Look: these two forever alones are arguing over opera. Who gives a shit; there's a tentacled blue alien singing and dancing for our entertainment. That's what's important here.
Anyone notice that her dancing moves are completely different from what we see in the movie? There is a notable difference. I'm guessing this wasn't the final take. Most notable is 4:24
I always wondered why her mouth looked weird while singing.. and then I learned that the actress was lip syncing.. bleh. Voice = Inva Mula.
I also would totally love to hear Tarja sing this aria ("Oh, giusto cielo!...Il dolce suono" (the mad scene) from Gaetano Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor)
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@MrNakhrul Tarja Turunen compaired to all the other great opera singers sounds like a goat. So many great singers could pull this song off, but not her. She just does not have the range.
Get the fuck out, aphone. And stop insulting because your stupidity turns those insults to yourself.
This song is performed by opera inger Inva Mula which is a coloratura soprano having a bit less than 3 octaves. Her voice cannot reach the low notes in this song, it's processed. Heard her live, does not even resemble.
Funnily Tarja is a lyrical/spinto soprano with a LIVE singing range of almost 4 octaves.
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@MrNakhrul Quit getting your panties in a twist. And you seriously have to insult my intelligence just because I don't like Tarja? Wow, She may have "range", But that doesn't mean that it sounds good.
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@MrNakhrul Range isn't enough to sing opera arias. The timbre needs to be beautiful and even; good legato line - smooth without audible breaks, strong base. One needs technique,ability to hit very difficult combinations of notes effortlessly, sing long lines on a single breath, breath quietly. Clear dction in many languages. Good phrasing. Artistry. A lot of people don't realize how difficult the 1st part here is. It comes from a bel canto aria, not even all opera singers can do it.
@MrNakhrul Yes, these are standards for opera. But bel canto music has special difficulties, including agility. I've never heard Tarja display any agility. Tarja was never an opera singer. Her major was chamber music, not opera.
I heard Tarja's singing of Schubert Ave Maria. IMHO - it was bad. She was hoarse - probably from years of singing metal, her German diction was poor, and her expression - non-existent. As to "fun" - it's in the eyes (in this case ears) of the beholder.
Rectification: "Tarja sings for fun better opera arias" .. I know (and are amused of) purist's obsession for term differentiation: singing arias, performing a full opera. Whatever.
Callas, Sutherland or Caballe had inhuman skill yet their voice was ugly at base.
Tarja is worldclass as skill - maybe not the best - but skill is not even her main focus. Her voice's beauty and richness are.
And she is better even technically than the likes of Inva Mula.
@MrNakhrul If you were going to opera all your life, surely you understand that singing a few arias especially in heavily miked concerts but even in chamber music concert is a whole lot easier than singing in opera, and that the ability to do the former doesn't make one able to do the latter. Also, the audience is far less demanding. Callas' voice was harsh, I agree, but Caballe's was gorgeous - I heard her live. As I said, I wasn't impressed of Tarja's singing of Schubert.
There are only a few TV recordings of Tarja singing Schubert's Ave Maria and they are shitty quality. I heard her live singing that and is beautiful. Here's her with 3 other versions in unprofessional but at least decent recordings
/watch?v=H_SZ7S2MtJA
/watch?v=YQlDO6daZ-k
/watch?v=QfNTXeeeTog
At least the one from Caccini/Vavilov is the best I heard in my life and I've heard many since it's my favorite Ave Maria.
@bogdy555ful These recordings are indeed much better than those of Schubert - the issue there was the sound, but not only, there was also lack of expression, but these are much better. She does sound like a classical singer in these recordings, although her voice sounds lovely in these recordings. It sounds more like very light lyric to me - strong enough for chamber music but not opera. Notice how close she is to the mic.
That has nothing to do with the mic. Also it's obvious that the Schubert recording has been filtered on input and lost the original sound.
You are relying on logical observation instead of relying on your ear.
She also sang at opera with no microphone but as you know fan-filming is restricted there. Found an audio recording done with the cell phone /watch?v=IKo0Fj8Fx8c
A russian guy also posted a video but his account was closed.
@bogdy555ful I am afraid I don't like the interpretation in your link. It's not terrible, she has a nice voice, but it's too slow, a legato isn't good, etc. Phrasing, not much expression. A singer who'd sing like this at any opera competition will not get far. Also, it's the simplest aria there is in opera, many people sing it who could never sing in opera. In which theater did she sing a complete role in? Her training was in church/lieder not opera.
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@AubreyanaLoveBoat I agree. Tarja is a tock/metal singer. She may have had classical training, but a) her major was chamber music, not opera b) she's never been anywhere near the top even as a lieder singer. Her recordings of classical pieces are terrible. A lot of people don't realize that the reason they might prefer her is because they are more used to pop sound.
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@MrNakhrul The term lyrical/spinto only applies to opera singers because it relates to the vocal weight and unamplified singing - in simpler terms a spinto can sing parts with louder orchestra Tarja isn't an opera singer at all, and there isn't a single recording of her singing without a microphone. You cannot judge vocal weight with amplification. Yes, she's had classical training, but her major was chamber music, not opera, very different. Also, this piece requires a coloratura.
Really? Since when voice classification is made during a performance? Silly me, I thought it's made separately by a comitee and her dedicated teacher :)
BTW there are recordings of her performing in opera without microphones. Sanvolinna when she was around 26 for eg or with Noche Escandinavia.
Lastly: the trademark of a lyrico spinto is the squillo - natural or acquired.
Tarja's was obvious even since she was singing dramatic/mezzo repertoire.
@MrNakhrul Classification isn't made during the performance, obviously, but it's only makes sense for unamplified singing. A microphone can make any voice sound larger. Tarja performed in chamber music concerts never in opera. Chamber music requires lighter voices than opera. As to squillo - please look it up - it's not specific to spinto, it is needed by lyric voices, it enables them to be heard over an orchestra. Light voices require it e.g. Juan-Diego Florez.
