From a dig the AWD has the total advantage. Hp. does't enter into it. The stage 2 is putting out about 270 hp. and is lighter, the tunned EVO over 300 easy. Even a stage 3 would get beat from a dig, from a roll it might be a good race. I got a 2011 3dr GTI, APR stage 1. BTW the GTI is still the better car. Slower, but better!
evos will beat any car within the price range I have an 07 gti I love it but an evo would poop all over my car. It even beats an sti. I don't know about a modded sti but stock definetley.
@sodazman They are two totally different types of cars so that doesn't really mean much. AWD will always beat out FWD for racing applications but a stage 2 GTI will hang with a stock evo if not pulling on it from a roll. Yeah stock vs modded but consider the price tag difference anyway. A stage 3 GTI would put up a better showing. Also ludedude007 you could not be more wrong about those trap times.
omg that evo is so gorgeous I miss mine so much white evo's are the way to go if you want sexy, affordable, and fast not saying the color makes it faster just saying damn they are something to look at and drool if you are losing to it
The Evo is a great car for massive bursts of speed, definitely faster than a GTI for the money, and that scales. But the GTI is so much nicer. I would dread a 1,500 mile road trip in an Evo, but it's a breeze in the GTI. It all depends on what you're looking for, the Evo is a specialty car that does one thing really well, while the GTI is a good car all around.
Seriously guys, i have a 2010 GTI stage 2, you are stupid if you think we can take a big turbo evo like that lol. Now if you wanna argue money the evo is way more expensive (unless you buy used) gti base is 22500 evo base is above 30 for sure (not sure the number) put 6 grand in the GTI for the APR stage 3 conversion and it would walk on this evo (sorry evo fans) but VW guys dont get happy because if the evo put 6 grand in his car too say bye bye GTI is great but its not the fastest.
This video is fake for anyone who gives a shit....dont get me wrong...any evo with any mods will beat a stg 2 vw....but you have to realize the evo turbo is like twice the size...put a k04 on a vw FMIC fuel pump intake and tbe...with a tune...the vdub would rape....and if you want to break it down more that makes the cars truly "equal" seeing as tho engine size and turbo size are now the same...plus even with those mods the vdub is WAY cheaper than a new Evo....
@alexptry So then what exactly makes this video "fake"?! The fact that Mitsubishi built a better car from the factory then Volkswagen did? Get a life loser. Evo's aren't more expensive just because they are faster in a straight line. They are balanced AWD cars people use for racing. Not FWD hatchback economy box's that have a little pep from their turbo, which is the size of a baseball.
Cry to Jokeswagen why they gave you a turbo so small. Not me.
@ludedude077 even if the vw's came with a bigger turbo, they are still front wheel drive and front end heavy so it wouldnt even matter lol. take it from me, i had a dsm, (loved it til i blew it up) figured id try soemthing new, i liked the looks of the GLI, so i got one, and first off, they arent that bad of a car, just cant compare it to an evo. the 1.8t motor just isnt nearly as mod friendly as a 4g63 motor. so right there is what really kills the volkswagens.
@ludedude077 your response had literally nothing to do with what i said...and as for using a evo for racing...look up any video anywhere stock GTIs stock beat evos on any track besides the drag strip...so sucks for your precious evo...i never knocked the evo at all...my point is its a 40grand street tuner... people put these cars on a pedestal when they're really nothing as special as people say...buy the GTI save 15 grand...put 15 grand into its performance and you'll have a 400hp car
@alexptry Stop tarding up my friends video, dude. Nobody cares about your bias opinion of what you think the Evo is. Just shows your experience, honestly.
Yah dude but if you're thinking about spending 15 grand to make 400whp. That's WAY to much money. 3-6 grand is the real ball park number to hit 400whp. APR is the shit for the 1.8T but that's a huge rip off in price.
I make 300awhp with intake and exhaust on my evo. My 1.8T had a borgwarner K04 and manifold, almost full bolt-ons and I suspected it to be around 230-240ish
Yeah but the new GTIs (2006+) can be put to 400HP with less than 6.5 grand (installed) APR stage 3 kit is 5 grand and on 100 oct fuel puts 400HP to the crank WHP numbers around 370s i dont remember wheel tq numbers tho. And for less than 1 grand you can make the GTI stage 2 and im currently stage 2 putting down 260 to the wheels and around 290 on the crank. Bang for your buck is the GTI any day, it just will never be the fastest car. It appeals to the more mature driver.
We are not talking about the 2.0T FSI. But if i wanted to argue, I would argue those engines are known for burning up to 1quart of oil every 1k miles. Look up VWOA and see that is with in spec.
Bang for your buck has never been the GTI. 1 grand if sorted correctly and I'm looking up to 350whp in my evo. The FSI is a strong motor but both the 1.8T and FSI fall short when it comes to internals.
For 5g's, a honda S2K can make 550-700whp daily driven on stock bottom end.
Um i think you have jumped the gun here, of course you can drop 5k in a few diff cars to make 400WHP but a brand new evo is 30+ grand a brand new GTI is 24 grand, 6k in GTI is 400 WHP and 2 grand in your evo makes 400 WHP im still 2 grand cheaper than you on a bad day, and my interior is 10x better... We can play the mod game BS all day long, the cheapest car to get to 400 HP brand new out of the ones listed is GTI. And the TSI motor is amazing...do your research.
I've done my research more than enough to know to not buy a money pit known as a VW. I've owned way to damn many VW's. If u want to dog the Evo's interior the X has very nice interior!! Second your GTI is wrong wheel drive. Don't be a fan boy. Did I ever mention anything about a TSI? No i did not. The evo is superior. I'll spend my extra 2-4 grand to have functional rear wheels thank you. Not to mention my car is 10x easier to work on bud.
The FSI motor had cam follower issues and fuel pump issues, that was a bad engine design, but in 09 they started the TSI and the TSI engine is an amazingly engineered motor. Evos are nice. i like them, they are quicker than a GTI hands down, they will always be quicker, put 4k in an EVO and 4 k in a GTI the EVO still wins, no one can argue that. But if you are looking for a car to put 400hp down for cheap and still have a sick interior, GTI wins hands down.
Yes I totally agree with you on that. The interior on VW's always seem to be a little ahead of their time and look very nice especially for the price.
@alexptry You're retarded if you think the only reason the Evo was pulling is because the GTI "LET OFF". LMAO! At one point in the video the Evo puts it in 3rd gear from like 35mph and the GTI goes down to 2nd gear, and even still the GTI can't stay even!
Tuned Evo vs a tuned GTI MKV is like Men and Boys. On a road course, auto cross, circuit track, drag strip, dirt road, lol.
