@Rashaed, Not really, It's still a fight, that just ends after 2 secs. ;P Doesn't necessarily have to be a walkthrough, just because a fight ends quickly, now does it? It's not like you teleport out of the place when you're done with her.
@cadcsa No, its the Unified Texture Pack for the game. The site is down for it though and it doesn't look like its coming back as its been down for a long time but theres a texture pack you can use on the Deus Ex 2 FileFront.
@Rashaed I see. So what does that mean for Deus Ex Invisible War? Her showing up at UNATCO. Trouble? Be cause I havent played the game yet. Just the predecessor Deus Ex, when JC merges with Helios. How cool.
@wcdornez It's Billie's last attempt to stop Alex from uploading the Aquinas Protocol to JC Denton/Helios (or the Illuminati). Remember, she works for the Templars now and she was the one attacking the last 2 Apostle-corp labs.
I think she even knew of the attack on Chicago beforehand.
@Rashaed Ahh well, that means she aint worthy of being spared in the first place! I would always go for JC's ending be cause that was my favorite ending in Deus Ex when JC merges with Helios, and JC was always cool. Bye Bye Billie. Anyway, why would she work for the Templars? What a nut job.
@Rashaed What a dumbass she is. And what is evil about joining JC and fulfilling his vision of a plan? Nothing. Only betterment. And how about being Alex's rival in bed instead? Thats what being overly augmented does to womans libido. It kills it. What a dumb bitch.
@SuperRaider22 Its fun to takes that ego down a peg. Too bad she doesn't use her biomods in the fight. But then again neither does JC Denton if you fight him.
I never played the first Dues EX, but I absolutely loved this game, it was a complete breath of fresh air to the FPS games that have been released as of late... This game is very original
also, I have the PC version, was this recorded from Xbox? the graphics seem much more detailed
I killed every single thing in the game except The Omar. I even returned the dead Omar in the Lower Seattle sewers to his comrades. I am proud of myself. Lol.
I don't get it: I said I wanted to incapacitate her in the dialogue choices then used the boltcaster from 100% to 0% but when I mouse over her body it says (Dead) - what the hell?
@Xyrgra If you hit her with the boltcaster after she goes unconscious, she'll die. Try using the sniper rifle or the Magrail. Usually she disappears before dying.
@Rashaed templars were nuts, JC only wanted to unite the world so there was no more fighting/suffering. Although his methods were too extreme in my mind... that meant no individuality. Illuminati was a saner choice the lesser of two evils
@thomas007 I might have thought the same until the WTO order you to destroy that Nasif Greenhouse. Just because it messed with their money. Like Paul said in the 1st game "a corporate elite protected by laws and tax codes."
That's why I shoot her with the tranquilizer gun, same with Klara if I have to fight her. They'll be fine and awake after a few hours and you're long gone.
Come to think of it, I killed a very small number of people. Templar armored troopers, Illuminati Elites, and the leaders of the factions, these are the only people I killed.
I threw an emp grenade and then used the boltcaster to shoot her unconscious. But that doesn't do anything storywise, as you never see her again anyway.
Actually you do, if you don't kill her she shows up at the UNATCO ruins. I had to work hard to avoid killing her there too, because she surrounded herself with the soldiers that give off poisonous gas when they die. Which has to be about the worst idea I've ever seen. A mod that kills your fellow soldiers when you die? Weak.
@lucfilm2010 The guys that give off the gas when they die are Illuminati commandos. Adams works for the Templars. The commandos show only after you route the Aquinas Protocol. So its hard to face her in UNATCO because she has Armor Templar backup.
you made this fight look harder than it is, I just activated the heal biomod and beat her to a pulp with the polic baton, the fight was over in a few seconds.
Not if you have HE ammo for your assault rifle. It's ridiculously easy with that, given that around 3 direct hits are enough. Which takes like... 2 Seconds. :(
With *regular* Weapons they're quite the beasts to take down, that's true.
@Tasfarel0 strangly enough i managed to take down walton simons with one shot to the head with a pistol before he even got a shot off on hard he was right next tohim tho and gunther i took down with HE in about 2 sec so i was a litle disapointed but still amazing game
2 bad it doesnt matter if u kill or incapacitate her, for the game ending i mean, but yeah shes a bitch... she always switches sides when she find out smtg is wrong
The difficultly of this game is how incredibly hard it is to keep a decent amount of ammo to fight large groups of enemies. The templar battles later on get much more challenging. If you want really hard, play the first Deus Ex- enemies will headshot you at point blank range with a sniper rifle the instant you peek around corners.
I played the original one six times. Once I did a non-lethal run and only killed the ones the game made me (Anna, Gunther, Simons, Page). THAT was hard.
You may be right about the game still being challenging in other ways, but I guess I'm used to old-school FPS like Quake that required a lot more ducking and weaving in the combat.
@schneee Yeah, in the original DX, your head would've been blown off by then unless u were using the god cheat. stupid cheats make everything too easy and I haven't even played IW well cause it just looks sucky...and besides, nothing can compare to the first one with JC and not deadbeat Alex with his stupid hair and lame name.
@schneee if you want a better rendition of the fight, look on the list of suggested videos for the one called "Bilie Adam's demise"
I know the quality isn't as good because it was one of my earliest recordings, but I think it will be more along the lines of what you were looking for ;)
what i did was i pulled out the smg and kept shoot Billie and her spider bots, it was the most heart pumping and exciting moment i've ever had in a video game.