I don't need to look it up, if you haven't felt it until now - I am talking from experience. Even in professional's world there are hot debates about terms. There is little space here to write a proper argument, but in a few words:
- Opera singers are not superior classical singers and the do NOT have stronger voices. They benefit from the opera hall's acoustics and trained techniques to be heard over the orchestra
@MrNakhrul I know about "singer's formant", but it's only part of the story. There is also resonance - the ability to use body cavities for it. There is also natural gift. If all it was was the technique than the size (vocal weight) of the voice wouldn't have mattered, and a light lyric could have sung Brunhilde. In a documentary about Met opera competition, the judges thought her voice was too light for a large theater like the Met, but would do well for Europe.
- Most common being the "singer's formant". It's not exactly as you find it explained on internet.It's more than a simple extra frequency at 3Kh, but an enriched sound. Too much to explain here.
- Another is the squillo. Again is an extra frequency and again a bit different. If you listen closely, natural squillo has a very specific sound and starts manifesting IN the vibrato. Like a shimmer, a spark. And it's hearable on low volumes also.
@MrNakhrul (cont) then there are singers whose voices are fine to project in an art song recital with a piano or small chamber group in a hall built for acoustics, but too small (light) for opera. Also, it isn't just the ability to project which one opera singer called "an athletic feat". It's also the ability to do it in 3-5 hour performance while acting; clear diction, phrasing. Music difficulty - recitatives are often more difficult than arias. Artistry, ability to communicate.
Funnily, it's best noticed on BAD recordings. It's like, the orchestra and all else sounds like a mess, but the singer's squillo floats over everything like a clinging bell.
- To make the long story short, it's hearable and not very much debatable. Some light singers train something that resembles - but is not eal squillo. Tarja has real squillo, you can hear it sometimes even when she laughs or whatever.
Lastly, I already wrote this: Taraj did sing at the opera. Not much, because her main career was focused on metal. And excuse my french, milions of diehard NW and Tarja fans are grateful for that.
Nowadays she uses a microphone most of the times, because she sings in open spaces and with amplified instruments.
Not even King Kong can be heard over amplified rock + symphonic instruments.
@MrNakhrul Tarja sang some arias from operas at Savonlina opera festival, but she's never sung in full operas. She herself said that "singing opera cannot be performed as a side proejct" and that "she would need special training to perfectly sing an entire opera without a microphone". Oh and this piece is for a coloratura, nothing in her singing shows agility. BTW - are you seriously not understand how difficult this is: /watch?v=Q3kzqzXHp2A - in the last act after a lot of singing.
@MrNakhrul I don't know what anvergure is, and I do agree that each voice type has different timbre and skills, and each genre has merit and gives joy to different groups of people. I am not saying being in a different genre is somehow "below", I am saying that she isn't an opera singer which is a simple statement of genre not good or bad; also that this piece requires an opera singer and specifically a coloratura soprano which Tarja isn't.
@jewelmarkess I agree with you completely. I think MrNakhrul is simply a Tarja fan who thinks she can sing anything and doesn't want to face the fact that she can't sing everything...including the fact that she can't sing the Fifth Element combination aria and 'fireworks" display. She has not the voice or the coloratura.
.... So, the one which did not understand (or misunderstood me) is yourself. She is no "opera singer" because she is not hired at the opera. How and when could she - she was a legend of METAL before she was 30 years old.
Is she LESS? That's the real issue here, if you want to speak frankly.
That's the problem - pretentious and "cult" people that consider as low, anything else than their genre.
"Real metalheads", "real opera listeners" and so on.
... Myself, because i dug deep in various genres (like-performing, not "just listening") consider the style and technique just a means of expression. So did Tarja.
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Imho she is much MORE than most opera/non-opera singers alive today.
She proved it by performing one of the finest metal ever. And then, one of the finest classical .. just for fun maybe, rarely maybe, but proved that she CAN.
Regarding skillful coloratura from her ... research deeper :)
@MrNakhrul I am not saying she is a bad singer, just not an opera singer. I don't believe opera is the best genre - maybe I like it most, but I appreciate that other people like other genres. If anything, most opera singers aren't good when they try other genres. There are exception like Malena Ernman - now this is an example of a singer who can sing anything - opera and to highest opera standards and jazz or pop - without sounding like an opera singer. But let's not confuse genres.
1. This is my last reply here because we are getting way off topic and - with you at least - towards nothing.
2. The "Il mio.." recording you commented on is almost identical with Maria Callas interpretation (opra critics said that at the time, not me). The recording is bad but if your ear keeps hearing differently than anyone else's.. better check your ear.
3. With no exception, on every reply I gave you I barely refrained to insult. You are just too much.
@MrNakhrul Funny how you are barely refrained to insult whereas I've always been polite and respectful. As to off topic, I am not the one who brought up the name of another singer who isn't a coloratura and hence couldn't sing this on a video of a famous coloratura. 1. Callas' voice is almost gone in one of her o mio babbino caro recording, but it's very nuanced; and is very different 2. People who don't know opera don't understand the importance of phrasing, legato, artistry.
@MrNakhrul Actually, your words show lack of knowledge of opera e.g. calling Tarja a spinto yet thinking she can sing a COLORATURA (!) piece. I've been going to opera since I was 6, I've also had voice lessons though as an amateur. And no, I've not tried to start a war, I was just having a polite conversation where parties disagree. Anyway, if you don't want to come back - don't.
It would be a shame to leave such comment as the last word in the topic.
Anybody can sing anything. That does not mean it does it without straining. Many mezzo's sing lyric pieces, lyric sing coloratura and so on. This piece has coloratura but is not coloratura per se.
@MrNakhrul "Anybody can sing anything" - yes, right, maybe transposed and maybe slower and skipping most notes. But not as written. Yes many mezzos can sing coloratura because coloratura indicates agility not range, there is a voice type called "coloratura mezzo soprano" too. Plus, there are also some singers who have some coloratura ability and technique - enough for some arias/roles but not others. This piece does requires coloratura ability. Again, Tarja is NOT a spinto.
@MrNakhrul I assure you I'm not a clone. You, however, are rude and vulgar as witness your posts. Tarja still couldn't sing this. She is a pop singer and also she doesn't have the range. Yes, I know she studied at a conservatory, but that doesn't make her an opera singer.
