500 χρονια στα βαλκανια δεν υπηρχε ονομα,αλβ ανια,βουλγαρια,σερβια,σκοπια,.
Υπηρχε Αθηνα,σπαρτη,Μακες,βοιωτια,κορινθιοι,αργος,Ιονια τροια,Ιλλυρια,Μολοσσοι ,κατω ιταλια ρασινοι ολοι Παιδια του Δια Ζευς ,πελασγοι απ τους πρωτους οπως Αχαιοι,Δωριεις,Αιολεις,Ιωνες.
Ο μεγάλος αριθμός των σλαβικών τοπικών ονομασιών στην Αλβανία, ακόμη και σε περιοχές όπου δεν υπάρχει ίχνος του πληθυσμού Σλαβικών υφίσταται, φέρει μαρτυρία για την εκτεταμένη Servian και της Βουλγαρίας μεταναστεύσεις στις αρχές του Μεσαίωνα, αλλά οι αρχικοί κάτοικοι σταδιακά εκτόπισε ή εξομοιούμενα τους εισβολείς. The determination with which this remarkable race has maintained its mountain stronghold through a long series of ages has hitherto met with scant appreciation in the outside world.
oi eleines einai h pio gamimeni fara ston kosmo......tous ezisa apo konta epi 17 xronia.....mono tis gynekes tis exoune orees giati oi manes tous exoune gamithh me alvavous to 1944-1945 otan oi eleines pigane ston polemo......halali tous
@unfukkkmee re kargioli,tis poutanas yos,den kseris oti o Ali Pasas eihe gamisi tote oles tis ginekes tis periohis tis Thesprotias,giafto kai eisaste tsadismeni me emas,apo tin mia meria lipame gia ton thimo sas ala apo tin ali herome giati apodihnete st'alithia oti ehete alvaniko ema mesa sas....hahahahahahahahaha alvanakia mikra eisaste ala den to paradeheste....yooi ton poutanoa ala apo paterades palikaria tis Alvanias
@djalexman πρωτον ο αλη πασας επερνε γυναικες μονο απο αλβανια και τουρκια ανιστοριτε, και δευτερον ο αλη πασας το πολυ 5 με 10 γυναικες ειχε. αλλα οι υπολοιποι ελληνες γαμουσανε ολες της αλβανιδες, μια και οι αλβανοι ηταν γκει, ψαχνανε να γαμηθουν με τουρκους. για αυτο στην νοτια αλβανια ειστε οι περισσοτεροι μελαχρινοι, εισαστε μπασταρδακια τουρκων και ελληνων. ενω στα βορεια εισαστε ξανθοι και γαλανοματηδες. εισαστε τουρκο-ελληνακια......
@phalanga1821xixixi,m'ekanes kai gelasa re malaka,oti ehete erthi apo tin Asia to kseroume poli kala giati to dihni kai to derma sas re mbastardi,alla afto gia ton Ali Pasa den to eho ksanakousi,ksero kalla apo ta epitheta pou sas evale o ali pasas omos,giafo eisaste tsandismeni me mas,na sou doso merika paradigmata apo tous epithetous pou sas evale o Ali pasas kai na sou ta metafraso kai sta eleinika ti simeni:
@phalanga1821 ase tis malakies re pondie,les na einai tiheo afto to onoma,kai ta ala onomata omos,den mas edoses paradigmata,ala kseris kai si poli kala ti simaini,oi eleines einai mongoli kai den me mpori na me pisi kanis gia to antitheto...katevikate apo psila re malakes apo tin asia kai tora thelete kai voria ipiro,kserate kai eki stin mingolia ti simeni afti i leksi...oust apo do re,afi i gi aniki se emas...ala pou tha pai,tha doume pos tha trehsoune ta gegonota...i ora tis Tsamourias eftase
@djalexman δεν θυμαμαι να υπηρχε ενα μερος στην ασια να λεγοτανε ελλαδα. αλλα θυμαμαι ενα μερος στην ασια που λεγοτανε.....ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ. εχεις να πεις κατι? παλαιοανθρωπολογικες ερευνες απδειξαν οτι ειμαστε μεσογειακος τυπος, σημαινει οπως οι αρχαιοι ελληνες. και στην αλβανια αποδεικνυεται οτι στην βορεια ηπειρο υπαρχει κυριαρχει το μεσογειακο κρανιο ενω πανω απο την βορεια ηπειρο γινεται της πουτανας. διναρικο κρανιο(γνησιο αλβανικο), μεσογειακο, αρμενοειδης( συγγενεις με αραβες και τουρκους.....
@phalanga1821 ase tis malakies tora kai sovarepsou....ehete tipota nisia na poulisete giati akousa stis eidisis oti pouliounte 498 nisia,mporis na mpis endiamesa kai si na vrouma kanena giati endiaferete enes filos mou edo stin Germania....den sou kano plaka.....ohi poli megalo,3-4 km tetragonika,tha vgi kati kai gia esena...mou eipe aftos oti meta afou ftiaksi tin villa tou eki.... tha hriasti kapion gia na katharisi ton vothro...
kai mou perase apo to mialo oto eisai kalos..skepsou to kai pes
@djalexman και δευτερον εμεις δεν συνεργαστικαμε με τουρκους οπως εσεις. σας γαμησανε τις γυναικες και γινατε μουσουλαμονοι. γαμησαμε και εμεις ενα μικρο κομματι και αυτο το μικορ κομματι εγινε ορθοδοξο. και μας μιλας ρε? μια ζωη τσιρακια εισασταν. τουρκαι και ελλαδα ηταν τσιρακια των μεγαλων δυναμεων, εσεις ομως εισασταν τα τσιρακια απο τα τσιρακια ακομα χειροτερα. για αυτο παρε τον μπουλο απο τον μπαουλο και τραβα στην αλβανια. θα σε ελεγα πανε στο διαλο αλλα πανε στην αλβανια ειναι χειροτερο
@djalexman και τριτον, ειναι η τελευταια φορα που θα μιλσω μαζι μου. δεν θα ασχοληθω με εναν πιθηκο σαν και εσενα. για τι εγω δουλευω. εργαζομαι. που και που γαμαω καμια αλβανιδα για 3 ευρω(μην ξεχνας εχουμε και οικονομικη κριση ;) δουλευω και εργαζομαι, δεν ληστευω και σκοτωνω για 15 ευρω οπως εσεις. και που σαι, ακουσα στην κρητη ψαχνουνε δουλους να μαζεψουνε πορτοκαλια. ξερεις εσυ. συνηθησμενος. ;)
@phalanga1821 esi plironis 3 evro re malaka,eno ego pino mpires kai gamao elinides tsampa edo stin Baden-Württemberg ...Stuttgart,iparhoune kai edo poles elinides....orees kai melanhrines...pou kseris mpori na einai kai kapia ksaderfi i aderfi sou re poustra...me aftin tin pina pou ehete tora esis,ehete pari tous dromous tis gis....poustra re poustra....kai mi mou zalizis pia ta arhidia giati nistazo...kai apantise grigora,den kseris na grafis i den kseris na skeftese malaka,ta ehis peksi vlepo
They were given the opportunity to show their vicious hatred against Greece by the proclamation of the Greek-Italian War. they joined the Italian army organizing two Battalions of their own, and along with fifteen more Albanian Battalions consisting of 15.000 men, they entered Sagada and Filiates, as mercenary allies of the Italians. others who were serving in the Greek army– ”. After the lines had been broken down, the Italians handed over Thesprotia to the mercy of the Tsams.
@IllyrianLion 1st of all i didnt say that the albanian SS division operated in greece. I said that the albanians who were living in greece they cooperated with the Nazi's against Greek People. The result of this was the death penalty verdict for Ultimate Treason because those people are considered greek citizens.
As for the serbs they are just waiting for NATO to fall. And its going to happen sooner than u imagine!
Κατά την αποχώρηση των κατακτητών, μετά από τετραετή κατοχή, ο Ζέρβας διεμήνυσε στους Τσάμηδες ότι: «Όσοι έχουν συνεργασθεί με τους κατακτητές και έχουν διαπράξει εγκλήματα εις βάρος των Ελλήνων, θα δικαστούν από έκτακτα Στρατοδικεία, τα οποία θα συγκροτηθούν επιτόπου και θα δικάσουν τους πραγματικούς εγκληματίες πολέμου Τσάμηδες». Εκείνοι φοβήθηκαν τυχόν αντίποινα και απεχώρησαν μόνοι τους στην Αλβανία. Έτσι μαζί με τους ενόχους έφυγαν και οι μη ένοχοι.
@IllyrianLion At 1948 3000 Albanians were judged to the death penalty for ultimate treason. Albanians were killing the true natives of Ipiros and they cooperated with the Nazi's. If u study history the 21st SS division was named Skatenberg and it was maned by albanians. You have to know one thing. You will never be Greek and u will never see the albanian flag on the holy grounds of Ipiros. The Serbs are waiting for their chance and we are waiting for that. U will be slaughtered to oblivion!
19 of 20 villages in northern epirus were greek! the fascism of the poor-minded albanias and their collaborations with the devil destroyed our northern epirus.
inside albania thousands and thousands greeks still live by their greek customs and language.
in southern epirus after the nazis left the land,the chams fearing the greek revenge for the murder of greek civilians wich they commited left epirus for ever.
@andytsa why dont you fuck with Germans to,.only few cham lords colaborated w nazis, not all the innocent chami. population,.Genocide its what the Zerva army did,.we still alive we will take our properties back,..long live Chameria
our epirus greeks still want revenge for your rape and murder u chams did in Paramythia.albanians always and always were under the Greeks.simple and true..
@picari2008 You have NO properties and u will never have in Ipiros. Trust me if u try coming there u will have the same fortune with the Italians and some albanian battalions 70 years ago.
all that During October 1943-April 1944, the Albanian collaborationist organization Balli Kombëtar with support of Nazi German officers mounted a major offensive in Northern Epirus against greek civilians.....even in the english version of wiki speaks the truth!
The results were devastating. During this period over 200 Greek populated towns and villages were burned or destroyed, 2,000 Northern Epirotes were killed, 5,000 imprisoned and 2,000 taken hostages to concentration camps. Moreover, 15,000 homes, schools and churches were destroyed. Thirty thousand people had to find refuge in Greece
Oj Merisss20 , oj karaputane te qifshin Çameria , Laberia dhe Matjanet librin e shtepise me te gjalle e me te vdekur. O te qifshin qente rracen e kurves .