No offence Rashaed - you're obviously a massive DX2 fan just like me - but I preferred the way I killed her; either some sweet melee moves with the Dragontooth, or a duck and cover firefight the maxed-out SMG (fragmentary round and increased damage). Good video though, five stars from me xD.
P.S. The detail looks really high quality, but also weird. Is an American/European issue or something?
Not a problem. As long as you had fun finishing her off. I applied a texture pack mod by Koif which is available at Deus Ex Files . He did most of his work on the Seattle enclave and major characters.
Mehh personally I would just mag rail her a few times and then slowly cut her up..... Masochistic death? maybe but after what she had done. she deserves it... I wonder if the omar will be in deus ex 3
I'd have to look up when the Omar first are created (in the game world of course). Deus Ex 3 is going to be a prequal and I hope it does well enough to warrent a remake of the original Deus Ex.
Yea, it said some things like when they were created, what are they doing, that they llok awful but still are good traders and something about each one being human in past. Right!:Just before Part 2.
Kinda yes, you can't kill any of them or all others will turn against you. They got 3x more health then normal peoples and are immune to fire. And they can live in any world, in omar ending only they survive armagedon.
The first time I saw Omar traders I killed both of them with the sniper rifle and stole their items. The next city I went to they were selling biomods for a ridiculously expensive cost. Needless to say I started helping them after that...
Yes, without omars it's very hard to end game. They even give u quest in kairo that can get you 1000 credits. And a biomod canisters for rewards, and this good prices.. in kairo you can have everything you want if you help omars right.
Billie was annoying as balls. Omg, I love how in this game, the way he just throws people. My favorite was when I threw a dude on top of the tv, killed the tv with my knife and the dude was still floating there like the tv hadn't moved xD This game is the best/has the best glitches.
The first time i faced this room i just killed her with grenades, when i played the game again i just made a run for JC's switch and left her behind... though in the second encounter i killed her.
There can only Be one - So Billie Adams Had to Die In order for you to forfill your destiny. Even if she hadnt dont anything wrong i would have killed her - Just to be the Only one left.
Damn I had a bad time trying not to kill her and what I get? Back in the UNATCO slums she tries to kill me again! I didn't give her a second chance and I sliced her good with the energy blade, if I knew I would have sliced her in the first time!
What strong military training for one elite super secret agent:)).
That is one piece of crap implemented AI as is in all the IWar bosses. The DX glitch was that you could kill bosses before talking to them :)). No adrenaline in this game whatsoever. Hope the third will be better.
Rashaed, why would you kill her? Dude, that's cold-blooded. I know it's just a game, but if you don't get an immediate emotionally negative response from killing an unarmed and helpless assailant, even in virtual form, that's just fucked up.
When I first played KoTOR I was completely floored at my response to the moral decisions you're forced to make. I thought I would be an ice-cold killa but the complete opposite happened (except the bastard sith who deserved it, fuck those evil bitches).
She is redeemable. Just wait till after the Helios merger and her irrationality will disappear. Plus she hasn't actually killed anyone as far as we know, even though she was about to kill the main character i.e. you.
I suppose she could be redeemed but still didn't appreciate what Apostlecorp gave her. Plus, she still killed members of Apostlecorp for the Templars in Cairo and Trier(Black Gate).
I didn't see any evidence of her specifically killing anyone, I'll have to pay closer attention my next time through. I was just so shocked that someone enjoyed killing one of my favorite characters from the game.
Lin May Chen, Dumier, DuClare, and Saman, on the other hand...
Remember she went through the teleporter by leading the attack on the Black Gate. Alex said "she single handed took down Apostlecorp." Best case scenario she is an accessory. I expected her to not join anyone since they all lied one way or another. But to join the worst group of them all is unforgivable.
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If you plant mines beside where she spawns,she goes down quick.I like punching her unconscious,but I agree with Renji 1,I liked Billie too and wanted to be able to join her,I usually put a cap in JC anyway.Who wants to violate every man woman and child on the planet with nanites anyway?
I don't see why. She has the biggest ego out of all the trainees (yes even bigger than Leo). She joined the religious fanatics that hated her kind just to continue to compete with Alex. Billie is the cunt. And if you want to know who was for with JC Denton, then read the comments on the JC Denton vids. people are drawn to the idea of equality as oppose to more war.
Thanks for the backup. Even if you think Billies thinking was irrational, of then Leo's was really just as bad, at the opposite end to Billie's ideas. He also wanted to go one up on all the other trainees, only this time by going a step beyond the biomods by joining the Omar, which as he finds out towards the end of the game, isn't the best choice and the Omar didn't take too kindly to him having second thoughts.
I don't really think you can say that anyones ideologies in the game were completely
irrational - this wasn't meant to be the kind of game where any one person could be seen as totally right or wrong. That would have made it too easy to pick an ending. Hopefully, come DX3, there will be a bit more freedom of choice. As will be expected these days, of course... Oh, and the use of such vulgar words renders your points null and void, Rashaed. :)
Slow down you. I was using JosephMelia word. He called Leo a pompous cunt. Does that render his points null and void?
Anyways, I know that there are no "good guys" in IW. I didn't care that Billie joined the Order, it was her joining the Templars. There was nothing good about them. The Templars ending is just as depressing as the ending where you kill everyone. At least the WTO was attempting to help people even though they would maintain disparity. I'll pick the "pure democracy" any day.