I assure you that the number of neurons in your head is equal to the number of times I have said Tarja is an opera singer.
Opera singer = an employee of an opera house.
Tarja = a classicaly trained singer who sings whatever she wants whenever she wants.
Why would someone who made history (and a fortune) in metal and has millions of die hard fans, go and sign a contract with an opera house.. beats me. She does not even like opera so much btw.
@MrNakhrul i never said she would want to sing opera, just that her voice isn't suitable for opera and that she does not have a four octave (usable) range. i also said that she couldn't sing the Fifth Element piece. you are so obsessed with her that you can't view her objectively. Vulgarity and insults are the last refuge for people who have no valid arguments.
@MrNakhrul TARJA IS NEVER BEEN AN OPERA SINGER CAUSE SHE CAN"T SPREAD HER VOICE WITHOUT A MIC OVER AN ORCHESTRA SHE IS AN CLASSICAL SINGER USED IN METAL BUT NOT AN OPERA SINGER NEITHER IS INVA MULA
@MrNakhrul wait i Mean real opera and I study music and vocals and i know that her voice is to weak a true opera vocal can spread her voice over an orchestra with more than 50 instruments tarja will be smashed away by an orchestra that does not take away that she can sing majesticly
You "study" music amateur-level but think you are able to analize a legend of metal which also has 20-25 years of classical training. PROFESSIONALY. And did 2 conservatories. And - the list is huge -
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You may be hit in the head aside from being deaf. I tell you the third time: not only your ears are bad, but reality contradicts you. Tarja did sing at opera, without microphone.
By the way, you DO notice everything you say is false. Yesterday evening you posted Tarja and Inva Mula are not opera singers, today I already see multiple people replying that you are wrong.
@MrNakhrul Give me a break. Tarja is no spinto. She is not a coloratura. She is purely a pop singer who would never be invited to sing a complete role in a live opera in a legitimate opera house. She is a pop opera singer just like Bocelli, Church, Potts, Watson, Brightman, Jenkins.
Singers are not invited but they are hired. I have 2 friends (tenors) hired at the state opera and they are nothing special. Just professionals earning their living.
Tarja and Bocelli are in my opinion better artists than anybody singing at the opera today.
@TheRicochet4 If you want to say hired then Tarja has never been hired to sing a role in a complete opera in a legitimate opera house and never will. Your friends are no doubt classically trained and can sing without a mic. Bocelli actually sang a recital at the Met (It was purely a money making thing. Don't confuse popularity with greatness.) and he could hardly be heard because there are no mics at the Met.
@MrNakhrul she has 3.2 or 3.2 octaves Tarja she could just do the song on the edge the thing about tarja she has a full voice this is a crystal clear made one so it would sound not even close, i myself am a countertenor but when you look at my vocals i am actually a colouratura meezo-soprano with a huge range in the studio and a normal range live studio: E2-B6 live: B2-Ab6
Inva Mula sang this particular song in this movie and not Maiwenn who played the character. A little google wikipedia goes a long way lol just so you know
it's very hard to believe that there's no sampler or any other electronic gadgets in the parts like @ 4:24 or 4:27, or 4:34. I do have a very fine ear, and to me those parts sound soo box-sampled - but I'd rather prefer to discover that it's all genuitne voice only!!!
@randomerkitty Almost .. there are a few notes that are digitized on top of her voice to give it that bizarre feel , it's done in a subtle way, that doesn't take away from her awesomeness though :)
@samoht1977 your ear is fine :) and those moments are box sample on top of her voice , it's done in a subtle way so it gives it that " other worldliness " to it
@xamanto I wonder, why it is so... Doesn't the uploader give a shit that he has uploaded an inferior quality video? Or is he just auditorily and visually dull?
Diva Plavalaguna , performed by Maïwenn Le Besco ( French Actress ) the voice behind her is the Ms Inva Mula ( Albanian opera soprano ) , and "The Diva dance" song is : "" Oh, giusto cielo!...Il dolce suono"" (the mad scene) from Gaetano Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor, just to clear some misslead comments
Would have been amazing if at 4:45 the lighting guy walked in behind and went "oops sorry..." Then she went off on him like only christian bale could ;)
I'm agree with you even I think they seemed cut too much the scene beyond necessary. The edited version is much fit for the subtle, elegant and cold facade for an opera singer, IMHO.
@opesenator Individual tastes differ, but the first part of this is an opera aria and Vitas is a pop singer who sings it like a pop song with no understanding of the style of what it's about. He doesn't have the technique to go near it. Inva Mula is an opera singer, one of the top ones, she understands the style of Donizetti, her diction is perfect, she expresses what she sings. She is effortless, her tone is gorgeous. No comparison. Vitas butchers the aria part.
@mactap1606 shes is a beutiful french lady and was chosen by her beuty to be a diva, the one who carry on her body divine stones. at the end there is noting of masculine on her.
@Takilla2 Actually, I'd love to see the video of Inva Mula singing the actual full opera aria on opera stage (the first part - the one that comes from opera is only a start of a 20-minute scene). She did the role (Lucia in Lucia di Lammermoor) many times, but there are no videos here available.
La Danza de la diva me cautivo desde que la vi en la película por primera vez!, siempre quise verla a ella representar toda la pieza de esta magnifica technnopera!
Look: these two forever alones are arguing over opera. Who gives a shit; there's a tentacled blue alien singing and dancing for our entertainment. That's what's important here.
maromikun 1 week ago 7
4:34,..did she really do that..that crazy
mpa324 2 weeks ago
Someone directed and edited this into the original movie xtremely well :)
sarafalkner 2 weeks ago
The only thing is when Maïwenn Le Besco landed this role, it really gave her a big head.
trumpetvids 2 weeks ago
Almost cry!!!
Aleistercr01 3 weeks ago
4:28 - 4:36 is this a real voice? I dont think so
JohnnyDragonGr 3 weeks ago
@JohnnyDragonGr Yes, it is real. Type in YT "Fifth Element Diva song - full version. SINGING - EVGENIA LAGUNA."