Ju e doni si kurvat t'ju rrahesh e t'ju qish tre here ne dite para dhe pas buke.
RROFTE SHQIPERIA ETNIKE
RROFTE ÇAMERIA , LABERIA ,KOSOVA DHE GJITHE SHQIPTARET KUDO QOFSHIN
ROBT KURVAVE TE TIPIT MERISSS20,KORCAGIAPANTA,MrAmilios E GJITHE KURVAVE TE TJERA GREKE E PSEUDOGREKE.
Minorities in Greece like Macedonins,Vllachs,Arvanitas,Pomaks,Turkish,Jews and Cham Orthodox and Muslims together will burn your stinky shithole to the ground.......We will destroy You becuse we have been your masters and gay greeks were Chams servants.Greek scommitted genocide.thier gay greek church is responsible they are our enemies.
pinnaclesupclose. When i have a large greek minority in the southern region of my country i dont spread such vile lies. Ok? Epirus is greek comprised of ancient Xeones, Molosoi, greek tribes. Greeks were politically divided. Do me the favor stupid albanian ignorant wanker and do some reading. Dont eat UCK PROPAGANDAstupid fuck. Ok? and dont be ungrateful. Apreciate the help you have received.
the first to be appreciative of help received should be greece! 65+ years of massive subsidies and support from the U.S., NATO (who built your main highways and protects your nation with 4 military bases) and the EU, and still you are the poorest of the original EU member states. so relax bro and stop eating hyper-nationalist greek mousaka propaganda prepared especially for ignorant malakas by Vatopedi heroes.
Dear axment, the information that I posted earlier is found in any reputable european or american entity which specialises in ancient greek studies.
Even the Bible in the book of the Acts of the Apostles clearly makes a distinction betwen greeks and macedonians describing them as two deffernt ethnicities. (NIV,NKJ).
Yes my friend, these are facts that the whole learned world knows.
Do yur self a fawor and pull your head out of the sand.
To axment. Large greek minority!? Where did that come from? Certaily not reality. Albania is populatet 98% by albanians and 2% other, which includes the greek minority.
Perhaps it came from the extreme greek nationalism greed towards other peoples countrys.
Mate Stop watching wideos posted by this idiots who have no idea what they are talking about before they make you olso an idiot more than what they already have.
shut the hell up you gay greek and do some diggin' within the history books but not the "greek propaganda" ones and if you don't have let me know and I'll sent them to you so you can get educated....and one more thing just so you know if you're "white" it means that you have Arvanit(Albanian) origin and if you're "dark" skin it means that you have an "gipsy" origin converted to Greek....:0)
the word "epirus" means only "continent" and has no value as a place name.
only the word Çameria (Tsamouria) based on the ancient river "T'sam" has value as a place name, and ONLY the Albanians use this word.
can you do the math?
why don't you try separating religion & state like every other member of the EU and then recognize the Arvanite Albanian Christian Minority, as we recognize the Greek Minority (50 years) and allow schools in Arvanitik (Albanian).
Hahaha really??? Arvanites themshelves don't want to be considered minorities simply cause they feel the live and they die GREEKS!!!! So before u comment read the true facts no the Albania propaganda.....
you people are so brainwashed. you love to speak for the arvanites, what a joke.
look up arvanites, souliotes and albania on wikipedia to give you at least some small idea of how silly and racist is your point of view is.
also google Arvanites Helsinki Monitor to learn what an international team discovered while researching the topic in greece (no albanians or greeks on the team)
you people do not question authority very much, it is strange.
If u watch wikipedia Arvanites are in Groups of Greeks!!! Lol u havent pay attention so much.... So im gonna read this Elsinki thing but be aware.... Arvanites are usally located in Elefsina go tell them that they r Albanians they probably gonna stub you.... Lol
we're not talking about nationality, we are talking about culture. and you are wrong about arvanites, many of them are much more friendly to us in private, because they don't feel compelled to go with the crowd, as in public.
and the wiki story states very clearly that they originate from albania. as i said, nationality, having been confused with religion in recent times, is another story, more complicated.
Well as i said all Balkan cultures are influenced by Ottomans...The fact that Arvanites origin was Albanian doesn't mean anything my friend.... And yes religion is very important and can define peoples minds about nationality...
And we should not forget that Arvanites hated Albanians and slayed them without mercy...They considered themshelves Greeks simply cause French revolution and her ancient Greek ideals was spred and Arvanites lived in Greek lands had Greek friends they had the same religion so it was natural to consider themshelves Greeks
And it is also natural to feel a litle bit sympathy about you but cause they remebered their old costumes (in some ways). But don't fool yourshelves Arvanites will never suport the big Albania thing.....
you guys are so paranoid about the big albania thing, no one is talking about that. it's just about respect for the historical truths and ending the propaganda wars.
no, the arvanites did not slay other albanians "without mercy" as you say, that is absurd. orthodox and muslim albanians worked hand in hand to throw out the ottomans. don't forget that ali pasha was hated by Istanbul because he achieved such autonomy, which prepared the way for the souliotes, who eventually made peace with ali.
and of course the big joke: every orthodox = greek, reveals the deeper truth about your fragile and somewhat contrived modern identity.
and please spare us any references between modern greek culture and the french revolution. your nation has not even separated religion & state (the only EU member still operating in a medieval fashion). and there has been no Reform of any kind of orthodoxy, which is why Vatopedi can still operate with impunity and steal public lands for 1 euro.
U know historians do not consider peace when someone steal your lands kill your wariors and your women and childs throw themshelves from mountains.....This is what Arvanites of Souli did after Ali pasha betrayed truce.....And yes without mercy in Greek revolutionary war the bigest percent of Ottoman units were Albanians and Arvanites killed them cause they wanted to free their country....
you shouldn't meddle in what was obviously an entirely albanian affair, call it our own little civil war perhaps, though your claims are exaggerated as always for political purposes. and yes, at the end turkish forces killed ali, because ali and his christian brothers and sisters did make a truce.
the first language of your parliament was albanian & the first two presidents were albanian.
when the day comes you have the courage to teach that in your schools, we can sit back & enjoy the music.
Hhah u r so brainwashed as Americans hahah Albanian???? Our first parliment language was Albanian??? I assume u can prove it with letters or something like that....
no really, it's true. as you know, albanians were the dominant force in the greek revolution. it was natural that they were immediately present and numerous in the first parliament. there was a vote and the language chosen was greek, by a single vote.
check the archives, it's one of those little pieces of trivia that never make it to your text books, because it could hurt your feelings too much.
marko bocari's Albanian/Greek dictionary is on display in at the National Museum of Paris.
the greek govt attempted to cover up his origin by burning down the home of his father Noti Bocari.
a descendant of the Bocari clan, Professor Marko Bocari of the university of Queensland in Australia reacted fiercely in 1994 to the declaration of a greek congressman who denied the Albanian contribution in the Revolution of 1821 and Marko Bocari's Albanian origins. "My comments are related to a letter written by a greek minister who declared that there are no Albanians in Greece."
"It seems like the minister has no idea about what's happening in his own homeland, or he has deliberately decided to ignore the facts. It's a fact that in Greece live today more than 1 million orthodox Albanians. My parents have never spoken greek with me. they have exclusively spoken Albanian. because they were proud of their Albanian origins and heritage."
ultimately, you are the ones who are more severely brainwashed, because your cultural concept is one that requires an exclusive religious orientation, whereas ours is quite clear that all monotheistic religions were imposed on us and that our chief identity is the ancient, pre-monotheistic one that is contained our language. Arvanitik is referred to as "the old language" in your culture, there is a reason for that.
remember, there is no religious conflict in our country. all live in peace.
And there was no vote in parliament about our language.....U haven't read very well our modern history....Kapodistrias came and tryed to made some changes and then came our first Bavarian king....Our language would be Greek anyway cause al warlords felt Greeks.....
And r u still talking about religious tolerance in your country???Lol When u tryed t stop Greeks of North Epirus to worship their God and raise their flags???HAHA u r outranged!!!!!
I think this will hurt but u wanted.... The fact that all these Albanian tribes and sub-tribes setlled in Illiria they havent national consious they were only Sultun's subjects nothing more nothing less Albania became a country after Ottoman Empire's destruction and Italians made it hapen not even Albanians themshelves that prooves no National consiousnes something that Arvanites had but in a Greek way.....
U r trying t destabilize Greece with these pathetic arguments about how Albanians are modern Greek so u can take an advantage and steal lands from us....Your propaganda will eventually stop with one way or another.....
you are wrong in your paranoia. we are now part of nato and soon to be part of the eu. there is no ambition to change borders. personally, i believe greeks and albanians are two arms on the same body, but we are divided mostly by religion. your church has a historically non-progressive social outlook & has essentially hijacked the ancient greek identity which of course was entirely pagan, sitting atop Pelasgian Mythology & oral traditions.
democracy itself emerged to keep peace among pagans.
you speak of some imaginary violated rights of greeks in albania, this is completely false. the greek minority has been recognized for more than a half century and has had schools in their own language. in fact, the greek minority was closely aligned with dictator enver hoxha, so they had many benefits.
i don't know about this flag issue you are speaking of, but i can tell you that greece interferes directly in albanian affairs every day. most countries would never be as tolerant as we are.
our nationalism was not created by italians, you missed the beauty of our movement. it was formed by ottoman albanians, orthodox albanians, catholic albanians and italian albanians. because the italian population of albanians was permitted to live in peace for 800 years in italy, they were the strongest at the time and had protected many old documents and historical identifiers. it was natural that they would play a significant role.
remember something - and this will obliterate your arguments - the albanians of Italy, called Arberesh - were mostly from the Arvanite population of today's southern greece. because the italians did not discriminate against us, our language our culture and our identity from the middle ages remained intact.
it is the evidence of your oppressive culture, that Arvanites in greece still struggle to know who they are.
read Aristidh Kola, he was a greek arvanite published all over greece.
Your nationalism my friend is created by your politics all Albanians i know....But Italy was the first country who made Albania hapened cause they wanted a protectorate to Balkans..
But Orthodox Albanians??? Arvanites are not so confused my friend about their national consiousnes......
Yes the Arvanites considered in some ways Albanians but do not forget that Arvanites always had very close relations with the romioi or Greeks (in nowdays) they even had romanochristian names (Greek) and the best clans felt educated because they all spoke Greek......
All i want to say is that Arvanites may had Albanian origin but religion played signigicant role for their national consiousnes and in a time that the term Abanian nation didn't exist (Albanians were divided in tribes and dun-tribes) it was natural for them to become a big part of our history and be Greeks....