Thank you! This is what miffed me in this game - a promise of moral ambiguity erased with half of the factions (Omar & Templars) being clearly bad/disturbing. The Omar at least proved occasionally useful - they sold weapons & mods - but the Templars, who could've had valid points on the futility of a technologic arms race or radical reworking of every human system on the planet, were reduced to homicidal fanatics. Their only good thing was their dialog when they got shot: Baphomet preserve me!
Style over substance? What planet are we on here? Alas, of course, I wasn't really trying to be stylish. Anyway, I still stand by my point, regardless of how ridiculous you may find it...:)
Speaking of wanting to head out into game with the intention of being an all round nasty type and then failing, I thought I would have done just that in Mass Effect. However, thanks to those clever game designers, I just didn't have it in me to be mean to my fellow crew members!
No, dude, you obviously don't understand the style over substance fallacy. Either that or I'm misunderstanding you.
Example: "fucking 2 plus fucking 2 equals fucking 4"
The fact that 3 "fucks" are inserted gratuitously into that statement does not in any way invalidate said statement. Just because you don't like the style of an assertion does not mean that the assertion is wrong.
What's wrong with universal biomodification anyway? All it would do is raise everyone to perfect physical and mental health, and make their needs and desires known to the Helios AI to better administrate the world. A world without disease, poverty, and war is much preferable to the Illuminati's neo-aristocracy.
I wasn't talking about the Templars' views on biomods; it was in response to JosephMelia's comment on how JC wanted to "violate" everyone on the planet with nanites.
While I agree with that you also have to admit that in the end it all boils down to a question of opinion.
JC Denton's ending was my favorite by far, it would take humanity to a whole new level, one where we would evolve as a single entity while retaining free will at the same time.
It is indeed a question of opinion; In fact, the choices that you face to shape the future in IW mirror the ones in the original DX: You can help the world take a step foward (Merge with Helios/help JC), maintain the status quo of capitalism and democracy (Assist the Illuminati in both games), or bring about an age of anarchy (Destroy Area 51/Kill all faction leaders). Of course, Invisible War also gives you the option of siding with the villains, something that was sorely missing in Deus Ex.
Not even a single entity. JC himself said "Life will go on as usual". They are linked to Helios, not assimilated to him. That's why this ending has no freakin' drawbacks AT ALL.
Hmm, this is the one part of this game that really annoyed me. I actually liked Billie as a character (she had more character than your other fellow agents and wasn't an ass like that Leo), so it really ticked me off that the game forced you into killing her. Actually when I got to this point, I ran away from this fight. Since this was meant to be a game about choice, I found a tad jarring when you didn't get the choice to go along with Billie's way of thinking.
So, Billie adams become the member of the templars. You can avoid confrontation here if you want but she'll reappear in the final level (liberty island). If you accomplished some missions to the templar and they're your friends on the final level Billie won't attack you. If you're the foe of the templars she'll attack you automatically. That time you can simply avoid her if you want but you can also kill her.
What a bunch of hypocrites!They hate biomodification but they know they can't win without it. I understood the Order but the Templars were completely nuts.
The templars can exist without biomods... They knew they have no chance against modified troops (like chad dumier's illuminati commando) so they used their gold supply and made a powered armor (exoskeleton) to their troops. With it they're about as hard as a modified soldier, but inside their armor they remain human...
Yes, you're right. I simply forgot that they wanted to use Alex D too.
But thre's another thing: If the player helps the Templars and they win they spread a virus called nanite strain what killes all augmented person in the world. It's a really cruel thing since an augmented soldier win them the war...
When I played this I knocked her out (I was playing with a zero-casualty objective to challenge myself) but I did not see her reappear later in the game, nor did anyone really mention her later (aside from a bit from JC says about intolarence shortly after this.)
If you leave her like this, you get to fight her again later, or if you are suicidal enough to join Saman she talks to you about how you made the right choice and history will see you and her as heroes and saints.
When an enemies health bar is drained toward death (or unconsciousness), they drop their weapon assume that 'surrender' pose. I just love it when Billie does it.
What a rotten way to die.
rulfus7 1 month ago
she should just go back to the futuristic kitchen.
TheCaladbolgftw 2 months ago
EXECUTION.
TheHideousRevelation 4 months ago
Everyone sounds so fucking bored.
Poppleganger 5 months ago
Didn't even defend herself....What a rotten way to die.
TheLackofattack 5 months ago
fail... you could have killed her within 2secs with that sniper.
Revixy 6 months ago 2
@Revixy That would be a terrible video. Unless its a walkthrough.
Rashaed 6 months ago 7
@Rashaed, Not really, It's still a fight, that just ends after 2 secs. ;P Doesn't necessarily have to be a walkthrough, just because a fight ends quickly, now does it? It's not like you teleport out of the place when you're done with her.
Revixy 4 months ago
@cadcsa No, its the Unified Texture Pack for the game. The site is down for it though and it doesn't look like its coming back as its been down for a long time but theres a texture pack you can use on the Deus Ex 2 FileFront.
Tallfire3 6 months ago
I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS.
benos 6 months ago
Is it possible to spare her? She looks like a good squeeze.
wcdornez 9 months ago
@wcdornez Yes, you can go thought the game without killing anyone. Just remember if she lives through this, she'll show up at UNATCO.
