You also are INCORRECT to think that homosexuality sends anyone to Hell. IT DOES NOT. Our innocense or guilt is based upon God's 10 Commandments. THIS is the Law by which you and all men and women will be held accountable. If you have broken God's Laws....only then will homosexuality play a role in determining your eternity in Hell. You see...Hell will not be the same for you as it is for Hitler or Saddam Hussein or anyone else because YOUR SIN is different from everyone else.
@bornagain001 "Our innocense or guilt is based upon God's 10 Commandments. THIS is the Law by which you and all men and women will be held accountable."
Great, so we can rape, own slaves, physically assault people, practice sexism, racism, and prejudice and discrimination etc. and still go to heaven, so long as we obey the 10 commandments. Didn't realize God was such a pushover.
@BailiffQuimby ....No. All those things you mentioned will be used to determine your ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. Only your innocense or guilt is determined by the 10 Commandments. Not everyone is guilty of rape or murder or assault therefore YOUR ETERNITY will be based on YOUR SIN...not someone elses. Hitlers eternity will not be the same as the atheist who is consumed by pornography.
@bornagain001 ".No. All those things you mentioned will be used to determine your ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. Only your innocense or guilt is determined by the 10 Commandments"
Right. So if you obey the 10 commandments, god will say you're innocent and send you to heaven (eliminating the need to calculate a punishment), ignoring the many times you've raped your slaves, etc. Precisely what I said, thank you for agreeing.
"Hitlers eternity will not be the same as the atheist who is consumed by pornography."
I thank you for making a distinction between porno-junkie atheists and mass murderers. But according to you, a *christian* who is consumed by pornography or owns slaves or rapes his wife will still go to heaven if they follow the ten commandments... TBC
@BailiffQuimby ..".But according to you, a *christian* who is consumed by pornography or owns slaves or rapes his wife will still go to heaven if they follow the ten commandments... TBC"
REALLY? I don't remember saying that. Perhaps you can copy and paste that for me.
@bornagain001 ...So while I appreciate that you don't stick all sins into the same category as do so many of your ilk, you still see skepticism (which breaks commandment #1) as a bigger sin than all the major crimes that didn't make God's top ten list. And that, my friend, is immoral.
@BailiffQuimby ...not at all. Commandment #1 carries no more weight than 2 thru 10. You only need to break ONE of them to be found guilty. Only then...will YOUR SINS be brought into account to determine your eternity. I like how you PLAY GOD....and are able to call God immoral...as if your own life is not CONSUMED BY SIN.
this is so stupid.... Christians have proof of God, people like you are too ignorant to accept the truth... and if Christians wanted to soothe their brains they would do drugs... instead we are searching for perfection... not soothing.. and we are willing to die for this, so in no way does this soothe our brain.. quit being ignorant, and get the facts.
@ItstheAlexShow a proof? really? Let the rest of us know so we don't have to burn in hell for no reason. The proof I mean, not some self-perpetuated bullshit.
It helps me understand how "true believers" seem so righteous when they have no evidence whatsoever. It's a mass hallucination of our own mind. Makes sense...
@bornagain001 christ is gods son and god? the only way that can happen is if god jacks of in his hand and swallows it and gives birth to himself 9 months later. in fact thats what DID happen. you cant disprove it.
@johnnythesailorman And that's just a sad and pathetic excuse of a reply. dont worry we will disprove it one day.. though my guess is religion will be very much dead by that time. Continue on praying and attributing nothing to this world good day.
@BomB191mich it makes me sad when a fellow nonbeliever deosn't recognize satire. let me go ahead and spell it out for you, i am an atheist who gave up trying to use logic and reason to debunk religion a long time ago as it has no effect on people who believe in talking snakes. now i just try to use these idiots own logic against them in a satirical manner and see if they can see the flaw in their logic, sadly to no avail. go to my channel and watch the evils of gay marriage for an example.
