yo whats up bro? yo can you please tell me if i can duplicate arrows cause i have been really in need of arrows and dont want to go buy them especially when im out on a quest or just roaming around? if so can u please tell me how cause i have tried this on my other items and it works but yeah this is kinda ridiculous the one thing i actually need to duplicate and it doesnt work. and can you or someone tell me if elven bows and elven equipment are better than the regular equipment?
Came back to Oblivion too fiddle around a bit and found out using this method that if you have stolen items you can use this method to make mass clean copies of them. This was my work around for the 360's "Frostcraig spire patch" that kept the mystic emporium locked. Simply pickpocket a copy of the key and make clean copies of it to have an all access pass to the shop when ever you like. :D Thumbs up to pin for people to read.
@TheB11Z hmm.. "one xbox live update and it doesnt work anymore".. and was the moms basement thing suppose to be an insult.. i was 15 of course im not going to be living on my own. i dont know why people get so defensive damn. all i said was it was working for everyone else so calm down i didnt insult you or anything.
Don't even need to double tap it. I just select a scroll that I have shit loads of, then drop w.e I wanna dupe and it does it. None of this shitty clicking 200 times!
easier one if you clear the cache, have a arrow ready to shoot press b unequip arrows hold a go to wat u wanna dupe press and hold x with a then press b and you shoot the arrow but how ever many arrows you have is how much of the thing you duped comes out patched but if you clear cache of xbox360 you can do it without xbox live
you can download ps3 games for absolutely free. Just Google "ps3 zappy download" - it's the first link. My friend and I downloaded games it and it's and they are neat! There are ton's of ps3 games on the "ps3 zappy download" website!!
@MistaKwayzee I'm sorry, I was just a bit prejudice against listening to high pitched voices, not his fault, just after playing a significant amount of call of duty and listening to mickey mouse voices trash talk me, I just hate the little kid voices now. It's cool though, I understand for him, that's cool, I don't care about it anymore.
Hey man, I thought I said I was sorry. If it wasn't for here, then I'm sorry. The reason why I had gotten so mad was because I had gotten out of a game of Call of Duty with these little 9 year olds talking trash. I don't have a problem with all 9 year olds, as some friends on Xbox Live are my friends as well. I don't have a problem with it anymore man.
I miss the arrow glitch. it was alot cooler to swing a weapon or shoot a bow and have items fly everywhere...
I had Lucien Lachance's fort full of items once, the lag was horrible but I made to expert in Alchemy and learned a valuble lesson; the glitch is awesome but use it wisely =}
scrolls are everywhere in the game. But there's a place in the main city, market distict. And there's a spell shop that has scrolls lying everywhere, just steal as many as you want .
nice so... if i duplicate stuff in the middle of some forest, and go away and do other stuff, quests and stuff for like 5 days, will the stuff still be there? or will it be gone?
dude nice vid but i just wanna make sure. ok you pres on a scroll that you have 2 or more of. say i press it twice. then i go to another item and drop it. i will have two of those items on the ground. so if i use like 30 scrolls i will get 30 of what i want?
if u have like 30 Scrolls u don't have to press it 30 time 2 times well do the trick much more simple but beware 10 much of 100 item may cause lag and even freeze and don't make to many lock pick just by makeing 30 can cause massive lag
dude you can duplicate almost anything but i haven't found something that doesn't duplicate and you don't have to unpatch you xbox i have the last patch and it still working but if you unpatch the xbox the game might freeze
Hey..... I play oblivion but for some reason i do exactly what they tell me to do for the duplicate or unlimited gold glitch's but they don't work do i have to unpatch my PS3 or something? Or do i have to use a curtain type of scroll? Pls tell me :C
does this work for weps/armor? like say i tap my a button a scroll plenty of times and drop my helm of marsh do i get the same number i tap?! if so (woot money)
if anyone needs help with this glitch or anyother oblivion glitches for xbox 360 just send me a message and ill try to help u My Gamer tag Is MONKEYTHROWPOO
FINALLY! one that finally works! it's about time. I'm glad it takes a kid to explain this method way better than any of the other videos on here. good job kid. all other videos should be deleted from you tube
You said in the info, that you need the patch for this to work, well I bought the ESIV GOTY(XBox 360)and it worked just fine, thanx for putting this vid up.:)
n it works on stuff like potions, arrows, rings, gold, lockpicks, and other small stuff like that. you can see in that room all the stuff i duplicated.
