Also regarding the admission of Hizbullah that kidnapping was mistake... You should review all Nasrallah interviews to correct your position on this piece of information. Anyhow they are prisoner swap to occur in mid july as results of the kidnap to show you that all what Nasrallah said has happened in prisoner swap regards.
Let me correct you on the bargining chips... Iran is a nation deriven by believes rather politics and for that they believe that Palestinian people are injustly uprooted from their own land and they are the only nation that is doing something about on the ground. The last thing they care about is bargining chip with USA. To Iranian USA is the greatest devil of all time for you FYI.
I really like the energy and spirt of the writers who challenge the government's version of the story whether it is Iran, Iraq, or 9/11, but it is important to learn the correct terminology and use it correctly if you want to be taken seriously. Learn the difference between "false flag", "provocation", and "falsification" to distinguish situations and not look silly by saying absurd things like "all wars" are started by false flag operations. Saying "all" & "never" is how to lose credibility.
American attitude: Iran is not a regional power but a poor developing country, which spawns fanatic religious freaks, who want to tyrannize the world for their petty thief motives. The rest of the turban wearing peasants ought to bless the day American army brings them liberty and progress from problems, which are innate to all technologically retarded and cultureless societies, and which they have no means to solve. Fuck you!
The Jewnited Snakes has decided to carry out the attack on Iran a long time ago, just like with the Iraq war. What's going on right now is the propaganda phase, followed by the staged terror attack to be blamed on Iran/Hizbullah, and then the attack will begin.
MuslimGhost, you loss your points by using prejudiced language. You may make your friends happy by derogatory name-calling, but you make your good points worthless by wrapping them in mud.
Donkey: So if there were a false flag operation in the works to start up another horrific war, you think name calling is the important issue?
'Well yes we've been deceived again, BUT I support going down the war path because the opponents of war were rude to me. So let's get another million people killed, and maybe them damn Liberals will learn some manners.' Something like that?
CO2Junkie, Yes the name-calling is important because you want people to believe you. If you don't care whether anyone else cares about what you say, then by all means have the selfish fun of name-calling.
It is true that virtually all wars are blamed on the other guy, but the assertion that "The other country started it" is not the same as a false flag attack. So while no one usually accepts responisibility for starting a war, it is not true that "all wars have been started with a false flag attack."
You should research it. Every war (or almost every war) waged by America involved a false flag attack. In WW2 for instance America deliberately sent a passenger ship into German waters after the german embassy warned them not to send ships there, or risk being sunk. Gulf of Tonkin incident -> false flag. USS liberty -> attempted false flag. 911 -> false flag. Gulf War 1-> Saddam invaded Kuwait because they were stealing oil from Iraq, the Kuwaitis/Americans lie on the media to start the war, etc
USS Maine sinking -> False flag (an accident, blamed as deliberate attack by Spain)
+ You could say that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was a false-flag attack, in that FDR worked through the ten point McCollum Memo to get Japan to strike first, and then knew what the plan was every step along the way, and did not notify Hawaii.
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This interview really is great stuff, TRN. Thank you.
USS Maine, was most likely a false flag operation. Pearl Harbor could not be called a false flag operation at all. Hiding any info about an impending attack is completely different than making the attack yourself and pretending it was the other guy. The Pearl Harbor operation was a use economiic, political and diplomatic provocation to get the Japanese to attack first. Since it worked there was no need of a false flag operation to conduct a fake attack by the Japanese.
"Hiding any info about an impending attack is completely different than making the attack yourself and pretending it was the other guy"
Right, but having first provoked the other person into the attack isn't "completely different", at all. The principle of isomorphism suggests that "if in two hypotheses the consequences are the same, the two hypotheses may be considered as identical for all purposes of further reasoning". Thus, it can be called an attack on the US by those in charge of the US.
I like philosophy until a point where it does not make sense anymore. If you provoke me to kill you the same as me killing you just because i could is for all purposes of further reasoning identical then there is no right and wrong any more...
kriekor: "If you provoke me to kill you the same as me killing you just because i could is for all purposes of further reasoning identical then there is no right and wrong any more..."
The me/you analogy you have proposed is not the same as happened in 1941, as there were THREE parties involved then: US gov (PERPETRATOR), Japan (TOOL), Pearl Harbor (VICTIM). You need to distinguish between PERPETRATOR and VICTIM, which your analogy does not. What the US government did is unequivocally WRONG.
