A grand master of this discipline who was teaching green berets in USA was challanged for full contact demostration by one of the members with pervous martial arts training. Result was that guy who challanged him suffered a broken wrist and arm in two places.
@danfusavig What the hell makes it "not" aikido?!?!?! This IS aikido...it's just not YOUR aikido. Learn some humility and respect. Also learn to think outside of the box.
I´d like to know who runs to an opponent as an idiot like this, with the arm streched. Aikido only works against idiots like those. Even a untrained street fighter do best.
there is nobody who really tries to harm the master.. i know its just for demonstration but who does it work in real fight on the street for example.. i wouldnt have the time to thing about how to turn and move?? of course it needs a long time to learn but when somebody comes up and beat you first its over :-) i like all this stuff but question is how effective it would be in real fight.. only from proboxers i know that they can stand a real streetfight, because of their speed and power for exam
I've trained this stuff some years ago and it actually becomes reflex pretty fast :) now I've never been in a street fight - and hope not to - but I think some of this would be pretty effective... at least it has some element of surprise...
I remember this guy from UFC or PRIDE FC. LOL , his students are the true warriors . Can you imagine the "let's try that last strange ass punch thing I counter again?" But who knows,maybe they are just "special". Anywho we all know there are no losers in the special O---
I'm sure it all made sense, but he really forgot to explain it all to anyone. He forgot to make sure to pass on his experience on how to train.
For the most part, the Aikido we see today is descended from people who were hardly taught by O'Sensei.
Maybe this is why so much of Aikido sucks (excuse me). People like Saotome Sensei and Pranin Sensei openly point out that Aikido is losing that...certain umph that made the bigshots of the Japanese martial world acknowledge O'Sensei.
Drago mi je što mogu bar ovako preko neta da vas sretnem i privilegija je bilo biti vaš učenik 6 sjajnih godina.Hvala vam na svemu!
Jan Živković
Foreigners,watch and learn from my teacher,great man and real Master Jočić Zoran.If someone of you doubt in his knowledge just find me and experince the death.
I am 52 and have a bulged disc in my back so I cant do crazy kicks or jj type takedowns.
At my age if I have to defend myself I would just as soon kill 'em. I am too old to roll around on asphalt. Street self defense only and physical fitness. What system
r they playing seek and hide? i doubt if aikido'll be effective against an attacker knowing attack temples. it seems that delivering attacks from afar rather than charging aimlessly would be able to avoid aikido's coutermesaures
Very cool. The only thing that caught my fake radar is when he keeps stepping forward when someone grabs his shoulder. very bad idea especially when the guys is heavier and stronger.
well its hard to find ppl who use it to fight practically. but I know a black belt police officer that comes to my dojo and says that they definitely teach aikido in LAPD academy, they just dont wanna give it one name cus they add strikes too.
well in this case its only usefull on regular ppl... i say aikido used by Great samurais, wich misses the katana sword to be full attack & defense fight style.
ianclivewright, you are the man. Train like it's real and your ass is on the line. watch those guys; they sorta just walk toward him like "do dee do, i'm attacking you with my presence..." Nothing can prepare you to defend yourself against multiple attackers. Period. Personally, I prefer to rely on my BJJ, but my .45 comes out when 1 turns into 2... that's what I call Tennessee mathematics.
Why thank you. These discussions always fall into a will it, won't it work senario. The answer is it depends on whom you're fighting. If the other guy knows what he's doing you've got problems. If he's some aggressive jerk who throws a haymaker from his hip, most things would work. More than one you're doomed, don't do it, run.
In a real attack those guys would grab his clothing and pull him to the floor. Once caught he'd be easy meat. You can't win against more than one determined attacker, they don't give you the luxury of fighting the way you want them to.
Which wouldn't work in real life because they'd grab him and hold on, which would stop him moving. Lets see it again when they are allowed to grab his clothing, end result, him on the floor being pounded.
Unless they're practising unreal attacks with improbable defenses of course, then that's ok.
