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  • an illuminated sight isnt actually lined up with were the bullet will be until completely aiming down the gun/ sights, you want chap tricks, theres a great game called mw3 just for that

  • Its because the red dot sight doesn't allow you to hold your breathe like with the normal scopes, so it is makes some shots go off like in the video. Frustrating yes, but going up against a sniper in hardcore with these attachments would be just like CoD quickscoping, so I don't complain about it :P

  • stop moving and remove the suppressor.

    I dont own bf3 but even I know that.

  • petit bug pas très simpas

  • Suppression.

  • Dude remove suppressor

  • I believe it's just the game trying to make it more balanced. as in if the CQB really can make a fast acquisition on target it would be better to fire medium to long ranges with the CQB sight than a magnified scope as you can acquire targets much faster and be just as accurate.

    I guess they really want the sight to be really CQB as possible.

  • I was using the M39 with Red Dot and I noticed the rounds always fly below the dot, and that is only 30m away. Guess I'll just use the ACOG instead

  • good, recon class is for spotting enemies at long range. if your rushing with a sniper your not helping your team

  • @hydrollama Sir, I do believe your statement is wrong. Yes, playing recon long range can be beneficial for spotting but he is killing tons and playing like an assault/engineer. Now if playing like this isn't helpful then lets remove the two classes completely. He is playing aggressive sniper, a perfectly good role that helps the team greatly as he captures objectives and wins.

    Go watch some shotgun sniping or UAV roadkill video's for another creative use of game mechanics to help your team win.

  • Because BF3 isn't COD.

  • I HATE BATTLEFIELD 3. gave up on it after the first day and went back to bfbc2

  • does this on all guns not just sniper rifles its the random bullet spread shit they added into the game

  • If you want to see how it works, put a laser on the sv98 with the 7x scope. Move/turn while zoomed. You'll notice that the laser (which shows exactly where the shot will go) is not always matched in the center of the sights.

  • @lionheart3655

    The laser does not show exactly where it will go though, because you have to take bullet drop into consideration.

  • It's because you're moving and only have one shot. Every weapon has the same inaccuracy when moving and starting to ADS, but most weapons are automatic and one or two missed shots is not noticeable.

  • This game is scripted that way, like many other games, if you move while shooting your bullet will get missangeld to prevent the sniper rifles from dominating the other weapons.

    The sniper rifles are intended for camping in this game and not "quickscopeing"

    This is nothing new it's been around for a long time.

  • How r u getting one shot kills. I have to get a head shot?

  • @nukenator66 He's playing on hardcore servers.

  • I'm fairly sure DICE has always had natural deviation with bullets. Sometimes you'll hit exactly where the reticule is, and other times the bullet will do what it likes and go whatever direction it damn well pleases.

  • @Terminox I've had this problem recently while using iron sights on the sniper rifle, which normally has no accuracy issues. However once I equipped the silencer, my bullets don't seem to be as zeroed in as they used to be. Have you tried to use the CQB sights without a supressor?

  • @Koniving Yeah I do it all the time without a silencer. I did it this time for the novelty. Check out the link within the video, you'll see how fast the irons without a silencer are for aim-in.

  • Its because of the suppressor!

  • thats why short ranged scopes work for auto/semi auto guns .. where as when u put a rifle scope on a assault rifle it has the same effect as seen on this video

  • Maybe it's the suppressor?

  • funny, i have never had this problem,

  • It's because you're moving. If you stand still you'll be much more accurate.

  • Guy puts a red dot CQC sight on bolt action sniper rifle... Complains that it doesn't work.

  • Not trying to be mean but have you ever thought a CQB or CLOSE COURTER COMBAT sight is not ment for a SNIPER

  • This happens to me with the M249 with a holographic sight. I understand it's not the most accurate gun, but even when I manage to control the recoil and center it well on a guy 15-20 ft away, I don't get a single bullet on target. But if I don't aim down the sight it doesn't happen. Does anyone have any similar problems?

  • @Cocaine8711 +1 MG36, M27-IAR and M249 all have the same problem with me. I'll fire straight at someone, and I might get a single hitmarker. (Also, I'll fire at someone's back, they'll turn around, and kill me, even though I fired 1-2 seconds earlier). Only happens with those for some reason.

  • @patriotrower yeah, i'm pretty sure that all machine guns have bullet spread when they fire for more than like a burst in a row. It's really bad with machine guns, but it's kind of noticeable on assault rifles with fast fire rates

  • thats why i just use the iron sights instead if im doing close quarters. never had that problem before. maybe its the suppressor.