And i will say to all Orthodox haters like mr Aristides Kolas that modern Greece wouldn't reborn from the ashes if Orthodoxy wasn't the bigest percetage of Greece's populations...And yes i say it modern Greece is mixed as much as a European country can be (in diferent tribes and peoples) but all these populations united under clasical and hellenistic antiquity and now Greece is a stable and unite nation under one religion and one language!!!!! Have a nice day my friend....
you have very idealistic view of your nation, which is completely normal, i don't fault you for it. but i think you live in a comfortable way that separates you from the realities. that "unity" is a forced unity patrioti. your system is flawed in certain fundamental ways, the most obvious being the immense power of the religious class. whereas western europe went through various reformations & mostly secular states emerged, the eastern church has mostly resisted change & remains fundamentalist.
you make some good points about why many arvanites do have greek national consciousness, but you fail to realize that nationalism itself is fairly modern phenomenon & is certainly no the exclusive form of cultural identity of a people. language, culture, music, tradition, these are the most important characteristics of a people. nationalism is an attempt to profit from that culture and usually leads to very rigid interpretations of culture & history that most suit economic & political influence.
and you don't seem to have the courage to explore the question of whether the monotheistic mythologies of the middle east have been good for our region & cultural advancement or not.i think if you reflect, you cannot really escape the conclusion that since the imposition of foreign mythologies, our region has produced nothing but war.
aristidh kola has a lot to say as does Takis Michas. you should have the courage to transcend the group-think mentality that keeps you intellectually subordinate.
and allow me to point out one last glaring contradiction of your idealistic view of the modern state called greece:you state"modern Greece is mixed as much as a European country can be (in diferent tribes and peoples)", yet your nation is the only member of the EU to recognize NO minorities?! this suggests incredible, almost mythological godlike purity...
and let me also state the obvious fact that diversity in greece does not compare to London, Paris, Berlin, Rome & other cosmopolitan centers.
i often wonder where this amazing spirit of hellenism lurks in modern greece, when the delusions are so strong and the curiosity of the average citizen is so miniscule as to produce opinions such as yours (understanding as i do that you seem to have a good heart, but the knowledge level is strikingly narrow)
the essence of hellenism is to embrace the greatest ideas and bring them together, to innovate, to be open. today's greece has nothing to with hellenism, apart from the graveyard of art.
And the fragile identity thing is made up by Albanian propaganda....All Greeks nomater where they ome from and what their origin is Vlachs Arvanites Sarakatsani or even Greeks feel Greeks and bealive that their Greek past belong to them and there is no minority problem accept the Turks of Thrace of course...
And yes there is no problem with our religion our state works very well if it wasn't EU would never accept us....And churce if our politicians werent corupted wouldn't steal so it isnt our model of governance but corruption which leads to this chaos.... And who r u to judge Greeks u leave in mediaval period yet!!!! U r one of the poorest countrys in Europe and u talk????lol that's funny..
your confusion of religion & state is the reason that you know so little about us and why you generally have a negative orientation, because a conscious decision was made to pressure the arvanites to prove their greekness. the older generation knows this believe me.
as for the albanian system of today, it is terrible, i am definitely not here to defend it, although the younger generation is much better, so we hope for the best.
but don't brag too much patrioti, greece is still the poorest of the original EU members and this after 65+ years of massive subsidies from NATo, the u.s. and EU. and if you ask why greece was allowed into the EU, it's simple, all non-soviet nations were invited and greece was located in a strategic place. also, by bringing greece into the EU, your natural tendency to kiss mother russia's derriere, was at least somewhat muted, especially after NATO built your main highways and 4 military bases.
παλμο πρωτα εφαρμοσε το "παν μετρον αριστον" των αρχαιων ελληνων που τοσο αγαπας και χασε καμια 40 κιλα βουβαλακι και μετα να σ ακουσω, αλλα οχι πριν γοριλλα.
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bravo, kill5869, po ik e puno tashti, hajde boll bere si intelektual. ik e nxirr ndonje lek, pastaj hajde e shkruaj prape se ketu jemi. Ik a derzi se do edhe barku buke se per ca ke vajtur e ke shitur bythen tek greku. Po hajde prape e se nuk shtyhet youtubi pa muhabete kare si ato te tuat
ne luften e dyte, kur erdhen nacistat ne shqiperi, luftuan bashke minoritare dhe shqipetare, ju camet ishit spiunat e gjermanit, vrate e prete ke desheet, e harruat te verteten ta mesosh nga nje shqipetare, une jam shqipetare, qe them te verteten
minoritaret nuk tentuan te rrezonin qeverine shqipetare, por camet tentuan ta permbysnin qeverine shqipetare, qe shqipetari ju dha buke, por per nder nuk jua dini ju camet, shqiperia e shqipetareve,
te rroje miqesia greqi e shqiperi, te rrojne minoritaret vellezerit e shqipetareve
shqiperia eshte e shqipetareve, camet dhe kosovaret nuk kane toka ne shqiperi, dhe minoritaret tju hani mutin ju camet, shkoni ne greqi, do tju bej greku nje banket te bukur shkoni po jua mbajti bytha
@kill5869 O zagar.i Grekut,Ti nuk ke toke ne Shqiperi o hyzmetqar qe ke ardhur ne shqiperi kur nuk kishe buke te haje ne Mavroqi,.CAMET dhe vellezerit tane KOSOVARE jane ne tokat e tyre stergjyshore,qe ne kohen e Pellazgeve,.
o zagar i Hoxhes dhe Berishajanultos,qe te dhane tapine ty,qe jeton ne tokat e Bejlereve Shqipetare qe te strehuan dhe te ushqyen, qe shkerdhehesh per 150 euro,pension qe merr nga hajdutet e Evropes,
te gjithe qe bertisni, e shani minoritaret jeni te gjithe came, minoritaret ishin dhe jane ne tokat e tyre, ne traditat e tyre greke, kjo eshte e vertete, , po te doni tokat shkoni e luftoni me grekun e ti mirrni tokat, me minoritaret nuk keni püne ti shani, e ti ofendoj njeri, une mbroj te drejten e minoritareve, se e di historine, qe jane ne tokat e tyre !
cfare thua more patriot, pak minoritare ka ne shqiperi,ne shqiperi jane zonat e dropullit, delvina, himara 90 fshatrat e sarandes, jane zona minoritare, kupton apo jo, minoritaret nuk vrane ndonje shqipetare, por shqipetaret bene shume te keqia mbi popullsine minoritare, minoritaret jane ne tokat e tyre, greke, camet nuk kane toka ne shqiperi, pse pikerisht, mbas luftes dyte boterore, filloi, lufta midis grekeve dhe cameve, nuk me thua ? mos ofendo por kthe pergjigje, se une e di te verteten
3-qytetet sarande-delvine-konispol as 10 perqind e popullsise nuk qe greke.pra ne rethet e sarandes dhe delvines reth 30 perqind ishte greke.shqiperia nuk i fsheh dokumentat.ata qe ishin greker jane regjistruar ne gjendjen civile si grek,dhe nuk eshte abuzuar ne kete drejtim.kush flet te kunderten e kesaj qe po shkruaj ju genjen.cameria eshte tjeter ,ata kishin tokat e tyre ne cameri dhe jane zbuar me force.ska shenje barazimi ndermjet camerise dhe minoritetit jane 2[dy] tema te kunderta.
desha ti sqaroja keta greket se pretendojne per saranden dhe delvinen qe eshte greke.po ka greker ne sarande ose kishte deri me 1991doja te thosha se tani ka shume pak.ata grek qe jetonin ne sarande dhe delvine 1-nuk kishin toka me tapi ,ata ishin cifcinj ose bujkrober qe jetonin ne kasolle me kashte.kishat ishin ndertuar nga ata vete ne zonat ku jetoninpor dhe token e kishes kishin marre leje nga bejleret shqiptare per ndertimin e saj.2-ne sarande-delvine kishte 45 fshatra grek dhe 42 shqiptar
Exoume plourasismo kai dimokratia pou simainei oti OLOI mporoume na syneiparksoume. Oi syneidiseis tou kosmou allazoun siga siga. Afiste loipon ta ethnikistika, psyxropolemika minimata sti akri giati tha ksypnisete mesa mou tous arxaio-Ellinikous Molossious progonous mou kai auta pous sas ekane o Zervas tha oxriasoun mprosta se auta pou tha sas kano ego. Kai oute to NATO, oute oi Amerikanoi tha sas sosoun.
Den mporeite kyrioi anoixta kai aprokalipta na apaiteite ton akrotiriasmo tis Ellinikis Dimokratias epeisi eseis nomizete oti eiste apogonoi ton Illyrion! Sto kato-kato, ta synora ta anagnorizei kai i Alvaniki kyvernisi, etsi den einai?
Loipon gia na ksemperdeuoume: afiste tis ethikistikes malakies peri aneksartisias orismenon perioxon dioti apla askeite dianoitiko aunanismo. Ta synora den allazoun. Ypaxoun ethikes, koinonikes,kai politistikes omades oi opoies mporoun kallista na yparksoun entos ton yparxonton orion.
Ai-ya o Bulis.....thel na mas math ki'tn'istoria mas! Ay shire faei kana kokorets ki pies kania damzana krasi p'mois ena prukil pera san sfli. Mon y'afta fenet na xers kala.
Dioti emais stin Ellada (ektos ton psyxropolemikon anaxronikon fasiston typou Pleuri), kai i kyvernisi tis xoras, theoroume tin Ellinofoni meionotita tis B. Ipeirou san Ellinofonous ALVANOUS polites mesa stin YPARXOUSA Alvaniki ethniki ontotita opos auti diagrafetai apo ta yparxonta synora.
Diladi, me liga logia, vlepeis ton eauto sou san melos tis parousas Ellinikis ontotitas, me tis idiaitairotites sygegrikimenis kononikis/ethnikis omadas (minority) MESA sta plaisia tis YPARXOUSAS Ellinikis pragmatikotitas opos einai ORIOTHETIMENI (prosekse se parakalo tous irous pou xrisimopoio) sta YPARXONTA synora metaksy Elladas kai Alvanias, i vlepeis ton eauto san meros KAPOIAS ALLIS omadas EKTOS to simerinon orion?
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The Special Jury for Traitors at Ioannina, legally and internationally recognized, issued more than 1.700 condemnatory verdicts against Tsams criminals until 1948. The most notable among those being the verdict No. 344/23-5-1945, thus tragically narrating their proven outrageous actions.