...which would be done completely differant in real life ... there is practise and work in dojo , with friends :) - and street and real life and not so friendly guys ( so i wont think about their health so much :D )
Which is missing the point of what I said. In real life, and therefore in practice they should grab his clothes, then his avoidance wouldn't work. Nobody has to have anything broken. They would all just end up rolling around on the floor.
i would like to know what are the differences between traditional and real aikido. why real aikido is more effective? does that mean the real aikido already better than the idea of O sensei? i believe even the traditional aikido can be harmful used by high rank practitioner. i guess O sensei just want to hide the dangerous parts. No problem to use aikido to kill or hurt someone by just changing the basic idea of the normal practice.
Of course , you are right . And no one sad anything differant , its just a question of the way you will choose to go : do you want to inovate and what is that you even want from martial art :)
People always rag on Aikido when they see these demonstrations but that's because you people don't realise that they are only showing the techniques. If you do a technique for real you will injure or break a joint.
At 305 pounds if someone did a proper wrist throw on you it would probably permanently damage your hand and wrist if not twist your arm off!
Some of you say this is just an act, the two guys working together... It's not an act but and "art" they have to work together but if they don't especially the "uke" will get hurt with no doubt. I have a sensei in 2th dan and believe me if you don't act like he wants to each move should be you'll get yourself really hurt, just like my friend who had his feet broke. Now try to imagine a guy with 6th dan!
real aikido is aikido version made in serbia and is now going world wide .. it is quite a different version but more effective .. so people started using it .. look on the map .. locate slovenia .. we have already taken it and replaced old aikidio with REAL AIKIDO.
having seen the NUMEROUS comments on here by people who think Aikido is "fake" I would urge you to go to an Aikido dojo and check it out. Ask them if you can take Ukemi a few times to see what it feels like. I thought it looked fake too and that these guys were all just acting and jumping around, but if you don't "roll" with what they are doing to you--it fucking hurts.
If you want real fights, go to prison at piss off a mass murderer. You'll get one reality check you'll pray you didn't have. Or perhaps go to Iran and make fun of Allah. You'll see a real fight come to you very quickly.
If you live in a society with laws. You can never have a real fight, a real fight equates to murder or man slaughter.
All Competitions, and even MMA ones still have rules. They are still not totally real.
"jciis (3 months ago) If you want real fights, go to prison at piss off a mass murderer. You'll get one reality check you'll pray you didn't have." **Well said! In a life and death fight, the fancy shit is replaced by what works. (If you are still alive AFTERWARDS, it worked!) We were taught parts of this art for "last rites" situations but were you die/live...or get maimed for life. Sometimes it works, and sometimes you get a 'free' ride home (in a box) :(
Wing Chun? Saw it in a documentary on Martial Arts... It was the worse performing, besting zero of all the tests. E.g. Punch and Kick Impact, Speed, Balance, etc. Its supposed to be fast, but still lose to TKD.
But I gotta agree Aikidokas need to learn to attack realistically.
Keep in mind what those attacks are supposed to simulate. Deflecting punches and kicks are basic enough. Those big ugly karate chops you see so often represent someone swinging a sword at you... or a bat if you prefer. I dabble in SCA type combat for fun, and those techniques that look so ugly are VERY effective when someone's swinging pipe at you. Yes... TKD hits harder... Aikido is the way of universal harmony, designed to escape conflict without "kicking real hard."
Please tell me this is sarcasm? please? You claim loyalty to a Chinese art, yet name yourself after a Japanime character? ... with ... THAT poor of grammar/spelling? Aikido has valuable lessons, as does tkd, wing chun, and the show Ruroni Kenshin... but I agree, shotokan sux. ... eherm.
Very beautiful technique, most of the people here can't apperciate how subtle he is being. Very nice thanks for the upload, and I like the music too. :)
Hey, I just saw this vid, and your other "Girl Aikido" video, and I just can't help it to say, that is not Aikido, and especially not "real"...
I was wondering about the term "real Aikido" and checked wikipedia for it. And like I thought it has not much to do with the "real" Ueshiba Aikido. A guy from Serbia invented this and uses the term "real Aikido" for this MA. And no Aikido Organization recognized his "real Aikido" as a "real" Aikido.
