The right wing has hijacked the word socialist to make it sound as bad as communism. Thats another one of their lies. New Zealand has a far right party (that is similar to your Republicans) called ACT. They only get around 3-8% support. The communist party doesn't even rate. Yet we are more capitalist AND socialist than the U.S! How does that work? Easy, we've figured out that there is a middle ground where the two systems complement each other. They work better together!
We know Fox is a propaganda channel and Glenn Beck is a nutter. The rightist/capitalists in the U.S are all hypocrites. The US is one of the most protectionist/socialist countries in the world. My country has more social welfare than the U.S and we are WAY more capitalist than the US. Since 1984 we've had one of the most laissez-faire economies on earth. We have zero subsidies or tariffs. None! Still the U.S won't sign a free trade agreement with us. China has though! Pwned by China you are.
You are stunningly acurate in your assessment of what the average world citizen sees when they look at america. We know most americans think america IS the 'world' (I once asked a lady I was ordering product from where she was in the states. She told me her state '..*..' and I asked where in america that was. She didn't know. I tried to help, I asked which coast she was nearest to. she didn't know. east or west? She didn't know! New York or California? She didn't know!!! Scary and sad).
Forcing people to buy insurance is unconstitutional. Plain and simple. This legislation isn't going to fix a damn thing. It won't even be put into effect for 3 or more years, but we'll all have the privilege (?) of paying the taxes.
Yes, let's go all the way and remove all of the socialist programs. I am all in favor.
Oh, you mean like forcing people to buy insurance because you are a crook , or pay taxes so your spawn can go to school ? First give me back my taxes for your kids and paying for your grandma'a surgery and for putting out the fire you leaving the iron , or you getting put in jail foe wife beating because I'm tired of paying for you inability to pay for everything. Stealing from you ??? You are the crook ! Bow you can pay for your OWN health insurance !
I'm not forcing you to buy or pay for a thing, nor would I ever support such. Ever. And you certainly haven't paid for my non-existent children's education or for any of the rest of whatever it is you think I have or did.
A vote for mandatory anything is a vote for theft. Plain and simple. You are free to give up your money to pay for others. You want to continue to vote for theft because your money has already been stolen from you? Sad.
Give me back all the taxes I pay & I'll leave you to your fat cat rip off insurance companies. No medicare, no more employer paid health insurance , EVERYTHING I BUY PAYS FOR YOUR LAZY BUTT ! It's added to the cost of every product COMRADE ! You& your careless behind can pay for your own idiot skiing accident , cancer treatment for chugging whiskey & cigarettes. You want freedom, so do I . Until the day comes you free me from YOUR BURDEN YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR OWN ! Get over it.
There is no forcing these companies to compete. Until the federal government decides to lift restrictions keeping people from buying health insurance across state lines, there will be no competition. The United States government has never been able to successfully run a company and yet you would like to put them in charge of your health care? See Amtrak and the USPS for examples of governmental failure.
Are you kidding ? Since its reorganization into an independent organization, the USPS has become self-sufficient and has not received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s. E-mail has forced the postal service to look to other sources of revenue but it still works . It's a tired argument based on republican BS . USPS was built as an entity to help Americans communicate and were it not to exist you would be paying 4x to 20x the cost for shipping. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT A PUBLIC OPTION DOES !
Now since you mention Amtrak, no form of passenger transportation in the US is self-sufficient . Highways, airports, and air traffic control all require large government expenditures to build and operate, coming from the Highway Trust Fund and Aviation Trust Fund paid for by user fees, highway fuel and road taxes, and, in the case of the General Fund, by people who own cars . It was never built to be self sufficient and intentionally underfunded.
I like to think that I am not ignorant. I read a couple of the previous versions of the bill. I haven't had a chance to do so with the newest version. I do agree with that all people should be covered regardless of 'pre-existing conditions,' especially since I'm one of those. But I don't agree that it should be mandated. I can't afford it right now. I realize that there will be subsidies, but I don't want help. I want to earn it on my own.
Sorry but there are people out there that can't wait for you to "afford " it. If you don't pay we pay for you anyway. I suggest that your pride should not come before those who need it. The costs wont go down until we can force these companies to compete.
You say that if i 'don't pay we pay for you anyway.' That's another reason I am against it. Since I know I'm under the poverty level- other people would have to pay for me. And I'm against that. It is not right for anyone to have to pay for me. I'll just stop here. I don't expect to change your mind. I just wanted to get out my opinion.
In all honesty, I am serious, please tell me. 1) The government has no money that it doesn't take first from a US citizen. 2) If you don't pay the tax they say you owe, they come to your house and put you in jail until you pay it.
If someone showed up at your door with a gun and demanded money to pay for their operation would you cheerfully hand them your hard earned money. As a taxpayer why should I be forced to pay for some strangers healthcare?
The public option is paid for by the people using it so your baloney about using tax dollars is incorrect. I have been paying for strangers health care my whole life. I'm on the same plan as idiots who go skiing, skateboarding, water skiing , mountain climbing, car racing , high diving , marathon running, people who smoke , drink , are overweight . I'm paying for these idiots to risk their limbs ! Why should I have to pay for these people taking risks ?? They are stealing me money even now !
You mean like when I pay for your kids school, or you parents medical attention, or pay for the police to investigate your robbery or the firemen to put out a fire you carelessly started or like when I pay for the roads and services you get, food stamps, unemployment insurance or your welfare . . . so we must be communists already right ? Dream on ! You haven't a clue what you are talking about ! The Public Option IS NOT FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT ! It is a 0 profit entity.
im fairly certain that BO would fail 8th grade math, what with his "jobs saved or created" bullshit. of course you think america is stupid, your surrounded by liberal idiots.
sorry about this being so long, there was a lot of stupid in your video that needed to be addressed. also, good job with the comment filtering, you would have liked the communist regimes of the past, speech was filtered there too
Well not having brought a single real figure into the debate explains why you would assume such a ridiculous thing. You haven't a clue yourself so your grasping at straws. I filter because a lot of right wingers tend to babble incessantly , make personal attacks and threats. They are incapable of debate so like children they just insult.
you filter because you like the power it gives you, and its really sad. if you put your oppinions on the interwebs, you are going to be made fun of and disagreed with, especially when you post such inane comments as your videos. grow a spine and deal with it.