TeddyBear0000000 3 weeks ago
Ingenioso!
hansini3 4 weeks ago
this is AVATAR in 2000 year :D
ReactoR691 4 weeks ago
at 4:35 what she did was said not to be possible for people but she devised a method of circular breathing to pull it off.
Talis17118 1 month ago
@Talis17118 That's not Maiwenn's real voice.
GhostPirate6 3 weeks ago
Anyone notice that her dancing moves are completely different from what we see in the movie? There is a notable difference. I'm guessing this wasn't the final take. Most notable is 4:24
GhostPirate6 1 month ago
guess what? if they use trololo in this movie. LOL
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Ah, quella voce m'è qui nel cor discesa!
Edgardo! io ti son resa. Edgardo! Ah! Edgardo, mio! Si', ti son resa!
fuggita io son da' tuoi nemici. (Ahhh! nemici)
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trema ogni fibra!
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I always wondered why her mouth looked weird while singing.. and then I learned that the actress was lip syncing.. bleh. Voice = Inva Mula.
I also would totally love to hear Tarja sing this aria ("Oh, giusto cielo!...Il dolce suono" (the mad scene) from Gaetano Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor)
PMSAnex 1 month ago 2
so , so cool
daniela123475 1 month ago
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Im sorry but Tarja Turunen sounds like a dying goat. To have anyone but the original woman sing this song would be pure blasphemy...
AubreyanaLoveBoat 1 month ago
@AubreyanaLoveBoat
I'll say that someone in the feminine side of your family sounds like a dying goat. And that your ears are linked to your ass.
Tarja would sound times better than this electronically altered voice.
MrNakhrul 1 month ago 10
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@MrNakhrul Tarja Turunen compaired to all the other great opera singers sounds like a goat. So many great singers could pull this song off, but not her. She just does not have the range.
AubreyanaLoveBoat 3 weeks ago
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Get the fuck out, aphone. And stop insulting because your stupidity turns those insults to yourself.
This song is performed by opera inger Inva Mula which is a coloratura soprano having a bit less than 3 octaves. Her voice cannot reach the low notes in this song, it's processed. Heard her live, does not even resemble.
Funnily Tarja is a lyrical/spinto soprano with a LIVE singing range of almost 4 octaves.
In theory she could sing this even live.
MrNakhrul 3 weeks ago 23
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Chill, Tarja is times better than this.
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@MrNakhrul Quit getting your panties in a twist. And you seriously have to insult my intelligence just because I don't like Tarja? Wow, She may have "range", But that doesn't mean that it sounds good.
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I am not "insulting your intelligence" because you showed none.
YOU insulted Tarja and called her names, AND your "argument" was about range.
My reply though focused on the range and it was simple: you are wrong.
BTW: You are pretty insecure if you get so inflamed by a stranger on a forum.
MrNakhrul 3 weeks ago 2
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@MrNakhrul Range isn't enough to sing opera arias. The timbre needs to be beautiful and even; good legato line - smooth without audible breaks, strong base. One needs technique,ability to hit very difficult combinations of notes effortlessly, sing long lines on a single breath, breath quietly. Clear dction in many languages. Good phrasing. Artistry. A lot of people don't realize how difficult the 1st part here is. It comes from a bel canto aria, not even all opera singers can do it.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
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- My original reply was concerning range, because the original poster stated stupidities about range. Nothing more.
- The feats you mentioned are snot bel canto per se. They are standard for any good opera singer. Imho Tarja is beyond that since she was 20-22 years.
- I love and listen opera since childhood - it demands effort and it's hard. But not all it's hard is also beautiful or superior. Or art tbh.
- Tarja sings for fun better opera than most "divas" today.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul Yes, these are standards for opera. But bel canto music has special difficulties, including agility. I've never heard Tarja display any agility. Tarja was never an opera singer. Her major was chamber music, not opera.
I heard Tarja's singing of Schubert Ave Maria. IMHO - it was bad. She was hoarse - probably from years of singing metal, her German diction was poor, and her expression - non-existent. As to "fun" - it's in the eyes (in this case ears) of the beholder.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
Rectification: "Tarja sings for fun better opera arias" .. I know (and are amused of) purist's obsession for term differentiation: singing arias, performing a full opera. Whatever.
Callas, Sutherland or Caballe had inhuman skill yet their voice was ugly at base.
Tarja is worldclass as skill - maybe not the best - but skill is not even her main focus. Her voice's beauty and richness are.
And she is better even technically than the likes of Inva Mula.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul If you were going to opera all your life, surely you understand that singing a few arias especially in heavily miked concerts but even in chamber music concert is a whole lot easier than singing in opera, and that the ability to do the former doesn't make one able to do the latter. Also, the audience is far less demanding. Callas' voice was harsh, I agree, but Caballe's was gorgeous - I heard her live. As I said, I wasn't impressed of Tarja's singing of Schubert.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
There are only a few TV recordings of Tarja singing Schubert's Ave Maria and they are shitty quality. I heard her live singing that and is beautiful. Here's her with 3 other versions in unprofessional but at least decent recordings
/watch?v=H_SZ7S2MtJA
/watch?v=YQlDO6daZ-k
/watch?v=QfNTXeeeTog
At least the one from Caccini/Vavilov is the best I heard in my life and I've heard many since it's my favorite Ave Maria.
bogdy555ful 2 weeks ago 2
@bogdy555ful These recordings are indeed much better than those of Schubert - the issue there was the sound, but not only, there was also lack of expression, but these are much better. She does sound like a classical singer in these recordings, although her voice sounds lovely in these recordings. It sounds more like very light lyric to me - strong enough for chamber music but not opera. Notice how close she is to the mic.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
That has nothing to do with the mic. Also it's obvious that the Schubert recording has been filtered on input and lost the original sound.
You are relying on logical observation instead of relying on your ear.