it does not delete the downloaded content, i tried it on mine. i unpatched it, repatched it, (i pressed a when the thing said that i had to update) and i still had mehrunes razor, frostcrag spire, and battlehorn castle. but i lost all progress i made on those things. i had to go do mehrunes razor again and battlehorn castle etc.
ok i am from england so will anything be different also i am getting the game tomorrow so when i buy it and i try it if anything goes wrong i will ask you first if that's ok :D thanks man it really means alot to me
hey could you help me i am worried i may not be able to do the glitch people have been saying that if you have xbox live it don't work :( i would really appreciate some help
Fail. it doesn't work.
Sh00pDaP00P 5 months ago
thanks! this is the best video i've seen about duplicating items! very good job!
PunisherPlaythroughs 6 months ago
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u only need 2 tap A twice 4 any amount.
tylerwilliams12timmy 1 year ago
u only need 2 tap A twice 4 any amount. u bumbass
tylerwilliams12timmy 1 year ago
@tylerwilliams12timmy ya thanks cas 40 other people didnt say that already.. nothing i can do about it now.
bluemonkeys2 1 year ago
yo whats up bro? yo can you please tell me if i can duplicate arrows cause i have been really in need of arrows and dont want to go buy them especially when im out on a quest or just roaming around? if so can u please tell me how cause i have tried this on my other items and it works but yeah this is kinda ridiculous the one thing i actually need to duplicate and it doesnt work. and can you or someone tell me if elven bows and elven equipment are better than the regular equipment?
shahogner87 1 year ago
dude u only need to to press it twice
LtTOM56 1 year ago
Came back to Oblivion too fiddle around a bit and found out using this method that if you have stolen items you can use this method to make mass clean copies of them. This was my work around for the 360's "Frostcraig spire patch" that kept the mystic emporium locked. Simply pickpocket a copy of the key and make clean copies of it to have an all access pass to the shop when ever you like. :D Thumbs up to pin for people to read.
ChrisTustin 1 year ago
kinda dumb putting this on youtube.. one xbox live update and it doesnt work anymore
TheB11Z 1 year ago
@TheB11Z seems like it works for everyone else
bluemonkeys2 1 year ago
@bluemonkeys2
did i said it didn't?
go back to your moms basement
TheB11Z 1 year ago
@TheB11Z hmm.. "one xbox live update and it doesnt work anymore".. and was the moms basement thing suppose to be an insult.. i was 15 of course im not going to be living on my own. i dont know why people get so defensive damn. all i said was it was working for everyone else so calm down i didnt insult you or anything.
bluemonkeys2 1 year ago 4
@bluemonkeys2
yea ok
but still, i saw many glitches fixed by xboxlive updates
i'm just saying because i dont want this glitch to be fixed
TheB11Z 1 year ago
@TheB11Z yes it does i can do it and ive got everything and i can stil do it
LtTOM56 1 year ago
@TheB11Z it seems u dont know how to press LB+RB+X on the hard drive screen
gwasDpk 1 year ago
Don't even need to double tap it. I just select a scroll that I have shit loads of, then drop w.e I wanna dupe and it does it. None of this shitty clicking 200 times!
zimd 1 year ago
You're my hero!