Rashaed 9 months ago
@Rashaed I see. So what does that mean for Deus Ex Invisible War? Her showing up at UNATCO. Trouble? Be cause I havent played the game yet. Just the predecessor Deus Ex, when JC merges with Helios. How cool.
wcdornez 9 months ago
@wcdornez It's Billie's last attempt to stop Alex from uploading the Aquinas Protocol to JC Denton/Helios (or the Illuminati). Remember, she works for the Templars now and she was the one attacking the last 2 Apostle-corp labs.
I think she even knew of the attack on Chicago beforehand.
Rashaed 9 months ago
@Rashaed Ahh well, that means she aint worthy of being spared in the first place! I would always go for JC's ending be cause that was my favorite ending in Deus Ex when JC merges with Helios, and JC was always cool. Bye Bye Billie. Anyway, why would she work for the Templars? What a nut job.
wcdornez 9 months ago
@wcdornez She never makes her arguments for joining the Templars very well. It centers around "the lesser evil" crap.
I think she joins the Templars to retaliate on Apostle-corp and WTO for lying her. She also likes being Alex's rival.
Rashaed 9 months ago
@Rashaed What a dumbass she is. And what is evil about joining JC and fulfilling his vision of a plan? Nothing. Only betterment. And how about being Alex's rival in bed instead? Thats what being overly augmented does to womans libido. It kills it. What a dumb bitch.
wcdornez 9 months ago
When an SSC Guard sees the body he'll say, " Oh my God,a person!"
icesyncer 9 months ago
welllllllllll........ she surrendered quite fast....
SuperRaider22 11 months ago
@SuperRaider22 Its fun to takes that ego down a peg. Too bad she doesn't use her biomods in the fight. But then again neither does JC Denton if you fight him.
Rashaed 11 months ago
I never played the first Dues EX, but I absolutely loved this game, it was a complete breath of fresh air to the FPS games that have been released as of late... This game is very original
also, I have the PC version, was this recorded from Xbox? the graphics seem much more detailed
cadcsa 11 months ago
*sigh* I fucking loved the original, but never found a computer that could run this. Now I've lost the damn game.
deathhound7 1 year ago
Interesting similarities in storyline to Assassin's Creed... In my opinion... Cough...
KelethianTheElf 1 year ago
I killed every single thing in the game except The Omar. I even returned the dead Omar in the Lower Seattle sewers to his comrades. I am proud of myself. Lol.
Kenshinhiri 1 year ago
I don't get it: I said I wanted to incapacitate her in the dialogue choices then used the boltcaster from 100% to 0% but when I mouse over her body it says (Dead) - what the hell?
Xyrgra 1 year ago
@Xyrgra If you hit her with the boltcaster after she goes unconscious, she'll die. Try using the sniper rifle or the Magrail. Usually she disappears before dying.
Rashaed 1 year ago
@Rashaed Worked this time, thanks - not that I saw her later on in the game though, but at least my conscience is clear!
Xyrgra 1 year ago
My favorite characters were Klara and NG (the hologram). Billie on the other hand was very pretentious, she deserved to be kill.
taira1180 1 year ago
Why do voice actresses make their deaths sound like orgasms?
It's a 10mm shell... not a 10" swell.
abram730 1 year ago 5
@abram730 This is one of the greatest comments I have seen, ever.
0Angel0A 1 year ago
Did anyone else think that Billie actually had the right idea?
TigerRifle1 1 year ago
@TigerRifle1 Nope. She's a hypocrite.
Rashaed 1 year ago
@Rashaed templars were nuts, JC only wanted to unite the world so there was no more fighting/suffering. Although his methods were too extreme in my mind... that meant no individuality. Illuminati was a saner choice the lesser of two evils
thomas007 1 year ago
@thomas007 I might have thought the same until the WTO order you to destroy that Nasif Greenhouse. Just because it messed with their money. Like Paul said in the 1st game "a corporate elite protected by laws and tax codes."
This time I go with the devil I don't know.
Rashaed 1 year ago
i haven't fight with billie adams because it is stil my friend and i dont want the death from billie adams
MonstaFr3ak404 1 year ago
@MonstaFr3ak404
That's why I shoot her with the tranquilizer gun, same with Klara if I have to fight her. They'll be fine and awake after a few hours and you're long gone.
FortitudeOfHeaven 1 year ago
trying to do this on the XBOX one is just as easy, except the screen tears so much that you can't really kill her with weapons
AssaulteedOne 1 year ago
What a pathetic AI.
Deathshuck 1 year ago 3
I didn't kill Billy, just knocked her out.
Come to think of it, I killed a very small number of people. Templar armored troopers, Illuminati Elites, and the leaders of the factions, these are the only people I killed.
allankles 1 year ago
i used sniper rifle and shotgun combo and just blew her to hell
gypsyprince1989 1 year ago
I threw an emp grenade and then used the boltcaster to shoot her unconscious. But that doesn't do anything storywise, as you never see her again anyway.
cryora 1 year ago
@cryora
Actually you do, if you don't kill her she shows up at the UNATCO ruins. I had to work hard to avoid killing her there too, because she surrounded herself with the soldiers that give off poisonous gas when they die. Which has to be about the worst idea I've ever seen. A mod that kills your fellow soldiers when you die? Weak.
lucfilm2010 1 year ago
@lucfilm2010 The guys that give off the gas when they die are Illuminati commandos. Adams works for the Templars. The commandos show only after you route the Aquinas Protocol. So its hard to face her in UNATCO because she has Armor Templar backup.
