If there is one thing I know is that Mike Swick will never become walterweight champion. Swick is slow and has weak bunches. To be a Champion you gotta have quick hands and great wrestling. On the hand, GSP vs Dan Hardy will be very very very exciting fight to watch no doubt one of them will be submitted or knocked out for sure. I would give an edge to Dan hardy cause he is Hungry though I like GSP style.
stood up hardy wud kick gsp ass he will throw a punch hardy and will be on his back for 5 rounds you can just tell whats goin to happen BORINGGGGGG GSP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
watch boxing then if all you care for is striking..Let me guess, if GSP avoids striking with Hardy, he is a pussy right???But if hardy avoids goin to the ground with GSP, is he also considered a pussy?? ..you know avoiding your opponents strenghts is called being a smart fighter..i train on the ground, so i can appreciate what hes doing and know that it takes alot more skill to do what he does then to throw a hardy haymaker and hope to god you connect..so watching the same 1-2 combo isnt boring?
@TheShiningHero Koscheck is not in a position to get it, I don't think anyone of them is ready for gsp. If the winners fought each other and then the winner of that fight fought the winner of Jon Fitch vs. Mike Pierce, then possibly a shot would be earned.
its harder to move up weight for some than others. I fight at 170 and i would have trouble getting above 190 to train for a middle weight fight but i can cut to 155 if i need to pretty easy.
ye sure swick looks like a crackhead hardy will kick is ass then surprise the world and beat gsp who i think is boring takes every1 down and lies on um for 5 rounds
all gsp does is take it to the ground he wont stand and trade with hardy i dont like gsp i hate how he fights hes boring to watch hardy is more exciting and he mixes it up
gsp is by far the best welterweight out there at present and his resume so to speak is umatched but i do agree he's basically just an awesome wrestler now who just takes people down and pretty much just lays on them!Lol.
well if GSP just lays on them, then why do their faces looked mashed up pretty bad after(fitch, penn, alves)....and why does everyone say GSP lay n pray cuz of his last fight, a fight he went into with a right elbow injury( you dont see GSP use one right elbow that whole entire fight) and he suffered a groin injury in the 3rd and he still didnt quit and beat the #2 WW...i just cant believe the haters of GSP...i dont know if they are just haters or penn fans
well ok then he doesnt just lay on them he grounds and pounds but he doesnt strike on his feet much anymore is what im getting at.Anyway i dont hate gsp i think he's an incredible fighter and i enjoyed seeing him kick penns cocky ass!Basically the problem is that gsp's so dominant its almost pointless watching him as you know he's gonna kick the other guys ass!
it seems the only way to get respect as an mma fighter now is to just be a striker, nothing else...No one calls anderson silva out for not goin to the ground...which is the same as GSP being on the ground more than standing, its clearly a double standard...the whole idea is to play to your OPPONENTS WEAKNESSESS...not their strengths...which is why GSP is a smart fighter...anyone can go out and bang, but it takes alot more to dominate your opponent at every aspect of the game, including striking
I disagree. The strikers wouldn't last 10 seconds if they didn't also work on their ground game but obviously they will favor their strengths. MMA shouldn't be about having an all-round game - that's why a lot of fights these days are boring.
you see alot of strikers that hit the ground, they are fucked...sokodju, Rumball, ben rothwell, and so on....The strategy to MMA is about setting the pace you want, having the fight where you want it, and sticking to your strengths while exploiting your opponents weaknesses...If a fighter can dictate where the fight goes and how it goes, that takes alot more skill to do that then to throw a lucky haymaker and connect...And strikers get alot more respect than ground fighters
Well sure and I agree that strikers get more respect but not leaving yourself open is part of the game too. Since this is a spectator sport, the strikers will always get more support
Which is a shame, since its Mixed Martial Arts, a good fighter is a good fighter, no matter what there style is...Strikers will always get more respect becuase the average person watching the fight, is drunk or at a bar, and they wanna see knockouts, and if they dont see it or the fight goes to the ground, they boo which is bullshit...If all they wanna see is striking, then they should be watching K1or Boxing...Its alright to appreciate stand up fighting, just dont boo when its on the ground
this is a set up fight to hype swick when he gets to fight st. pierre, a pure marketing fight... but its nice cause we all know swick is gonna destroy this hardy guy...
