@kenpca But you don't see the point. If you don't believe in Krishna, a Hindu doesn't care that you believe in 'a' God. So to him, you're just another Atheist. And it's so stupid. What makes your imaginary friend better than his? Nothing. Theyre all made up. You don't know what's out there any more than anybody. So why pretend and make it up? Especially seeing there's no evidence whatsoever.
There are highly intellectual people that do believe in God just as there are highly intellectual people who don't. Also, this is my first time watching either jezusfreek videos or yours but I didn't hear jezusfreek say as a matter of fact he knew where Christopher was..in fact he said he didn't want to make that judgment & hoped that Christopher did in fact receive Christ before he died. So, you were in accurate in your statement in this video from what I heard.
To answer your question "why?" God is a Spirit, one cannot come to know God via intellect alone for it is a matter of the heart & often times man's finite intellect gets in the way. Much like not being able to see the forest for the trees. One must come to God in humble faith believing he exists. I don't know Christopher but I have heard everyone liked him! :) But there are usually other reasons why we reject God such as lifestyle choices (since we all sin) for deep down we all know he exists.
@chrismac1980 It's hilarious that you have no answer. This started as you saying 'it's not an intellectual issue' and proved without a shadow of a doubt that it is, because Christians are stupid and the biggest Atheists that exist. I mean, you're so devoted to your God, and you think believing in anything else is dumb, which to those other religions, makes you an Atheist. Once you realise your own God is just as made up as the ones you despise you'll understand your mistake and be better for it.
@ponchred Atheism is the belief that there is NO god of any kind. If one believes there is a god of somekind, any kind..that makes one a "theist"...not an "Atheist.
@chrismac1980 Third post as your tiny mind can't seem to comprehend that there's a word limit, but I digress. It occurs to me that your last post is hypocritical seeing that you yourself are an athiest.
@chrismac1980 I know you'll copy this and twist it around like you have my previous 2 postswhich just proves that you have neither answers nor the originality to answer the question (I know you didn't like my harsh but true answer to your stupid one) but how does "everyone knows God exists ha" answer why you follow concepts from the bronze age? Does Zeus exist? Every man knows, right? Why not me or the millions of other athiests?
@chrismac1980 There you go. I have no way of answering how I use bronze age solutions to solve my problems, so ill take your reasonable answer and use its frame. You say every man knows God exists. I'm a man. I can see its made up. This instantly debunks your statement.
Tumors are often comprised of/composed of no more than 10% malignant (cancerous) cells. The tumor is only a symptom. Malignant cells are electrostatically-charged negative, as is the immune system, therefore they repeal one another. Tumorous masses are not always dangerous, nor is it always wise to surgically remove them. The malignant cells within a tumor are errant healing cells. Healing cells are trophoblasts, the selfsame cells that form pre-embryonic tissue.
"In order to stabilize world population, it is necessary to eliminate 350,000 people a day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it." — Oceanographer Jacques Cousteau, as quoted in "The Courier," a publication of the U.N. Educational, Scientific & Cultural Organization (U.N.E.S.C.O.)
"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." — Ted Turner of C.N.N., as quoted in the "McAlvany Intelligence Advisor," 6/96
@chrismac1980 What does that even MEAN???!!! He just didn't believe a story based on bronze age lies and absolute nonsense. If you have the 'heart' to accept a bunch of lies as 'truth' then bully for you. The reality is that it's totally an intellect issue. To such a point that it's hare to view religious people as anything but fools.
@ponchred So 98% of mankind who believe in God are a bunch of fools with no intellect? Why do atheist's continue debate a "bunch of fools". Why won't dawkins debate Craig, it should be a easy win for the atheist right? EVERY man knows that there is a God, some search with the intellect (which will never find god) and some with heart. A bunch of "lies" back by tons of manuscript evidence? Hmm. What's your case for truth if there no God?
@chrismac1980I didn't call anyone a fool. and manuscript evidence? You mean like the actual ancient history records of the time by Philo that in no way shape or form mention Jesus Christ? Did the number one political and religious reporter of the time miss a memo? What manuscripts apart from the bible and historians from decades after the fact (also connected to Rome) would you call 'evidence'?
@ponchred Only 25 years after Jesus death they found copies of manuscripts ( Homer 500 Plato 1,200 years) Josephus, Pliny the younger, Tacitus etc all speak of Christ. I rather believe scholars then some God hater on youtube!