Rashaed 1 year ago
you made this fight look harder than it is, I just activated the heal biomod and beat her to a pulp with the polic baton, the fight was over in a few seconds.
toncora 1 year ago 5
@toncora That would make a lousy video.
Rashaed 1 year ago 3
Taking out Walton Simons or even Gunther Hermann in DXI was a way much harder (unless you used a killphrase on Hermann)
:)
But female level bosses always turn to be such treacherous opponents.
:)))
Chaocracy 1 year ago
@Chaocracy
Not if you have HE ammo for your assault rifle. It's ridiculously easy with that, given that around 3 direct hits are enough. Which takes like... 2 Seconds. :(
With *regular* Weapons they're quite the beasts to take down, that's true.
Tasfarel0 1 year ago
@Tasfarel0 strangly enough i managed to take down walton simons with one shot to the head with a pistol before he even got a shot off on hard he was right next tohim tho and gunther i took down with HE in about 2 sec so i was a litle disapointed but still amazing game
widgethunter 1 year ago
personally billy is the weakest and dumbest boss in any video game next to cloud and candy
Raymondmcf 2 years ago
did they teleport in??? theres teleportation technology in deus ex universe?
chengda85 2 years ago
2 bad it doesnt matter if u kill or incapacitate her, for the game ending i mean, but yeah shes a bitch... she always switches sides when she find out smtg is wrong
derrickhayden 2 years ago
Wow! That's stone cold!
darkguardian1314 2 years ago
Billie is hot.
xxInternetIdiot90xx 2 years ago
All I did was use the railgun (forget what it was called) to take out the spider bots and then use the boltcaster and cloak.
InvaderJif 2 years ago
Beat it 10 times
CodeLyokoRules01 2 years ago
I love this game!
CodeLyokoRules01 2 years ago
What a shame.
What a rotten way to die.
MiracleKD18 2 years ago
I would say about Billie: What a rotten way to live.
Rashaed 2 years ago 4
Ahem gentlelmen.
Orbit101 2 years ago
The game is easy. Player should have knocked her out once she gave up.
PopcornCoolie 2 years ago
This looks ridiculously easy! The video was 80% switching weapons while sitting completely still.
What a joke.
schneee 2 years ago 29
@schneee
The difficultly of this game is how incredibly hard it is to keep a decent amount of ammo to fight large groups of enemies. The templar battles later on get much more challenging. If you want really hard, play the first Deus Ex- enemies will headshot you at point blank range with a sniper rifle the instant you peek around corners.
GameMiestro 2 years ago
I played the original one six times. Once I did a non-lethal run and only killed the ones the game made me (Anna, Gunther, Simons, Page). THAT was hard.
You may be right about the game still being challenging in other ways, but I guess I'm used to old-school FPS like Quake that required a lot more ducking and weaving in the combat.
schneee 2 years ago
VERY true. Lol. At least the AI hit you 50% of the time, even on easy mode.
darkenlightenment 2 years ago
@schneee Yeah, in the original DX, your head would've been blown off by then unless u were using the god cheat. stupid cheats make everything too easy and I haven't even played IW well cause it just looks sucky...and besides, nothing can compare to the first one with JC and not deadbeat Alex with his stupid hair and lame name.
FOBloveaddict14 2 years ago 2
@schneee if you want a better rendition of the fight, look on the list of suggested videos for the one called "Bilie Adam's demise"
I know the quality isn't as good because it was one of my earliest recordings, but I think it will be more along the lines of what you were looking for ;)
cadcsa 11 months ago
@schneee what a shame
olaine1989 6 months ago 2
Wow that looked rediculously easy. I can't remember how taxing it was when I played it, but crap! They can make it harder!
dethmaul 2 years ago
this is my favorite part.
hollow334 2 years ago
I just shot Billie and I...
JIZZED IN MY PANTS!
Search that if you don't get it.
Rashaed 2 years ago
what i did was i pulled out the smg and kept shoot Billie and her spider bots, it was the most heart pumping and exciting moment i've ever had in a video game.
hollow334 2 years ago
I love this game I have it on my old xbox I love all the choices and story is great I need to find this on pc so I can play it on my laptop
neard2000 2 years ago
You can download it with Steam.
Rashaed 2 years ago
thanks
neard2000 2 years ago
i loved the way you put the pistol to her head, even if it was like *puts pistol to head* BANG!!!!
BANG!!!!!
*she eventually dies*
emoal1 2 years ago
The first time I played this I thought it was carp.
BOY WAS I WRONG!!! I've played the first game and I'm such a fan that I want to play this game again! :)
thedragonb0y 2 years ago
I remember the first time I played through IW I thought this was the last level, and that I'd get a chance to join Billy here.
Honestly, this is the one level in DX:IW where it feels like you should have had more freedom (in terms of moral choices) than they gave the player.
altfan 2 years ago
No offence Rashaed - you're obviously a massive DX2 fan just like me - but I preferred the way I killed her; either some sweet melee moves with the Dragontooth, or a duck and cover firefight the maxed-out SMG (fragmentary round and increased damage). Good video though, five stars from me xD.
P.S. The detail looks really high quality, but also weird. Is an American/European issue or something?
