Mormonism? Oh you mean The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Haha maybe you should read The Book of Mormon and even study LDS before you bash it. You don't become a God of your own planet. You are lying. Becoming a God as in perfect and clean. If you read the bible it talks about the 3 kingdoms . Yet you believe in the trinity, something not mentioned in the bible, many passages show the separation of father and son..Trinity is a PAGAN tradition. You are the false one.
Im lisening and im cant hellp to feeal sory for this guy. If he had studied the Book Of Mormon and aksed people who knows stuf about the LDS. Then he would proberly stil be a member. To bad he dont even try to anderstand. Or maby his parents were ideots, who dident know anyting.
You are off on a few of those "beliefs" I think your memory of Mormonism is mixing non doctrinal speculations with official teachings. They are often confused. Plus there are trivial doctrines that have no bearing on salvation. Unless you want to believe in salvation by 100% correct doctrine. People will have all sorts of doctrines they either don't understand or have wrong and it won't matter at all unless it somehow prevents you from following Christ and truly becoming like him.
Correct their is only one God and Mormon theology teaches the wrong things: I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isa: 45:5 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Eph: 4:6
For the most part (only a few details were off), you portrayal of Mormon theology was accurate. There are some intensive studies I have done in Old Testament academic theology to make me realize that your arguments are less than convincing (especially concerning Jesus and Lucifer being brothers). However, I realize your critique of Mormonism is coming from a reformed/Calvinistic type theology and you strike me as a modest person who is giving a humble opinion... so no need to bash you. LOL
Thanks, I found it good to know that your ex-mormon. I have LDS in my family. Therefore I know how they are. My own Bishop uncle lied to me about Mormons believe and teach,,, and then for some reason he gave me an LDS book called,, the gospel principles. It proved to me that Mormonism is from the pit of Hell and is indeed a cult,,, and that Mormons will lie to anyone and everyone about hat they truly believe. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
It kind of shows 3 seperate beings. Why would God talk to himself and call himself his son? You think that God, if he were Jesus on the earth, would just speak as God instead of God speaking from heaven.
It says in the bible that jesus christ is the only begotten SON of god. not that he is god. meaning hello GOD and Jesus are two different people. Dont sit here and try to force your veiws on other people and get your facts straight and do a bit more research And dont bash the temple just because you have never been there. Baptisms for the dead are a very sacred and special thing. And you dont become a god of your own planet you can become like a god.Dont bash other religions you have no right.
@sydster88 i know this comment was posted a long time ago but i read it and wanted to reply beause in fact the bible clearly states that Jesus is God. In John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." And then it goes on to say in verse John 1:14 "And the word became flesh, and dwelt among us." Also in John 14 it says "He who has seen me has seen the Father, so how can you say, show us the Father?" There are many more verses, but these are just some.
Have you heard of the Book Of Mormon? Just so you know. The Bible was translated by many different people, so technically it's not totally true. That's why we have the Book of Mormon to help us better understand Christ, and the meaning of the Bible. So, just because the Bible said something, doesn't mean it is necessarily true.
Heavenly Father had a plan for us. Heavenly Father asked who will go down to earth and be the only begotten son, and the savior of all on this Earth? Both Jesus Christ and Satan volunteered. Satan or Lucifer said here I am send me,free will will not be allowed, not a soul will be lost, but your glory will be mine. Jesus Christ said here I am send me, and your glory will be your own, and men will pratice free will.
if one is to speculate why Heavenly Father would emphasis so much on union between a man and a wife, there is a reason for that. Perhaps the best thing a man and a woman, or a god and a godess can do is to create life. whether it is spiritually or physically. This leads to us now. The Bible does talk about pre earth life, this is the time we were created as spiritual beings, essentially spirit brothers and sisters. You were there, I was there and jesus christ and satan were there also.
I believe it is in genesis, about pre earth life in the bible. Pretty much tho, before all things are created physically, they are created spiritually. I believe this is the true power of godhood. I believe the mechanics we have to bring a child into this physical life, is essentially the same as it is spiritually. Although to bring a spiritual child into life is a much higher degree of responsibility. It is not written in the bible however how it is done however..........
This verse in the Bible.....and not in the Book of Mormon is very important. It shows us the very nature of God. It does explain one thing. First There is the Father, and the son. Seperating the two as seperate entities. Second, it tells you that you have the chance to rule along side Jesus Christ, and his father. although it doesn't state it in this verse, I do have a feeling our Heavenly Father has gone through a life of trials and tribulations just like us.
Sorry i messed up on that verse..... To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my father in his throne. This is Jesus Christ talking to John explaining that if we overcome..... overcome what? our trials and tribulations? We will be granted to sit with him in his throne, even as he overcame.....overcame what? Trials and tribulations? He is set down with his father....who is father? God? Heavenly father? In his throne.
I honestly respect your opinion. I would like to share however some scriptures that I think you should seriously read for yourself, sear ponder and pray about. Rev 3, verse 21. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne.
I like some of your points about Mormonism; however the word "logic" and the Bible don't really go together. I think you can say that Mormon teachings are not in accord with the Bible, but the Bible is a work that is filled with illogical inconsistencies that could only be reconciled by some kind of faith in mystery. To say that the Bible is logical, while Mormonism is not, is--well--illogical.
And a small add to the "angel of light" thing. Do you know what was the first lie satan ever told to man? "You can become gods". What does mormonism teach? Holy enough, you can become a god. For me the message is clear, 1+1=2, not 3. I will keep praying for you mormons.
Actually the first lie that Satan told them was that they would surely not die. Genesis 3:22 says that they DID become as the gods, knowing good and evil, which was what they were told.
Wow, didn't know you were a mormon. It goes in my family as well, my dads uncle is a some sort of "chief" mormon where he lives. The other uncle converted first, but then he converted into christianity, inspiration of Holy spirit he said.
My best friend is also a mormon and went to salt lake to learn greek for hes two-year "missionary" ;_; I pray for him that hes eyes would be opened for the Christian God.
Did you Jezuzfreek777 grew up rough? Seeing your video's, it seems like you got to know Jesus Christ in your 20's. Keep up the good work and God Bless.
jezuzfreek777 is on the right path, but he is only halfway there yet. he has seen through the Mormon charade...GOOD. Now, on to the next step. He has to see Christianity for what it is too and reject it also. Then, and only then, he will be free and able to think for himself and, I can tell you, that, once free of the fetters of Christianity, it is simply amazing how clear it all becomes. Once the Bible 'God' is out of the picture, all things fall easily into place and we can progress.
amen, i love your videos, i was actually going to do this. watch "the book of mormon vs the bible" and "the maze of mormonism." i have a question though, what is everything that is considered blaspheming? because Mohamed claimed to be the Comforter (holy spirit) in the new testament, would that be included?
You know, saying you can't believe in a God that was once a man, etc., is like saying you can't work for that supermarket because the CEO used to be a bag boy or something.
Did you know taht, in Missouri, until 1976, that it was technically legal for someone to kill a Mormon just for being Mormon? That's how long the Extermination order stayed in effect.
Archaic laws are interesting. But just because they had a law on the books doesn't mean that it was being enforced, though that is how you represent it.
Someone was killed, but it wasn't because he was mormon. But when they found out that the dead guy was a mormons, they used that archaic law as a defense, which is what led to the state's officially taking the law off the books.
The Alpha and the Omega does refer to God. This is true with reference to clock time and without the concept of time as understood by the human mind. Jesus being, Only Begotten is refering to being born on earth by the power of the Holy Spirit throught the Virgin Mary. I will pray for you brother Jezuzfreek777.
Mormons cannot claim to be Christians because they don't accept the teachings of our Lord. Christ is the ONE God, as there is only ONE. If there was ever a bride of the Lord it is the Church!
There was a lot of persecution before Nauvoo. Haun's Mill was Missouri. And in Ohio, Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered, while his baby died of measles, because he was taking care of him when other men thought it would be fun to douse him in hot tar and then feathers.