She also sang at opera with no microphone but as you know fan-filming is restricted there. Found an audio recording done with the cell phone /watch?v=IKo0Fj8Fx8c
A russian guy also posted a video but his account was closed.
bogdy555ful 2 weeks ago 3
@bogdy555ful I am afraid I don't like the interpretation in your link. It's not terrible, she has a nice voice, but it's too slow, a legato isn't good, etc. Phrasing, not much expression. A singer who'd sing like this at any opera competition will not get far. Also, it's the simplest aria there is in opera, many people sing it who could never sing in opera. In which theater did she sing a complete role in? Her training was in church/lieder not opera.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
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@AubreyanaLoveBoat I agree. Tarja is a tock/metal singer. She may have had classical training, but a) her major was chamber music, not opera b) she's never been anywhere near the top even as a lieder singer. Her recordings of classical pieces are terrible. A lot of people don't realize that the reason they might prefer her is because they are more used to pop sound.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
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@MrNakhrul The term lyrical/spinto only applies to opera singers because it relates to the vocal weight and unamplified singing - in simpler terms a spinto can sing parts with louder orchestra Tarja isn't an opera singer at all, and there isn't a single recording of her singing without a microphone. You cannot judge vocal weight with amplification. Yes, she's had classical training, but her major was chamber music, not opera, very different. Also, this piece requires a coloratura.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
Really? Since when voice classification is made during a performance? Silly me, I thought it's made separately by a comitee and her dedicated teacher :)
BTW there are recordings of her performing in opera without microphones. Sanvolinna when she was around 26 for eg or with Noche Escandinavia.
Lastly: the trademark of a lyrico spinto is the squillo - natural or acquired.
Tarja's was obvious even since she was singing dramatic/mezzo repertoire.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago 2
@MrNakhrul Classification isn't made during the performance, obviously, but it's only makes sense for unamplified singing. A microphone can make any voice sound larger. Tarja performed in chamber music concerts never in opera. Chamber music requires lighter voices than opera. As to squillo - please look it up - it's not specific to spinto, it is needed by lyric voices, it enables them to be heard over an orchestra. Light voices require it e.g. Juan-Diego Florez.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
I don't need to look it up, if you haven't felt it until now - I am talking from experience. Even in professional's world there are hot debates about terms. There is little space here to write a proper argument, but in a few words:
- Opera singers are not superior classical singers and the do NOT have stronger voices. They benefit from the opera hall's acoustics and trained techniques to be heard over the orchestra
.. continuing on next reply..
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul I know about "singer's formant", but it's only part of the story. There is also resonance - the ability to use body cavities for it. There is also natural gift. If all it was was the technique than the size (vocal weight) of the voice wouldn't have mattered, and a light lyric could have sung Brunhilde. In a documentary about Met opera competition, the judges thought her voice was too light for a large theater like the Met, but would do well for Europe.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
- Most common being the "singer's formant". It's not exactly as you find it explained on internet.It's more than a simple extra frequency at 3Kh, but an enriched sound. Too much to explain here.
- Another is the squillo. Again is an extra frequency and again a bit different. If you listen closely, natural squillo has a very specific sound and starts manifesting IN the vibrato. Like a shimmer, a spark. And it's hearable on low volumes also.
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MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul (cont) then there are singers whose voices are fine to project in an art song recital with a piano or small chamber group in a hall built for acoustics, but too small (light) for opera. Also, it isn't just the ability to project which one opera singer called "an athletic feat". It's also the ability to do it in 3-5 hour performance while acting; clear diction, phrasing. Music difficulty - recitatives are often more difficult than arias. Artistry, ability to communicate.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
Funnily, it's best noticed on BAD recordings. It's like, the orchestra and all else sounds like a mess, but the singer's squillo floats over everything like a clinging bell.
- To make the long story short, it's hearable and not very much debatable. Some light singers train something that resembles - but is not eal squillo. Tarja has real squillo, you can hear it sometimes even when she laughs or whatever.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
Lastly, I already wrote this: Taraj did sing at the opera. Not much, because her main career was focused on metal. And excuse my french, milions of diehard NW and Tarja fans are grateful for that.
Nowadays she uses a microphone most of the times, because she sings in open spaces and with amplified instruments.
Not even King Kong can be heard over amplified rock + symphonic instruments.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago 2
@MrNakhrul Tarja sang some arias from operas at Savonlina opera festival, but she's never sung in full operas. She herself said that "singing opera cannot be performed as a side proejct" and that "she would need special training to perfectly sing an entire opera without a microphone". Oh and this piece is for a coloratura, nothing in her singing shows agility. BTW - are you seriously not understand how difficult this is: /watch?v=Q3kzqzXHp2A - in the last act after a lot of singing.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
As a coloratura soprano has agility and high register, the lyrical has deepness and expression or the dramatic has anvergure.
Like opera requires some feats and a set of skills, soul or metal or scat singing require another set of feats and skills.
None is better than the other. Neither the type of singer, or the type of art.
...out of space, obviously...
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul I don't know what anvergure is, and I do agree that each voice type has different timbre and skills, and each genre has merit and gives joy to different groups of people. I am not saying being in a different genre is somehow "below", I am saying that she isn't an opera singer which is a simple statement of genre not good or bad; also that this piece requires an opera singer and specifically a coloratura soprano which Tarja isn't.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess I agree with you completely. I think MrNakhrul is simply a Tarja fan who thinks she can sing anything and doesn't want to face the fact that she can't sing everything...including the fact that she can't sing the Fifth Element combination aria and 'fireworks" display. She has not the voice or the coloratura.
arpeggio1358 2 weeks ago
@arpeggio1358
You what's the problem with idiotic people like you? You are also very vocal.
I repeat for the third time.. maybe that's what takes to be understood by half retarded people:
- My original post (the one above with the many thumb ups) was a reply to someone who said Tarja can't sing it because of her range
My reply said
- This song is postprocessed anyway
- Tarja's range is more than enough for it
The weird direction the discussion took was given by you noobs.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@arpeggio1358
You what's the problem with idiotic people like you? You are also very vocal.
I repeat for the third time.. maybe that's what takes to be understood by half retarded people:
- My original post (the one above with the many thumb ups) was a reply to someone who said Tarja can't sing it because of her range
My reply said
- This song is postprocessed anyway
- Tarja's range is more than enough for it
The weird direction the discussion took was given by you noobs.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
.... So, the one which did not understand (or misunderstood me) is yourself. She is no "opera singer" because she is not hired at the opera. How and when could she - she was a legend of METAL before she was 30 years old.