GSP does have good standup, man. Its just more easy for him to tke people down and beat them up because not many people are good off their back. He just fights smart.
i dont really care either way, though i think its gonna be exciting, but i just thought it was funny how high swicks trainer had to hold the focus mitts
i got this idea from Steve O beer bong in his ass, and from a porn video called "milk enemas" i took a funnel to work last night an i put it in my ass and laid on my back, and my homie was in da cooler wit me an he poured liquid shake mix into my ass. den i squatted over da metal bucket we put da mix in, an i squirted the mix out of my ass an into da bukcet wif da rest of da mix an we poured it into da shake machine. LOL now people be drinkin shake dat came out of my asshole
swick is way to technical with his punchs he is like the Anderson Silva of the Welterweight division he just hasnt gotten his chance at a title yet but once hes the champ silva will have a new opponent for best pound for pound
really? because one of the Bj penn gsp fights, gsp had so much blood on his face the ref had to wipe him down, when penn had nothing, and almost the whole fight was on the ground. Just because one fight is one on the ground doesnt mean that person is better
there has never been a championship fight where the fighter just said "i quit" until bj penn said that as a result of gsp's superior wrestling and devastating ground and pound.
Reff did not call it. BJ's brother threw in the towel between round 4 and five. He did that because BJ was EXHAUSTED and would not even reply to him when he asked how BJ felt.
After that BJ made up some bullshit story about vaseline on the back of GSPs left elbow...
Oh I saw the footage, the cornerman rubs GSPs elbows from behind him, its a meditation ritual they do. THAT corner man still had vaselin on his fingers, BUT ONLY ON ONE HAND. Thats how u apply vaseline, u hold the box in one hand, and the apply with the other. So GSP only got Vaseline on ONE of his shoulders.
You don't know if he had it on both hands. Even if he had a square inch of vaseline on him thats againist the rules. Its not like someone can be like "Oh I only took steroids one time, and it didnt do anything" Cheating is cheating, nor matter what portion.
That example does not apply at all. U take steroids u KNOW ur breaking the rules, its not like ur eating food and some pills fell into it by accident. Which is what happened here.
Was it illegal? yes. Did it in ANY WAY UNDER THE SUN affect the outcome of the fight? Hell no.
GSP won that fight, no question about it...but there's obvious footage showing GSP's cornerman placing vaseline on areas of the body that shouldn't have any grease...only supposed to be used on the face to prevent scratching/bleeding from the leather on the gloves...the cornerman has said he didn't do anything intentional, so that's that.
The only point in their fight where this would have been an issue is when BJ tries to put his rubberguard on GSP, if his heel would slip on GSPs shoulder when placing it, but that never happend.
BJ Penn's corner actually stopped the fight because Penn couldn't continue with the following round...you can see the footage of one of his cornerman motion to the officials that BJ was done...
Really I should watch more fights? I think you should, as I said before, BJ Penn never said "I quit" he did not say anything, his cornerman stopped it.
a cornerman would never stop a fight without a fighters approval. they probably had some sign so that the public couldnt see the fighter actually saying it. he repeatedly asked bj if he wanted to continue and bj didnt seem to respond. so the lack of response was probably the prearranged signal to call the fight.
its like how matt hughes didnt tap to gsp during their second fight. instead he said "tap tap tap" to have the fight stopped so the cameras didnt record him tapping.
No i have seen a lot of time cornermen stop the fight and fighter hets pissed off. And i like how GSP was Tapping by strikes from Matt Serra. BJ PENN > GSP
you are missing the point. a cornerman doesnt stop the fight unless the fighter wants it stopped. bj penn wanted that fight stopped at the end of the 4th round.
the other point you are missing is that matt hughes verbally tapped so that nobody would SEE him tap because he is vain.
and the other point you are missing is that gsp isnt vain and tapped to serra the regular way instead of doing it verbally like the vain matt hughes.
well i didnt see BJ try and stop his corner from stopping the fight.... so guess what, thats the same as quitting....BJ just couldnt say it himself cuz of all the trash talking before the fight....GSP smashed Penn and proved hes the better fighter but BJ fans just cant accept it...do and say anything they can to keep BJ as a god in there eyes
@JBomber22 Yeah you are right Bj did not try to stop. I just can not accept it because it wasn't just fair fight. GSP and his cornerman broke the rule.
like saying Muay thai and boxing are the same thier totally different started the same but turned in to 2 totally different things BJJ is not wrestling i am a wrestler and i used to do Bjj belive me its different
Dont lie to validate your point, BJJ and wrestling are both grappling with different techniques, I never said their the same but their not totally different. If you were a wrestler and knew BJJ you would know this.
its funny you will never belive me even though i just told you the truth you just said bjj is wrestling yes they both use grappling but the techniques make them totally different as well as the rules BJJ IS NOT WRESTLING you dont even do bjj or wrestling nor did you have to go through the transition so what would you know
First off, Your lies aren't convincing when you don't make sense when you type. Do you know me personally to say I've never wrestled? Actually I have 4 years of wrestling and i'm learning Hap Ki Do, which Ive been doing about 2 years. Im not saying there the same. But when you said their totally different thats how I knew you were lying. Because If you really wrestle and practice BJJ you wouldnt say that.
you said bjj is wrestling how is that not saying they are the same the only similarity is the grappling part everything else is different name other similarities and your lies aren't convincing either especially when i am the one telling the truth and you dont know me either
Yeah GSP doesn't have great standup at all. That's why all of his fights suck, if he can't stand with you he takes you down and bores the hell out of you.