H0z3rz 1 year ago
easier one if you clear the cache, have a arrow ready to shoot press b unequip arrows hold a go to wat u wanna dupe press and hold x with a then press b and you shoot the arrow but how ever many arrows you have is how much of the thing you duped comes out patched but if you clear cache of xbox360 you can do it without xbox live
TheNoobNNerd 1 year ago
How do u dulicate any thing else eg.. Weapons
leedavginger 1 year ago
Excellent!! Been looking for this cheat.. Question tho , got game of the year addition xbox360 will it still work ?
leedavginger 1 year ago
does this only work with scrolls?
pwnzersyou123 1 year ago
omg i was getting so mad until i saw this video thanks man
ammma2 1 year ago
tried this with a weapon...
worked the first time but after that all my weapons just sunk into the floor... lol
insanity0c 1 year ago
every time i duplictae the fuckin xbox gets stuck :'( :(
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janVannaman 2 years ago
Amen TrueLegend =P
you only have to tap it twice.
and even if you did have to tap A as many times as the number of scrolls you have, you're still off by like 20 bro.
lmfao.
gdawgin008 2 years ago
watch my video! I have the same one i just provide more info. Thank you
Truelegend1 2 years ago
Why is it that so many 9 year olds make these videos? That mickey mouse voice gets annoying and I can never tell if it's a girl or a boy
3xtend 2 years ago
thanks dude. im not 15 anymore btw
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
@bluemonkeys2 dude you dont gotta press a that many times lol! only twice
Truelegend1 2 years ago 2
would the information hes presenting be any different if he was 20? 30? no it wouldnt. who cares what the persons voice sounds like
MistaKwayzee 2 years ago 2
@MistaKwayzee I'm sorry, I was just a bit prejudice against listening to high pitched voices, not his fault, just after playing a significant amount of call of duty and listening to mickey mouse voices trash talk me, I just hate the little kid voices now. It's cool though, I understand for him, that's cool, I don't care about it anymore.
3xtend 2 years ago
@MistaKwayzee It matters if your getting a boner to their voice and don't want to be called gay! :D .... no homo.
MF0TY 1 year ago
@MF0TY hehe
MistaKwayzee 1 year ago
then fuck off to the gym
03Dmartin 1 year ago
Hey man, I thought I said I was sorry. If it wasn't for here, then I'm sorry. The reason why I had gotten so mad was because I had gotten out of a game of Call of Duty with these little 9 year olds talking trash. I don't have a problem with all 9 year olds, as some friends on Xbox Live are my friends as well. I don't have a problem with it anymore man.
3xtend 1 year ago
do you loose the scrolls though
123beaverme 2 years ago
I saw in another vid that you can duplicate pretty much anything, you just hold 'A' and (whilst still holding 'A'), drop the item.
SpudProduction 2 years ago
Can you only do the duplication glitch on scrolls and arrows, what about weapons or clothing?
SpudProduction 2 years ago
Can you buy scrolls?
littl3shad19 2 years ago
lol this should be patched?
you dont have to tap dumb dumb.
but thanks for the help.
daftkyle 2 years ago
guys this can also work with arrows.
TLeidheiser 2 years ago
I miss the arrow glitch. it was alot cooler to swing a weapon or shoot a bow and have items fly everywhere...
I had Lucien Lachance's fort full of items once, the lag was horrible but I made to expert in Alchemy and learned a valuble lesson; the glitch is awesome but use it wisely =}
TheNinjaInShadow 2 years ago
how do you do it with the bow and arrows i dont have any of the patches from live
primusTool88 2 years ago
arrow trik was fixed, only scroll trick works now, and they prob fix that anytime now
chrisross66999 2 years ago
how do i get scrolls?
deniedtie 2 years ago
scrolls are everywhere in the game. But there's a place in the main city, market distict. And there's a spell shop that has scrolls lying everywhere, just steal as many as you want .
Fiercedeity02 2 years ago
you can buy them, but arrows are much easier to do it with than scrolls.
TLeidheiser 2 years ago
Best glitch everr im so rich now
DA22389 2 years ago
u only hav to tap it once but great vid
IronBeast100 2 years ago
OMFG it worked!
Ali18094 2 years ago
1. Equip arrows. The number of arrows = amount of duplicates appear.
2. Swing your weapon.
3. Before your swing ends, un-equip the arrows.
4. Drop a non-stacked item.
5. Profit.
A lot easier than spamming the a button.
