2 My Experience on the Farm at Desteni

[yoseph89]

what...? what are they doing on the farm?  Where is the farm and did this visit require a donation?

[LeilaZamoraMoreno]

@yoseph89 - we do normal every day things like eating, sleeping, shitting, talking, working with animals, plants and use the internet to facilitate the Desteni I Process (DIP and promote an Equal Money System. No I did not donate any money to desteni to be able to come and visit. I asked if I could come, which was fine and then got myself an airplane ticket to South Africa

[pidza21]

so have you been microchipped yet?

[richardsbrianc]

Also Leila, you didn't mention much about the farm itself. What did you do there? What was your purpose of going there? What do you feel and what did you learn?

[LeilaZamoraMoreno]

the first time I went it was more of a holiday, I didn't do much work. A lot of hidden mind shit got pointed out to me and I faced a lot of fears. Most of my days would be consistent of writing and working on small projects.

[LeilaZamoraMoreno]

the 'second time' was more of the starting point of a 'long term' stay. Thus I work here with everyone else.

[richardsbrianc]

Seems to me there's more belief being stacked over "not believing" Many of the comments that I see seem very separatist. i.e. One person being"in the matrix" (which I'm assuming is a state of mind) while the majority of people commenting here are "not in the matrix". I'll find it amusing if I get "thumbs down" for my opinion, because every view needs to be respected as legitimate, and should be questioned. Through this we learn about life. Everyone needs to find their own truth.

[LeilaZamoraMoreno]

'beings in the matrix' is simply a reference point for beings that actively participate within their mind and live a survival based existence.

[BellaBargilly]

YEAH... COOL LEILA :)

[D7585]

Hey good for you its nice to find people who except you for who you are! The only problem is how do you search for your own answers in life if you haven't yet got out and learned lessons the way adults do? I personaly have picked up alot of commen sense and know that nobody can give you any shotcuts to real experience in life. OSHO says if some one tries to give you a belief system "run away" be a seek of your own truth,make mistakes thats life there is no magic bubble. Be free inside and live!

[resolveitall]

cool Leila! an environment of support does make process a relaxing experience. England has no supportive groups like Desteni. most of my "friends" think im an alien or something when i talk. they dont understand how or why i communicate about the world so much. the mind machine stands as them in totality, so only fear, judgements, beliefs, emotions and thoughts is all they know to exist as. always knowledge before life. mising what is here. equality

[LeilaZamoraMoreno]

what I found that works effective to pull through points with people in the 'Matrix' is using tools as for instance Osho Tarot Cards, or Dreams to 'open up' a 'door of communication'. I've also realised that using plain common sense works better then talking about a 'portal' etc.

[resolveitall]

exactly. i definitly find basic common sense the most effective for my "friends/family". stuff like everyone breathes so everyone should be treated the same. but as soon as i start talking about "god" or "portals", or "demons" or anything like that they look at me like im insane....obviously lol. thanks leila

[ViktorHansEmanuel]

awesome, leila, thanks

[deliciousonionsoup]

Cool video. I remember when I was your age that I so feared joining things not just because I feared joining things because of my own feelings of anxiety and fear but also because of what others thought and felt (including my parents and siblings). That can all be very stunting - the fear from self and the fear from others. Actually Desteni wasn't around then nor the Internet but that's another thing.

[gabrielietsanders]

cool, thanks for sharing

[rubenmoutinho]

(continuation) I wanted to just pretend that I could continue but I see that the mind is limiting me so much that if I accept it it will only become worse and worse for who I really am.

[rubenmoutinho]

THanks for sharing.. I've been there in the pf, the difference is that I didn't apply myself to school or process and I gave up myself, school.. Now another year at different course/ school and it seems that I've lost time, it's like the same experience repeating - the same 'I still have to do it', I know: a time loop. I experienced the mind so much that I really felt I could not do anything for myself.

[deliciousonionsoup]

Ruben, what gets me about school(s) and parents and peers and stuff is that all students are expected to achieve the same grade at the same age and that if they don't then the person feels pressure on them. The end result is that the programming means the person is often judged by others and the self as having been a failure. But really don't people just achieve different things at different ages? And if they don't achieve something at a certain age should they give up and not try again?