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  • I would advise any muslim woman in the U.S. and other western to make sure to do a LEGAL marriage in addition to her nikah to seure herself and her children financially. This way another woman will not be a threat to your position. You don't want to be married to your husband for years and establish a home with him only for another to come enjoy what you worked for with your husband. He will obviously be spending money on her. I don't want that to come from my money.

  • How many men nowadays can actually afford more than one family? I mean seriously.Men need to think ahead when thinking of making such a huge decision as taking another wife. We live in financially hard times and polygamy is only feasible for the very wealthy men. You should be making at least $100,000 a year or more. Think about how many more children you will be responsible for. Wait, I forgot, most of these men just depend on the government to take care of their wives.

  • @misscamara12 $100 000???????

    i think thats a bit over the top.

    a muslim man [who ofcourse works as is obligatory upon him] can live confortably on 30 000$, and have remainder.

  • @abdullahalmahmood Well, yes that would be enough depending on the standard of living you want. If you don't mind living in a cramped apartment then that would be enough. I don't to live hand to mouth so my husband can spend his money on another woman. Sorry, not every woman will fall for that stupidity. A man making $30,000 a year cannot afford more than one wife. You are deluded. A lot of broke brothers are always looking for excuses to practice polygamy.

  • @misscamara12 thats what i said, a man who earns 30 000 can live confortably with one family.

    if he is on 60 000+, there is no reson why he cant have more than one family.

  • @abdullahalmahmood nope, $60,000 is for ONE family. Do you think about how expensive it is to take care of kids? Oh, well like I said it depends on the life you want. If you are fine with inner city apartments and living in poverty than that would be enough. If you want a house (and I don't mean anything fancy) and a decent looking home it won't be. I am guessing you don't make much and are trying to delude yourself into thinking you can afford more than 1 wife.

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  • @misscamara12 i dont make much or anything because im not even of working age yet.im still in education not that its any of your business.

    so enough with your same old ignorant rantings which keep comming back different days.

    and this discussion is not about money, ITS ABOUT THE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF ALLAAHS RELIGION.

    the prophet[saww] said "whomsoever Allaah wants good for, he gives him fiqh/understanding/comprehensi­on of the religion"

    something which you clearly lack!

  • @abdullahalmahmood omg you're a baby. not of working age? Why am I not surprised? It is usually young guys who are not even married yet who fantasize about 2, 3, or 4 wives. After you marry one woman and have kids with her, then come talk. You are talking about marrying more than 1 when, you don't even know what it is like to have any responsibility. Most actual married men would agree that one wife and set of kids is enough.

  • @misscamara12 unlike most other people my age, i've seen quite alot, and lived in more countries than you can imagine, so therefore, my brain is overdeveloped, and i've had to grow up quickly, so therefore i probably have more 'Ibra, Khibra than you who is very immature/ narrow minded, ignorant for a grown woman who claims to be a muslimah.

    "omg" yes you are suprised because you thought i was a grown up by the way im communicating.

  • @abdullahalmahmood Nope, I was surprised that a little boy is already talking about many wives when he doesn't even know how it is to take care of 1. Finish school and get a job and see if it is as easy as you think. You obviously don't know how much responsibility goes into taking care fo 1 family let alone more than 1. You need to think 10 and 20 years into the future with more than 1 wife AND set of kids.

  • @abdullahalmahmood I understand now. Polygamy is usually a just a FANTASY for many men and most don't attempt to make it a reality.

  • @misscamara12 now, you completely change you method and hide behind the table by talking to me like im a simpleton, or like im your child,

    because you have nothing else.

    for you, knowledge is pathetic rhetorical speech which the prophet[saww] hated, and for me, knowledge is Allaah said, his messenger said, the Salaf understood.

  • @abdullahalmahmood and your point is...?