Other verdicts followed, such as No. 50862/47 by the Ministry of Defense, according to which the Tsams were to be deprived of their Greek Nationality, as well as one the one that decided the confiscation
JIMY45GR 4 days ago
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during the withdrawal of occupying forces, after a four-year occupation, ZERVAS WARNED CHAMS that: "those who have cooperated with the occupiers and have committed crimes at the expense of Greeks, will be tried by exceptional military tribunals, which will be established on the spot and will try the real war criminals τσάμηδες". Those have feared reprisals and left alone to Albania. Thus, together with the culprits fled and non-guilty.
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On April 7, 1939, Italian troops invaded and occupied Albania forcing the Albanian ruler King Zog I Ahmed Bey Zogu, to flee to Greece. Italy formally annexed into the Kingdom of Italy under the Italian king Victor Immanuel and established a military government and viceroy. The Italian began a program to colonize the country when thousands of settlers emigrated to Albania. An Albanian Fascist Party was established with Albanian Black skirts based on Italian models
JIMY45GR 7 months ago
συνεχιζω τον παλιο καιρο ηταν ψωμοτυρι για τις πολεις να εχουν εμφυλιο πολεμο μεταχυ τους.
οπως σπαρτη με Αθηνα ειχαν μεταχυ τους 30 χρονια πολεμο...Τι παει να πει αυτο οτι δεν ηταν Ελληνες....παλια η σημερα?το ιδιο εγινε και με τους Μακες στην χαιρωνια μιλιμενα με την ηγεσια της Αθηνας να τους θυσιασουν. Οποτε διλαδη δεν ηταν Ελληνες....?
καταληγω λοιπον :OTI ΚΕΡΔΙΣΑΜΕ ΠΑΛΑΙΑ ΤΟ ΚΕΡΔΙΣΑΜΕ ΚΑΙ ΟΤΙ ΧΑΣΑΜΕ ΤΟ ΧΑΣΑΜΕ./
musikotherapia 11 months ago
Τιμη και δοξα σε ολους εκεινους παλληκαρια και γυναικες της Αρβανιτιας,Μπουμπουλινα ,Μαρκο Μποτσαρη,Καραισκακη,Γιαννη Γκουρα,και τοσοι αλλοι που επεσαν στις μαχες για την ελευθερια και στο ονομα της Αιωνιας Ελλαδας.
πριν 2500 χρονια στα βαλκανια δεν υπηρχε ονομα,αλβ ανια,βουλγαρια,σερβια,σκοπια,.
Υπηρχε Αθηνα,σπαρτη,Μακες,βοιωτια,κορινθιοι,αργος,Ιονια τροια,Ιλλυρια,Μολοσσοι ,κατω ιταλια ρασινοι ολοι Παιδια του Δια Ζευς ,πελασγοι απ τους πρωτους οπως Αχαιοι,Δωριεις,Αιολεις,Ιωνες.
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musikotherapia 11 months ago
@musikotherapia τους πελασγους ξεχασες αδερφε ;)
phalanga1821 10 months ago
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Ο μεγάλος αριθμός των σλαβικών τοπικών ονομασιών στην Αλβανία, ακόμη και σε περιοχές όπου δεν υπάρχει ίχνος του πληθυσμού Σλαβικών υφίσταται, φέρει μαρτυρία για την εκτεταμένη Servian και της Βουλγαρίας μεταναστεύσεις στις αρχές του Μεσαίωνα, αλλά οι αρχικοί κάτοικοι σταδιακά εκτόπισε ή εξομοιούμενα τους εισβολείς. The determination with which this remarkable race has maintained its mountain stronghold through a long series of ages has hitherto met with scant appreciation in the outside world.
JIMY45GR 11 months ago
Στης Ελλαδας τον κορφο ως ποτε θα φωλιαζουν ηγετες προδοτες.Το ξαναλεω,οι ΑΛΒΑΝΟΙ ΔΕΝ ΦΤΑΙΝΕ,ΟΙ ΗΓΕΤΕΣ ΜΑΣ ΦΤΑΙΝΕ ΓΙΑ ΟΛΑ.ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΘΟΔΗΓΟΥΜΕΝΟΙ!!!
hk112 1 year ago
@aegvaio769555 Ο ΚΟΓΚΑΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΙΕΡΑΣ ΣΟΥΛΙΩΤΗΣ
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
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@IllyrianLion UR ONE NEO -turk slavoFONE UR NOT ALBANIAN
CHAMS ARE turks WHO SPEAKS albanian lamguage
CHAMS FOUGHT WITH NAZIS AND ITALIANS AGAINST GREEKS IN WORLD WAR 2
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
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Κατά τήν Ιταλική επίθεση εναντίον της χώρας μας τρία από τά δεκατέσσερα συμπράξαντα ἀλβανικά τάγματα ήταν στελεχωμένα από Τσάμηδες, πού επεδόθησαν σε ακατονόμαστες αδικοπραγίες. Στήν διάρκεια της Κατοχής οἱ Τσάμηδες έγιναν οἱ καλύτεροι συνεργάτες των Ιταλών Φασιστών καί διέπραξαν μύριες όσες βιαιότητες εἰς βάρος τών συγχωριανών τους Ορθοδόξων Ελλήνων. Μέ Οργανωτή τήν Ἀλβανική Εθνική Επιτροπή καί αρχηγούς τήν περιώνυμη οἰκογένεια Ντίνο Μπέη διέπραξαν λεηλασίες, σφαγές καί δολοφονίες
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
oi eleines einai h pio gamimeni fara ston kosmo......tous ezisa apo konta epi 17 xronia.....mono tis gynekes tis exoune orees giati oi manes tous exoune gamithh me alvavous to 1944-1945 otan oi eleines pigane ston polemo......halali tous
djalexman 1 year ago
@djalexman ΕΙΣΑΙ ΝΕΟ -τουρκος ΜΟΓΓΟΛΟΣ ΚΑΝΙΒΑΛΟΣ ΠΟΥΤΑΝΑΣ ΓΙΟΣ
ΟΛΗ Η ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ Η ΑΡΧΑΙΑ ΙΛΛΥΡΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΓΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ Η ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΙΚΗ ΣΟΥ ΧΩΡΑ ΕΙΝΑΟ Ο ΚΑΥΚΑΣΟΣ ΝΕΟ - τουρκε ΜΕ αλβανικη ΓΛΩΣΣΑ
ΘΥΜΑΣΕ ΟΤΑΝ ΓΑΜΟΥΣΑΝΕ ΤΟ ΝΕΟ -τουρκικο μουνι ΤΗΣ ΜΑΝΑ ΣΟΥ Ο ΚΑΡΑΙΣΚΑΚΗΣ Ο ΖΕΡΒΑΣ Ο ΝΙΚΗΤΑΡΑΣ Ο ΚΟΓΚΑΣ Ε ΣΚΥΛΟΜΟΥΡΗ
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@unfukkkmee re kargioli,tis poutanas yos,den kseris oti o Ali Pasas eihe gamisi tote oles tis ginekes tis periohis tis Thesprotias,giafto kai eisaste tsadismeni me emas,apo tin mia meria lipame gia ton thimo sas ala apo tin ali herome giati apodihnete st'alithia oti ehete alvaniko ema mesa sas....hahahahahahahahaha alvanakia mikra eisaste ala den to paradeheste....yooi ton poutanoa ala apo paterades palikaria tis Alvanias
djalexman 1 year ago
@djalexman ΜΑΚΑΡΙ ΝΑ ΔΕΙΣ ΝΕΚΡΟΥΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΗΝ ΜΑΝΑ ΣΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΤΕΡΑ ΣΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΚΗ ΦΥΛΗ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ ΝΕΟ-οθωνανικη φυλη ΑΛΒΑΝΟΦΩΝΗ
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@unfukkkmee tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai tis poutanas yos eisai
djalexman 1 year ago
@unfukkkmee tha sas kanonisoume kai esas min stenohoriese,paloukoma,kremasma o ti thelis ehi to magazi...
djalexman 1 year ago
@djalexmanΠΟΥΤΑΝΑΣΕΙΝΑΙ Η ΜΑΝΑ Η ΑΛΛΟΔΑΠΗ Η ΓΑΜΙΟΛΑ ΠΟΥ ΣΕ ΚΑΝΕ ΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ ΣΤΗΝ ΜΑΝΑ ΣΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΣΤΟΝ ΠΑΤΕΡΑ ΣΟΥ ΓΑΜΩ ΤΟΥΣ ΝΕΚΡΟΥΣ ΑΛΛΟΔΑΠΟΥΣ ΣΟΥ
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@unfukkkmee nekros eisai esi malaka,eisai katadikasmenos.....UCK
djalexman 1 year ago
@djalexman ΩΡΑΙΟ SHOW ΚΑΝΕΙΣ
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@djalexman ποια uck ρε? αυτο το συγκροτημα που το διαλυσανε μεσα σε μια μερα? τι συγκροτημα αραγε ηταν? του καφε? πηνανε καφε?
phalanga1821 10 months ago
@djalexman πρωτον ο αλη πασας επερνε γυναικες μονο απο αλβανια και τουρκια ανιστοριτε, και δευτερον ο αλη πασας το πολυ 5 με 10 γυναικες ειχε. αλλα οι υπολοιποι ελληνες γαμουσανε ολες της αλβανιδες, μια και οι αλβανοι ηταν γκει, ψαχνανε να γαμηθουν με τουρκους. για αυτο στην νοτια αλβανια ειστε οι περισσοτεροι μελαχρινοι, εισαστε μπασταρδακια τουρκων και ελληνων. ενω στα βορεια εισαστε ξανθοι και γαλανοματηδες. εισαστε τουρκο-ελληνακια......