Monso 2 years ago
yeah it doesent work cuz their is one scroll and it say (10)
xinumacretes 2 years ago
omfg this shit doesnt work anymore!!
xinumacretes 2 years ago
lolololololol i tried this with 214 scrolls on shuvles and it made my game crash raght when i click dropped lolololol
musicNgameboy1 2 years ago
thats not the easy way to do it you
1 move over a scrole you have multiple of
2 hit A twice (and hold)
3 move to item you want to make X more of (# of scroles)
4 then drop the item while still holding A then pick it up
zshirmp 2 years ago
i made 471 sijle stones!!! LOL
zshirmp 2 years ago
Can you duplicate gold?
thebinky1995 2 years ago
u dont have 2 keep pressin X man
dertyturban14 2 years ago
Yes this is a duplication glitch that works After the patch...
This glitch dosnt only duplicate scrolls it can duplicate about 70%-80% of items in the game give it a try.
the only thing i cant think of that it works for is Steel or quest items . Enjoy
mshadow1994 2 years ago
does it only work for scrolls cos i wana duplicated sigil stones for a full stelth suit
1evildave 2 years ago
does this still work after all the updates/addons? thanks
XClone08 2 years ago
Didn't work for me.
SkillingFTW 2 years ago
see the description of the video because maybe ur not so brilliant and didnt unpatch ur xbox
pancho123007 2 years ago
it never does
TheDoakes12 2 years ago
y cant i duplicate weapons and armor?
xIxAmxKh2xI 2 years ago
man i hope it will work with weapons, i havent played my oblivion yet i just got it again, i hade fallout 3
MasterCheif972 2 years ago
can you duplicate lockpicks?
MasterCheif972 2 years ago
just get the skull key :P
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MasterCheif972 2 years ago
will it work if i have the GOTY edition and dont have the add-ons on the memory unit
Gingividus 2 years ago
i did the orgiganal way (the arrows glitch) ang i got a shit load of grand soul gems and sold em all and i got all the houses now i am bored
pspfan68 2 years ago
You don't have to tap it a lot.
Just tap it once and it will work.
VictoryfortheHorde 2 years ago
where doi buy and sell stuff!?!?
chillidawgc9111 2 years ago
nice so... if i duplicate stuff in the middle of some forest, and go away and do other stuff, quests and stuff for like 5 days, will the stuff still be there? or will it be gone?
Worzx 2 years ago
It will stay there.
chaojimbo 2 years ago
why couldnt you just press and hold A on the scroll and drop the item?
Motomarsu 2 years ago
cool video the other way you can do it is instead of scrolls you could use arrows either way will work though
MultiAwesome101 2 years ago
the arrows only work withOUT the patches
MrZombierambo 2 years ago
THANK YOU! Best glitch ever! I bought a house in every city and made 100k coins in 15 minutes!
xiKUDx 2 years ago
yes u will but u gotta hold the button and then go overand drop the item u wanna duplicate and then press but it doesnt work on varla stones
SkateTwoMaster 2 years ago
dude nice vid but i just wanna make sure. ok you pres on a scroll that you have 2 or more of. say i press it twice. then i go to another item and drop it. i will have two of those items on the ground. so if i use like 30 scrolls i will get 30 of what i want?
popman638isthebest 2 years ago
right rightt. and thankss
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
So if i have Xbox LIVE and i get every update that has come out can i do this?
D3troitTig3rs 2 years ago
yep :)
xiKUDx 2 years ago
you only have to click twice no matter how many scrolls... and it still works today
mentalmyles0 2 years ago
does it still work with the patch that you make your own avatar something like that?
retard999999 2 years ago
yaa it seems like it from what everyone has been sayin. but i dont know i havnt played it like since i made this video
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
Hey thanks alot man. this glitch still works lol
MaxD391 2 years ago
wait can you do that with other objects then scrolls
DeeBagHunter2000 2 years ago
yaaa like arrows and potions and lockpicks and stuff. not big things though like swords or armor or anything like that
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
I'm gonna try duplicating a human heart I found
Sylux654 2 years ago
just startin oblivion again. i 4gt how to to this and random hero is right when i did u nli need to do tap a twice.
but gud video never the less
Nazif1348 2 years ago
Awesome Video dude, i always wanted to know how to dupe items.