GSP got a excellent stand up... very quick boxing and specially his jabs. And very good kicks too...
Sure it would be more exciting if he accept to eat some shots just to keep the fight up but like the big majority of the fighters, and im sure that will be your case if you wer one, he doesnt like to be hit.
When he feel his opponent is starting to get comfortable on his feet, he take him down.
He's just that good. He do what he want, and when.
Not at all, if you actually watched his fights, hes so un-orthodox, his guard is open all the time. All the hits he gets on BJ are on the ground, and BJ is in a lower weight class so you can't blame him. If you carefully watch his boxing he just throws, Bj actually times, dodges and lands hits.
HA! have you ever watched any of his fights they are awesome his standup is pretty good and if he does take them to the ground he doesntt lay on them and wait for the clock to run out like most fighters.
Ha, have you watched his fights? He lands 21% of his punches, average MMA fighters land in the low 30's. Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva being exceptions.
And your name is sweet fairy.Obviously your just a flaming faget, who has nothing better to do then go on youtube and look at something he doesnt like.
yeah by saying exactly what they always do, thats how you prove your point you stupid cunt. You just made yourself sound like everyone of those guys, stop being such a fuckin idiot..
I think Swick will take this one, he is a well rounded fighter, and he usually fights inteligently. I don't think Vera is going to win against Randy, atleast I hope he doesn't. If Randy looses again, at LHW...I think he's going to retire. Anyone who can fight MMA at Randy's age deserves your respect!
The people that are rooting for Dan Hardy are either stupid and ignorant or UK nut-huggers.
coolioisafoolio 2 years ago
@coolioisafoolio and why is that?
peterbf91 1 year ago
If there is one thing I know is that Mike Swick will never become walterweight champion. Swick is slow and has weak bunches. To be a Champion you gotta have quick hands and great wrestling. On the hand, GSP vs Dan Hardy will be very very very exciting fight to watch no doubt one of them will be submitted or knocked out for sure. I would give an edge to Dan hardy cause he is Hungry though I like GSP style.
Gureey2009 2 years ago
Old "one trick swick" had no answer for the power of an Englishman.
warriorprince1010 2 years ago
one trick swick?
isnt that what dan hardy is too?, just a striker
the only difference is he has crooked ass teeth
NightManiacs 2 years ago
stood up hardy wud kick gsp ass he will throw a punch hardy and will be on his back for 5 rounds you can just tell whats goin to happen BORINGGGGGG GSP ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
wiganmadlad 2 years ago
watch boxing then if all you care for is striking..Let me guess, if GSP avoids striking with Hardy, he is a pussy right???But if hardy avoids goin to the ground with GSP, is he also considered a pussy?? ..you know avoiding your opponents strenghts is called being a smart fighter..i train on the ground, so i can appreciate what hes doing and know that it takes alot more skill to do what he does then to throw a hardy haymaker and hope to god you connect..so watching the same 1-2 combo isnt boring?
JBomber22 2 years ago
i dont call lieing on some1 for 5 rounds fighting i want entertainment and u dont get that watching gsp if you dont agree then fuck you ;)
wiganmadlad 2 years ago
Couture>Vera
Swick>Hardy
Kang>Bisping!!!!!!!
HEROIC96 2 years ago
Right on...those are the fighters I think and hope win as well.
undisputedgreatest 2 years ago
The winner of swick vs hardy & Johnson vs Koscheck...should fight for a title shot .
TheShiningHero 2 years ago
@TheShiningHero Koscheck is not in a position to get it, I don't think anyone of them is ready for gsp. If the winners fought each other and then the winner of that fight fought the winner of Jon Fitch vs. Mike Pierce, then possibly a shot would be earned.
Plankeeee 2 years ago
stop being a nerd
TheShiningHero 2 years ago
MACHIDa MACHIDa MACHIDa
CLOVERCITYY15 2 years ago
And that is relevant because ?