One's a 102mph trap car with a tune and bolt-ons...The others a low 12 second car trapping ~ 112-115mph. Not close
@alexptry cool fucking story bro, that's the story of any car with mods. "OMG MY CAR WITH A FATTY TURBO AND A BUILT MOTOR COULD TAKE OUT A GTR!!!1!!!11!1" No shit, if you're not a retard this is common sense...
@Nebrida23 you're an idiot...when did i say i had a vw first off 2nd off evos are 40 grand tuner cars...they're great cars but who wants a 40 grand japanese toy? no one.
@GraphicFrost base price for new evo = 37 for MR...your 17.5 evo is old and a brand new gti = 20 and you put 15g into a gti...6gs for stage 3 kit plus 1g FMIC and 1gHPFP 1gnew clutch assuming m/t 2g decent wheels and 1g good suspension to get the power to the ground...1g for TBE....sorry 13? plus instal for everything? ya thanks il always go german over these jap POS's who wants a 60k used evo that will blow up in 1 year? you're an idiot
@Nebrida23 This same bolt-on Evo actually ran a fully built, big turbo/meth GLI. But the videos on street fire so I don't think it will let me post it here.
Pretty good runs if you ever get the chance to search for it on street fire
My K04 1.8T was weak sauce.. Rape? Seriously? Good luck getting to 250whp with boltons like that and that's even with a good k04. No turbo upgrade and ur looking at 300awhp with just a tune in the evo.
Now don't get me wrong the GTI is a really nice car. My little bro lives with me and I've driven his car hundreds of times and worked on it many. He has a 07 GTI fully loaded.
I've owned many VW's and the only one I've kept out of the bunch is my 1979 16v 1.8L PL Scirocco S.
Ok i LOVE both cars, but when you say that the evo will have better 1/4 mile times than ANY built gti is irrelevant. No hating here, but the Evo is AWD, and the Gti is FWD...You might have a 500 hp evo running in the low 11's, but there are 700hp b18 powered FWD civics that run the same.... Its comparing apples to oranges in a car sense....Anyway, about the vid, it obviously is true. A "Reflash" could mean anything...
@Nebrida23 True true, but it could have different engine results relating to psi, fuel/air, etc etc.....I'm just saying that you could have a reflash with a mild tune, or a reflash with a race tune.
Unless the Evo is your buddy, I don't see the point of this race. Stock the Evo would probably still kill an STG2 GTI, unless the driver is retarded, so with all the mods this one has, you had no chance (well, maybe if he was getting a BJ at the time)
I have an STG2 GTI and I dont' waste time with EVOs, since they are NEVER stock around here.
i love both cars for different reasons. There is no comparison between these cars its apples and oranges. thats why reviews always compares evo's to sti's and gti's to speed3's and civic si's.
track/racing - evo wins.
spirited driving/cruises/work/dinner/long trips/fit &finish, actually anything else that is not solely speed and traction based - GTI wins.
and if you really need speed too, buy a gti and a bike,
gti vs evo is no match up lol i have a gti and love it but its a lil fwd hatch they are quick when tuned and all but until fully built im talkin like gutted big turbo cams pistons the works wont stay with a tuned evo . . then you build an evo and its over . . they just arent in the same class put that evo against a tuned sti or maybe an s4 or something more in the same class of car. vw does get the ladies tho so idc
Thats why the GTI is my preferred choice. However, I do like the EVO, but you will not catch me paying 38k plus for a Mitsubishi - I will spend a few more bucks and get a 135i or audi TTS -
Love the GTI's - great cars - and have THE BEST cabin qualities you can buy at their price - but unless you fully strip the car and rebuild it than the EVO is always going to be the faster car unless your are racing stock to highly tuned which in essence is not fair or even reasonable to compare. Both car have better traits than the other. I prefer a really sporty car and a high amount of luxury.
@mmonroe23 What turbo do you have on the stage 3 kit? K04? Or gt28?
If you have a k04 you'd definitely be able to beat a stock Evo 9 from a roll, but from a dig he'd probably still run a quicker 1/4 mile time. And once he starts modding it's game over for your car. Those cars can see 120+ traps still on a stock turbo!
If you have some kind of special build then anythings possible. But there are stock turbo Evo's in this world that are faster then the fastest 'built, big turbo' GTI MKV's.
@ludedude077 It would be faster off the line, but the STG3 would catch up. STG3 numbers are insane. Plus, with the STG3, the GTI will probably still be cheaper than a new Evo.
@cubanbrew the evo is a better all around car no matter what, who cares about the price new, a used evo isnt all the expensive, so with price out of the equation, the evo beats the gti in everything but MPG and ride comfort, but who the fuck cares, most people that mod their VW's end up making the ride harsh because it makes the car better. it is WAY cheaper and easier to mod an evo, therefore making it a friendly car, what is the gti good at? being front end heavy and being front wheel drive.
schulman fuck you and ur vw shitcars german fag you don't know shit a golf is a piece of shit that you see on the road every 10 sec driven by people that don't care what they drive in it's a piece of shit that does not stand out like an evo so there is no need to compare your shitgolf will eat dust vs an evo german fag called fritzel
im a vw dude like no other, but you cant even say a gti come CLOSE to an evo as far as performance. and if you put the same amount of upgrades/mods on each car, the evo will still come out on top. its better than the gti STOCK, obviously itll still be better upgraded... no contest. give respect where its due guys.
I don't have a problem being wrong just bring your evo out let's have it an the looser buys drinks I haven't been beat buy anything stock or light mods if you think your evos fast bring it out we can record that an put it on YouTube forget going back an forth on here
I feel you. But It's not my Evo. And I'm in Florida or else I'm sure the guy would be down to show you the difference - as it is quite significant.
The best I can do for you is say watch this video. This is an APR stage 2 GTi with supporting mods (no meth or fuel pump). This GTI has gone to the track and run his car. The best he ever got with these mods was 13.8@103mph.
This Evo when it was STOCK bro went 12.9@107mph!
With a tune and bolt-ons they are much faster. 12.0-12.2ish @ 110-112mph
I have a stage 2 mkv gti an the only bolt ons I have are dp,cai an iv beat srt4s with bc an bolt ons an sti's an evos this YouTube shit is so phoney if you believe what you see on here you might as well watch wwf cuz this shit is fake come to baltimore an run up on me with an evo see what happens
Sorry buddy, but you couldn't be more wrong. You do realize evo's with bolt-ons and a tune will run in the low 12's trapping around 110-112? The same Intake, turbo-back exhaust, and chip mods your GTI has turn Evo's into low - mid 12 second cars that trap ~ 110-112mph. Your basic stage 2 GTI would be lucky to trap @ 102-103mph on a good day.
You guys just must have some sloooow cars in Baltimore.