  • @misscamara12 i seek refuge in Allaah from being an ignoramus like you when i grow up.

    so unfortunate/poor/afflicted, yet so arrogant and proud you are.

    you have what is called jahl al murakkab [complex], which is the worst type of ignorance, and making someone who suffers from it understand something, IS LIKE PULLING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF THE EARTH.

  • @abdullahalmahmood Yes, grow up first. You will soon learn. No wonder you sounded so silly. Most grown married men would talk more sense than this.

  • @misscamara12 they say three are the worst enemies of the human being.

    1 ignorance

    2 poverty

    3 sickness

    'iyathanbillah.

    ignorance is the worst because it leads to talking about Allaah without knowledge, which is disbelief, so stop talking about poverty, because wallaahi, you are afflicted with what is much worse than it.

    in addition to making a woman seem like a gold-digger if her no 1 priority is money.

    i'll avoid such women in the future.

  • @abdullahalmahmood Finish your education first and try to get a good job if you want a wife. Islamically you cannot get married unless you can provide for your future wife and kids. I wish you well in school and hope you find a good job one you're done. All women want a man who ca provide. There is a fine line between being a gold digger and wanting financialy security for you and your kids. I want security and don't care much for fancy things.

  • @misscamara12 It is clear that we come from two completely different schools of thought, one which knows what true knowledge is, and the other which doesnt know the difference between 'ilm and fisq, one which doesnt know the difference betwix 'ilm and jahl.

    btw, please dont try to educate me about what the obligations of a man and wife is, had you understood them yourself, you wouldnt be disgracing yourself .

  • @abdullahalmahmood Plus, what is you point about those 3 things? Stay on topic.

  • @misscamara12 do you know that a person becomes an enemy of A l l a a h if he attacks, or tries to restrict something which Allaah made holy, and good and lawfull such as polygyny?

    do you know that a woman DOES NOT have a say in whether her husband marries a second wife so long as he fullfills the conditions needed to.

    she does not have a say, its as simple as,

    why cant you dig that?

    she can discuss it with the man BEFORE they get married, but after they get married, she has no say!

  • @abdullahalmahmood Yes, a wife cannot stop a husband from taking other wives, but she CAN choose not to be in the marriage anymore. He can have up to 4, but she CAN CHOOSE not to be one of them. You love repeating that women have no say. Get over yourself. Women have rights and a voice in Islam and don't just have to put up and shut up. Some extremist polygamy loving muslim men like yourself wish women were just silent objects and your servants with no voice.

  • I have the same problem!! So many Muslim men do this just for Sex and of course they will never say that is the real reason. The way others look at them. Wow he has more than one wife...a Status Symbol. I am speaking from experience!!!! Many are trying ot mimic Muhammad (PBUH) and his wives. Zahraa

  • why do brothers want another wife? well allahswt made it permissable for them.. there is alot more sister than just sex in polygamy . there are alot of reasons.. at times sister there are no reason other than he can.. sister there is a greater good behind it. men dont get wives just to sex them .. sometimes the sister is not missing anything and they take it on ... sister imagine a life long friendship with a sister?!? and your husband.. are you on facebook??

  • he sallallahu alayhi wa salam treated them. And go from there. Wa-Allahu alam. BarakAllahu feeki, may Allah guide all of us Ameen. Asalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

  • Because you're not doing what you're supposed to do ect. You almost make it seem as if the brother is having an affair. You have to realize Allah created men with the desire for more than one woman, this isn't about you lacking as a wife or a human being. Insha Allah I think you shoud study the biography's of the sahabiyyat to gain a better understanding, and you can even start with the biography of the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam to see how his wives acted towards polygyny and how

  • You said that you would wonder if you're a good enough wife, what you're doing wrong ect. This is not why men marry more than one woman, it is in a mans nature. You could be the perfect wife and he would stilll have this desire. The wives of the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam were the BEST of woman, yet the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam married more. The wives of the Salaf were amongst the most righteous yet the Salaf married more. It's not about a man stepping out on you

  • Wow where to begin lol Asalamu alaykum, first, Allah said marry 2, 3 or 4 but if you feel you cannot be just marry only one, He started off with 2 and never said one was better as you stated, unless the man cannot be just. You mentioned that there are conditions to marrying another wife such as if someone is widowed or divorced, there are no such conditions. The prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam never spoke of them and the Salaf never held to any conditions either.