MrNiceHk 2 years ago
why wont gsp move up a weight if hes that good cause he knows he would get owned in the middleweight devision
wiganmadlad 2 years ago
its harder to move up weight for some than others. I fight at 170 and i would have trouble getting above 190 to train for a middle weight fight but i can cut to 155 if i need to pretty easy.
will01819 2 years ago
you american are just biasd cunts against us english we will kick your ass like we always do swick is shit hardy is good simple!
wiganmadlad 2 years ago
im english and i think bisping and hardy are gunna loose tbh
mitten2787 2 years ago
because you have no faith in your country
TheShiningHero 2 years ago
you know you are not helping the whole biased situation by saying the same thing back
Keysi4life 2 years ago
Swick is going to kick Hardy's ass.
onesamquanch 2 years ago
ye sure swick looks like a crackhead hardy will kick is ass then surprise the world and beat gsp who i think is boring takes every1 down and lies on um for 5 rounds
wiganmadlad 2 years ago
Hardy is about to get smashed. Even if he made it past Swick (7% chance,) he will get destroyed by GSP (100%.)
undisputedgreatest 2 years ago
all gsp does is take it to the ground he wont stand and trade with hardy i dont like gsp i hate how he fights hes boring to watch hardy is more exciting and he mixes it up
wiganmadlad 2 years ago
gsp is by far the best welterweight out there at present and his resume so to speak is umatched but i do agree he's basically just an awesome wrestler now who just takes people down and pretty much just lays on them!Lol.
BoxingBadBoy77 2 years ago
well if GSP just lays on them, then why do their faces looked mashed up pretty bad after(fitch, penn, alves)....and why does everyone say GSP lay n pray cuz of his last fight, a fight he went into with a right elbow injury( you dont see GSP use one right elbow that whole entire fight) and he suffered a groin injury in the 3rd and he still didnt quit and beat the #2 WW...i just cant believe the haters of GSP...i dont know if they are just haters or penn fans
JBomber22 2 years ago
well ok then he doesnt just lay on them he grounds and pounds but he doesnt strike on his feet much anymore is what im getting at.Anyway i dont hate gsp i think he's an incredible fighter and i enjoyed seeing him kick penns cocky ass!Basically the problem is that gsp's so dominant its almost pointless watching him as you know he's gonna kick the other guys ass!
BoxingBadBoy77 2 years ago
it seems the only way to get respect as an mma fighter now is to just be a striker, nothing else...No one calls anderson silva out for not goin to the ground...which is the same as GSP being on the ground more than standing, its clearly a double standard...the whole idea is to play to your OPPONENTS WEAKNESSESS...not their strengths...which is why GSP is a smart fighter...anyone can go out and bang, but it takes alot more to dominate your opponent at every aspect of the game, including striking
JBomber22 2 years ago
I disagree. The strikers wouldn't last 10 seconds if they didn't also work on their ground game but obviously they will favor their strengths. MMA shouldn't be about having an all-round game - that's why a lot of fights these days are boring.
HoosierMF 2 years ago
you see alot of strikers that hit the ground, they are fucked...sokodju, Rumball, ben rothwell, and so on....The strategy to MMA is about setting the pace you want, having the fight where you want it, and sticking to your strengths while exploiting your opponents weaknesses...If a fighter can dictate where the fight goes and how it goes, that takes alot more skill to do that then to throw a lucky haymaker and connect...And strikers get alot more respect than ground fighters
JBomber22 2 years ago
Well sure and I agree that strikers get more respect but not leaving yourself open is part of the game too. Since this is a spectator sport, the strikers will always get more support
HoosierMF 2 years ago
Which is a shame, since its Mixed Martial Arts, a good fighter is a good fighter, no matter what there style is...Strikers will always get more respect becuase the average person watching the fight, is drunk or at a bar, and they wanna see knockouts, and if they dont see it or the fight goes to the ground, they boo which is bullshit...If all they wanna see is striking, then they should be watching K1or Boxing...Its alright to appreciate stand up fighting, just dont boo when its on the ground
JBomber22 2 years ago
i agree gsp's fights are pretty boring...proof from his last fight haha
mastermation 2 years ago
they don't call him quick for nothing. Mike has some fast hands
iTravelHD 2 years ago
If Hardy can take him past the 1st round then I think Hardy will take it. He just has to weather the early storm that Swick will bring.
socalled47 2 years ago
will be a exciteing fight i dont know who will win
mattyy101 2 years ago
Swick is one of those really talented guys that has been flying under the radar for bit. Smash Hardy and get your Championship match. Quick Swick!
JREYNOSO 2 years ago
Swick is the only fight im gonna watch.
Go SWICK !!!
NokiaN95D8G 2 years ago
so your not entirely a MMA fan? Why would you want to watch just one of your fav fighters when you can watch an entire event of unpredictable fights?
MaladaptiveCatalyst 2 years ago
I hope Swick beats the goofy mohawk off Hardys head.
SpaceWars2025 2 years ago
This will probably be fight of the night.
BigGee614 2 years ago 2
this is a set up fight to hype swick when he gets to fight st. pierre, a pure marketing fight... but its nice cause we all know swick is gonna destroy this hardy guy...