EVOs are great track cars, no questions. However VW focuses on the overall value of the car, with plush interiors and super driving feel. And you can't pull up to a formal event in a Mitsubishi, like you can in a VW. If you want a fast engine with wheels on a "pepsi" can get an EVO, If you want to sacrafice that for more luxury, get a VW. If you don't like either, TAKE THE BUS!
Um...before any of you talk trash about VW and how there's NO GTI that can keep up with this Evo, why don't you look at the 700hp GTI "1.8t" that's on youtube or really anything over 500hp that was built with around 10-15k. That GTI "1.8t" would smoke this Evo so bad that the owner of the Evo would probably sell his car. The only thing that would destroy a 700hp gti is a Bugatti or high end Ferrari, otherwise stop making the Evo more than it really is.
Dude, it's a STOCK turbo Evo and you want to unleash a 700whp GTI on it?? LMAO.
I'll say it again, STOCK TURBO.
If the Evo starts going for big power, there's nothing the Volkswagen GTI can do about it. It's no match brotha. You could go mod for mod with ANY GTI in the WORLD and it will still get raped in EVERY witch direction by an equally modded Evo.
There are Evo's that would rape Bugatti's. What kind of Evo's do you know?
Your making the GTI more than what it is. A 700 HP GTI would have traction issues, and if it didn't it's because you would have several inches of drag radials sticking out of each size. 700 HP you are talking GT40r turbo You would never see power until around 5.5K and even with a built head you probably won't be going past 8500. 3K worth of powerband! The Evo is nice, stop trying to discredit it by saying shit like "Oh well if it raced the Dahlback Golf it would lose!"
@kingplaya Dahlbacks GTI was AWD not FWD. My stock 02 GTI will chirp gears with a set of all seasons. The GTI is a nice car and I love mine to death, but it isn't built up on rally based technology like the EVO. EVO is a perfect track car and race car. Aside from the high insurance premiums if I had the money I'd check one out. For now my GTI is great for car shows and some runs.
That EVO 9 has what a tdo5hr 16g in it? LOL compared to a K03S ... It would have been more interesting to see a stock EVO 9 vs the the Stage 2 K03S or even a K04 at Stage 2 but up against a chipped EVO 9 there's no chance.
Oneofakindtrini, chill out. GTI didnt spend anymore then 2000 for what he has under his hood. And GTI isnt a piece of shit. I have an 09 GLI and have the exact same stuff under my hood as this GTI except for the Forge DIverter Valve. and i have 280hp and 340 torque. VW are the best. Germen Engineering make the best cars. Fuck the ricy EVO shit. and my friend Vanessa is a girl and her evo is making 450 whp. but shes spoiled as fuck. lol
oneofakinidtrini.... you are an idiot... yes they are both 2L turbo... but they are completly different types of 2 Liters. also the Evo's turbocharger is like 2x bigger than the GTI's k03... so in all fairness the GTI did well considering how tiny its turbo is ...
If that's good, I'd hate to see what bad looks like to you..
So we should feel bad for the 2.0L turbo because it went up against another 2.0L turbo? I don't get it.
If you were saying an F/I 2.0L to an All motor 2.0L I could understand. But two 2-Litre turbocharged cars that weigh pretty similar? Sorry. But it's not the Evo's fault the GTi has a turbo the size of a baseball. Run what you brung!
Ahahaha.. What engine difference? They were both turbo 2liters. Don't be mad the jap's can make fast econoboxes. lol EVO FTw! And the evo only has bolt-ons
dude are you seriously that retarded?? EVO = more money, 80+ more HP stock, awd, compared to a GTI. do some homework, cuz that GTi is probly puttin up around 270-280 hp? and the EVO with all the is puttin around 330+?? and stock for stock the GTI is a better "econobox" gas mileage, price etc..
Dude. Shut the fuck up. You have no clue what your talking about. The evo has bolt ons. No walboro 255. So it can't be making 320awhp. Ok and they are both 4 cylinder 2liter turbo. Don't get upset japan knows how to make power. The vw is a weak piece of shit. The apr kit cost atleast 5grand and it can't run with a evo with less than 2grand in bolt on parts. And the ecu in the vw is reflashed. Go get knowledgeable at evom or stay riding your bike ok. It's ok you can cry a bit now.
there are gtis that take on supercars very well. gti with apr software took on a r8 was with him the whole time. and mk6s are coming out soon we'll surpass all evos stis and zs
That makes a huge difference on how a car can perform. In my opinion, its stupid to put so much power in a fwd car. I own a mk5 gti and I love it to death, but I will admit, if you are looking for a high performance racing beast, the gti isnt your best candidate...
The R8 traps ~ 110-111mph. I wouldn't mention that car in the same breath as a SUPER car. Look's wise, yes. But far from supercar performance. There are stock cars that trap in the 120's.
yeah, what does it matter how many mods we do, or if the factory does it. That's the only difference here, the evo comes tuned by the factory to get all that power, GTI's needs to be tuned. It's all the same to me isn't it?
I'm a GTi owner, nd I dont think that my GTi is the fastest turbo car out there. Nd I know we probably cant beat an EVo. Their turbos are probably about 2 times bigger than ours nd they run like 10 psi more than we do. I dont kno what you have against v-dubs buddy. There actually really nice cars. They may not be as fast as te evo, but there still awesome cars
stock evo can kiss gtis ass ,y is every evo guy thinking that evos are sooooo fast ,i got stage 2 apr and thios gti was not even stage 1 or this evo got some bolts on
anyone who has a mkv chiped with a downpipe should know or know that a reflashed evo will never pull on a mkv not when its chipped unless the evo has a boost controler along with few bolt-ons!! i would pay that evo guy to race me i have a chipped gti and raced lots and lots of evo lost to many and beat many so i know !!
What?!?! Are you kidding me? Probably one of the dumbest post on youtube, and that says a lot!
A reflashed Evo 9 with a couple bolt-ons is a low low 12 second car trapping in the teens! Your "chipped" (lmao) GTI MKV is exactly where with a DP?? This evo could be stock and it would still rape that GTI.
I am a GTI owner also, and I definitely know that I wouldn't be able to put up a fight with an Evo even if I was chipped, had a full exhaust system, intake, and all these little mods that may shave off a second on the 0-60 time. You need to do REAL upgrades to take an Evo. GT3071r would do the trick. 7k including labor and you're good to go.
yea, those mkv's are pigs compared to the mkIV.. my gti can hang with stock evo's and its chipped, 3" tb, 007dv.. but thats pushin it.. and i seem to fall farther behind the faster we go.. damn box designs lol
Yea agreed. I have a 2005 Evo VIII and before i got the Ams gt35r turbo kit, Ams fuel injectors and a bottom end rebuild i was running around 390 to the crank with a reflash, a turbo back exhaust, and a hks mega flow intake. And my friend has a gti mkv with a stage 2 kit and it was always pretty close maybe 3 to 5 car pull but now with a bigger turbo and bottom end it puts me close to 600 awhp and its no match i pull on him hard at least 10 to 15 cars But the mkv's are still fun to drive!
you really should know how to pick a fight! i have an 04 audi tt 225 chipped, apr r1 dv, dv relocate, dog bone mount, intake and exhaust and i sill know not to race an evo!!! haha it like going to the track with a single cam civic and racing a vet! just dose not work.......
