Qadianism (“Ahmadism”) is pseudo religion whose leadership exploits its members socially, psychologically and financially. The leaders of this cult have been able to maintain their hegemony over their ordinary members through treachery, plagiarism, cruel and inhuman discipline. This cult aims to steal the identity of Islam by misinterpreting the original sources of Islam.
Ghulam Ahmed means Ahmed ka ghulam . Khuda ne jitne bhi peghamber bheje sabh ka martaba Khandan aur naam se buland rakha jis mein us k nabi ko nicha sabit na kia ja sake but ye to nam se he ghulam hy aur Ahmed ka ghulam . he can never be a prophet . and if he tried to spread the teachings of Quran then billions of Muslims already doing that and they never claim to be a prophet .
Some of our brothers think calling names n cursing others beliefs is right but wen some one else does it to us it's tauheen e risaalat. If u don't show respect how do h expect respect. Beating women n treating them as second class citizens isn't Islam. Stop lockin ur women in the house. Stop asking for dawry. Please jz b muslims
Sunni , Ahmadi , Shia etc. Get over it. Only name that we r prescribed by god n the prophet (p.b.u.h) is muslim. Creating devisions n subdivisions is a sin. Just Muslim. Can we just try being Muslims 1st. Rest is all crap . Please just identify urselves as Muslims. N stop this devisions.
@abcdefgh12374 Amazing comment! The truth is that members of Ahmadiyya Jamaat actually pay at least 1/16th of everything that they possess for the sake of Allah and His religion Islam. We sacrifice our lives, wealth, time, children, and everything that is dear to us for the sake of Allah because this is what Islam teaches us. It is your Mullahs who have destroyed the peace of thousands of people in the name of Islam for the sake of few pennies! May Allah protect everyone from their sharr.
Ahmadi logon nay khud, balkay Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani nay Muhammad ki Touheen ki, khudd ko Nabi kah kr. Ahmadi are ahmadi they are not Muslims anyway, becoz aap Quran say Ziyadah Mirza ki kitabon per amel kartay hain. jhoot boollo ji bhar ky.
@billibilli1 Do you even know what kind of Prophethood did Promised Messiah claime himself to be? Let me write a few urdu couplets of Promised Messiah here: "Har taraf fikr ko dora kay thakaaya ham nay...koi deeN deenay Muhammad sa naa paayaa ham nay. Mustafa par tera behad ho salaam aur rahmat...uss say ye noor baar-e-Khudaaya ham nay." Books of Promised Messiah are nothing but the explanation of Quran and hadith. For once research the teachings of Jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya with pure heart.
@billibilli1 Which "false stories" are you talking about? Hatoo Burhanakum (bring your proof) if you are truthful. Don't just come here with big claims without any Quranic evidence to support your claims. If you want to discuss something with me here, discuss it in a polite and rational way. If you can't do that then I don't like wasting my time and faith in useless talk.
@billibilli1 You should do proper unbiased research on the issue before coming up with these ignorant comments. Have you ever read a single book written by the Promised Messiah (as)? Had you ever done that, you would know that the writings of Promised Messiah are nothing but the explanation of Quran and hadith. Promised Messiah says in one : "Uss noor (Prophet Muhammad) par fida hooN, uss kaa hee maiN hua hooN...Woh hay, main cheez kia hooN, bass faisla yahi hay" Pls. do humble research.
@billibilli1 aap ko bohat bari ghalat fehmi hai main qasam khata hun ye sub hamaray khilaf propaganda hai...main ALLAH ko hazir jan k kehta hun Muhammad (s.a.w) ALLAH k AAKHRI NABI HAIN..... or ye yad rakhna k mirza sahab ki ek bat bhi quran se hat kar nahin..
@sitamho This is the kind of language that you speak and then dare to associate yourself with the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). On top of that you then have the audacity to call us Kafirs. I would respond to your ignorant comment in Persian words of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as): "Ba'daz Khuda ba'isqe Muhammad mukhammaram...gar Kufr eeN bawad, baKhuda sakht Kafirum." (I am intoxicated in the love of Muhammad sallalahu alaihe wasallam after Allah. If this is kufr then by God I am biggest Kafir)
KAFIR HO TUM .... marzai deviated from right path ... ahmed mirza got pregnant ??? hahaha what a foolish person he is... saying every thing from himself... i read his book... he is saying masiah himself.... i think u dont know his criminal back ground?? do u ? please return to correct and rightious path... refer ur self to Quraan And hadith sahi.... he says himself prophet ??/ in quran it is said that no prophet after Muhammas S.A.W ...
@sitamho Ap ke kehne se na to kabhi koi musalman hoga na hi kafir. Kaun musalman hai aur kaun nahin hai yeh Allah pe chor de te hain.
Jahan tak baat hai Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki, ham unko bilkul Khatam-un-Nabiyeen mante hain. Ab agar ap ki kam akal aur kam ilm unko "AKHRI" nabi samaj ta hai to woh ap ka kusoor hai na ke hamara. Qur'an mein kahin nahin uno akhri kaha gaya, Arabic mein Khatam ka matlab harkis akhri nahin hota. Apne mullah se kahen ke pehle Arabic to sikh lein phir behes karein.
First answer my question; How funny it is; when you don't believe that he was the last Messenger of ALLAH, then how come you believe Aap (SAW) hadith is a certificate for you.
@Colli74 When Holy Prophet never declared himself to be the last prophet of all kinds, then why should we believe as such? Holy Quran and the words of Holy Prophet (pbuh) inform us that Holy Prophet is the last law bearing prophet and the Khataman Nabiyyeen (best of all prophets), however prophethood within Islam in subordination of Holy Prophet's prophethood for the purpose of Islam's revival in this age is in complete line with Islamic teachings. Why should we believe otherwise?
You ahmadi quoting two Hadith in context of a certificate from our Beloved Prophet Hazarat Muhammad Mustafa (SAW) that you are muslim (ALLAH Forbidden).
How funny it is; when you don't believe that he was the last Messenger of ALLAH, then how come you believe Aap (SAW) hadith is a certificate for you.
Go & check numbers of Sahih Hadith in which Aap (SAW) says he is the last messenger & if anyone denies it will be no more muslims.
@Colli74 If Holy Prophet really said that no prophet of any kind (even non-law bearing prophet within his ummah in his subordination) could come after him then explain this hadith: "Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me except if there happens to be a prophet." (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138)? Also explain to me why are the non-Ahmadi Muslims waiting for the coming of PROPHET JESUS AFTER HOLY PROPHET if no prophet of anykind can ever come now? Stop this hypocrisy and fear Allah.
@amirzubairmughal Fear Allah.You didn't like the hadith so you just assumed that Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad (ATBA) is deceiving people by making it up? This is the reference for you: Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever prays like us and faces our Quibla and eats our slaughtered animals is a Muslim and is under Allah's and His Apostle's protection. So do not betray Allah by betraying those who are in His protection." (Bukhari Book Salat 8:386). Seek forgiveness from Allah!
@IslamAhmadiya hai dont try to black mail me,, you fear Allah not me,, i asked ? when you go to toilet do you prefer to sit or stand for pissing (what islam says),, tell me about that question ?
@amirzubairmughal Okay don't fear Allah. What is the point of that question. Ask the follow up question that you have in mind and I will answer you then.
now listen why i m asking the question that what is best to piss for muslim,, because i have sahi hadits in which Mohummad(pbuh) pissing the urine in both ways(sit and stand) in a sahi hadit he also prefer standing rather then to site ,,but we know if we sit then more chances of purity,, now you can ask hadit numbers ,but will you change your mind,, look i hate those who use hadits to proves their wrongs into right ,same what qadiyanies does even many sunni muslims,, i will say bulshit
@amirzubairmughal First you say no quotation for the hadith, so it must be wrong. Once quotation is given to you, anyone who uses hadith for explaining Islam becomes hate worthy in your eyes. Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam always takes Quran as the first source of guidance and considers hadith and sunnah of beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) very important. We however don't accept any so called hadith that contradicts Quran. Word of Quran and word of Holy Prophet according to us can never contradict.
@IslamAhmadiya if i qoute some hadits contradicts with each other even with Quran and sahi hadits will you change your mind no, because its all about politics like some ignorant mullahs ,,you ahmadies and ignorant mullah will be in same line in hearafter,,
@amirzubairmughal Our answer is very simple. Quran comes first. Anything that contradicts Quran can't be true. Hadith has to be read and understood in light of Quranic teachings. Holy Prophet could never say anything that would contradict Quran. This is how you distinguish authentic hadith from fabricated one. Once again, you are passing judgements on our end in hereafter. Leave such matters to God alone and worry about your own end before passing judgements on others.
@IslamAhmadiya before you said hadits can naver contradicts each other well it is good if you accept that,,yes Any Hadit which goes against Quran you have right to reject that Hadit ,, now when you shows many hadits which might be similar to Quran where you proves your many wrongs to right ,then i said you are bullshit as well like some ignorant mullahs ,, thats why i also call you ignorant
@amirzubairmughal So what are you trying to suggest here? One should completely discard hadith? What is it that makes you "guided" and me an "ignorant"? Lets discuss this rationally here.
@IslamAhmadiya i m just saying leave out from this calling yourself sunni shai ,,or ahmadies ,, believe me i have many hadits where your mirza is nor a immam mehdi neither essa and rasool,, but here on this page i cant explain you,, nor i can conveince you ,,it is you yourself can go and check ,
@amirzubairmughal Well Holy Prophet (pbuh) himself said in his hadith that Muslims had to divide into 73 sects. Out of these 73 sects 1 SECT/JAMAAT had to be on the true path while the rest of Muslim sects had to be like JEWS. Holy Prophet never said that the true Jamaat wouldn't have a name. The name Ahmadiyya Jamaat is to distinguish us from others who also call themselves Muslims but their beliefs and acts are against the teachings of Islam. Distinction is very important.
@IslamAhmadiya you are big lier ,, jammat ahmadiya .. i listen many times your interpretation with that hadit, your interpretation is just for political gains , Prophet given his fallowers a name which is muslim,, only muslims ,when anyone try to join another name with muslims it is just for political gains ,, there was first sec in muslim history called shia , now too many even in shiaisim there are many sects now,, you are also one of them,,
@amirzubairmughal If our interpretation of Islam is for political gains, then we should have an interpretation that is acceptable to the MUSLIM MAJORITY. Think about it. It is amazing that we are ready to sacrifice our lives, wealth, honour and everything that is dear to us for the sake of "politics". Our mosques are being attacked, our members are killed, we are declared kafirs because we DON'T follow the ways of the MAJORITY. Those who have political gains go by the majority not against them!
