The Normans were different from the French. The Norman language itself is vastly different from the French language. In fact 200 years ago the modern day French language was only spoken by 5% of the population and regional languages dominated. If you compare the English language to the UK regional languages then it's pretty easy to tell the difference. The same can be said for France where today's standard language is vastly different from Norman and Breton.
Ugh... ok i'm English and I know that England and the English are extremley multicutural because they were created with parts of lots of different cultures (Saxon, Viking, French and Roman) and I don't get why alot of the English people say shit like "Damn Immigrants" because really every single English person has dirived from somewhere else in the world not the British Ilse, if any one person has the remotest claim to being the natives of Britain it's the Scots who come from the Celts.
The anglo-saxons that fought against William were also from Denmark and claimed to be proud of the anglo-saxon roots yet they ruled England. When the Normans conquered England they didn't just throw out old Saxon-English and the people with it. Just accept that England is England because it was created by many different tribes and was united by French-English speakers.
Yeah, normans were french. I mean, they achieved it by sacking constantly the north of France and making the french king so scared that he had to concieve a title to their leader.
And of course, normans kept their respect for the french heritage while building themselfes a kingdom that a little later would once again make the frenchs crap their pants.
Bernter you're fucking retarded mate. How the hell did we only come out to fight at those wars when we had the biggest empire ever?! Your country has and always will be shit. You never fought in ww1 or 2 and you never had an empire. Your countries so worthless i'd even accept more of an insult off a frenchman for fuck sake!
ha! the famous viking gange-rolv or rollon are the man who went to normandie.
its called normandie from norway the part of the viking land he came from.
the normanners are "vikings" and rollons grand grand grand child is harald who married elisabeth and therefore norway shoud be the owner of normandie and parts of britain!
@MateusVIII u guys only came out to fight in ww1/2 and in the end of napoleons war when you realised you where sure you had almost won the war.
the vikings/norse/skandinavians have been fighting everyone and the only places we lost battles where russia and england. but i speak no bad about enland and englishmen, i love england its my favorite country after the scandinavians :) you are alot like us.
@BERNTRR well, i am not english but i love England too, but England didn't came out only on the end of napoleonic wars they fhought all the peninsular campaing and their navy was always atacking the french
@BERNTRR ehhh no... WE where fully able to destroy you if we wanted in the napoleonic war we had the biggest navy on earth but you sabotaged us before we even went to war becouse you thought we woud help napoleon and since you did that we did. but instead of counter attacking you we met some problems with sweden... even today you coud not easy take us. at least not with your position and our coast. and why shoud england be so good when all they done is defending themself and barely made it?
This game focus to much on the british isles. They just don't have one sort of rebel they have 3 (welsh,scottish,english when there are only 1 in scandinavia nd that's norse, they have even put norse in finland which is totally wrong), two factions Scotland,England 8 and (Both has many units that only they have like highlanders,sherwood archers whil France and HRE have almost exactly the same units). There also extremly many provinces there whil in Scandinavia it's just 3 and 1 single kindom
@dinmamma3234 theres a mod that expand the map, I eprsonally prefer the map mod, it added malta isle, the problem they removed jedda and one of the village ahs bug that cant be built into city only to fort, coz iy has wooden wall built on the village, also somehow the mod removed the banner
there's a great mod called 'Kingdoms Grand Campaign Mod', it adds many more factions all around Europe and the Holy Land, including Wales, Norway and Ireland, you should check it out.
Long live the two most beautiful countries, which are being ravaged by the immigration of different people and Islam. long live the European culture and its beautiful people.
Never again war between brothers, the past nearly destroys us, it's a little late but still we can save.
The king of the dynasty of Norman England Norman and nobility, will be vassals of the French king in the duchy of Normandy. The Anglo and Saxon, are vassals of the Norman king. The Normans often prefer to be in France than in England. Then the Angevin or Plantagenet (as King Richard the Lionheart), a French dynasty also govern in England. Practically most of the English symbols come from the Kingdom of France. Such as lions, crosses, slogans, etc.
The Normans in England, were a class that did not mix with Anglo Saxons, only after some centuries mingled.The Normans spoke French language, through the centuries the French and Anglo language came together and formed the English.
should be noted that the Duke William, was entirely of people from various french duchies or counties. Such as Brittany, Flanders, Maine, Picardy, etc. About half were from the Duchy of Normandy. The Bayeux Tapestry says something like "Franci" defeat "Angli"
I have a little blood of the Norman nobility. I am a descendant of people who fought at Hastings. The Normans were a mixture of Scandinavian blood with people of the kingdom of France. The Norman nobility was related to the nobility of other French duchies, a mixture of blood. Normandy, was a French duchy because his people were vassal of the French King, spoke French with nordic influence of vocabulary, adopted Christianity, took French war strategies, customs, etc
French think THEY conquered England only because that's the truth !!! HAHAH. Let's see : Normands first moved to France from denmark and Norway, that was in the middle of the 800's, more than 200 years later, many things had changed, Normands spoke only french, were vassals of the King of France, and felt totally french. Normandie had become a duchy of France.
Due to their misplaced pride, English people just can't accept the evidence !! You were a french colony before turning upside down. ;-)
@townsley2 WRONG. William The Conquerer detested the French, calling England a Norman Country rather than a French Country. And they were still Danish and Norwegian, and their French was modified.
"The small groups of Vikings that settled there adopted the language, religion and culture of the French majority. After a generation or two, the Normans were indistinguishable from the French".
Encyclopaedia Britannica.
So, Of course England was a Norman conquest. but normans were french... as french as the britons, parisians, picards warriors that came along with them.
and here's an other quote for you, it's from one the finest british historian : lord Macaulay
"During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
@townsley2 Quoted from Wikipedia (I know, I know, it's not exactly the best source):
"The Normans were the people who gave their name to Normandy, a region in northern France. They were descended from Norse Viking conquerors of the territory and the population of the Frankish and Gallo-Romans. Their identity emerged initially in the first half of the 10th century, and gradually evolved over succeeding centuries"
Also, their name means North Men. Also, William the Conquerer detested the French.
You're not taking the issue forward. And indeed, I would rather believe Encyclopedia Britannica and some of the finest british historian than Wikipedia. That said, both your quote and mine are not discordant though. William had fight with the french crown (which at that time meant only Paris & suburbs). He also had regular fights with britons and other french duchies. but all of those men had one thing in commun : there were Frankish ! and fought together against the english.
@townsley2 Silly goose they ain't Frankish there Norman Different blood lines, architecture, and language you should talk to Norman person its very enlightening.
Mouhaha ! I loooove when american come and try to explain things they're the least skilled in. What a cheeky attitude. I'm living 30 miles from Normandie u moron, I'm going there every 10 days and HALF OF MY FRIENDS ARE NORMAN!!! Have u ever been outside the US ? I'm not sure.