Joseph was a pervert, and was almost castrated for his sexual improprieties but the surgeon backed out at the last minute, and then joseph was tarred and feathered as a form of vigilante justice. He had it coming to him. The sicko had 30+ wives, some as young as 14. He is just like, or worse than,the perverts in the FLDS mormon cult in Texas who just had their kids justly taken away.
I'm not an anti mormon--I'm a mormon and my family are all mormon. I just don't believe in the church's false teachings or whitewashed history. It is amazing how little mormons know about their own religion's history. Are you even aware that JS had more than one wife?
Of course, he had a lot of women that were sealed to him. Everyone knows that. A couple that might have even lived with him as a wife, same as Emma. But, since there have been no records of any children between him and any woman other than Emma, there's no reason to believe that he was some randy lecher out for what he could get. If that were the case, then he would have never advocated MARRIAGE. He would have never ex'd John Bennett!
Emma Smith, Joseph's first wife, while peeking through a hole in the barn. saw their 15 year old maid getting nailed by her husband. Time and DNA tests will soon help us determine how many kids Joseph had with other mens wives. I don't believe Joseph had no kids with his wives and their is evidence that his marriages were not platonic.
lindalds demonstrates why people consider mormonism a cult. When you criticize their absurd beliefs they are taught to assume you are either evil or ignorant. They use labels like "anti-mormon" to frighten other believers from reading those contrary writings etc. I am not "anti-mormon". Yes I am anti-cult, and anti-racism, and anti-brainwashing, and anti-ignorance but I don't hate mormons just because I hate their religion.
How is that fair of you to bring up the big events perpetrated against mormons, and then say don't bring up MMM? Mountain Meadow Massacre, September 11th 1857, under the mormon church's resulted in the execution of over 120 men, women and children-it was the single largest terrorist attack on this soil until muslims flew planes into our buildings.
Show me where 120 mormons were massacred in similar fashion before we dismiss MMM. "Haun's Mill massacre" only resulted in 19 deaths.
You said "The mormons did their fair share of killing innocent women and children. They don't like to talk about that as much." and I want something besides MMM where any Mormons did this. Back up your accusations, or take it back. Where, besides the MMM, did any Mormons kill innocent women and children?
Besides, there were more than Haun's Mill. If you count every Mormon who died before getting to Salt Lake valley, then there were hundreds killed by terrorism.
THe mormons who died by natural causes because they chose to follow a false prophet across the dessert doesn't qualify as an act of terrorism. IE Martin and Willie handcart company had many casualties because they left too late in the season. It was their ignorance that killed them. More would have died if it weren't for mormons including my ancestors didn't go save them. You can't find any acts perpetrated against mormons that equal that of MMM, can you?
Natural because they chose to go, rather than stay in Illinois/Missouri and get raided, mobbed, raped, and killed. Some choice.
I SAID, you said Mormons did their fair share of killing innocent women and children, and OTHER THAN MMM, what other killings did Mormons do? Or was MMM the only instance of "their fair share"?
Martin and Willie handcart company came from England. They weren't driven out from anywhere, and no one made any them go across the desert. Emma Smith, Joseph's first wife, had no problem staying behind in Nauvoo. MMM was more than their fair share of killing innocent people. And of course thats not all the killing they ever did, but that event was monumental in its wickedness.
If they didn't go to Utah territory, where would they go? Back to England? They needed to be with their people. And their people were chased out of every home they had ever made, by mobs of men who raped, pillaged, and murdered, everyone who was "Mormon".
They didn't have to leave England in the first place. No one forced them to come over, and they knew the mormons had moved on to Utah when they departed. The mormon church paid the way of many of the poor English. There were more than just mormons who traveled west for their own reasons as well, and some of them also suffered losses. The smarter ones didn't leave to cross the country late in the season.
Please read the scriptures. The Church is the bride of Christ. We, the Chruch are called to be one with Christ, joint heirs in the Kingdom of Heaven. I will pray for jezuzfreak777 and svobodinya. May the love and peace of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ be with you always.
I joined the LDS church because I spent more time with the Bible. It's the most Biblical church, IMHO. And the more I study the Bible the more I know that I am right where God wants me.
Why do people assume that if I just read my Bible, I'd not be Mormon? it's not the case at all!
You can see where teaching that Jesus & Satan were brothers, equal, may lead to future problems easily........like thinking just because Satan had a differing opinion concerning the handling of menkind, he was tossed? But see its not the case at all. Satan was an arch-angel as the Bible describes, yes he was once favored, but he fell from Grace because, he became full of himself, & wanted to be as GOD himself, which is impossible and that view of oneself is an abomination to GOD.......
Yes, I was taught in the mormon church yrs ago, that men could become like a god themselves, create thier own planets, populate them themselves,and that Satan was the brother of Jesus (in fact, the 1st born)........All, of course are utter lies told by menkind who let thier egos/carnality lead them astray from the only wasy to GOD, which is Christ himself, & yepp, there is only ONE GOD, & hes not an earthly member of menkind today. ;)
clearly mormonism makes a lot more sense the bible. in the book of mormon it never says that a man can live inside a whale for 3 days, or that giants or unicorns ever existed, or that men can break down a wall with their voices, which is just crazy. clearly christianity has all the answers..............
are you a christian? cuz there's parts in the bible that are pretty weird. and btw your personal attack on mormonism and scientology is meaningless, Norse and Egyptian theology is pretty weird
Why do people keep up bringing other bizarre beliefs as a justification for other weird beliefs? So what if the Pagans had/have weird beliefs. Mormonism is still patently absurd. The biggest difference between cults like mormonism and scientology is that they are more obviously false than other religions.
still havent answered me, what faith or non-faith are you? Im an atheist so all theology is wrong and delusional to me, especially when it has such a large influence over such a large amount of people.
I don't have a belief in any god or religion. Like I said though some religions are more absurd than others. The FLDS mormons in Texas who are marrying their underage girls, are clearly in a more insane religion than say Baptists, but they are still better of than those who were in "The Peoples Temple"
(john) so are you atheist? pedofiles and fanatics, just like politicans have long ago worked out that religion is a great excuse and method of trickery. that doesnt mean the religion is any more weird than another, just those individuals. christians (which the peoples temple were) are to believe a lot mor far fetched stuff than mormons
As you see the Peoples temple group is stranger than mormonism and most versions of christianity, mormonism is more bizarre than most mainstream christianity. Mormons like to point out the absurdities in Christianity and they somehow think that the strangeness of that somehow justifies their weird beliefs. Moronism, unlike some christian groups, believe the bible very literally, then add superstitions to burden the faithful with--further removing them from reality.
waoh! that really just shows how much you know about mormonism. Mormons do not believe in the bible at all. they believe it has been tainted, altered and edited, which is very true.
Christians believe that a man can live inside a whale for 3 days, or that giants or unicorns existed, or that men can break down a wall with their voices. They would prefer that a virgin girl be gang raped to death than a man be beaten. They believe in an invisible sky daddy who just was always there. THATS weird!!!
Mormons believe the bible is true as "far as it is translated correctly" which essentially means they don't agree with parts that contradict mormonism.Muslims say the same thing about the bible--they agree with it when it agrees with them. Mormons generally have a literal view of the bible.The temple ceremony basically a reenactment of the garden of eden, which mormons believe really happened, (but not in talking snake).They also believe in the Noah's Flood, Moses' magic, and the resurrection.
Which parts of the Bible do we not agree with? Which parts are against "Mormonism"? You can find parts that YOU INTERPRET as being against "Mormonism", but, we WILL agree with them, just not the way you interpret them.
You ignorant moron, I'm arguing that you do believe in the bible. But I have to explain to "iliketoburnthings" what mormons mean when they say the bible has been altered.
(john....again) first of all, my name is ilike2burnthing, subtle difference but its there. second, there is no need to be rude in your response to lindalds, (s)he has said nothing offensive to you. so yes indeed, you are the one being ignorant now
(John) yes, and i would know many Christians that would believe that these things happened too. In fact all Christians did before science started to challenge these ideas as being impossible.
We believe the Bible to be the word of God, as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God. Eighth article of faith.
