This isn't that big of a shocker. Realize that they had to make all those drawings by HAND, so it makes sense that they used the same shapes and models in stead of redrawing. It efficient and saves time. Come on guys, it's not like they made exactly the same stories. If this ruins your childhood, you're quit easily hurt and pretty naieve.
What is everyone upset about? So what? It's not like they are using the exact same characters or anything. There's most likely just a preanimated skeleton like layer, then it's animated over with different characters. So if you're bitching about them not doing work or being lazy, then that doesn't make sense because they still have to animate it.
Seriously, you guys try animating a movie and meeting a deadline, it ain`t easy so you`d be cutting corners too...
Robin Hood (1973) appears to be the main recycler of templates. I wouldn't say they've been 'doing it since Snow White'. Seems like the RH production team was either being lazy or paying homage to past productions by copying dances.
Its efficient cartooning, in depression, era and the great great anscestor of motion capturing! Such ingenuitey should b commended, and bravo to the observan, intuitive viewer who noted " something seems ...familiar"
i dont understand why people feel 'cheated' to see that Disney occasionally uses the same actions/moves for their characters. i mean, does anyone know how hard it is to make a feature length movie out of drawings? its something crazy like 20 drawings per SECOND. give them a break. this is actually a very smart technique. and whats up with comparing beauty and the beast and sleeping beauty? theres not very many different ways to show people dancing in circles..what else was disney supposed to do?
have you ever thought about HOW they made cartoons back then? THEY DREW IT. how would it be surprising they use some of the same templates to save time? and why think about it as a bad thing? why dont you start complaining at apple for using the same style of iphone for like 3 generations? geez. get over it
Well, given that those were the times where each and every frame was drawn by hand, I forgive them. I would cut corners too, if I had a deadline and little time to spare.
one template also not included in this here montage is the pack of wolves licking Mowgli's face in Jungle Book 1 and the pet dogs licking young Arthur's face in Sword in the Stone.
These films are still the ones which captivated you as a child, regardless of whether they used a common animating trick or not. I've loved Disney for many years now and I actually enjoy finding these little tidbits in the films. It's like a nod from the animators and is akin to finding a continuity error or tiny reference in a live action movie. Enjoy these films for what they are. A little slice of nostalgia and something which continues to make millions of kids (big and little!) very happy :)
you are really over reacting, you dont think that famous artists, painters ect. do this all the time? really its not a big deal at all... we really have much bigger problems in the world than disney re-using a scene!
you are really over reacting, you dont think that famous artists, painters ect. do this all the time? really its not a big deal at all... we really have much bigger problems in the world than disney re-using a scene!
really this isnt a big deal, u are sooo over reacting, you dont think that painters and famous artists from history did the samething?? get over it its a damn movie....
So this is the Reason Why they haven't made a an Cartoon in a long while. Hell I bet you even The Princess and the frog used some the the template before :D
While I admit that it is somewhat depressing when placed side by side, I feel compelled to point out that drawing cartoons from scratch is probably very difficult and very time consuming, using the same templates is actually a fairly smart move, business wise.
And besides, should this lack of extra effort really diminish the magic that we all felt through Disney movies? Do a few character movements define what the whole movie was about? Id like to think not.
No big deal, everyone has the right to use their own work to make something different. Thats why its called a template. Lots of people has been using there older works for newer things. Why spead a lot of money to make new sences when there are some in one's past videos that you could use and save money. And each of those movies still has there own different stories.
I also had a similar experience of "Huh? I never noticed that before!" when someone first told me that the Alphabet Song and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star were the same tune. And now this!! MY WORLD HAS FALLEN APART! Next someone will tell me that the Bible is also based on older templates and stories of previous, older religions too ;-)
HEY!!! hahah i love this movie, sorry for that night on blogtv, im not racist, my brother thought it'd be a good idea to tell some jokes.sorry for pissing you off :(
Its not Disney, its HOLLYWOOD!!! Think about it. What are MOST HOLLYWOOD films? What do they usually boil down to? Save the pussy/dick/kids/world. That's about it. Oh, and riding off into the sunset. Sound familiar? It should. Its only the formula for about 90% of the movies you've ever seen in your entire life. The point is to be entertained. Just remember that hollywood has been doing this so long that it is hard for them to see doing it any other way.