And you see that in this, I think. I am practising Takemusu Aiki,or Iwama Ryu Aikido and I just don't see the "Aiki" in this.
I mean, that might be working nontheless... but I just don't like the fact that it is Aikido, while actually having nothing to do with the original Aikido, besides using some of the techniques from there.
I made the same observation. I'm curious though, I thought Iwama Ryu and Takemusu Aiki were different styles, one from Saito Sensei and one from Tomita Senseis interpretations of O'Senseis teachings, is this not so?
An art is only effective if it is trained in an effective manner. If you have never trained to defended against someone actually trying to hit you then you will have difficulties stopping someone hitting you in a real situation. Its not a question of lethality of techniques. If that is the only way that man is ever tested in training then he is a paper tiger, no disrespect meant.
Martial application is that. The art is derived from techniques that are designed for killing Heavily armoured samurai. Sure all of the lethality has been taken out of it, and allot of the real nasty stuff has been taken out. Then again- it does not take a 9th Dan MMA master to put them back in....
Its not real in that the people attacking are not actually trying to hurt the guy. The guy who attacks with the stick has a clear oppotunity to land a blow. And all the attackers attack by running forward! I've been attacked on the street and thats never happened to me. Flowery and inefficient.
...imagine the training where people who attacks gets hurt..wow..we would have a lot of peep on training...donno where you saw stick,here you didnt..and PRACTICE is use to prepare yourself for real situation;even for "cage" peep dont hurt themself/sparing partners like they would hurt the real attacker..We all choose what we like to do...
If they were actually trying to hurt him this would be impressive. Hope he neve has to use it for real if this is the only way he's tested it. And its a sad fact of life that sometimes its neccersery to hurt people who attack you, not just dodge them!
Difference is that I never claimed any martial art skill, while these guys do. This type of demo is as "real" as acting is in movies, and if it impresses you then there is nothing more to say.
I don't disagree that people couldn't make these look good without great Uke, but if they weren't good uke they'd also have they're arm broken... ever seen a shoulder dislocated b/c of good kotogeshi? I have
Sure, fall correctly to protect yourself - but how about the way the ukes are attacking? Not with any real intent or skill - more reaching and grabbing - no real strikes or takedown technique. Aikido might be great against this type of lame attack, but against a trained fighter?
Works, just like jujitsu or karate works, it is used when the opening is right for the technique. I agree these are some pretty weak attacks, but it does work... and usually you don't go up against "trained" fighters, more like bar brawlers, and drunkards.
I agree that Aikido could work on untrained noobs who have no idea what they are doing. I would also agree that Aikido has some great body movement training. Where I have a problem is when people think that Aikido is effective against other trained fighters who are ready to fight. If I am wrong, let's see it...
A) you just said noobs, stop gaming and show me some real life knowledge, B) If you're looking for some evidence send me a message and I'll send you some links
...i was wondering something..when i watched some "cage" fights,most winnings are made by arm,leg etc. locking..didnt saw so much "real fighters" winning. I'm not interested in fights,i'm girl and real aikido provides me a chance to react on a proper way. My opinion is that people have to have wide spectar of knowledge in martial arts,but my first option is real aikido because there is no boundings
Actually, the majority of fights are currently won with strikes (knockout, or ref/tap/doc stoppage), followed by submissions from either compression chokes or joint locks. You may not be interested in fights, but don't you train to be able to defend yourself if you had to? I would have thought that the best way to test your ability would be against fully-resisting opponents, not complying ukes. And there are no bounds to mixed martial arts either, just when it is used in sport fighting.
It happened when he was young, got his ass kicked in a bar, early nineties, I can't find the article right now. 3 times is probably an over exateration but my point is the whole idea of mma you keep bringing up is flawed, we're talking about something that is a singular art from, so that argument is off topic
That's what I thought... another iffy claim that can't be backed up. Back on topic, the fact remains that while not perfect, MMA sport fighting is a MUCH better way to test your martial art ability then the non-resisting, complying uke techniques of Aikido.