  • This has annoyed me as well... glad someone made a video of it. There's really no point in using these optics at the moment, because it just screws you over more than it benefits you

  • I only have Teir 1 MOH

  • This game is so frustrating. I get a lot of kills, my K/D is not as good as I want but nothing to complain about at 1.23, but the hit detection in this game is FUCKED. The shotguns are pretty bad but the light machine guns are even worse. Several times I have lined a guy up in my sites with the M249 probably 30-50m away, and shot, only to have none of the bullets hit him. If you tap your shot it helps a bit, but because it takes so long to kill him he just turns and shoots you with his FAMAS.

  • @extraplanetarysign you just corrected your own comment, use a bipod with support weapons

  • @extraplanetarysign lol who cares about kdr in bf3? only cod noobs lol

  • @extraplanetarysign

    The M249 has less accuracy than the 870MCS without a bipod

  • its only quick scoping if you play hardcore or can get head shots all the time. they should fix this and it would only be effective in tdm anyway and thats if your good

  • What's weapon is this? :O Thanks

  • ur using a suppressor on bolt action, what totally fucks up the gun

  • @ErwinDijkstra97 what does the term "bolt action" mean? ty

  • @icete93 the mechanismon this gun is bolt action: shoot then load the bullet manually by using that lever thing (bolt)

  • @icete93 when you fire a shot you have to pull a lever before your next shot

  • So you can't quick scope in BF3? That's great.

  • It might be the silencer. I say that because I know silencers absolutely ruin long range sniping.

  • and the suppressor isnt exactly helping your accuracy either...

  • You do realise you are moving whilst taking a shot, of coarse the accuracy/spread is going to be insane, epically on a sniper rifle.

  • @justskate000 The use of "epic" was not really necessary here. Epic is way overused these days. "Especially" would've been more appropriate. Don't get mad either... I'm just saying.

  • No, the game is punishing you for trying to play BF3 like a COD quickscoper. Dice wanted recons to be long range, stationary targets. Not some idiot running around jumping like COD quickscoping.

    Also you where moving when you fire so that screws up your accuracy

    Finally Im not gunna say try quickscoping in real-life because you can with the sniper your using and a few others You will probably have a dislocated shoulder at worst.

    Its when you use a 50cal is when you cant quickscope < Arms gone

  • @ThatM16guy Accutaly they wanted recons to be up front but I don't really know how they wanted to do that but yeah... And stop comparing games to real life

  • @TiceTac3 Well BF3 did say they wanted it to be a realistic game :)

    Also i could of acted like a fag and said STOP QUICKSCOPING YOU FUCKING NOOB! but i didnt (i apologize for that comment).

  • @ThatM16guy hater's gona hate but quickscoping was probably the monst fun to kill people with. and i don't care if is't realistic or not. it's stoopid if a sniper in bf3 sits 300 meters away from any objectives and gets in 5 minutes 3 kills and is out of ammo after that. as a sniper in normal mode in bf3 you got stay more back but please don't be a dick and PTFO!

  • @ThatM16guy Last time i heard DICE said the recon class was supposed to be mobile.. Get your facts straight.

  • @mrmining97 that was Dice saying they wanted to promote aggressive recon. i.e the type that runs around with a shotgun - PDW -or SEMI AUTO snipers with close range optics

  • @ThatM16guy It's true that those misses were caused by him moving slightly, but that's simply a GAME MECHANIC that Dice implemented and is totally detached from reality.

  • @Excedrine but its just a game......... shit i just realist BF3 said they where going to be realistic..... you win

  • you missed the shot because you were moving if you dint move the shot would have landed in the place where you wanted to shoot your bullet

  • YOU RUIN THE MOTHER FUCKING GAME WHEN YOU QUICKSCOPE ALRIGHT??? THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A REALISTIC GAME NOT SOME CALL OF DUTY SHIT NIGGA. STOP WHINING LIKE A BITCH AND ACTUALLY SNIPE FROM A FAR AWAY PLACE WHERE YOU CANT HAVE THE CROSSHAIRS ON THE ENEMY. TRY IT FOR ONCE U HOE... ITS FUN

  • @5K473RS Lol, why do you want him to camp at long range instead of supporting his team by taking out key targets faster?

  • @5K473RS ya and snipers are realistic when its a one shot to the heal only LOL

  • the problem is you moved. problem solved

  • I guess the accuracy on sniper rifles goes down significantly if you don't use a sniper scope because those rifles are meant to be used only with those scopes.