Yes, though also another reason why Disney may have done this was because his whole entire life while having Disney Productions he had been in and out of debt, which using the same templates would've saved money. Also it triggers a memory to other films, and shows references to other films. Pixar even does it, only they don't use the same templates, they show toys and posters from other films they made.
Point taken. He wasnt very good with his money. That much we know is a fact as it wasnt in his biographies. Although towards the end there he didnt seem to concern with cash at the rate he planned to build theme parks. That's it!! Maybe the theme parks were his MAIN goal all along and he just used the cartoons as a sort of personal printing press (if you will) to come up with the cash fast! Hmmmm........ makes you wonder.
I'm unsure. For economics we had to do a project on a company and I chose Disney. How it all happened was pretty much on accident. It wasn't really planned. He bought a small studio, and struggled to make films and have them do well his whole lifetime. While on a plane ride he thought it would be good for his workers have a place to take his family on vacation. There the idea of a amusement park was born.
Yeah, but do you see a lot of Fantasia, Dumbo, or Pinocchio in here? Not too much 101 Dalmatians or Alice in Wonderland or Sleeping Beauty either. Mostly this just shows how some later films (mostly The Jungle Book and Robin Hood) followed animation techniques developed for Snow White, and how Jungle Book and Robin share similar elements. Take those three films away and you haven't got much.
i think that's because it speeds up production in a lot of ways! You have to realize that they produce these things on a limited time frame. Being a cartoonist myself i can see the usefulness in such a strategy! Though i think that over using them starts becoming a little pathetic!
So not surprised. Disney is moneygrubbing fatcat corporation shyster - as proven over and over. That they would copy their own animationcycles in order to save some money in the studios just fits. *shrugs*
I've noticed the elephant before, mainly because they use the exact same sound. but they've been doing this since snow white?! ... WAHHHHHHHHH, why didn't we notice sooner... =(
@universalJok3r well it's not since snow white, snow white was problably the first one to use that scene, is robin hood that uses the scene from snow white
This isn't that big of a shocker. Realize that they had to make all those drawings by HAND, so it makes sense that they used the same shapes and models in stead of redrawing. It efficient and saves time. Come on guys, it's not like they made exactly the same stories. If this ruins your childhood, you're quit easily hurt and pretty naieve.
Fleurtjahh 1 month ago
Made you cry? All the real problems in the world, and this makes you cry? Get a life.
elshpen 1 month ago
What is everyone upset about? So what? It's not like they are using the exact same characters or anything. There's most likely just a preanimated skeleton like layer, then it's animated over with different characters. So if you're bitching about them not doing work or being lazy, then that doesn't make sense because they still have to animate it.
Seriously, you guys try animating a movie and meeting a deadline, it ain`t easy so you`d be cutting corners too...
lpfann 2 months ago
Robin Hood (1973) appears to be the main recycler of templates. I wouldn't say they've been 'doing it since Snow White'. Seems like the RH production team was either being lazy or paying homage to past productions by copying dances.
89savant 2 months ago
This made you cry? Wimp much.
KrumpingKatie 2 months ago
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It doesn't matter if they used the same templates over... every disney movie is different in its own way.. and i love them all :)
dorindorind 2 months ago
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dorindorind 2 months ago
Keep in mind templates are used widely by all types of animators. It saves wasting time and money on animating the same action/character/gesture
EDROXMISOX 2 months ago 4
@EDROXMISOX I'm sure a company as large and wealthy as Walt Disney could afford to.
CartoonWarStudios 2 months ago
@CartoonWarStudios They would still want to cut corners anywhere they could. As is, these movies take years to make anyways.
emmyloo815 2 months ago
Big what evah.