VERY GOD GREAT !!!!
1997stojilkovic 3 months ago
you know ithink ive heard it said that osensies sons techniqie is very spiraly like this. ilike it very fluid.
fitzgeraldnina 7 months ago
What's this song?! :) Love it!
zero0exk 1 year ago
This is much better than usual aikido nonsense. But it's still almost no good
Agtren 1 year ago
Aikido guys playing carousel.
Dont forget to run away in real self-defense situation ^^
fuckeldackel 1 year ago
@fuckeldackel MMA... tough guys having a bar fight for money.
Seriously, if you've never practiced Aikido in real life, you have no idea what your talking about so kindly shut up.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
its funny how he always makes sure to press the shoulder until the students taps out haha
JamesAnderyourstruly 1 year ago
A grand master of this discipline who was teaching green berets in USA was challanged for full contact demostration by one of the members with pervous martial arts training. Result was that guy who challanged him suffered a broken wrist and arm in two places.
reddwarf50 2 years ago
Great Master!!!!! Pozdrav :-)
bear287 2 years ago
THIS IS NOT AIKIDO!!!
danfusavig 2 years ago
this is realni aikido, there is big difference...
GDFrr 2 years ago
@danfusavig What the hell makes it "not" aikido?!?!?! This IS aikido...it's just not YOUR aikido. Learn some humility and respect. Also learn to think outside of the box.
kyushoaikiguy 1 year ago
please, stop say bullshit! This is only a great confusion..
danfusavig 1 year ago
I´d like to know who runs to an opponent as an idiot like this, with the arm streched. Aikido only works against idiots like those. Even a untrained street fighter do best.
vhmoreau 2 years ago
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harrysurferstar 2 years ago
ça ressemble a tout sauf a de l'aikido,d'ailleurs pourquoi appeler ça le "real aikido"?
zyvatarba 3 years ago
stupid frenche boy,, ca ressemble plus que de l'aikido il faul d'abord le pratiquer avant de juger ......
budala05 2 years ago
there is nobody who really tries to harm the master.. i know its just for demonstration but who does it work in real fight on the street for example.. i wouldnt have the time to thing about how to turn and move?? of course it needs a long time to learn but when somebody comes up and beat you first its over :-) i like all this stuff but question is how effective it would be in real fight.. only from proboxers i know that they can stand a real streetfight, because of their speed and power for exam
Avengadfly 3 years ago
I've trained this stuff some years ago and it actually becomes reflex pretty fast :) now I've never been in a street fight - and hope not to - but I think some of this would be pretty effective... at least it has some element of surprise...
RasFors 2 years ago
I'm a policeman,,,it works to great effect
colmtrim 2 years ago
I remember this guy from UFC or PRIDE FC. LOL , his students are the true warriors . Can you imagine the "let's try that last strange ass punch thing I counter again?" But who knows,maybe they are just "special". Anywho we all know there are no losers in the special O---
revremy 3 years ago
I'm sure it all made sense, but he really forgot to explain it all to anyone. He forgot to make sure to pass on his experience on how to train.
For the most part, the Aikido we see today is descended from people who were hardly taught by O'Sensei.
Maybe this is why so much of Aikido sucks (excuse me). People like Saotome Sensei and Pranin Sensei openly point out that Aikido is losing that...certain umph that made the bigshots of the Japanese martial world acknowledge O'Sensei.
drktmplar 3 years ago
I think we can all agree that it's not about the art but about A)the person, B)the training methods.
And the majority can agree that the current training methods of many Aikido dojos are seriously faulty.
I do not doubt O'Sensei was formidable in his younger days (and by younger, I mean pre-60, hehe).
After that, I simply don't understand the man.
He largely stops teaching. When he does happen to appear on the tatami, he lectures about cosmic harmony and other esoteric stuff.
drktmplar 3 years ago
Veliki pozdrav i naklon Majstoru Zokiju!!!!
Drago mi je što mogu bar ovako preko neta da vas sretnem i privilegija je bilo biti vaš učenik 6 sjajnih godina.Hvala vam na svemu!