The Book of Mormon is the most perfect book written, am I right in saying this is what you believe? And would you also agree with Joseph Smith's statement, that he was more successful at keeping the Church together than Jesus Christ? (again i am an atheist so dont worry about offending me)
well if it is the most correct book then why have there been 3913 changes made to the original translation and why are there still anachronisms in the text?
(lindalds) do you believe that God was once mortal and ascended to Godhood and that we too can do the same? If so, this makes Him no more important in the universe than our next stage in evolution and is in no way worthy of worship.
There is but one only living and true God, who is infinite in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts, or passions, immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible, almighty, most wise, most holy, most free, most absolute
Is this your god? He sounds weird, and totally contradictory to me, and this IS the god that most non-LDS Christians believe in, no matter what they say.
God, to me, is more what you describe, than what I did.
Well i am Atheist, so I am ruled by no God, but nor shall I bow before any man.
Yes the Christian God is indeed a contradiction, all knowing, all powerful, but yet acts suprised, jealous, angry, betrayed, vengful when a child is disrespectful to his parents or a man picks up sticks on the sabbath for a fire for his freezing family. Or would prefer a virgin girl be raped to death than a grown man be beaten.
Just where did you pick "without body, parts, or passions" from? You do realize that mormon belief is really no different from hindu religion? Reincarnation, rings any bells?
"without body parts or passions" is from, I believe, the Westminster Confession (have to look it up again, but I think it's there at least).
Reincarnation is the belief that the soul keeps inhabiting other mortal bodies until it "gets it right". We believe you only get ONE body. Although I can see a parallel.
Bible quite clearly states that your body is sinful. By the time of resurrection christians will get glorified bodys that are apart from sin. That is one example how BoM talks against bible. Have you read the bible yet? Every mormon I meet tell me "pray if BoM is real and you will then know it is". What if you do the same with bible? So that you would discover all the lies in BoM? And you didn't answer my question yet, how many gods are there? :)
WE are sinful. Our bodies are not sinful in and of themselves. This is not contradictory to the Bible or the Book of Mormon.
I studied the Bible a lot before I joined the LDS church. We had Bible study a lot in the church I grew up in. I joined the LDS church in large part because of how Biblical it is. I had no problem with the Book of Mormon;in fact the Bible is much easier to understand now, says I am where God wants me to be. We spend two years studying the Bible in the LDS church.
So you think that body and soul are two separate things just like the ancient greek believed? Unlike the hebrews. And the fact that you are avoiding my question of how many gods are there just proves to me that BoM contradicts with bible a great deal. What were you teached in the bible lesson when you read "and when any of us or an angel of light preaches contradictiory of what we have preached he is to be condamned" Can't really accurately remember how it went but still.
There is a saying, we are not humans having a spiritual experience, we are spirits having a human experience. Unlike the ancient Greeks, we do not believe that the body is sinful and the spirit is not, we believe that both body and spirit must work together for exaltation.
There are three in the Godhead; The Father, the Son and the HOly Ghost. So when you ask how many gods, that's my answer. That's all I know of.
When Paul said to the galatians, if we or even an angel preaches any other gospel... he was speaking ofsome of the other apostles, some of whom believed that the gentiles must follow all the law of Moses to be considered followers of Christ. That's in the second chapter when it talks of the gospel of circumcision vs. uncircumcision. The "or an angel" part is a figure of speech, like "even if God Himself said it I wouldn't believe it" sort of thing. Hyperbole, I think it's called.
Well, thats just your church leaders putting it that way. The message in the bible is clear. It is not only whether or not you must obey the laws of moses, but to everything else as well. If you add something in the scriptures that equals one preaching false / altered truth. Bible is authority no.1
And when i asked you how many gods are there, I was hoping to open your eyes to realize that God is Alfa and Omega. There is no other, unlike the book of mormon blashpemys.
No, that's ME putting it that way. I actually READ the Bible. The message is clear and it has absolutely nothing to do with "the angel Moroni". We preach ONE Gospel, that of Jesus Christ. That's what Paul was talking about, the Galatians being told that they must follow the Law of Moses if they were going to be accepted as followers of Christ. Christ fulfilled the Law so that we no longer have to follow it to the letter, only to the spirit.
Not only you speak against your own understanding but against Bible as well. Pray for it and let God answer you, not the mormon president that you also call "prophet". I did pray for it and im convinced about the mormon herecy.
You are also right on Christ fulfilling the law. Still if I wanted the salvation mormon way, I should attend mormon meetings and be active on the church AND commit acts of "goodness". If you believe in God and trust him, let Him tell you what is right and what is not.
I speak against YOUR understanding. I have prayed, God has answered my prayers and I am right where HE wants me to be. When you have managed to prove to me that YOU are God's prophet, then perhaps I will listen to you rather than to God and His living prophet.
It matters not to me how you seek or find salvation. All I care about is that people don't reject us on what is false.
I believe God tells me what is right and what is not. I'm not wrong cause just I don't believe as you do.
There is a line of what you feel to be right and for what is right. I know a lot of mormons, they are good people, no doubt, but that's the thing. You sort of get hypnotized about the good feeling and your community. So I must say that I don't believe that God replyd to your prayer, or that you have even prayed for it. Bible says that you should test every prophet. I doubt you have, and even if you had, how can you see them to be wrong when you live in the false truth?
Right here is my biggest issue with christianity. They point fingers at each other in an attempt to get them thinking each others way. If all christians could just get along, perhaps more could be attracted to the religion. And yes, Mormons are christian.
holy crap....that's not the problem. the problem is that ALL of them find virtue in FAITH...defined as believing something without any proof whatsoever. Just completely nuts....and their only hope would be to drill holes their heads to let the demons out.
you are confusing the words evidence and proof I think. there are a ton of things that every human being believes without proof from a scientific perspective. for instance you probably have faith that the monitor you are reading this on won't randomly explode in your face, however this has happened at some points in time therefore you don't have proof so you do have faith in that reguard. also there is pleanty of evidence for the birth death and ressueraction of christ so christians aren't blind
holy crap....that's not the problem. the problem is that ALL of them find virtue in FAITH...defined as believing something without any proof whatsoever. Just completely nuts....and their only hope would be to drill holes in their heads to let the demons out.
this would depend on your definition of christian clearly most christians would claim that there are things that make a person a christian. a relying on Jesus as the only way to be saved from the consequences of our sin etc. Mormonism teaches things that are in direct contraction to the bible which christians since the first century have said is the word of God. did God change his mind?
Why pussyfoot around with mormonism by saying its teachings are not biblical when it can be disproved logically and scientifically?
In fact, you mentioned one of the logical problems with mormonism without really realizing it. If God has a father who had a father...then this is a logical impossibility. This is infinite regress.
ARE LDS (aka Mormons) CHRISTIANS? Listen all brothers and sisters there is no definitive statement of what constitutes Christianity to be found in the Bible other than in the church of Antioch were called Christians for first time.(New Testament | Acts 11:26)
If there were, there wouldn't be so many churches, some believing baptism to be essential, others saying it's not, some saying worship must be done on saturdays, others on sunday, for example.
What it boils down to is that many non members excludes us from Christianity because we LDS members don't believe exactly what they believe.
All words are subject to definition. Some have a variety of meanings, even seemingly contradictory at times, making it necessary to exercise discretion with regard to the context in which they are used.
The word Christian is one of them. People of many denominations regard themselves as Christians, even though their creeds vary widely. The Latter Day Saints have a defenition by which they establish their Christian status.
4 For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 115:4)How could we not be Christians when the Savior's name is the name of our church?
The reason people of diferent denominations who don't know us think we don't believe in Jesus Christ is that they know us only by NICKNAME ORIGINALLY given to us by our enemies and they still calling us... MORMONS.If you are not please call us The members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or LDS.
You talk about Mormans teaching about "god" being in the flesh, but doesn't all christianity teach this. Jesus being "god". How do we know that the bible is the truth. I could be the Quran, the Tibetian book of the dead or any number of books could be the truth.