EazyDuzItAgain 3 months ago
Its efficient cartooning, in depression, era and the great great anscestor of motion capturing! Such ingenuitey should b commended, and bravo to the observan, intuitive viewer who noted " something seems ...familiar"
Bockatadi 3 months ago
your missing one! in: part of your world and: for a moment
toph2828 3 months ago
Disney magic lies in something else than dance move templates, so no reason to be shocked.
JazAuroosa 5 months ago
i dont understand why people feel 'cheated' to see that Disney occasionally uses the same actions/moves for their characters. i mean, does anyone know how hard it is to make a feature length movie out of drawings? its something crazy like 20 drawings per SECOND. give them a break. this is actually a very smart technique. and whats up with comparing beauty and the beast and sleeping beauty? theres not very many different ways to show people dancing in circles..what else was disney supposed to do?
animationfan24601 6 months ago 4
have you ever thought about HOW they made cartoons back then? THEY DREW IT. how would it be surprising they use some of the same templates to save time? and why think about it as a bad thing? why dont you start complaining at apple for using the same style of iphone for like 3 generations? geez. get over it
iPrincessxx1 9 months ago
Well, given that those were the times where each and every frame was drawn by hand, I forgive them. I would cut corners too, if I had a deadline and little time to spare.
JWDalsager 9 months ago
Robin Hood was a low budget film. It's not a big deal. It's expensive to do these. I wish they wouldn't stop making the animated films....
AudioVideoDisco06 9 months ago
As you can see in the video they do it on the lower budget films. Mostly Robin Hood.
mysim20 9 months ago
I feel cheated ....SMH </3
skamilf 9 months ago
Childhood is officially ruined.
Mirailecious 9 months ago
CESIQUE STOLE THIS FLAG HIS VIDEO!
eminem8lol8lol 11 months ago
one template also not included in this here montage is the pack of wolves licking Mowgli's face in Jungle Book 1 and the pet dogs licking young Arthur's face in Sword in the Stone.
VoidRevenant 1 year ago
These films are still the ones which captivated you as a child, regardless of whether they used a common animating trick or not. I've loved Disney for many years now and I actually enjoy finding these little tidbits in the films. It's like a nod from the animators and is akin to finding a continuity error or tiny reference in a live action movie. Enjoy these films for what they are. A little slice of nostalgia and something which continues to make millions of kids (big and little!) very happy :)
allicatviii 1 year ago
Wow, never noticed this, and I'been watching them since birth.
If this video was originally yours than props for spotting the similarities !
Nice bg music too.
Ovidius89 1 year ago
It was probably rotoscoped and they used the same live actor footage for multiple animations through the years as a reference?
ak47oooo 1 year ago
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you are really over reacting, you dont think that famous artists, painters ect. do this all the time? really its not a big deal at all... we really have much bigger problems in the world than disney re-using a scene!
Septemberskies09 1 year ago
you are really over reacting, you dont think that famous artists, painters ect. do this all the time? really its not a big deal at all... we really have much bigger problems in the world than disney re-using a scene!
Septemberskies09 1 year ago
really this isnt a big deal, u are sooo over reacting, you dont think that painters and famous artists from history did the samething?? get over it its a damn movie....
Septemberskies09 1 year ago
animation is very difficult...template or not
EnsignSmith 1 year ago 4
This is so interesting!
sukolovesyou 1 year ago
You missed one. :P
Aristocats - Cat jumping onto milk truck
101 Dalmations - Pongo jumping onto moving van
Anyway, I have known about this for quite some time now. Those cheap copiers! :P
RGamer2009 1 year ago
I don't hear anyone complaining about a lot of other cartoons not made by Disney that also use templates...
sixsicksixes 1 year ago
At least they're somewhat subtle about reusing animation. You can't say the same thing with anime.