@chrismac1980 Wow, only 25 YEARS???!!!! KIinda sounds like someone made a decision rather late, doesn't it? Or is your mind really that tiny? So confirming my point, there's no record of Christ from the history of HIS time. And for the record I don't hate God as God doesn't exist. I hate religious faggots who don't have the intelligence to see and understand what's happening around them without relying on made up fairy tales. BTW none of those scholars actually mention 'Jesus' by name.
@ponchred I sorry you hate "religious faggots" but that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. Lol.. You can hate me, the church, Jesus, Tim Tebow, still doesn't mean God doesn't exist! Yes I do see what is happening around me, things are getting worst just as the bible said it would..lol
@chrismac1980 And further to this only one of those was 25 years after the fact. The next closest (Tacitus) was 80 YEARS after the fact!!! If 25 years (or 80) from now, someone mentioned a magic man who walked on water, was born of an immaculate conception, and rose from the dead, but noone remembered it, and none of the history of the time mentioned him, do you think people would buy it? Do you even rationally consider these things? I'd love an explanation...
@ponchred So do you believe Tacitus existed? Can you disprove the dead sea scrolls which talk about Jesus (walking on water, rising from the etc) Can you explain the rise of Christianity in the face of persecution (which still happening today by yourself, youtubers and people around the world) Can you disprove the archeological facts pointing to the new testament? I'd love and explanation!
@chrismac1980 Why should you put any more creedence in the dead sea scrolls than the bible itself? Do you know who wrote them? For all you know it's gibberish like the bible. I can explain Christianity in the face of persecution as a bunch of idiots (yourself) clinging on to a fairy story for the past, wanting it to be real and wanting everyone else to believe it. In other words, 'stupidity'! You simply don't know any better.
@ponchred Really, you haven't answer my questions? Your response "a bunch of idiots".. I'm done.. I wasting my time! Last, why are you so passionate about a bunch of idiots and a God that doesn't exist! Lol.. It's funny that you respond with 3 post towards a idiot! lol. You atheist's make me laugh! . EVERY MAN KNOWS THAT GOD EXISTS!! DONE!
@chrismac1980 Oh, and way to go answering my question with a question. Very christian of you. So answer my question. How can you cling on to Bronze Age solutions when we have so much more tangible tested information here in the 21st century? Also, what archeological 'facts' point to the new testement? None of the history from that actual time mentions, refers to it, ot has been dug up. It's all as you admit YEARS after the fact.
@chrismac1980 And way to go ending your post with my exact words. First rate sarcasm. Next time don't tack it on to such an easy question. How do you explain Christianity's rise?! Their idiots who believe in zombies and talking snakes. Next! It really is that simple. Like you.
@chrismac1980 which one.. there is over 3,700 of them.. but but but my god is the one true god, my god is the one true god. shut the fuck up... that's what other religions would say too.
I remember the days of jezuzfreek777 telling me in a stickam chatroom that my children would burn if I didnt help them find jesus, he kicked me out of his room when I asked if he had stoned his gay brother in law yet, I wouldnt even waste a min of my time searching for a video of jesusfreek s nor am I interested in what he has to say about anyone, I have listened enough to his obsessed chat on his guns and on his god and came to the conclusion that the man is an arrogant immoral deluded twit
Man I don't know whether you just started using YouTube or just like redundant discussions. For one I don't think it is good using Christopher Hitchens' death to start a debate so to speak. You would be better off just asking a question without it being a response to Jezuzfreeks' commentary. Also your question presumes something which is unknown. You say "why do droves of intellectual men turn away form your god" Same could be asked of you "why do droves of men turn to god?" etc
The thing is; Hitch was great in his journalism and political writing while his theology was rather rubbish. So that can fulfil the challenge you have made.
They turn away because they don't like the truth. It would humble Hitchens gigantic ego to know he was created and therefore something is greater than himself. He refused to submit. He judged God. Now he is judged of God.
@pennylaneproductions i seriously don't think thats the case. There is no real compelling evidence that a god exist and if one did and we could prove it then the next step is finding out which god that is. It may not even be your god.
@Criticallyincorrect Exactly. Personally, if any of the various religions were correct, I'd love the Irish mythology to be true. At least their gods and goddesses weren't total assholes, and actually helped out. That, and they liked sleeping with mortals. Something about having sex with a goddess of war just sounds appealing
@pennylaneproductions what god of the thousands that have been invented by mankind would that be? You refuse to submit to Zeus so you will be judged when you die... sounds pretty stupid doesn't it.