I'm telling you, ignorant pretentious fool, that Norman feel 130% french as their 1000 yrs ancestor felt frankish. Encycloeadia Britannica says it, english Historians say it and that old famous norman tapestry in Bayeux says it : it descibes the invasion of England and Normans call themselves "Francii"! should I translate? They had french architecture: ROMAN! french religion : CHRISTIAN, and french language: OIL! end of the story. No history lessons needed from Hollywood, thanks
As for ur "france did not even exist " stupid lign, please take note that the word "France" is used since the 3rd century AD. It meant the country of the Franks. Although there's not a precise date to its birth, as a christian country, France was considered existing since 481 AD, when Clovis Ist became the first french christian king and united all the former frankish kingdoms settled in the actual location of France.
@townsley2 It was called Neustria and Clovis was born in Flanders, and also Normans weren't Franks They were Normans now there Franks ever sense they got conquered by the Franks in the 1300's try talking to a person from Normandy they still believe they are Normans not French.
Wars have been fought, many won and some lost. Anyway, I can assure you France remains a fully respected nation since it won more wars than any country ever ! although a bunch of scornful and unaware roastbeefs still take as a duty to spit on it...
@Dogmeat1950 its horrible. I has no culture other than materialism. I plan on going to the land of my ancestors and leaving this shithole. I hate America, and hae never felt connected to it. I wish I was born in England or Ireland where ym ancestors came from.
@Hakkaballe The main army was yes, many stayed there and created a 'living space' and farm lands. It would be interesting if there was any way to find out if one is descended from Normans. I have many Norman surnames but I doubt Im related to any, Im probably Anglo-Saxon/Irish Gael mostly.
I wish you could play as the saxons, I would love to have used the housecarls in this battle and would have kicked Norman ass! anglo-saxons all the way! if your looking for a cool mod where you can play as the normans, saxons, vikings and cetls check out 'the last kingdom' mod, its more centered around anglo-saxon england but there are many factions to play as. check it out, the guys making it are putting alot of work into it, looks really good. google it.
Have a good mix of units, calvary, archers, and spear units. You dont get sword men for awhile, you should probably hold off on fighting your enemy until you research or update your army so your spearmen, archers have chainmail. the more armor and better weapons could result in your army having better chances of winning battles. rebel factions dont always have good equipment and that is your advantage over them.
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Well, SORRY! I'm not very good in English/British or whatever history, because I'm American! Plus, I really am fat, and I find those comments Prejudice and Insulting. WE WON THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, BUDDY, GET OVER IT!
England is good, I find them too easy to use. I use the holy roman empire, but they are hard because you have enemies on all sides. You hear about the new mod? you will get to play as the saxons of wessex, danes from the danelaw, normans, icelanders, ireland, norway, denmark [who own the danelaw], francia [eastern half only though]. Im siked about it, its my favorite period in english history, and viking history. I dont know who to play as first.
@turdpolish704 Britannia was and still is the name of the island. The U.K mainland is Great Britain. The name of our nation is the United Kingdom as it includes Northern Ireland, the channel isles and various colonies here and there along with the three countries of Britain. The Romans didn't have a name for this country as it was absorbed into their empire making Britannia a province of Rome. Britain isn't now, nor has it ever been a nation.
Harold=last King of Saxon England. I dont think any of the people had the right to claim the throne, but Harold wasm orel iked than the Norman or Norwegian who were more power hungry. Harold was voted into Power where as the toehr too felt England belonged to them and created fuedalism, which resulted in many people losing their 'free' status. Edward the confessor told both kings they could have England, he was probably senial.
Not rightful, he wasnt voted in by the wittan, which were a council, or the first free peoples asembly. William was not eve elected. You might have to dive deeper into it, the Normans somewhat ruined England, but did bring in many advancements. I dont fnd them to be of the best rulers, they were very very greedy and treated the peasantry horribly. The A/S kings were the opposite. The Normans I believe created many problems in the British Islands with their greed.
IIRC which I believe I do. Harolds father promised William the thrown for saving his life. When he died his son took it and refused William of the throne that he had by right.
Call me an old fashioned Englishman. But if I'm King and give you my word that you will inherit my throne. Then when I die (presuming it is not a result of you) you are the rightful King. Not my son. Not some random bloke some pencil pushers like. You.
Have you ever read up on Anglo-Saxon England? Look up the Wittan, thats when a council of the anglo-saxon chieftons would vote or descide about descisions on the fate of their country or any other important matters. In 1066, alot was goin on, which anyone can notice looking at the evidence. William was promised the throne by Edward the Confessor, Edward also promised Harold GODWINSON, who was not his son. Harold was elected to be the next king by the indigenous English, not Normans.
Hahaha! Too much shit in there! My numbers are fakes? Your brain is fake my dear. I see that you met an other brain-washed guy SaxonYear, you're forming a great freak show together.
Look up your facts, you said that 16 danish had died when denmark was invaded by the nazis, 36 died. You said that they were cowards, look up your facts again lad, dk had signed a non-aggression pact with the german, who is the coward now?
the alemmani actually stayed in southern germany, you see in spanish alemania or kingdom of the alemmani means germany, the visigoths fled to spain and southern france but when the franks conquered that are they fled to spain, only very few stayed behind, as for the french king, the king almost never left paris because the countryside was run by "robber barons" and powerful dukes it wasnt till the 100 years war that france united to try and stop the english {norman/saxon] advance,didnt work out.
by the way the flemish might have been vassals of the french but they werent french, the flemish are of germanic not french ancestrey so what u say is a lie.
Well you know, the locals did not do alot to help the allied troops, I remember a French woman whose family was setttled in Normandy say to me that the Germans did, every morning, her breakfast for her mum! But she never dared to talk to them.
The Normans were in France since 200 years, spoke French, were mixed with the Franks, were faithful to the King of France and considered themselves as "French" when they invaded England.
They were French, accepts it.
And an important part of the William's (Guillaume) army were French, ("true" French).
The normans only mixed with the people of Brittany and Flanders, these kingdoms were not french duchies of other kind at the time.
The french knights wich composed William's army were mercenaries given to william and buyed out by the pope himself, the king of france had very bad relations with william.
By the way, William's first battle was fought against the french.
Of course there were some Picards, Beaucerons, Angevins, Poitevins etc.. incorporated in the Frankish army, the Flemish army, the Breton army and the Norman army.
ur wrong,williams army was 7500 men strong as such:
3000 normans [not french]
2500 flemish [from flanders not france] aka dutch once again not french
2000 were french ok
plus some other soldiers from several other fifdoms in total only 2000 were french less than 1/3 of his army. williams verey name proves he did not consider himself french WILLIAM FROM THE GERMAN WILHELM.
Nicely spoken mate, I already had a row with him earlier, he only gives fake numbers.
And I forgot to say that france was regarded as a feodal country Raven, do not forget that each duchies were independant, and people did not mix at the time matey. People started to give mixed ascendance during the late 1300s at that time normandy belonged to the french, and the real normans had all fled to england.
That may be, but they did mix in with the native population living in Normandy at the time. That wasn't my point. My point was that despite William's best efforts, as well as his descendants, Harold Godwinson's line is the current monarchy of the UK. Look up their genealogy. Harold is their DIRECT ancestor.
I beg to differ, the Normans and Anglo-Saxon royalty is no longer. Infact the current are Windsors who are not at all even English, they are German. I would tend to think they may have alot of Welsh ancestory too. So maybe King Arthur's people? hahah Godwinsons and all other Anglo-Saxon royalty were expelled from England after the Norman invasion. The Normans too later became extinct. Geneticists cant even find them in Britian or Ireland today, its as if they never came over.