  • The woman who feels jealous does not hate the fact that Allaah has allowed her husband to marry more than one woman, but she hates to have a co-wife. There is an obvious difference between the two matters,and I hope that brother and sisters think care.fully about matters and not rush to judgement..

    

  • mushaa aallah sis keep it up

  • It's not you..

  • No woman can satisfy a man sister. We do it because it is fun to have two or three women. You can be the perfect wife and we will still have another wife.

  • @ktron810 You got that right mans nature is to spread his seed.Man does not like feel like he cant spread out. But if stays with one wife its because he wants to, or because hes scared.LoL!

    Im not muslim I just wanted to hear polgyny from an Islamic perspective.

    Salem Shalom

  • Why do women like to go shopping? Sister because we can do it and women need men. It is 12 to 1 in America sister.

  • salam sister.. well soem brothers do it for the sake of ALLah.. to make sure other sisters can hav e and rase a fam because woman out number men and that will continue to rize.. to 50/1.. 2 so men honestly need more then 1 for sexual presuse its just the way they are 3.. some men like more company or what hudge famlies. there is many reasons sister.. but alot of men like you said to not follow tnhe rule right. and they will awnser for it. i hope thats awnser you a little

  • WHAT IS YOUR NATURE AND WHAT IS A MANS NATURE?

  • @WiseNubianPolygny1 I HAVE A BETTER IDEA - GET OUT OF IGNORANCE AND START BEING A MUSLIM!!!

  • @WiseNubianPolygny1 please brother get off of my page with that drama . Islam is the truth and if you cant see that then you need to fall back fast.

  • @kimfalls Salam alaykom sister... I have watched 4:42 of your video. and Im ready to reply.

    Men and women are equal, yet the man and women are not the exact same.

    Women judge more based on emotions (phsycologist tell us that)) and men tend to be more to the point/ logical..

    God has put something in men (Something you as a sister can NEVER understand)

    But God has allowed us to have more then 1 wife without that "reason" you are expecting us to have. It's a privilage , and we want it.

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  • @WiseNubianPolygny1 lol if you watched my video i never said anything about polygny because it is allowed in Islam . The only problem i have is that some men misuse it. and as far as america please give me a break. I couldnt care 2 cents about what America is doing as soon as i get the change im going to Africa!

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  • laughin throughout this video eventho its a serious,touchy subject.But while watchin this i realized that its truly miraculous n amazing to see a black/white convert sista talkin like a born muslim women!!! subhanala

  • lool again u are too funny.luv how you are so strong n would talk about what u really feel:lol.i think u can get a divorce if your not happy wiv second marraige of your husband. im NOT sure tho so definitely find out about that 1, ok.

  • Ofcourse it's a slap to a womans pride. Men in general want more then 1 female. i can't tell you how many serial polygamist I have met. they have no shame and they are quick to say that it is their right. It's your right to have been married 10,12,13 times. Some men do mean well, but in a society where sex is highly abused most men are useing it for halal sex. Sisters on welfare and foodstamps while their husband marry on and off with no fear of ALLAH(SWT).