Is she LESS? That's the real issue here, if you want to speak frankly.
That's the problem - pretentious and "cult" people that consider as low, anything else than their genre.
"Real metalheads", "real opera listeners" and so on.
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MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
... Myself, because i dug deep in various genres (like-performing, not "just listening") consider the style and technique just a means of expression. So did Tarja.
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Imho she is much MORE than most opera/non-opera singers alive today.
She proved it by performing one of the finest metal ever. And then, one of the finest classical .. just for fun maybe, rarely maybe, but proved that she CAN.
Regarding skillful coloratura from her ... research deeper :)
Cheers!
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago 2
@MrNakhrul I am not saying she is a bad singer, just not an opera singer. I don't believe opera is the best genre - maybe I like it most, but I appreciate that other people like other genres. If anything, most opera singers aren't good when they try other genres. There are exception like Malena Ernman - now this is an example of a singer who can sing anything - opera and to highest opera standards and jazz or pop - without sounding like an opera singer. But let's not confuse genres.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
1. This is my last reply here because we are getting way off topic and - with you at least - towards nothing.
2. The "Il mio.." recording you commented on is almost identical with Maria Callas interpretation (opra critics said that at the time, not me). The recording is bad but if your ear keeps hearing differently than anyone else's.. better check your ear.
3. With no exception, on every reply I gave you I barely refrained to insult. You are just too much.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul Funny how you are barely refrained to insult whereas I've always been polite and respectful. As to off topic, I am not the one who brought up the name of another singer who isn't a coloratura and hence couldn't sing this on a video of a famous coloratura. 1. Callas' voice is almost gone in one of her o mio babbino caro recording, but it's very nuanced; and is very different 2. People who don't know opera don't understand the importance of phrasing, legato, artistry.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
One can be polite and yet say words than can cause a war even.
I did not brought anything up, I replied to a comment trashing Tarja.
Your words show that you read about opera and maybe that are interested in opera, but not that you know opera.. by far.
Obvious example being the fact that you repeated same terms in the same order, three times.
Please don't reply to me anymore because I feel obliged to come back and frankly I don't want to.
Cya
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul Actually, your words show lack of knowledge of opera e.g. calling Tarja a spinto yet thinking she can sing a COLORATURA (!) piece. I've been going to opera since I was 6, I've also had voice lessons though as an amateur. And no, I've not tried to start a war, I was just having a polite conversation where parties disagree. Anyway, if you don't want to come back - don't.
jewelmarkess 2 weeks ago
@jewelmarkess
It would be a shame to leave such comment as the last word in the topic.
Anybody can sing anything. That does not mean it does it without straining. Many mezzo's sing lyric pieces, lyric sing coloratura and so on. This piece has coloratura but is not coloratura per se.
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MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul "Anybody can sing anything" - yes, right, maybe transposed and maybe slower and skipping most notes. But not as written. Yes many mezzos can sing coloratura because coloratura indicates agility not range, there is a voice type called "coloratura mezzo soprano" too. Plus, there are also some singers who have some coloratura ability and technique - enough for some arias/roles but not others. This piece does requires coloratura ability. Again, Tarja is NOT a spinto.
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MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
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@jewelmarkess
And I repeat: I suggest you train some logic because you don't get the meaning of simple statements.
My first post was a reply to someone that stated that Tarja cannot interpret this song because of range. My reply was that
- Inva Mula interpreting this song is a lyric coloratura who does not have the skill and range to interpret it herself, without post-processing.
- Tarja is a lyrical spinto with wider range and at least the range would not be a problem for her.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul I agree completely with jewelmarkess who obviously knows a lot about opera.
arpeggio1358 2 weeks ago
@arpeggio1358
Btw you have 2 consecutive posts starting with "I agree with jewelmarkess completely".
My impression you are just a clone account, but if you are not, better take care of that head problem. Or get a master :)
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago 3
@MrNakhrul I assure you I'm not a clone. You, however, are rude and vulgar as witness your posts. Tarja still couldn't sing this. She is a pop singer and also she doesn't have the range. Yes, I know she studied at a conservatory, but that doesn't make her an opera singer.
arpeggio1358 2 weeks ago
@arpeggio1358
I assure you that the number of neurons in your head is equal to the number of times I have said Tarja is an opera singer.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@arpeggio1358
I assure you that the number of neurons in your head is equal to the number of times I have said Tarja is an opera singer.
Opera singer = an employee of an opera house.
Tarja = a classicaly trained singer who sings whatever she wants whenever she wants.
Why would someone who made history (and a fortune) in metal and has millions of die hard fans, go and sign a contract with an opera house.. beats me. She does not even like opera so much btw.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul i never said she would want to sing opera, just that her voice isn't suitable for opera and that she does not have a four octave (usable) range. i also said that she couldn't sing the Fifth Element piece. you are so obsessed with her that you can't view her objectively. Vulgarity and insults are the last refuge for people who have no valid arguments.
arpeggio1358 2 weeks ago
@arpeggio1358
What valid arguments to bring to someone whom I needed to repeat 3 times I did not state something he kept arguing against.
Get the fuck out.
MrNakhrul 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul TARJA IS NEVER BEEN AN OPERA SINGER CAUSE SHE CAN"T SPREAD HER VOICE WITHOUT A MIC OVER AN ORCHESTRA SHE IS AN CLASSICAL SINGER USED IN METAL BUT NOT AN OPERA SINGER NEITHER IS INVA MULA
luukxd123 1 day ago
@luukxd123
Your logic overwhelms me man.
I am not an opera singer NOT because I can't spread my - whatever over whatever else. (I CAN, by the way).
I am not an opera singer.. because I am a programmer, I CHOSE another career.
Same thing with Tarja. She chose lied, metal and other arts - and is doing those perfectly.
There is nothing that she did to show she can NOT cover an orchestra.