In what sad little world do you live where you think I have to take your personal insults ? You want to debate , fine, I'm all for it. You want to insult , I have a button here marked *remove*. Your ability to post goes only as far as my patience with your insults. Be aware of that fact and stick to the subject. Given that you haven't a single video of yourself up I wouldn't be calling other people *spineless*.
the "option" will kill private healthcare, again, watch confederalsocialist's videos and you might get a real idea of what your talking about. besides the fact that your lying about the % of people who can't find the us on a map, even if it were true, it would show that our education system was horrible, which it is, and the solution is to get a leader in who knows anything to begin with.
Lol ! Baloney, the American people are being repeatedly raped by the highest cost , lowest quality per dollar heathcare in the world . We are sicker, go bankrupt and put off proper treatment till it's catostrophic and we enjoy a 40% denial rate. A 20 year old man here is in the same health as a 60 year old in England ! The industry had it's chance to regulate itself and instead chose GREED ! Why should anyone care if they fail ? They have murdered people through fraud ! Let them burn !
medicare denies 2x as many people as the average private carrier, and the lodge system provided an even lower (almost zero) denial rate. even the worst denial rates are like 7%. also, the us and uk have about the same health, based on life expectancy. the uk is ahead of us by less than 1 year.
Sorry but given the constant lies provide links . The denial rates are more like 40% here, insurance companies hire teams of investigators to pour over the medical histories of claimies , look for loop holes to take their money . 65% of bankruptcies in the US are from medical costs, 75% of those are the insured. Try the same #'s in England and get back to me with links . A average 60 year old British man is in the same health as a 20 year old American. Look up :
wow, your a moron. your insanity is over whelming, just look at any god damn liberal protest in the last 8 years. burning things, calling bush hitler, threating him with death etc. your just like gibbs, you have doublethought the last 8 years out of your memory. glenn is less insane than you, and has a functioning brain, unlike you.
Sorry but Tim McVeigh and all you right wingers are the ones threatening & murdering people. Name one liberal who murdered anyone. And they were totally wrong, Bush isn't smart enough to be Hitler. Hitler resurrected Germany into a superpower, Bush took a superpower and turned it into a poverty stricken 12 % unemployment , 3d world country.
of course you would support hitler, and our unemployment rates were lower during the bush era than the obama era, having recently hit 10.2 percent, the highest in 26 years, since jimmy carter. and for a liberal killer, Lee Harvey Oswald, the guy who shot JFK. un like you i acknowledge that there are insane people in "my party"
No, I never said I support Hitler, I said Hitler was intelligent, took a country from poverty to wealth in an amazingly short time. Bush , barely a functioning retarded person , took it from incredible wealth to poverty but it's not the same thing. The growth that bush enjoyed & the high numbers in housing construction were what gave Bush good employment #s, of course we know that as the housing bubble now so it was a fraud. Obama's #'s are the result of Bushes destroying the economy.
I'll give you one shining example of how wrong you are. The ex Soviet Union. If government control works and government collectvism works then why did the USSR crumble? You want lower premiums on health care. Then tell the government to go after lawyers like John Edward who became a multi millionare by sueing hospitals. That is a massive part of the cost of health care. Take government controlled education. Scores of children have gone down since the day government took education over.
Socialism , despite your complete and total ignorance is not communism ,so your reference to the Soviet Union has as much validity as a one year old talking about brain surgery. The cost of health insurance has absolutely nothing to do with lawyers fees. NOTHING ! I am letting your post through just to embarrass you . Read a book, research something instead of being spoon fed stupidity by other fools. Sheesh.
What is fascinating about education is not that the scores of children have gone down but just how flat out ignorant the parents are. Just look at the teabagger video's and see what uneducated , bigoted and ignorant simpletons they are. It's like the Beverly Hillbillies come to life. As an American it turns my stomach to think the world can see this display as an example . It makes us vulnerable to attack because we are no match for other nations educationally.
Now get this through your head, the police, the fireman , schools , medicaid , medicare, unemployment , the people who build your roads and all the other services you enjoy ARE SOCIALISM ! Not sort of, THEY ARE SOCIALISM ! Britain ,Canada , France , Italy and Germany are not communist you dope ! I can barely stand to repeat this reply to you as you are more a zombie than you are a person.
Umm, I will try to keep this polit, Only because you are seriously Big Time SEXY !! Anyway I am from Canada and I live here in Ontario Canada, And yes we do have socialized medicine, Lets just say your having a heart attack, Then you will be looked after right away, Its a triage system, That would apply anywhere in any hospital, But just recently I went to nearest emergency room because
Thank you for your politeness. I was born in Canada and lived there most of my life. A broken arm here costs 35,000 or around 38,000 Canadian. Can you afford that ? Have you ever paid for that ? Try this, the denial rate is around 40% (that means you pay for it ) here and the vast majority of all bankruptcies here are for medical costs. How about in Canada , what 0% of bankruptcies in Canada are from medical costs ? Fascinating isn't it ?
I am totally fascinated by Canadians dissing their own system when they only have the tiniest inkling of what a living hell awaits you in private insurance land. People die here . A woman's child got sick , showed up at the nearest hospital that apparently wasn't in her Kaiser group , they wouldn't treat the child and KICKED HER PHYSICALLY out of the hospital and the child died in transit. Polite to me ? I'm can give you as many reasons as you want to thank god for your OHIP !
Unfortunately , that is what they want. They have a 40% denial rate and sooner or later one of those patients is going to decide to take their insurance agent with them.
The view from outside America, from all these countries who for decades have enjoyed cheaper, universal and better health care, is that America as a nation has buried it's sorry, dead head in Disneyland. Listen, "patriots", why not privatise roads, the police and your army if you want to er...stop communism like they have in er...Sweden and Australia? We used to think you were nice people with an insane president, now the reverse is true. Oh, and loved this darliegoddess, -subscribed.
It is a painful truth. These same people under the guise of patriotism allowed the bombing and occupation of an innocent country that many still defend that lie today. What hurts me is to see these people spout uninformed ignorance and outright lies. Most of them haven't a clue what communism is and if you ask them questions what is obvious is they have been told what to do, they have no clue what they are saying.
We are virtually a socialist country now yet they feel that after the incredible abuses of the private insurers that that is better ? I fear that we are too stupid to survive, That our ignorance is so soul deep that perhaps we should just let go , flee to an outside country and let them beat themselves to death with stupidity.
Oh and anyone who still thinks we are the epitome of capitalism is sorely mistaken. If they knew their history they'd know we've been a quasi-socialist country ever since FDR, and his policies created the largest and most affluent middle class ever.