@JesusFuckingChristt Well, in all honesty, Normandy is a French province, and the Normans are from Normandy. Thus technically from France. Since William the Conqueror (a.k.a the Bastard) was a Normal king, he is technically French as well. That being said, he was not called the "Conqueror" for nothing, as seen in the cinematic (which was nicely done by CA might I add) he invaded and conquered modern-day England. So yes, technically the french conquered England. It's not sad. Just a fact.
@ChivKnight Actually you are incorrect Normandy was a nation in what is present-day France but at the time France was split. You have to release that land was previously Celtic until Charlemagne went to the Germanic states and formed the Holy Roman Empire. But yes CA did do a very good intro and made sure the Normans didn't have french heraldry.
@ChivKnight No the Normandy people were not French they were Scandanavian, back then Normandy was not part of France, it was a kingdom of it's own. The English people won a cultural victory over the Normans there after, which is why English people are called English and not Norman.
@Dandramere The normans were only there in normandy for afew generations, and it was a small area fo land so many started to leave, and invade england, ireland and scotland, for more land and power. They were very powerful for their time and such a small bunch which is great but they were a corrupted people.
@ChivKnight The Normans were Danes mostly, however Hrolf the first Norman ruler was Norwegian and almost became the Earl of Orkney in northern Scotland. However that never happened, and he was banned from Norway along with his viking army so they sacked Paris and the French king allowed them to live and have Normandy if the Normans [Northmen] paid alliegence to the French king and fought for them. The Normans were not French and were never considered French by the Franks in those days.
@JesusFuckingChristt 2 things for you 1.the normans will be angry ya said that 2. normans where french and why didnt those fucking scots come help out
The British think THEY won Waterloo... Not sad maybe?
(18% British, 82% Germans, Prussians, Dutch...)
The Normands with Scandinavian origins were a minority, the English think that Normandy was a no man's land area before the Viking invasion? Mostly of them were french, or mixed. It was not a Kingdom but a duchy dependant of the Kingdom of France.
And they were French knights from all the kingdoms at Hastings, not only from Normandy...
hahaha. its so funny how fench people take credit for victories not their own. first cardinal rule of french warfare, if u cant win a victory, take someone elses. according to you napoleans victories were not french because he was genoese [italian] and a good portion of his army was from germany [prussia],poland and the many germanic duchies.
Your country has been generalized, you think that todays' ALsacian people are from alemannic ascendance: WRONG,the alemannis fled to italy and even reached the Byzantine empire.
Actual Norman people are from Viking descent: WRONG, the viking normans all fled to england.
People from the Pyrenees are from wisigoths descent: WRONG, they all fled to Spain.
If france would be that diversified as you claim it so, it would've been a federal state.
The French WERE diversified sir, but that ended after the Hundred Years War as it layed the path to a unique centralized national identity.
Much of French prestige was lost because of the adoption of centralism, but what most french people forget is that France was a very flawed notion before the Hundred Year's War (eg. the term of 'Frank' was used to qualify Western Euros at the time and made little distinction between the French and the Germans)
This prestige was Charlemagne's Imperial heritage, and this prestige was what made France so attractive during the Middle Ages, The English nobility itself didn't speak 'french' but 'anglo-norman' which is only a variant of french. This prestige is nowadays still carried by....the English ('England' itself is a somehow flawed notion: people often use 'England' to describe Great britain or sometimes the British Isles but never England).
There's also something quite interesting when observing how much the french flag changed throughout history: blue and red being the colors of Paris, the French Republican flag was in itself the unremittable proof of Parisian domination on her former realm, for Nationalism and democracy are nothing but a veneration of the folk which symbolizes in itself a result of the effects of Monarchy and Catholicism on the country.
Then you have yet another result proving how damaging the republic has been for France: the restauration flag was a white flag: no fleur-de-lys, nothing. In other words, France has spread Xstianity and gained prestige by doing so but quickly erased it with the creation of a national identity (100 Yrs War) and then finished it off by attempting to spread her own dogma throughout Europe (Napoleonic Wars) and in which England was left untouched and thus kept medieval prestige.
You know the christians had the use to call every people who settled on the european continent (not the british isles-even if they are part of europe)'franks'.
And that applied to every people from the ex-Carolingian empire's lands.
But Charles knew it wouldn't be enough for Rollo, so he proposed him to become his vassal, as a pledge of loyalty to the occidental frankish king, Rollo changed his name to the christian name of Robert.
And Robert became Duke of Normandy, and Normandy was influenced by his neighbour as a result.
Normandy was given to the Normans by carolingian king Charles the simple, after the invasion of Paris, france couldn't pay the ransom to the Vikings. If they would've payed they would've came back with a bigger army anyway. So he decided to give some land (Normandy) to Rollo the Norwegian.
this guy is just fucked up! Do you really think that the Normands (with a D, please!) didn't speak French when Guillaume (William) invaded England??? Do you really think he was a kind of...Viking??? lol! Please take some other informations at "bibliotheque nationale de normandie" at Rouen if you really wants to know the real history about that!
The Normans spoke a romane-like language mixed with some Norse words.
And if you want to know why words like parliament given to by 'parlement' in french.
It's just because it's founder, Simon De Montfort was an Anglo-French knight, whose son, Simon DeMontfort II, will be the leader of the baron's revolt, who was also crushed at Evesham.
If a chinese speaks fluently and perfectly french, does that make him a frenchman, francophonic yes, francophile perhaps.
But not french.
I'd rather appreciate you guys speak of Viking Normans and not French Normansinstead , romane(french language at the time) was only spoken by peasants, the highier class usually spoke latin, UNTIL king FrancisI made it the official language.
okay listen. THE ANGLO SAXONS, of anlge and german descent (saxony) CAME TO ENGLAND AND STAYED THEIR AFTER THE CELTIC (VIKING DESCENT). {{germanic also has scandinavian in it btw}} the NORMANS CAME SPEAKING A FRENCH DIALECT. THE ANGLO-SAXON/VIKING DIALECT MIXED WITH THE FRENCH NORMAN
CREATING ANGLISH OR ENGLAND AND CREATING ENGLAND. (ANGLAND) or sumthin like that. haha
and DUUUUUUUUUUUUH THEY GONNA SPEAK ENGLISH. why make dumb subtitles in the ONLY cinematic in the game??? THATS retarded
Because it was a different kind of french, you dumbshits. The French spoken in 1066 was very very different to the French spoken in modern times. Having William speak modern French would be just as retarded as having him speak with an RP British accent.
Because it was a different kind of french, you dumbshits. The French spoken in 1066 was very very different to the French spoken in modern times. Having William speak modern French would be just as retarded as having him speak with an RP British accent.
I love the cut scenes, but just saying at the battle of hastings, 1066, william rufus, william the conquerers son was never at the battle, he was at normandy.