@IslamAhmadiya your were seccesefull in india in british rule , your numbers were growing , you think about it ,, dont you think you are taking so long to realize others ,, mohumad( pbuh) was very succesfull only in 10 years teaching because Allah was with him(pbuh) ,, i think you should think about that Allah is not with you ,because you are not true muslim, i have 1000 hadits which proves your mirza wrong ,,but you dont want to listen that,
@amirzubairmughal At the time of Promised Messiah our presence was only in India. Today we have spread to the corners of the earth. At the time of Promised Messiah we were in thousands, today we are in millions. Our presence is in no less than 195 countries of the world. The rest of the Muslim groups are scattered without any worldwide leader, while it is only united Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam that is headed by worldwide Khalifa with the grace of Allah. It is very clear as to who is Allah with.
Will someone from Ahmadiyya or Muslims tell me as to what is the difference between them? If Ahmadiyya claim to be Muslims then why do they need their own Mosque? Why cannot they perform Islamic Prayers in any Mosque or Mosques of different Muslims are different? Do the 72 sects have 72 different Mosques? The man with a turban & beard looks more like a Sikh than a proverbial Arab, seems to vassilate avoiding answering simple question in yes or no. .
@amoralis123 I answered same question of yours about our mosques being seperate, sometime ago on my profile page. Please go and check it there. The answer has already been given. What were the questions asked in this video that apparently Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad (ATBA) answered them in "yes" or "no"? He is not an Arab so why should he "pretend" to be an Arab? He is the worldwide head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community leading people from all races and backgrounds including arabs.
Ahmadiyya people should not worry about Muslims and Islam. They should follow their own religion and follow their own tenets as prescribed by their prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. It is high time they should make their stands clear and should come out of this identity crisis (or the delibrate mask of being a Muslim). If they think that they are better than Muslims, my heartiest congratulations to them. Just a simple request, please do not introduce yourselves as Muslims.
Ahmadiyya people should not worry about Muslims and Islam. They should follow their own religion and follow their own tenets as prescribed by their prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. It is high time they should make their stands clear and should come out of this identity crisis (or the delibrate mask of being a Muslim). If they think that they are better than Muslims, my heartiest congratulations to them. Just a simple request, please do not introduce yourselves as Muslims.
ALL QADYANI BELIEVES IN HAZRAT MUHAMMAD PBUH ,HE NEVER SAID HIM SELF A GOD,NEITHER ALL THE PROPHETS.EVEN THEY HAVE MOJAZA WITH THEM .AS ALL KNOWS.AND IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMMON MAN AND PROPHET.
ALL MUSLIM KNOWS MUHAMMAMAD (PbUH)SAID,WHAT ALLAH TOLD HIM.OK
ONCE OUR PROPHET WAS ASKED A QUESTION ,AND HE JUST TOLD THAT :I WILL TELL YOU TOMMOROW;
ALLAH DIDNT LIKE THAT,AND DIDNT SENT WAHI,AND OUR PROPHET BECAME ANXIOUS,AND WAS THEN TOLD VIA HAZRAT JIBRAEEL(a.s) THAT HOW CAN U ANSWER SOME
MASHALLAH,,,,, nice clarification.. n no doubt we dun need any certificate from any mullah or any parliament,,,we consider ourselve muslim and we are happy that we are ahmadi muslim..
HAZRAT MUHAMMAD(SAW) ne jab nabuwwat ka dawa fermaya to HAZRAT ABU BAKAR (RA) ne without any doubt ap pr imaan laye,, aur SIDDIQ E AKBAR kehlaye, aur jo log aflas aur jhoot aur keena rkhte they wo abu jehal aur us k sathi kehlaye,,,
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Thats true. The one who doesn't believe Holy Prophet (pbuh) to be the Khataman Nabiyyeen can't be a Muslim. I hope you don't mean to say that Ahmadi Muslims don't consider Holy Prophet to be the Nabiyyeen, are you? Our interpretation of the term however differs from the mainstream Muslims of TODAY, but not necessarily scholars of the past.
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ I am not the one to "set" his status, it is Allah who does it. His status is the same as Allah has given him and Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had foretold about. What is the status you have in your mind for your understanding of "Jesus" who is returning again on earth?
@IslamAhmadiya beshak ALLAH set his status as kazzab and dajjal. And Muhammad SAWW also told us about kazzaboon and dajjaloon.
and Esa AS, atleast gulam ahmed is not Esa AS because Esa AS will come with his original face and name. he,ll fight with jews, kill dajjal, free jeroslum, and u ahmadies r the best friends of yahood o nsara. u read ahadees Nebvi Saww about fitnas ???
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Its very easy for me to remove your comments and block you permanently from my channel, so be careful when you address somebody I consider to be Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi in such disrespectful language. I won't tolerate this here. Now you call us best friends of Jews and Christians, but your beliefs give so much power to their arguments. You have kept Jesus alive with your beliefs but have kept Holy Prophet dead! You resemble so much with Jews: /watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo
@IslamAhmadiya because ALLAH told us in Quran that Esa AS doesn,t crosofied or murdered, ALLAH pick Esa AS alive and ALLAH will send him back. Prophet Muhammad SAWW died and go to heavens and it is truth and no resumblence with ur friends.
ur friends claimed that Esa AS crosofied.
except blocking me what else can u do? All prophets are nobels and pure and u must know what ur gulam ahmed said about Esa AS about his mother about her mother? You read AHadeeseNabvi about Fitnazz ? if not plz read
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Don't worry I won't block you as long as you remain decent. So you said Quran said that he was neither crucified nor murdered, but was picked up by Allah alive! I agree that he didn't die of his injuries on the cross (ie. wasn't crucified, but you can't say he was not even put on the cross) nor was he killed otherwise, but how can you rule his natural death much later on his life from that verse? Also where did Quran say that God lifted him up physically and bodily alive?...
...You also claimed that Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) nouzobillah insulted Prophet Jesus, his mother and grandmother. You are only repeating whatever your Mullah's have told you. The fact is that you have not done your own research yourself on the issue at all. Promised Messiah was answering Chirtian clergy who used the most filthy language for our Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Promised Messiah answered them by showing true picture of imaginary Jesus of THEIR UNDERSTANDING and not of Quran!
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ You can take things out of context and then give them the interpretation you want to give. Quran also states that one must not offer prayers. This is when we read the verse out of context. When we read the verse in the context we come to know that in a certain situation God forbids offering of prayer. You are doing the same thing. You are accusing Promised Messiah of something on the basis of your interpretation of his writing by taking things completely out of context.
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Paa ji, SSA, I am a SIKH, i study Islam and read Quran too. You will be very kind enough to name that book which you read. with that,I wish to believe, that your grand parents would have taught your parents that when addressing others, one have to address with respect, irrespective if we agree or not.SSA paa ji. I hope you will answerr me in civilized manners, and MORE OVER, wish to tell you, I am a PUNJABI, and use my language with great depth.
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Christians believe that Jesus was put on the cross and he died on it, our belief is that of Quran though. We believe that he was put on the cross but he didn't die of his injuries. God saved him from this accursed death on the cross. He later migrated from that land of oppressors towards the EAST. Our belief actually breaks the very foundations of modern Christianity. Your belief however makes Jesus alive, but makes Holy Prophet dead. You help the cause of Christians!
@IslamAhmadiya so what ager AAP SAWW wisal ferma chuke hain or Esa AS zinda hain tu iss main kia msla hai janab ?
Aap SAWW ne fermaya hai k mujhe yahood o nsara ki terha kha-mukha na berhana.
or ager Esa AS zinda hain tu iss main Aap Saww ki gustakhi kahan nikel rahi hai, meri jan wo Nabi e Pak Saww k ummeti ben ker aayen ga. Aik nimaz wo ummeti k peecha perhain ga. Aap ko ye leg raha hai k iss se christians ki help hoti hai lakin mera khayal hai k un ka RED hota hai.
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ You can write very good English, I would like you to discuss this in English with me as other people can benefit from our discussion too. 1. First of all where does Quran say that Jesus is alive? 2. Now you said that how is the belief that Jesus was ascended to heaven helps the cause of Christians. If you read the history of subcontinent at the time of Promised Messiah, you will see that Muslims were turning into Christianity because of this belief and this verse of Quran...
...in which disbelievers demanded from Holy Prophet to ASCEND TO HEAVEN and the response of Holy Prophet recorded by Quran is that Holy is Allah from these things and that I AM ONLY A MESSENGER. So if HProphet can't ascend being a human, but Jesus can who does it help? [17:93/94] ‘Or thou have a house of gold or thou ASCEND UP INTO HEAVEN; and we will not believe in thy ascension until thou send down to us a book that we can read.’ Say, ‘Holy is my Lord! I am not but a man sent as a Messenger.’
@BIGKafarAhmadiya :The Holy prophet Muhammed SAW has said: ‘Verily thirty Liars will be born in my Ummah; every one of them will claim to be a prophet, though I am the last prophet, and there will be no Prophet after me.’ (Jami Tirmidhi no 2145/ Sahih Muslim vol2, p248) Gulam Qadayani was Dajal Kafar & One Liar in this Ummah
@KafarAhmadiya :The Holy prophet Muhammed SAW has said: ‘Verily thirty Liars will be born in my Ummah; every one of them will claim to be a prophet, though I am the last prophet, and there will be no Prophet after me.’ (Jami Tirmidhi no 2145/ Sahih Muslim vol2, p248) Gulam Qadayani was Dajal Kafar & One Liar in this Ummah
if our goverment people are true then I dare them to publish the 1974 assmbley report for people of pakistan to see what jamat e ahmaddiya said and what they said i mean in camera session then we will see the real face of mullas are thay brave & honest enough are u people brave & honest enough to tell the goverment of pakistan to do that I AM 20000% sure that no disscussion will be needed after that .hey himmat tu chapoo woh report.ISLAM AHMADDIAT PHOLE GI OR PHALE GI OR TUM NAMURAD HO GE.
Qadiyanis It is best for you to declare yourself non-muslims and go your own way. Invent your new holy book, invent your new messengers.. do whatever you want to, just leave the Islam pure, don't stain our Holy Quran with your dirty mind and thinking and your ever new ways of bid'ah and silly innovation! May Allah guide you to the right path as shown by Holy Quran and Hadith.
@mfadij Watch this youtube video in which non-Ahmadis (one of them a staunch enemy of Ahmadiyyat) are talking about the character of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as): /watch?v=wVOMV7vDFck
Look how Allah makes the truth come out from the mouths of even the enemies. Your cheap effort to twist the facts has done you no good.