Not sure about the reference to communism, if you look around the world today, the only countries left economically sound are commy countries, I mean chk out Perestroika - it was a nobel peace prize winner.
Anywayz, we are in a conflict of traditional and futuristic ideals, traditionals like to keep the power and futuristics like to share it.
Un-Education is the winner in the keeping the population under control, just go over the heads and people soon forget......
I am in complete agreement but lt me go one step farther . The claim at free enterprise is a sham. We are a group of monopolies that have lobbyists that buy votes. Everything is like a story in Star Trek where a civilization is too dragged down by primitive belief to advance. What amazes me most is the willing participation in that self deception .The incredible ease with which they fight against anything beneficial and fight for our worst instincts.
there is an end to the money trail, it stops at the world banks, the ones that lend money to countries for whatever, eg stimulus.
They actually dictate where the funds go coz they simply refuse to loan at their discresion based on whatever ?!!?
So really, they call the shots, we are left to fight over the crumbs that finally come our way past the pricey red tape (shit I can buy red tape for F/all-lol).
NZ and Holland are independant and the most progressive. <3U
I love Australia, not only are they devilishly clever , they are terribly charming. America is a warning to all countries of how even the most powerful country in the world can fail.
If you can't buy it, you shouldn't bitch that you don't have it.
Humans--and all creatures, for that matter--natural state is poverty and taking care OF THEMSELVES, not expecting handouts!
If we CHOOSE to pay for another's health-care, that's one thing. We must not be FORCED to pay for those we choose not to. That's not sharing, it's theft!
The Government should force insurance companies to pay back after taking Premiums for years, but I digress!!
First , thank you for leaving your racist comment on profile. That best illustrates your ignorance like nothing I could ever have said would EPGAH . No actually we are ranked 39th in the world behind every civilized country with government healthcare. We pay twice the next highest costs and are the least health . A 20 year old American is in worse health than a 60 year old Brit. Oh and it's not the people without healthcare that are suffering though 22,000 of them die a year needlessly.
Americans , despite your false connection to the expense meaning the best , are in the worst health in the civilized world. I am thankful though that you feel that we no longer need to pay for schools, police, firemen and every other shared cost we are FORCED to pay. Lol!
Here in Australia, we have Medicare, which covers visits to your GP, emergency stuff and so on. It even covers "elective surgery", such as knee replacements, if you can stand the wait. A large proportion of the population augment the universal Medicare with private health cover for about a thousand dollars a year.
Many European countries have a mix of private and public.
The best result comes from picking the bet of public and private.
Niles, I really hesitate to post these because you clearly have not read a thing. It is an "Optional " Insurance plan, not a "free insurance " plan. The only difference is that they DO NOT WORK FOR PROFIT. Not only will it lower costs for everyone because the government, being such a large entity , can negotiate prices. That means even if you stay with your murdering , for profit, private leeches, YOU WILL PAY LESS ! ! Plus you will be healthier and able to compete better with outside labor.
Oh really, was this not your question ? It's followed by a question mark, the international symbol of curiosity.
"WHO will pay ?"
Perhaps on your planet these ? are symbols of assertion rather than questions. Please , if you respond do so in single spacing or I will not publish them. Thanks.
Oh I see , you wanted to know who you pay your government insurance to ! Like if you write out a check , is it made out to "Government Healthcare " or is it made out to "The United States Government " or perhaps the "United States Insurance Plan " . Maybe it's like tax and you make it out to "The Franchise Tax Board". ? Yeah , it's hard to know who you will pay your government insurance to. Martians maybe ?
All you have to do is look at the MILLIONS they insurance companies are paying to create fake groups , advertise and you will know why this is such a threat. They know that after years of abusing their victims that the public option will be flocked to by the public, even those with private health care. Lets see shall we if years of service has created a loyal consumer base for them.
Problem is, the insurance companies are still profit-driven. Now they have a much larger customer base to gouge with excessive premiums to feed their ginormous overhead. After all, they need to maximize profits for their shareholders! Anything else would be irresponsible business.
Here's where, from my understanding, the public option steps in. It would provide nonprofit competition to keep private insurers from gouging their now captive customer base.
Well , NO ! As I understand it , it is consumer choice. That means that you can stay with your present ETNA, CIGNA , Blue Cross whatever. Pay whatever sky high premiums & live in poverty. The public option is for the people who private insurance refuses to cover, who can't afford a $1000 a month or forgot to mention they had a minor yeast infection in 1968 and were dumped ( yes the do do that ). The nurses association outed these companies with sometimes a 40% denial rate ?
No company is forced to do anything ! That's Glenn Beck lunacy , you can't force a private company to keep people on. That's ridiculous and way beyond the governments power. Irresponsible business ?! You mean like how they are denying totally legitimate claims to meet a quota, in essence murdering people. For SICKO Moore asked for healthcare horror stories and got over 25,000 in the first few days. The number one cause of bankruptcy is medical expenses. Responsible business ! Lol!
There is nothing responsible about these companies. Our families have been maximizing their profits by dying. That is what the system is set up to do and the healthcare companies know it. The reason they are illegally forcing their employees to attend town halls and disrupt to save their jobs, Wellpoint and other have already been caught and are in deep trouble for this.
After reading your responses, I don't think I came across right. I agree with you far more than you think. I know about the insurance companies' campaign of mis-information, causing ill-informed citizens to protest against reform that would help them. I also saw SiCKO and thought it was excellent. I am for single-payer. I was just curious about your understanding of the public option since my understanding was slightly (again slightly) different.
I have had tons of conservative friends see Sicko and while they still don't trust Moore they said they thought that Sicko was very well done. I'm for single payer but that wont happen. The drug and health insurance lobby are too well funded. The public option though would put a huge amount of power in the governments hands to drive down prices by creating REAL competition in both the insurance and healthcare industry. Is capitalism not about just that competition ?
Cont... Wow, my rant made me spill over into a second comment! Sorry 'bout that. I'll get to my point.
My understanding of the public option is slightly different from what you said, but only slightly. From what I've gathered, proposed health care reform would make it illegal for insurance companies to drop people for getting sick, exclude them from coverage for preexisting conditions, etc. To spread the risk, there would be an "individual mandate" requiring everyone get coverage.
I share the same sense of horrified amusement. On the one hand, it's funny: DEATH panels, Obama secretly born in Kenya, Medicare/VA recipients freaked out at the idea of government health care. Hilarious, right?