Not to mention, people here posted links with Tarja singing opera without a mic.
However - cont -
MrNakhrul 1 day ago
@luukxd123
She did sing occasionally opera, like in opera. That proves that she can.
However, I suggest we even ignore this last fact.
Your logic PER SE is bad.
You say something like: "Ronaldinho cannot ever be a tennis player, because he cannot hit a tennis ball".
Why? Did you ever see him trying and failing?
I truly hope some of you guys are preteens... if not, having such faulty thinking raises some questions.
MrNakhrul 1 day ago
@MrNakhrul wait i Mean real opera and I study music and vocals and i know that her voice is to weak a true opera vocal can spread her voice over an orchestra with more than 50 instruments tarja will be smashed away by an orchestra that does not take away that she can sing majesticly
luukxd123 17 hours ago
@luukxd123
You "study" music amateur-level but think you are able to analize a legend of metal which also has 20-25 years of classical training. PROFESSIONALY. And did 2 conservatories. And - the list is huge -
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You may be hit in the head aside from being deaf. I tell you the third time: not only your ears are bad, but reality contradicts you. Tarja did sing at opera, without microphone.
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So wtf are you talking about.
Get lost you are making my brain bleed.
MrNakhrul 15 hours ago
@luukxd123
By the way, you DO notice everything you say is false. Yesterday evening you posted Tarja and Inva Mula are not opera singers, today I already see multiple people replying that you are wrong.
MrNakhrul 15 hours ago
@luukxd123
Writing in caps does not help when you are wrong :)
Tarja Turunen performed opera and chamber music numerous times.
Inva Mula is a veteran opera singer performing at La Scala in Milano atm.
georg1187 1 day ago
@MrNakhrul Give me a break. Tarja is no spinto. She is not a coloratura. She is purely a pop singer who would never be invited to sing a complete role in a live opera in a legitimate opera house. She is a pop opera singer just like Bocelli, Church, Potts, Watson, Brightman, Jenkins.
arpeggio1358 2 weeks ago
@arpeggio1358
Singers are not invited but they are hired. I have 2 friends (tenors) hired at the state opera and they are nothing special. Just professionals earning their living.
Tarja and Bocelli are in my opinion better artists than anybody singing at the opera today.
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arpeggio1358 2 weeks ago
@TheRicochet4 If you want to say hired then Tarja has never been hired to sing a role in a complete opera in a legitimate opera house and never will. Your friends are no doubt classically trained and can sing without a mic. Bocelli actually sang a recital at the Met (It was purely a money making thing. Don't confuse popularity with greatness.) and he could hardly be heard because there are no mics at the Met.
arpeggio1358 2 weeks ago
@MrNakhrul she has 3.2 or 3.2 octaves Tarja she could just do the song on the edge the thing about tarja she has a full voice this is a crystal clear made one so it would sound not even close, i myself am a countertenor but when you look at my vocals i am actually a colouratura meezo-soprano with a huge range in the studio and a normal range live studio: E2-B6 live: B2-Ab6
luukxd123 1 day ago
@AubreyanaLoveBoat I wouldn't say she sounds like a daying goat, but I agree with you saying that the original one can't be replaced.
fmshazam 1 month ago
My gosh I love her smile at the end :)
MrK2345 1 month ago 8
@MrK2345 Me too)))
zhukovich 1 month ago 2
@zhukovich and me :P
agdame 1 month ago
@MrK2345 o_O
zuuemudz 2 weeks ago
it's amazing!!!
Tarieli99924tkms 1 month ago
AHH!!! amazing!
0mri 1 month ago
Всё х..., давай по-новой)
RRTxVOLK 1 month ago
Inva Mula sang this particular song in this movie and not Maiwenn who played the character. A little google wikipedia goes a long way lol just so you know
djjoelb48 1 month ago
i was wondering WHO actually sang this song for this movie ?
mysteriousmoment 1 month ago
@mysteriousmoment Inva Mula
djjoelb48 1 month ago
asome
TheMLGPro9951 1 month ago
it's very hard to believe that there's no sampler or any other electronic gadgets in the parts like @ 4:24 or 4:27, or 4:34. I do have a very fine ear, and to me those parts sound soo box-sampled - but I'd rather prefer to discover that it's all genuitne voice only!!!
samoht1977 1 month ago
@samoht1977 it is her own voice. its all her, which is amazing
randomerkitty 1 month ago
@randomerkitty Almost .. there are a few notes that are digitized on top of her voice to give it that bizarre feel , it's done in a subtle way, that doesn't take away from her awesomeness though :)
patrickbateman7 1 month ago
@samoht1977 your ear is fine :) and those moments are box sample on top of her voice , it's done in a subtle way so it gives it that " other worldliness " to it
patrickbateman7 1 month ago
не хватает живого голоса? --------- 1000000.....
skifis1900 1 month ago
good thing there's no cuts in videos or fake sound. all that is her voice.
beautifull, also, loved the movie.
KaiNogard 1 month ago
art of singing wowww
bxi7669 1 month ago
Is it just me or does anyone else love the little suit test she does before the whole thing? xD
AsAboveItIsBelow 1 month ago
<3
BraiindeadZombiie 1 month ago
look how she has to move to make the woodwind sound!!!
yankytank09 1 month ago
who was the actress for this i want to know i like her voice
Amuchan1onyx 1 month ago
@Amuchan1onyx The singer is Inva Mula Tchako
XxWeccaxX 1 month ago
Is it just me or does the audio lag?
whiterottenrabbit 1 month ago
@whiterottenrabbit not just you
xamanto 1 month ago
@xamanto I wonder, why it is so... Doesn't the uploader give a shit that he has uploaded an inferior quality video? Or is he just auditorily and visually dull?
whiterottenrabbit 1 month ago
not as epic as the movie obvi but none the less. awesome find.