Mysterious0Bob 1 year ago
So this is the Reason Why they haven't made a an Cartoon in a long while. Hell I bet you even The Princess and the frog used some the the template before :D
GodKill123 1 year ago
While I admit that it is somewhat depressing when placed side by side, I feel compelled to point out that drawing cartoons from scratch is probably very difficult and very time consuming, using the same templates is actually a fairly smart move, business wise.
And besides, should this lack of extra effort really diminish the magic that we all felt through Disney movies? Do a few character movements define what the whole movie was about? Id like to think not.
WolfShadowsGhost 1 year ago
No big deal, everyone has the right to use their own work to make something different. Thats why its called a template. Lots of people has been using there older works for newer things. Why spead a lot of money to make new sences when there are some in one's past videos that you could use and save money. And each of those movies still has there own different stories.
dishamonpow 1 year ago
wow.... this, I never knew o.o; .. guess I was too ignorant and enjoyed the movies too much.
Mast3rh3nx 1 year ago
Damn, that was beautifully edited together but it was also kinda sad to see it.
norsef 1 year ago 19
Walt Disney is probably melting in his grave right now.
something915 1 year ago
uhh. sharp eyes... awesome cutting, thanks
Vulvulcru 2 years ago
I don't understand why people get so mad at seeing this.
I mean come on, they didn't have the technology we have nowadays, and their movies are awesome.
emlovesmcfly 2 years ago
what's the big deal? when they were making this videos there was no computers like there is today. the movies are still awesome <3
Agoraphobica 2 years ago
this is one of the many reasons why disney is pro
GRAHAM137 2 years ago
You know it could just be a coincidence...
Sorakeyblader 2 years ago
@Sorakeyblader Conincidence? Come On. I knew Disney like to plagiarize, but to rip off their own stuff? That's just Cobra Commander diabolical.
gorisch 1 year ago
I also had a similar experience of "Huh? I never noticed that before!" when someone first told me that the Alphabet Song and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star were the same tune. And now this!! MY WORLD HAS FALLEN APART! Next someone will tell me that the Bible is also based on older templates and stories of previous, older religions too ;-)
bettySwollox 2 years ago
Ahaha, I see what you did there.
knox11 1 year ago
@knox11
Shhh, don't tell anyone, it's a secret OK? Hihi...
bettySwollox 1 year ago
Hmm Never noticed this, but most of those were older movies so it was probably cheaper on production to use the same animation.
DarkMoonSylph 2 years ago
Wow I've never noticed this! Really surprised me.
MaximumProductionz 2 years ago
disney is relaly shit
dagangsta101 2 years ago
HEY!!! hahah i love this movie, sorry for that night on blogtv, im not racist, my brother thought it'd be a good idea to tell some jokes.sorry for pissing you off :(
Bridog08 2 years ago
Correction:
"it WAS in his biographies."
UnHermosoDominicano 2 years ago
Its not Disney, its HOLLYWOOD!!! Think about it. What are MOST HOLLYWOOD films? What do they usually boil down to? Save the pussy/dick/kids/world. That's about it. Oh, and riding off into the sunset. Sound familiar? It should. Its only the formula for about 90% of the movies you've ever seen in your entire life. The point is to be entertained. Just remember that hollywood has been doing this so long that it is hard for them to see doing it any other way.
UnHermosoDominicano 2 years ago
Yes, though also another reason why Disney may have done this was because his whole entire life while having Disney Productions he had been in and out of debt, which using the same templates would've saved money. Also it triggers a memory to other films, and shows references to other films. Pixar even does it, only they don't use the same templates, they show toys and posters from other films they made.
QueenOfR0ck 2 years ago
Point taken. He wasnt very good with his money. That much we know is a fact as it wasnt in his biographies. Although towards the end there he didnt seem to concern with cash at the rate he planned to build theme parks. That's it!! Maybe the theme parks were his MAIN goal all along and he just used the cartoons as a sort of personal printing press (if you will) to come up with the cash fast! Hmmmm........ makes you wonder.