ALICEandBRENDA 2 years ago
Then GSP will annilate swick!
BoxingBadBoy77 2 years ago
haha, agreed!
ALICEandBRENDA 2 years ago
swick is going to murder hardy!!
but there is absolutely no legit contender to have a chance at beating GSP in WW.
youlance29 2 years ago 2
id like to see hardy win but dout he will
boombya123 2 years ago
ehhh I don't think neither of these guys are much of a threat to GSP =\
but good luck to swick!
ShadySouljahv2 2 years ago 2
We all want to see gsp vs Silva
but anderson is just WAY too big for gsp,
it would be a very un even fight
livininSouthPark 2 years ago 2
Anthony Johnson vs GSP
Or I'm sure Anthony Johnson vs Anderson Silva would be pretty entertaining too.
Shvingter88 2 years ago
gsp and anderson r both awsome...im a gsp fan for sure.....that would be a killer fight
junkpusha 2 years ago
GOOOOOOOOOOO HARDYYYY
Nick3Nrm 2 years ago
This is gonna be fantastic.........
Mojo1982 2 years ago
hey Swick why did you even bother to drain your ear you wil have Randy ears eventually come on bro its mma
missionkid 2 years ago
i gotta go with swick KO on hardy
PRIDEFC17 2 years ago
Swick via Swickatine
ChopBunny69 2 years ago
fuck the intros ive seen that shit a million fuckin times jesus fuck
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
this is gonna be a war! looking forward to it :D
sXeHardcoreKid 2 years ago
YESSS Mike Quick Swick son!!
afrokidryder 2 years ago
GSP does have good standup, man. Its just more easy for him to tke people down and beat them up because not many people are good off their back. He just fights smart.
hooktothebody 2 years ago
Hardy is overrated, Swick is gonna smash that faggot.
BooRikkaaa101 2 years ago
i dont really care either way, though i think its gonna be exciting, but i just thought it was funny how high swicks trainer had to hold the focus mitts
lucubration808 2 years ago
i love seeing Ben "Ugly Gangly Dicksuck" Saunders get destroyed!
archinuk417 2 years ago
IM Britsih Born and Bren and Im rooting for Swick all the way ! Knock his mouthy head off swick !
ukogmickey 2 years ago
i got this idea from Steve O beer bong in his ass, and from a porn video called "milk enemas" i took a funnel to work last night an i put it in my ass and laid on my back, and my homie was in da cooler wit me an he poured liquid shake mix into my ass. den i squatted over da metal bucket we put da mix in, an i squirted the mix out of my ass an into da bukcet wif da rest of da mix an we poured it into da shake machine. LOL now people be drinkin shake dat came out of my asshole
WhiteChocolut 2 years ago
anderson silvas fighting vitor belfort next year..
jcgator15 2 years ago
swick is way to technical with his punchs he is like the Anderson Silva of the Welterweight division he just hasnt gotten his chance at a title yet but once hes the champ silva will have a new opponent for best pound for pound
chickodie 2 years ago
i would say that hardy is slightly more technical than swick even before hardy trained with freddie roach.
but i think swick has faster hands.
hard to say who will win, but in my opinion this will be the best welterweight fight of 2009.
signboyy 2 years ago
i hope you fight better than you spell "quikc"
signboyy 2 years ago
both of these guys are nowhere near GSP's level so it doesn't matter who wins
DeathByDrumstik 2 years ago 3
actually these guys are better strikers than gsp.
so if they can keep it standing up with gsp they could win.
signboyy 2 years ago
@signboyy yeeah but gsp's of the best wrestlers in mma, i just see it being like the thiago alves fight
psypholicious 2 years ago
i agree i think gsp probably has the best wrestling skills in the welterweight division.
if swick or hardy cant stuff gsp's takedowns they will absolutely get hammered on the ground by gsp.
signboyy 2 years ago
bj penn? gsp best wrestling....hell no
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
bj penn is in the lightweight division not the welterweight division.
but obviously you didnt see penn vs gsp 2
if you had, you would agree with me that gsp has the best wrestling skills in the welterweight division.
signboyy 2 years ago
by far....but he....but i think if he didnt put vaseline all over his body, bj would of won
himrasmus101 2 years ago
obviously you didnt know bj penn is in welterweight too and used to be welterweight champ
fighters arent only in one division, they can cut/gain weight
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
bj penn is the lighweight champion.
when he fought welterweight champ gsp it was at catchweight.
signboyy 2 years ago
and no i wouldnt agree, I would put bj penn or matt hughes wrestling above gsp anyday.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
gsp took down penn repeatedly, got side control repeatedly and ground and pounded him so much penn had to quit at the end of the 4th round.