LOL Bro Evo's IX with MBC, Drop in Filter, and TurboBack, is an easy low 12's second car trapping around 108 to 110 mph just those simple mods would kill ur stock turbo GTi that would neve trap those times with the stock turbo and even on meth ,u would need a lot more than that... Evo's are superior and sorry Budy but that's a fact .. Bring Us Ur GTi .. and we'll show YOU LOL
I don't know why they don't understand this. They seem to think the Evo's are over rated, yet The fastest stock turbo GTI MKV in the WORLD runs a 13.0@107mph. That's full bolt-on with meth and on DR's.
And that's the only 1. The next fastest guy is a good bit behind him too.
If you want to play with even a lightly bolted on Evo ix, the GTI is going to need a bigger turbo.
I'll take both kind sir!
gabe123c 1 month ago
holy shit you guys got walked, AWD is a killer. good race though, and i dont mean any dislike toward gti's im a big fan of both!
4x108Dtec 1 month ago
Lag! Gti is still better car. Evo is sick. Eh I like both. But I'll take Gti
papayspeanut 2 months ago
From a dig the AWD has the total advantage. Hp. does't enter into it. The stage 2 is putting out about 270 hp. and is lighter, the tunned EVO over 300 easy. Even a stage 3 would get beat from a dig, from a roll it might be a good race. I got a 2011 3dr GTI, APR stage 1. BTW the GTI is still the better car. Slower, but better!
vdccsr 5 months ago
evos will beat any car within the price range I have an 07 gti I love it but an evo would poop all over my car. It even beats an sti. I don't know about a modded sti but stock definetley.
Joshua4599 5 months ago
shoulda got revo
rxkw 8 months ago
It's very impressive to see how much power the evo has, the gti is trying to go away but it can't evo stands up and burns him.
samy916 8 months ago
@sodazman They are two totally different types of cars so that doesn't really mean much. AWD will always beat out FWD for racing applications but a stage 2 GTI will hang with a stock evo if not pulling on it from a roll. Yeah stock vs modded but consider the price tag difference anyway. A stage 3 GTI would put up a better showing. Also ludedude007 you could not be more wrong about those trap times.
M1K3YM0 9 months ago
omg that evo is so gorgeous I miss mine so much white evo's are the way to go if you want sexy, affordable, and fast not saying the color makes it faster just saying damn they are something to look at and drool if you are losing to it
DcEvoIX 9 months ago
wow you can hear and see how powerful the Evo is when the turbo kicks in
hatakashi1900 9 months ago
GTIs are nice cars but Evos will smash it any day - acceleration, cornering and braking.
sodazman 10 months ago
Evo sounds so sick ! 4g63t power !
EvosKillSubarus 10 months ago
Hey whats a Mbc ?
EvosKillSubarus 10 months ago
The Evo is a great car for massive bursts of speed, definitely faster than a GTI for the money, and that scales. But the GTI is so much nicer. I would dread a 1,500 mile road trip in an Evo, but it's a breeze in the GTI. It all depends on what you're looking for, the Evo is a specialty car that does one thing really well, while the GTI is a good car all around.
jsuttonus 1 year ago 8
VW owners should know beter then to race a evo
nik9655 1 year ago
@nik9655 I'm sure the stage 3 guys are shaking in their boots at the thought of racing an evo from a roll haha.
M1K3YM0 9 months ago
I have a GTi myself its a great car, but damn I'd much rather have an Evo anyday
xampx2k7 1 year ago
my 09 gti will poop on both of those slow cars
onesick302 1 year ago
Seriously guys, i have a 2010 GTI stage 2, you are stupid if you think we can take a big turbo evo like that lol. Now if you wanna argue money the evo is way more expensive (unless you buy used) gti base is 22500 evo base is above 30 for sure (not sure the number) put 6 grand in the GTI for the APR stage 3 conversion and it would walk on this evo (sorry evo fans) but VW guys dont get happy because if the evo put 6 grand in his car too say bye bye GTI is great but its not the fastest.
aaronsims17 1 year ago
This video is fake for anyone who gives a shit....dont get me wrong...any evo with any mods will beat a stg 2 vw....but you have to realize the evo turbo is like twice the size...put a k04 on a vw FMIC fuel pump intake and tbe...with a tune...the vdub would rape....and if you want to break it down more that makes the cars truly "equal" seeing as tho engine size and turbo size are now the same...plus even with those mods the vdub is WAY cheaper than a new Evo....
alexptry 1 year ago
@alexptry So then what exactly makes this video "fake"?! The fact that Mitsubishi built a better car from the factory then Volkswagen did? Get a life loser. Evo's aren't more expensive just because they are faster in a straight line. They are balanced AWD cars people use for racing. Not FWD hatchback economy box's that have a little pep from their turbo, which is the size of a baseball.
Cry to Jokeswagen why they gave you a turbo so small. Not me.
...oh but if my Volkswagen added this bs
ludedude077 1 year ago
@ludedude077 even if the vw's came with a bigger turbo, they are still front wheel drive and front end heavy so it wouldnt even matter lol. take it from me, i had a dsm, (loved it til i blew it up) figured id try soemthing new, i liked the looks of the GLI, so i got one, and first off, they arent that bad of a car, just cant compare it to an evo. the 1.8t motor just isnt nearly as mod friendly as a 4g63 motor. so right there is what really kills the volkswagens.
petoria0013 1 year ago
@ludedude077 your response had literally nothing to do with what i said...and as for using a evo for racing...look up any video anywhere stock GTIs stock beat evos on any track besides the drag strip...so sucks for your precious evo...i never knocked the evo at all...my point is its a 40grand street tuner... people put these cars on a pedestal when they're really nothing as special as people say...buy the GTI save 15 grand...put 15 grand into its performance and you'll have a 400hp car
alexptry 1 year ago
@alexptry Stop tarding up my friends video, dude. Nobody cares about your bias opinion of what you think the Evo is. Just shows your experience, honestly.
ludedude077 1 year ago
@alexptry
15grand to get 400hp? LoL You're so far off dude.