Jan Živković
Foreigners,watch and learn from my teacher,great man and real Master Jočić Zoran.If someone of you doubt in his knowledge just find me and experince the death.
Janchone 3 years ago
song name?
aleejacopo 3 years ago
iggy pop/ the stooges
the passenger
p2502 3 years ago
I am 52 and have a bulged disc in my back so I cant do crazy kicks or jj type takedowns.
At my age if I have to defend myself I would just as soon kill 'em. I am too old to roll around on asphalt. Street self defense only and physical fitness. What system
should I learn?
luvhafiz 3 years ago
well try soft style art ie taiji or possibly xingyi/bagua. but definitely should learn a good qigong
imbrd 3 years ago
esta sacadicimo el tipo jaja
aikidolea2 3 years ago
eso es lo k mola del aikido ... k juegas con tu enemigo ... o enemigos ^^
Pitoso25 3 years ago
r they playing seek and hide? i doubt if aikido'll be effective against an attacker knowing attack temples. it seems that delivering attacks from afar rather than charging aimlessly would be able to avoid aikido's coutermesaures
howlingpunkin 3 years ago
Aidiko Art
Ichkeria 4 years ago
Very cool. The only thing that caught my fake radar is when he keeps stepping forward when someone grabs his shoulder. very bad idea especially when the guys is heavier and stronger.
Ferret2YourFace 4 years ago
i wish i can find real aikido vs with other fight styles
Ichkeria 4 years ago
well its hard to find ppl who use it to fight practically. but I know a black belt police officer that comes to my dojo and says that they definitely teach aikido in LAPD academy, they just dont wanna give it one name cus they add strikes too.
Ferret2YourFace 4 years ago
well in this case its only usefull on regular ppl... i say aikido used by Great samurais, wich misses the katana sword to be full attack & defense fight style.
Ichkeria 4 years ago
ianclivewright, you are the man. Train like it's real and your ass is on the line. watch those guys; they sorta just walk toward him like "do dee do, i'm attacking you with my presence..." Nothing can prepare you to defend yourself against multiple attackers. Period. Personally, I prefer to rely on my BJJ, but my .45 comes out when 1 turns into 2... that's what I call Tennessee mathematics.
bigwoolycritter 4 years ago
Why thank you. These discussions always fall into a will it, won't it work senario. The answer is it depends on whom you're fighting. If the other guy knows what he's doing you've got problems. If he's some aggressive jerk who throws a haymaker from his hip, most things would work. More than one you're doomed, don't do it, run.
ianclivewright 4 years ago
what if someone had to go to the restroom?would the techniques still work?
roywilliams61 4 years ago
In a real attack those guys would grab his clothing and pull him to the floor. Once caught he'd be easy meat. You can't win against more than one determined attacker, they don't give you the luxury of fighting the way you want them to.
ianclivewright 4 years ago
what you've seen its just practise of moving and avoiding the attackers
REALNANATA 4 years ago
Which wouldn't work in real life because they'd grab him and hold on, which would stop him moving. Lets see it again when they are allowed to grab his clothing, end result, him on the floor being pounded.
Unless they're practising unreal attacks with improbable defenses of course, then that's ok.
ianclivewright 4 years ago
...which would be done completely differant in real life ... there is practise and work in dojo , with friends :) - and street and real life and not so friendly guys ( so i wont think about their health so much :D )
REALNANATA 4 years ago
Is it just me?
Shouldn't practice in the dojo prepare you for the way you might be attacked in real life?
If not, what's the point?
ianclivewright 4 years ago
o yes , you are right ... but then - i should brake someone hand to see is it work in rl?
In rl this practise with "moving & avoiding" is very short and painful :)
REALNANATA 4 years ago
Which is missing the point of what I said. In real life, and therefore in practice they should grab his clothes, then his avoidance wouldn't work. Nobody has to have anything broken. They would all just end up rolling around on the floor.
ianclivewright 4 years ago
well point is NOT to be grabbed m8 :)
do you practise anything ?