@IslamAhmadiya@JBEragon178 YOU guys are enemy within.More dangerous than the Western hegemonic power.Ahmadiyas father are the colonial British and the war monger Americans .YOU love them, to us they are STATE TERRORISTS. Today they are responsible for the sufferings of our Palestinian brothers.And they are your friends , bastards. No bastard Punjabi can be a prophet.MIRZA was a British implant. Got the answer.
@nemah173 talking to them is like ,bhens ke age been bajana.they just do that to provoke ahmadis but .galian sun ker dua du pake dukh araam du.this is the diffrence between them & us.AHMADDIAT ZINDABAD
Please don not say yourself Ahmadis,,,but Qadiyanis...Ahmad is a scared name......And also please stop propagendas against Islamis scholars and ulemas.........Try to respect them...........You still have time to accept Islam ,before it become so late.....Think this my Qadiyanis friends.!!!!
@3zulfar Do you know, enemies of Holy Prophet also didn't like the word Muslim for the Muslims. They used to call Holy Prophet and his followers as "Sabis". So you are not new in your demands. Holy Prophet himself declared the so called ulema of today as the "worst creatures under the heavens". Why don't you first demand Holy Prophet to give respect to these "ulemas". I would rather advise you to respect Holy Prophet and Allah Almighty. By the way I am showing the true picture of your "ulema"!
@IslamAhmadiya the Islam doesn't spread far and greater by tell the truth and showing their real faces but by telling them the significance of Islam and Allah almighty and the one who will do this will be punished because it is a human nature if i am going tell your ulemas LIAR BASTARD OR SOMETHING BAD you will going to hate me and even in return you will say me bad
@faizan2012flow The Holy Prophet (pbuh) declared the so called ulema of today as "Sharro man tahta adeemis Samaa" (worst creatures under the skies). These were the words of Holy Prophet and not ours. Those who exploit Islam for their own agendas and misguide all those who follow them must be exposed for the sake of the peace of societies. Even Quran exposes the Munafiqeen. Anyway, I think you don't know the background of this response by Khalifatul Masih. Watch this: /watch?v=lTKQHbW3bg0
@IslamAhmadiya@JBEragon178 YOU guys are enemy within.More dangerous than the Western hegemonic power.Ahmadiyas father are the colonial British and the war monger Americans .YOU love them, to us they are STATE TERRORISTS. Today they are responsible for the sufferings of our Palestinian brothers.And they are your friends , bastards. No bastard Punjabi can be a prophet.MIRZA was a British implant. Got the answer.
Primarily, the fundamental belief in Allah Taaala is denied by the founder of Qadiyanis (Dajjal Mirza Ghulam Qadiyani kathab) through his false claim of being God when he stated I saw in one of my revelations (Kashf) that I was God and I therefore believe that I am God. (Nau-thu-billah) (In Qadiyani Book, Ruhani Khazain, vol 13, p103)
@Oo786oO: I received your e-mail, I don't have the time to locate your message here., so I am writing one anew. You have accused me of deleting your post, I surmise you are accusing me of being IslamAhmadiya, posting with a pseudonym. Let me assure you that I am not Islamahmadiya nor I am an Ahmadi. You however sir ,are against not just Ahmadis but a rational thought process.
Why are you falsy accusing me of something? I cannot remember ever emailing anyone by the name of karachishaher. Also i didn't; accuse anyone of deleting any of my posts. Nor did i say you are an ahmadi. Basically everything you stated associated with me seems to be a lie, unless that message which says @Oo786oO at the start is not directed to me...
IslamAhmadiya, Could you provide a list of all the leaders of your community all the way back. What time period they served in and relationship to each other, if any. Thanks.
@karachishaher Assalamu Alaikum brother, The Promised Messiah (as) passed away in 1908. Since his demise, Khilafat (that we consider to be revival of true Khilafat-e-Rashida in Islam) has been leading the worldwide Ahmadiyya Jamaat. A Khalifa is the worldwide spiritual leader of the community until his demise. We are headed by fifth Khalifa of the Promised Messiah today with the grace of Allah. First Khalifa was not physically related to Promised Messiah, however the rest have been so far...
...this however should be noted that Ahmadi Muslims don't consider any physical relationship to be of the reason as to why Allah chooses somebody as the Khalifa from the hands of those who elect him rather Allah chooses the one who is the most pious and righteous in His eyes. Brother if you want more information on Khilafa-e-Ahmadiyya, go to the following link (without spaces ofcourse): a l i s l a m . o r g / t o p i c s / k h i l a f a t/
@IslamAhmadiya Thanks for the info. I do have one more question. I recall seeing an old picture of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the name was inscribed on the picture itself in Urdu/Persian. It read "Meerza", which is short for "Meer-zadeh", more or less meaning a "Syed" in our society, was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from a Syed family?
@karachishaher No brother, Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) came from persian descent. Holy Prophet (pbuh) actually prophecied that the coming Mahdi would be from among them when he put his hands on the shoulders of Salman The Persian (ra) and said that even if the faith would have ascended to the heavens, a person (or a group) from among them would bring it back to the earth. Please let me thank you for the decency and honesty you have shown so far commenting under this video. Wassalam
Na Sunni , Na Shiya , Na Mirzai , Na Barelvi , Na Ahmadi , Na Wahabi , Na Punjabi , Na Sindhi , Pehlay Insaan , Phir Musalmaan Or phir Pakistan " Yehi Hai Meri Pehchaan '" .
@danapane Assalamu Alaikum brother, You are most welcome to clear any misconceptions that you might have about Ahmadiyya. Please feel free to ask any questions that agitate your mind regarding our faith. Wassalam.
I m not an Ahmadi. @ of my best friends are Ahmadis. They say that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was imam mehdi and the last Prphet is Muhammad s.a.w. If this is true then y r u guys labeled as non Muslims and thought not to believe in Muhammad s.a.w as the last messenger?
@LaraAkram Brother this is the kind of false propaganda the Mullahs want to spread. They are actually worried and concerned about their own material agendas and for that they see their worldly "authorities" being threatened by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. The truth is that they themselves preach about the coming of Jesus the Prophet of Allah AFTER Holy Prophet. They don't see any problem in "Khatme Nabuwwat" there. The only difference we have with them about the coming Messiah is of identity.
This is not the true islam which ahmadi are spreading. these are surely non muslims. be aware of these deceivers which are like a snake. come to true islam of Muhammad PBUH. their prophet ghulam ahmad qadyani died on the human excreta.
@saqib1932 Your comments show extreme prejudice and nothing else. What is it in Ahmadiyyat that is unIslamic? Lets discuss this rationally and in an unbiased proper way. As for your ignorant comment about the falsely propagated "accursed" death of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Promised Messiah), don't forget that Jews also claim that Jesus (First Messiah) died an accursed death. Holy Prophet prophecied about this resemblance between Muslims of today with Jews of Jesus' time. Fear Allah!
@ikram310 "Read page 56 and see your jamaat's hypocricy." Yep you are a 100% thicko... you have just confirmed that. As you are a retard and not able to read and understand more than 3 words put together I will point you to page 60, go and read the explanation, as what you are reading on page 56 clearly says "Alleged Innovations". Do you know the meaning of "Alleged"? Should I explain?
@ikram310 ok... so you are telling me something i already know.. and as usual for a dumb fuck like you, you take a document.... go streight to page 56 and take everything out of context... as I said already, you are too thick too read let alone understand islam. And just to make it clear... you ARE A KAFIR!!!
Beautiful. I was expecting such a response from yourself, why? because i know when truth hits falsehood, it knockes its brains out! Rather than bringing along proof and rational statements, you bring along insults (Brainwashed) and insults (crazy), and you bring along false assumptions "uneducated". Also i find your initial two words rather amusing (blah blah) Peace.
It is quite clear that both the Ahmadis as well as the majority sect agree that they belong to different "Deens". The issue is therefore basically one of semantics and not theology.
The issue is, does the majority sect have exclusive right to the word "Muslim", let us discuss this issue fairly and rationally.
More importantly, even if you don't respect a religion, you still have to respect somebody's right to follow that religion.
@trueislam26 We don't negotiate with terrorists, anyway beta you must have heard this a thousand times before so here it is again : who the gave you the authority to decide who is or isn't a Muslim? Just because you don't understand Islam doesn't mean you can judge anyone else. You and your views are irrelevant.
One person announce that he is selling Pork's flesh and sell it is not dangerous but another who declare that he is selling Cow's flesh and actually sell pork is most dangerous and Ahmadis are such dangerous and guding innocent people to hell fire. Beaware of this Fitna and just read Quran mirza qadian is neither prophet nor mehdi or messiah he was just a normal man and nothing else
@rusher80 Just making such claims wouldn't change the facts. Where is the proof of your comments? What is it that Ahmadis believe in and that is against the teachings of Quran and Holy Prophet (pbuh)? Also your statement that Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (as) was not Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah is just plain hollow. Afterall majority of the world even considers Holy Prophet as a "normal man" and not a prophet of Allah. Does that change the facts?
Mansoor, How old are you? Did you take permission from your parents to use the computer? This is the kind of attitude of some Muslims today that defames the very name of Islam. For once try to ponder over your attitude and see if there is anything in similar in your character and the Holy character of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who you associate yourself with? If you have even slightest of Taqwah left in your heart, you will be ashamed of your character and seek forgiveness from Allah.
@Oo786oO You are right. What is in Ahmadiyyat that you feel is against the Haq (truth)? We can discuss it in detail rationally and in an ubiased honest way. Wassalam
The Qu'ran explicitly states that Muhammad peace be upon him was the "Seal of the prophets". What does this mean? If you look into arabic linguistics the word Nabi can encompas rasul also, which means messenger. So for a being to be a messenger he MUST be a nabi, or else his claim is false. The fact that the Quran mentions Muhammad as the final nabi suggest that anyone that claims to have come with a new message needs a psychiatrist. Hence why I reject Ahmadiya.
@Oo786oO You are discussing an irrelevant issue, from my interpretation, Ahmadis also believe that Mohommad (PBUH) is the last prophet, at least so far. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is a reincarnation on Jesus, therefore he came before Mohommad, therefore Mohommad (PBUH) being the last prophet is not a point of contention between Ahmadis and the main-stream masses.
@karachishaher Assalamu Alaikum brother, I must thankyou for your decency first. You are right brother that we consider Holy Prophet (PBUH) as the last law-bearing prophet. We don't however believe in the concept of re-incarnation. The one who dies never comes back to this life again. We believe that Jesus (as) has passed away like all the past prophets of God who were all human beings. Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is a subordinate prophet of Holy Prophet within Islam to revive its teachings.