Thank you for touching on this subject even if very briefly, Mormonism doesn't get covered much because it seems so harmless and many people believe it is a Christian denomination, which is what actually makes it so very dangerous
Come again? A religion created by taking another's religion and changing their perception of God is false? Like Christians taking the Jewish religion and creating a new perception of God as Jesus Christ? The word Smarmy just popped into my head just then. Yea, that's it, SMARMY.
The difference between Christianity and Mormonism, as each is compared to its religious predecessor, is that Mormonism claims to be Christian; Christianity does not claim to be Jewish. In order for Mormonism to be a legitimate religion, it must be Christian, and one look at the Christian teachings will show you it is not.
I used to have a video about Mormonism. It talked about the weird stuff they believe in such as, God has many wives on a planet not in our galaxy. That Jesus and satan are brothers, and the black race was punished with dark skin because they refused to fight in some war that God wanted them to.
The homosexual American evangelical preacher. Ted Arthur Haggard said "that most of the republican party is heterosexual but once a year they all go in the woods at Bohemian Grove its all male gang bang" .hahaa hahahahah ita fact look it up asshole
I think you would have been a bit more accurate to our beliefs if you had followed your memory without looking at that website... Almost everything you said sounds like a 15 year old's memory, 15 years later--and coupled with a website created by those paid to take advantage of people in your situation--meaning there's a bunch in you're video that's not really what Mormons believe. But good job not trying to play intellectual. That will serve you well in the future.
So the Jews made up a god, the Christians made up a son, and the Mormons made up a wife. If you agree that the wife is ridiculous it follows that the son and the god are equally so.
Haha - your logic for discrediting Mormonism is that the Bible contradicts it. The Quran condradicts the Bible, yet you're not a Muslim. How does your reasoning make sense?
You're really just saying their make-believe is less believable and consistent than your make-believe. To an outsider both mormonism and traditional christianity are both preposterous and have inconsistent beliefs. The way you perceive mormonism is the same way many people perceive all religions.
0xffff, Technically, if you listen to what he's saying in this video you'll see he is criticising Mormonism because they call themselves Christians, and he is pointing out the many ways in which their teachings completley contradict traditional Christianity. Get it?
hahahaha mormons are funny. the theory behind the religion is just...funny. yeah, id have to say christianity and islam, as unlikely as they are, are far more likely to be true.
Zeus and all the Greek gods are more likely than Joseph Smith Jr, being a prophet or even a translator of ancient languages. He was a con man, adulterer, and a pervert.
The main thing about the Mormons is that they are allowed lots of wives like Muslims. One patriarchal religion is the same as another. Boys want to rule the world if they have problems, scaredey cat...
You are losing it now. Science, mathematics, medicine, etc. are where I would go if I had a broken leg. I wouldn't rely on fairy tales. Harry Potter lives Hurrah! You cannot prove a negative, go on, I dare you.
vaga = god of heaven one that god wiped out by god Enok
now I hate most cristians for the fact your bible was parfraced from hundead's of books not 56 most cristains belived in 30 different gods in 60ad
Yet you don't know this becuase its not thought.
Jesus said in the revalation of timithy that every person in hell will go to heaven but yet no one talks about that.
Or the fact that there is only one god but you would need 1000's to run heaven and I have to say this comes from a Wiccan
nasculehakoo 10 months ago
You look like you need a shower.
Billybob11niner 10 months ago
Mormonism? Oh you mean The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Haha maybe you should read The Book of Mormon and even study LDS before you bash it. You don't become a God of your own planet. You are lying. Becoming a God as in perfect and clean. If you read the bible it talks about the 3 kingdoms . Yet you believe in the trinity, something not mentioned in the bible, many passages show the separation of father and son..Trinity is a PAGAN tradition. You are the false one.
Hooahgoarmy 1 year ago
Wrong! So mutch wrong!
Im lisening and im cant hellp to feeal sory for this guy. If he had studied the Book Of Mormon and aksed people who knows stuf about the LDS. Then he would proberly stil be a member. To bad he dont even try to anderstand. Or maby his parents were ideots, who dident know anyting.
chrstilen5 1 year ago
You are off on a few of those "beliefs" I think your memory of Mormonism is mixing non doctrinal speculations with official teachings. They are often confused. Plus there are trivial doctrines that have no bearing on salvation. Unless you want to believe in salvation by 100% correct doctrine. People will have all sorts of doctrines they either don't understand or have wrong and it won't matter at all unless it somehow prevents you from following Christ and truly becoming like him.
trencher7 1 year ago
exactly... man, I can't stand it when people have to pervert God's Word.
Jurassicprince 1 year ago
Moronism?
6969carmen6969 2 years ago
Correct their is only one God and Mormon theology teaches the wrong things: I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isa: 45:5 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Eph: 4:6
tosemail1 2 years ago
Jesusfreak77 : yes, Please call and cancel your memebership with the LDS. lol :0
iluvthearts 2 years ago 2
For the most part (only a few details were off), you portrayal of Mormon theology was accurate. There are some intensive studies I have done in Old Testament academic theology to make me realize that your arguments are less than convincing (especially concerning Jesus and Lucifer being brothers). However, I realize your critique of Mormonism is coming from a reformed/Calvinistic type theology and you strike me as a modest person who is giving a humble opinion... so no need to bash you. LOL
AcademicTheologian 2 years ago
Thanks, I found it good to know that your ex-mormon. I have LDS in my family. Therefore I know how they are. My own Bishop uncle lied to me about Mormons believe and teach,,, and then for some reason he gave me an LDS book called,, the gospel principles. It proved to me that Mormonism is from the pit of Hell and is indeed a cult,,, and that Mormons will lie to anyone and everyone about hat they truly believe. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
How2BecomeAChristian 2 years ago
Mat Ch. 3:
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
It kind of shows 3 seperate beings. Why would God talk to himself and call himself his son? You think that God, if he were Jesus on the earth, would just speak as God instead of God speaking from heaven.
Noticemenow 3 years ago
sounds pretty subjective to me buddy
jjdmanjj 3 years ago
It says in the bible that jesus christ is the only begotten SON of god. not that he is god. meaning hello GOD and Jesus are two different people. Dont sit here and try to force your veiws on other people and get your facts straight and do a bit more research And dont bash the temple just because you have never been there. Baptisms for the dead are a very sacred and special thing. And you dont become a god of your own planet you can become like a god.Dont bash other religions you have no right.
sydster88 3 years ago
@sydster88 i know this comment was posted a long time ago but i read it and wanted to reply beause in fact the bible clearly states that Jesus is God. In John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God." And then it goes on to say in verse John 1:14 "And the word became flesh, and dwelt among us." Also in John 14 it says "He who has seen me has seen the Father, so how can you say, show us the Father?" There are many more verses, but these are just some.
cttballer23 1 year ago
well said my good man lol evven though its all abunch of crap the more of it that doesnt make sense the better
xxcalmaxx 3 years ago
Have you heard of the Book Of Mormon? Just so you know. The Bible was translated by many different people, so technically it's not totally true. That's why we have the Book of Mormon to help us better understand Christ, and the meaning of the Bible. So, just because the Bible said something, doesn't mean it is necessarily true.