REALNANATA 4 years ago
what if kyokushin 6th DAN fights with aikido masters
Ichkeria 4 years ago
you get out of the way!
yeswithcheese 3 years ago
wanna fight!? :) i have white Kyokushin belt & ill kick cheese outta u lol
Ichkeria 3 years ago
They need to attack with more reality.Otherwise yes it is a very effective fighting style.Fore a certain situation.
ALomovica 4 years ago
i would like to know what are the differences between traditional and real aikido. why real aikido is more effective? does that mean the real aikido already better than the idea of O sensei? i believe even the traditional aikido can be harmful used by high rank practitioner. i guess O sensei just want to hide the dangerous parts. No problem to use aikido to kill or hurt someone by just changing the basic idea of the normal practice.
thkun33 4 years ago
Of course , you are right . And no one sad anything differant , its just a question of the way you will choose to go : do you want to inovate and what is that you even want from martial art :)
REALNANATA 4 years ago
The nage almost look's clumsy, with his spinning around, but aikido aint something until u seen it irl.
suridan 4 years ago
People always rag on Aikido when they see these demonstrations but that's because you people don't realise that they are only showing the techniques. If you do a technique for real you will injure or break a joint.
At 305 pounds if someone did a proper wrist throw on you it would probably permanently damage your hand and wrist if not twist your arm off!
SubEffect 4 years ago
Some of you say this is just an act, the two guys working together... It's not an act but and "art" they have to work together but if they don't especially the "uke" will get hurt with no doubt. I have a sensei in 2th dan and believe me if you don't act like he wants to each move should be you'll get yourself really hurt, just like my friend who had his feet broke. Now try to imagine a guy with 6th dan!
Lekutmc 4 years ago
I've never understand very well this martial art and how effective could be.
But I know a girl, friend of me, using aikido she broke some bones of 2 guys coming to stole her shoes.
When one touch her, he was history.
davidbarrel 4 years ago
real aikido is aikido version made in serbia and is now going world wide .. it is quite a different version but more effective .. so people started using it .. look on the map .. locate slovenia .. we have already taken it and replaced old aikidio with REAL AIKIDO.
rastiiZ 4 years ago
What style is this?
suridan 4 years ago
having seen the NUMEROUS comments on here by people who think Aikido is "fake" I would urge you to go to an Aikido dojo and check it out. Ask them if you can take Ukemi a few times to see what it feels like. I thought it looked fake too and that these guys were all just acting and jumping around, but if you don't "roll" with what they are doing to you--it fucking hurts.
csmith719 4 years ago
In every single sequence, you can see how the attacker and defender are working together--not against eahc other. How is that "real?"
fileboy2002 4 years ago
If you want real fights, go to prison at piss off a mass murderer. You'll get one reality check you'll pray you didn't have. Or perhaps go to Iran and make fun of Allah. You'll see a real fight come to you very quickly.
If you live in a society with laws. You can never have a real fight, a real fight equates to murder or man slaughter.
All Competitions, and even MMA ones still have rules. They are still not totally real.
jciis 4 years ago 2
oh yeah and you are probably the superpwning guy who has made this all and tells now his fricking live story *lol*.
Malachayas 4 years ago
"jciis (3 months ago) If you want real fights, go to prison at piss off a mass murderer. You'll get one reality check you'll pray you didn't have." **Well said! In a life and death fight, the fancy shit is replaced by what works. (If you are still alive AFTERWARDS, it worked!) We were taught parts of this art for "last rites" situations but were you die/live...or get maimed for life. Sometimes it works, and sometimes you get a 'free' ride home (in a box) :(
PS Lance Corporal: Rock-on!!!!
weaponswillow 4 years ago
"Real Aikido"? What do you mean?
akriboo 4 years ago
Wing Chun? Saw it in a documentary on Martial Arts... It was the worse performing, besting zero of all the tests. E.g. Punch and Kick Impact, Speed, Balance, etc. Its supposed to be fast, but still lose to TKD.