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@GraphicFrost stage3 100oct = 404hp...spend 4 more grand who knows the hp ratings...check out APR STAGE4 vids.
alexptry 1 year ago
@alexptry
Yah dude but if you're thinking about spending 15 grand to make 400whp. That's WAY to much money. 3-6 grand is the real ball park number to hit 400whp. APR is the shit for the 1.8T but that's a huge rip off in price.
I make 300awhp with intake and exhaust on my evo. My 1.8T had a borgwarner K04 and manifold, almost full bolt-ons and I suspected it to be around 230-240ish
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@GraphicFrost its 5 grand for the kit...dont touch suspension or wheels or anything else then there you go.
alexptry 1 year ago
@GraphicFrost
Yeah but the new GTIs (2006+) can be put to 400HP with less than 6.5 grand (installed) APR stage 3 kit is 5 grand and on 100 oct fuel puts 400HP to the crank WHP numbers around 370s i dont remember wheel tq numbers tho. And for less than 1 grand you can make the GTI stage 2 and im currently stage 2 putting down 260 to the wheels and around 290 on the crank. Bang for your buck is the GTI any day, it just will never be the fastest car. It appeals to the more mature driver.
aaronsims17 1 year ago
@aaronsims17
We are not talking about the 2.0T FSI. But if i wanted to argue, I would argue those engines are known for burning up to 1quart of oil every 1k miles. Look up VWOA and see that is with in spec.
Bang for your buck has never been the GTI. 1 grand if sorted correctly and I'm looking up to 350whp in my evo. The FSI is a strong motor but both the 1.8T and FSI fall short when it comes to internals.
For 5g's, a honda S2K can make 550-700whp daily driven on stock bottom end.
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@GraphicFrost
Um i think you have jumped the gun here, of course you can drop 5k in a few diff cars to make 400WHP but a brand new evo is 30+ grand a brand new GTI is 24 grand, 6k in GTI is 400 WHP and 2 grand in your evo makes 400 WHP im still 2 grand cheaper than you on a bad day, and my interior is 10x better... We can play the mod game BS all day long, the cheapest car to get to 400 HP brand new out of the ones listed is GTI. And the TSI motor is amazing...do your research.
aaronsims17 1 year ago
@aaronsims17
I've done my research more than enough to know to not buy a money pit known as a VW. I've owned way to damn many VW's. If u want to dog the Evo's interior the X has very nice interior!! Second your GTI is wrong wheel drive. Don't be a fan boy. Did I ever mention anything about a TSI? No i did not. The evo is superior. I'll spend my extra 2-4 grand to have functional rear wheels thank you. Not to mention my car is 10x easier to work on bud.
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@aaronsims17
400whp can be reached in my evo for around 3grand.
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@GraphicFrost
The FSI motor had cam follower issues and fuel pump issues, that was a bad engine design, but in 09 they started the TSI and the TSI engine is an amazingly engineered motor. Evos are nice. i like them, they are quicker than a GTI hands down, they will always be quicker, put 4k in an EVO and 4 k in a GTI the EVO still wins, no one can argue that. But if you are looking for a car to put 400hp down for cheap and still have a sick interior, GTI wins hands down.
aaronsims17 1 year ago
@aaronsims17
Yes I totally agree with you on that. The interior on VW's always seem to be a little ahead of their time and look very nice especially for the price.
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@ludedude077 and its fake because the GTI lets off, and doesnt accelerate as hard as it could
alexptry 1 year ago
@alexptry You're retarded if you think the only reason the Evo was pulling is because the GTI "LET OFF". LMAO! At one point in the video the Evo puts it in 3rd gear from like 35mph and the GTI goes down to 2nd gear, and even still the GTI can't stay even!
Tuned Evo vs a tuned GTI MKV is like Men and Boys. On a road course, auto cross, circuit track, drag strip, dirt road, lol.
One's a 102mph trap car with a tune and bolt-ons...The others a low 12 second car trapping ~ 112-115mph. Not close
ludedude077 1 year ago
@alexptry cool fucking story bro, that's the story of any car with mods. "OMG MY CAR WITH A FATTY TURBO AND A BUILT MOTOR COULD TAKE OUT A GTR!!!1!!!11!1" No shit, if you're not a retard this is common sense...
Nebrida23 1 year ago
@Nebrida23 you're an idiot...when did i say i had a vw first off 2nd off evos are 40 grand tuner cars...they're great cars but who wants a 40 grand japanese toy? no one.
alexptry 1 year ago
@alexptry
40 grand??? I have 60k miles on mine now and when I bought it I paid 17500 with mods and hella extra parts. Yah not 40 grand bud.
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
@GraphicFrost base price for new evo = 37 for MR...your 17.5 evo is old and a brand new gti = 20 and you put 15g into a gti...6gs for stage 3 kit plus 1g FMIC and 1gHPFP 1gnew clutch assuming m/t 2g decent wheels and 1g good suspension to get the power to the ground...1g for TBE....sorry 13? plus instal for everything? ya thanks il always go german over these jap POS's who wants a 60k used evo that will blow up in 1 year? you're an idiot
alexptry 1 year ago
@Nebrida23 This same bolt-on Evo actually ran a fully built, big turbo/meth GLI. But the videos on street fire so I don't think it will let me post it here.
Pretty good runs if you ever get the chance to search for it on street fire
ludedude077 1 year ago
@alexptry
My K04 1.8T was weak sauce.. Rape? Seriously? Good luck getting to 250whp with boltons like that and that's even with a good k04. No turbo upgrade and ur looking at 300awhp with just a tune in the evo.
Now don't get me wrong the GTI is a really nice car. My little bro lives with me and I've driven his car hundreds of times and worked on it many. He has a 07 GTI fully loaded.
I've owned many VW's and the only one I've kept out of the bunch is my 1979 16v 1.8L PL Scirocco S.
GraphicFrost 1 year ago
Ok i LOVE both cars, but when you say that the evo will have better 1/4 mile times than ANY built gti is irrelevant. No hating here, but the Evo is AWD, and the Gti is FWD...You might have a 500 hp evo running in the low 11's, but there are 700hp b18 powered FWD civics that run the same.... Its comparing apples to oranges in a car sense....Anyway, about the vid, it obviously is true. A "Reflash" could mean anything...
JLDG4 1 year ago
@JLDG4 Reflash = modding the ecu. It can be done in different ways but they all serve the same purpose.
Nebrida23 1 year ago
@Nebrida23 True true, but it could have different engine results relating to psi, fuel/air, etc etc.....I'm just saying that you could have a reflash with a mild tune, or a reflash with a race tune.
JLDG4 1 year ago
lag much? lol
Janeshcw 1 year ago
Unless the Evo is your buddy, I don't see the point of this race. Stock the Evo would probably still kill an STG2 GTI, unless the driver is retarded, so with all the mods this one has, you had no chance (well, maybe if he was getting a BJ at the time)
I have an STG2 GTI and I dont' waste time with EVOs, since they are NEVER stock around here.