Except - that - it's - WORKING!!! WTF?! My grandma loves Glenn Beck, my mom has a Rush Limbaugh screensaver, and two of my friends (one very close) believe that it's been absolutely proven -PROVEN- that Obama was born in Africa and so isn't really qualified to be president.
I'm a conservative but I'm an American first. I don't believe in Animal Farms "Some are more equal than others ". As a democrat you need to call these liars liars and stop worrying about party lines. These thugs wouldn't try this if the Democrats came off as half way confident. It's a corporately organized smear and you had better all get off your behinds quick. You are losing the country.
Death Panels, Obamas Birth Certificate, he's Muslim , his wife gave a terrorist high sign, he's recruiting children , he's a Nazi, a communist , he's racist and to top it all they got us into a failed war , w for 100 years , attacked the wrong country ,deregulated the banks and caused a world wide financial crisis , screwed millions of home owners , tortured prisoners , overpaid mercenaries paying our soldier 5x less ....
in the UK folks are more educated, sorry but it is the truth.. the reason health works in the UK is the base salaries are a bit higher and there is much less people than in the US.. the UK is not as in deep shhh as the US is right now. Yes reform the health system but do not socialize it thats the problem
We import the educated because our system is anti education, quick profit , low tech. You are a great example . I could list the mountain of reasons why reforming a "for profit" health care system is a ridiculous idea but you aren't capable of understanding. You simply repeat a mantra that you have been fed.
Maybe salaries seem higher in the UK, but so is our cost s412100000...
Don't compare things if you don't know how to compare!
Just as healthcare can work in the US, if the greed and total disregard for people is taken out and the system is replaced with a non-profit system that is focussed on the well being of people!
at this very moment social medecine will ruin the country even more..
this are the ones that want social medecine:
liberals that make no more than 30k a year and are usually part time so they dont get health benefits
for any body that makes more than 40K the taxes increase exponentialy nuts, these are the poeple who will pay for the whole enchilada, why would they want health care that way???
if you make 50K/year = 4166/month you only take home $3200/month
Liberals make no more than 30 k a year ?! Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds ?! Honey, it's you think all those rednecks with tractor hats are making big money ? I doubt that anyone could understand a single thing you are trying to say it's so confused. Thank you for typing something here on YT.
I am ? Please prove that one ! Were we destroyed between 1960-77 ? We had and lost Vietnam war , 50,000 Americans for nothing thanks to republican lies, we had our leaders assassinated by republican hate mongers, then Reaganomics began the destruction of the economy by using horses ass theories like trickle down ". A theory economists still laugh at today.
I was born in Canada, my family still lives there and Beck makes up the same lies about them James . What is fascinating is not that the British French and Canadian systems are better , but by how vastly superiority they are .
We wouldn't even be having this discussion if not for Insurance Company operatives whipping up fear based propaganda. Disgraced former Columbia Health CEO Rick Scott's Conservatives for "Patient Rights" is helping lead the disinfo campaign with slick TV commercials and its own youtube channel: C4PatientsRights. Fortunately they can't be bothered to moderate their comments, so feel free to zip over there and savage its lying videos.
I feel like I am watching a movie and this man is disintegrating in front of me. Making crazy schizophrenic word associations , insane doomsday predictions ....... his advertisers have all left and Rupert Murdock is holding him up in public view like so we can watch him melt down in full view. Even Coulter and Malkin are dissing him.
Health care is a human right. There are things that should not be profit driven, health care and prisons are two of them. The current system leaves 46 million Americans without any health care coverage. Eighteen thousand of those Americans will die this year because of that. I place each and everyone of those deaths at the feet of any politician that opposes a single payer health care system.
Well I place it at the feet of the public who don't look into the republican lies they are fed. On top of the 50 million uninsured , 80 million are inadequately covered and don't find out till it completely bankrupts them.
The right wing has hijacked the word socialist to make it sound as bad as communism. Thats another one of their lies. New Zealand has a far right party (that is similar to your Republicans) called ACT. They only get around 3-8% support. The communist party doesn't even rate. Yet we are more capitalist AND socialist than the U.S! How does that work? Easy, we've figured out that there is a middle ground where the two systems complement each other. They work better together!
68spaceman 1 year ago
We know Fox is a propaganda channel and Glenn Beck is a nutter. The rightist/capitalists in the U.S are all hypocrites. The US is one of the most protectionist/socialist countries in the world. My country has more social welfare than the U.S and we are WAY more capitalist than the US. Since 1984 we've had one of the most laissez-faire economies on earth. We have zero subsidies or tariffs. None! Still the U.S won't sign a free trade agreement with us. China has though! Pwned by China you are.
68spaceman 1 year ago
You are stunningly acurate in your assessment of what the average world citizen sees when they look at america. We know most americans think america IS the 'world' (I once asked a lady I was ordering product from where she was in the states. She told me her state '..*..' and I asked where in america that was. She didn't know. I tried to help, I asked which coast she was nearest to. she didn't know. east or west? She didn't know! New York or California? She didn't know!!! Scary and sad).
68spaceman 1 year ago
Forcing people to buy insurance is unconstitutional. Plain and simple. This legislation isn't going to fix a damn thing. It won't even be put into effect for 3 or more years, but we'll all have the privilege (?) of paying the taxes.
Yes, let's go all the way and remove all of the socialist programs. I am all in favor.
Don't steal from me.
kjax76 2 years ago
Oh, you mean like forcing people to buy insurance because you are a crook , or pay taxes so your spawn can go to school ? First give me back my taxes for your kids and paying for your grandma'a surgery and for putting out the fire you leaving the iron , or you getting put in jail foe wife beating because I'm tired of paying for you inability to pay for everything. Stealing from you ??? You are the crook ! Bow you can pay for your OWN health insurance !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
You don't even know what you're talking about.
I'm not forcing you to buy or pay for a thing, nor would I ever support such. Ever. And you certainly haven't paid for my non-existent children's education or for any of the rest of whatever it is you think I have or did.