The Normans were different from the French. The Norman language itself is vastly different from the French language. In fact 200 years ago the modern day French language was only spoken by 5% of the population and regional languages dominated. If you compare the English language to the UK regional languages then it's pretty easy to tell the difference. The same can be said for France where today's standard language is vastly different from Norman and Breton.
fdmarminy 3 weeks ago
Wasnt williams son Henry? (irl not the game)
RoyalPrussian 1 month ago
who's culture has survived through many invasions of the British Ilse and many shifts in power.
basmalord3252 2 months ago
Ugh... ok i'm English and I know that England and the English are extremley multicutural because they were created with parts of lots of different cultures (Saxon, Viking, French and Roman) and I don't get why alot of the English people say shit like "Damn Immigrants" because really every single English person has dirived from somewhere else in the world not the British Ilse, if any one person has the remotest claim to being the natives of Britain it's the Scots who come from the Celts.
basmalord3252 2 months ago
The anglo-saxons that fought against William were also from Denmark and claimed to be proud of the anglo-saxon roots yet they ruled England. When the Normans conquered England they didn't just throw out old Saxon-English and the people with it. Just accept that England is England because it was created by many different tribes and was united by French-English speakers.
SlaytanicYisrael 2 months ago
Yeah, normans were french. I mean, they achieved it by sacking constantly the north of France and making the french king so scared that he had to concieve a title to their leader.
And of course, normans kept their respect for the french heritage while building themselfes a kingdom that a little later would once again make the frenchs crap their pants.
magusdark 2 months ago
945 years ago today, William beat the tutorial :). God bless England, and God bless all of Britain!
Andrewmation855 3 months ago
William Rufus was only 10 years old at the time of Hastings...
TheWorkmonkey1 3 months ago
Well, england is still saxon kind of.
razzledazzlerob 4 months ago
Bernter you're fucking retarded mate. How the hell did we only come out to fight at those wars when we had the biggest empire ever?! Your country has and always will be shit. You never fought in ww1 or 2 and you never had an empire. Your countries so worthless i'd even accept more of an insult off a frenchman for fuck sake!
iainp18 4 months ago
Meh... again arguments France vs England.
Let me put some facts.
-60 % of modern english is based on French
-A big part of the old english culture has been influenced by the norman/french influence until the begining of the 1500's.
-England did not always lost against France, we could even say the inverse sometimes.
-English are English.
-England is a mixt of many cultures trough the ages, making it one of the most beautiful european countries.
-They got a rich military hitsory.
Nice vid.
iloveeverything219 5 months ago
my ancestor Sir Hugh Corbet "son of the raven" participated greatly in the norman conquest of england
legomyeggo713 7 months ago
@legomyeggo713 Same here!
GeamProducts 2 months ago
I proud to be a Norman !
Northmannia1066TV 7 months ago
@Northmannia1066TV hell ya Normans FTW -jesse corbett
legomyeggo713 7 months ago
ha! the famous viking gange-rolv or rollon are the man who went to normandie.
its called normandie from norway the part of the viking land he came from.
the normanners are "vikings" and rollons grand grand grand child is harald who married elisabeth and therefore norway shoud be the owner of normandie and parts of britain!
BERNTRR 8 months ago
@BERNTRR britain should own all those lands, since now, they could beat norway with their eyes closed
MateusVIII 8 months ago
@MateusVIII u guys only came out to fight in ww1/2 and in the end of napoleons war when you realised you where sure you had almost won the war.
the vikings/norse/skandinavians have been fighting everyone and the only places we lost battles where russia and england. but i speak no bad about enland and englishmen, i love england its my favorite country after the scandinavians :) you are alot like us.
BERNTRR 7 months ago
@BERNTRR well, i am not english but i love England too, but England didn't came out only on the end of napoleonic wars they fhought all the peninsular campaing and their navy was always atacking the french
MateusVIII 7 months ago
@MateusVIII oh yeah i forgot sry XC
BERNTRR 7 months ago
@BERNTRR ehhh no... WE where fully able to destroy you if we wanted in the napoleonic war we had the biggest navy on earth but you sabotaged us before we even went to war becouse you thought we woud help napoleon and since you did that we did. but instead of counter attacking you we met some problems with sweden... even today you coud not easy take us. at least not with your position and our coast. and why shoud england be so good when all they done is defending themself and barely made it?
BERNTRR 7 months ago
This game focus to much on the british isles. They just don't have one sort of rebel they have 3 (welsh,scottish,english when there are only 1 in scandinavia nd that's norse, they have even put norse in finland which is totally wrong), two factions Scotland,England 8 and (Both has many units that only they have like highlanders,sherwood archers whil France and HRE have almost exactly the same units). There also extremly many provinces there whil in Scandinavia it's just 3 and 1 single kindom
dinmamma3234 1 year ago
@dinmamma3234 theres a mod that expand the map, I eprsonally prefer the map mod, it added malta isle, the problem they removed jedda and one of the village ahs bug that cant be built into city only to fort, coz iy has wooden wall built on the village, also somehow the mod removed the banner
Arrakhis 1 year ago
@dinmamma3234
there's a great mod called 'Kingdoms Grand Campaign Mod', it adds many more factions all around Europe and the Holy Land, including Wales, Norway and Ireland, you should check it out.
HelmutVillam 1 year ago
this video is from the toturial
MrTotalwar1 1 year ago
I wish you could be the Saxons in the campaign :/
I think the Brittania expansion should have been the Norman/Viking invasion of the British Isles, that would have been much more fun for me. :P
SkinT97 1 year ago
@Protojoe912 and well all be german
clonehero1 1 year ago
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Ordensritter1 1 year ago
I belive that without Harald Hardrada, William wouldnt have won
Musikkingofthecookie 1 year ago
Is it me, or is this cinematic the only one that's pre-rendered and not made from gameplay.
TheInfamousGravy 1 year ago
Long live the two most beautiful countries, which are being ravaged by the immigration of different people and Islam. long live the European culture and its beautiful people.
Never again war between brothers, the past nearly destroys us, it's a little late but still we can save.
LaSombraFantasma 1 year ago
The king of the dynasty of Norman England Norman and nobility, will be vassals of the French king in the duchy of Normandy. The Anglo and Saxon, are vassals of the Norman king. The Normans often prefer to be in France than in England. Then the Angevin or Plantagenet (as King Richard the Lionheart), a French dynasty also govern in England. Practically most of the English symbols come from the Kingdom of France. Such as lions, crosses, slogans, etc.
LaSombraFantasma 1 year ago
The Normans in England, were a class that did not mix with Anglo Saxons, only after some centuries mingled.The Normans spoke French language, through the centuries the French and Anglo language came together and formed the English.
should be noted that the Duke William, was entirely of people from various french duchies or counties. Such as Brittany, Flanders, Maine, Picardy, etc. About half were from the Duchy of Normandy. The Bayeux Tapestry says something like "Franci" defeat "Angli"
LaSombraFantasma 1 year ago
I have a little blood of the Norman nobility. I am a descendant of people who fought at Hastings. The Normans were a mixture of Scandinavian blood with people of the kingdom of France. The Norman nobility was related to the nobility of other French duchies, a mixture of blood. Normandy, was a French duchy because his people were vassal of the French King, spoke French with nordic influence of vocabulary, adopted Christianity, took French war strategies, customs, etc
LaSombraFantasma 1 year ago
French think THEY conquered England only because that's the truth !!! HAHAH. Let's see : Normands first moved to France from denmark and Norway, that was in the middle of the 800's, more than 200 years later, many things had changed, Normands spoke only french, were vassals of the King of France, and felt totally french. Normandie had become a duchy of France.