Cobbe354 2 years ago
if u have like 30 Scrolls u don't have to press it 30 time 2 times well do the trick much more simple but beware 10 much of 100 item may cause lag and even freeze and don't make to many lock pick just by makeing 30 can cause massive lag
xXRandomHeroXx99 2 years ago
mine worked and i still have the patch but the arrow duplication won't work
Xsaintdisgustus 2 years ago
i filled a room with 5000 potions
UKbestassassin 2 years ago
thanks for the info...havent tried it yet but...by unpatching my xbox...what does that do to it??? and can i multiply weapons?
FrenzyProductionz 2 years ago
dude you can duplicate almost anything but i haven't found something that doesn't duplicate and you don't have to unpatch you xbox i have the last patch and it still working but if you unpatch the xbox the game might freeze
NapsterX666X 2 years ago
how do you duplicate arrows?
killweb2 2 years ago
you click the scrolls like normal and then drop the arrows
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
well i just got oblivion so your saying that we have to buy a new xbox to get the duplicate glitch to work get a life
jordondavey161 2 years ago
i dont know if you did the update it doesnt work either
i havnt played this in a long time so i dont know
calm down
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
dont even work
jordondavey161 2 years ago
if you patched it it doesnt work
read description
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
YES IT FUCKING WORKS
vlad19951995 2 years ago 3
@vlad19951995 I know it's the first one that I've found that works for me lol
MizLuvOranges 1 year ago
buy duplicating
bvosman 2 years ago
how u get so much money...?
redsky594 2 years ago
did the glitch and i sold the stuff i duplicated i thinkk
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
Just thought i would tell you you onlyhave to press A 2 times
Aszunna5000 2 years ago
ya i figured that out thanks though
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
thanks for the video aswell very helpful i bought everything i needed in frostcrag spire and all the stuff at battlehorn castle :D
36541258 2 years ago
you can duplicate the Fin Gleam aswell using this method theyre worth 1000 each fast money
36541258 2 years ago
lol thx for this video man ^^
shadowsong47 2 years ago
dose this still work or is it pach?
cardenas0101 2 years ago
Hey..... I play oblivion but for some reason i do exactly what they tell me to do for the duplicate or unlimited gold glitch's but they don't work do i have to unpatch my PS3 or something? Or do i have to use a curtain type of scroll? Pls tell me :C
GougeX 2 years ago
oh well i did it for the xbox 360.
if you have it for ps3 they might have patched it but there is no certain scroll or anything.
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
does this work for weps/armor? like say i tap my a button a scroll plenty of times and drop my helm of marsh do i get the same number i tap?! if so (woot money)
BloodStoneRaiders 2 years ago
Duh
shokotsu 2 years ago
U only need to press the button once when duplicating u do know this
shokotsu 2 years ago
nice dude
zwunduke 2 years ago
if anyone needs help with this glitch or anyother oblivion glitches for xbox 360 just send me a message and ill try to help u My Gamer tag Is MONKEYTHROWPOO
MONKEYTHROWPOOXBL 2 years ago
niccxce tanks man
Mackaho22 2 years ago
FINALLY! one that finally works! it's about time. I'm glad it takes a kid to explain this method way better than any of the other videos on here. good job kid. all other videos should be deleted from you tube
ztyson86 2 years ago
lol thnkssss :D
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
you ruck man
imlovingit13 2 years ago
lol thanks man
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
so u have to have a program to do this?
hdsodksjds 2 years ago
nope
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
you don't have to tap it for every number of things do you?I have six scrolls of one kind and i tap it twice and then drop a sword and i have six.
ramoooooon 3 years ago
hey i used to do this for ages, but now i cant do it with weapons or armor, any help?
ResPeCt002 3 years ago
u could use the arrow dupe glich way easier.
tomkriek 3 years ago
You said in the info, that you need the patch for this to work, well I bought the ESIV GOTY(XBox 360)and it worked just fine, thanx for putting this vid up.:)
W4RLoL87 3 years ago
no problemm
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
A tip to save time, you only need to hit a once.