A vote for mandatory anything is a vote for theft. Plain and simple. You are free to give up your money to pay for others. You want to continue to vote for theft because your money has already been stolen from you? Sad.
kjax76 2 years ago
Give me back all the taxes I pay & I'll leave you to your fat cat rip off insurance companies. No medicare, no more employer paid health insurance , EVERYTHING I BUY PAYS FOR YOUR LAZY BUTT ! It's added to the cost of every product COMRADE ! You& your careless behind can pay for your own idiot skiing accident , cancer treatment for chugging whiskey & cigarettes. You want freedom, so do I . Until the day comes you free me from YOUR BURDEN YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR OWN ! Get over it.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
There is no forcing these companies to compete. Until the federal government decides to lift restrictions keeping people from buying health insurance across state lines, there will be no competition. The United States government has never been able to successfully run a company and yet you would like to put them in charge of your health care? See Amtrak and the USPS for examples of governmental failure.
anooseholay 2 years ago
Are you kidding ? Since its reorganization into an independent organization, the USPS has become self-sufficient and has not received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s. E-mail has forced the postal service to look to other sources of revenue but it still works . It's a tired argument based on republican BS . USPS was built as an entity to help Americans communicate and were it not to exist you would be paying 4x to 20x the cost for shipping. IT IS EXACTLY WHAT A PUBLIC OPTION DOES !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Now since you mention Amtrak, no form of passenger transportation in the US is self-sufficient . Highways, airports, and air traffic control all require large government expenditures to build and operate, coming from the Highway Trust Fund and Aviation Trust Fund paid for by user fees, highway fuel and road taxes, and, in the case of the General Fund, by people who own cars . It was never built to be self sufficient and intentionally underfunded.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
I like to think that I am not ignorant. I read a couple of the previous versions of the bill. I haven't had a chance to do so with the newest version. I do agree with that all people should be covered regardless of 'pre-existing conditions,' especially since I'm one of those. But I don't agree that it should be mandated. I can't afford it right now. I realize that there will be subsidies, but I don't want help. I want to earn it on my own.
alliandrina 2 years ago
Sorry but there are people out there that can't wait for you to "afford " it. If you don't pay we pay for you anyway. I suggest that your pride should not come before those who need it. The costs wont go down until we can force these companies to compete.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
You say that if i 'don't pay we pay for you anyway.' That's another reason I am against it. Since I know I'm under the poverty level- other people would have to pay for me. And I'm against that. It is not right for anyone to have to pay for me. I'll just stop here. I don't expect to change your mind. I just wanted to get out my opinion.
alliandrina 2 years ago
No, if you get hospitalized NOW we pay , not after the PO is passed. So you would choose death and that is supposed to change my mind ? Sorry.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
In all honesty, I am serious, please tell me. 1) The government has no money that it doesn't take first from a US citizen. 2) If you don't pay the tax they say you owe, they come to your house and put you in jail until you pay it.
If someone showed up at your door with a gun and demanded money to pay for their operation would you cheerfully hand them your hard earned money. As a taxpayer why should I be forced to pay for some strangers healthcare?
weslingm 2 years ago
The public option is paid for by the people using it so your baloney about using tax dollars is incorrect. I have been paying for strangers health care my whole life. I'm on the same plan as idiots who go skiing, skateboarding, water skiing , mountain climbing, car racing , high diving , marathon running, people who smoke , drink , are overweight . I'm paying for these idiots to risk their limbs ! Why should I have to pay for these people taking risks ?? They are stealing me money even now !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Communist healthcare is when the government collects the money from individuals and business and provides healthcare.
weslingm 2 years ago
You mean like when I pay for your kids school, or you parents medical attention, or pay for the police to investigate your robbery or the firemen to put out a fire you carelessly started or like when I pay for the roads and services you get, food stamps, unemployment insurance or your welfare . . . so we must be communists already right ? Dream on ! You haven't a clue what you are talking about ! The Public Option IS NOT FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT ! It is a 0 profit entity.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Oh and if you write another insult like the last one I didn't publish I'm blocking your behind.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
im fairly certain that BO would fail 8th grade math, what with his "jobs saved or created" bullshit. of course you think america is stupid, your surrounded by liberal idiots.
sorry about this being so long, there was a lot of stupid in your video that needed to be addressed. also, good job with the comment filtering, you would have liked the communist regimes of the past, speech was filtered there too
zantrua 2 years ago
Well not having brought a single real figure into the debate explains why you would assume such a ridiculous thing. You haven't a clue yourself so your grasping at straws. I filter because a lot of right wingers tend to babble incessantly , make personal attacks and threats. They are incapable of debate so like children they just insult.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
you filter because you like the power it gives you, and its really sad. if you put your oppinions on the interwebs, you are going to be made fun of and disagreed with, especially when you post such inane comments as your videos. grow a spine and deal with it.
zantrua 2 years ago
In what sad little world do you live where you think I have to take your personal insults ? You want to debate , fine, I'm all for it. You want to insult , I have a button here marked *remove*. Your ability to post goes only as far as my patience with your insults. Be aware of that fact and stick to the subject. Given that you haven't a single video of yourself up I wouldn't be calling other people *spineless*.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
the "option" will kill private healthcare, again, watch confederalsocialist's videos and you might get a real idea of what your talking about. besides the fact that your lying about the % of people who can't find the us on a map, even if it were true, it would show that our education system was horrible, which it is, and the solution is to get a leader in who knows anything to begin with.
zantrua 2 years ago
Lol ! Baloney, the American people are being repeatedly raped by the highest cost , lowest quality per dollar heathcare in the world . We are sicker, go bankrupt and put off proper treatment till it's catostrophic and we enjoy a 40% denial rate. A 20 year old man here is in the same health as a 60 year old in England ! The industry had it's chance to regulate itself and instead chose GREED ! Why should anyone care if they fail ? They have murdered people through fraud ! Let them burn !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
medicare denies 2x as many people as the average private carrier, and the lodge system provided an even lower (almost zero) denial rate. even the worst denial rates are like 7%. also, the us and uk have about the same health, based on life expectancy. the uk is ahead of us by less than 1 year.
zantrua 2 years ago
Sorry but given the constant lies provide links . The denial rates are more like 40% here, insurance companies hire teams of investigators to pour over the medical histories of claimies , look for loop holes to take their money . 65% of bankruptcies in the US are from medical costs, 75% of those are the insured. Try the same #'s in England and get back to me with links . A average 60 year old British man is in the same health as a 20 year old American. Look up :
The Disappearing Male
darliegoddess 2 years ago
wow, your a moron. your insanity is over whelming, just look at any god damn liberal protest in the last 8 years. burning things, calling bush hitler, threating him with death etc. your just like gibbs, you have doublethought the last 8 years out of your memory. glenn is less insane than you, and has a functioning brain, unlike you.