@pennylaneproductions What a load of crap. The man died. People die. It doesn't instantly mean you are 'created' (which you're not - at least not in the sense you're implying) and only a retarded child would believe it. Or perhaps you're under the delusion you were magically carved out of a man's rib bone?
@ShadowWolf922@ShadowWolf922 True, indeed. I love how Thunderfoot pwns him over and over. It's funny because it's true. Now, I read this from the jezuzfreek's vid. by this poster. I mentioned all the wars in history and how christians were the one's who started them in the name of god. I got this reply:
@Bllackguard666 Christians did not do any of that - a lot of evil was done in the name of Christianity.
@kenpca But you don't see the point. If you don't believe in Krishna, a Hindu doesn't care that you believe in 'a' God. So to him, you're just another Atheist. And it's so stupid. What makes your imaginary friend better than his? Nothing. Theyre all made up. You don't know what's out there any more than anybody. So why pretend and make it up? Especially seeing there's no evidence whatsoever.
ponchred 4 weeks ago
There are highly intellectual people that do believe in God just as there are highly intellectual people who don't. Also, this is my first time watching either jezusfreek videos or yours but I didn't hear jezusfreek say as a matter of fact he knew where Christopher was..in fact he said he didn't want to make that judgment & hoped that Christopher did in fact receive Christ before he died. So, you were in accurate in your statement in this video from what I heard.
kenpca 4 weeks ago
To answer your question "why?" God is a Spirit, one cannot come to know God via intellect alone for it is a matter of the heart & often times man's finite intellect gets in the way. Much like not being able to see the forest for the trees. One must come to God in humble faith believing he exists. I don't know Christopher but I have heard everyone liked him! :) But there are usually other reasons why we reject God such as lifestyle choices (since we all sin) for deep down we all know he exists.
kenpca 4 weeks ago
@chrismac1980 It's hilarious that you have no answer. This started as you saying 'it's not an intellectual issue' and proved without a shadow of a doubt that it is, because Christians are stupid and the biggest Atheists that exist. I mean, you're so devoted to your God, and you think believing in anything else is dumb, which to those other religions, makes you an Atheist. Once you realise your own God is just as made up as the ones you despise you'll understand your mistake and be better for it.
ponchred 1 month ago
@ponchred Atheism is the belief that there is NO god of any kind. If one believes there is a god of somekind, any kind..that makes one a "theist"...not an "Atheist.
kenpca 4 weeks ago
@chrismac1980 Third post as your tiny mind can't seem to comprehend that there's a word limit, but I digress. It occurs to me that your last post is hypocritical seeing that you yourself are an athiest.
ponchred 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 I know you'll copy this and twist it around like you have my previous 2 postswhich just proves that you have neither answers nor the originality to answer the question (I know you didn't like my harsh but true answer to your stupid one) but how does "everyone knows God exists ha" answer why you follow concepts from the bronze age? Does Zeus exist? Every man knows, right? Why not me or the millions of other athiests?
ponchred 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 There you go. I have no way of answering how I use bronze age solutions to solve my problems, so ill take your reasonable answer and use its frame. You say every man knows God exists. I'm a man. I can see its made up. This instantly debunks your statement.
ponchred 1 month ago
Tumors are often comprised of/composed of no more than 10% malignant (cancerous) cells. The tumor is only a symptom. Malignant cells are electrostatically-charged negative, as is the immune system, therefore they repeal one another. Tumorous masses are not always dangerous, nor is it always wise to surgically remove them. The malignant cells within a tumor are errant healing cells. Healing cells are trophoblasts, the selfsame cells that form pre-embryonic tissue.
SimmerInJuly 2 months ago
"In order to stabilize world population, it is necessary to eliminate 350,000 people a day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it." — Oceanographer Jacques Cousteau, as quoted in "The Courier," a publication of the U.N. Educational, Scientific & Cultural Organization (U.N.E.S.C.O.)
"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." — Ted Turner of C.N.N., as quoted in the "McAlvany Intelligence Advisor," 6/96
SimmerInJuly 2 months ago
@SimmerInJuly You're a fucking retard.
ponchred 2 months ago
you're ending is wonderful.... cheers with some johny walker black!
schizobipolarjoe 2 months ago
It's not a intellect issue, its a heart issue.. Hitch clearly didn't have the HEART for God.
chrismac1980 2 months ago
@chrismac1980 What does that even MEAN???!!! He just didn't believe a story based on bronze age lies and absolute nonsense. If you have the 'heart' to accept a bunch of lies as 'truth' then bully for you. The reality is that it's totally an intellect issue. To such a point that it's hare to view religious people as anything but fools.
ponchred 2 months ago
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@ponchred Don't cry over Hitchens as he wasn't the only homosexual on T.V.
