its been reported that he intended to destroy classical music. He hated Bach and mozart. His intention was to make the listener go insane. What says you?
@MYTHIRDSHADOW I would doubt he hated Bach. Bach was German. Wagner just thought he was the best composer of all time. He loved Beethoven, but I'm sure he thought himself better than him.
@genmaximus110 Which he obviously was. I won;t knock the classical period, and some of Bach's cello suites are divine....but Wagner is infinitely better than him, both in talent and the sheer scale of his works.
@genmaximus110 And do not forget that he learned a lot from Liszt in the sense of the harmony. In that case, Liszt was better than him (it is reported that his last works have something of the dodecaphonic period), but Wagner took what he needed for himself.
@genmaximus110 wagner loves bach! he praises bach and beethoven!, actually he was modest, my god!, please READ the letters and his literature before ¬¬.. . richard spent hours copying the scores of Beethoven symphony with too much love, and occasionally get frustrated because their "melodies" were not as good as Beethoven.
@MYTHIRDSHADOW Well Wagner said once that Don Giovanni was the most perfect thing ever created by the hand of man, and himself did a revision of the score (now lost) for a performance in 1850 so I doubt that he hated Wolfgang. He hated Mendelssohn and Meyerbeer.
@genmaximus110 I have just finished Gotterdämmerung (Karl Böhm), and I have to say that this is the most different thing I have heard in all my life, and I do not know people that really like Wagner the way I like this music... Anyway, I would like you to tell me what biography do you recommend?
@Danlovar Truly, a great biography of Wagner's life would be the television miniseries called "Wagner" starring Richard Burton. It shows it all, the good and the bad, very truthful to his life.
@Danlovar Truly, a great biography is the television miniseries called "Wagner" starring Richard Burton. It's very truthful to his life, the good, the bad, and the ugly. I highly recommend it for Wagner fans to get a glimpse into his life.
You're welcome. I'm glad to be able to share. Wagner did so much in the way of opera that it was a gem indeed to find such a beautifully subtle piece as this.
This is a rarely-heard piece, unjustly so. Amazing! It needs to be performed and recorded more. A minor masterpiece.
wagnerian1979 1 year ago
i love this SO MUCH
babyBELUGAr 1 year ago
that is one hell of a neckbeard
pickednads6 1 year ago
@pickednads6: it's not a beard; and it's not polite to stare.
RHutton2710 11 months ago
its been reported that he intended to destroy classical music. He hated Bach and mozart. His intention was to make the listener go insane. What says you?
MYTHIRDSHADOW 1 year ago
@MYTHIRDSHADOW I would doubt he hated Bach. Bach was German. Wagner just thought he was the best composer of all time. He loved Beethoven, but I'm sure he thought himself better than him.
genmaximus110 1 year ago 2
@genmaximus110 Which he obviously was. I won;t knock the classical period, and some of Bach's cello suites are divine....but Wagner is infinitely better than him, both in talent and the sheer scale of his works.
witness124 11 months ago
@genmaximus110 And do not forget that he learned a lot from Liszt in the sense of the harmony. In that case, Liszt was better than him (it is reported that his last works have something of the dodecaphonic period), but Wagner took what he needed for himself.
Danlovar 8 months ago
@genmaximus110 wagner loves bach! he praises bach and beethoven!, actually he was modest, my god!, please READ the letters and his literature before ¬¬.. . richard spent hours copying the scores of Beethoven symphony with too much love, and occasionally get frustrated because their "melodies" were not as good as Beethoven.
raticida123456 7 months ago
@MYTHIRDSHADOW wagner loves bach! he praises bach, please READ the letters and his literature before ¬¬
raticida123456 7 months ago
@raticida123456 Thank you, indeed I will.
MYTHIRDSHADOW 7 months ago
@MYTHIRDSHADOW Well Wagner said once that Don Giovanni was the most perfect thing ever created by the hand of man, and himself did a revision of the score (now lost) for a performance in 1850 so I doubt that he hated Wolfgang. He hated Mendelssohn and Meyerbeer.
sas147741 4 months ago
cosmic harmony mmm ooo and so sentimental!! nostalgic!!! intoxicating!!
raticida123456 1 year ago
Peaceful, After riding with the walkyres and
fighting wrongdoers....ah, Wagner had a way to calm the beast within us...let us not
forget the spiritual effect of "forest murmers."
ardealmare 2 years ago 3
True, my friend!!!
marcusghealloit 2 years ago
Wagner is my favourite composer. His opera works are the greatest.
89murph 2 years ago 11
They are quite something, aren't they? Wagner is truly a composer of epic proportions.
genmaximus110 2 years ago 2
@genmaximus110 I have just finished Gotterdämmerung (Karl Böhm), and I have to say that this is the most different thing I have heard in all my life, and I do not know people that really like Wagner the way I like this music... Anyway, I would like you to tell me what biography do you recommend?
Thank you.
Danlovar 6 months ago
@Danlovar Truly, a great biography of Wagner's life would be the television miniseries called "Wagner" starring Richard Burton. It shows it all, the good and the bad, very truthful to his life.
genmaximus110 5 months ago
@Danlovar Truly, a great biography is the television miniseries called "Wagner" starring Richard Burton. It's very truthful to his life, the good, the bad, and the ugly. I highly recommend it for Wagner fans to get a glimpse into his life.
genmaximus110 5 months ago
Thank you for this.
tannenbergbund 3 years ago 5
You're welcome. I'm glad to be able to share. Wagner did so much in the way of opera that it was a gem indeed to find such a beautifully subtle piece as this.
genmaximus110 3 years ago
gut richard
comicstadt 3 years ago 4
Beautiful!
pureimagination4747 3 years ago 5