zantrua 2 years ago
Sorry but Tim McVeigh and all you right wingers are the ones threatening & murdering people. Name one liberal who murdered anyone. And they were totally wrong, Bush isn't smart enough to be Hitler. Hitler resurrected Germany into a superpower, Bush took a superpower and turned it into a poverty stricken 12 % unemployment , 3d world country.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
of course you would support hitler, and our unemployment rates were lower during the bush era than the obama era, having recently hit 10.2 percent, the highest in 26 years, since jimmy carter. and for a liberal killer, Lee Harvey Oswald, the guy who shot JFK. un like you i acknowledge that there are insane people in "my party"
zantrua 2 years ago
No, I never said I support Hitler, I said Hitler was intelligent, took a country from poverty to wealth in an amazingly short time. Bush , barely a functioning retarded person , took it from incredible wealth to poverty but it's not the same thing. The growth that bush enjoyed & the high numbers in housing construction were what gave Bush good employment #s, of course we know that as the housing bubble now so it was a fraud. Obama's #'s are the result of Bushes destroying the economy.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Yeah , quicktime sucks !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
I am a Socialist and proud of it!
Being a Socialist should not be confused with totalitarianism (which is exactly the red-baiting Mc Carthy-esque mantra of Beck and the right wing).
I believe that we as a society benefit by taking care of our needs on a collective basis - especially healthcare..
Unfortunately, there are a lot of mean-spirited and hateful people in the world who do follow the Glen Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world.
riverwest1 2 years ago
I totally agree and think Beck and Limbaugh should be held accountable.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
I'll give you one shining example of how wrong you are. The ex Soviet Union. If government control works and government collectvism works then why did the USSR crumble? You want lower premiums on health care. Then tell the government to go after lawyers like John Edward who became a multi millionare by sueing hospitals. That is a massive part of the cost of health care. Take government controlled education. Scores of children have gone down since the day government took education over.
chrisarmes17 2 years ago
Socialism , despite your complete and total ignorance is not communism ,so your reference to the Soviet Union has as much validity as a one year old talking about brain surgery. The cost of health insurance has absolutely nothing to do with lawyers fees. NOTHING ! I am letting your post through just to embarrass you . Read a book, research something instead of being spoon fed stupidity by other fools. Sheesh.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
What is fascinating about education is not that the scores of children have gone down but just how flat out ignorant the parents are. Just look at the teabagger video's and see what uneducated , bigoted and ignorant simpletons they are. It's like the Beverly Hillbillies come to life. As an American it turns my stomach to think the world can see this display as an example . It makes us vulnerable to attack because we are no match for other nations educationally.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Now get this through your head, the police, the fireman , schools , medicaid , medicare, unemployment , the people who build your roads and all the other services you enjoy ARE SOCIALISM ! Not sort of, THEY ARE SOCIALISM ! Britain ,Canada , France , Italy and Germany are not communist you dope ! I can barely stand to repeat this reply to you as you are more a zombie than you are a person.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Umm, I will try to keep this polit, Only because you are seriously Big Time SEXY !! Anyway I am from Canada and I live here in Ontario Canada, And yes we do have socialized medicine, Lets just say your having a heart attack, Then you will be looked after right away, Its a triage system, That would apply anywhere in any hospital, But just recently I went to nearest emergency room because
langille00 2 years ago
Thank you for your politeness. I was born in Canada and lived there most of my life. A broken arm here costs 35,000 or around 38,000 Canadian. Can you afford that ? Have you ever paid for that ? Try this, the denial rate is around 40% (that means you pay for it ) here and the vast majority of all bankruptcies here are for medical costs. How about in Canada , what 0% of bankruptcies in Canada are from medical costs ? Fascinating isn't it ?
darliegoddess 2 years ago
I am totally fascinated by Canadians dissing their own system when they only have the tiniest inkling of what a living hell awaits you in private insurance land. People die here . A woman's child got sick , showed up at the nearest hospital that apparently wasn't in her Kaiser group , they wouldn't treat the child and KICKED HER PHYSICALLY out of the hospital and the child died in transit. Polite to me ? I'm can give you as many reasons as you want to thank god for your OHIP !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Unfortunately , that is what they want. They have a 40% denial rate and sooner or later one of those patients is going to decide to take their insurance agent with them.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
The view from outside America, from all these countries who for decades have enjoyed cheaper, universal and better health care, is that America as a nation has buried it's sorry, dead head in Disneyland. Listen, "patriots", why not privatise roads, the police and your army if you want to er...stop communism like they have in er...Sweden and Australia? We used to think you were nice people with an insane president, now the reverse is true. Oh, and loved this darliegoddess, -subscribed.
queny2 2 years ago
It is a painful truth. These same people under the guise of patriotism allowed the bombing and occupation of an innocent country that many still defend that lie today. What hurts me is to see these people spout uninformed ignorance and outright lies. Most of them haven't a clue what communism is and if you ask them questions what is obvious is they have been told what to do, they have no clue what they are saying.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
We are virtually a socialist country now yet they feel that after the incredible abuses of the private insurers that that is better ? I fear that we are too stupid to survive, That our ignorance is so soul deep that perhaps we should just let go , flee to an outside country and let them beat themselves to death with stupidity.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Oh and anyone who still thinks we are the epitome of capitalism is sorely mistaken. If they knew their history they'd know we've been a quasi-socialist country ever since FDR, and his policies created the largest and most affluent middle class ever.
thegrimmreeper 2 years ago
Personally I'm waiting fr right wing orchestrated riots. They'd probably put the LA riots to shame...
thegrimmreeper 2 years ago
They will be totally fun !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Heya Darlie.
Not sure about the reference to communism, if you look around the world today, the only countries left economically sound are commy countries, I mean chk out Perestroika - it was a nobel peace prize winner.
Anywayz, we are in a conflict of traditional and futuristic ideals, traditionals like to keep the power and futuristics like to share it.
Un-Education is the winner in the keeping the population under control, just go over the heads and people soon forget......
PurplenovaX 2 years ago
I am in complete agreement but lt me go one step farther . The claim at free enterprise is a sham. We are a group of monopolies that have lobbyists that buy votes. Everything is like a story in Star Trek where a civilization is too dragged down by primitive belief to advance. What amazes me most is the willing participation in that self deception .The incredible ease with which they fight against anything beneficial and fight for our worst instincts.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
LOL, 'warning, warning'
there is an end to the money trail, it stops at the world banks, the ones that lend money to countries for whatever, eg stimulus.