This is pretty dumb because just before this video i watched a youtube video titled "Religion causes brain damage" - and that one made sense. This is just saying that religious people feel good when they are interacting with their religion, and it produces "the soothing juices" - its not the religion thats doing that, its the feeling good part! Atheists can feel good about something to and get those juices - by the way is called Serotonin and is a natural antidepressant produced in the brain
Concerning his brain argument yeah okay but Jesus said some things that would have not produced the brain jucies that make people feel good about themselves and as a matter of fact it got him murdered. This is why Christianity is not a religion because Christ is more concerned about holiness and living right rather than making us feel good all the time. Thats why there are still holiness and hell fire preachers ou there. The purpose is to bring a change in ones life.
@evzt3 Christians always have to go into wild and desperate mental gymastics of interpretation to be able to make any sense of the Bible.
I have a simple solution to solve their difficulties.
If you start from the premise that god does not exist and that, at best, Jesus was just an ordinary man. All the inconsistancies just fade away. Life becomes very simple.
@Darwinsman You've got to keep in mind the mental barriers Christians erect. Anyone who questions their beliefs is "sent from Satan". Even the response to difficult times is phrased in such a way as to avoid questioning God's existence.
i.e. "Why would God allow my family member to die of cancer?" instead of "Is the death of my family member to cancer compatible with my belief in an all powerful and all loving God?"
@evzt3 ...This world does belong to Satan. His influence can be seen everywhere from murderers to rapists to politicians to billionaires. The good news is that the Holy Spirit gives to us SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT to know what is right and what is wrong. Sin and suffering CAN NOT be seperated. We exist in a fallen world and God has appointed a day and hour for all of us to die. Are you ready for death?
But then why does God allow Satan to influence people to murder and rape? If I stood on the sidelines and watched someone get raped and/or murdered without doing anything, that would make me evil, would it not? Is God not all powerful and loving? Why would you apply a different moral standard to me and God?
@bornagain001 not really. horus is savior. krishan is savior. mithras is savior. even buddha is savior. many of these say much wiser things then jesus says, and all of them want only one thing, faith. belive in me and thou shal be saved. you jesus is so ungodly. i pick atheism instead with its godlike scientists and philosophers. you shuld read the bible. nothing makes your atheist faster then it.
@gethsoftware ..Neither Horus nor Krishna nor Mithras nor Buddha ...EVER CLAIMED to be a Savior. CHRIST DID.
Jesus did not come to "say wise things". His entire PURPOSE was to DIE FOR YOUR SIN. Please ask your godlike scientists why NONE OF THEM can ever be found in homeless shelters bringing comfort to those without. Or why your godlike scientists and philosophers can not bring comfort to someone who has lost a child or a friend or a relative. How did Freud die? Suicide?
@bornagain001 you obviously know nothing of horus/osiris then, osiris decended into hell to help those that died after him to pass through the gates of the netherworld. his son horus was his resurrection on the earth, if you actually read the egyptian book of the dead and pyramid texts, you will also see reference to horus in heaven. all egyptians that died after osiris were called osiris.
@changingmyself ...what I do know is that Horus and Osiris were at one time FALSE GODS who failed to bring anything to the lives of their followers so they died a slow and painful death. 2012 years after the crucifixion of Christ there are literally 1000's of churches and MILLIONS of followers around the world. The Bible is still the number ONE SELLER of all time and IN GOD WE TRUST is printed or stamped on every piece of currency in AMERICA.
@bornagain001 GOD is not a name, GOD is a title. That could mean ANY of the thousands of gods....but not only that, the PYRAMID is also on the Dollar Bill. When was Jesus in the Pyramids?
@DannyPhantomBeast Other than the term God, which can be applied to anything, those are completely different terms and are easy to set aside from one another.
@changingmyself ...what I do know is that Horus and Osiris were at one time FALSE GODS who failed to bring anything to the lives of their followers so they died a slow and painful death. 2012 years after the crucifixion of Christ there are literally 1000's of churches and MILLIONS of followers around the world. The Bible is still the number ONE SELLER of all time and IN GOD WE TRUST is printed or stamped on every piece of currency in AMERICA.
@TweekDash ...Judaism is older and has been around longer because the JEWS knew the ONE TRUE GOD while the rest of the world was worshipping Baal and Neptune and Osiris and the plethera of other false gods that Satan could come up with.