Due to their misplaced pride, English people just can't accept the evidence !! You were a french colony before turning upside down. ;-)
townsley2 1 year ago 9
@townsley2 WRONG. William The Conquerer detested the French, calling England a Norman Country rather than a French Country. And they were still Danish and Norwegian, and their French was modified.
GeamProducts 2 months ago
@GeamProducts
"The small groups of Vikings that settled there adopted the language, religion and culture of the French majority. After a generation or two, the Normans were indistinguishable from the French".
Encyclopaedia Britannica.
So, Of course England was a Norman conquest. but normans were french... as french as the britons, parisians, picards warriors that came along with them.
townsley2 2 months ago
and here's an other quote for you, it's from one the finest british historian : lord Macaulay
"During the century and a half after the Conquest, there is no English history. The French Kings of England rose to an eminence which was the wonder of all nations".
Thomas Babington Macauley
townsley2 2 months ago
@townsley2 Quoted from Wikipedia (I know, I know, it's not exactly the best source):
"The Normans were the people who gave their name to Normandy, a region in northern France. They were descended from Norse Viking conquerors of the territory and the population of the Frankish and Gallo-Romans. Their identity emerged initially in the first half of the 10th century, and gradually evolved over succeeding centuries"
Also, their name means North Men. Also, William the Conquerer detested the French.
GeamProducts 2 months ago
@GeamProducts
You're not taking the issue forward. And indeed, I would rather believe Encyclopedia Britannica and some of the finest british historian than Wikipedia. That said, both your quote and mine are not discordant though. William had fight with the french crown (which at that time meant only Paris & suburbs). He also had regular fights with britons and other french duchies. but all of those men had one thing in commun : there were Frankish ! and fought together against the english.
townsley2 2 months ago
@townsley2 Silly goose they ain't Frankish there Norman Different blood lines, architecture, and language you should talk to Norman person its very enlightening.
legomyeggo713 2 months ago
@legomyeggo713
Mouhaha ! I loooove when american come and try to explain things they're the least skilled in. What a cheeky attitude. I'm living 30 miles from Normandie u moron, I'm going there every 10 days and HALF OF MY FRIENDS ARE NORMAN!!! Have u ever been outside the US ? I'm not sure.
townsley2 2 months ago
@legomyeggo713
I'm telling you, ignorant pretentious fool, that Norman feel 130% french as their 1000 yrs ancestor felt frankish. Encycloeadia Britannica says it, english Historians say it and that old famous norman tapestry in Bayeux says it : it descibes the invasion of England and Normans call themselves "Francii"! should I translate? They had french architecture: ROMAN! french religion : CHRISTIAN, and french language: OIL! end of the story. No history lessons needed from Hollywood, thanks
townsley2 2 months ago
@townsley2 That is true, I'll give you credit that. It seems we have come to a conclusion. Have a nice day (no sarcasm intended)!
GeamProducts 2 months ago
@GeamProducts
Thank you ! things can be so simple when people share views without insulting.
You do have a nice day.
townsley2 2 months ago
@townsley2 Really because france did not even exist than you fuckin retard
legomyeggo713 2 months ago
@legomyeggo713
As for ur "france did not even exist " stupid lign, please take note that the word "France" is used since the 3rd century AD. It meant the country of the Franks. Although there's not a precise date to its birth, as a christian country, France was considered existing since 481 AD, when Clovis Ist became the first french christian king and united all the former frankish kingdoms settled in the actual location of France.
Next time, think before writing insulting posts !
townsley2 2 months ago
@townsley2 It was called Neustria and Clovis was born in Flanders, and also Normans weren't Franks They were Normans now there Franks ever sense they got conquered by the Franks in the 1300's try talking to a person from Normandy they still believe they are Normans not French.
legomyeggo713 2 months ago
@legomyeggo713
Oh shut up, will you ! you don't know shit, you're getting it all mixed up and you can't even write correctly !
Now fuck off insolent boy !
townsley2 2 months ago
@townsley2 You started it by calling the Normans french Normans weren't french !
legomyeggo713 2 months ago
@townsley2 yea, and Count William of Normandy was actually related to Rollo, the Norwegian who settled in Normandy.
Strategos300 2 months ago
@townsley2 And you were a relatively respected nation until you allowed the Germans to walk all over you in the 20th century (twice).
Jadesfilthyshoes 1 month ago
@Jadesfilthyshoes
Wars have been fought, many won and some lost. Anyway, I can assure you France remains a fully respected nation since it won more wars than any country ever ! although a bunch of scornful and unaware roastbeefs still take as a duty to spit on it...
"Let a fool hate France" G.K. Chesterton.
townsley2 1 month ago
@townsley2 just no.
LordArrow55 1 month ago
@LordArrow55
OH YES !!!!! You know a simple "just no" won't convince anyone and will just make a troll of yourself, don't you !
Now, come on don't be shy, make your point and i'll explain how wrong you are !
townsley2 1 month ago
NO HD :(
fellout4 1 year ago
social studies !!!!!
elasdickband027 1 year ago
I love how the Normans already have an English accent.
EmperorHarold 1 year ago
Wait so english people are vikings!!! and Americans TOOOOOOOO OMG that weird
nk11223 1 year ago
@nk11223 Americans? America has largest mix race/culture in the world lol.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 but the most mixed country is france
manecas30 1 year ago
@manecas30 no it's the USA. latins,blacks,Asains,whites,Native-Americans,
and the fact that the U.S population is much larger then that of France.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@manecas30 in france u got black, white, chinise, north africans, jwewish, catholics,islamic, gypsys, and so ever.
but it is true (of course) that america is Much more populated
manecas30 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 its horrible. I has no culture other than materialism. I plan on going to the land of my ancestors and leaving this shithole. I hate America, and hae never felt connected to it. I wish I was born in England or Ireland where ym ancestors came from.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
@seamuspowers um you need help lol. I think the Nazi and CSA stuff all over you channel shows that.
born in England or Ireland? lol.England is full of ppl from the middle east lol.
my Ancestors are German, but I like America thank you very much.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
wait no i'm thinking of agincourt
mattfca 1 year ago
the normans where vikings from denmark, not french
Hakkaballe 1 year ago
@Hakkaballe The main army was yes, many stayed there and created a 'living space' and farm lands. It would be interesting if there was any way to find out if one is descended from Normans. I have many Norman surnames but I doubt Im related to any, Im probably Anglo-Saxon/Irish Gael mostly.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
I wish you could play as the saxons, I would love to have used the housecarls in this battle and would have kicked Norman ass! anglo-saxons all the way! if your looking for a cool mod where you can play as the normans, saxons, vikings and cetls check out 'the last kingdom' mod, its more centered around anglo-saxon england but there are many factions to play as. check it out, the guys making it are putting alot of work into it, looks really good. google it.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
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I wish this song was on the soundtrack.
cswebandrew 2 years ago
What happened to the part after we sail to england? you know and conquest........o well fraps has the cuts doesnt it?