They actually dictate where the funds go coz they simply refuse to loan at their discresion based on whatever ?!!?
So really, they call the shots, we are left to fight over the crumbs that finally come our way past the pricey red tape (shit I can buy red tape for F/all-lol).
NZ and Holland are independant and the most progressive. <3U
PurplenovaX 2 years ago
Actually, stuff that, move here!!!!
100% of Aussies (ozzies) past 5yrs old know where Aust is AND UK AND USA and a whole heap more too!!
Education, Education, Education.
Investment for our future but more importantly our future generations.
We are smart, we sip champagne on the beach and watch the shit that happens over there on laptops - they have off buttons ROFL
PurplenovaX 2 years ago
I love Australia, not only are they devilishly clever , they are terribly charming. America is a warning to all countries of how even the most powerful country in the world can fail.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Actually, we have the best care MONEY CAN BUY.
If you can't buy it, you shouldn't bitch that you don't have it.
Humans--and all creatures, for that matter--natural state is poverty and taking care OF THEMSELVES, not expecting handouts!
If we CHOOSE to pay for another's health-care, that's one thing. We must not be FORCED to pay for those we choose not to. That's not sharing, it's theft!
The Government should force insurance companies to pay back after taking Premiums for years, but I digress!!
EPGAH 2 years ago
First , thank you for leaving your racist comment on profile. That best illustrates your ignorance like nothing I could ever have said would EPGAH . No actually we are ranked 39th in the world behind every civilized country with government healthcare. We pay twice the next highest costs and are the least health . A 20 year old American is in worse health than a 60 year old Brit. Oh and it's not the people without healthcare that are suffering though 22,000 of them die a year needlessly.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Americans , despite your false connection to the expense meaning the best , are in the worst health in the civilized world. I am thankful though that you feel that we no longer need to pay for schools, police, firemen and every other shared cost we are FORCED to pay. Lol!
darliegoddess 2 years ago
The extreme right wing is desperate. Prepare for things you have never seen before.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
ooWEEE!... another tinkerbell with the brains of a fense post.
tonysshadow 2 years ago
I can spell "fence" , how about you ? =)
darliegoddess 2 years ago
It's not quite that simple.
Here in Australia, we have Medicare, which covers visits to your GP, emergency stuff and so on. It even covers "elective surgery", such as knee replacements, if you can stand the wait. A large proportion of the population augment the universal Medicare with private health cover for about a thousand dollars a year.
Many European countries have a mix of private and public.
The best result comes from picking the bet of public and private.
eternalephemera 2 years ago
The healthcare debates are a smokescreen for the real problem
The current debates are about WHO will pay ?, but the real issue is WHO are we paying ?
The Wallstreet owned HMOs & insurance companies & Big Pharma companies
The Obama plan still pays the same people it just monetizes the debt obligation to the taxpayers
Just like the (Bush) bailouts &(Obama) stimulus bills it will help no one more than the financial elite
...and Obama says, The blue pills are cheaper :)
TheNilesLeshProject 2 years ago
Niles, I really hesitate to post these because you clearly have not read a thing. It is an "Optional " Insurance plan, not a "free insurance " plan. The only difference is that they DO NOT WORK FOR PROFIT. Not only will it lower costs for everyone because the government, being such a large entity , can negotiate prices. That means even if you stay with your murdering , for profit, private leeches, YOU WILL PAY LESS ! ! Plus you will be healthier and able to compete better with outside labor.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Thank you for taking the time to reply,
It was greatly appreciated
I am sorry that I cannot communicate my ideas clearly enough for you to understand
You seem to be answering a question that was never asked regarding ( "free insurance" ) ?
I wish you well in future endeavors
All the best !
Niles
TheNilesLeshProject 2 years ago
Oh really, was this not your question ? It's followed by a question mark, the international symbol of curiosity.
"WHO will pay ?"
Perhaps on your planet these ? are symbols of assertion rather than questions. Please , if you respond do so in single spacing or I will not publish them. Thanks.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Oh I see , you wanted to know who you pay your government insurance to ! Like if you write out a check , is it made out to "Government Healthcare " or is it made out to "The United States Government " or perhaps the "United States Insurance Plan " . Maybe it's like tax and you make it out to "The Franchise Tax Board". ? Yeah , it's hard to know who you will pay your government insurance to. Martians maybe ?
darliegoddess 2 years ago
All you have to do is look at the MILLIONS they insurance companies are paying to create fake groups , advertise and you will know why this is such a threat. They know that after years of abusing their victims that the public option will be flocked to by the public, even those with private health care. Lets see shall we if years of service has created a loyal consumer base for them.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
(Aack! Well, here's 3...)
Problem is, the insurance companies are still profit-driven. Now they have a much larger customer base to gouge with excessive premiums to feed their ginormous overhead. After all, they need to maximize profits for their shareholders! Anything else would be irresponsible business.
Here's where, from my understanding, the public option steps in. It would provide nonprofit competition to keep private insurers from gouging their now captive customer base.
Wow, I rambled.
VerdantNight 2 years ago
Well , NO ! As I understand it , it is consumer choice. That means that you can stay with your present ETNA, CIGNA , Blue Cross whatever. Pay whatever sky high premiums & live in poverty. The public option is for the people who private insurance refuses to cover, who can't afford a $1000 a month or forgot to mention they had a minor yeast infection in 1968 and were dumped ( yes the do do that ). The nurses association outed these companies with sometimes a 40% denial rate ?
darliegoddess 2 years ago
No company is forced to do anything ! That's Glenn Beck lunacy , you can't force a private company to keep people on. That's ridiculous and way beyond the governments power. Irresponsible business ?! You mean like how they are denying totally legitimate claims to meet a quota, in essence murdering people. For SICKO Moore asked for healthcare horror stories and got over 25,000 in the first few days. The number one cause of bankruptcy is medical expenses. Responsible business ! Lol!
darliegoddess 2 years ago
There is nothing responsible about these companies. Our families have been maximizing their profits by dying. That is what the system is set up to do and the healthcare companies know it. The reason they are illegally forcing their employees to attend town halls and disrupt to save their jobs, Wellpoint and other have already been caught and are in deep trouble for this.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
After reading your responses, I don't think I came across right. I agree with you far more than you think. I know about the insurance companies' campaign of mis-information, causing ill-informed citizens to protest against reform that would help them. I also saw SiCKO and thought it was excellent. I am for single-payer. I was just curious about your understanding of the public option since my understanding was slightly (again slightly) different.