And piece of advice, get rid of the BOV...
cubanbrew 1 year ago
both cars are sick!
tnasty830 1 year ago
i would like to see r32 turbo vs evo.....that would be a good race.
athiriver7 1 year ago
Damn son, very nice, keepin up with an EVO is not easy. Go with the Stage III u'll get him
nukka200 1 year ago
@nukka200 Where did he keep up? lol
cubanbrew 1 year ago
Resistance is futile... EVO FTW
skepar 1 year ago
i love both cars for different reasons. There is no comparison between these cars its apples and oranges. thats why reviews always compares evo's to sti's and gti's to speed3's and civic si's.
track/racing - evo wins.
spirited driving/cruises/work/dinner/long trips/fit &finish, actually anything else that is not solely speed and traction based - GTI wins.
and if you really need speed too, buy a gti and a bike,
lumns 1 year ago 2
how much boost you running on?
KKM13200 1 year ago
gti vs evo is no match up lol i have a gti and love it but its a lil fwd hatch they are quick when tuned and all but until fully built im talkin like gutted big turbo cams pistons the works wont stay with a tuned evo . . then you build an evo and its over . . they just arent in the same class put that evo against a tuned sti or maybe an s4 or something more in the same class of car. vw does get the ladies tho so idc
fatbrad52 1 year ago 2
VW'S suck so bad! LOl
dragunovmike 1 year ago
Thats why the GTI is my preferred choice. However, I do like the EVO, but you will not catch me paying 38k plus for a Mitsubishi - I will spend a few more bucks and get a 135i or audi TTS -
edd32ward 1 year ago 5
@edd32ward i agree with u man...after all mistu is still a jap crap.....nice answer
sunnygolfgti 1 year ago
Love the GTI's - great cars - and have THE BEST cabin qualities you can buy at their price - but unless you fully strip the car and rebuild it than the EVO is always going to be the faster car unless your are racing stock to highly tuned which in essence is not fair or even reasonable to compare. Both car have better traits than the other. I prefer a really sporty car and a high amount of luxury.
edd32ward 1 year ago
gt28t
mmonroe23 1 year ago
APR/Garrett Honeywell Ballistic Series GT2871APR Ball Bearing Turbocharger
Thats what i have on my 09
mmonroe23 1 year ago
my 09 mkv apr stage 3 will tear up an evo 9
mmonroe23 1 year ago
@mmonroe23 What turbo do you have on the stage 3 kit? K04? Or gt28?
If you have a k04 you'd definitely be able to beat a stock Evo 9 from a roll, but from a dig he'd probably still run a quicker 1/4 mile time. And once he starts modding it's game over for your car. Those cars can see 120+ traps still on a stock turbo!
If you have some kind of special build then anythings possible. But there are stock turbo Evo's in this world that are faster then the fastest 'built, big turbo' GTI MKV's.
ludedude077 1 year ago
@ludedude077 It would be faster off the line, but the STG3 would catch up. STG3 numbers are insane. Plus, with the STG3, the GTI will probably still be cheaper than a new Evo.
cubanbrew 1 year ago
@cubanbrew the evo is a better all around car no matter what, who cares about the price new, a used evo isnt all the expensive, so with price out of the equation, the evo beats the gti in everything but MPG and ride comfort, but who the fuck cares, most people that mod their VW's end up making the ride harsh because it makes the car better. it is WAY cheaper and easier to mod an evo, therefore making it a friendly car, what is the gti good at? being front end heavy and being front wheel drive.
petoria0013 1 year ago
@mmonroe23 APR/Garrett Honeywell Ballistic Series GT2871APR Ball Bearing Turbocharger
mmonroe23 1 year ago
I don't believe this clip!
How could a mere EVO beat the fastest and best allrounder hatch in the World???
In all seriousness however,GTI owners feel they have the fastest car on the road and simply cannot admit defeat ....even when it's recorded!
hondacar 1 year ago
schulman fuck you and ur vw shitcars german fag you don't know shit a golf is a piece of shit that you see on the road every 10 sec driven by people that don't care what they drive in it's a piece of shit that does not stand out like an evo so there is no need to compare your shitgolf will eat dust vs an evo german fag called fritzel
69roncho69 1 year ago
im a vw dude like no other, but you cant even say a gti come CLOSE to an evo as far as performance. and if you put the same amount of upgrades/mods on each car, the evo will still come out on top. its better than the gti STOCK, obviously itll still be better upgraded... no contest. give respect where its due guys.
chrisharper275 1 year ago
I don't have a problem being wrong just bring your evo out let's have it an the looser buys drinks I haven't been beat buy anything stock or light mods if you think your evos fast bring it out we can record that an put it on YouTube forget going back an forth on here
blackpr1nt 1 year ago
I feel you. But It's not my Evo. And I'm in Florida or else I'm sure the guy would be down to show you the difference - as it is quite significant.
The best I can do for you is say watch this video. This is an APR stage 2 GTi with supporting mods (no meth or fuel pump). This GTI has gone to the track and run his car. The best he ever got with these mods was 13.8@103mph.
This Evo when it was STOCK bro went 12.9@107mph!
With a tune and bolt-ons they are much faster. 12.0-12.2ish @ 110-112mph
ludedude077 1 year ago 2
@blackpr1nt shit i would mob to FL for an ice cold one haha
LTlKUSHl21 1 year ago
I have a stage 2 mkv gti an the only bolt ons I have are dp,cai an iv beat srt4s with bc an bolt ons an sti's an evos this YouTube shit is so phoney if you believe what you see on here you might as well watch wwf cuz this shit is fake come to baltimore an run up on me with an evo see what happens
blackpr1nt 1 year ago
@blackpr1nt
Sorry buddy, but you couldn't be more wrong. You do realize evo's with bolt-ons and a tune will run in the low 12's trapping around 110-112? The same Intake, turbo-back exhaust, and chip mods your GTI has turn Evo's into low - mid 12 second cars that trap ~ 110-112mph. Your basic stage 2 GTI would be lucky to trap @ 102-103mph on a good day.
You guys just must have some sloooow cars in Baltimore.
ludedude077 1 year ago 7
@ludedude077 Well said.;)
4g63kevin 1 year ago
@blackpr1nt Shut up dude, you give GTI owners a bad name.
cubanbrew 1 year ago
EVOs are great track cars, no questions. However VW focuses on the overall value of the car, with plush interiors and super driving feel. And you can't pull up to a formal event in a Mitsubishi, like you can in a VW. If you want a fast engine with wheels on a "pepsi" can get an EVO, If you want to sacrafice that for more luxury, get a VW. If you don't like either, TAKE THE BUS!