CaptainDickerson 2 years ago
I just bought the game today but it is so hard! I can't beat nottingham! Any tips?
petetheweet 2 years ago
what faction r u playing?
Poonounce 2 years ago
Have a good mix of units, calvary, archers, and spear units. You dont get sword men for awhile, you should probably hold off on fighting your enemy until you research or update your army so your spearmen, archers have chainmail. the more armor and better weapons could result in your army having better chances of winning battles. rebel factions dont always have good equipment and that is your advantage over them.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
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Well, SORRY! I'm not very good in English/British or whatever history, because I'm American! Plus, I really am fat, and I find those comments Prejudice and Insulting. WE WON THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, BUDDY, GET OVER IT!
carthagertw 2 years ago
too bad in m2tw there is only 1 cinamic intro
lxgiwylgta 3 years ago 2
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britain sucks in M2. BYZANTINES AND ROMANS ROCK!
carthagertw 3 years ago
Britian are good in M2 (not just saying that cause im British.)
Markl2407 3 years ago 3
u mean England is good in M2 as britain didnt exist until the 1600s... unless u were talking about the expansion game =P
turdpolish704 3 years ago 7
Smartass nah only joking lol.
Markl2407 3 years ago 3
England is good, I find them too easy to use. I use the holy roman empire, but they are hard because you have enemies on all sides. You hear about the new mod? you will get to play as the saxons of wessex, danes from the danelaw, normans, icelanders, ireland, norway, denmark [who own the danelaw], francia [eastern half only though]. Im siked about it, its my favorite period in english history, and viking history. I dont know who to play as first.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
@turdpolish704 what do you say about Britannia the Roman Province?
mercedesSlk666 1 year ago
@turdpolish704 Britannia was and still is the name of the island. The U.K mainland is Great Britain. The name of our nation is the United Kingdom as it includes Northern Ireland, the channel isles and various colonies here and there along with the three countries of Britain. The Romans didn't have a name for this country as it was absorbed into their empire making Britannia a province of Rome. Britain isn't now, nor has it ever been a nation.
jacksawild 8 months ago
@turdpolish704 u idiot, Britain always existed its been there since the stone age and before, Britain is the land, u so dumb
shiyboy4 5 months ago
@shiyboy4 na thats britannia
funnyguyagency 5 months ago
@funnyguyagency Britain is Britannia, dude its the same thing
shiyboy4 5 months ago
@shiyboy4 u missed my point
funnyguyagency 5 months ago
@funnyguyagency yea, but now tht in drunk i full y getit how lol is tht, tht s lol my ass foifff
shiyboy4 5 months ago
Plus, this is in MY opinion.
carthagertw 2 years ago
Jesusfuckingchrist, i have something to say to you. Who would you rather conquer england , the french or the germans?
id say thats pretty easy to answer.
The saxons where from germany.
jamcrap2 3 years ago
William was the heir to the throne. Not Harold... Harold took it, causing the first time ever an English King had to invade his own country.
It was not the French. It was the Duke of Normandy, the rightful king of England.
Mavrik347 2 years ago
Harold=last King of Saxon England. I dont think any of the people had the right to claim the throne, but Harold wasm orel iked than the Norman or Norwegian who were more power hungry. Harold was voted into Power where as the toehr too felt England belonged to them and created fuedalism, which resulted in many people losing their 'free' status. Edward the confessor told both kings they could have England, he was probably senial.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
Not rightful, he wasnt voted in by the wittan, which were a council, or the first free peoples asembly. William was not eve elected. You might have to dive deeper into it, the Normans somewhat ruined England, but did bring in many advancements. I dont fnd them to be of the best rulers, they were very very greedy and treated the peasantry horribly. The A/S kings were the opposite. The Normans I believe created many problems in the British Islands with their greed.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
Since when were Kings "elected"? lol
IIRC which I believe I do. Harolds father promised William the thrown for saving his life. When he died his son took it and refused William of the throne that he had by right.
Call me an old fashioned Englishman. But if I'm King and give you my word that you will inherit my throne. Then when I die (presuming it is not a result of you) you are the rightful King. Not my son. Not some random bloke some pencil pushers like. You.
Mavrik347 1 year ago
Have you ever read up on Anglo-Saxon England? Look up the Wittan, thats when a council of the anglo-saxon chieftons would vote or descide about descisions on the fate of their country or any other important matters. In 1066, alot was goin on, which anyone can notice looking at the evidence. William was promised the throne by Edward the Confessor, Edward also promised Harold GODWINSON, who was not his son. Harold was elected to be the next king by the indigenous English, not Normans.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
Well let me figure this out
Normans - Part French, Mostly Scandinavian ancestors from Viking Past
Saxons - Danish,German,Scandinavian Ancestors
Well it ended up being Former-Viking vs Former-Barbarian/Viking
BlackPanteraSociety 3 years ago
Hahaha! Too much shit in there! My numbers are fakes? Your brain is fake my dear. I see that you met an other brain-washed guy SaxonYear, you're forming a great freak show together.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
Look up your facts, you said that 16 danish had died when denmark was invaded by the nazis, 36 died. You said that they were cowards, look up your facts again lad, dk had signed a non-aggression pact with the german, who is the coward now?
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
the alemmani actually stayed in southern germany, you see in spanish alemania or kingdom of the alemmani means germany, the visigoths fled to spain and southern france but when the franks conquered that are they fled to spain, only very few stayed behind, as for the french king, the king almost never left paris because the countryside was run by "robber barons" and powerful dukes it wasnt till the 100 years war that france united to try and stop the english {norman/saxon] advance,didnt work out.
123duffbeerrules 3 years ago
Yep, some of them(allemannis) fled to odoacer's ostrogothic empire.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
*correction*
Odovacar.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
by the way the flemish might have been vassals of the french but they werent french, the flemish are of germanic not french ancestrey so what u say is a lie.
123duffbeerrules 3 years ago
i used to skip this tutorial in MED II!
Langobarde88 3 years ago
Well you know, the locals did not do alot to help the allied troops, I remember a French woman whose family was setttled in Normandy say to me that the Germans did, every morning, her breakfast for her mum! But she never dared to talk to them.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
I've never denied the fact that the Normans spoke 'french' if you could say.
But ancient french at the time was called 'romane' and wasn't usually spoken by kings. But by peasants instead!
Normand is the french word for it, check the other comments and you'll see if they write it with a d. We write it down 'Norman'.
Another proof and reason that the Normans were vikings and should be written 'Norman' by everyone:
Norman<North Men<Norrmannr.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
The Normans were in France since 200 years, spoke French, were mixed with the Franks, were faithful to the King of France and considered themselves as "French" when they invaded England.
They were French, accepts it.
And an important part of the William's (Guillaume) army were French, ("true" French).
The Franco-Normans conquered England, that's all.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
The normans only mixed with the people of Brittany and Flanders, these kingdoms were not french duchies of other kind at the time.
The french knights wich composed William's army were mercenaries given to william and buyed out by the pope himself, the king of france had very bad relations with william.
By the way, William's first battle was fought against the french.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
The king of France helped Guillaume during the battle of Val-ès-Dunes. And the normans were mixed with the French.
"the king of france had very bad relations with william."