Constantinople5 3 years ago
everything wrote everywhere doesn't mean it's necessarily true. It all could be false
absongs 3 years ago
Heavenly Father had a plan for us. Heavenly Father asked who will go down to earth and be the only begotten son, and the savior of all on this Earth? Both Jesus Christ and Satan volunteered. Satan or Lucifer said here I am send me,free will will not be allowed, not a soul will be lost, but your glory will be mine. Jesus Christ said here I am send me, and your glory will be your own, and men will pratice free will.
bellokswg 3 years ago
if one is to speculate why Heavenly Father would emphasis so much on union between a man and a wife, there is a reason for that. Perhaps the best thing a man and a woman, or a god and a godess can do is to create life. whether it is spiritually or physically. This leads to us now. The Bible does talk about pre earth life, this is the time we were created as spiritual beings, essentially spirit brothers and sisters. You were there, I was there and jesus christ and satan were there also.
bellokswg 3 years ago
I believe it is in genesis, about pre earth life in the bible. Pretty much tho, before all things are created physically, they are created spiritually. I believe this is the true power of godhood. I believe the mechanics we have to bring a child into this physical life, is essentially the same as it is spiritually. Although to bring a spiritual child into life is a much higher degree of responsibility. It is not written in the bible however how it is done however..........
bellokswg 3 years ago
This verse in the Bible.....and not in the Book of Mormon is very important. It shows us the very nature of God. It does explain one thing. First There is the Father, and the son. Seperating the two as seperate entities. Second, it tells you that you have the chance to rule along side Jesus Christ, and his father. although it doesn't state it in this verse, I do have a feeling our Heavenly Father has gone through a life of trials and tribulations just like us.
bellokswg 3 years ago
Sorry i messed up on that verse..... To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my father in his throne. This is Jesus Christ talking to John explaining that if we overcome..... overcome what? our trials and tribulations? We will be granted to sit with him in his throne, even as he overcame.....overcame what? Trials and tribulations? He is set down with his father....who is father? God? Heavenly father? In his throne.
bellokswg 3 years ago
I honestly respect your opinion. I would like to share however some scriptures that I think you should seriously read for yourself, sear ponder and pray about. Rev 3, verse 21. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne.
bellokswg 3 years ago
I like some of your points about Mormonism; however the word "logic" and the Bible don't really go together. I think you can say that Mormon teachings are not in accord with the Bible, but the Bible is a work that is filled with illogical inconsistencies that could only be reconciled by some kind of faith in mystery. To say that the Bible is logical, while Mormonism is not, is--well--illogical.
apsara81cloud 3 years ago
I like the armoire in the background--is that real wood or veneer?
apsara81cloud 3 years ago
And a small add to the "angel of light" thing. Do you know what was the first lie satan ever told to man? "You can become gods". What does mormonism teach? Holy enough, you can become a god. For me the message is clear, 1+1=2, not 3. I will keep praying for you mormons.
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
And I will keep praying to you.
lindalds 3 years ago
Actually the first lie that Satan told them was that they would surely not die. Genesis 3:22 says that they DID become as the gods, knowing good and evil, which was what they were told.
lindalds 3 years ago 2
Mormonism, is like Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Scientology, and Christianity mixed together.
Mormonism is not Christianity.
venomscurse3 3 years ago
They are all the same. All bullshit myths written by hustlers. This dope is just another brainwashed rube.
tattypatty 3 years ago
Wow, didn't know you were a mormon. It goes in my family as well, my dads uncle is a some sort of "chief" mormon where he lives. The other uncle converted first, but then he converted into christianity, inspiration of Holy spirit he said.
My best friend is also a mormon and went to salt lake to learn greek for hes two-year "missionary" ;_; I pray for him that hes eyes would be opened for the Christian God.
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
Did you Jezuzfreek777 grew up rough? Seeing your video's, it seems like you got to know Jesus Christ in your 20's. Keep up the good work and God Bless.
Peolpe4Christ 3 years ago
jezuzfreek777 is on the right path, but he is only halfway there yet. he has seen through the Mormon charade...GOOD. Now, on to the next step. He has to see Christianity for what it is too and reject it also. Then, and only then, he will be free and able to think for himself and, I can tell you, that, once free of the fetters of Christianity, it is simply amazing how clear it all becomes. Once the Bible 'God' is out of the picture, all things fall easily into place and we can progress.
zideffil 3 years ago
amen, i love your videos, i was actually going to do this. watch "the book of mormon vs the bible" and "the maze of mormonism." i have a question though, what is everything that is considered blaspheming? because Mohamed claimed to be the Comforter (holy spirit) in the new testament, would that be included?
JesusDisciple777 3 years ago
Basically, you are saying your book disagrees with theirs, therefore they're wrong. Perhaps you are all wrong.
matt1746 3 years ago
Jesus doesn't himself say he is alpha and omega, it was a dream
utaufiq2 3 years ago
You know, saying you can't believe in a God that was once a man, etc., is like saying you can't work for that supermarket because the CEO used to be a bag boy or something.
lindalds 3 years ago
Did you know taht, in Missouri, until 1976, that it was technically legal for someone to kill a Mormon just for being Mormon? That's how long the Extermination order stayed in effect.
lindalds 3 years ago
Archaic laws are interesting. But just because they had a law on the books doesn't mean that it was being enforced, though that is how you represent it.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
I know, it would have been challenged in court and stuff, but still, if someone was killed, even the Supreme court couldn't bring them back to life.
lindalds 3 years ago
Someone was killed, but it wasn't because he was mormon. But when they found out that the dead guy was a mormons, they used that archaic law as a defense, which is what led to the state's officially taking the law off the books.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
The Alpha and the Omega does refer to God. This is true with reference to clock time and without the concept of time as understood by the human mind. Jesus being, Only Begotten is refering to being born on earth by the power of the Holy Spirit throught the Virgin Mary. I will pray for you brother Jezuzfreek777.
BraveNoble 3 years ago
Mormons cannot claim to be Christians because they don't accept the teachings of our Lord. Christ is the ONE God, as there is only ONE. If there was ever a bride of the Lord it is the Church!
svobodinya 3 years ago
We do accept the teachings of our Lord, we just don't always accept the teachings of our Lord as interpreted by others.
lindalds 3 years ago
Mormonism is anti-christian, and its leaders have had some very nasty things to say concerning christianity.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
They were anti-"Christians of that day". They were still a little p.o.ed about Nauvoo and Hauns Mill and Far West and all that other stuff.
lindalds 3 years ago
A lot of their nasty criticism toward christianity came before Nauvoo even existed.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
There was a lot of persecution before Nauvoo. Haun's Mill was Missouri. And in Ohio, Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered, while his baby died of measles, because he was taking care of him when other men thought it would be fun to douse him in hot tar and then feathers.
lindalds 3 years ago
Joseph was a pervert, and was almost castrated for his sexual improprieties but the surgeon backed out at the last minute, and then joseph was tarred and feathered as a form of vigilante justice. He had it coming to him. The sicko had 30+ wives, some as young as 14. He is just like, or worse than,the perverts in the FLDS mormon cult in Texas who just had their kids justly taken away.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
Wow, are you making this stuff up yourself, or are you parroting some anti-Mormon somewhere? I need proof of all your stupid allegations.
lindalds 3 years ago
I'm not an anti mormon--I'm a mormon and my family are all mormon. I just don't believe in the church's false teachings or whitewashed history. It is amazing how little mormons know about their own religion's history. Are you even aware that JS had more than one wife?
johnPhilos 3 years ago
Of course, he had a lot of women that were sealed to him. Everyone knows that. A couple that might have even lived with him as a wife, same as Emma. But, since there have been no records of any children between him and any woman other than Emma, there's no reason to believe that he was some randy lecher out for what he could get. If that were the case, then he would have never advocated MARRIAGE. He would have never ex'd John Bennett!
lindalds 3 years ago
Emma Smith, Joseph's first wife, while peeking through a hole in the barn. saw their 15 year old maid getting nailed by her husband. Time and DNA tests will soon help us determine how many kids Joseph had with other mens wives. I don't believe Joseph had no kids with his wives and their is evidence that his marriages were not platonic.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
And it matters not if you are a member or not, you ARE anti-Mormon. And if you are a member, that makes it even worse.
lindalds 3 years ago
lindalds demonstrates why people consider mormonism a cult. When you criticize their absurd beliefs they are taught to assume you are either evil or ignorant. They use labels like "anti-mormon" to frighten other believers from reading those contrary writings etc. I am not "anti-mormon". Yes I am anti-cult, and anti-racism, and anti-brainwashing, and anti-ignorance but I don't hate mormons just because I hate their religion.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
The mormons did their fair share of killing innocent women and children. They don't like to talk about that as much.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
Give me some names and places. Other than Mountain Meadow.
lindalds 3 years ago
How is that fair of you to bring up the big events perpetrated against mormons, and then say don't bring up MMM? Mountain Meadow Massacre, September 11th 1857, under the mormon church's resulted in the execution of over 120 men, women and children-it was the single largest terrorist attack on this soil until muslims flew planes into our buildings.