Michetti80 1 month ago
This would be fascinating to get stoned to
Vaan618 2 months ago 4
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TheMoonlight2887 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
Diva Plavalaguna , performed by Maïwenn Le Besco ( French Actress ) the voice behind her is the Ms Inva Mula ( Albanian opera soprano ) , and "The Diva dance" song is : "" Oh, giusto cielo!...Il dolce suono"" (the mad scene) from Gaetano Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor, just to clear some misslead comments
morganzmo 2 months ago 10
in english please
vindictiveboi 2 months ago
En dvd c'étais bien ,mais le BD est sortit son 7,1 et image Epoustouflant ( chapitre 14 ou 17 ) pour le concert De La Diva A voir et revoir .
c2lion83 2 months ago
allguien sabe o me podria pasar algun link dodne este la partitura dee sta cancion???
Neoutopico 2 months ago
Menos mal que la editaron porque baila para el ocote
iose36c4 2 months ago
Zuado pra caralho!
thiagopetrellio 2 months ago
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TheMoonlight2887 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
just perfect........
tempini1616 2 months ago
Da la impresión de que no sabe muy bien lo que está haciendo. Improvisa demasiado...
Candlemanisim 2 months ago
after 3:50 it rly gets rockin' amazing.
She is awesome and with that godly voice take me into the orbit.
I just love how she sings and giggles at same time :)
DarkRezo 2 months ago
@DarkRezo lol The singing wasn't actually her though.
PanderflyLUV 2 months ago
I Love 4:24 XD
05werewolf 2 months ago 2
Ballin'
SilverSinspawn 2 months ago
Would have been amazing if at 4:45 the lighting guy walked in behind and went "oops sorry..." Then she went off on him like only christian bale could ;)
chubbylilloser 2 months ago
Nowadays theyd have just coverd her in blue paint and used CGI to get that look. I think it works much better with makeup and prosthetics!!
chubbylilloser 2 months ago
The song is cool, I am not even paying attention to the video. Get over it guys, this song rocks.
tcoatmafia666 3 months ago
Would love to see Tarja Turunen sing this song
ibainesy 3 months ago 55
jajaja I wanna sing as the Diva @_@
huijerwa 3 months ago
does anyone know where i can download this song????
i love it, its my favorite part of the whole movie
if anyone does please message me on my channel
ilovemyfroggie 3 months ago
@ilovemyfroggie youtube 2mp3, just google it
kacatriku 3 months ago
@kacatriku oh alrighty then
ilovemyfroggie 3 months ago
damn, I will thought this was filmed on space. xD
pipekans 3 months ago 88
@pipekans iagual yo madicion
MODERATTITO 2 months ago
eXCELLENT!
ClawedMonet12 3 months ago
Noooo, why is the audio off D:
deanie89142 3 months ago
@deanie89142 its not..lol
haleygoeswhoohoo 3 months ago
As much as I love the Diva scene... I hate to say it, but when she starts dancing when the music speeds up, she looks like my nan at a wedding. xD
rexana 3 months ago
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I am glad they edited that! But, I agree with Zerkezhi, It was fun... lol!!
~~Geo~~
geoswimmer1 4 months ago
Good thing they cut it the way they did.
Anyway, fun seeing the 'original'.
Zerkezhi 4 months ago 2
@Zerkezhi
I'm agree with you even I think they seemed cut too much the scene beyond necessary. The edited version is much fit for the subtle, elegant and cold facade for an opera singer, IMHO.
yuetkukoihoje 3 months ago
vitas vs inva
opesenator 4 months ago
@opesenator Individual tastes differ, but the first part of this is an opera aria and Vitas is a pop singer who sings it like a pop song with no understanding of the style of what it's about. He doesn't have the technique to go near it. Inva Mula is an opera singer, one of the top ones, she understands the style of Donizetti, her diction is perfect, she expresses what she sings. She is effortless, her tone is gorgeous. No comparison. Vitas butchers the aria part.
jewelmarkess 4 months ago
oh por dios!! ese baile lo he visto en al menos 20 loquitas de antros poblanos..
jajajajaja...
(notsese que de las 20 una soy yo)
coleturner16 4 months ago
thanks for this, awesome!!
manteuffel123 4 months ago
por la cresta la huea hermosa :3
NecroZoofilica 4 months ago
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4:24 is my favourite! <3 she looks a little like Neve Campbell (: very beautiful.
KayceeSparks 4 months ago
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KayceeSparks 4 months ago
Thank you for uploading this!!! It was marvelous!!!
Thunesite 4 months ago
@Takilla2 where did you find the video of Inva recording? link :)
surfersall 5 months ago
why not- id nail it
flanderingmeandering 5 months ago
the Diva is a beutiful girl ... im gay i feel i little attraction to her XD
k3ngarbage 5 months ago
@k3ngarbage Maybe that's because she have a huge penis on his head
mactap1606 5 months ago
@mactap1606 shes is a beutiful french lady and was chosen by her beuty to be a diva, the one who carry on her body divine stones. at the end there is noting of masculine on her.
k3ngarbage 5 months ago
i kinda wanna take this video and replace the spacy background on it
wangtang32000 5 months ago
What I'd love to see is the video of the real singer, Inva Mula Tchako, recording this.
Takilla2 5 months ago
@Takilla2 Actually, I'd love to see the video of Inva Mula singing the actual full opera aria on opera stage (the first part - the one that comes from opera is only a start of a 20-minute scene). She did the role (Lucia in Lucia di Lammermoor) many times, but there are no videos here available.
jewelmarkess 4 months ago
Beautiful!
GanarfGeorgie 5 months ago
HELM, 108!
elro1822 5 months ago
pwuah hahaha that last dance scene was the only thing i cud have done without, a bit of a mess actually
ReignWillow 5 months ago
That was excellent! I like the choreography as I think it was supposed to be a little off and designed that way.
SuperKing1320 5 months ago
La Danza de la diva me cautivo desde que la vi en la película por primera vez!, siempre quise verla a ella representar toda la pieza de esta magnifica technnopera!
EMUGAMERPC 5 months ago in playlist Vídeos favoritos de EMUGAMERPC
genial que buen gusto¡¡ auditivo
guillermoagustin1 6 months ago
Great chimpanze impression
CCProfound 6 months ago
fabuloso!! excelente!! ke maravilla de videoo!! bravo!!
asziiathicko0 6 months ago