phalanga1821 10 months ago
@phalanga1821xixixi,m'ekanes kai gelasa re malaka,oti ehete erthi apo tin Asia to kseroume poli kala giati to dihni kai to derma sas re mbastardi,alla afto gia ton Ali Pasa den to eho ksanakousi,ksero kalla apo ta epitheta pou sas evale o ali pasas omos,giafo eisaste tsandismeni me mas,na sou doso merika paradigmata apo tous epithetous pou sas evale o Ali pasas kai na sou ta metafraso kai sta eleinika ti simeni:
karipidis=poutso-mounakis
mamakiris=gamimeni i mana sou
kriempithas=kolokaifalo
djalexman 10 months ago
@djalexman γελα ωσο θελεις ρε βλακα. αλλα μας ελεγες πριν, και αλλα μας λες τωρα. και το καταλαβαινω οτι γελασες, σιγουρα ειδες στον καθρευτι την μουρη σου. καριπιδης ειναι ποντιακο ονομα ρε ζωων. αλλα τοσο μυαλο εχεις. ποιο δερμα ρε? αμα ζεις σε εντονο ηλιακο περιβαλον ειναι λογικο να εισαι πιο σκουρος. ανοιξε κανενα βιβλιο ρε βλακα να διαβασεις παλαιοανθρωπολογια να δεις τι εστι φυλες και ασε την ονοματολογια. ολοι ελληνες μοιαζουν μεταξυ τους. αλβανοι οχι. τυχαιο? καληνυχτα.
phalanga1821 10 months ago
@phalanga1821 ase tis malakies re pondie,les na einai tiheo afto to onoma,kai ta ala onomata omos,den mas edoses paradigmata,ala kseris kai si poli kala ti simaini,oi eleines einai mongoli kai den me mpori na me pisi kanis gia to antitheto...katevikate apo psila re malakes apo tin asia kai tora thelete kai voria ipiro,kserate kai eki stin mingolia ti simeni afti i leksi...oust apo do re,afi i gi aniki se emas...ala pou tha pai,tha doume pos tha trehsoune ta gegonota...i ora tis Tsamourias eftase
djalexman 10 months ago
@djalexman δεν θυμαμαι να υπηρχε ενα μερος στην ασια να λεγοτανε ελλαδα. αλλα θυμαμαι ενα μερος στην ασια που λεγοτανε.....ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ. εχεις να πεις κατι? παλαιοανθρωπολογικες ερευνες απδειξαν οτι ειμαστε μεσογειακος τυπος, σημαινει οπως οι αρχαιοι ελληνες. και στην αλβανια αποδεικνυεται οτι στην βορεια ηπειρο υπαρχει κυριαρχει το μεσογειακο κρανιο ενω πανω απο την βορεια ηπειρο γινεται της πουτανας. διναρικο κρανιο(γνησιο αλβανικο), μεσογειακο, αρμενοειδης( συγγενεις με αραβες και τουρκους.....
phalanga1821 10 months ago
@phalanga1821 ase tis malakies tora kai sovarepsou....ehete tipota nisia na poulisete giati akousa stis eidisis oti pouliounte 498 nisia,mporis na mpis endiamesa kai si na vrouma kanena giati endiaferete enes filos mou edo stin Germania....den sou kano plaka.....ohi poli megalo,3-4 km tetragonika,tha vgi kati kai gia esena...mou eipe aftos oti meta afou ftiaksi tin villa tou eki.... tha hriasti kapion gia na katharisi ton vothro...
kai mou perase apo to mialo oto eisai kalos..skepsou to kai pes
djalexman 10 months ago
@djalexman και δευτερον εμεις δεν συνεργαστικαμε με τουρκους οπως εσεις. σας γαμησανε τις γυναικες και γινατε μουσουλαμονοι. γαμησαμε και εμεις ενα μικρο κομματι και αυτο το μικορ κομματι εγινε ορθοδοξο. και μας μιλας ρε? μια ζωη τσιρακια εισασταν. τουρκαι και ελλαδα ηταν τσιρακια των μεγαλων δυναμεων, εσεις ομως εισασταν τα τσιρακια απο τα τσιρακια ακομα χειροτερα. για αυτο παρε τον μπουλο απο τον μπαουλο και τραβα στην αλβανια. θα σε ελεγα πανε στο διαλο αλλα πανε στην αλβανια ειναι χειροτερο
phalanga1821 10 months ago
@djalexman και τριτον, ειναι η τελευταια φορα που θα μιλσω μαζι μου. δεν θα ασχοληθω με εναν πιθηκο σαν και εσενα. για τι εγω δουλευω. εργαζομαι. που και που γαμαω καμια αλβανιδα για 3 ευρω(μην ξεχνας εχουμε και οικονομικη κριση ;) δουλευω και εργαζομαι, δεν ληστευω και σκοτωνω για 15 ευρω οπως εσεις. και που σαι, ακουσα στην κρητη ψαχνουνε δουλους να μαζεψουνε πορτοκαλια. ξερεις εσυ. συνηθησμενος. ;)
phalanga1821 10 months ago
@phalanga1821 esi plironis 3 evro re malaka,eno ego pino mpires kai gamao elinides tsampa edo stin Baden-Württemberg ...Stuttgart,iparhoune kai edo poles elinides....orees kai melanhrines...pou kseris mpori na einai kai kapia ksaderfi i aderfi sou re poustra...me aftin tin pina pou ehete tora esis,ehete pari tous dromous tis gis....poustra re poustra....kai mi mou zalizis pia ta arhidia giati nistazo...kai apantise grigora,den kseris na grafis i den kseris na skeftese malaka,ta ehis peksi vlepo
djalexman 10 months ago
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@djalexman γελα ωσο θελεις ρε βλακα. αλλα μας ελεγες πριν, και αλλα μας λες τωρα. και το καταλαβαινω οτι γελασες, σιγουρα ειδες στον καθρευτι την μουρη σου. καριπιδης ειναι ποντιακο ονομα ρε ζωων. αλλα τοσο μυαλο εχεις. ποιο δερμα ρε? αμα ζεις σε εντονο ηλιακο περιβαλον ειναι λογικο να εισαι πιο σκουρος. ανοιξε κανενα βιβλιο ρε βλακα να διαβασεις παλαιοανθρωπολογια να δεις τι εστι φυλες και ασε την ονοματολογια. ολοι ελληνες μοιαζουν μεταξυ τους. αλβανοι οχι. τυχαιο? καληνυχτα.
phalanga1821 10 months ago
Κι εμεις εχουμε εδω τους αλβανογυφτους και τους ταιζουμε! ΓΑΜΩ ΤΟ ΜΟΥΝΙ ΠΟΥ ΣΑΣ ΞΕΡΝΑΓΕ, ΚΩΛΟΓΥΦΤΟΙ!
OlympiakosAntiAntifa 1 year ago
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They were given the opportunity to show their vicious hatred against Greece by the proclamation of the Greek-Italian War. they joined the Italian army organizing two Battalions of their own, and along with fifteen more Albanian Battalions consisting of 15.000 men, they entered Sagada and Filiates, as mercenary allies of the Italians. others who were serving in the Greek army– ”. After the lines had been broken down, the Italians handed over Thesprotia to the mercy of the Tsams.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
zar shqiptarët
Shqiptarët do të vdesin
ipan101010 1 year ago
@IllyrianLion 1st of all i didnt say that the albanian SS division operated in greece. I said that the albanians who were living in greece they cooperated with the Nazi's against Greek People. The result of this was the death penalty verdict for Ultimate Treason because those people are considered greek citizens.
As for the serbs they are just waiting for NATO to fall. And its going to happen sooner than u imagine!
Eheatalios1983 1 year ago
Κατά την αποχώρηση των κατακτητών, μετά από τετραετή κατοχή, ο Ζέρβας διεμήνυσε στους Τσάμηδες ότι: «Όσοι έχουν συνεργασθεί με τους κατακτητές και έχουν διαπράξει εγκλήματα εις βάρος των Ελλήνων, θα δικαστούν από έκτακτα Στρατοδικεία, τα οποία θα συγκροτηθούν επιτόπου και θα δικάσουν τους πραγματικούς εγκληματίες πολέμου Τσάμηδες». Εκείνοι φοβήθηκαν τυχόν αντίποινα και απεχώρησαν μόνοι τους στην Αλβανία. Έτσι μαζί με τους ενόχους έφυγαν και οι μη ένοχοι.
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
AYTO TO ELLHNIKO KRATOS MIA ZWH BOURDELO...PARADIDEI AVERTA EDAFH ANEY ORWN!!!!
tapinoxamomilaki 1 year ago
cameri nuk ka, dhe as do kete, thesprotia ine elladha, ine eleniki !
Merisss20 1 year ago
@Merisss20 o te qifsha ropt ore kurve minoritare...je i denuar me varje,e dime kush je
djalexman 1 year ago
kala ta leei o kyrios....pes akoma oti i alvania itan stn kaspia ,yparhi kai potamon alvanos eki ....
rubicon5300 1 year ago
@IllyrianLion At 1948 3000 Albanians were judged to the death penalty for ultimate treason. Albanians were killing the true natives of Ipiros and they cooperated with the Nazi's. If u study history the 21st SS division was named Skatenberg and it was maned by albanians. You have to know one thing. You will never be Greek and u will never see the albanian flag on the holy grounds of Ipiros. The Serbs are waiting for their chance and we are waiting for that. U will be slaughtered to oblivion!
Eheatalios1983 1 year ago
PO VJEN EDE RADHA CAMERIS SIC MOREM KOSOVEN DO MARIM EDHE CAMERIN MOS UTREMNI SHQIPTAR AVASHAVASH DO VIN TE GJITHA SI IDO AMERIKA
elona1984 1 year ago
@elona1984 do te marni karin.
art3c1 11 months ago
ty kil5869 je nje SPIUNE i madh.nuk je shqiptare eeeeeeeeeee o SPIUNEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
iliri1973 1 year ago
Ο Ευάγγελοςς Βενιζελος ειναι αυτός ;
vasvas2 1 year ago
Boreia Hpeiros gh ellhnikh to poulo na paroune oloi oi abanoi
dinosfulaks 1 year ago
19 of 20 villages in northern epirus were greek! the fascism of the poor-minded albanias and their collaborations with the devil destroyed our northern epirus.
klose77 1 year ago
and finally...
albanians u never-ever won a single battle against greeks.
u want epirus?come and get it.
within 48 hours tirana will become greek land.
epirus was,is-always will be GREECE
andytsa 2 years ago
inside albania thousands and thousands greeks still live by their greek customs and language.
in southern epirus after the nazis left the land,the chams fearing the greek revenge for the murder of greek civilians wich they commited left epirus for ever.
andytsa 2 years ago
chams joined the nazis and started the massacre against greek civilians.
after the nazis left the greek army punished the chams.
the simple truth.
chams=nazis murdered innocent women and children.greeks later raped the chams for good.
andytsa 2 years ago
@andytsa why dont you fuck with Germans to,.only few cham lords colaborated w nazis, not all the innocent chami. population,.Genocide its what the Zerva army did,.we still alive we will take our properties back,..long live Chameria
picari2008 1 year ago
son u are hilarious...
our epirus greeks still want revenge for your rape and murder u chams did in Paramythia.albanians always and always were under the Greeks.simple and true..
andytsa 1 year ago
@picari2008 You have NO properties and u will never have in Ipiros. Trust me if u try coming there u will have the same fortune with the Italians and some albanian battalions 70 years ago.