@bornagain001 Islamic people could tell you the same thing....Jews can tell u the same thing.....1800 other different religons that has been through our history can tell you the contradiction is that you dont understand their god.....
oo wait me and the other 1800 other religons are wrong just because u believe in an unknown....
dont worry 2000 years from now your belief wont exist anymore
@jimmydane34 ....I AGREE with you. I don't think God will allow man to continue on his/her path of pride and self centered way too much longer. Christ told us what to look for as the "birth pains" of His return and we are seeing those NOW. Even though Christ did not tell us the date of His return, at the rate we are going...it should be soon.
u can see pride and self centerness in any time in life...just because u put god mixed in with a universal quote dont mean nothing
that same man u adore hates gays and any other being that opposses his teachings
im applying im at all gay im applying your christ has inmoral teachings which is inconsistant when u define "personal god" all being...all powerful....all good....how can one be "all good" when its an inmoral way of thinking gays should go to hell
@jimmydane34 ....PLEASE...tell me WHERE in God's INFALLIBLE Word...does it say God is ALL GOOD. That comes form the lips of a man that doesn't know God.
@MyContext ....Animals do talk. Cows moo, dogs bark, cats meow, birds chirp.....the problem is you CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEM. If God grants you the ability to understand them...they don't have to speak english.
@bornagain001 "....Animals do talk. Cows moo, dogs bark, cats meow, birds chirp.....the problem is you CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEM."
No, the problem is that the ideas animals are capable of communicating through these sounds do not constitute anything resembling a language and are limited to "hungry," "food," "danger," etc. We scientifically know the limits to the ideas that animals can communicate with other animals who "know their language" and your book is still nonsense.
@johnnythesailorman let me rephrase that how can you recognize someone as a christian if they don't recognize Christ as the messiah as per your previous post when you said ".there are some Jews who recognize Christ as the Messiah and some Christians who do not."and it seems it's your understanding that is all out of whack, not mine. you can't even come up with a consistent definition as to what a christian even is much less anything else.
So its all in your head, got it.
23Tev 1 day ago
Love it when he said a "certified moron" hahahaha @ 4:20
franscitroen 4 days ago
You also are INCORRECT to think that homosexuality sends anyone to Hell. IT DOES NOT. Our innocense or guilt is based upon God's 10 Commandments. THIS is the Law by which you and all men and women will be held accountable. If you have broken God's Laws....only then will homosexuality play a role in determining your eternity in Hell. You see...Hell will not be the same for you as it is for Hitler or Saddam Hussein or anyone else because YOUR SIN is different from everyone else.
bornagain001 2 weeks ago
@bornagain001 "Our innocense or guilt is based upon God's 10 Commandments. THIS is the Law by which you and all men and women will be held accountable."
Great, so we can rape, own slaves, physically assault people, practice sexism, racism, and prejudice and discrimination etc. and still go to heaven, so long as we obey the 10 commandments. Didn't realize God was such a pushover.
BailiffQuimby 1 week ago
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@BailiffQuimby ....No. All those things you mentioned will be used to determine your ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. Only your innocense or guilt is determined by the 10 Commandments. Not everyone is guilty of rape or murder or assault therefore YOUR ETERNITY will be based on YOUR SIN...not someone elses. Hitlers eternity will not be the same as the atheist who is consumed by pornography.
bornagain001 1 week ago
@bornagain001 ".No. All those things you mentioned will be used to determine your ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. Only your innocense or guilt is determined by the 10 Commandments"
Right. So if you obey the 10 commandments, god will say you're innocent and send you to heaven (eliminating the need to calculate a punishment), ignoring the many times you've raped your slaves, etc. Precisely what I said, thank you for agreeing.
BailiffQuimby 1 week ago
@bornagain001
"Hitlers eternity will not be the same as the atheist who is consumed by pornography."
I thank you for making a distinction between porno-junkie atheists and mass murderers. But according to you, a *christian* who is consumed by pornography or owns slaves or rapes his wife will still go to heaven if they follow the ten commandments... TBC
BailiffQuimby 1 week ago
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@BailiffQuimby ..".But according to you, a *christian* who is consumed by pornography or owns slaves or rapes his wife will still go to heaven if they follow the ten commandments... TBC"
REALLY? I don't remember saying that. Perhaps you can copy and paste that for me.
bornagain001 1 week ago
@bornagain001 ...So while I appreciate that you don't stick all sins into the same category as do so many of your ilk, you still see skepticism (which breaks commandment #1) as a bigger sin than all the major crimes that didn't make God's top ten list. And that, my friend, is immoral.