We need health care reform in the U.S. so badly.
VerdantNight 2 years ago
I have had tons of conservative friends see Sicko and while they still don't trust Moore they said they thought that Sicko was very well done. I'm for single payer but that wont happen. The drug and health insurance lobby are too well funded. The public option though would put a huge amount of power in the governments hands to drive down prices by creating REAL competition in both the insurance and healthcare industry. Is capitalism not about just that competition ?
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Cont... Wow, my rant made me spill over into a second comment! Sorry 'bout that. I'll get to my point.
My understanding of the public option is slightly different from what you said, but only slightly. From what I've gathered, proposed health care reform would make it illegal for insurance companies to drop people for getting sick, exclude them from coverage for preexisting conditions, etc. To spread the risk, there would be an "individual mandate" requiring everyone get coverage.
(damn limit!)
VerdantNight 2 years ago
I share the same sense of horrified amusement. On the one hand, it's funny: DEATH panels, Obama secretly born in Kenya, Medicare/VA recipients freaked out at the idea of government health care. Hilarious, right?
Except - that - it's - WORKING!!! WTF?! My grandma loves Glenn Beck, my mom has a Rush Limbaugh screensaver, and two of my friends (one very close) believe that it's been absolutely proven -PROVEN- that Obama was born in Africa and so isn't really qualified to be president.
Continued...
VerdantNight 2 years ago
I'm a conservative but I'm an American first. I don't believe in Animal Farms "Some are more equal than others ". As a democrat you need to call these liars liars and stop worrying about party lines. These thugs wouldn't try this if the Democrats came off as half way confident. It's a corporately organized smear and you had better all get off your behinds quick. You are losing the country.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
thats a contradiction in itsel sir. you cant be INTELLIGENT/LOGICAL and still be a republican.
leonheartmm 2 years ago
Now they are trying to get parents to pull kids out of school so when Obama visits he can't hypnotize them. Words ... just fail me.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
I'm not getting the "logical " thing on the republican side.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Intelligent , logical republicans ?
Death Panels, Obamas Birth Certificate, he's Muslim , his wife gave a terrorist high sign, he's recruiting children , he's a Nazi, a communist , he's racist and to top it all they got us into a failed war , w for 100 years , attacked the wrong country ,deregulated the banks and caused a world wide financial crisis , screwed millions of home owners , tortured prisoners , overpaid mercenaries paying our soldier 5x less ....
darliegoddess 2 years ago
in the UK folks are more educated, sorry but it is the truth.. the reason health works in the UK is the base salaries are a bit higher and there is much less people than in the US.. the UK is not as in deep shhh as the US is right now. Yes reform the health system but do not socialize it thats the problem
s412100000 2 years ago
We import the educated because our system is anti education, quick profit , low tech. You are a great example . I could list the mountain of reasons why reforming a "for profit" health care system is a ridiculous idea but you aren't capable of understanding. You simply repeat a mantra that you have been fed.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Maybe salaries seem higher in the UK, but so is our cost s412100000...
Don't compare things if you don't know how to compare!
Just as healthcare can work in the US, if the greed and total disregard for people is taken out and the system is replaced with a non-profit system that is focussed on the well being of people!
pe1biv 2 years ago
at this very moment social medecine will ruin the country even more..
this are the ones that want social medecine:
liberals that make no more than 30k a year and are usually part time so they dont get health benefits
for any body that makes more than 40K the taxes increase exponentialy nuts, these are the poeple who will pay for the whole enchilada, why would they want health care that way???
if you make 50K/year = 4166/month you only take home $3200/month
s412100000 2 years ago
Liberals make no more than 30 k a year ?! Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds ?! Honey, it's you think all those rednecks with tractor hats are making big money ? I doubt that anyone could understand a single thing you are trying to say it's so confused. Thank you for typing something here on YT.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
You madame are a communist. People like you destroyed America from 1960-1977. Please go back to Europe and eat cheese.
khazamondo 2 years ago
I am ? Please prove that one ! Were we destroyed between 1960-77 ? We had and lost Vietnam war , 50,000 Americans for nothing thanks to republican lies, we had our leaders assassinated by republican hate mongers, then Reaganomics began the destruction of the economy by using horses ass theories like trickle down ". A theory economists still laugh at today.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
And you khazamondo are obviously one of the people that have swallowed all the lies and propaganda as truth.
BTW, I'm from Europe..!
pe1biv 2 years ago
Agreed =)
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Well that explains it.
khazamondo 2 years ago
I was born in Canada, my family still lives there and Beck makes up the same lies about them James . What is fascinating is not that the British French and Canadian systems are better , but by how vastly superiority they are .
darliegoddess 2 years ago
We wouldn't even be having this discussion if not for Insurance Company operatives whipping up fear based propaganda. Disgraced former Columbia Health CEO Rick Scott's Conservatives for "Patient Rights" is helping lead the disinfo campaign with slick TV commercials and its own youtube channel: C4PatientsRights. Fortunately they can't be bothered to moderate their comments, so feel free to zip over there and savage its lying videos.
christineglamazon 2 years ago
Haha Glenn Beck is pretty fucking crazy.
grishno 2 years ago
I feel like I am watching a movie and this man is disintegrating in front of me. Making crazy schizophrenic word associations , insane doomsday predictions ....... his advertisers have all left and Rupert Murdock is holding him up in public view like so we can watch him melt down in full view. Even Coulter and Malkin are dissing him.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Eloquent as always, my gorgeous friend! Kudos!
minister6evil 2 years ago
Thanks ME , I think I sound totally whiney but, I guess everyone has their days !
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Whining is different.
minister6evil 2 years ago
You are too sweet.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
Health care is a human right. There are things that should not be profit driven, health care and prisons are two of them. The current system leaves 46 million Americans without any health care coverage. Eighteen thousand of those Americans will die this year because of that. I place each and everyone of those deaths at the feet of any politician that opposes a single payer health care system.
tetsubo57 2 years ago
Well I place it at the feet of the public who don't look into the republican lies they are fed. On top of the 50 million uninsured , 80 million are inadequately covered and don't find out till it completely bankrupts them.
darliegoddess 2 years ago
I guess I place greater responsibility on the liar than the ignorant listener. One is an active sort of evil the other is passive.
tetsubo57 2 years ago
Good point.
darliegoddess 2 years ago