Eheatalios1983 1 year ago
@Eheatalios1983 etalios,i have propertie in Parga.Come and take it and you will see YOUR fortune,
Peace is the only solution,the Future not the Past.
picari2008 1 year ago
2:05 einai alithia afto entelos agramati anthropi einai simera mesa sti bouloi oxi oloi alla poloi exoume enan gnosto oikogeniako filo
multiyabadabadoo 2 years ago
alvanoi vromiarides elate na tin parete tin hpeiro ean mporeite.
de mporeite omos k gia ayto mou katheste k aplos lete ta makrina oneira sas mesa sto youtube.i ellada panta sas gamouse kala..
ellinas77 2 years ago
albanians never had and never will have the strength to attack greece.
greek army ranked 22 among the worlds armies last year.they prepare for war with turkey not a shithole kind of a country like filthy albania
andytsa 2 years ago
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Greek army is the most RIDICULOUS Army on Earth
In 1949 -Albanians destroy Greek ridiculous army--and thrust their Head inside their Ass,
besides the fact that behind Greek Army were British forces
-Even in 1944---Greeks of Zerva,who were some left overs of Nazis
were helped by British to commit massacre against unarmed Albanian population who to lived in North of Greece (South Epir)
--For 50 years,Greece did not dare to say a word,
--Now, Shut Up ! Otherwise, Ur Time is Running Out
aspetosi 2 years ago
all that During October 1943-April 1944, the Albanian collaborationist organization Balli Kombëtar with support of Nazi German officers mounted a major offensive in Northern Epirus against greek civilians.....even in the english version of wiki speaks the truth!
andytsa 2 years ago
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In Northern Epir, used to live Greeks in two villages, now they are left to Greece
In North of Greece
were living 200, 000 Albanians
who were expelled from their Homes in North of Greece by Greek Collaborators of Nazis,
--Greek Partisans say that Greek collaborators of Nazis committed massacre against Albanians who live in North of Greece
However there are still 400,000 Orthodox Albanians & 300,000 Slav Macedonians
who live in North of Greece under the Repression of Greek police
aspetosi 2 years ago
The results were devastating. During this period over 200 Greek populated towns and villages were burned or destroyed, 2,000 Northern Epirotes were killed, 5,000 imprisoned and 2,000 taken hostages to concentration camps. Moreover, 15,000 homes, schools and churches were destroyed. Thirty thousand people had to find refuge in Greece
andytsa 2 years ago
Oj Merisss20 , oj karaputane te qifshin Çameria , Laberia dhe Matjanet librin e shtepise me te gjalle e me te vdekur. O te qifshin qente rracen e kurves .
Ju e doni si kurvat t'ju rrahesh e t'ju qish tre here ne dite para dhe pas buke.
RROFTE SHQIPERIA ETNIKE
RROFTE ÇAMERIA , LABERIA ,KOSOVA DHE GJITHE SHQIPTARET KUDO QOFSHIN
ROBT KURVAVE TE TIPIT MERISSS20,KORCAGIAPANTA,MrAmilios E GJITHE KURVAVE TE TJERA GREKE E PSEUDOGREKE.
ROBT KURVAVE SERBE dhe SLLAVE
cameria1000 2 years ago
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ne sarande gjithmone kane folur gjuhen greke, mos flisni budalleqe, !
Merisss20 2 years ago
sovara!!!
MsAndrea1978 2 years ago
Minorities in Greece like Macedonins,Vllachs,Arvanitas,Pomaks,Turkish,Jews and Cham Orthodox and Muslims together will burn your stinky shithole to the ground.......We will destroy You becuse we have been your masters and gay greeks were Chams servants.Greek scommitted genocide.thier gay greek church is responsible they are our enemies.
MazarDino 2 years ago
ja ti jallas ore malaka ,mexri ton 1945 i poli saranda dhen ixe katheollu elines ,hajde gamisu ore papu..
muniminoritar 2 years ago
Answer me this question:
Of what ethnicity was Ali Pasha Tepelena
the ruler of the castle of Ioanina in the 1800?
Is ``Ali`` a greek name!?
Is ``Tepelena`` a greek family name?
He was an Albanian ruling over greeks and albanians.
So was Alexander the Great.
Macedonian is the name by which the ancient albanians were identified by.
pinnaclesupclose 2 years ago
pinnaclesupclose. When i have a large greek minority in the southern region of my country i dont spread such vile lies. Ok? Epirus is greek comprised of ancient Xeones, Molosoi, greek tribes. Greeks were politically divided. Do me the favor stupid albanian ignorant wanker and do some reading. Dont eat UCK PROPAGANDAstupid fuck. Ok? and dont be ungrateful. Apreciate the help you have received.
axment 2 years ago
the first to be appreciative of help received should be greece! 65+ years of massive subsidies and support from the U.S., NATO (who built your main highways and protects your nation with 4 military bases) and the EU, and still you are the poorest of the original EU member states. so relax bro and stop eating hyper-nationalist greek mousaka propaganda prepared especially for ignorant malakas by Vatopedi heroes.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
Dear axment, the information that I posted earlier is found in any reputable european or american entity which specialises in ancient greek studies.
Even the Bible in the book of the Acts of the Apostles clearly makes a distinction betwen greeks and macedonians describing them as two deffernt ethnicities. (NIV,NKJ).
Yes my friend, these are facts that the whole learned world knows.
Do yur self a fawor and pull your head out of the sand.
pinnaclesupclose 2 years ago
To axment. Large greek minority!? Where did that come from? Certaily not reality. Albania is populatet 98% by albanians and 2% other, which includes the greek minority.
Perhaps it came from the extreme greek nationalism greed towards other peoples countrys.
Mate Stop watching wideos posted by this idiots who have no idea what they are talking about before they make you olso an idiot more than what they already have.
pinnaclesupclose 2 years ago
shut the hell up you gay greek and do some diggin' within the history books but not the "greek propaganda" ones and if you don't have let me know and I'll sent them to you so you can get educated....and one more thing just so you know if you're "white" it means that you have Arvanit(Albanian) origin and if you're "dark" skin it means that you have an "gipsy" origin converted to Greek....:0)
armen744 2 years ago
GREECE 4 EVER!!!
NICKTHEDIG1989 2 years ago
Epirus was not greek. Epirus was a kingdom of the forefathers of the todays Albanians. Achaia was the only greek kingdom of old.
Alexander the Great and the Macedonians were another non greek kingdom made up of the forefathers of the todays albanians.
Alexander was called a `Barbarian` by the greek filosofers.
He was non greek student of aristoteles.
That is why he used greek letters in his inscriptions.
The first sllavs migrated in the balkans 900 years after his deth.
He was not sllav
pinnaclesupclose 2 years ago
the word "epirus" means only "continent" and has no value as a place name.
only the word Çameria (Tsamouria) based on the ancient river "T'sam" has value as a place name, and ONLY the Albanians use this word.
can you do the math?
why don't you try separating religion & state like every other member of the EU and then recognize the Arvanite Albanian Christian Minority, as we recognize the Greek Minority (50 years) and allow schools in Arvanitik (Albanian).
then we can be friends! ;-)
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
Hahaha really??? Arvanites themshelves don't want to be considered minorities simply cause they feel the live and they die GREEKS!!!! So before u comment read the true facts no the Albania propaganda.....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
you people are so brainwashed. you love to speak for the arvanites, what a joke.
look up arvanites, souliotes and albania on wikipedia to give you at least some small idea of how silly and racist is your point of view is.
also google Arvanites Helsinki Monitor to learn what an international team discovered while researching the topic in greece (no albanians or greeks on the team)
you people do not question authority very much, it is strange.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
If u watch wikipedia Arvanites are in Groups of Greeks!!! Lol u havent pay attention so much.... So im gonna read this Elsinki thing but be aware.... Arvanites are usally located in Elefsina go tell them that they r Albanians they probably gonna stub you.... Lol
Jeffanos 2 years ago
we're not talking about nationality, we are talking about culture. and you are wrong about arvanites, many of them are much more friendly to us in private, because they don't feel compelled to go with the crowd, as in public.
and the wiki story states very clearly that they originate from albania. as i said, nationality, having been confused with religion in recent times, is another story, more complicated.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
Well as i said all Balkan cultures are influenced by Ottomans...The fact that Arvanites origin was Albanian doesn't mean anything my friend.... And yes religion is very important and can define peoples minds about nationality...
Jeffanos 2 years ago
And we should not forget that Arvanites hated Albanians and slayed them without mercy...They considered themshelves Greeks simply cause French revolution and her ancient Greek ideals was spred and Arvanites lived in Greek lands had Greek friends they had the same religion so it was natural to consider themshelves Greeks
Jeffanos 2 years ago
And it is also natural to feel a litle bit sympathy about you but cause they remebered their old costumes (in some ways). But don't fool yourshelves Arvanites will never suport the big Albania thing.....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
you guys are so paranoid about the big albania thing, no one is talking about that. it's just about respect for the historical truths and ending the propaganda wars.
no, the arvanites did not slay other albanians "without mercy" as you say, that is absurd. orthodox and muslim albanians worked hand in hand to throw out the ottomans. don't forget that ali pasha was hated by Istanbul because he achieved such autonomy, which prepared the way for the souliotes, who eventually made peace with ali.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
and of course the big joke: every orthodox = greek, reveals the deeper truth about your fragile and somewhat contrived modern identity.
and please spare us any references between modern greek culture and the french revolution. your nation has not even separated religion & state (the only EU member still operating in a medieval fashion). and there has been no Reform of any kind of orthodoxy, which is why Vatopedi can still operate with impunity and steal public lands for 1 euro.
c'mon jeff.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
U know historians do not consider peace when someone steal your lands kill your wariors and your women and childs throw themshelves from mountains.....This is what Arvanites of Souli did after Ali pasha betrayed truce.....And yes without mercy in Greek revolutionary war the bigest percent of Ottoman units were Albanians and Arvanites killed them cause they wanted to free their country....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
you shouldn't meddle in what was obviously an entirely albanian affair, call it our own little civil war perhaps, though your claims are exaggerated as always for political purposes. and yes, at the end turkish forces killed ali, because ali and his christian brothers and sisters did make a truce.
the first language of your parliament was albanian & the first two presidents were albanian.
when the day comes you have the courage to teach that in your schools, we can sit back & enjoy the music.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
Hhah u r so brainwashed as Americans hahah Albanian???? Our first parliment language was Albanian??? I assume u can prove it with letters or something like that....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
no really, it's true. as you know, albanians were the dominant force in the greek revolution. it was natural that they were immediately present and numerous in the first parliament. there was a vote and the language chosen was greek, by a single vote.
check the archives, it's one of those little pieces of trivia that never make it to your text books, because it could hurt your feelings too much.
marko bocari's Albanian/Greek dictionary is on display in at the National Museum of Paris.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
the greek govt attempted to cover up his origin by burning down the home of his father Noti Bocari.
a descendant of the Bocari clan, Professor Marko Bocari of the university of Queensland in Australia reacted fiercely in 1994 to the declaration of a greek congressman who denied the Albanian contribution in the Revolution of 1821 and Marko Bocari's Albanian origins. "My comments are related to a letter written by a greek minister who declared that there are no Albanians in Greece."