gsp dominated hughes on the ground and won with an armbar
maybe you should watch some fights.
signboyy 2 years ago
wowaweewa
wary niiiiice.
signboyy 2 years ago
umm GSP badly beat both those guys on the ground!! He had much much better wrestling!! please watch there last fights( Matts last two).
gram1615 2 years ago
really? because one of the Bj penn gsp fights, gsp had so much blood on his face the ref had to wipe him down, when penn had nothing, and almost the whole fight was on the ground. Just because one fight is one on the ground doesnt mean that person is better
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
there has never been a championship fight where the fighter just said "i quit" until bj penn said that as a result of gsp's superior wrestling and devastating ground and pound.
signboyy 2 years ago 2
really? will you remind me of what fight that was? because that wasnt the case
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
gsp vs penn 2
it occured in january of 2009 and i am sure you can watch it at mmacore
signboyy 2 years ago
how do you get a tko mixed up with a i quit.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
the ref called stoppage and penn thought gsp was using vaseline
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
Reff did not call it. BJ's brother threw in the towel between round 4 and five. He did that because BJ was EXHAUSTED and would not even reply to him when he asked how BJ felt.
After that BJ made up some bullshit story about vaseline on the back of GSPs left elbow...
Ex0dus111 2 years ago
and you must have been in the ring at the time to proove he didnt have vaseline
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
Oh I saw the footage, the cornerman rubs GSPs elbows from behind him, its a meditation ritual they do. THAT corner man still had vaselin on his fingers, BUT ONLY ON ONE HAND. Thats how u apply vaseline, u hold the box in one hand, and the apply with the other. So GSP only got Vaseline on ONE of his shoulders.
And THAT won him the fight? HELL NO.
Ex0dus111 2 years ago
You don't know if he had it on both hands. Even if he had a square inch of vaseline on him thats againist the rules. Its not like someone can be like "Oh I only took steroids one time, and it didnt do anything" Cheating is cheating, nor matter what portion.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
That example does not apply at all. U take steroids u KNOW ur breaking the rules, its not like ur eating food and some pills fell into it by accident. Which is what happened here.
Was it illegal? yes. Did it in ANY WAY UNDER THE SUN affect the outcome of the fight? Hell no.
Ex0dus111 2 years ago
GSP won that fight, no question about it...but there's obvious footage showing GSP's cornerman placing vaseline on areas of the body that shouldn't have any grease...only supposed to be used on the face to prevent scratching/bleeding from the leather on the gloves...the cornerman has said he didn't do anything intentional, so that's that.
MaladaptiveCatalyst 2 years ago
The only point in their fight where this would have been an issue is when BJ tries to put his rubberguard on GSP, if his heel would slip on GSPs shoulder when placing it, but that never happend.
Ex0dus111 2 years ago
BJ Penn's corner actually stopped the fight because Penn couldn't continue with the following round...you can see the footage of one of his cornerman motion to the officials that BJ was done...
MaladaptiveCatalyst 2 years ago
Really I should watch more fights? I think you should, as I said before, BJ Penn never said "I quit" he did not say anything, his cornerman stopped it.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
a cornerman would never stop a fight without a fighters approval. they probably had some sign so that the public couldnt see the fighter actually saying it. he repeatedly asked bj if he wanted to continue and bj didnt seem to respond. so the lack of response was probably the prearranged signal to call the fight.
its like how matt hughes didnt tap to gsp during their second fight. instead he said "tap tap tap" to have the fight stopped so the cameras didnt record him tapping.
signboyy 2 years ago
No i have seen a lot of time cornermen stop the fight and fighter hets pissed off. And i like how GSP was Tapping by strikes from Matt Serra. BJ PENN > GSP
100isthebest 2 years ago
gsp is honest, he isnt like matt hughes who says it verbally to avoid having his taps recorded on film.
bj himself admitted he wanted the fight stopped.
signboyy 2 years ago
@signboyy Verbally or Physically Tapping is Tapping.
100isthebest 2 years ago
you are missing the point. a cornerman doesnt stop the fight unless the fighter wants it stopped. bj penn wanted that fight stopped at the end of the 4th round.
the other point you are missing is that matt hughes verbally tapped so that nobody would SEE him tap because he is vain.
and the other point you are missing is that gsp isnt vain and tapped to serra the regular way instead of doing it verbally like the vain matt hughes.
signboyy 2 years ago
well i didnt see BJ try and stop his corner from stopping the fight.... so guess what, thats the same as quitting....BJ just couldnt say it himself cuz of all the trash talking before the fight....GSP smashed Penn and proved hes the better fighter but BJ fans just cant accept it...do and say anything they can to keep BJ as a god in there eyes
JBomber22 2 years ago
@JBomber22 Yeah you are right Bj did not try to stop. I just can not accept it because it wasn't just fair fight. GSP and his cornerman broke the rule.