Solkovsky 2 years ago
Not a problem. As long as you had fun finishing her off. I applied a texture pack mod by Koif which is available at Deus Ex Files . He did most of his work on the Seattle enclave and major characters.
Glad you enjoyed the video.
Rashaed 2 years ago
Ah, cool. I'll look for that, because it looks great.
Solkovsky 2 years ago
Mehh personally I would just mag rail her a few times and then slowly cut her up..... Masochistic death? maybe but after what she had done. she deserves it... I wonder if the omar will be in deus ex 3
hawkwreak 2 years ago
I'd have to look up when the Omar first are created (in the game world of course). Deus Ex 3 is going to be a prequal and I hope it does well enough to warrent a remake of the original Deus Ex.
stbays 2 years ago
Omars were created in russian illegal labs after JC destroyed aquins protocols.
DX 3 will be probably a prequel, so no omars.
Arsheerek 2 years ago
True, I know for certain part 3 is a prequal. I assumed the Omar were created either during part 1 or just before part 2.
stbays 2 years ago
Nope, in one of texts between missions it's cleary said "Omares are cyborgs from russian labs. They were created after the colapse."
Arsheerek 2 years ago
So just before Part 2.
I assumed the game said something about the Omar, I just couldn't remember.
stbays 2 years ago
Yea, it said some things like when they were created, what are they doing, that they llok awful but still are good traders and something about each one being human in past. Right!:Just before Part 2.
Arsheerek 2 years ago
Omar are a lot like the Borg in Star Trek, but in this game they aren't very powerful yet.
GameMiestro 2 years ago
Kinda yes, you can't kill any of them or all others will turn against you. They got 3x more health then normal peoples and are immune to fire. And they can live in any world, in omar ending only they survive armagedon.
Arsheerek 2 years ago
The first time I saw Omar traders I killed both of them with the sniper rifle and stole their items. The next city I went to they were selling biomods for a ridiculously expensive cost. Needless to say I started helping them after that...
GameMiestro 2 years ago
Yes, without omars it's very hard to end game. They even give u quest in kairo that can get you 1000 credits. And a biomod canisters for rewards, and this good prices.. in kairo you can have everything you want if you help omars right.
Arsheerek 2 years ago
Billie was annoying as balls. Omg, I love how in this game, the way he just throws people. My favorite was when I threw a dude on top of the tv, killed the tv with my knife and the dude was still floating there like the tv hadn't moved xD This game is the best/has the best glitches.
InvisibleWar21 2 years ago 2
good bye billie
meganutts84 2 years ago
when i faced her i used her bots against her blowing them up while they were right next to her
greblu2 3 years ago
my issue with Billie is that she's supposedly your best friend and yet gives you more opportunities for meaningful interaction with Klara and Leo.
This is probably so you don't kill her before the battle in JC Denton's Sanctuary.
LionessKate 3 years ago
The first time i faced this room i just killed her with grenades, when i played the game again i just made a run for JC's switch and left her behind... though in the second encounter i killed her.
HyrAyl 3 years ago
WTF?! She just sat there. Was that bad A.I., or was there a context for why she just sat there like that?
irpacynot 3 years ago
When an enemies health bar is drained toward death (or unconsciousness), they drop their weapon assume that 'surrender' pose.
Rashaed 3 years ago
I see. Thanks.
So, could he have let her live, and if so, would that have changed how the story unfolded?
irpacynot 3 years ago
If you let her live, she will be in the UNATCO room trying to kill you again.
Rashaed 3 years ago
If you knock her unconscious, she won't be.
MarcusCicero7 3 years ago
I have knocked her unconscious and she showed up at UNATCO.
Rashaed 3 years ago
That's wierd, I definitely didn't see her again. Fluke I guess
MarcusCicero7 3 years ago
There can only Be one - So Billie Adams Had to Die In order for you to forfill your destiny. Even if she hadnt dont anything wrong i would have killed her - Just to be the Only one left.
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DanameaTheBattleLock 3 years ago
wow!! nieźle se dałeś rade z tym, ja musiałem zużyć z 10 spides bots bravo
714miki714 3 years ago
shes a easy oen to kill just throw grenades at here her then she some how surrenders and i use my machine gun and kill her BAHAHAHAA
X3freako 3 years ago
I smacked Billie down with the baton the second the convo was over (max level combat strength)
StormZephyr 3 years ago 3
i almost killed her at the start lol (i used hacks)
darth3335 3 years ago
I never killed any of classmates in IW. Saved leo by giving him money, klara by freeing her, billie knocked out.
Arsheerek 3 years ago 2
Billie deserved to die!!
Rashaed 3 years ago
Same here never killed my classmates. Actually apart from those heavy templar troopers and the fanction bosses I never killed anyone.
allankles 3 years ago
Do you have to fight Billie?
Darskul 3 years ago
You have to fight her but you don't have to kill her. You can go through the whole game without killing anyone.
Rashaed 3 years ago
Damn I had a bad time trying not to kill her and what I get? Back in the UNATCO slums she tries to kill me again! I didn't give her a second chance and I sliced her good with the energy blade, if I knew I would have sliced her in the first time!
duagnelo 3 years ago
LOL I think most did just that. I though she was a "friend".
Rashaed 3 years ago
What strong military training for one elite super secret agent:)).