  • Quickscope much? -.-

    

  • got to say fired a large number of fire arms in my life and last time i see a roun that far of target the scope was jacked up , i know this is a game but if they let you use red dot and holo on a sniper then let the god damn gun work how it should thanks for the video dude

  • nearly 1500 hours total worth of watched video on this? really, lets not go there.

  • O man such dumbass. Shot's the Sniper while going *facepalm*

  • Dude, last time I checked if I have correct sight alignment and correct sight picture even in a rushed shot my bullet doesn't hit off axis by 15-20 degrees. Trust me, game is jacked. USPSA three gun and 8 years in the Marine Corps tells me this...

  • @speedfreak247 THIS. This is exactly what I'm trying to say to all the folks who are asking me to 'quickscope' in real life. The fact is that a correctly zeroed weapon should and will hit what it's aiming at.

  • @terminox this is being fixed with the next patch

  • It's called lag.

  • @xrymoar no ,, lol NO ! :P

  • Its true i saw something like that on my assault rifles, sometimes when i shoot someone he isnt getting hits or it takes 30 ammo to put him down even on HC. But sometimes it shoot normal and i kill everybody with few bullets. And when i cant hit enemies mostly i die but suddenly after a few mins i am able to kill again. What should i take on then? 3.4x m145?

  • Wouldn't suppressors decrease the accuracy?

  • @adrianbeloo only hipfire. When ADS they actually decrease spread (except all sniper rifles but SKS have 0 spread when ADS).

  • @adrianbeloo No, modern suppressors actually increase velocity and reduce recoil (recoil impulse is stretched out over longer amount of time) . Both ingredients for greater accuracy.

  • Hey tard if you are moving while u shoot u dont hit the target or if u shoot too fast as u did alot in this video. Thumbs up so he can see

  • They are probably trying to emulate the weight of a big gun like that, what makes me confused is that not all sniper rifles got this effect.

  • Not that this is your problem, but suppression tends to make Sniper Shots fly off to the side. I notice it a lot when I have a perfect headshot on someone from about 100m or so, they shoot a couple shots at me and I suddenly miss completely on what should have been a clear cut kill.

    Some of the examples in this video are ridiculous though when you had no reason to miss.

  • I dont get why there are so many thumbs down

  • @xBALLISTICSPROx cause a sniper is for sniping as is quick scoping is for modern warfare

  • Its because ur moving while you shoot.

  • I have been using the M98B lately and WTF? I Aim at them when they don't move and I fire but it misses and goes right beside them I mean WTF!

  • its always been like that. youre moving in ads.

  • Amen man ..also sometimes you can hit someone with pistol fire like 5 times in a row and sometimes they don't go down...its really bad when its a head shot and they dont go down..either way.....i still really like the game alot...

  • Wow, terminox. You seem to have a lot of dumb haters.

    Keep the videos coming, I actually enjoy them.

  • This isnt CoD, so why ur darting around with a sniper doesnt make any sense to me. And, if u havent tried actual sniping in the game yet, you'll realize... Moving while shooting actually makes your shot a hell of a lot less accurate.

    If u pay attention to the shots that drastically miss, most times your moving around, jumping, of just straightup missing the target. (Which happens!) But seriously man... Learn your class.

  • @Zacharyemerson Aggressive sniping is a valuable asset to the team kid. He's able to plant beacons and sensors close to the enemy as well as provide great suppression apart from killing the enemies ofcourse. I don't see him doing 360 no scopes cause you'll get your ass handed to you if you try that in BF3. And in the footage here he isn't moving all that much, the barrel looks pretty stable to me when he shoots. Those shots should be dead on. Instead they miss by several meters, that's his point

  • 1:07 NICE SHOT! I'm being serious, you hit the beam with true MLG skills :0

  • That's what you get for CQC sniping in hardcore, one of the main reasons I don't play hardcore.

  • its because you use a supressor i think read the discription if u change things n your weapon....... the supressor makes the weapon inacurate its logical

  • At the shot when the recon was on the catwalk and you zoomed in and fired, when you zoomed out, it looked like you just finished jumping. Still got quite a few kills though :)

  • that is BS it is like COD now LAME

  • Wow, those are fast reflexs :o Amazing shooting man! Keep up the vids! :D

  • What is this one-shot-kill gun? This is disgusting, drop that shit and use a proper weapon for a fair fire fight while you go for objectives.

  • The purpose of snipers isn't running around like a loser spamming shots... Take your time on your shots with bolt actions... it only takes one shot... I get it must times.