...so Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) was a non-law bearing prophet whose purpose of coming in this age was to revive the true spirit and essence of Islam. He is not the same old Jesus of Nazareth, rather he has come in the character and likeness of Jesus. Just like Jesus came as a prophet for Jews to revive the true essence of Judaism, Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) has come in his character within Islam in this age to revive the true essence of Islam. Wassalam
@IslamAhmadiyya Salami am not very familiar with Ahmadiyya,but reading your comment a question came to my mind,If Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam subordinate of Prophet,Why it is not mention in Muslims Books ?
@TRUTHvsDECEPTION Walaikumus Salam. The possibility of prophethood within Islam in subordination of Holy Prophet is not only mentioned in earlier ordinary Islamic literature but also in Holy Quran and Ahadith of Holy Prophet (PBUH). Infact Holy Prophet himself declared the coming Messiah and Imam Mahdi a "Khalifatullah" (Allah's Khalifa/Prophet) and "Nabiullah". So it is only the prophethood outside the subordination of Holy Prophet that has been closed till the Doomsday by God Almighty.
@TRUTHvsDECEPTION Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah are the two titles of the same one person according to the words of Holy Prophet (pbuh). Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is both the Imam Mahdi, and Promised Messiah.
@TRUTHvsDECEPTION Brother as I said earlier, as Ahmadi Muslims we believe that Jesus of Nazareth (as) is dead like all other prophets. He was only Messiah and Prophet for the Jews of his time. The Promised Messiah who was prophecied by Holy Prophet in Islam actually is "Jesus" in a metaphorical sense and not literal. When Holy Prophet likened the condition of Muslims of today with that of Jews of the time of Jesus then the remedy of Muslims had to be through somebody in likeness of Jesus.
@IslamAhmadiya brother,Allah [swr] clearly stated, the only deen is islam and any one who seeks deen other than islam will not be accepted. Al e Imran.Another ayat states in black in whites that . any one who follows the path which is other than mainstream belivers way .we shall turn them to the hell . So plz leave islamahmadiat and come to the real one & only Islam of Muammad Arabi [saw].
@5663668 Brother when did we seek religion other than Islam for ourselves? This is what we have been trying to always say. What is it that we believe in goes against the teachings of Quran and Holy Prophet? It is infact the non-Ahmadi "mainstream" Muslims who are adamant in taking our rights away from even professing the basic Islamic creed (Kalima). Where does Quran say that you must follow the "mainstream" (majority)? Infact I have the verse in mind that says complete the opposite.
First of all you must understand what reincarnation means. This is not an Islamic principle at all, it is a hindu principle and a christian principle, so by its very basis it is flawed. According to Islam Isa will return in his own body, not as a reincarnated being. ALso the fact ahmadiya originates from India suggests where it as a religion could have obtained reincarnation from.
@Oo786oO Just wanted to clarify here that the concept of Reincarnation is NOT the belief of Ahmadi Muslims. This point was also mentioned by IslamAhmadiya, perhaps you missed it.
@Oo786oO I would concede that point about reincarnation, particularly because IslamaAhmadiya has clarified that it is not a part of their doctrine. However, your tone does not suggest a rational mind. Mind is like a parachute, it only works when it is open.
@Oo786oO According to the very words of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah (in the likeness of Jesus) had to be two titles of one and the same person. One of such ahadith is recorded in Ibne Maja: "LAl-Mahdi'o Illa Eesa" Translation: There is no Al-Mahdi except Esa (that is Promised Messiah).
@Oo786oO Ahmadiyya Muslims certainly do not believe in the concept of re-incarnation. Actually this is the kind of propaganda that the Mullahs of today want to spread and spread. Mullahs want to potray our faith in an ugly way, just like some anti-Muslim clergy wants to potray the teachings of Islam in an ugly way. We believe Jesus (as) to be dead like all other prophets, so he can never come back to this world. Promised Messiah is actually "Jesus" only in his likeness with him. Thats all.
ikram, You have not responded to my question. What is the verdict of Quran on somebody who rejects a true prophet of God? Question is simple and I want a straigtforward answer. Stop beating behind the bush.
ikram, First of all you have taken the excerpts out of context, but even if they weren't, I would like to ask you as to what is the Quranic verdict on a person who rejects a true prophet of Allah? This is a simple question, I need a clear answer in the light of Holy Quran.
And now that you have said it, say it out right like you were advocating for it; because you have a tendency to change your stand. Say this : nooruddin was the fifth khalifa after the four Rashidun khaliphs, he was the fifth khalifa who was supposed to come after a GAP.
You change your stand and it will take this debate nowhere. Also, since the family of golam is running the show, you sure no other prophets will come? Cause the sons are coming...
saudali25, All the first four Khalifas of Holy Prophet were related to Holy Prophet in one way or the other. Also non-Ahmadis even believe that the "Imam Mahdi" would also be from Holy Prophet's physical progeny. Does that mean that it was Holy Prophet's family that was running the show and continue to run the show till the Doomsday? So for once come out of your hypocrisy and try to see the facts without the spectacles of prejudice. The very fact that first Khalifa of Promised Messiah was not...
...from his family shows that Khilafat has got nothing to do with physical relationship. With the grace of Allah the way Ahmadiyyat under rightly guided Khilafat continues to flourish and prosper and the enemies of Ahmadiyyat continue to get frustrated shows the Divine succor with this Khilafat. Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih Awwal (RA) is the fifth Khalifa of Holy Prophet in the sense that his Khilafat was established in the same way as the first Khilafat after Holy Prophet and was connected...
...to that Khilfat-e-Rashida of Holy Prophet that was based on Nabuwwat. However in one way even Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah is the Khalifa of Holy Prohet but his Khilafat differs from other Khalifas of the past in the sense that he was also honoured with the title of Prophethood. So in this way, Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih Awwal (RA) and Khulafa-e-Ahmadiyyat become the Khulafa like the Khulafa-e-Rashideen of Holy Prophet in exact same way.
After nooruddin the ahmediya split into two fractions. Was it because mehmood ahmed was selected as khalifa while he was in his early 20s and the others were much older than him? He was considered as "pisr-e-maood" (promised SON!) and the others were ONLY righteous and not the son? And since mahmood, no outsiders has made it to the khilafat? Why a promised SON and not promised khalifa?
saudali25, You have no knowledge of the history of Ahmadiyyat. Hadhrat Mirza Mirza Bashirud din Mahmood Ahmad (RA) wasn't elected because he was "pisre-Maood" or "Musleh Maood". There was an election that took place and he was elected. There was no campaign as such in his favour before the election that he was pisre maood so he should be the Khalifa. Once he was elected as the Khalifa, those who thought themselves to be the most righteous and able to be Khalifa came out with their true colours..
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syedyasiralikazmi 4 months ago
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Qadianism (“Ahmadism”) is pseudo religion whose leadership exploits its members socially, psychologically and financially. The leaders of this cult have been able to maintain their hegemony over their ordinary members through treachery, plagiarism, cruel and inhuman discipline. This cult aims to steal the identity of Islam by misinterpreting the original sources of Islam.
syedyasiralikazmi 4 months ago
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Assalam o Alaikum !!!
The followers of mirza laeen are trying to catch fish by defrauding, you the followers of mirze laeen will go to Hell. Insha'Allah.
ShanZeize 5 months ago
Why the hell do these non- ahmadis come here for just to write bad comments and show what kind of stupid people they are???
Zakiables123456 5 months ago
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Muhammad SAW said: These mullahs are the worst creation in the world and under the sky.
kjkansari 6 months ago
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Muhammad SAW said: These mullahs are the worst creation in the world and under the sky.
kjkansari 6 months ago
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Ghulam Ahmed means Ahmed ka ghulam . Khuda ne jitne bhi peghamber bheje sabh ka martaba Khandan aur naam se buland rakha jis mein us k nabi ko nicha sabit na kia ja sake but ye to nam se he ghulam hy aur Ahmed ka ghulam . he can never be a prophet . and if he tried to spread the teachings of Quran then billions of Muslims already doing that and they never claim to be a prophet .
waqasidrees100 6 months ago
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coca kola ka chamha,,,
karachi6590 7 months ago
coca kola ka chamha
karachi6590 7 months ago
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jahnm main alaa mokam hasil kary ga ,,,,,,,
karachi6590 7 months ago
jahnm main alaa tutbaa hasil kary ga ,,,,,,,
karachi6590 7 months ago
True......
yasirhayat71 8 months ago
Some of our brothers think calling names n cursing others beliefs is right but wen some one else does it to us it's tauheen e risaalat. If u don't show respect how do h expect respect. Beating women n treating them as second class citizens isn't Islam. Stop lockin ur women in the house. Stop asking for dawry. Please jz b muslims
kamina77 9 months ago
Sunni , Ahmadi , Shia etc. Get over it. Only name that we r prescribed by god n the prophet (p.b.u.h) is muslim. Creating devisions n subdivisions is a sin. Just Muslim. Can we just try being Muslims 1st. Rest is all crap . Please just identify urselves as Muslims. N stop this devisions.
kamina77 9 months ago
@abcdefgh12374 Amazing comment! The truth is that members of Ahmadiyya Jamaat actually pay at least 1/16th of everything that they possess for the sake of Allah and His religion Islam. We sacrifice our lives, wealth, time, children, and everything that is dear to us for the sake of Allah because this is what Islam teaches us. It is your Mullahs who have destroyed the peace of thousands of people in the name of Islam for the sake of few pennies! May Allah protect everyone from their sharr.
IslamAhmadiya 9 months ago
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these ahmadiyya are the ones who have gone astray, they not muslims end of.
511waseemaslam 10 months ago
Ahmadi logon nay khud, balkay Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani nay Muhammad ki Touheen ki, khudd ko Nabi kah kr. Ahmadi are ahmadi they are not Muslims anyway, becoz aap Quran say Ziyadah Mirza ki kitabon per amel kartay hain. jhoot boollo ji bhar ky.
billibilli1 11 months ago
@billibilli1 Do you even know what kind of Prophethood did Promised Messiah claime himself to be? Let me write a few urdu couplets of Promised Messiah here: "Har taraf fikr ko dora kay thakaaya ham nay...koi deeN deenay Muhammad sa naa paayaa ham nay. Mustafa par tera behad ho salaam aur rahmat...uss say ye noor baar-e-Khudaaya ham nay." Books of Promised Messiah are nothing but the explanation of Quran and hadith. For once research the teachings of Jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya with pure heart.
IslamAhmadiya 11 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya Jhotti Kahaniyan Kabhi Sach nahin Ho saktin
billibilli1 10 months ago 2
@billibilli1 Which "false stories" are you talking about? Hatoo Burhanakum (bring your proof) if you are truthful. Don't just come here with big claims without any Quranic evidence to support your claims. If you want to discuss something with me here, discuss it in a polite and rational way. If you can't do that then I don't like wasting my time and faith in useless talk.