Yeah, and so? Many kings had bad relations with other lords during the middle-ages, that's not a question of nationality. And that king died in 1060.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
If a man from Africa has a french name, does that means he's french?
Same thing goes on with the Normans, they've been influenced and you can't deny it.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
"The french knights wich composed William's army were mercenaries given to william and buyed out by the pope himself"
Sorry but even if it's true, that don't changes the fact that they were French.
Btw, more than the half of the William's army (during the invasion of England) were not Normans but came from France and Flanders.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
Brittany and flanders, these kingdoms were less than duchies or other kinds and did not belong to the king of france.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
Half the soldiers at hastings were Franks (so Parisians)!
But you're may be going to say that parisians, inhabitant from the capital of France are not French lol.
There were Picards, Beaucerons, Angevins, Poitevins, Breton.. too.
They were from "Duchés" , "Comtés" of the kingdom.
All together it's call kingdom of France.
During the conquest of England, there were more French soldiers than Normand soldiers (who were French too, so lol)
French conquered England, that's all.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
In 1066, The "Normans" were already French from 250 years, they married French women from the first generations.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
And Well out of 7000 men in Guillaume's army:
-2500 were Franks, so French from Picardy and North of Paris, region under King of France autority.
-2500 were Flemish, Flanders was a vassal region of the king of France at that time.
-2000 were Bretons and Normands.
Note that the Bretons and the Normands are "officialy" FRENCH today.
So, on 7000 soldiers, 4500 were\are FRENCH!
France is made of lots of regions, that why we have a so great culture.
We conquered England in 1066, that's all...
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
Of course there were some Picards, Beaucerons, Angevins, Poitevins etc.. incorporated in the Frankish army, the Flemish army, the Breton army and the Norman army.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
ur wrong,williams army was 7500 men strong as such:
3000 normans [not french]
2500 flemish [from flanders not france] aka dutch once again not french
2000 were french ok
plus some other soldiers from several other fifdoms in total only 2000 were french less than 1/3 of his army. williams verey name proves he did not consider himself french WILLIAM FROM THE GERMAN WILHELM.
123duffbeerrules 3 years ago
Nicely spoken mate, I already had a row with him earlier, he only gives fake numbers.
And I forgot to say that france was regarded as a feodal country Raven, do not forget that each duchies were independant, and people did not mix at the time matey. People started to give mixed ascendance during the late 1300s at that time normandy belonged to the french, and the real normans had all fled to england.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
LOL the french think THEY conquered england!
That is sad.
JesusFuckingChristt 3 years ago 4
It gets better than that. Although William the Bastard took the throne, the current monarchy of the UK today descends from King Harold Godwinson!
hardcharging 3 years ago
Issues much?
The Normans were not all french. They are former vikings/barbarians. As black said above.
They didn't conquer all of England if I remember. They fought for the throne.
gogobsu 3 years ago 3
That may be, but they did mix in with the native population living in Normandy at the time. That wasn't my point. My point was that despite William's best efforts, as well as his descendants, Harold Godwinson's line is the current monarchy of the UK. Look up their genealogy. Harold is their DIRECT ancestor.
hardcharging 3 years ago 3
Oh I see.
I always thought his point was too take England for himself (after the popes approval)
because, he was promised it. I didn't know keeping his line of descendants was his goal.
Oh I don't wanna make an arguement out of it. :P
gogobsu 3 years ago
I beg to differ, the Normans and Anglo-Saxon royalty is no longer. Infact the current are Windsors who are not at all even English, they are German. I would tend to think they may have alot of Welsh ancestory too. So maybe King Arthur's people? hahah Godwinsons and all other Anglo-Saxon royalty were expelled from England after the Norman invasion. The Normans too later became extinct. Geneticists cant even find them in Britian or Ireland today, its as if they never came over.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
@seamuspowers Not true
janissary211 1 year ago
Its obv. Norman stands for North men
XXxClassicRockxXX 2 years ago
@JesusFuckingChristt Well, in all honesty, Normandy is a French province, and the Normans are from Normandy. Thus technically from France. Since William the Conqueror (a.k.a the Bastard) was a Normal king, he is technically French as well. That being said, he was not called the "Conqueror" for nothing, as seen in the cinematic (which was nicely done by CA might I add) he invaded and conquered modern-day England. So yes, technically the french conquered England. It's not sad. Just a fact.
ChivKnight 1 year ago
@ChivKnight Actually you are incorrect Normandy was a nation in what is present-day France but at the time France was split. You have to release that land was previously Celtic until Charlemagne went to the Germanic states and formed the Holy Roman Empire. But yes CA did do a very good intro and made sure the Normans didn't have french heraldry.
wafflesfly 1 year ago
@ChivKnight No the Normandy people were not French they were Scandanavian, back then Normandy was not part of France, it was a kingdom of it's own. The English people won a cultural victory over the Normans there after, which is why English people are called English and not Norman.
Dandramere 1 year ago
@Dandramere The normans were only there in normandy for afew generations, and it was a small area fo land so many started to leave, and invade england, ireland and scotland, for more land and power. They were very powerful for their time and such a small bunch which is great but they were a corrupted people.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
@ChivKnight The Normans were Danes mostly, however Hrolf the first Norman ruler was Norwegian and almost became the Earl of Orkney in northern Scotland. However that never happened, and he was banned from Norway along with his viking army so they sacked Paris and the French king allowed them to live and have Normandy if the Normans [Northmen] paid alliegence to the French king and fought for them. The Normans were not French and were never considered French by the Franks in those days.
seamuspowers 1 year ago
@JesusFuckingChristt Because they were French. Norman French
janissary211 1 year ago
@JesusFuckingChristt 2 things for you 1.the normans will be angry ya said that 2. normans where french and why didnt those fucking scots come help out
fellout4 1 year ago 4
@JesusFuckingChristt
The British think THEY won Waterloo... Not sad maybe?
(18% British, 82% Germans, Prussians, Dutch...)
The Normands with Scandinavian origins were a minority, the English think that Normandy was a no man's land area before the Viking invasion? Mostly of them were french, or mixed. It was not a Kingdom but a duchy dependant of the Kingdom of France.
And they were French knights from all the kingdoms at Hastings, not only from Normandy...
Freez57fr 1 year ago
hahaha. its so funny how fench people take credit for victories not their own. first cardinal rule of french warfare, if u cant win a victory, take someone elses. according to you napoleans victories were not french because he was genoese [italian] and a good portion of his army was from germany [prussia],poland and the many germanic duchies.
123duffbeerrules 3 years ago
Your country has been generalized, you think that todays' ALsacian people are from alemannic ascendance: WRONG,the alemannis fled to italy and even reached the Byzantine empire.
Actual Norman people are from Viking descent: WRONG, the viking normans all fled to england.
People from the Pyrenees are from wisigoths descent: WRONG, they all fled to Spain.
If france would be that diversified as you claim it so, it would've been a federal state.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
The french had the use to murder everyone who wasn't french when they conquered new territories during the middle-ages.
Mixing wasn't well regarded in the middle ages.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
@SaxonYear410
You're a real asshole and ignorant...
Of course French people is diversified.
The Brittons, the Alsacians, The Coriscans, people from the pyrenees haven't the same ethnicity... You're telling a lot of bullshit...