  • why complain, you were killing the shit out of everybody still :)

  • you know, suppressors reduce your accuracy

  • I read that they are going to patch this soon.

  • nooo its because u are moving to much

  • it's funny how many of you guys are trying to justify this when alan kertz himself said that this problem will be addressed in the future.

  • Everything happens to fast, since u are using that sight the aiming happens alot faster than the weapon actually is suppose to, so its nearly like noscoping. Dice have not done anything wrong here, this is realistic and its suppose to happend. And u can see alittle movement while aiming and shooting, that also makes it more unstable, and the sniper are not meant to move aim and shoot at the same time. =)

  • moving and a silencer both give penalitys when in ads (i know the silencer does it to lmgs tho im not sure if it does it for the rest)

  • it because he isnt waiting long enough after running

  • i have an idea, use a sniper like its supposed to be used, with a scope, and bipod, from a distance. but anyways i agree with MrPhantompants you were still most of those shots.

  • All Rifels are like that..... Fly a Plane LIKE A BOSS

  • I think that the problem comes from the fact that this gun isn't actually using the ballistic engine the same way as the SVP, for example do. The bullet is not physically present, just like with shotguns. Maybe it explains the deviation.

  • That's actually annoying. Strange. I gotta study this

  • Random deviation. This is increased by moving while aming. Be a more passive sniper.

  • if people pay attention to the description of the suppressor for bf3 it clearly states that the suppressor decreases the accuracy of the weapon

  • it's called suppresion, which means even if you aim at the head it can and probably will miss

  • its bf3 not modern warfare.. its not like a kodak, point and shoot

  • its a close quarters combat scope it lowers longer range accuracy

  • You tink its COD 2 where you can be a master with a rifle? haha, its BF3 the most realistic game ever!

    in Real life you wont quick scope!

  • Thanks for the upload. I have the same prob! Thats the reason this game sukage so mutch, beside a S load of other bugs, and lalalalalal.

  • ALL the weapons in the game give you an accuracy penalty when ADS and moving.

    Don't be noob!

  • @ClintBeastmode Try make some shots in real life, if u r not firing a machine gun all the rest u must point, shot and hit the target, theres no movement insue, theres no penaltie... it can be a red dot, a laser sight, or the iron ones, u point, shot and hit the target...

  • @ClintBeastmode Yeah exactly, it's retarded, if the gun is pointing at someone it should hit them, that is one thing I love about CoD.

  • @TAS0AadvarK lolwut? CoD doesn't even have a bullet trajectory. Point, pull trigger and head explodes as if you're firing a high powered laser that travels at lightspeed. It's not retarded to have a bullet path in a game, it's genius. The CQB optics just need to be tweeked a little for the sniper rifles. CoD's retarded let's get the record straight here.

  • @AshTheMohican You really have no idea what this video is about do you? also I dislike the new CoDs overall it's just BF3 has some things that really piss me off, mostly bugs and the such and the way the devs say that stupid things are "overpowered" (yes I'm looking at you FAMAS/F2000/AEK-971) and "patch" them when they really aren't

  • there is a lot of game play shit in BF3 that doesn't make any sense in terms of a video game. Sure, "real life blah blah blah" is fine, but this isn't real life, it's a video game where the coding needs to work or else the game has major major issues.

    A few thing need to be fixed.

  • the only thing i can think is that it's a gradual nerf(?) 50/50 it's also a bug albeit a small one. You got skill though, don't limit yourself to such cheapery

  • probably cuz of silencer?

  • If you have ever shot a rifle in real life you'll no that the slighest tilt left, right, up or down can dramatically alter the flight path

  • @fsxaviator I've fired an extensive assortment of firearms in real life and only the broken ones didn't hit directly where they were aimed at. Besides, this is a game.

  • @terminox yea, but when you were firing real weapons you weren't quick scoping were you? putting a long rifle into aim position and align the sites perfectly in less than a second is difficult

  • @terminox When using a sniper rifle especially bolt action in real life and in this game you can't aim and shoot rapidly because there is a chance that your bullet will miss if you don't wait for you gun to stabilize from the movement.

  • @terminox I think you're better off with either the iron sight or the ACOG. Can you post a vid of you doing aggressive recon with an ACOG sight to see which scope is actually better for aggressive sniping?

  • @fsxaviator Awesomely true, but this is a "game." And I hope you know that by now - Peace

  • @fsxaviator balistic trajectory - flight path. same dif

  • Terminox there is also a movement penalty with all guns while aiming down range.