SimmerInJuly 2 months ago
@SimmerInJuly Is being homosexual a bad thing? Or did we somehow time travel back to 1980? Idiot...
ponchred 2 months ago
@ponchred : You'll know in prison, sister.
SimmerInJuly 2 months ago
@SimmerInJuly Do you even have a working brain? That last comment makes no sense whatsoever.
ponchred 2 months ago
@SimmerInJuly And why am I suddenly going to prison? Seems more like something you'd be stupid enough to do. Lol. Idiot God botherer.
ponchred 2 months ago
@ponchred So 98% of mankind who believe in God are a bunch of fools with no intellect? Why do atheist's continue debate a "bunch of fools". Why won't dawkins debate Craig, it should be a easy win for the atheist right? EVERY man knows that there is a God, some search with the intellect (which will never find god) and some with heart. A bunch of "lies" back by tons of manuscript evidence? Hmm. What's your case for truth if there no God?
chrismac1980 2 months ago
@chrismac1980I didn't call anyone a fool. and manuscript evidence? You mean like the actual ancient history records of the time by Philo that in no way shape or form mention Jesus Christ? Did the number one political and religious reporter of the time miss a memo? What manuscripts apart from the bible and historians from decades after the fact (also connected to Rome) would you call 'evidence'?
ponchred 2 months ago
@ponchred Only 25 years after Jesus death they found copies of manuscripts ( Homer 500 Plato 1,200 years) Josephus, Pliny the younger, Tacitus etc all speak of Christ. I rather believe scholars then some God hater on youtube!
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 Wow, only 25 YEARS???!!!! KIinda sounds like someone made a decision rather late, doesn't it? Or is your mind really that tiny? So confirming my point, there's no record of Christ from the history of HIS time. And for the record I don't hate God as God doesn't exist. I hate religious faggots who don't have the intelligence to see and understand what's happening around them without relying on made up fairy tales. BTW none of those scholars actually mention 'Jesus' by name.
ponchred 1 month ago
@ponchred I sorry you hate "religious faggots" but that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. Lol.. You can hate me, the church, Jesus, Tim Tebow, still doesn't mean God doesn't exist! Yes I do see what is happening around me, things are getting worst just as the bible said it would..lol
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 And further to this only one of those was 25 years after the fact. The next closest (Tacitus) was 80 YEARS after the fact!!! If 25 years (or 80) from now, someone mentioned a magic man who walked on water, was born of an immaculate conception, and rose from the dead, but noone remembered it, and none of the history of the time mentioned him, do you think people would buy it? Do you even rationally consider these things? I'd love an explanation...
ponchred 1 month ago
@ponchred So do you believe Tacitus existed? Can you disprove the dead sea scrolls which talk about Jesus (walking on water, rising from the etc) Can you explain the rise of Christianity in the face of persecution (which still happening today by yourself, youtubers and people around the world) Can you disprove the archeological facts pointing to the new testament? I'd love and explanation!
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 Why should you put any more creedence in the dead sea scrolls than the bible itself? Do you know who wrote them? For all you know it's gibberish like the bible. I can explain Christianity in the face of persecution as a bunch of idiots (yourself) clinging on to a fairy story for the past, wanting it to be real and wanting everyone else to believe it. In other words, 'stupidity'! You simply don't know any better.
ponchred 1 month ago
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chrismac1980 1 month ago
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@ponchred Really, you haven't answer my questions? Your response "a bunch of idiots".. I'm done.. I wasting my time! Last, why are you so passionate about a bunch of idiots and a God that doesn't exist! Lol.. It's funny that you respond with 3 post towards a idiot! lol. You atheist's make me laugh! . EVERY MAN KNOWS THAT GOD EXISTS!! DONE!
chrismac1980 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 Oh, and way to go answering my question with a question. Very christian of you. So answer my question. How can you cling on to Bronze Age solutions when we have so much more tangible tested information here in the 21st century? Also, what archeological 'facts' point to the new testement? None of the history from that actual time mentions, refers to it, ot has been dug up. It's all as you admit YEARS after the fact.