BailiffQuimby 1 week ago
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@BailiffQuimby ...not at all. Commandment #1 carries no more weight than 2 thru 10. You only need to break ONE of them to be found guilty. Only then...will YOUR SINS be brought into account to determine your eternity. I like how you PLAY GOD....and are able to call God immoral...as if your own life is not CONSUMED BY SIN.
bornagain001 1 week ago
NOT APPLYING I AM GAY i screwed up the statement from my previous comment.....
jimmydane34 2 weeks ago
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jimmydane34 2 weeks ago
its like the lottery people...theres thousands of different religons that been on this earth...
just pick one cant win if u dont play...lmao
jimmydane34 3 weeks ago
this is so stupid.... Christians have proof of God, people like you are too ignorant to accept the truth... and if Christians wanted to soothe their brains they would do drugs... instead we are searching for perfection... not soothing.. and we are willing to die for this, so in no way does this soothe our brain.. quit being ignorant, and get the facts.
ItstheAlexShow 1 month ago
@ItstheAlexShow a proof? really? Let the rest of us know so we don't have to burn in hell for no reason. The proof I mean, not some self-perpetuated bullshit.
efa0tz 4 weeks ago
I get my "brain soothed" by learning stuff like this.
Heathensrule 1 month ago 5
It helps me understand how "true believers" seem so righteous when they have no evidence whatsoever. It's a mass hallucination of our own mind. Makes sense...
"God created Man so that Man could create God."
skyelander00 1 month ago 3
In a sense ... Yes... Christ was God's Son.... But deeper than that.....Christ is a part of the Trinity....which makes Him God.
bornagain001 2 months ago
@bornagain001 christ is gods son and god? the only way that can happen is if god jacks of in his hand and swallows it and gives birth to himself 9 months later. in fact thats what DID happen. you cant disprove it.
johnnythesailorman 2 months ago
@johnnythesailorman ....."Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Galatians 6:7
bornagain001 2 months ago
@bornagain001 The idea of god as presented by our religions is a mockery. It really doesn't need any help.
MyContext 1 week ago
@johnnythesailorman Tell me what PROOF you have that isn't in a fairy tail book written by 40 plus people and edited by thousands of others.
BomB191mich 1 month ago
@BomB191mich you can't disprove it. I win.
johnnythesailorman 1 month ago
@johnnythesailorman And that's just a sad and pathetic excuse of a reply. dont worry we will disprove it one day.. though my guess is religion will be very much dead by that time. Continue on praying and attributing nothing to this world good day.
BomB191mich 1 month ago
@BomB191mich it makes me sad when a fellow nonbeliever deosn't recognize satire. let me go ahead and spell it out for you, i am an atheist who gave up trying to use logic and reason to debunk religion a long time ago as it has no effect on people who believe in talking snakes. now i just try to use these idiots own logic against them in a satirical manner and see if they can see the flaw in their logic, sadly to no avail. go to my channel and watch the evils of gay marriage for an example.
johnnythesailorman 1 month ago
This is pretty dumb because just before this video i watched a youtube video titled "Religion causes brain damage" - and that one made sense. This is just saying that religious people feel good when they are interacting with their religion, and it produces "the soothing juices" - its not the religion thats doing that, its the feeling good part! Atheists can feel good about something to and get those juices - by the way is called Serotonin and is a natural antidepressant produced in the brain
SlapstickCoyote 2 months ago
/knowing right from wrong has nothing to do with religion or should i say "relegion".
MajesticMist 2 months ago
& my ass creates atheism
love187punk 5 months ago
Concerning his brain argument yeah okay but Jesus said some things that would have not produced the brain jucies that make people feel good about themselves and as a matter of fact it got him murdered. This is why Christianity is not a religion because Christ is more concerned about holiness and living right rather than making us feel good all the time. Thats why there are still holiness and hell fire preachers ou there. The purpose is to bring a change in ones life.
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@superjam18
Assuming Jesus ever existed.