  • Oh shit you said that something is wrong with the game now all fans are going to flip ape shit...

  • maybe its lag? o.o

  • @pepperfy can't be, he stands still and shoots and the bullet goes off from the sight very badly. maybe some shots are lagg when the targets are running but this is just a very bad bug.

  • i play like u and it happens to me a lot...i have notice that when u aim and move sideways thats what happens...so u have to stop for 1 sec and shot then move and stop again and shot...and that's really annoying...

  • 0:20 less freerunning pl0x roflllll fucking ninja jump over the guy.

  • its cause this is not call of duty and dice guys make some difference between skills and fucking "cool" quckscoping with cqb

  • I dont think the optics are broken but weapon posision when you are moving , i noticed you only miss when you are moving , when you stop and shoot it is always hit, dont know if you ever played paintball or airsoft but when you try to aim and walk than shoot it is almost impossible to hit something even if you aim good the walking makes little moves with your weapon and that change direction of your bullets for me its good because of the same feeling from painball.

  • it happens to me, too.

    but I think it´s because you are moving while aiming+firing.

    When you lay down and aim and just move one of your sticks a tiny bit so that you barely see it moving and THEN fire at someone there´s no chance hiting him.

    Just like in your vid the bullet will hit 2 meters off target.

  • love the last kill XD

  • noob -.-

  • yh yh man thas is big proplem

  • This is what happens when 40 year old realism nerds who own Christian HC crouch-only servers become the voice of the community. I remember in BC2 they spoke out against quickscoping or "unrealistic movement" (ie. sprinting, jumping to evade shots). Guess they got what they wanted.

  • i hate quickscopers. DICE said they dont want quickscopers in bf3, ppl should respect that :P

  • NO quik scoping For YOU! >:D

  • @Jhon47807 Wrong. I do it plenty in my SV98 video, but that's without optics. Firing immediately after zooming is fine. True Quickscoping, as seen in COD is where you can fire with perfect accuracy DURING the zoom in, and yes, I also think that's retarded. This however, is not.

  • this kinda looks like lag compensation issues. what platform is this?

  • @terminox believe it or not, CoD quickscoping involves shooting directly after the zoom in. The object is to get it so quick that the in game lag makes it look like you are shooting someone during the zoom in. I am not a fanboy, but I have quickscoped before. BF3 beats any CoD game by a lot.

  • lol how can retards say he's moving when in a lot of the shots he is quite clearly standing perfectly still stop being butt hurt fan boys and actually accept that there are bugs in this game so we can get them fixed

  • @MrPhantompants Some of the comments on my videos make me laugh, others make me cry. Some, like the ones you're describing, just make me scratch my head as I wonder if they watched the video before commenting.

  • @terminox I see your point in this being a bother, so try removing the suppressor, because that is junk

  • Are u f kidding man?! It's only cause you are moving!!!!!

  • so in hardcore servers the m40 and sv8? is one shoot kill? im asking because i see your another video with out optics.

  • maybe a lag

  • @BuddyOrange No he is moving when he shoots

  • it's to stop quickscoping, as you may or may not know... this ain't Call of Duty.

  • i can say u wat to do

    DONT BE A FUCKING SNIPER FAGGOT

  • This happens to me on black ops so I quit playin it

  • did dice buff the bolt actions? Cause I havnt played in a while and before I took a break the only way I would get a sniper kill was if it was a headshot.

  • They should just add a moving cross hair indicator for you to tell if you're still inside the accuracy delay so you know when to pull the trigger. I don't mind the delay cause it prevents quick scoping which will turn BF3 into MW3.

  • but seriosly who uses such scope on a sniper rifle just noobs

  • i accidently teamkilled my friend this way once. then i got kicked -.-

  • It's like JazzLover747 said, "because you are moving". BF is not for quickscopers, go play MW or something.

  • It's not BF3's problem, you're clearly a master assassin who curves your bullets. Stop trying to defy the laws of physics and play fair like the rest of us.

    ...

    *runs away to avoid curve-snipe*

  • @Wratix it all depends on the weapon and accually your sensitivity. i lower it a little bit and it made a world of difference. also some of the weapons have a lot of recoil in that game so it makes it hard to hit people. if you have it try the F2000. i like to use it because its pretty good

  • @Davo5673 its probably because you cant use a sniper rifle in BF3 for shit.

  • asjazzlover747 said. it is because you are moving.

    but we all know. recon. is for faggots.