UnHermosoDominicano 2 years ago
I'm unsure. For economics we had to do a project on a company and I chose Disney. How it all happened was pretty much on accident. It wasn't really planned. He bought a small studio, and struggled to make films and have them do well his whole lifetime. While on a plane ride he thought it would be good for his workers have a place to take his family on vacation. There the idea of a amusement park was born.
QueenOfR0ck 2 years ago
Thank God he had the good sense to hire some bomb ass accountants! I'm tellin you he was as bad as I am with money. He just had more of it.
UnHermosoDominicano 2 years ago
yea u kind of coppied this video from someone else....... ive seen it, dude make your own
ahriane100 2 years ago
Yeah, but do you see a lot of Fantasia, Dumbo, or Pinocchio in here? Not too much 101 Dalmatians or Alice in Wonderland or Sleeping Beauty either. Mostly this just shows how some later films (mostly The Jungle Book and Robin Hood) followed animation techniques developed for Snow White, and how Jungle Book and Robin share similar elements. Take those three films away and you haven't got much.
margotdarby 2 years ago
Similar Elements!!!! They are Rip Offs
ShadowsDML 2 years ago
i think that's because it speeds up production in a lot of ways! You have to realize that they produce these things on a limited time frame. Being a cartoonist myself i can see the usefulness in such a strategy! Though i think that over using them starts becoming a little pathetic!
lonSinceInsane 2 years ago
Haha, funny stuff.
I honestly don't mind. I love disney and always will, it's not like they copied the entire films.
PepsiFlavoredPpcorn 2 years ago
You uncovered their conspiracy..now they will be out to get you..haha
tredeep 2 years ago 24
So not surprised. Disney is moneygrubbing fatcat corporation shyster - as proven over and over. That they would copy their own animationcycles in order to save some money in the studios just fits. *shrugs*
Not an uncommon practise in the industry anyway.
InsideIsVoid 2 years ago
WOW! Omg, How long did they think they could pull this off?
I mean we all loved them and we never realised before..
Wow, Disney still rules =3
MetalHeadedfrog 2 years ago 2
Wow...I can't believe I didn't notice that before
1smileygirl1 2 years ago
i dont mind..
they stay beautiful movies...
HarrySackthatsme 2 years ago
i was wondering why whenever i watched disney movies some things seemed oddly familiar, but not the same thing i was watching.
those are so very much the same it's not even funny. the same moves, the same expressions, the same timing.
i seriously can't believe that i hadn't realized that.
ShaZoobie 2 years ago
I've noticed the elephant before, mainly because they use the exact same sound. but they've been doing this since snow white?! ... WAHHHHHHHHH, why didn't we notice sooner... =(
universalJok3r 2 years ago 5
i dunno!! I watched these movies a hundred times!!
Honeybrown0219 2 years ago
@universalJok3r
"Since" Snow White? You're an idiot. This video shows they started doing it in the 1960s.
It doesn't change the fact that all of these movies were pain-stakingly animated by hand. I don't see what the big deal is.
LauraOrganaSolo 1 year ago
@LauraOrganaSolo
One movie was painstakingly animated by hand. The repeats does not need reanimation - just redrawing. Thats the entire point of reusing it.
bombmk 1 year ago
@universalJok3r well it's not since snow white, snow white was problably the first one to use that scene, is robin hood that uses the scene from snow white
pwEclipse 1 year ago
Maybe they used the same choriagrapher!?
jacob21476 2 years ago 6
lol..."Sprit Fingers!!!"
Honeybrown0219 2 years ago 4
holy shit that is crazy lol!
babyblues2008 2 years ago 2
Wasn't it!...i swear i was Shocked beyond measure.
Honeybrown0219 2 years ago
how sad. i never noticed that at all!
musicislife695 2 years ago
Yes...i seriously was in tears...i felt some kinda way about this. Not upset but it was a shock.
Honeybrown0219 2 years ago