Research? Sending a US ship into German waters is NOT a false flag operation it is a provocation. Perhaps you should get your terminology straight. A false flag operation would be disguising a US sub as a U-boat to sink the ship. You don't know the definition of a false flag operation. Gulf of Tonkin was not a false flag but a false report. When the US provocation along the coast of North Vietnam failed, on Aug 2 1964 the US fired first and falsified the retaliation as an unprovoked attack.
Uhh yes it was because it was portrayed as an unprovoked sinking by the German navy, despite the fact that the Germans had warned the Americans not to send any passenger ships into that area. It is a false flag operation because it was intentionally allowed by the United States, knowing what the outcome would be. In that sense, they were responsible for the "terror" attack. You need to stop nitpicking over semantics and focus on the bigger issue.
CO@Junkie, I agree that a false flag operation is the most likely scenario for starting an overt war on Iran, but it is not the only way. Instigating an attack with plausible deniability is another tried and true method. And of course remember we are already in a covert war with Iran since we are sending covert missions into Iran as we speak.
There are strong ideological ties between Iran, Hamas and Hizbullah. In the same way as US UK boast a special relationship, some revolutionary Muslims have a close feeling of brotherhood, particularly when threatened by the triad of terror.
Iran persian 7000 years history and yhink about it !! How can you fucking american dream about iran ,,,,,
Pacman27turn28 4 months ago
Sheshe70,,,,your so stupid u dumb ass,,,read what u said I love Iran and give you a chance to attck Iran,,,u ass brain
b4me1212 2 years ago
long live iran i will sacraface my self for keeping peace in iran and world just give me a chance and attack iran.
sheshe670 3 years ago
Also regarding the admission of Hizbullah that kidnapping was mistake... You should review all Nasrallah interviews to correct your position on this piece of information. Anyhow they are prisoner swap to occur in mid july as results of the kidnap to show you that all what Nasrallah said has happened in prisoner swap regards.
kreikor 3 years ago
Let me correct you on the bargining chips... Iran is a nation deriven by believes rather politics and for that they believe that Palestinian people are injustly uprooted from their own land and they are the only nation that is doing something about on the ground. The last thing they care about is bargining chip with USA. To Iranian USA is the greatest devil of all time for you FYI.
kreikor 3 years ago
GReat work ! We need more news channels like you ! Very objective !!
AliVanOranje 3 years ago
I really like the energy and spirt of the writers who challenge the government's version of the story whether it is Iran, Iraq, or 9/11, but it is important to learn the correct terminology and use it correctly if you want to be taken seriously. Learn the difference between "false flag", "provocation", and "falsification" to distinguish situations and not look silly by saying absurd things like "all wars" are started by false flag operations. Saying "all" & "never" is how to lose credibility.
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
American attitude: Iran is not a regional power but a poor developing country, which spawns fanatic religious freaks, who want to tyrannize the world for their petty thief motives. The rest of the turban wearing peasants ought to bless the day American army brings them liberty and progress from problems, which are innate to all technologically retarded and cultureless societies, and which they have no means to solve. Fuck you!
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago
The Jewnited Snakes has decided to carry out the attack on Iran a long time ago, just like with the Iraq war. What's going on right now is the propaganda phase, followed by the staged terror attack to be blamed on Iran/Hizbullah, and then the attack will begin.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
MuslimGhost, you loss your points by using prejudiced language. You may make your friends happy by derogatory name-calling, but you make your good points worthless by wrapping them in mud.
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
Donkey: So if there were a false flag operation in the works to start up another horrific war, you think name calling is the important issue?
'Well yes we've been deceived again, BUT I support going down the war path because the opponents of war were rude to me. So let's get another million people killed, and maybe them damn Liberals will learn some manners.' Something like that?
CO2Junkie 3 years ago
CO2Junkie, Yes the name-calling is important because you want people to believe you. If you don't care whether anyone else cares about what you say, then by all means have the selfish fun of name-calling.
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
Ghost: I worry too that there will be a false flag operation, blamed on Iran, that will attempt to drag the US into another war.
CO2Junkie 3 years ago
Brazinski testified to congress that this would occur. In fact, historically, all wars have been started with a false flag attack.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
It is true that virtually all wars are blamed on the other guy, but the assertion that "The other country started it" is not the same as a false flag attack. So while no one usually accepts responisibility for starting a war, it is not true that "all wars have been started with a false flag attack."
