► SHOUTcraft - SCi4 - RO8 : Stephano vs NightEnD G3

[zsreich]

he should have gone either archon toilet or try for mass carrier. That army composition just dies to that many broodlords!

[Th4w]

@zsreich

The time that stephano took the brood lords out was much later then the time where nightend went with the stalker/zealot/colossus build and it was just too late game to transition to mass carrier.

Not a pro SC2 player, so correct me if I'm wrong.

[zsreich]

@Th4w

Your right about that. Mass carrier takes a long time to build and is very expensive. You basically have to hope your opponent will be defensive and start teching about the time you get your third expo. Your army will be much weaker during that time and if your opponent scouts and attacks you lose. So its a gamble. You also don't want to reveal your plan too early or you lose. However, in that game the protoss had time to tech into carrier or mship since the zerg was defensive.

[Th4w]

@zsreich

So that's "Cheese" right? Having a strategy that is very effective against your opponent but if it gets discovered they can counter it immediately and can result to a loss.

However you never know when your opponent will strike/scout. And the more it takes for him to attack the higher is the chance for him to attack right away. This way pressure starts to build up and can result into micro fuckups. I'd consider it WAY too risky. I normally like playing safe.

[zsreich]

@Th4w exactly, I consider cheese to be a high risk, high reward type strategy. Whether that is underhanded or silly or not is a matter of opinion. But as for myself I generally follow a more safe and reactionary playstyle. But I'm not very good anyways :P

[Th4w]

@zsreich

I always like to play safe except that I always 1 gate expand, since they never attack that early. Any sort of harassment can be dealt with the zealot, which if I were to play against a real opponent would chrono out before the nexus. I'd really love to play against you but 1st I can barely beat the hard AI (It's really the beginning that's hard, they tend to rush a lot and are afterwards left with no defense) and I'm also using pirate SC2. Can't afford 60$ for MP ;(

[DatRoamingGnome]

I kept thinking this map was called Tal'Darim Ulti (short for ultimate, or something). The more I heard it, the more I thought that it could be something lore-related (like Tal'Darim Altah/Alltuh/Alti/Ultuh). Then I remembered wondering why queens would ever consider injecting lava into their hives...until I watched another caster and understood my mistake. British people must fear the letter "r." There is no other possible explanation.

[8DX]

@DatRoamingGnome Uh, "British" is not an accent. Scotts pronounce trailing r's. Certain English accents don't. Some US accents don't. It's called rhotic and non-rhotic accents and the trick is that non-rhotic accents only pronounce r's within a word or if the next word starts with a vowel-sound. It helps to get around =)

[DatRoamingGnome]

@8DX You seem upset.

[8DX]

@DatRoamingGnome Naaaaaaah, it's all good ^.^

[ALLGAM3R]

Build ALL teh things!

[FlipJanson]

ive always kinda wondered why no protoss counter broodlords with their own carriers, same deal but they get air AND ground. win win? :/

[DemonKing671]

@FlipJanson VS. corrupters there squshy, so long as they don't have an air counter you plan would go fine. Carriers are really weard because use them wrong and there like ultralisks they become useless.

[Drenizer]

Mebe 5:54

Build all the things! 9:20

[starkiller187]

Nightend is scared of motherships now. :P

[impmon12345]

I found it a bit surprising stephano didn't do the spine cancel trick to get over the supply cap just for lulz

[chambeyc]

Actually I think too carriers could have been good here.

[doive24]

Archon Toilet. Flushing the danger away.

[khrrck967]

i was playing starcraft, but then I took an uppercut to the gin

[night4345]

i love broodlings

[CheezWizification]

Love stephano. Great player!

[kevzy18]

lv watchin stephano games, always fun to watch, a lot of map control and bad muta control lol :)

[HugoFoxHH]

DAM you protoss why not using the power of carries ???????

[TrojaSucks]

wow nightend is such a nice guy :)

[MrKain26]

so...  umm since broodlords summon broodlings... why not macro game at first then cheese and make broodlords.... make like 50 broodlords.... I dont play the game itself but that idea seems odd enough to throw even pros for a loop. that was only 16 broodlords and 15 infestors.....

[Yavin1v]

@MrKain26 tried that vs a terran, broodlords are so slow that the terran had time to build quite a few vikings :s

[streaker327]

@MrKain26 What if the other player scouts and see ur teching to brood lords then attack you early on.... or even if they massed air units because broodlords cant attack air units...

[night4345]

@streaker327 you can just not morph all your corruptors

[The5thSaints]

@streaker327 if they go pheonix or void you should have scouted it so you wouldn't go brood lords anyway you would go roach hydra ball with corruptors

[IanMacEoin]

Why oh WHY does he keep the camera focussed on a protoss army thats just sitting there while an expansion gets made? Nothings happening there. Apollos talking about all the upgrades but he sits the camera at the most boring place. Not fun to watch

[Nexuz667]

i feel like ive seen this befor

[UnitRico]

Oh man, games like these remind me I have to get back into this game.

[TheBraaains]

Its raining broodlings!

[InstaPickles]

What are you doing down here? There are spoilers here!

[reflex701]

i was good at starcraft till i took an broodling to the knee

[bioncleboy1999]

Moo

[bioncleboy1999]

Moo

[HolyWarcraft]

Go Stephano!

[DeltaDoggy]

Game starts 1:38

[MrTaskis]

Fifth <3 this

[DeltaDoggy]

One finishes, another begins. Awesome.

[TheStickyfingers88]

Love it tb. Keep up the good games.

[withpaws]

@simster97 yes, its because we're haters that we all look at you like your a dumbass for saying your the first one to post...

[simster97]

First.

Haters gonna hate.