100isthebest 2 years ago
its funny how you put Bj and Hughs wrestling above GSP's and yet Bj uses bjj and hughs has lost to GSP
Keysi4life 2 years ago
just because someone beats someone doesnt mean theyre worse than them at that style of fighting
(example)so if chuck liddel beats lyoto machida, does that mean chuck liddel has better bjj than lyoto?
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
and bjj is wrestling
just developed in a different country with different techniques
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
like saying Muay thai and boxing are the same thier totally different started the same but turned in to 2 totally different things BJJ is not wrestling i am a wrestler and i used to do Bjj belive me its different
Keysi4life 2 years ago
Dont lie to validate your point, BJJ and wrestling are both grappling with different techniques, I never said their the same but their not totally different. If you were a wrestler and knew BJJ you would know this.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
its funny you will never belive me even though i just told you the truth you just said bjj is wrestling yes they both use grappling but the techniques make them totally different as well as the rules BJJ IS NOT WRESTLING you dont even do bjj or wrestling nor did you have to go through the transition so what would you know
Keysi4life 2 years ago
First off, Your lies aren't convincing when you don't make sense when you type. Do you know me personally to say I've never wrestled? Actually I have 4 years of wrestling and i'm learning Hap Ki Do, which Ive been doing about 2 years. Im not saying there the same. But when you said their totally different thats how I knew you were lying. Because If you really wrestle and practice BJJ you wouldnt say that.
Plus no one says "I do BJJ" unless their lying.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
you said bjj is wrestling how is that not saying they are the same the only similarity is the grappling part everything else is different name other similarities and your lies aren't convincing either especially when i am the one telling the truth and you dont know me either
Keysi4life 2 years ago
Yeah GSP doesn't have great standup at all. That's why all of his fights suck, if he can't stand with you he takes you down and bores the hell out of you.
BooRikkaaa101 2 years ago
GSP got a excellent stand up... very quick boxing and specially his jabs. And very good kicks too...
Sure it would be more exciting if he accept to eat some shots just to keep the fight up but like the big majority of the fighters, and im sure that will be your case if you wer one, he doesnt like to be hit.
When he feel his opponent is starting to get comfortable on his feet, he take him down.
He's just that good. He do what he want, and when.
Jo3mD 2 years ago
Not at all, if you actually watched his fights, hes so un-orthodox, his guard is open all the time. All the hits he gets on BJ are on the ground, and BJ is in a lower weight class so you can't blame him. If you carefully watch his boxing he just throws, Bj actually times, dodges and lands hits.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
HA! have you ever watched any of his fights they are awesome his standup is pretty good and if he does take them to the ground he doesntt lay on them and wait for the clock to run out like most fighters.
leee121 2 years ago
Ha, have you watched his fights? He lands 21% of his punches, average MMA fighters land in the low 30's. Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva being exceptions.
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
Suck it, dick face.
zedrein18 2 years ago
No...
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
I'll break my foot off in your motherfuckin' ass.
zedrein18 2 years ago
He out boxed Alves, the alleged "best striker in the WW division", get your head out of your ass.
kiwimangum 2 years ago
LOL GSP did not out box Alves, he took him down and avoided standing with him as much as possible. Hahaha get your head straight
BooRikkaaa101 2 years ago
haha, no.
ShadySouljahv2 2 years ago
gsp has great standup, i just think hardy and swick have standup which is a little bit better.
if hardy and swick can stuff gsp's takedowns(which is no easy task) i think they could win a standup war.
signboyy 2 years ago
There's no way in hell those 2 could stuff GSP's takedowns. GSP ploughs through you like a freight train.
red2lucas 2 years ago 3
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we'll find out
signboyy 2 years ago
a win is a win and hes a dominant champion, boring or not
roldie2 2 years ago
Exactly
Poffpoffpass 2 years ago
@signboy "actually these guys are better strikers than gsp" ( lol,that's funny.)
GSP holds the UFC record for most significant strikes at 628.
81giantkiller 2 years ago 4
"most significant strikes at 628"?
what are you babbling about?
signboyy 2 years ago
You said swick and hardy are better strikers than GSP ,I say get bent.
81giantkiller 2 years ago 4
we will find out soon enough.
no i wont bend over, i dont swing that way.
signboyy 2 years ago
@DeathByDrumstik dont come to conclusions, remember gsp vs serra 1, no one gave serra a chance but he KTFO of gsp
psypholicious 2 years ago
i got hardy winning this
mrclutch87 2 years ago
hardy ftw! :)
LookyPeter 2 years ago
oh yeah 1:37 serious action
mirosotoz 2 years ago
go swick, go america!