Show me where 120 mormons were massacred in similar fashion before we dismiss MMM. "Haun's Mill massacre" only resulted in 19 deaths.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
You said "The mormons did their fair share of killing innocent women and children. They don't like to talk about that as much." and I want something besides MMM where any Mormons did this. Back up your accusations, or take it back. Where, besides the MMM, did any Mormons kill innocent women and children?
Besides, there were more than Haun's Mill. If you count every Mormon who died before getting to Salt Lake valley, then there were hundreds killed by terrorism.
lindalds 3 years ago
THe mormons who died by natural causes because they chose to follow a false prophet across the dessert doesn't qualify as an act of terrorism. IE Martin and Willie handcart company had many casualties because they left too late in the season. It was their ignorance that killed them. More would have died if it weren't for mormons including my ancestors didn't go save them. You can't find any acts perpetrated against mormons that equal that of MMM, can you?
johnPhilos 3 years ago
Natural because they chose to go, rather than stay in Illinois/Missouri and get raided, mobbed, raped, and killed. Some choice.
I SAID, you said Mormons did their fair share of killing innocent women and children, and OTHER THAN MMM, what other killings did Mormons do? Or was MMM the only instance of "their fair share"?
lindalds 3 years ago
Martin and Willie handcart company came from England. They weren't driven out from anywhere, and no one made any them go across the desert. Emma Smith, Joseph's first wife, had no problem staying behind in Nauvoo. MMM was more than their fair share of killing innocent people. And of course thats not all the killing they ever did, but that event was monumental in its wickedness.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
If they didn't go to Utah territory, where would they go? Back to England? They needed to be with their people. And their people were chased out of every home they had ever made, by mobs of men who raped, pillaged, and murdered, everyone who was "Mormon".
lindalds 3 years ago
They didn't have to leave England in the first place. No one forced them to come over, and they knew the mormons had moved on to Utah when they departed. The mormon church paid the way of many of the poor English. There were more than just mormons who traveled west for their own reasons as well, and some of them also suffered losses. The smarter ones didn't leave to cross the country late in the season.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
But if it hadn't been for mob violence in Missouri and Illinois, they never would have gone west, or at least, not when they did.
lindalds 3 years ago
You want an example where more Christians died? Jonestown. Worlds largest mass suicide, 906 people i think, american evangelical christians
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
Please read the scriptures. The Church is the bride of Christ. We, the Chruch are called to be one with Christ, joint heirs in the Kingdom of Heaven. I will pray for jezuzfreak777 and svobodinya. May the love and peace of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ be with you always.
BraveNoble 3 years ago
Excuse me but we do NOT teach that Jesus and Satan were PHYSICAL brothers as Lucifer/Satan has NEVER had a physical body. That is just wrong.
lindalds 3 years ago
I think if more Mormons spent more time actually studying the word of GOD (The Bible), theyd see the truth, on thier own.
MystSilverDragon 3 years ago
I joined the LDS church because I spent more time with the Bible. It's the most Biblical church, IMHO. And the more I study the Bible the more I know that I am right where God wants me.
Why do people assume that if I just read my Bible, I'd not be Mormon? it's not the case at all!
lindalds 3 years ago
You can see where teaching that Jesus & Satan were brothers, equal, may lead to future problems easily........like thinking just because Satan had a differing opinion concerning the handling of menkind, he was tossed? But see its not the case at all. Satan was an arch-angel as the Bible describes, yes he was once favored, but he fell from Grace because, he became full of himself, & wanted to be as GOD himself, which is impossible and that view of oneself is an abomination to GOD.......
MystSilverDragon 3 years ago
Great Video! Thanks :)
MystSilverDragon 3 years ago
Yes, I was taught in the mormon church yrs ago, that men could become like a god themselves, create thier own planets, populate them themselves,and that Satan was the brother of Jesus (in fact, the 1st born)........All, of course are utter lies told by menkind who let thier egos/carnality lead them astray from the only wasy to GOD, which is Christ himself, & yepp, there is only ONE GOD, & hes not an earthly member of menkind today. ;)
MystSilverDragon 3 years ago
good job man. good points. thanks.
xchampx 3 years ago
Good video jesusfreak
KempoJoe87 3 years ago
clearly mormonism makes a lot more sense the bible. in the book of mormon it never says that a man can live inside a whale for 3 days, or that giants or unicorns ever existed, or that men can break down a wall with their voices, which is just crazy. clearly christianity has all the answers..............
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
Other bizarre beliefs don't make mormonism less ridiculous.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
no it just makes other beliefs equally as rediculous
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
No, some beliefs are more absurd than others, and mormonism and scientology are near the top of the list of ridiculous belief systems.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
are you a christian? cuz there's parts in the bible that are pretty weird. and btw your personal attack on mormonism and scientology is meaningless, Norse and Egyptian theology is pretty weird
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
Why do people keep up bringing other bizarre beliefs as a justification for other weird beliefs? So what if the Pagans had/have weird beliefs. Mormonism is still patently absurd. The biggest difference between cults like mormonism and scientology is that they are more obviously false than other religions.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
still havent answered me, what faith or non-faith are you? Im an atheist so all theology is wrong and delusional to me, especially when it has such a large influence over such a large amount of people.
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
I don't have a belief in any god or religion. Like I said though some religions are more absurd than others. The FLDS mormons in Texas who are marrying their underage girls, are clearly in a more insane religion than say Baptists, but they are still better of than those who were in "The Peoples Temple"
johnPhilos 3 years ago
(john) so are you atheist? pedofiles and fanatics, just like politicans have long ago worked out that religion is a great excuse and method of trickery. that doesnt mean the religion is any more weird than another, just those individuals. christians (which the peoples temple were) are to believe a lot mor far fetched stuff than mormons
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
As you see the Peoples temple group is stranger than mormonism and most versions of christianity, mormonism is more bizarre than most mainstream christianity. Mormons like to point out the absurdities in Christianity and they somehow think that the strangeness of that somehow justifies their weird beliefs. Moronism, unlike some christian groups, believe the bible very literally, then add superstitions to burden the faithful with--further removing them from reality.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
I think it's everyone else who needs to face reality.
lindalds 3 years ago
We are talking about non-superstitious reality, not your deluded religions version of reality.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
waoh! that really just shows how much you know about mormonism. Mormons do not believe in the bible at all. they believe it has been tainted, altered and edited, which is very true.
Christians believe that a man can live inside a whale for 3 days, or that giants or unicorns existed, or that men can break down a wall with their voices. They would prefer that a virgin girl be gang raped to death than a man be beaten. They believe in an invisible sky daddy who just was always there. THATS weird!!!
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
Mormons believe the bible is true as "far as it is translated correctly" which essentially means they don't agree with parts that contradict mormonism.Muslims say the same thing about the bible--they agree with it when it agrees with them. Mormons generally have a literal view of the bible.The temple ceremony basically a reenactment of the garden of eden, which mormons believe really happened, (but not in talking snake).They also believe in the Noah's Flood, Moses' magic, and the resurrection.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
Which parts of the Bible do we not agree with? Which parts are against "Mormonism"? You can find parts that YOU INTERPRET as being against "Mormonism", but, we WILL agree with them, just not the way you interpret them.
lindalds 3 years ago
You ignorant moron, I'm arguing that you do believe in the bible. But I have to explain to "iliketoburnthings" what mormons mean when they say the bible has been altered.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
I would argue as to who is the ignorant one here.
When you know what we mean when we say something, then you can explain, but you don't know.
We DO believe in the Bible, 100% of the Bible, nothing in the Bible disagrees with what we believe. Nothing in the Bible contradicts what we believe.
lindalds 3 years ago
(john....again) first of all, my name is ilike2burnthing, subtle difference but its there. second, there is no need to be rude in your response to lindalds, (s)he has said nothing offensive to you. so yes indeed, you are the one being ignorant now
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
(John) yes, and i would know many Christians that would believe that these things happened too. In fact all Christians did before science started to challenge these ideas as being impossible.