Personally I refuse to apologize for being a human being.
evzt3 5 months ago
@evzt3 Christians always have to go into wild and desperate mental gymastics of interpretation to be able to make any sense of the Bible.
I have a simple solution to solve their difficulties.
If you start from the premise that god does not exist and that, at best, Jesus was just an ordinary man. All the inconsistancies just fade away. Life becomes very simple.
Final, but simple.
Darwinsman 5 months ago
@Darwinsman You've got to keep in mind the mental barriers Christians erect. Anyone who questions their beliefs is "sent from Satan". Even the response to difficult times is phrased in such a way as to avoid questioning God's existence.
i.e. "Why would God allow my family member to die of cancer?" instead of "Is the death of my family member to cancer compatible with my belief in an all powerful and all loving God?"
evzt3 5 months ago
@evzt3 ...This world does belong to Satan. His influence can be seen everywhere from murderers to rapists to politicians to billionaires. The good news is that the Holy Spirit gives to us SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT to know what is right and what is wrong. Sin and suffering CAN NOT be seperated. We exist in a fallen world and God has appointed a day and hour for all of us to die. Are you ready for death?
bornagain001 5 months ago
@bornagain001
But then why does God allow Satan to influence people to murder and rape? If I stood on the sidelines and watched someone get raped and/or murdered without doing anything, that would make me evil, would it not? Is God not all powerful and loving? Why would you apply a different moral standard to me and God?
evzt3 5 months ago
The world offers you 4200 RELIGIONS....but only ONE SAVIOR.
bornagain001 7 months ago
@bornagain001 Mohammed?
Mjhavok 6 months ago
@bornagain001 not really. horus is savior. krishan is savior. mithras is savior. even buddha is savior. many of these say much wiser things then jesus says, and all of them want only one thing, faith. belive in me and thou shal be saved. you jesus is so ungodly. i pick atheism instead with its godlike scientists and philosophers. you shuld read the bible. nothing makes your atheist faster then it.
gethsoftware 6 months ago
@gethsoftware ..Neither Horus nor Krishna nor Mithras nor Buddha ...EVER CLAIMED to be a Savior. CHRIST DID.
Jesus did not come to "say wise things". His entire PURPOSE was to DIE FOR YOUR SIN. Please ask your godlike scientists why NONE OF THEM can ever be found in homeless shelters bringing comfort to those without. Or why your godlike scientists and philosophers can not bring comfort to someone who has lost a child or a friend or a relative. How did Freud die? Suicide?
bornagain001 6 months ago
@bornagain001 AAAA to the MEN
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@bornagain001 AAAA to the MEN
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@bornagain001 Quote: "Neither Horus nor Krishna nor Mithras nor Buddha ...EVER CLAIMED to be a Savior. CHRIST DID."
No. People who had never ever met Jesus claimed that, people who might have met him, claimed that he said he was a saviour.
Quote: "Please ask your godlike scientists why NONE OF THEM can ever be found in homeless shelters bringing comfort to those without."
Actually, the vast majority of the international charities and aid agencies are deliberately secular.
Darwinsman 5 months ago
@bornagain001 you obviously know nothing of horus/osiris then, osiris decended into hell to help those that died after him to pass through the gates of the netherworld. his son horus was his resurrection on the earth, if you actually read the egyptian book of the dead and pyramid texts, you will also see reference to horus in heaven. all egyptians that died after osiris were called osiris.
changingmyself 4 months ago
@changingmyself ...what I do know is that Horus and Osiris were at one time FALSE GODS who failed to bring anything to the lives of their followers so they died a slow and painful death. 2012 years after the crucifixion of Christ there are literally 1000's of churches and MILLIONS of followers around the world. The Bible is still the number ONE SELLER of all time and IN GOD WE TRUST is printed or stamped on every piece of currency in AMERICA.
bornagain001 4 months ago
@bornagain001 GOD is not a name, GOD is a title. That could mean ANY of the thousands of gods....but not only that, the PYRAMID is also on the Dollar Bill. When was Jesus in the Pyramids?
changingmyself 4 months ago
@changingmyself ...JESUS CHRIST IS GOD. It is both a title and a name.
bornagain001 4 months ago
@bornagain001 No, it is not a name.
Again, why the eye and the pyramid on the dollar bill?
changingmyself 4 months ago
@bornagain001 Jesus was God's son, dummy.