Steadno 2 years ago
....... Yes, the winner will fight GSP...
But GSP would destroy either of these guys.
a7green 2 years ago 6
if hardy had the skills to match his confidence he might actually of had a chance of winning
xSHouTxOuTx 2 years ago
you're moms fatter than you and thats saying something based on you're picture
robocop124 2 years ago
Your picture. Not you're.
/grammarnazi
Jfroese2007 2 years ago
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32KOAST 2 years ago
your a total cunt.. MMA fighters are highly skilled
a parking lot fight is normally between drunk thugs who barely know how to throw a punch
Yurg24 2 years ago
WHERE IS FEDOR
vls174 2 years ago
And your name is sweet fairy.Obviously your just a flaming faget, who has nothing better to do then go on youtube and look at something he doesnt like.
Sad, im sorry man..
sorealphear95 2 years ago
Swick won by ref stop at end of 2 rund
MrBozowporzo 2 years ago
Swick is a real cool dude.
Is he the next runner up against GSP if he wins this fight?!?!?!? Anyone know?
TimeWarp66 2 years ago
i heard whoever wins this fight gets a shot at GSP
hardy will beat swick.. then get fucked up by GSP
Yurg24 2 years ago
winner of this gets a title shot at gsp.
but dana also said the winner of the bisping/hendo fight would get a title shot against anderson silva too.
so take what dana says with a grain of salt.
signboyy 2 years ago
hahaha your a dumb ignorant bitch
roycesboy 2 years ago 2
Interesting comment coming from a guy named "MrSweetFairy". Clearly you know nothing about mma so just shut up.
mullen32 2 years ago
do u think hes gonna win ??
9352852 2 years ago
ur both wrong veras italian and filipino
RSB0171717 2 years ago
lol you guys argue waay too much before the fight.. just wait and see what happens and hopefully your fighter wins
BanglishBoy 2 years ago
yeah by saying exactly what they always do, thats how you prove your point you stupid cunt. You just made yourself sound like everyone of those guys, stop being such a fuckin idiot..
s4123833 2 years ago
I think Swick will take this one, he is a well rounded fighter, and he usually fights inteligently. I don't think Vera is going to win against Randy, atleast I hope he doesn't. If Randy looses again, at LHW...I think he's going to retire. Anyone who can fight MMA at Randy's age deserves your respect!
kennyraymon 2 years ago
yeah that will be 3 in a row for randy
there seems to be an unofficial 3 strikes in a row and your out rule in the ufc.
signboyy 2 years ago
@ kenny
Randy signed a 6 fight contract with the UFC,after the NOGUEIRA fight.
81giantkiller 2 years ago
You talking like a those people! you supposed to be disin! IRONIC OR WHAT!
wl6309 2 years ago
bad jokes are bad.
Trigunflame 2 years ago
HARDY HARDY HARDY!!!
crimen 2 years ago
Go mike, fuck that cocky brit up!!!
vinvincible8 2 years ago
swick win tko
jollywolly55 2 years ago
shut up u dirty cunt
jollywolly55 2 years ago
swicks got this one in the bag
aidsbutt 2 years ago
swicks a good fighter but hardys gona win this fight 2nd round tko
LeeUnited4eva 2 years ago
man i think swick is just gonna swarm hardy like a yellow jacket after you kick its nest.
signboyy 2 years ago
hardy is the man.hardy via tko round 2
MrBoxingUK2 2 years ago
I like this guy, its the type of guy that goes far...
svendpro 2 years ago
Love Swick but I think Hardy takes this one.
TheMadRaver 2 years ago
I love Mike Swick and I believe that he will beat Hardy hands down.
JaSamfan1982 2 years ago 4
lol i said swick twice....im stoned yea...
eLLriDe420 2 years ago
Swick is my favorite welterweight. GO MIKIE
RichieTheKing69 2 years ago 2
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america is gunna dominate this card. riddle. swick.shannon.aaron.matt.swick.dennis. vera.
eLLriDe420 2 years ago
dennis kang is canadian not american.
but yeah i think it will be:
swick
vera
kang
signboyy 2 years ago
couldn't agree more
Bring2012x 2 years ago
Vera is hawaiian
but yeah i think it will be:
swick
vera
kang
rikardin 2 years ago
@rikardin
Vera is Filipino-American
Born in Norfolk, Virginia
MLucas89 2 years ago 3
Oh, my bad.
I got him mixed up with Kendall Grove lol.
Sry about that :P
rikardin 2 years ago
@rikardin
lol
MLucas89 2 years ago
i said dennis kang is canadian. i didnt say anything about vera.
vera is actually part philipino and part italian. and hawaii is part of the united states.
but yeah i agree with your picks.
signboyy 2 years ago