Of course the ethnicities are limited by the political borders -_- ...
If France is not "federal", it's because of his political history and the "centralism" of the Bourbons and of the revolution.
Freez57fr 1 year ago
@Freez57fr
The French WERE diversified sir, but that ended after the Hundred Years War as it layed the path to a unique centralized national identity.
Much of French prestige was lost because of the adoption of centralism, but what most french people forget is that France was a very flawed notion before the Hundred Year's War (eg. the term of 'Frank' was used to qualify Western Euros at the time and made little distinction between the French and the Germans)
SaxonYear410 1 year ago
@Freez57fr
This prestige was Charlemagne's Imperial heritage, and this prestige was what made France so attractive during the Middle Ages, The English nobility itself didn't speak 'french' but 'anglo-norman' which is only a variant of french. This prestige is nowadays still carried by....the English ('England' itself is a somehow flawed notion: people often use 'England' to describe Great britain or sometimes the British Isles but never England).
SaxonYear410 1 year ago
@Freez57fr
There's also something quite interesting when observing how much the french flag changed throughout history: blue and red being the colors of Paris, the French Republican flag was in itself the unremittable proof of Parisian domination on her former realm, for Nationalism and democracy are nothing but a veneration of the folk which symbolizes in itself a result of the effects of Monarchy and Catholicism on the country.
SaxonYear410 1 year ago
@Freez57fr
Then you have yet another result proving how damaging the republic has been for France: the restauration flag was a white flag: no fleur-de-lys, nothing. In other words, France has spread Xstianity and gained prestige by doing so but quickly erased it with the creation of a national identity (100 Yrs War) and then finished it off by attempting to spread her own dogma throughout Europe (Napoleonic Wars) and in which England was left untouched and thus kept medieval prestige.
SaxonYear410 1 year ago
@Freez57fr
And btw, about 70% of Frenchmen are R1b Basques, so much for genetic diversity....
SaxonYear410 1 year ago
See the tapestry of Bayeux about the conquest of England:
HIC CECIDERUNT SIMUL ANGLI ET FRANCI IN PRELIO.
Here fell the English (Angli) and the French (Franci) simultaneously in the battle
HIC FRANCI PUGNANT.
Here the French fight.
ET FUGA VERTERUNT ANGLI.
And the English fled.
RavenSoldier 3 years ago
You know the christians had the use to call every people who settled on the european continent (not the british isles-even if they are part of europe)'franks'.
And that applied to every people from the ex-Carolingian empire's lands.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
But Charles knew it wouldn't be enough for Rollo, so he proposed him to become his vassal, as a pledge of loyalty to the occidental frankish king, Rollo changed his name to the christian name of Robert.
And Robert became Duke of Normandy, and Normandy was influenced by his neighbour as a result.
And Rollo was one of Duke William's ancestor.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
Want some prooves ?
Go and see it for yourself instead.
Normandy was given to the Normans by carolingian king Charles the simple, after the invasion of Paris, france couldn't pay the ransom to the Vikings. If they would've payed they would've came back with a bigger army anyway. So he decided to give some land (Normandy) to Rollo the Norwegian.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
You know history man! And your blog is really cool!
Langobarde88 3 years ago 2
this guy is just fucked up! Do you really think that the Normands (with a D, please!) didn't speak French when Guillaume (William) invaded England??? Do you really think he was a kind of...Viking??? lol! Please take some other informations at "bibliotheque nationale de normandie" at Rouen if you really wants to know the real history about that!
sirhill77 3 years ago
The Normans spoke a romane-like language mixed with some Norse words.
And if you want to know why words like parliament given to by 'parlement' in french.
It's just because it's founder, Simon De Montfort was an Anglo-French knight, whose son, Simon DeMontfort II, will be the leader of the baron's revolt, who was also crushed at Evesham.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
Certainly not.
If a chinese speaks fluently and perfectly french, does that make him a frenchman, francophonic yes, francophile perhaps.
But not french.
I'd rather appreciate you guys speak of Viking Normans and not French Normansinstead , romane(french language at the time) was only spoken by peasants, the highier class usually spoke latin, UNTIL king FrancisI made it the official language.
SaxonYear410 3 years ago
So the British are german-french people?
TillLindemann101 3 years ago
So the British are german-french people?
TillLindemann101 3 years ago
okay listen. THE ANGLO SAXONS, of anlge and german descent (saxony) CAME TO ENGLAND AND STAYED THEIR AFTER THE CELTIC (VIKING DESCENT). {{germanic also has scandinavian in it btw}} the NORMANS CAME SPEAKING A FRENCH DIALECT. THE ANGLO-SAXON/VIKING DIALECT MIXED WITH THE FRENCH NORMAN
CREATING ANGLISH OR ENGLAND AND CREATING ENGLAND. (ANGLAND) or sumthin like that. haha
and DUUUUUUUUUUUUH THEY GONNA SPEAK ENGLISH. why make dumb subtitles in the ONLY cinematic in the game??? THATS retarded
Hadrian69 3 years ago
William of Normandy spoke a Norman, a dialect, or a language strongly related to French. Why the hell does he have RP British Accent?
That's retarded!
SpikeJonze 3 years ago
yep they could speak french and put up english subtitles.
Pikaqiu 3 years ago
Because it was a different kind of french, you dumbshits. The French spoken in 1066 was very very different to the French spoken in modern times. Having William speak modern French would be just as retarded as having him speak with an RP British accent.
KingBlue 3 years ago 3
yep, at that time French looked a lot like late latin.
hottekerstbabe 3 years ago
Because it was a different kind of french, you dumbshits. The French spoken in 1066 was very very different to the French spoken in modern times. Having William speak modern French would be just as retarded as having him speak with an RP British accent.
KingBlue 3 years ago
I love the cut scenes, but just saying at the battle of hastings, 1066, william rufus, william the conquerers son was never at the battle, he was at normandy.
cooldude1581 3 years ago
i dont no but thy did live in moden day denmark so i really dont no but
peacemaker1994 4 years ago
The Saxons speaked german rigth?
ImperialGuard9001 4 years ago
no well they are used to live in denmark so danish i think
peacemaker1994 4 years ago
I tough they lived in germany , saxon , well they lived too in Jutland so in that time german and danish were very smilar
ImperialGuard9001 4 years ago
no they spoke norrønne in that time så du dret deg ut eller gjorde jeg det
vintersavn 3 years ago
they spoke english and started the whole english language though they probably spoke german at one point
gangstamillion 3 years ago
love the cinematics in the game especially the assassins
Refnir 4 years ago
yeh the english r the best ;)
1066 was the last time england was conquered, ever.
turdpolish704 4 years ago 2
that would have been changed if it werent for the russians and allied troops in 1944 :D
Saphiregun 3 years ago
it's insane how good games are getting. awesome.
SupremeHedgehog 4 years ago
I hate the Norman Conquest campeign it wont let you do what you want to do it just gets so agravateing I wish there was a mod that could change that.
Godzilla52 4 years ago
my ancestors were in tht battle
Nocoproductions 4 years ago
Where did you find this out?
Which side did he fought on?
pidgeotfan 4 years ago
so were lots of peoples
freddage91 3 years ago