IslamAhmadiya 10 months ago
@billibilli1 You should do proper unbiased research on the issue before coming up with these ignorant comments. Have you ever read a single book written by the Promised Messiah (as)? Had you ever done that, you would know that the writings of Promised Messiah are nothing but the explanation of Quran and hadith. Promised Messiah says in one : "Uss noor (Prophet Muhammad) par fida hooN, uss kaa hee maiN hua hooN...Woh hay, main cheez kia hooN, bass faisla yahi hay" Pls. do humble research.
IslamAhmadiya 8 months ago
@billibilli1 aap ko bohat bari ghalat fehmi hai main qasam khata hun ye sub hamaray khilaf propaganda hai...main ALLAH ko hazir jan k kehta hun Muhammad (s.a.w) ALLAH k AAKHRI NABI HAIN..... or ye yad rakhna k mirza sahab ki ek bat bhi quran se hat kar nahin..
GundaaBachaa 7 months ago
Soon you will know Who is on right Path... Inshallah... that is the Promise of Allah..
Ahmadiyya Jammat is KAFFIR.. and declared by ULMA E ISLAM..
sitamho 11 months ago
Ahmediii kutay malaun tummm Akhri nabi Hazrat Muhammad SAw ko nahi mantay aur tum KAFIR HOO K A F I R HOOOO ....
sitamho 11 months ago
@sitamho This is the kind of language that you speak and then dare to associate yourself with the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). On top of that you then have the audacity to call us Kafirs. I would respond to your ignorant comment in Persian words of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as): "Ba'daz Khuda ba'isqe Muhammad mukhammaram...gar Kufr eeN bawad, baKhuda sakht Kafirum." (I am intoxicated in the love of Muhammad sallalahu alaihe wasallam after Allah. If this is kufr then by God I am biggest Kafir)
IslamAhmadiya 11 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya
KAFIR HO TUM .... marzai deviated from right path ... ahmed mirza got pregnant ??? hahaha what a foolish person he is... saying every thing from himself... i read his book... he is saying masiah himself.... i think u dont know his criminal back ground?? do u ? please return to correct and rightious path... refer ur self to Quraan And hadith sahi.... he says himself prophet ??/ in quran it is said that no prophet after Muhammas S.A.W ...
sitamho 11 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya
dont go blind in love of Ahmed mirza qadiani go and read Quran first .........
sitamho 11 months ago
@sitamho Ap ke kehne se na to kabhi koi musalman hoga na hi kafir. Kaun musalman hai aur kaun nahin hai yeh Allah pe chor de te hain.
Jahan tak baat hai Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki, ham unko bilkul Khatam-un-Nabiyeen mante hain. Ab agar ap ki kam akal aur kam ilm unko "AKHRI" nabi samaj ta hai to woh ap ka kusoor hai na ke hamara. Qur'an mein kahin nahin uno akhri kaha gaya, Arabic mein Khatam ka matlab harkis akhri nahin hota. Apne mullah se kahen ke pehle Arabic to sikh lein phir behes karein.
dotwaheed 11 months ago
@sitamho
fail!
ha ha
u guys can never defeat oss! didnt u have any thing else too say.
usman1995ful 8 months ago
First answer my question; How funny it is; when you don't believe that he was the last Messenger of ALLAH, then how come you believe Aap (SAW) hadith is a certificate for you.
Colli74 11 months ago
@Colli74 When Holy Prophet never declared himself to be the last prophet of all kinds, then why should we believe as such? Holy Quran and the words of Holy Prophet (pbuh) inform us that Holy Prophet is the last law bearing prophet and the Khataman Nabiyyeen (best of all prophets), however prophethood within Islam in subordination of Holy Prophet's prophethood for the purpose of Islam's revival in this age is in complete line with Islamic teachings. Why should we believe otherwise?
IslamAhmadiya 11 months ago
You ahmadi quoting two Hadith in context of a certificate from our Beloved Prophet Hazarat Muhammad Mustafa (SAW) that you are muslim (ALLAH Forbidden).
How funny it is; when you don't believe that he was the last Messenger of ALLAH, then how come you believe Aap (SAW) hadith is a certificate for you.
Go & check numbers of Sahih Hadith in which Aap (SAW) says he is the last messenger & if anyone denies it will be no more muslims.
ALLAH tum logoon ko hidayat daay!
Colli74 11 months ago
@Colli74 If Holy Prophet really said that no prophet of any kind (even non-law bearing prophet within his ummah in his subordination) could come after him then explain this hadith: "Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me except if there happens to be a prophet." (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138)? Also explain to me why are the non-Ahmadi Muslims waiting for the coming of PROPHET JESUS AFTER HOLY PROPHET if no prophet of anykind can ever come now? Stop this hypocrisy and fear Allah.
IslamAhmadiya 11 months ago
no quotation of hadit,,just trying to make fools to innocent people,,
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
@amirzubairmughal Fear Allah.You didn't like the hadith so you just assumed that Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad (ATBA) is deceiving people by making it up? This is the reference for you: Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever prays like us and faces our Quibla and eats our slaughtered animals is a Muslim and is under Allah's and His Apostle's protection. So do not betray Allah by betraying those who are in His protection." (Bukhari Book Salat 8:386). Seek forgiveness from Allah!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya hai dont try to black mail me,, you fear Allah not me,, i asked ? when you go to toilet do you prefer to sit or stand for pissing (what islam says),, tell me about that question ?
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
@amirzubairmughal Okay don't fear Allah. What is the point of that question. Ask the follow up question that you have in mind and I will answer you then.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
now listen why i m asking the question that what is best to piss for muslim,, because i have sahi hadits in which Mohummad(pbuh) pissing the urine in both ways(sit and stand) in a sahi hadit he also prefer standing rather then to site ,,but we know if we sit then more chances of purity,, now you can ask hadit numbers ,but will you change your mind,, look i hate those who use hadits to proves their wrongs into right ,same what qadiyanies does even many sunni muslims,, i will say bulshit
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
@amirzubairmughal First you say no quotation for the hadith, so it must be wrong. Once quotation is given to you, anyone who uses hadith for explaining Islam becomes hate worthy in your eyes. Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam always takes Quran as the first source of guidance and considers hadith and sunnah of beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) very important. We however don't accept any so called hadith that contradicts Quran. Word of Quran and word of Holy Prophet according to us can never contradict.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya if i qoute some hadits contradicts with each other even with Quran and sahi hadits will you change your mind no, because its all about politics like some ignorant mullahs ,,you ahmadies and ignorant mullah will be in same line in hearafter,,
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
@amirzubairmughal Our answer is very simple. Quran comes first. Anything that contradicts Quran can't be true. Hadith has to be read and understood in light of Quranic teachings. Holy Prophet could never say anything that would contradict Quran. This is how you distinguish authentic hadith from fabricated one. Once again, you are passing judgements on our end in hereafter. Leave such matters to God alone and worry about your own end before passing judgements on others.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya before you said hadits can naver contradicts each other well it is good if you accept that,,yes Any Hadit which goes against Quran you have right to reject that Hadit ,, now when you shows many hadits which might be similar to Quran where you proves your many wrongs to right ,then i said you are bullshit as well like some ignorant mullahs ,, thats why i also call you ignorant
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
@amirzubairmughal So what are you trying to suggest here? One should completely discard hadith? What is it that makes you "guided" and me an "ignorant"? Lets discuss this rationally here.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya i m just saying leave out from this calling yourself sunni shai ,,or ahmadies ,, believe me i have many hadits where your mirza is nor a immam mehdi neither essa and rasool,, but here on this page i cant explain you,, nor i can conveince you ,,it is you yourself can go and check ,
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
@amirzubairmughal Well Holy Prophet (pbuh) himself said in his hadith that Muslims had to divide into 73 sects. Out of these 73 sects 1 SECT/JAMAAT had to be on the true path while the rest of Muslim sects had to be like JEWS. Holy Prophet never said that the true Jamaat wouldn't have a name. The name Ahmadiyya Jamaat is to distinguish us from others who also call themselves Muslims but their beliefs and acts are against the teachings of Islam. Distinction is very important.
IslamAhmadiya 11 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya you are big lier ,, jammat ahmadiya .. i listen many times your interpretation with that hadit, your interpretation is just for political gains , Prophet given his fallowers a name which is muslim,, only muslims ,when anyone try to join another name with muslims it is just for political gains ,, there was first sec in muslim history called shia , now too many even in shiaisim there are many sects now,, you are also one of them,,
amirzubairmughal 11 months ago
@amirzubairmughal If our interpretation of Islam is for political gains, then we should have an interpretation that is acceptable to the MUSLIM MAJORITY. Think about it. It is amazing that we are ready to sacrifice our lives, wealth, honour and everything that is dear to us for the sake of "politics". Our mosques are being attacked, our members are killed, we are declared kafirs because we DON'T follow the ways of the MAJORITY. Those who have political gains go by the majority not against them!
IslamAhmadiya 11 months ago
@IslamAhmadiya your were seccesefull in india in british rule , your numbers were growing , you think about it ,, dont you think you are taking so long to realize others ,, mohumad( pbuh) was very succesfull only in 10 years teaching because Allah was with him(pbuh) ,, i think you should think about that Allah is not with you ,because you are not true muslim, i have 1000 hadits which proves your mirza wrong ,,but you dont want to listen that,
amirzubairmughal 11 months ago
@amirzubairmughal At the time of Promised Messiah our presence was only in India. Today we have spread to the corners of the earth. At the time of Promised Messiah we were in thousands, today we are in millions. Our presence is in no less than 195 countries of the world. The rest of the Muslim groups are scattered without any worldwide leader, while it is only united Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Islam that is headed by worldwide Khalifa with the grace of Allah. It is very clear as to who is Allah with.
IslamAhmadiya 11 months ago
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MASHALLAH,,,,,........ jamat ahmadiyya zindabad.
we are happy that we are ahmadi muslim..
fahadbajwa1 1 year ago
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MASHALLAH,,,,,........ jamat ahmadiyya zindabad.
we are happy that we are ahmadi muslim..
fahadbajwa1 1 year ago
Will someone from Ahmadiyya or Muslims tell me as to what is the difference between them? If Ahmadiyya claim to be Muslims then why do they need their own Mosque? Why cannot they perform Islamic Prayers in any Mosque or Mosques of different Muslims are different? Do the 72 sects have 72 different Mosques? The man with a turban & beard looks more like a Sikh than a proverbial Arab, seems to vassilate avoiding answering simple question in yes or no. .
amoralis123 1 year ago
@amoralis123 I answered same question of yours about our mosques being seperate, sometime ago on my profile page. Please go and check it there. The answer has already been given. What were the questions asked in this video that apparently Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad (ATBA) answered them in "yes" or "no"? He is not an Arab so why should he "pretend" to be an Arab? He is the worldwide head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community leading people from all races and backgrounds including arabs.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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Ahmadiyya people should not worry about Muslims and Islam. They should follow their own religion and follow their own tenets as prescribed by their prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. It is high time they should make their stands clear and should come out of this identity crisis (or the delibrate mask of being a Muslim). If they think that they are better than Muslims, my heartiest congratulations to them. Just a simple request, please do not introduce yourselves as Muslims.