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
We believe the Bible to be the word of God, as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God. Eighth article of faith.
lindalds 3 years ago
The Book of Mormon is the most perfect book written, am I right in saying this is what you believe? And would you also agree with Joseph Smith's statement, that he was more successful at keeping the Church together than Jesus Christ? (again i am an atheist so dont worry about offending me)
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
No, it's the most CORRECT book. That's not perfect, nor does it mean that it's 100% correct in things like grammer.
I don't know that I agree with his statement or not, but I don't disagree.
lindalds 3 years ago
well if it is the most correct book then why have there been 3913 changes made to the original translation and why are there still anachronisms in the text?
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
It's not our beliefs that are weird, it's what people like you SAY we believe that's weird.
Our beliefs are no MORE weird than any one else's beliefs. I think that's what ilike2 is saying.
lindalds 3 years ago
(lindalds) do you believe that God was once mortal and ascended to Godhood and that we too can do the same? If so, this makes Him no more important in the universe than our next stage in evolution and is in no way worthy of worship.
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
There is but one only living and true God, who is infinite in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts, or passions, immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible, almighty, most wise, most holy, most free, most absolute
Is this your god? He sounds weird, and totally contradictory to me, and this IS the god that most non-LDS Christians believe in, no matter what they say.
God, to me, is more what you describe, than what I did.
lindalds 3 years ago
Well i am Atheist, so I am ruled by no God, but nor shall I bow before any man.
Yes the Christian God is indeed a contradiction, all knowing, all powerful, but yet acts suprised, jealous, angry, betrayed, vengful when a child is disrespectful to his parents or a man picks up sticks on the sabbath for a fire for his freezing family. Or would prefer a virgin girl be raped to death than a grown man be beaten.
What is your God then?
ilike2burnthing 3 years ago
Just where did you pick "without body, parts, or passions" from? You do realize that mormon belief is really no different from hindu religion? Reincarnation, rings any bells?
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
"without body parts or passions" is from, I believe, the Westminster Confession (have to look it up again, but I think it's there at least).
Reincarnation is the belief that the soul keeps inhabiting other mortal bodies until it "gets it right". We believe you only get ONE body. Although I can see a parallel.
lindalds 3 years ago
Bible quite clearly states that your body is sinful. By the time of resurrection christians will get glorified bodys that are apart from sin. That is one example how BoM talks against bible. Have you read the bible yet? Every mormon I meet tell me "pray if BoM is real and you will then know it is". What if you do the same with bible? So that you would discover all the lies in BoM? And you didn't answer my question yet, how many gods are there? :)
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
WE are sinful. Our bodies are not sinful in and of themselves. This is not contradictory to the Bible or the Book of Mormon.
I studied the Bible a lot before I joined the LDS church. We had Bible study a lot in the church I grew up in. I joined the LDS church in large part because of how Biblical it is. I had no problem with the Book of Mormon;in fact the Bible is much easier to understand now, says I am where God wants me to be. We spend two years studying the Bible in the LDS church.
lindalds 3 years ago
So you think that body and soul are two separate things just like the ancient greek believed? Unlike the hebrews. And the fact that you are avoiding my question of how many gods are there just proves to me that BoM contradicts with bible a great deal. What were you teached in the bible lesson when you read "and when any of us or an angel of light preaches contradictiory of what we have preached he is to be condamned" Can't really accurately remember how it went but still.
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
There is a saying, we are not humans having a spiritual experience, we are spirits having a human experience. Unlike the ancient Greeks, we do not believe that the body is sinful and the spirit is not, we believe that both body and spirit must work together for exaltation.
There are three in the Godhead; The Father, the Son and the HOly Ghost. So when you ask how many gods, that's my answer. That's all I know of.
2 b cont.
lindalds 3 years ago
When Paul said to the galatians, if we or even an angel preaches any other gospel... he was speaking ofsome of the other apostles, some of whom believed that the gentiles must follow all the law of Moses to be considered followers of Christ. That's in the second chapter when it talks of the gospel of circumcision vs. uncircumcision. The "or an angel" part is a figure of speech, like "even if God Himself said it I wouldn't believe it" sort of thing. Hyperbole, I think it's called.
lindalds 3 years ago
Well, thats just your church leaders putting it that way. The message in the bible is clear. It is not only whether or not you must obey the laws of moses, but to everything else as well. If you add something in the scriptures that equals one preaching false / altered truth. Bible is authority no.1
And when i asked you how many gods are there, I was hoping to open your eyes to realize that God is Alfa and Omega. There is no other, unlike the book of mormon blashpemys.
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
No, that's ME putting it that way. I actually READ the Bible. The message is clear and it has absolutely nothing to do with "the angel Moroni". We preach ONE Gospel, that of Jesus Christ. That's what Paul was talking about, the Galatians being told that they must follow the Law of Moses if they were going to be accepted as followers of Christ. Christ fulfilled the Law so that we no longer have to follow it to the letter, only to the spirit.
False/altered truth is what you say, not what is.
lindalds 3 years ago
Not only you speak against your own understanding but against Bible as well. Pray for it and let God answer you, not the mormon president that you also call "prophet". I did pray for it and im convinced about the mormon herecy.
You are also right on Christ fulfilling the law. Still if I wanted the salvation mormon way, I should attend mormon meetings and be active on the church AND commit acts of "goodness". If you believe in God and trust him, let Him tell you what is right and what is not.
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
I speak against YOUR understanding. I have prayed, God has answered my prayers and I am right where HE wants me to be. When you have managed to prove to me that YOU are God's prophet, then perhaps I will listen to you rather than to God and His living prophet.
It matters not to me how you seek or find salvation. All I care about is that people don't reject us on what is false.
I believe God tells me what is right and what is not. I'm not wrong cause just I don't believe as you do.
lindalds 3 years ago
There is a line of what you feel to be right and for what is right. I know a lot of mormons, they are good people, no doubt, but that's the thing. You sort of get hypnotized about the good feeling and your community. So I must say that I don't believe that God replyd to your prayer, or that you have even prayed for it. Bible says that you should test every prophet. I doubt you have, and even if you had, how can you see them to be wrong when you live in the false truth?
antiperspirantti 3 years ago
Are you Christian?
lindalds 3 years ago
you have horrible grammar. it's all i could focus on, besides your bullshit "points".
jayyrules 3 years ago
Joseph smith what were you thinking.
123625 4 years ago
Doesn't wash with you? I doubt there is much that washes with you.
Oh and if you don't like Mormons I suggest you go to Hell. You won't find any Mormons there.
Bureyeanne 4 years ago
haha! ye u will
sweetallie22 4 years ago
unfortunately you would find Mormons in hell. The correct question to ask, Would you find them in heaven?
JTownSmith 3 years ago
that's what I said, sweetheart
sweetallie22 3 years ago
I was referring to Bureyeanne
JTownSmith 3 years ago
reply to him then
sweetallie22 3 years ago
mormons are crazy...good video. God bless you
budbandit25 4 years ago
I love you videos JezuzFreek :)
God Bless
aodStacy 4 years ago
wow ur ex-mormon?
Christ really changed you. Thats awesome!
quilesboy 4 years ago
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So Christ makes you a stupid redneck?
Bureyeanne 4 years ago
Thank you, and God Bless
PakistanF16 4 years ago
Right here is my biggest issue with christianity. They point fingers at each other in an attempt to get them thinking each others way. If all christians could just get along, perhaps more could be attracted to the religion. And yes, Mormons are christian.