GjonetoOfficialPage 1 year ago
ur gti revs up very slowly how fast are you guys driving when the race starts ?
nice evo btw ^^
HylianFury 1 year ago
evo's stock turbo is more equivalent to k04 IMO.. so a GTI with K04 would keep up with the right tune...
rjmkv 2 years ago
Coming from a VW owner, i think if you dump an equal amount of money on to that EVO, would be no contest, Nice EVO...
vnkn23 2 years ago 2
Im all about VW but that Evo was sick.
vtecsux85 2 years ago
someone put a evo engine on a gti it would be the ultimate gti evolution or whatever
transttorner 2 years ago 2
ludedudes right the evo would own in every aspect of the comp i love both but in the end the evo takes it
tdog1089 2 years ago 2
I don't know why everyone are talking trash about everybody else's car.
I love good cars,that's why i love VW and Evo.
From a GTI owner!
The Golf R will rape ass!
IairbusI 2 years ago
Um...before any of you talk trash about VW and how there's NO GTI that can keep up with this Evo, why don't you look at the 700hp GTI "1.8t" that's on youtube or really anything over 500hp that was built with around 10-15k. That GTI "1.8t" would smoke this Evo so bad that the owner of the Evo would probably sell his car. The only thing that would destroy a 700hp gti is a Bugatti or high end Ferrari, otherwise stop making the Evo more than it really is.
kingplaya901 2 years ago
@kingplaya901
Dude, it's a STOCK turbo Evo and you want to unleash a 700whp GTI on it?? LMAO.
I'll say it again, STOCK TURBO.
If the Evo starts going for big power, there's nothing the Volkswagen GTI can do about it. It's no match brotha. You could go mod for mod with ANY GTI in the WORLD and it will still get raped in EVERY witch direction by an equally modded Evo.
There are Evo's that would rape Bugatti's. What kind of Evo's do you know?
ludedude077 2 years ago
@ludedude077
I love GTi's so much but I have to admit....you are right :)
gtiw7 2 years ago
Your making the GTI more than what it is. A 700 HP GTI would have traction issues, and if it didn't it's because you would have several inches of drag radials sticking out of each size. 700 HP you are talking GT40r turbo You would never see power until around 5.5K and even with a built head you probably won't be going past 8500. 3K worth of powerband! The Evo is nice, stop trying to discredit it by saying shit like "Oh well if it raced the Dahlback Golf it would lose!"
terraflata 2 years ago
@kingplaya Dahlbacks GTI was AWD not FWD. My stock 02 GTI will chirp gears with a set of all seasons. The GTI is a nice car and I love mine to death, but it isn't built up on rally based technology like the EVO. EVO is a perfect track car and race car. Aside from the high insurance premiums if I had the money I'd check one out. For now my GTI is great for car shows and some runs.
CommanderB9488 1 year ago
im a huge vw fan and i love my gti but wow nice evo
mikethebeast1012 2 years ago
my vrt will rape this showoff.
jinikvr6 2 years ago
speed isnt everything.
maxou5757 2 years ago
VW are in fact the best. You are comparing apples to oranges. Lets see what the all new Golf R DSG will do to that evo if it's modded.
maxou5757 2 years ago
That EVO 9 has what a tdo5hr 16g in it? LOL compared to a K03S ... It would have been more interesting to see a stock EVO 9 vs the the Stage 2 K03S or even a K04 at Stage 2 but up against a chipped EVO 9 there's no chance.
drewnashty 2 years ago
Oneofakindtrini, chill out. GTI didnt spend anymore then 2000 for what he has under his hood. And GTI isnt a piece of shit. I have an 09 GLI and have the exact same stuff under my hood as this GTI except for the Forge DIverter Valve. and i have 280hp and 340 torque. VW are the best. Germen Engineering make the best cars. Fuck the ricy EVO shit. and my friend Vanessa is a girl and her evo is making 450 whp. but shes spoiled as fuck. lol
Schulman728 2 years ago 3
VW are the best?? LMAO! Enough said....
ludedude077 2 years ago
@Schulman728
vw is best?
come on dude this is an evo...if you talk shit on an evo you are a huge fan boy
IAmTheRealAsif 2 years ago
oneofakinidtrini.... you are an idiot... yes they are both 2L turbo... but they are completly different types of 2 Liters. also the Evo's turbocharger is like 2x bigger than the GTI's k03... so in all fairness the GTI did well considering how tiny its turbo is ...
vdubjetta02 2 years ago 10
If that's good, I'd hate to see what bad looks like to you..
So we should feel bad for the 2.0L turbo because it went up against another 2.0L turbo? I don't get it.
If you were saying an F/I 2.0L to an All motor 2.0L I could understand. But two 2-Litre turbocharged cars that weigh pretty similar? Sorry. But it's not the Evo's fault the GTi has a turbo the size of a baseball. Run what you brung!
ludedude077 2 years ago
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oneofakindtrini 7 months ago
@vdubjetta02
The GTi can remain a cute little car while the EVO will remain a beast.
oneofakindtrini 6 months ago
@8u dude.
Long how long he's taking during shifts. And he should be wot not letting off.
oneofakindtrini 2 years ago
Evo FTw!
Btw that vDub must be really slow if the Evo9 is leaving him like that evo tho he's granny shifting
oneofakindtrini 2 years ago
how is he granny shifting?
8u77355 2 years ago
@8u77355
look how long he's taking during shifts.
oneofakindtrini 2 years ago
gotcha
8u77355 2 years ago
actually the vdub is pretty quick considering the engine differences..
yfzboy450 2 years ago
@yfzboy450
Ahahaha.. What engine difference? They were both turbo 2liters. Don't be mad the jap's can make fast econoboxes. lol EVO FTw! And the evo only has bolt-ons
oneofakindtrini 2 years ago
dude are you seriously that retarded?? EVO = more money, 80+ more HP stock, awd, compared to a GTI. do some homework, cuz that GTi is probly puttin up around 270-280 hp? and the EVO with all the is puttin around 330+?? and stock for stock the GTI is a better "econobox" gas mileage, price etc..
yfzboy450 2 years ago 3
Dude. Shut the fuck up. You have no clue what your talking about. The evo has bolt ons. No walboro 255. So it can't be making 320awhp. Ok and they are both 4 cylinder 2liter turbo. Don't get upset japan knows how to make power. The vw is a weak piece of shit. The apr kit cost atleast 5grand and it can't run with a evo with less than 2grand in bolt on parts. And the ecu in the vw is reflashed. Go get knowledgeable at evom or stay riding your bike ok. It's ok you can cry a bit now.