B0018590 1 year ago
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Ahmadiyya people should not worry about Muslims and Islam. They should follow their own religion and follow their own tenets as prescribed by their prophet Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. It is high time they should make their stands clear and should come out of this identity crisis (or the delibrate mask of being a Muslim). If they think that they are better than Muslims, my heartiest congratulations to them. Just a simple request, please do not introduce yourselves as Muslims.
B0018590 1 year ago
ALL QADYANI BELIEVES IN HAZRAT MUHAMMAD PBUH ,HE NEVER SAID HIM SELF A GOD,NEITHER ALL THE PROPHETS.EVEN THEY HAVE MOJAZA WITH THEM .AS ALL KNOWS.AND IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMMON MAN AND PROPHET.
ALL MUSLIM KNOWS MUHAMMAMAD (PbUH)SAID,WHAT ALLAH TOLD HIM.OK
ONCE OUR PROPHET WAS ASKED A QUESTION ,AND HE JUST TOLD THAT :I WILL TELL YOU TOMMOROW;
ALLAH DIDNT LIKE THAT,AND DIDNT SENT WAHI,AND OUR PROPHET BECAME ANXIOUS,AND WAS THEN TOLD VIA HAZRAT JIBRAEEL(a.s) THAT HOW CAN U ANSWER SOME
aup83 1 year ago
@aup83 I don't understand the point of your question. Can you kindly elaborate on it further?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
MASHALLAH,,,,, nice clarification.. n no doubt we dun need any certificate from any mullah or any parliament,,,we consider ourselve muslim and we are happy that we are ahmadi muslim..
HAZRAT MUHAMMAD(SAW) ne jab nabuwwat ka dawa fermaya to HAZRAT ABU BAKAR (RA) ne without any doubt ap pr imaan laye,, aur SIDDIQ E AKBAR kehlaye, aur jo log aflas aur jhoot aur keena rkhte they wo abu jehal aur us k sathi kehlaye,,,
Ahaahmadi 1 year ago
muslman kon ? mukhtasir, Muhmmad SAWW khatm-un-nabiyeen. baqi kazzab or dajjal..
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Thats true. The one who doesn't believe Holy Prophet (pbuh) to be the Khataman Nabiyyeen can't be a Muslim. I hope you don't mean to say that Ahmadi Muslims don't consider Holy Prophet to be the Nabiyyeen, are you? Our interpretation of the term however differs from the mainstream Muslims of TODAY, but not necessarily scholars of the past.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya where will u set, gulam Ahmed ?
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ I am not the one to "set" his status, it is Allah who does it. His status is the same as Allah has given him and Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had foretold about. What is the status you have in your mind for your understanding of "Jesus" who is returning again on earth?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya beshak ALLAH set his status as kazzab and dajjal. And Muhammad SAWW also told us about kazzaboon and dajjaloon.
and Esa AS, atleast gulam ahmed is not Esa AS because Esa AS will come with his original face and name. he,ll fight with jews, kill dajjal, free jeroslum, and u ahmadies r the best friends of yahood o nsara. u read ahadees Nebvi Saww about fitnas ???
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Its very easy for me to remove your comments and block you permanently from my channel, so be careful when you address somebody I consider to be Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi in such disrespectful language. I won't tolerate this here. Now you call us best friends of Jews and Christians, but your beliefs give so much power to their arguments. You have kept Jesus alive with your beliefs but have kept Holy Prophet dead! You resemble so much with Jews: /watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya because ALLAH told us in Quran that Esa AS doesn,t crosofied or murdered, ALLAH pick Esa AS alive and ALLAH will send him back. Prophet Muhammad SAWW died and go to heavens and it is truth and no resumblence with ur friends.
ur friends claimed that Esa AS crosofied.
except blocking me what else can u do? All prophets are nobels and pure and u must know what ur gulam ahmed said about Esa AS about his mother about her mother? You read AHadeeseNabvi about Fitnazz ? if not plz read
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Don't worry I won't block you as long as you remain decent. So you said Quran said that he was neither crucified nor murdered, but was picked up by Allah alive! I agree that he didn't die of his injuries on the cross (ie. wasn't crucified, but you can't say he was not even put on the cross) nor was he killed otherwise, but how can you rule his natural death much later on his life from that verse? Also where did Quran say that God lifted him up physically and bodily alive?...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...You also claimed that Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) nouzobillah insulted Prophet Jesus, his mother and grandmother. You are only repeating whatever your Mullah's have told you. The fact is that you have not done your own research yourself on the issue at all. Promised Messiah was answering Chirtian clergy who used the most filthy language for our Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Promised Messiah answered them by showing true picture of imaginary Jesus of THEIR UNDERSTANDING and not of Quran!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya no mulla told me i have seen this in a book which is written by ur gulam ahmed..
Is he not stated this ?
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ You can take things out of context and then give them the interpretation you want to give. Quran also states that one must not offer prayers. This is when we read the verse out of context. When we read the verse in the context we come to know that in a certain situation God forbids offering of prayer. You are doing the same thing. You are accusing Promised Messiah of something on the basis of your interpretation of his writing by taking things completely out of context.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya my english is not as good as urs i can,t answer u in same language, sorry for that but alhumduLILLAH i can understand ur language.
O bhai ye kam main nahi ker raha jo aap keh rahe ho main tu ye kehta hoon k Quran main ALLAH ne fermaya hai k iss kitab main koi tera pen nahi..
ye tera pen or net nai teshreehat doondh dhoondh ker tu aap log bhetke huwa hain.
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Paa ji, SSA, I am a SIKH, i study Islam and read Quran too. You will be very kind enough to name that book which you read. with that,I wish to believe, that your grand parents would have taught your parents that when addressing others, one have to address with respect, irrespective if we agree or not.SSA paa ji. I hope you will answerr me in civilized manners, and MORE OVER, wish to tell you, I am a PUNJABI, and use my language with great depth.
MeSikh 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya no one put Esa AS on cross it is cleard.. this is christians promoted myth...
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ Christians believe that Jesus was put on the cross and he died on it, our belief is that of Quran though. We believe that he was put on the cross but he didn't die of his injuries. God saved him from this accursed death on the cross. He later migrated from that land of oppressors towards the EAST. Our belief actually breaks the very foundations of modern Christianity. Your belief however makes Jesus alive, but makes Holy Prophet dead. You help the cause of Christians!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya so what ager AAP SAWW wisal ferma chuke hain or Esa AS zinda hain tu iss main kia msla hai janab ?
Aap SAWW ne fermaya hai k mujhe yahood o nsara ki terha kha-mukha na berhana.
or ager Esa AS zinda hain tu iss main Aap Saww ki gustakhi kahan nikel rahi hai, meri jan wo Nabi e Pak Saww k ummeti ben ker aayen ga. Aik nimaz wo ummeti k peecha perhain ga. Aap ko ye leg raha hai k iss se christians ki help hoti hai lakin mera khayal hai k un ka RED hota hai.
ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ 1 year ago
@ABDULRAHMANHAFIZ You can write very good English, I would like you to discuss this in English with me as other people can benefit from our discussion too. 1. First of all where does Quran say that Jesus is alive? 2. Now you said that how is the belief that Jesus was ascended to heaven helps the cause of Christians. If you read the history of subcontinent at the time of Promised Messiah, you will see that Muslims were turning into Christianity because of this belief and this verse of Quran...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...in which disbelievers demanded from Holy Prophet to ASCEND TO HEAVEN and the response of Holy Prophet recorded by Quran is that Holy is Allah from these things and that I AM ONLY A MESSENGER. So if HProphet can't ascend being a human, but Jesus can who does it help? [17:93/94] ‘Or thou have a house of gold or thou ASCEND UP INTO HEAVEN; and we will not believe in thy ascension until thou send down to us a book that we can read.’ Say, ‘Holy is my Lord! I am not but a man sent as a Messenger.’
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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@BIGKafarAhmadiya :The Holy prophet Muhammed SAW has said: ‘Verily thirty Liars will be born in my Ummah; every one of them will claim to be a prophet, though I am the last prophet, and there will be no Prophet after me.’ (Jami Tirmidhi no 2145/ Sahih Muslim vol2, p248) Gulam Qadayani was Dajal Kafar & One Liar in this Ummah
alqawaa 1 year ago
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@KafarAhmadiya :The Holy prophet Muhammed SAW has said: ‘Verily thirty Liars will be born in my Ummah; every one of them will claim to be a prophet, though I am the last prophet, and there will be no Prophet after me.’ (Jami Tirmidhi no 2145/ Sahih Muslim vol2, p248) Gulam Qadayani was Dajal Kafar & One Liar in this Ummah
alqawaa 1 year ago
Ma'shallah serenity is so evident on his face. May Almighty bless him a long and healthy life. Amen.
adilrizwan 1 year ago
if our goverment people are true then I dare them to publish the 1974 assmbley report for people of pakistan to see what jamat e ahmaddiya said and what they said i mean in camera session then we will see the real face of mullas are thay brave & honest enough are u people brave & honest enough to tell the goverment of pakistan to do that I AM 20000% sure that no disscussion will be needed after that .hey himmat tu chapoo woh report.ISLAM AHMADDIAT PHOLE GI OR PHALE GI OR TUM NAMURAD HO GE.
1stthehumanity 1 year ago
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Qadiyanis It is best for you to declare yourself non-muslims and go your own way. Invent your new holy book, invent your new messengers.. do whatever you want to, just leave the Islam pure, don't stain our Holy Quran with your dirty mind and thinking and your ever new ways of bid'ah and silly innovation! May Allah guide you to the right path as shown by Holy Quran and Hadith.
WakeUpCall1000 1 year ago
Islam Ahmadiyyat Zindabad
behzad754 1 year ago
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you are not muslims you are qadianis the stupids which follow that man who had loose character mar jao saare qadianio
mfadij 1 year ago
@mfadij Watch this youtube video in which non-Ahmadis (one of them a staunch enemy of Ahmadiyyat) are talking about the character of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as): /watch?v=wVOMV7vDFck
Look how Allah makes the truth come out from the mouths of even the enemies. Your cheap effort to twist the facts has done you no good.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
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@IslamAhmadiya @JBEragon178 YOU guys are enemy within.More dangerous than the Western hegemonic power.Ahmadiyas father are the colonial British and the war monger Americans .YOU love them, to us they are STATE TERRORISTS. Today they are responsible for the sufferings of our Palestinian brothers.And they are your friends , bastards. No bastard Punjabi can be a prophet.MIRZA was a British implant. Got the answer.