  • "And if you were to ask them, they would say: 'Surely we were

    only jesting and playing.' Say: 'Was it Allah, His Verses,

    or His Messenger you were mocking? Make no mistake,

    verily you have disbelieved after your belief.' " [3]

  • @dessani so are you call me a disbeliever ? if you actually took the time out to listen to my video bro ... you would see that i say that polygamy is something that ALLAH has decreed and i am the slave of ALLAH so what ever HE has decreed i hear and obey. The whole message of the video was to share my thoughts because this ummah has many brothers who mistreat their first wife and then decide to get another .... if you treat your wifekindly, justly and respectfully then i wasnt talking to you

  • @kimfalls Polygamy was in all religions

    I had forgotten to add to the part that Allah rewards the Sister who accepts a wonderful marriage from a wonderful Brother if he is Married, more than he rewards a women who marries a single man. Women, outnumber men and even in the non-muslim tradition and religions it's well practiced Here are some of the Quotes from the Bible and the Torah

    Polygamy: According to Jewish Law and The Torah

  • @kimfalls Polygamy: According to Jewish Law and The Torah

    In Exodus (Chapter 21, Verse 10) it is stated:

    "If he takes him 'another wife', her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage shall he not diminish is evident to even a casual reader of Old Testament that not only is polygamy permitted but also practiced, and that regulations for that have been stipulated in the scriptures.

  • @kimfalls Polygamy: According to Christian Law and The Bible

    "And I gave thee (David) thy master's house, and thy master's 'wives' into thy bosom, and gave thee the House of Israel and of Juda." (2 Sam. 12:8)

    How is it that God Himself gave him his 'master's wives' if His intention was to keep the 'one man with one woman' rule? Even in the seventh generation after Adam we find that "Lamech took unto him two wives" (Gen. 4:19);

  • @monstergater Abraham had three wives; Jacob had 2 wives besides concubines; Moses did not forbid it, instead he brought Laws to regulate it, as has been mentioned in the previous heading.

    Islam is the true and final Religion of All the Prophets and Messengers

  • Thank you for this video. A lot of brothers just pick and choose parts of the ayah they like. They forget the part about treating them justly and being able to AFFORD more than 1 wife. They just focus on the part that says just marry 2, 3, or 4. lol...A lot of brothers, especially in the west cannot afford it financialy anyway. They just love the idea. They want to marry every attractive woman they see. They are quick to ignore the first wife's feelings and dismiss her as jealous.

  • @kimfalls..It amazes me that the brothers are quick to state why women are sojealous...let the wife look for 2nd husband and see what happens. Sisters are not supposed to do that, but men can't handle that situation inside or outside of Islam. Women will always question why their husband needs another woman. I'm not married, but I would want to be the only wife. If the topic of a 2nd wife comes up, I would get a divorce and allow him to get his four wives. May Allah (swt) forgive me.

  • @LayaanLayaan..I agree with you....some men are just greedy! Fairly and equally...can the men that desire more than one wife really provide that? I doubt it.

  • Speak Sister, SPEAK!!! I'm glad you had the courage to tackle this subject. I think a lot of women feel this way, the majority I'm sure. Some Brothers are just greedy and use the fact that they are allowed to in Islam to have multiple wives.

    Some Brothers do it for lust, but when it was allowed in Islam, it was not for lust - it was because of the widows of war and so on. Brothers now see a pretty young muslimah and get greedy!!! NOT ALL - BUT MANY!!!

    As-Salamu'Alaikum Sister! xXx

  • @LayaanLayaan That a lie your just an american born of a slave mentality sad on you!!

  • @WiseNubianPolygny1 What is sad, is your poor level of education and basic grammar. You really ought to get your facts right. You cannot say my statement is a lie, because you are not qualified to speak for the Ummah OR on behalf of Muslims - you yourself, are an unbeliever and are 'blind, deaf and dumb' :-)

    Brothers have told me TO MY FACE, that they want multiple wives simply 'BECAUSE IT'S ALLOWED'.

    Also, I am NOT American and actually LIVED in Africa for years, so fall back with yourself!

  • @LayaanLayaan look you supreme control freak my spelling of the so call caucasian language aka english has no relevances of what i said to the lady and you have no clue of who and what i am about lol you are just what you are a want to be control freak!!!

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