But I gotta agree Aikidokas need to learn to attack realistically.
pengzr 4 years ago
Keep in mind what those attacks are supposed to simulate. Deflecting punches and kicks are basic enough. Those big ugly karate chops you see so often represent someone swinging a sword at you... or a bat if you prefer. I dabble in SCA type combat for fun, and those techniques that look so ugly are VERY effective when someone's swinging pipe at you. Yes... TKD hits harder... Aikido is the way of universal harmony, designed to escape conflict without "kicking real hard."
dasgregorian 4 years ago
The aïkido may be real.... Attacks are not
..As always in aïkido.
vince84231 4 years ago
cmon u spend so much time for one juststreight kick in the face!
gargara 4 years ago
aikido sux tkd sux shotokan sux wing chun is the best of alla these stupid tecqnicks
kenshi44 4 years ago
wing chun is beautiful martial art , i love it to but it's shame that some-one like you represent it
REALNANATA 4 years ago
Please tell me this is sarcasm? please? You claim loyalty to a Chinese art, yet name yourself after a Japanime character? ... with ... THAT poor of grammar/spelling? Aikido has valuable lessons, as does tkd, wing chun, and the show Ruroni Kenshin... but I agree, shotokan sux. ... eherm.
dasgregorian 4 years ago 2
Very beautiful technique, most of the people here can't apperciate how subtle he is being. Very nice thanks for the upload, and I like the music too. :)
MusashiVII 4 years ago
I guess when the instructor tells his students attack me now, raise your hand, and etc it is real easy.
timbosforporn 4 years ago
Hey, I just saw this vid, and your other "Girl Aikido" video, and I just can't help it to say, that is not Aikido, and especially not "real"...
I was wondering about the term "real Aikido" and checked wikipedia for it. And like I thought it has not much to do with the "real" Ueshiba Aikido. A guy from Serbia invented this and uses the term "real Aikido" for this MA. And no Aikido Organization recognized his "real Aikido" as a "real" Aikido.
Kurosakikun2k6 4 years ago
And you see that in this, I think. I am practising Takemusu Aiki,or Iwama Ryu Aikido and I just don't see the "Aiki" in this.
I mean, that might be working nontheless... but I just don't like the fact that it is Aikido, while actually having nothing to do with the original Aikido, besides using some of the techniques from there.
Kurosakikun2k6 4 years ago
I made the same observation. I'm curious though, I thought Iwama Ryu and Takemusu Aiki were different styles, one from Saito Sensei and one from Tomita Senseis interpretations of O'Senseis teachings, is this not so?
flatnerd 4 years ago
these are all differant variations by great masters
REALNANATA 4 years ago
you ever tried to hit someone 6th dan aikido?
geeeeert 4 years ago
shure...come and see..or feel :D
REALNANATA 4 years ago
the "attacker" isn't evn pretending to throw a punch. he's just running at the guy with his hands down.
miggetymike1 4 years ago
An art is only effective if it is trained in an effective manner. If you have never trained to defended against someone actually trying to hit you then you will have difficulties stopping someone hitting you in a real situation. Its not a question of lethality of techniques. If that is the only way that man is ever tested in training then he is a paper tiger, no disrespect meant.
sundaysleeperwoo 4 years ago
Akido like that is a superb and skillful art. Its just not a 'martial' one.
DannyEng1980 4 years ago
Martial application is that. The art is derived from techniques that are designed for killing Heavily armoured samurai. Sure all of the lethality has been taken out of it, and allot of the real nasty stuff has been taken out. Then again- it does not take a 9th Dan MMA master to put them back in....
Randathamane 4 years ago
like the techniques off of strikes...i think it's fair to say 90+% of attackers are not going to grab your wrist.
RAWDOG1021 4 years ago
the randori look like a baguazhang tecnic
chimbilae 4 years ago
Its not real in that the people attacking are not actually trying to hurt the guy. The guy who attacks with the stick has a clear oppotunity to land a blow. And all the attackers attack by running forward! I've been attacked on the street and thats never happened to me. Flowery and inefficient.
DannyEng1980 4 years ago
...imagine the training where people who attacks gets hurt..wow..we would have a lot of peep on training...donno where you saw stick,here you didnt..and PRACTICE is use to prepare yourself for real situation;even for "cage" peep dont hurt themself/sparing partners like they would hurt the real attacker..We all choose what we like to do...