TruthPowerful1 1 year ago
AHMADIYYA KHALIFA should do best rather then calling them jahil our beloved holy prophet Mohammad S.A.W never said any thing bad to his enemies
faizan2012flow 1 year ago
@nemah173 don't say him bad try to make good
faizan2012flow 1 year ago
@faizan2012flow u couldnt get my point. I say nothing that meant like "BAD" but plz watch 16th June 2010 Point Blank and also responses on youtube.
nemah173 1 year ago
@nemah173 talking to them is like ,bhens ke age been bajana.they just do that to provoke ahmadis but .galian sun ker dua du pake dukh araam du.this is the diffrence between them & us.AHMADDIAT ZINDABAD
1stthehumanity 1 year ago
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Please don not say yourself Ahmadis,,,but Qadiyanis...Ahmad is a scared name......And also please stop propagendas against Islamis scholars and ulemas.........Try to respect them...........You still have time to accept Islam ,before it become so late.....Think this my Qadiyanis friends.!!!!
3zulfar 1 year ago
@3zulfar Do you know, enemies of Holy Prophet also didn't like the word Muslim for the Muslims. They used to call Holy Prophet and his followers as "Sabis". So you are not new in your demands. Holy Prophet himself declared the so called ulema of today as the "worst creatures under the heavens". Why don't you first demand Holy Prophet to give respect to these "ulemas". I would rather advise you to respect Holy Prophet and Allah Almighty. By the way I am showing the true picture of your "ulema"!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya the Islam doesn't spread far and greater by tell the truth and showing their real faces but by telling them the significance of Islam and Allah almighty and the one who will do this will be punished because it is a human nature if i am going tell your ulemas LIAR BASTARD OR SOMETHING BAD you will going to hate me and even in return you will say me bad
faizan2012flow 1 year ago
@faizan2012flow The Holy Prophet (pbuh) declared the so called ulema of today as "Sharro man tahta adeemis Samaa" (worst creatures under the skies). These were the words of Holy Prophet and not ours. Those who exploit Islam for their own agendas and misguide all those who follow them must be exposed for the sake of the peace of societies. Even Quran exposes the Munafiqeen. Anyway, I think you don't know the background of this response by Khalifatul Masih. Watch this: /watch?v=lTKQHbW3bg0
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago 2
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@IslamAhmadiya @JBEragon178 YOU guys are enemy within.More dangerous than the Western hegemonic power.Ahmadiyas father are the colonial British and the war monger Americans .YOU love them, to us they are STATE TERRORISTS. Today they are responsible for the sufferings of our Palestinian brothers.And they are your friends , bastards. No bastard Punjabi can be a prophet.MIRZA was a British implant. Got the answer.
TruthPowerful1 1 year ago
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Primarily, the fundamental belief in Allah Taaala is denied by the founder of Qadiyanis (Dajjal Mirza Ghulam Qadiyani kathab) through his false claim of being God when he stated I saw in one of my revelations (Kashf) that I was God and I therefore believe that I am God. (Nau-thu-billah) (In Qadiyani Book, Ruhani Khazain, vol 13, p103)
alqawaa 1 year ago
@Oo786oO: I received your e-mail, I don't have the time to locate your message here., so I am writing one anew. You have accused me of deleting your post, I surmise you are accusing me of being IslamAhmadiya, posting with a pseudonym. Let me assure you that I am not Islamahmadiya nor I am an Ahmadi. You however sir ,are against not just Ahmadis but a rational thought process.
karachishaher 1 year ago
@karachishaher
Why are you falsy accusing me of something? I cannot remember ever emailing anyone by the name of karachishaher. Also i didn't; accuse anyone of deleting any of my posts. Nor did i say you are an ahmadi. Basically everything you stated associated with me seems to be a lie, unless that message which says @Oo786oO at the start is not directed to me...
Oo786oO 1 year ago
IslamAhmadiya, Could you provide a list of all the leaders of your community all the way back. What time period they served in and relationship to each other, if any. Thanks.
karachishaher 1 year ago
@karachishaher Assalamu Alaikum brother, The Promised Messiah (as) passed away in 1908. Since his demise, Khilafat (that we consider to be revival of true Khilafat-e-Rashida in Islam) has been leading the worldwide Ahmadiyya Jamaat. A Khalifa is the worldwide spiritual leader of the community until his demise. We are headed by fifth Khalifa of the Promised Messiah today with the grace of Allah. First Khalifa was not physically related to Promised Messiah, however the rest have been so far...
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...this however should be noted that Ahmadi Muslims don't consider any physical relationship to be of the reason as to why Allah chooses somebody as the Khalifa from the hands of those who elect him rather Allah chooses the one who is the most pious and righteous in His eyes. Brother if you want more information on Khilafa-e-Ahmadiyya, go to the following link (without spaces ofcourse): a l i s l a m . o r g / t o p i c s / k h i l a f a t/
You are most welcome to ask anything.
Wassalam
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Thanks for the info. I do have one more question. I recall seeing an old picture of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the name was inscribed on the picture itself in Urdu/Persian. It read "Meerza", which is short for "Meer-zadeh", more or less meaning a "Syed" in our society, was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from a Syed family?
karachishaher 1 year ago
@karachishaher No brother, Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) came from persian descent. Holy Prophet (pbuh) actually prophecied that the coming Mahdi would be from among them when he put his hands on the shoulders of Salman The Persian (ra) and said that even if the faith would have ascended to the heavens, a person (or a group) from among them would bring it back to the earth. Please let me thank you for the decency and honesty you have shown so far commenting under this video. Wassalam
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
Na Sunni , Na Shiya , Na Mirzai , Na Barelvi , Na Ahmadi , Na Wahabi , Na Punjabi , Na Sindhi , Pehlay Insaan , Phir Musalmaan Or phir Pakistan " Yehi Hai Meri Pehchaan '" .
ahsan2kute 1 year ago
i don't think ahmedies are non-Muslim but there is some things which we need to be understand
danapane 1 year ago
@danapane Assalamu Alaikum brother, You are most welcome to clear any misconceptions that you might have about Ahmadiyya. Please feel free to ask any questions that agitate your mind regarding our faith. Wassalam.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
This is true Islam.Jamat Ahmadiyya Zindabad
tigerpower01 1 year ago
I m not an Ahmadi. @ of my best friends are Ahmadis. They say that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was imam mehdi and the last Prphet is Muhammad s.a.w. If this is true then y r u guys labeled as non Muslims and thought not to believe in Muhammad s.a.w as the last messenger?
LaraAkram 1 year ago
@LaraAkram Brother this is the kind of false propaganda the Mullahs want to spread. They are actually worried and concerned about their own material agendas and for that they see their worldly "authorities" being threatened by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. The truth is that they themselves preach about the coming of Jesus the Prophet of Allah AFTER Holy Prophet. They don't see any problem in "Khatme Nabuwwat" there. The only difference we have with them about the coming Messiah is of identity.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
This is not the true islam which ahmadi are spreading. these are surely non muslims. be aware of these deceivers which are like a snake. come to true islam of Muhammad PBUH. their prophet ghulam ahmad qadyani died on the human excreta.
saqib1932 1 year ago
@saqib1932 Your comments show extreme prejudice and nothing else. What is it in Ahmadiyyat that is unIslamic? Lets discuss this rationally and in an unbiased proper way. As for your ignorant comment about the falsely propagated "accursed" death of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Promised Messiah), don't forget that Jews also claim that Jesus (First Messiah) died an accursed death. Holy Prophet prophecied about this resemblance between Muslims of today with Jews of Jesus' time. Fear Allah!
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@ikram310 "Read page 56 and see your jamaat's hypocricy." Yep you are a 100% thicko... you have just confirmed that. As you are a retard and not able to read and understand more than 3 words put together I will point you to page 60, go and read the explanation, as what you are reading on page 56 clearly says "Alleged Innovations". Do you know the meaning of "Alleged"? Should I explain?
m40001 1 year ago
@ikram310 ok... so you are telling me something i already know.. and as usual for a dumb fuck like you, you take a document.... go streight to page 56 and take everything out of context... as I said already, you are too thick too read let alone understand islam. And just to make it clear... you ARE A KAFIR!!!
m40001 1 year ago
@m40001
Beautiful. I was expecting such a response from yourself, why? because i know when truth hits falsehood, it knockes its brains out! Rather than bringing along proof and rational statements, you bring along insults (Brainwashed) and insults (crazy), and you bring along false assumptions "uneducated". Also i find your initial two words rather amusing (blah blah) Peace.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
It is quite clear that both the Ahmadis as well as the majority sect agree that they belong to different "Deens". The issue is therefore basically one of semantics and not theology.
The issue is, does the majority sect have exclusive right to the word "Muslim", let us discuss this issue fairly and rationally.
More importantly, even if you don't respect a religion, you still have to respect somebody's right to follow that religion.
karachishaher 1 year ago
i love huzur. I'm so glad we have a khalifa. seeing his face and hearing his voice puts my heart at east.
starryeyesurpise 1 year ago 2
@IslamAhmadiya u r really doing gr8 job keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trueislam26 1 year ago
@m40001 hwy u r blsatng urslvs n sayng othrs terrorist............shme on u.........atleast accept wht u r???????
trueislam26 1 year ago
@trueislam26 We don't negotiate with terrorists, anyway beta you must have heard this a thousand times before so here it is again : who the gave you the authority to decide who is or isn't a Muslim? Just because you don't understand Islam doesn't mean you can judge anyone else. You and your views are irrelevant.
m40001 1 year ago
AHMADIYAT ZINDABAD
llmainall 1 year ago 2
ISLAM AHMADIYYAT ZINDAHBAD.....PAKISTAN KAY MULLAH SIRF NAAM K MUSALMAN HAIN...SACHA ISLAM AHMADIYYAT HAI
islamahmadiyat1 1 year ago
@islamahmadiyat1 yes u r rite.......
trueislam26 1 year ago
jamat ahmadiyya zindabad.
mrbasil3 1 year ago 9
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MOHAMMAD (S.A.W.W) ALLAH k aakhri NABI AUR RASOOL HEIN , MOHAMMAD (S.A.W.W) K BAAD JO BHI NABUWAT KA DAWA KERAY , JHOOTA , KAFAR AUR DAJJAL HAI
AHMADIAYAT (MURDABAAD)
brailveeonline 1 year ago
One person announce that he is selling Pork's flesh and sell it is not dangerous but another who declare that he is selling Cow's flesh and actually sell pork is most dangerous and Ahmadis are such dangerous and guding innocent people to hell fire. Beaware of this Fitna and just read Quran mirza qadian is neither prophet nor mehdi or messiah he was just a normal man and nothing else
rusher80 1 year ago
@rusher80 Just making such claims wouldn't change the facts. Where is the proof of your comments? What is it that Ahmadis believe in and that is against the teachings of Quran and Holy Prophet (pbuh)? Also your statement that Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (as) was not Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah is just plain hollow. Afterall majority of the world even considers Holy Prophet as a "normal man" and not a prophet of Allah. Does that change the facts?