It works on all items, you can dupe anything exept for stolen goods, that means swords, sheilds, armor, diamonds, potions, arrows, ect.
chris5656 3 years ago
but u are a geek .....
spoofy131313 3 years ago
how do u change the difficult
lakota122 3 years ago
does this only work for scrolls, or can it be for weapons and ingreidants?
waheedD12 3 years ago
uhm it works for arrows and smaller stuff, not like swords or anything and ya i think it works for ingrediants
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
u jest hav 2 hit A twice
milkrlz 3 years ago
ya i figured that out :/
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
can u do it with madness ore or amber in the shivering isles?
ToxiKmAn6 3 years ago
sorry i havnt tried it :/
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
I know you can't do it on the matrix in SI
chris5656 3 years ago
omg, you can tell your a geek... why would you even want to do all that? hows about go out and get a life...
kylechewyhewitt 3 years ago
whatever ur real cool
i hope that made you feel real badass
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
You have to be a geek to use figure out a glitch? Your ignorance is astounding.
chris5656 3 years ago
haha sorry dude i didnt get what u said at first but thanks :D ha i feel really bad
bluemonkeys2 2 years ago
what does unpatching do?
i have donloaded frostcrag spire if i unpatch how will that affect my saved game, dlc, etc?
flik6993 3 years ago
you don't need to tap a 100 times if you have more then 2 scrolls it worked for me when i only tapped a once
seanrandalmc 3 years ago
ya i figured that out a little while after i made the vid.
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
nvm i learned how to do it and i didnt need to unpatch my 360 so yeah ...
zouhair061208 3 years ago
oh
on another video it said i needed to
so thanks for telling me
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
do you have to unpatch it for the duping cheat to work?
zouhair061208 3 years ago
ya u do
if you dont know how to read the description
thanks for watchingg
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
no i did it with out unpatching it oh and i found a new dupe glitch
theblackcuriass 3 years ago
does this only work on scrolls?
cnsoup97 3 years ago
n it works on stuff like potions, arrows, rings, gold, lockpicks, and other small stuff like that. you can see in that room all the stuff i duplicated.
its veryy helpful
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
if you undo the updates, will the downloaded content you bought on the 360 go as well?
maxdude44 3 years ago
it does not delete the downloaded content, i tried it on mine. i unpatched it, repatched it, (i pressed a when the thing said that i had to update) and i still had mehrunes razor, frostcrag spire, and battlehorn castle. but i lost all progress i made on those things. i had to go do mehrunes razor again and battlehorn castle etc.
flik6993 3 years ago
lol all you need to tap A twice lol and it still works
killer1aces 3 years ago
nvm i used this glitch and it worked fine so yaaa
guitarlegend321654 3 years ago
ok good
glad it worked
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
will it get rid of everything you downloaded from xbox live when you unpatch it?
guitarlegend321654 3 years ago
not that i know of
didn't for me
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
ok i am from england so will anything be different also i am getting the game tomorrow so when i buy it and i try it if anything goes wrong i will ask you first if that's ok :D thanks man it really means alot to me
crushablake 3 years ago
nothing should be different
just dont update the game and follow my instructions on how to unpatch the xbox and everything should go okay
if you have any questions just ask
thanks alot :D
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
hey could you help me i am worried i may not be able to do the glitch people have been saying that if you have xbox live it don't work :( i would really appreciate some help
crushablake 3 years ago
i have xbox live and it works for me.
one thing i forgot to add is that i think you might have to uunpatch ur xbox and ill get back to u on how to do that in a sec
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
ok to unpatch ur xbox u go to the dashboard, go to memory, and on the screen where you can choose a device you press x x lb rb x x
then press yes i think it was
any questions comment the vid or message me again.
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
ok one more thing
this sux but if you updated the xbox then it doesnt work i dont think
sorry
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago
nice vid, thanks
zippyzee 3 years ago
np glad it helped
bluemonkeys2 3 years ago