TheJosephShow 4 years ago
holy crap....that's not the problem. the problem is that ALL of them find virtue in FAITH...defined as believing something without any proof whatsoever. Just completely nuts....and their only hope would be to drill holes their heads to let the demons out.
scudder99 4 years ago
you are confusing the words evidence and proof I think. there are a ton of things that every human being believes without proof from a scientific perspective. for instance you probably have faith that the monitor you are reading this on won't randomly explode in your face, however this has happened at some points in time therefore you don't have proof so you do have faith in that reguard. also there is pleanty of evidence for the birth death and ressueraction of christ so christians aren't blind
rlwrgh 3 years ago
holy crap....that's not the problem. the problem is that ALL of them find virtue in FAITH...defined as believing something without any proof whatsoever. Just completely nuts....and their only hope would be to drill holes in their heads to let the demons out.
scudder99 4 years ago
this would depend on your definition of christian clearly most christians would claim that there are things that make a person a christian. a relying on Jesus as the only way to be saved from the consequences of our sin etc. Mormonism teaches things that are in direct contraction to the bible which christians since the first century have said is the word of God. did God change his mind?
rlwrgh 3 years ago
Why pussyfoot around with mormonism by saying its teachings are not biblical when it can be disproved logically and scientifically?
In fact, you mentioned one of the logical problems with mormonism without really realizing it. If God has a father who had a father...then this is a logical impossibility. This is infinite regress.
fubecabr 4 years ago
good point
rlwrgh 3 years ago
First I tend to enjoy your video
samanthakayee 4 years ago
ARE LDS (aka Mormons) CHRISTIANS? Listen all brothers and sisters there is no definitive statement of what constitutes Christianity to be found in the Bible other than in the church of Antioch were called Christians for first time.(New Testament | Acts 11:26)
samanthakayee 4 years ago 2
If there were, there wouldn't be so many churches, some believing baptism to be essential, others saying it's not, some saying worship must be done on saturdays, others on sunday, for example.
What it boils down to is that many non members excludes us from Christianity because we LDS members don't believe exactly what they believe.
samanthakayee 4 years ago
All words are subject to definition. Some have a variety of meanings, even seemingly contradictory at times, making it necessary to exercise discretion with regard to the context in which they are used.
The word Christian is one of them. People of many denominations regard themselves as Christians, even though their creeds vary widely. The Latter Day Saints have a defenition by which they establish their Christian status.
samanthakayee 4 years ago
4 For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 115:4)How could we not be Christians when the Savior's name is the name of our church?
samanthakayee 4 years ago
The reason people of diferent denominations who don't know us think we don't believe in Jesus Christ is that they know us only by NICKNAME ORIGINALLY given to us by our enemies and they still calling us... MORMONS.If you are not please call us The members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or LDS.
samanthakayee 4 years ago
Hmm, the offical name for N. Korea is "The Democratic People's Republic of Korea." They must be democratic and republican.
Ditto for China. It's official name is the "People's Republic of China." It must be republican!!!! It says so in the name!!!!
fubecabr 4 years ago
This was excellent. Thank you for taking the time to refute Mormon teachings. I feel better about what I'd say if ever confronted with one.
sadlostlamb 4 years ago
your name is anthony? but thats my name! cool!
zzbullan 4 years ago
BTW I still think your a great guy. God bless you
apacalypse781 4 years ago
Bible teaching and Morman teaching mirror each other anthony. no matter how much you want to spin it.
apacalypse781 4 years ago
You talk about Mormans teaching about "god" being in the flesh, but doesn't all christianity teach this. Jesus being "god". How do we know that the bible is the truth. I could be the Quran, the Tibetian book of the dead or any number of books could be the truth.
apacalypse781 4 years ago
Thank you for touching on this subject even if very briefly, Mormonism doesn't get covered much because it seems so harmless and many people believe it is a Christian denomination, which is what actually makes it so very dangerous
ZeroShift5000 4 years ago
Come again? A religion created by taking another's religion and changing their perception of God is false? Like Christians taking the Jewish religion and creating a new perception of God as Jesus Christ? The word Smarmy just popped into my head just then. Yea, that's it, SMARMY.
RandusOz 4 years ago
The difference between Christianity and Mormonism, as each is compared to its religious predecessor, is that Mormonism claims to be Christian; Christianity does not claim to be Jewish. In order for Mormonism to be a legitimate religion, it must be Christian, and one look at the Christian teachings will show you it is not.
leroyinc 4 years ago
I used to have a video about Mormonism. It talked about the weird stuff they believe in such as, God has many wives on a planet not in our galaxy. That Jesus and satan are brothers, and the black race was punished with dark skin because they refused to fight in some war that God wanted them to.
Really bizarre stuff, man.
RaptureMe2 4 years ago
The homosexual American evangelical preacher. Ted Arthur Haggard said "that most of the republican party is heterosexual but once a year they all go in the woods at Bohemian Grove its all male gang bang" .hahaa hahahahah ita fact look it up asshole
Anunnaki322 4 years ago
I think you would have been a bit more accurate to our beliefs if you had followed your memory without looking at that website... Almost everything you said sounds like a 15 year old's memory, 15 years later--and coupled with a website created by those paid to take advantage of people in your situation--meaning there's a bunch in you're video that's not really what Mormons believe. But good job not trying to play intellectual. That will serve you well in the future.
mrcolj 4 years ago
out of curiosity what beliefs did he mention that are not in the Mormon religion?
rlwrgh 3 years ago
God bless ya man, be strong, serve God only.
stuart20017 4 years ago
Mormon, christian, muslim, whatever. It's all bunk.
video.google . com/videoplay?docid=5216975979627863972
dogmanstar66 4 years ago
So the Jews made up a god, the Christians made up a son, and the Mormons made up a wife. If you agree that the wife is ridiculous it follows that the son and the god are equally so.
happyjesus123 4 years ago
"Only a fool would read the bible and decide they don't like it and say that they are going to change it and redefine who god is".
LOL I think you pwned yourself with that sentence man, and judging by the way you act after you say it, it looks like you know it too!
TheAmazingRandi 4 years ago
Haha - your logic for discrediting Mormonism is that the Bible contradicts it. The Quran condradicts the Bible, yet you're not a Muslim. How does your reasoning make sense?
TheAmazingRandi 4 years ago
Most ex-mormons become atheists/ agnostics...good to see you still believe in God.
bryanleo9 4 years ago
Keep on coming!
matros22 4 years ago
You're really just saying their make-believe is less believable and consistent than your make-believe. To an outsider both mormonism and traditional christianity are both preposterous and have inconsistent beliefs. The way you perceive mormonism is the same way many people perceive all religions.
0xffff 4 years ago
0xffff, Technically, if you listen to what he's saying in this video you'll see he is criticising Mormonism because they call themselves Christians, and he is pointing out the many ways in which their teachings completley contradict traditional Christianity. Get it?
AYDthatsMe 4 years ago
hahahaha mormons are funny. the theory behind the religion is just...funny. yeah, id have to say christianity and islam, as unlikely as they are, are far more likely to be true.
xnightxamex 4 years ago
Zeus and all the Greek gods are more likely than Joseph Smith Jr, being a prophet or even a translator of ancient languages. He was a con man, adulterer, and a pervert.
johnPhilos 3 years ago
Go and see the new Simpsons film to see yourself..will it make you laugh?
Punctum90 4 years ago
The main thing about the Mormons is that they are allowed lots of wives like Muslims. One patriarchal religion is the same as another. Boys want to rule the world if they have problems, scaredey cat...
Punctum90 4 years ago
Mormons are allowed multiple wives now or was that in the past? Muslims can have multiple wives now, mormons stopped the practice a long time ago.
bryanleo9 4 years ago
no they can still do it, if the law allows them to.
zzbullan 4 years ago
We stopped the practice of polygamy years ago. it is just a common misconception many people have about mormonism.
music4lifeut 4 years ago
i know i did an interview with some mormons last week and they explained that too me.
zzbullan 4 years ago
You are losing it now. Science, mathematics, medicine, etc. are where I would go if I had a broken leg. I wouldn't rely on fairy tales. Harry Potter lives Hurrah! You cannot prove a negative, go on, I dare you.
Punctum90 4 years ago
go harry potter!!!
xnightxamex 4 years ago
Ah ha! You are looking for your daddy!
Punctum90 4 years ago