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
You should research it. Every war (or almost every war) waged by America involved a false flag attack. In WW2 for instance America deliberately sent a passenger ship into German waters after the german embassy warned them not to send ships there, or risk being sunk. Gulf of Tonkin incident -> false flag. USS liberty -> attempted false flag. 911 -> false flag. Gulf War 1-> Saddam invaded Kuwait because they were stealing oil from Iraq, the Kuwaitis/Americans lie on the media to start the war, etc
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
USS Maine sinking -> False flag (an accident, blamed as deliberate attack by Spain)
+ You could say that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was a false-flag attack, in that FDR worked through the ten point McCollum Memo to get Japan to strike first, and then knew what the plan was every step along the way, and did not notify Hawaii.
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This interview really is great stuff, TRN. Thank you.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
USS Maine, was most likely a false flag operation. Pearl Harbor could not be called a false flag operation at all. Hiding any info about an impending attack is completely different than making the attack yourself and pretending it was the other guy. The Pearl Harbor operation was a use economiic, political and diplomatic provocation to get the Japanese to attack first. Since it worked there was no need of a false flag operation to conduct a fake attack by the Japanese.
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
"Hiding any info about an impending attack is completely different than making the attack yourself and pretending it was the other guy"
Right, but having first provoked the other person into the attack isn't "completely different", at all. The principle of isomorphism suggests that "if in two hypotheses the consequences are the same, the two hypotheses may be considered as identical for all purposes of further reasoning". Thus, it can be called an attack on the US by those in charge of the US.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
I like philosophy until a point where it does not make sense anymore. If you provoke me to kill you the same as me killing you just because i could is for all purposes of further reasoning identical then there is no right and wrong any more...
kreikor 3 years ago
kriekor: "If you provoke me to kill you the same as me killing you just because i could is for all purposes of further reasoning identical then there is no right and wrong any more..."
The me/you analogy you have proposed is not the same as happened in 1941, as there were THREE parties involved then: US gov (PERPETRATOR), Japan (TOOL), Pearl Harbor (VICTIM). You need to distinguish between PERPETRATOR and VICTIM, which your analogy does not. What the US government did is unequivocally WRONG.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
Research? Sending a US ship into German waters is NOT a false flag operation it is a provocation. Perhaps you should get your terminology straight. A false flag operation would be disguising a US sub as a U-boat to sink the ship. You don't know the definition of a false flag operation. Gulf of Tonkin was not a false flag but a false report. When the US provocation along the coast of North Vietnam failed, on Aug 2 1964 the US fired first and falsified the retaliation as an unprovoked attack.
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
Uhh yes it was because it was portrayed as an unprovoked sinking by the German navy, despite the fact that the Germans had warned the Americans not to send any passenger ships into that area. It is a false flag operation because it was intentionally allowed by the United States, knowing what the outcome would be. In that sense, they were responsible for the "terror" attack. You need to stop nitpicking over semantics and focus on the bigger issue.
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
CO@Junkie, I agree that a false flag operation is the most likely scenario for starting an overt war on Iran, but it is not the only way. Instigating an attack with plausible deniability is another tried and true method. And of course remember we are already in a covert war with Iran since we are sending covert missions into Iran as we speak.
DonkeyofHeaven 3 years ago
It is all about power, control and oil. If you don't comply, then they will make you comply.
Hopefl1 3 years ago
This interviewer asks good questions. And he doesn't talk to much. Great 5 stars.
Hellboysjd 3 years ago 2
Paul Jay is the guy that started The Real News. He certainly knows his stuff, and really does deliver the REAL news.
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lastnymleft 3 years ago
There are strong ideological ties between Iran, Hamas and Hizbullah. In the same way as US UK boast a special relationship, some revolutionary Muslims have a close feeling of brotherhood, particularly when threatened by the triad of terror.
nassermashadi 3 years ago 4
Hezbollah is a tool to keep Isrial in check... Yeah right...
without a doubt, by Bushs visit , the USA is the sword of Isrial... and in that case Hezbollah has failed keeping Isrial in check.
btigtime2 3 years ago
very interesting
RationalLiberty 3 years ago
Go Iran go!!
MementoExpose 3 years ago 14
Wow! Look at the thumbs you're getting!
I guess when it comes to "If you're not with us, you're against us", the people have spoken. (Well, at least this little straw poll of TRN viewers)
lastnymleft 3 years ago
check out my show last night. I debuted my new song about Malcolm Little. watch?v=iR1PXbx0M2U
oldhacks 3 years ago