REALNANATA 4 years ago
If they were actually trying to hurt him this would be impressive. Hope he neve has to use it for real if this is the only way he's tested it. And its a sad fact of life that sometimes its neccersery to hurt people who attack you, not just dodge them!
DannyEng1980 4 years ago
well we all know keyboard warriors like Marcus are the real masters of martial arts...
Spriggan107 4 years ago
Difference is that I never claimed any martial art skill, while these guys do. This type of demo is as "real" as acting is in movies, and if it impresses you then there is nothing more to say.
marcusorilius 4 years ago
difference is these guys have videos to promote, while all you can do in your baseless confidence is trash talk vids on youtube
Spriggan107 4 years ago
You think that this demo could have been done without the "Ukes who make all these moves possible"?
You don't think that this "Looks great - very fluid and well performed"??? Let's hear why you disagree with my comments...
marcusorilius 4 years ago
I don't disagree that people couldn't make these look good without great Uke, but if they weren't good uke they'd also have they're arm broken... ever seen a shoulder dislocated b/c of good kotogeshi? I have
nolispe 4 years ago
Sure, fall correctly to protect yourself - but how about the way the ukes are attacking? Not with any real intent or skill - more reaching and grabbing - no real strikes or takedown technique. Aikido might be great against this type of lame attack, but against a trained fighter?
marcusorilius 4 years ago
Works, just like jujitsu or karate works, it is used when the opening is right for the technique. I agree these are some pretty weak attacks, but it does work... and usually you don't go up against "trained" fighters, more like bar brawlers, and drunkards.
nolispe 4 years ago
I agree that Aikido could work on untrained noobs who have no idea what they are doing. I would also agree that Aikido has some great body movement training. Where I have a problem is when people think that Aikido is effective against other trained fighters who are ready to fight. If I am wrong, let's see it...
marcusorilius 4 years ago
A) you just said noobs, stop gaming and show me some real life knowledge, B) If you're looking for some evidence send me a message and I'll send you some links
nolispe 4 years ago
...i was wondering something..when i watched some "cage" fights,most winnings are made by arm,leg etc. locking..didnt saw so much "real fighters" winning. I'm not interested in fights,i'm girl and real aikido provides me a chance to react on a proper way. My opinion is that people have to have wide spectar of knowledge in martial arts,but my first option is real aikido because there is no boundings
REALNANATA 4 years ago
Actually, the majority of fights are currently won with strikes (knockout, or ref/tap/doc stoppage), followed by submissions from either compression chokes or joint locks. You may not be interested in fights, but don't you train to be able to defend yourself if you had to? I would have thought that the best way to test your ability would be against fully-resisting opponents, not complying ukes. And there are no bounds to mixed martial arts either, just when it is used in sport fighting.
marcusorilius 4 years ago
"you don't go up against "trained" fighters, more like bar brawlers, and drunkards" = NOOBS
Go ahead, send the links to me.
marcusorilius 4 years ago
Tell Mike Tyson that, he's gotten his face beaten in... what 3 times in bar fights?
nolispe 4 years ago
LOL - Where did you hear that?
marcusorilius 4 years ago
It happened when he was young, got his ass kicked in a bar, early nineties, I can't find the article right now. 3 times is probably an over exateration but my point is the whole idea of mma you keep bringing up is flawed, we're talking about something that is a singular art from, so that argument is off topic
nolispe 4 years ago
That's what I thought... another iffy claim that can't be backed up. Back on topic, the fact remains that while not perfect, MMA sport fighting is a MUCH better way to test your martial art ability then the non-resisting, complying uke techniques of Aikido.
marcusorilius 4 years ago
The real "masters" of Aikido are the Ukes who make all these moves possible... Looks great - very fluid and well performed - just like in the WWE
marcusorilius 5 years ago
Thanks
REALNANATA 5 years ago
What is real about it?
drktmplar 5 years ago
"Real" has another conotation..meaning...
REALNANATA 5 years ago