That is one piece of crap implemented AI as is in all the IWar bosses. The DX glitch was that you could kill bosses before talking to them :)). No adrenaline in this game whatsoever. Hope the third will be better.
andross227 3 years ago
i love this moment...."The remembers of JC"
JCFadil 3 years ago
I beat the shit out of her with the batton
MatthewWiddison 3 years ago 3
Rashaed, why would you kill her? Dude, that's cold-blooded. I know it's just a game, but if you don't get an immediate emotionally negative response from killing an unarmed and helpless assailant, even in virtual form, that's just fucked up.
When I first played KoTOR I was completely floored at my response to the moral decisions you're forced to make. I thought I would be an ice-cold killa but the complete opposite happened (except the bastard sith who deserved it, fuck those evil bitches).
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago
If you don't kill her she will show up in UNATCO all cocky again. Besides she a homicidal fanatic.
Rashaed 3 years ago
She is redeemable. Just wait till after the Helios merger and her irrationality will disappear. Plus she hasn't actually killed anyone as far as we know, even though she was about to kill the main character i.e. you.
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago
I suppose she could be redeemed but still didn't appreciate what Apostlecorp gave her. Plus, she still killed members of Apostlecorp for the Templars in Cairo and Trier(Black Gate).
Rashaed 3 years ago
I didn't see any evidence of her specifically killing anyone, I'll have to pay closer attention my next time through. I was just so shocked that someone enjoyed killing one of my favorite characters from the game.
Lin May Chen, Dumier, DuClare, and Saman, on the other hand...
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago
Remember she went through the teleporter by leading the attack on the Black Gate. Alex said "she single handed took down Apostlecorp." Best case scenario she is an accessory. I expected her to not join anyone since they all lied one way or another. But to join the worst group of them all is unforgivable.
Rashaed 3 years ago
That's starting to ring a bell. You were right, she did kill some niggas.
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Daedalusdx 3 years ago
If you plant mines beside where she spawns,she goes down quick.I like punching her unconscious,but I agree with Renji 1,I liked Billie too and wanted to be able to join her,I usually put a cap in JC anyway.Who wants to violate every man woman and child on the planet with nanites anyway?
JosephMelia 3 years ago
I don't see why. She has the biggest ego out of all the trainees (yes even bigger than Leo). She joined the religious fanatics that hated her kind just to continue to compete with Alex. Billie is the cunt. And if you want to know who was for with JC Denton, then read the comments on the JC Denton vids. people are drawn to the idea of equality as oppose to more war.
Rashaed 3 years ago
Cos she's doable.
JosephMelia 3 years ago 3
Thanks for the backup. Even if you think Billies thinking was irrational, of then Leo's was really just as bad, at the opposite end to Billie's ideas. He also wanted to go one up on all the other trainees, only this time by going a step beyond the biomods by joining the Omar, which as he finds out towards the end of the game, isn't the best choice and the Omar didn't take too kindly to him having second thoughts.
Renji1 3 years ago
I don't really think you can say that anyones ideologies in the game were completely
irrational - this wasn't meant to be the kind of game where any one person could be seen as totally right or wrong. That would have made it too easy to pick an ending. Hopefully, come DX3, there will be a bit more freedom of choice. As will be expected these days, of course... Oh, and the use of such vulgar words renders your points null and void, Rashaed. :)
Renji1 3 years ago
Slow down you. I was using JosephMelia word. He called Leo a pompous cunt. Does that render his points null and void?
Anyways, I know that there are no "good guys" in IW. I didn't care that Billie joined the Order, it was her joining the Templars. There was nothing good about them. The Templars ending is just as depressing as the ending where you kill everyone. At least the WTO was attempting to help people even though they would maintain disparity. I'll pick the "pure democracy" any day.
Rashaed 3 years ago
Thank you! This is what miffed me in this game - a promise of moral ambiguity erased with half of the factions (Omar & Templars) being clearly bad/disturbing. The Omar at least proved occasionally useful - they sold weapons & mods - but the Templars, who could've had valid points on the futility of a technologic arms race or radical reworking of every human system on the planet, were reduced to homicidal fanatics. Their only good thing was their dialog when they got shot: Baphomet preserve me!
HisLordshipTheOwl 3 years ago
Or set them on fire!
Rashaed 3 years ago
"Oh, and the use of such vulgar words renders your points null and void, Rashaed."
I pretty much agree with you on everything except that fucking ridiculous statement. Style over substance fallacy means you lose with that point.
JC is GAWD and Billie rocks her bod.
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago
Style over substance? What planet are we on here? Alas, of course, I wasn't really trying to be stylish. Anyway, I still stand by my point, regardless of how ridiculous you may find it...:)
Speaking of wanting to head out into game with the intention of being an all round nasty type and then failing, I thought I would have done just that in Mass Effect. However, thanks to those clever game designers, I just didn't have it in me to be mean to my fellow crew members!
Renji1 3 years ago
No, dude, you obviously don't understand the style over substance fallacy. Either that or I'm misunderstanding you.
Example: "fucking 2 plus fucking 2 equals fucking 4"
The fact that 3 "fucks" are inserted gratuitously into that statement does not in any way invalidate said statement. Just because you don't like the style of an assertion does not mean that the assertion is wrong.
BoozyBeggar 3 years ago 2
Haha. If you haven't seen the video already, search for "hydrogen vs boost freestyle rap". This comment really reminds me of it.