ponchred 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 And way to go ending your post with my exact words. First rate sarcasm. Next time don't tack it on to such an easy question. How do you explain Christianity's rise?! Their idiots who believe in zombies and talking snakes. Next! It really is that simple. Like you.
ponchred 1 month ago
@chrismac1980 which one.. there is over 3,700 of them.. but but but my god is the one true god, my god is the one true god. shut the fuck up... that's what other religions would say too.
schizobipolarjoe 2 months ago
I remember the days of jezuzfreek777 telling me in a stickam chatroom that my children would burn if I didnt help them find jesus, he kicked me out of his room when I asked if he had stoned his gay brother in law yet, I wouldnt even waste a min of my time searching for a video of jesusfreek s nor am I interested in what he has to say about anyone, I have listened enough to his obsessed chat on his guns and on his god and came to the conclusion that the man is an arrogant immoral deluded twit
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ChrisEsty777 2 months ago
The world is a little less bright now.
zacrl1230 2 months ago
Obviously you're not "covered in the blood of Christ", as Jezuzfreek prays that you are. Lol!
TheDude0fLife 2 months ago
Man I don't know whether you just started using YouTube or just like redundant discussions. For one I don't think it is good using Christopher Hitchens' death to start a debate so to speak. You would be better off just asking a question without it being a response to Jezuzfreeks' commentary. Also your question presumes something which is unknown. You say "why do droves of intellectual men turn away form your god" Same could be asked of you "why do droves of men turn to god?" etc
StopFear 2 months ago
The thing is; Hitch was great in his journalism and political writing while his theology was rather rubbish. So that can fulfil the challenge you have made.
SPR4GOD 2 months ago
If hell is real... I would rather be in hell with Hitchens than to be an eternal worshipping slave in heaven.
tsunami770 2 months ago
i love the way you talk Chris XD
KyoSohmaa12 2 months ago
They turn away because they don't like the truth. It would humble Hitchens gigantic ego to know he was created and therefore something is greater than himself. He refused to submit. He judged God. Now he is judged of God.
pennylaneproductions 2 months ago 2
@pennylaneproductions i seriously don't think thats the case. There is no real compelling evidence that a god exist and if one did and we could prove it then the next step is finding out which god that is. It may not even be your god.
Criticallyincorrect 2 months ago
@Criticallyincorrect Exactly. Personally, if any of the various religions were correct, I'd love the Irish mythology to be true. At least their gods and goddesses weren't total assholes, and actually helped out. That, and they liked sleeping with mortals. Something about having sex with a goddess of war just sounds appealing
ShadowWolf922 2 months ago
@pennylaneproductions what god of the thousands that have been invented by mankind would that be? You refuse to submit to Zeus so you will be judged when you die... sounds pretty stupid doesn't it.
TerryStoneNL 2 months ago
@pennylaneproductions What a load of crap. The man died. People die. It doesn't instantly mean you are 'created' (which you're not - at least not in the sense you're implying) and only a retarded child would believe it. Or perhaps you're under the delusion you were magically carved out of a man's rib bone?
ponchred 2 months ago
Freewill.
ThomasWinkworth 2 months ago
I am still uploading a reply to this religious, lunatic, too. This jezusfreek is the posterchild for how religion is a mental illness.
Bllackguard666 2 months ago
@Bllackguard666 He's pretty bad, but he could always be worse. He could be venomfangx
ShadowWolf922 2 months ago
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Bllackguard666 2 months ago
@ShadowWolf922 @ShadowWolf922 True, indeed. I love how Thunderfoot pwns him over and over. It's funny because it's true. Now, I read this from the jezuzfreek's vid. by this poster. I mentioned all the wars in history and how christians were the one's who started them in the name of god. I got this reply:
@Bllackguard666 Christians did not do any of that - a lot of evil was done in the name of Christianity.
jbooks888 2 hours ago
Epic contradiction, so epic, it's almost a win.
Bllackguard666 2 months ago
@ShadowWolf922 or shock of god or Nephlimfree......
pandorachild 1 month ago
@Bllackguard666 I'll have to check out your comments.
MrNicMachiavelli 2 months ago
I don't know what Jesusfreak777 said, nor do I care. I love Christopher Hitchens and you paid great homage to his memory. *Thumbs up
aqouby 2 months ago
@aqouby Thank you. He truly was a great man, and the world is a much worse place without him
ShadowWolf922 2 months ago