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
"It seems like the minister has no idea about what's happening in his own homeland, or he has deliberately decided to ignore the facts. It's a fact that in Greece live today more than 1 million orthodox Albanians. My parents have never spoken greek with me. they have exclusively spoken Albanian. because they were proud of their Albanian origins and heritage."
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
hey dream on where are you from? Cut the crap. Greeks are greeks. Arvanites are billingual greeks messier. Ok?
axment 2 years ago
nice easy solution served up by Vatopedi gangsters in deep meditation on how to get the government to sell them public land at 1 penny on the dollar.
shame bro.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
And of course Botsari clan is still in Greece ask them what they feel about your opinions....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
ultimately, you are the ones who are more severely brainwashed, because your cultural concept is one that requires an exclusive religious orientation, whereas ours is quite clear that all monotheistic religions were imposed on us and that our chief identity is the ancient, pre-monotheistic one that is contained our language. Arvanitik is referred to as "the old language" in your culture, there is a reason for that.
remember, there is no religious conflict in our country. all live in peace.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
I don't see where u prove your statements about Albanian in our parliment.....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
And there was no vote in parliament about our language.....U haven't read very well our modern history....Kapodistrias came and tryed to made some changes and then came our first Bavarian king....Our language would be Greek anyway cause al warlords felt Greeks.....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
And r u still talking about religious tolerance in your country???Lol When u tryed t stop Greeks of North Epirus to worship their God and raise their flags???HAHA u r outranged!!!!!
Jeffanos 2 years ago
I think this will hurt but u wanted.... The fact that all these Albanian tribes and sub-tribes setlled in Illiria they havent national consious they were only Sultun's subjects nothing more nothing less Albania became a country after Ottoman Empire's destruction and Italians made it hapen not even Albanians themshelves that prooves no National consiousnes something that Arvanites had but in a Greek way.....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
And i know what u r trying t do.... U
Jeffanos 2 years ago
U r trying t destabilize Greece with these pathetic arguments about how Albanians are modern Greek so u can take an advantage and steal lands from us....Your propaganda will eventually stop with one way or another.....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
you are wrong in your paranoia. we are now part of nato and soon to be part of the eu. there is no ambition to change borders. personally, i believe greeks and albanians are two arms on the same body, but we are divided mostly by religion. your church has a historically non-progressive social outlook & has essentially hijacked the ancient greek identity which of course was entirely pagan, sitting atop Pelasgian Mythology & oral traditions.
democracy itself emerged to keep peace among pagans.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
you speak of some imaginary violated rights of greeks in albania, this is completely false. the greek minority has been recognized for more than a half century and has had schools in their own language. in fact, the greek minority was closely aligned with dictator enver hoxha, so they had many benefits.
i don't know about this flag issue you are speaking of, but i can tell you that greece interferes directly in albanian affairs every day. most countries would never be as tolerant as we are.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
our nationalism was not created by italians, you missed the beauty of our movement. it was formed by ottoman albanians, orthodox albanians, catholic albanians and italian albanians. because the italian population of albanians was permitted to live in peace for 800 years in italy, they were the strongest at the time and had protected many old documents and historical identifiers. it was natural that they would play a significant role.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
remember something - and this will obliterate your arguments - the albanians of Italy, called Arberesh - were mostly from the Arvanite population of today's southern greece. because the italians did not discriminate against us, our language our culture and our identity from the middle ages remained intact.
it is the evidence of your oppressive culture, that Arvanites in greece still struggle to know who they are.
read Aristidh Kola, he was a greek arvanite published all over greece.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
and as for your "liberal" church, please read Takis Michas "Unholy Alliance".
i think you will feel shame and perhaps some humility after reading this book.
anyway, good luck and peace from your ancient neighbor ;-) and as always, giassou arvaniti!
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
Your nationalism my friend is created by your politics all Albanians i know....But Italy was the first country who made Albania hapened cause they wanted a protectorate to Balkans..
But Orthodox Albanians??? Arvanites are not so confused my friend about their national consiousnes......
Jeffanos 2 years ago
Yes the Arvanites considered in some ways Albanians but do not forget that Arvanites always had very close relations with the romioi or Greeks (in nowdays) they even had romanochristian names (Greek) and the best clans felt educated because they all spoke Greek......
Jeffanos 2 years ago
All i want to say is that Arvanites may had Albanian origin but religion played signigicant role for their national consiousnes and in a time that the term Abanian nation didn't exist (Albanians were divided in tribes and dun-tribes) it was natural for them to become a big part of our history and be Greeks....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
And i will say to all Orthodox haters like mr Aristides Kolas that modern Greece wouldn't reborn from the ashes if Orthodoxy wasn't the bigest percetage of Greece's populations...And yes i say it modern Greece is mixed as much as a European country can be (in diferent tribes and peoples) but all these populations united under clasical and hellenistic antiquity and now Greece is a stable and unite nation under one religion and one language!!!!! Have a nice day my friend....
Jeffanos 2 years ago
you have very idealistic view of your nation, which is completely normal, i don't fault you for it. but i think you live in a comfortable way that separates you from the realities. that "unity" is a forced unity patrioti. your system is flawed in certain fundamental ways, the most obvious being the immense power of the religious class. whereas western europe went through various reformations & mostly secular states emerged, the eastern church has mostly resisted change & remains fundamentalist.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
you make some good points about why many arvanites do have greek national consciousness, but you fail to realize that nationalism itself is fairly modern phenomenon & is certainly no the exclusive form of cultural identity of a people. language, culture, music, tradition, these are the most important characteristics of a people. nationalism is an attempt to profit from that culture and usually leads to very rigid interpretations of culture & history that most suit economic & political influence.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
and you don't seem to have the courage to explore the question of whether the monotheistic mythologies of the middle east have been good for our region & cultural advancement or not.i think if you reflect, you cannot really escape the conclusion that since the imposition of foreign mythologies, our region has produced nothing but war.
aristidh kola has a lot to say as does Takis Michas. you should have the courage to transcend the group-think mentality that keeps you intellectually subordinate.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
and allow me to point out one last glaring contradiction of your idealistic view of the modern state called greece:you state"modern Greece is mixed as much as a European country can be (in diferent tribes and peoples)", yet your nation is the only member of the EU to recognize NO minorities?! this suggests incredible, almost mythological godlike purity...
and let me also state the obvious fact that diversity in greece does not compare to London, Paris, Berlin, Rome & other cosmopolitan centers.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
i often wonder where this amazing spirit of hellenism lurks in modern greece, when the delusions are so strong and the curiosity of the average citizen is so miniscule as to produce opinions such as yours (understanding as i do that you seem to have a good heart, but the knowledge level is strikingly narrow)
the essence of hellenism is to embrace the greatest ideas and bring them together, to innovate, to be open. today's greece has nothing to with hellenism, apart from the graveyard of art.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
And the fragile identity thing is made up by Albanian propaganda....All Greeks nomater where they ome from and what their origin is Vlachs Arvanites Sarakatsani or even Greeks feel Greeks and bealive that their Greek past belong to them and there is no minority problem accept the Turks of Thrace of course...
Jeffanos 2 years ago
And yes there is no problem with our religion our state works very well if it wasn't EU would never accept us....And churce if our politicians werent corupted wouldn't steal so it isnt our model of governance but corruption which leads to this chaos.... And who r u to judge Greeks u leave in mediaval period yet!!!! U r one of the poorest countrys in Europe and u talk????lol that's funny..
Jeffanos 2 years ago
your confusion of religion & state is the reason that you know so little about us and why you generally have a negative orientation, because a conscious decision was made to pressure the arvanites to prove their greekness. the older generation knows this believe me.
as for the albanian system of today, it is terrible, i am definitely not here to defend it, although the younger generation is much better, so we hope for the best.
by the way Vlah in Albanian means brother.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
but don't brag too much patrioti, greece is still the poorest of the original EU members and this after 65+ years of massive subsidies from NATo, the u.s. and EU. and if you ask why greece was allowed into the EU, it's simple, all non-soviet nations were invited and greece was located in a strategic place. also, by bringing greece into the EU, your natural tendency to kiss mother russia's derriere, was at least somewhat muted, especially after NATO built your main highways and 4 military bases.
balkancoolhead 2 years ago
Simply cause they are Greeks!!!
Jeffanos 2 years ago
Adeedem tu qifte motra. You fat fuck!!! You and your people are the most disgusting human beings in the world. Fuckin faggots.
ergysi 2 years ago
παλμο πρωτα εφαρμοσε το "παν μετρον αριστον" των αρχαιων ελληνων που τοσο αγαπας και χασε καμια 40 κιλα βουβαλακι και μετα να σ ακουσω, αλλα οχι πριν γοριλλα.
χορτασμενους "αφυπνιστες" εγω δεν εμπιστευομαι
anarchy3E 2 years ago
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S'kuptoj asnje fjale...a mundet dikush te me thoje se çfare po flitet ne kete video??!! :))))
illyria011 2 years ago
Greeks are liers....