SHKEVE 3 years ago
What's wrong with universal biomodification anyway? All it would do is raise everyone to perfect physical and mental health, and make their needs and desires known to the Helios AI to better administrate the world. A world without disease, poverty, and war is much preferable to the Illuminati's neo-aristocracy.
Sylux777 3 years ago 5
The templars think it it morally wrong to "play god" (stupid i know, but that's typical with fanatics.)
NutNapalm 3 years ago
I wasn't talking about the Templars' views on biomods; it was in response to JosephMelia's comment on how JC wanted to "violate" everyone on the planet with nanites.
Sylux777 3 years ago
While I agree with that you also have to admit that in the end it all boils down to a question of opinion.
JC Denton's ending was my favorite by far, it would take humanity to a whole new level, one where we would evolve as a single entity while retaining free will at the same time.
Choominator 2 years ago
It is indeed a question of opinion; In fact, the choices that you face to shape the future in IW mirror the ones in the original DX: You can help the world take a step foward (Merge with Helios/help JC), maintain the status quo of capitalism and democracy (Assist the Illuminati in both games), or bring about an age of anarchy (Destroy Area 51/Kill all faction leaders). Of course, Invisible War also gives you the option of siding with the villains, something that was sorely missing in Deus Ex.
Sylux777 2 years ago
Not even a single entity. JC himself said "Life will go on as usual". They are linked to Helios, not assimilated to him. That's why this ending has no freakin' drawbacks AT ALL.
SaturnineXTS 2 years ago 23
You should go watch Equilibrium.
MahajiHaji 2 years ago
@SaturnineXTS That explains the ominous music they play during the ending
sirfreakish 5 months ago
@sirfreakish
I think it's food for thought. But I didn't find it overly ominous to be honest.
SaturnineXTS 5 months ago
Hmm, this is the one part of this game that really annoyed me. I actually liked Billie as a character (she had more character than your other fellow agents and wasn't an ass like that Leo), so it really ticked me off that the game forced you into killing her. Actually when I got to this point, I ran away from this fight. Since this was meant to be a game about choice, I found a tad jarring when you didn't get the choice to go along with Billie's way of thinking.
Renji1 3 years ago 2
Billies' was thinking was totally irrational. At least Leo wouldn't join a side that hated him for just being modified.
Rashaed 3 years ago
At 0:56 the glass tube on the left, theres where alex was created, you can see him being made and his infolink in Deus Ex 1
Xardas5 3 years ago
Alex and Billie seem to look a bit more detailed than normally. Did you use a "texture patch" or sth else??
TheThiKim1 3 years ago
Credit goes to Koif for his texture pack mod. He did most of his work on the Seattle enclave.
Rashaed 3 years ago
Check out my Deus Ex: Invisible War Tour to see more of it.
Rashaed 3 years ago
So, Billie adams become the member of the templars. You can avoid confrontation here if you want but she'll reappear in the final level (liberty island). If you accomplished some missions to the templar and they're your friends on the final level Billie won't attack you. If you're the foe of the templars she'll attack you automatically. That time you can simply avoid her if you want but you can also kill her.
PoisonZomby 3 years ago
What a bunch of hypocrites!They hate biomodification but they know they can't win without it. I understood the Order but the Templars were completely nuts.
Rashaed 3 years ago
The templars can exist without biomods... They knew they have no chance against modified troops (like chad dumier's illuminati commando) so they used their gold supply and made a powered armor (exoskeleton) to their troops. With it they're about as hard as a modified soldier, but inside their armor they remain human...
PoisonZomby 3 years ago
I wasn't talking about the Armored Templars; I know they were human. I was referring to them using Billie Adams and trying to recruit Alex D.
Rashaed 3 years ago
Yes, you're right. I simply forgot that they wanted to use Alex D too.
But thre's another thing: If the player helps the Templars and they win they spread a virus called nanite strain what killes all augmented person in the world. It's a really cruel thing since an augmented soldier win them the war...
PoisonZomby 3 years ago
if you kill her or if you don't this will change something inside the story of the game?
patriota54 3 years ago
No, it doesn't. You can go through the game without killing any person but there is no reward for doing so.
Rashaed 3 years ago
When I played this I knocked her out (I was playing with a zero-casualty objective to challenge myself) but I did not see her reappear later in the game, nor did anyone really mention her later (aside from a bit from JC says about intolarence shortly after this.)
FearlessSon 3 years ago
Goddammit, Billie...
LlamasOnCrack 3 years ago
If you leave her like this, you get to fight her again later, or if you are suicidal enough to join Saman she talks to you about how you made the right choice and history will see you and her as heroes and saints.
EpoBot 3 years ago
This time she didn't show up at UNATCO because she is dead. If I left her unconscious, then she would be there.
I never played the game for the Templars. Just for the Order Church for a while.
Rashaed 3 years ago
she has a deathwish by just standing there.
rikhanz 3 years ago 2
HEADSHOT!
C4pwner 3 years ago 2
LOL
MikeShinodasFan 3 years ago
how come she just stood there? lol
chengda85 4 years ago 2
When an enemies health bar is drained toward death (or unconsciousness), they drop their weapon assume that 'surrender' pose. I just love it when Billie does it.
Rashaed 4 years ago
So it's the same when enemies ran away in the first game, right?
julounin 4 years ago
Yeah. Sometimes they run in this game too. But since each area is pretty small they cant get far.
Rashaed 4 years ago