oneofakindtrini 2 years ago
hell yea
xXBRETT972558Xx972 2 years ago
this video is retarded... comparing GTI and a evo... they're not even in the same class
dotkyo 2 years ago 2
bah, why am I not surprised? sorry but those GTis are slow. I'd rather swap a motor in an MK2 instead.
omegaboostZ 2 years ago
fast gti, but alot faster Evo but thats normal ^^
NicolinoOh 2 years ago
depends on what you would call a modded evo...be careful what you say viking445 lol
petoria0013 2 years ago
that looks a lot like Bell Rd. in good ole PHX, AZ.
clifford850r 2 years ago
my friend beat evo ...stage 2...drag...
mozyne 2 years ago
that ending was the best
provehito44 2 years ago
i wouldnt mess with an evo, their 2 different cars tho end of story.
peculiarself 2 years ago
there are gtis that take on supercars very well. gti with apr software took on a r8 was with him the whole time. and mk6s are coming out soon we'll surpass all evos stis and zs
musicISlyf1 2 years ago
That makes a huge difference on how a car can perform. In my opinion, its stupid to put so much power in a fwd car. I own a mk5 gti and I love it to death, but I will admit, if you are looking for a high performance racing beast, the gti isnt your best candidate...
Nicodemayo 2 years ago
The R8 traps ~ 110-111mph. I wouldn't mention that car in the same breath as a SUPER car. Look's wise, yes. But far from supercar performance. There are stock cars that trap in the 120's.
ludedude077 2 years ago
yeah, what does it matter how many mods we do, or if the factory does it. That's the only difference here, the evo comes tuned by the factory to get all that power, GTI's needs to be tuned. It's all the same to me isn't it?
dubgli 2 years ago
I'm a GTi owner, nd I dont think that my GTi is the fastest turbo car out there. Nd I know we probably cant beat an EVo. Their turbos are probably about 2 times bigger than ours nd they run like 10 psi more than we do. I dont kno what you have against v-dubs buddy. There actually really nice cars. They may not be as fast as te evo, but there still awesome cars
WaZzAp11010 3 years ago 14
i wonder if a stage II+ could take a bolt on EVo without flash
javdan23 3 years ago 2
probably not. it would be somewhat close until the end.
kestkr 2 years ago
I have a revo stage 2+ Gti and my buddies evo rapes me still everytime we race. He has the same set up as this 1. Evos are just amazing cars period.
skevovr6 3 years ago 3
stock evo can kiss gtis ass ,y is every evo guy thinking that evos are sooooo fast ,i got stage 2 apr and thios gti was not even stage 1 or this evo got some bolts on
yourfast06 3 years ago
hey guy, it says in the description the evo's flashed and has a MBC... MORE BOOOOOOST...
Chaoutzu 2 years ago
anyone who has a mkv chiped with a downpipe should know or know that a reflashed evo will never pull on a mkv not when its chipped unless the evo has a boost controler along with few bolt-ons!! i would pay that evo guy to race me i have a chipped gti and raced lots and lots of evo lost to many and beat many so i know !!
HAROGTI 3 years ago
What?!?! Are you kidding me? Probably one of the dumbest post on youtube, and that says a lot!
A reflashed Evo 9 with a couple bolt-ons is a low low 12 second car trapping in the teens! Your "chipped" (lmao) GTI MKV is exactly where with a DP?? This evo could be stock and it would still rape that GTI.
ludedude077 3 years ago
I am a GTI owner also, and I definitely know that I wouldn't be able to put up a fight with an Evo even if I was chipped, had a full exhaust system, intake, and all these little mods that may shave off a second on the 0-60 time. You need to do REAL upgrades to take an Evo. GT3071r would do the trick. 7k including labor and you're good to go.
guitarist1990 2 years ago
0-60 u never gonna beat evo ,u full of shit ,drive one and talk
yourfast07 2 years ago
yea, those mkv's are pigs compared to the mkIV.. my gti can hang with stock evo's and its chipped, 3" tb, 007dv.. but thats pushin it.. and i seem to fall farther behind the faster we go.. damn box designs lol
Chaoutzu 2 years ago
well that evo had to have over 400hps and a bigger turbo if that was a stage 2 gti
yourfast06 2 years ago 4
Dude, a 'stage 2' gti, if its by APR, is a chip and exhaust, maybe an intercooler.. putting the car at around 215-220 at the wheels...
Chaoutzu 2 years ago
haha , with the intercooler , stage 2+ has about 270 at the wheels hahaha. sounds like u own one .
yourfast07 2 years ago
That Evo only has a reflash, 3" turboback exhaust, and a MBC. Still on STOCK TURBO.
With those 3 power adding mods and a clutch that evo was running 12.2@112 on stock tires.
That's like your basic 'simple' chip and exhaust, plus a MBC.
STock that Evo 9 was going 12.9@107. Even that would bee too much for a stage 2+ GTI from a roll. Let alone a dig.
A bigger turbo Evo would have the potential to pretty much rape anything you could ever think about doing to your GTI.
ludedude077 2 years ago
Yea agreed. I have a 2005 Evo VIII and before i got the Ams gt35r turbo kit, Ams fuel injectors and a bottom end rebuild i was running around 390 to the crank with a reflash, a turbo back exhaust, and a hks mega flow intake. And my friend has a gti mkv with a stage 2 kit and it was always pretty close maybe 3 to 5 car pull but now with a bigger turbo and bottom end it puts me close to 600 awhp and its no match i pull on him hard at least 10 to 15 cars But the mkv's are still fun to drive!
nixonbullet 2 years ago
UNLESS is a GTI R32 HPA TURBO..then that would rape anything you could ever think about doing to that evo
daskatedude 2 years ago
you really should know how to pick a fight! i have an 04 audi tt 225 chipped, apr r1 dv, dv relocate, dog bone mount, intake and exhaust and i sill know not to race an evo!!! haha it like going to the track with a single cam civic and racing a vet! just dose not work.......
20PsiNow 3 years ago
LOL Bro Evo's IX with MBC, Drop in Filter, and TurboBack, is an easy low 12's second car trapping around 108 to 110 mph just those simple mods would kill ur stock turbo GTi that would neve trap those times with the stock turbo and even on meth ,u would need a lot more than that... Evo's are superior and sorry Budy but that's a fact .. Bring Us Ur GTi .. and we'll show YOU LOL
alan305z 2 years ago
I don't know why they don't understand this. They seem to think the Evo's are over rated, yet The fastest stock turbo GTI MKV in the WORLD runs a 13.0@107mph. That's full bolt-on with meth and on DR's.
And that's the only 1. The next fastest guy is a good bit behind him too.
If you want to play with even a lightly bolted on Evo ix, the GTI is going to need a bigger turbo.
Yes, even from a roll..
ludedude077 2 years ago