Go end learn history ouside of greece stop listening propaganda
TheChamerian 2 years ago
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ca po thu mor moter qire grek
kingbardhyli56 2 years ago
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bravo, kill5869, po ik e puno tashti, hajde boll bere si intelektual. ik e nxirr ndonje lek, pastaj hajde e shkruaj prape se ketu jemi. Ik a derzi se do edhe barku buke se per ca ke vajtur e ke shitur bythen tek greku. Po hajde prape e se nuk shtyhet youtubi pa muhabete kare si ato te tuat
agoaliu 2 years ago
veriut epiri toka greke
GrEEkWARLoRD 2 years ago
po drejta drejta shoku, veriu epiri toka greka, jugu epiri toka shqiptara, ika pirdhu tania ;)
agoaliu 2 years ago 2
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lubalesh76 3 years ago
ne luften e dyte, kur erdhen nacistat ne shqiperi, luftuan bashke minoritare dhe shqipetare, ju camet ishit spiunat e gjermanit, vrate e prete ke desheet, e harruat te verteten ta mesosh nga nje shqipetare, une jam shqipetare, qe them te verteten
kill5869 3 years ago
minoritaret nuk tentuan te rrezonin qeverine shqipetare, por camet tentuan ta permbysnin qeverine shqipetare, qe shqipetari ju dha buke, por per nder nuk jua dini ju camet, shqiperia e shqipetareve,
te rroje miqesia greqi e shqiperi, te rrojne minoritaret vellezerit e shqipetareve
kill5869 3 years ago
@kill5869 ti nuk je shqiptar, se shqiptaret e vertete nuk flasin keq per kosove e cameri.
suliot 1 year ago
@kill5869
Të qifsha greket e të tër zogjtë e tyre,izmetqarët të rrin urtrë se ju qihet nëna.
Çamëria është në zemrat tona , së shpejti pranë dhe syve tanë,,,
Përshendetje tër vëllezërve Çamë!
bledalb 1 year ago 26
shqiperia eshte e shqipetareve, camet dhe kosovaret nuk kane toka ne shqiperi, dhe minoritaret tju hani mutin ju camet, shkoni ne greqi, do tju bej greku nje banket te bukur shkoni po jua mbajti bytha
kill5869 3 years ago
zito tin vorio epirin
vorio epiri eine elenika !
kill5869 3 years ago
@kill5869 O zagar.i Grekut,Ti nuk ke toke ne Shqiperi o hyzmetqar qe ke ardhur ne shqiperi kur nuk kishe buke te haje ne Mavroqi,.CAMET dhe vellezerit tane KOSOVARE jane ne tokat e tyre stergjyshore,qe ne kohen e Pellazgeve,.
o zagar i Hoxhes dhe Berishajanultos,qe te dhane tapine ty,qe jeton ne tokat e Bejlereve Shqipetare qe te strehuan dhe te ushqyen, qe shkerdhehesh per 150 euro,pension qe merr nga hajdutet e Evropes,
picari2008 1 year ago
te gjithe qe bertisni, e shani minoritaret jeni te gjithe came, minoritaret ishin dhe jane ne tokat e tyre, ne traditat e tyre greke, kjo eshte e vertete, , po te doni tokat shkoni e luftoni me grekun e ti mirrni tokat, me minoritaret nuk keni püne ti shani, e ti ofendoj njeri, une mbroj te drejten e minoritareve, se e di historine, qe jane ne tokat e tyre !
kill5869 3 years ago 2
cfare thua more patriot, pak minoritare ka ne shqiperi,ne shqiperi jane zonat e dropullit, delvina, himara 90 fshatrat e sarandes, jane zona minoritare, kupton apo jo, minoritaret nuk vrane ndonje shqipetare, por shqipetaret bene shume te keqia mbi popullsine minoritare, minoritaret jane ne tokat e tyre, greke, camet nuk kane toka ne shqiperi, pse pikerisht, mbas luftes dyte boterore, filloi, lufta midis grekeve dhe cameve, nuk me thua ? mos ofendo por kthe pergjigje, se une e di te verteten
kill5869 3 years ago
vodia,pleyrides,savoyres.poy toys kse8avei re ayto to patsavoyri kai toys vgazei na milane sthn tv?
pyrojunk34 3 years ago
Α ρε Λενάρα που τα βρίσκεις αυτά τα Βόδια και τα καλείς στην εκπομπή σου?
urfurslaag 3 years ago
te qifsha greqine mu ne vere te bythes.pederastet
korca8albania 3 years ago
πουστη αλβανε θα ερθει η ωρα σου.
Ronin2011 3 years ago
ha kar ha, rropte qire faggot bitch
korca8albania 3 years ago
turkalban gypsie you call your self ylirian?
hahahaahah have you seen your self on a mirror?
haahahah fucking hilarius
Ronin2011 3 years ago
hahaha haveyou seen ur self first, ethiopian looking dumbfuck
korca8albania 3 years ago
lol i didn't knew ethiopians r white, you mongolic ape. still walking on four?
Ronin2011 3 years ago
you dont know because ur anus is overly fucked by them and my third leg is inside ur mouth
korca8albania 3 years ago
3-qytetet sarande-delvine-konispol as 10 perqind e popullsise nuk qe greke.pra ne rethet e sarandes dhe delvines reth 30 perqind ishte greke.shqiperia nuk i fsheh dokumentat.ata qe ishin greker jane regjistruar ne gjendjen civile si grek,dhe nuk eshte abuzuar ne kete drejtim.kush flet te kunderten e kesaj qe po shkruaj ju genjen.cameria eshte tjeter ,ata kishin tokat e tyre ne cameri dhe jane zbuar me force.ska shenje barazimi ndermjet camerise dhe minoritetit jane 2[dy] tema te kunderta.
muniminoritar 3 years ago
desha ti sqaroja keta greket se pretendojne per saranden dhe delvinen qe eshte greke.po ka greker ne sarande ose kishte deri me 1991doja te thosha se tani ka shume pak.ata grek qe jetonin ne sarande dhe delvine 1-nuk kishin toka me tapi ,ata ishin cifcinj ose bujkrober qe jetonin ne kasolle me kashte.kishat ishin ndertuar nga ata vete ne zonat ku jetoninpor dhe token e kishes kishin marre leje nga bejleret shqiptare per ndertimin e saj.2-ne sarande-delvine kishte 45 fshatra grek dhe 42 shqiptar
muniminoritar 3 years ago
ox mlka o palmos xoris mousi afto einai ntokoumento!!!
TriBoeN 3 years ago
krima poy den einai panelladiko to kanali alla tora me to internet tetoies eleutheres fones tha akougontai perisotero
741852963a 3 years ago
Exoume plourasismo kai dimokratia pou simainei oti OLOI mporoume na syneiparksoume. Oi syneidiseis tou kosmou allazoun siga siga. Afiste loipon ta ethnikistika, psyxropolemika minimata sti akri giati tha ksypnisete mesa mou tous arxaio-Ellinikous Molossious progonous mou kai auta pous sas ekane o Zervas tha oxriasoun mprosta se auta pou tha sas kano ego. Kai oute to NATO, oute oi Amerikanoi tha sas sosoun.
ellin40 3 years ago
Den mporeite kyrioi anoixta kai aprokalipta na apaiteite ton akrotiriasmo tis Ellinikis Dimokratias epeisi eseis nomizete oti eiste apogonoi ton Illyrion! Sto kato-kato, ta synora ta anagnorizei kai i Alvaniki kyvernisi, etsi den einai?
ellin40 3 years ago
Loipon gia na ksemperdeuoume: afiste tis ethikistikes malakies peri aneksartisias orismenon perioxon dioti apla askeite dianoitiko aunanismo. Ta synora den allazoun. Ypaxoun ethikes, koinonikes,kai politistikes omades oi opoies mporoun kallista na yparksoun entos ton yparxonton orion.
ellin40 3 years ago
or grek kari te qifte afrika mamin dhe motren!
giordanwhite 3 years ago
more retarded racist junk.
Gjon777 3 years ago
PIO PINAKA TON GALON more qe te qifte gomari te teme
AndreaKola 3 years ago 2
THIS MEF TALK ABOUT THE ALBANIAN NATION
but he does not know what he talks about
he says that the french army, when it came in albania checked the population and found it to be greek
muahaahahahahahahah
if we were not albanians, we would not fight for it, we would not hold the albanian flag, we would not speak albanian, and albania would not exist
this is BULL SHIT
AndreaKola 3 years ago 5
Apo pu katayise muri.....Arvanitsa ise?
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
skase re mouni vromotsami koalbane bastarde
napoleon zervas edes eternal honour
northern epirus is greek
bolanos vasilis new president of siptars hahahahahahahahaahahha blaka ali pasa sou kopsan to kefali oi tourkoi hahaahah
giorgostheos 3 years ago
tooora malista. Ti na's pu pidhaki'm?
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
al afti i karakaska vamen xanthia. Ola tah i Maryuri u ferentzes ts'lip! Palio Lepres t'Kerata!
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
Ai-ya o Bulis.....thel na mas math ki'tn'istoria mas! Ay shire faei kana kokorets ki pies kania damzana krasi p'mois ena prukil pera san sfli. Mon y'afta fenet na xers kala.
alipashaofjanina2 3 years ago
care thote ky more,kanjeri ta perketheje?
falkogrigio 3 years ago
Dioti emais stin Ellada (ektos ton psyxropolemikon anaxronikon fasiston typou Pleuri), kai i kyvernisi tis xoras, theoroume tin Ellinofoni meionotita tis B. Ipeirou san Ellinofonous ALVANOUS polites mesa stin YPARXOUSA Alvaniki ethniki ontotita opos auti diagrafetai apo ta yparxonta synora.
ellin40 3 years ago
ama den itan o edes kai o zerbas i thesprotia tha itan albaniki tora
giorgostheos 3 years ago
Diladi, me liga logia, vlepeis ton eauto sou san melos tis parousas Ellinikis ontotitas, me tis idiaitairotites sygegrikimenis kononikis/ethnikis omadas (minority) MESA sta plaisia tis YPARXOUSAS Ellinikis pragmatikotitas opos einai ORIOTHETIMENI (prosekse se parakalo tous irous pou xrisimopoio) sta YPARXONTA synora metaksy Elladas kai Alvanias, i vlepeis ton eauto san meros KAPOIAS ALLIS omadas EKTOS to simerinon orion?
ellin40 3 years ago
alipashaofjanina2: ti tsamis eisai? ellinas? dioti yparxoun ellines tsamides oi opoio theoroun tous eautous tous Ellines polites, eitai einai orthodoxoi Xristianoi, eite mousoulmanoi (stin opoia periptosi theorountai Ellines mousoulmanoi polites).
ellin40 3 years ago
what does he is saying??
any english translate
P4RR3LL 3 years ago