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
IslamAhmadiya. You are doing a great job. JazakAllah.
Ibrahim7677 1 year ago 5
Assalamu Alaikum brother Ibrahim7677, Jazak Allah for the kind words. May Allah be with you and yours. Wassalam
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago 3
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Mansoor1981 1 year ago
Mansoor, How old are you? Did you take permission from your parents to use the computer? This is the kind of attitude of some Muslims today that defames the very name of Islam. For once try to ponder over your attitude and see if there is anything in similar in your character and the Holy character of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who you associate yourself with? If you have even slightest of Taqwah left in your heart, you will be ashamed of your character and seek forgiveness from Allah.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago 16
@IslamAhmadiya
Though you may be tolerent to the behaviour of mansoor, tolerance doesn't indicate whether a person is upon Haq.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO You are right. What is in Ahmadiyyat that you feel is against the Haq (truth)? We can discuss it in detail rationally and in an ubiased honest way. Wassalam
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya
The Qu'ran explicitly states that Muhammad peace be upon him was the "Seal of the prophets". What does this mean? If you look into arabic linguistics the word Nabi can encompas rasul also, which means messenger. So for a being to be a messenger he MUST be a nabi, or else his claim is false. The fact that the Quran mentions Muhammad as the final nabi suggest that anyone that claims to have come with a new message needs a psychiatrist. Hence why I reject Ahmadiya.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO You are discussing an irrelevant issue, from my interpretation, Ahmadis also believe that Mohommad (PBUH) is the last prophet, at least so far. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is a reincarnation on Jesus, therefore he came before Mohommad, therefore Mohommad (PBUH) being the last prophet is not a point of contention between Ahmadis and the main-stream masses.
karachishaher 1 year ago
@karachishaher Assalamu Alaikum brother, I must thankyou for your decency first. You are right brother that we consider Holy Prophet (PBUH) as the last law-bearing prophet. We don't however believe in the concept of re-incarnation. The one who dies never comes back to this life again. We believe that Jesus (as) has passed away like all the past prophets of God who were all human beings. Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is a subordinate prophet of Holy Prophet within Islam to revive its teachings.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
...so Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) was a non-law bearing prophet whose purpose of coming in this age was to revive the true spirit and essence of Islam. He is not the same old Jesus of Nazareth, rather he has come in the character and likeness of Jesus. Just like Jesus came as a prophet for Jews to revive the true essence of Judaism, Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) has come in his character within Islam in this age to revive the true essence of Islam. Wassalam
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiyya Salami am not very familiar with Ahmadiyya,but reading your comment a question came to my mind,If Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam subordinate of Prophet,Why it is not mention in Muslims Books ?
TRUTHvsDECEPTION 1 year ago
@TRUTHvsDECEPTION Walaikumus Salam. The possibility of prophethood within Islam in subordination of Holy Prophet is not only mentioned in earlier ordinary Islamic literature but also in Holy Quran and Ahadith of Holy Prophet (PBUH). Infact Holy Prophet himself declared the coming Messiah and Imam Mahdi a "Khalifatullah" (Allah's Khalifa/Prophet) and "Nabiullah". So it is only the prophethood outside the subordination of Holy Prophet that has been closed till the Doomsday by God Almighty.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiyya "o I recall reading about Mehdi & Messiah.
Can you please tell me if Mehdi & Messiah is the one person or two different People ?And If Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam is Mehdi or Messiah or both ?
TRUTHvsDECEPTION 1 year ago
@TRUTHvsDECEPTION Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah are the two titles of the same one person according to the words of Holy Prophet (pbuh). Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) is both the Imam Mahdi, and Promised Messiah.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiyya And what is the difference between Promise Messiah And Jesus Christ who Him self has to return ?
TRUTHvsDECEPTION 1 year ago
@TRUTHvsDECEPTION Brother as I said earlier, as Ahmadi Muslims we believe that Jesus of Nazareth (as) is dead like all other prophets. He was only Messiah and Prophet for the Jews of his time. The Promised Messiah who was prophecied by Holy Prophet in Islam actually is "Jesus" in a metaphorical sense and not literal. When Holy Prophet likened the condition of Muslims of today with that of Jews of the time of Jesus then the remedy of Muslims had to be through somebody in likeness of Jesus.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
ahmadiyat zindabad
llmainall 1 year ago 2
@IslamAhmadiya brother,Allah [swr] clearly stated, the only deen is islam and any one who seeks deen other than islam will not be accepted. Al e Imran.Another ayat states in black in whites that . any one who follows the path which is other than mainstream belivers way .we shall turn them to the hell . So plz leave islamahmadiat and come to the real one & only Islam of Muammad Arabi [saw].
5663668 1 year ago
@5663668 Brother when did we seek religion other than Islam for ourselves? This is what we have been trying to always say. What is it that we believe in goes against the teachings of Quran and Holy Prophet? It is infact the non-Ahmadi "mainstream" Muslims who are adamant in taking our rights away from even professing the basic Islamic creed (Kalima). Where does Quran say that you must follow the "mainstream" (majority)? Infact I have the verse in mind that says complete the opposite.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@IslamAhmadiya Thanks for the clarification. I obviously need to enhance my knowledge and analysis.
karachishaher 1 year ago
@karachishaher
First of all you must understand what reincarnation means. This is not an Islamic principle at all, it is a hindu principle and a christian principle, so by its very basis it is flawed. According to Islam Isa will return in his own body, not as a reincarnated being. ALso the fact ahmadiya originates from India suggests where it as a religion could have obtained reincarnation from.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO Just wanted to clarify here that the concept of Reincarnation is NOT the belief of Ahmadi Muslims. This point was also mentioned by IslamAhmadiya, perhaps you missed it.
player963 1 year ago
@Oo786oO I would concede that point about reincarnation, particularly because IslamaAhmadiya has clarified that it is not a part of their doctrine. However, your tone does not suggest a rational mind. Mind is like a parachute, it only works when it is open.
karachishaher 1 year ago
@karachishaher
Nice cliche response. According to Ahmadiya "Ghulam" ahmad was jesus and al mahdi in one. Am i wrong here? Please educate me if i am.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO According to the very words of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah (in the likeness of Jesus) had to be two titles of one and the same person. One of such ahadith is recorded in Ibne Maja: "LAl-Mahdi'o Illa Eesa" Translation: There is no Al-Mahdi except Esa (that is Promised Messiah).
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@Oo786oO Ahmadiyya Muslims certainly do not believe in the concept of re-incarnation. Actually this is the kind of propaganda that the Mullahs of today want to spread and spread. Mullahs want to potray our faith in an ugly way, just like some anti-Muslim clergy wants to potray the teachings of Islam in an ugly way. We believe Jesus (as) to be dead like all other prophets, so he can never come back to this world. Promised Messiah is actually "Jesus" only in his likeness with him. Thats all.
IslamAhmadiya 1 year ago
@Mansoor1981 My screen ran out of ink, was there a logical argument at the end of that "Kafir" chain?, I doubt it.
karachishaher 1 year ago
ikram, You have not responded to my question. What is the verdict of Quran on somebody who rejects a true prophet of God? Question is simple and I want a straigtforward answer. Stop beating behind the bush.
IslamAhmadiya 2 years ago
ikram, First of all you have taken the excerpts out of context, but even if they weren't, I would like to ask you as to what is the Quranic verdict on a person who rejects a true prophet of Allah? This is a simple question, I need a clear answer in the light of Holy Quran.
IslamAhmadiya 2 years ago
And now that you have said it, say it out right like you were advocating for it; because you have a tendency to change your stand. Say this : nooruddin was the fifth khalifa after the four Rashidun khaliphs, he was the fifth khalifa who was supposed to come after a GAP.
You change your stand and it will take this debate nowhere. Also, since the family of golam is running the show, you sure no other prophets will come? Cause the sons are coming...
saudali25 2 years ago
saudali25, All the first four Khalifas of Holy Prophet were related to Holy Prophet in one way or the other. Also non-Ahmadis even believe that the "Imam Mahdi" would also be from Holy Prophet's physical progeny. Does that mean that it was Holy Prophet's family that was running the show and continue to run the show till the Doomsday? So for once come out of your hypocrisy and try to see the facts without the spectacles of prejudice. The very fact that first Khalifa of Promised Messiah was not...
IslamAhmadiya 2 years ago
...from his family shows that Khilafat has got nothing to do with physical relationship. With the grace of Allah the way Ahmadiyyat under rightly guided Khilafat continues to flourish and prosper and the enemies of Ahmadiyyat continue to get frustrated shows the Divine succor with this Khilafat. Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih Awwal (RA) is the fifth Khalifa of Holy Prophet in the sense that his Khilafat was established in the same way as the first Khilafat after Holy Prophet and was connected...
IslamAhmadiya 2 years ago
...to that Khilfat-e-Rashida of Holy Prophet that was based on Nabuwwat. However in one way even Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah is the Khalifa of Holy Prohet but his Khilafat differs from other Khalifas of the past in the sense that he was also honoured with the title of Prophethood. So in this way, Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih Awwal (RA) and Khulafa-e-Ahmadiyyat become the Khulafa like the Khulafa-e-Rashideen of Holy Prophet in exact same way.
IslamAhmadiya 2 years ago
After nooruddin the ahmediya split into two fractions. Was it because mehmood ahmed was selected as khalifa while he was in his early 20s and the others were much older than him? He was considered as "pisr-e-maood" (promised SON!) and the others were ONLY righteous and not the son? And since mahmood, no outsiders has made it to the khilafat? Why a promised SON and not promised khalifa?
saudali25 2 years ago
saudali25, You have no knowledge of the history of Ahmadiyyat. Hadhrat Mirza Mirza Bashirud din Mahmood Ahmad (RA) wasn't elected because he was "pisre-Maood" or "Musleh Maood". There was an election that took place and he was elected. There was no campaign as such in his favour before the election that he was pisre maood so he should be the Khalifa. Once he was elected as the Khalifa, those who thought themselves to be the most righteous and able to be Khalifa came out with their true colours..
IslamAhmadiya 2 years ago