TweekDash 2 months ago
@TweekDash Draw a distinction between the words: "The Father" "The Son" and "God."
DannyPhantomBeast 2 months ago
@DannyPhantomBeast Other than the term God, which can be applied to anything, those are completely different terms and are easy to set aside from one another.
My Father cannot ever also be my Son.
Hence, Jehovah = God, The Father; Jesus = Son.
TweekDash 2 months ago
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@changingmyself ...what I do know is that Horus and Osiris were at one time FALSE GODS who failed to bring anything to the lives of their followers so they died a slow and painful death. 2012 years after the crucifixion of Christ there are literally 1000's of churches and MILLIONS of followers around the world. The Bible is still the number ONE SELLER of all time and IN GOD WE TRUST is printed or stamped on every piece of currency in AMERICA.
bornagain001 4 months ago
@bornagain001 Just because it's still around "2012" years later doesn't make it credible. Judaism is older than Christianity remember.
also, opinions you hold dear can be VERY hard to let go of even when faced with evidence against that opinion.
and it's 1979 years after the crucifixion.
TweekDash 2 months ago
@TweekDash ...Judaism is older and has been around longer because the JEWS knew the ONE TRUE GOD while the rest of the world was worshipping Baal and Neptune and Osiris and the plethera of other false gods that Satan could come up with.
bornagain001 2 months ago
@bornagain001 So Jews go to heaven?
TweekDash 2 months ago
@TweekDash ...of course....as do "some" Christians. You see...there are some Jews who recognize Christ as the Messiah and some Christians who do not.
bornagain001 2 months ago
@bornagain001 there you go contradicting yourself again. how can you call yourself a christian if you don't believe that christ is the messiah.
johnnythesailorman 2 months ago
@johnnythesailorman ...I DO recognize Christ as the Messiah. What appears to be a contradiction is simply your not understanding.
bornagain001 2 months ago
@bornagain001 Islamic people could tell you the same thing....Jews can tell u the same thing.....1800 other different religons that has been through our history can tell you the contradiction is that you dont understand their god.....
oo wait me and the other 1800 other religons are wrong just because u believe in an unknown....
dont worry 2000 years from now your belief wont exist anymore
jimmydane34 3 weeks ago
@jimmydane34 ....I AGREE with you. I don't think God will allow man to continue on his/her path of pride and self centered way too much longer. Christ told us what to look for as the "birth pains" of His return and we are seeing those NOW. Even though Christ did not tell us the date of His return, at the rate we are going...it should be soon.
bornagain001 2 weeks ago
@bornagain001
u can see pride and self centerness in any time in life...just because u put god mixed in with a universal quote dont mean nothing
that same man u adore hates gays and any other being that opposses his teachings
im applying im at all gay im applying your christ has inmoral teachings which is inconsistant when u define "personal god" all being...all powerful....all good....how can one be "all good" when its an inmoral way of thinking gays should go to hell
jimmydane34 2 weeks ago
@jimmydane34 ....PLEASE...tell me WHERE in God's INFALLIBLE Word...does it say God is ALL GOOD. That comes form the lips of a man that doesn't know God.
bornagain001 2 weeks ago
@bornagain001 You speak of a book which claims talking animals and you claim it infallible. Have you sought psychiatric help?
MyContext 1 week ago
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@MyContext ....Animals do talk. Cows moo, dogs bark, cats meow, birds chirp.....the problem is you CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEM. If God grants you the ability to understand them...they don't have to speak english.
bornagain001 1 week ago
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@bornagain001 "....Animals do talk. Cows moo, dogs bark, cats meow, birds chirp.....the problem is you CAN'T UNDERSTAND THEM."
No, the problem is that the ideas animals are capable of communicating through these sounds do not constitute anything resembling a language and are limited to "hungry," "food," "danger," etc. We scientifically know the limits to the ideas that animals can communicate with other animals who "know their language" and your book is still nonsense.
BailiffQuimby 1 week ago
@bornagain001 Look up Jesus and the Sun God, your faith will probably deteriorate like mine did.
savcmsiscool 8 hours ago
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@savcmsiscool ....yours deterioated because you have UNREPENTANT SIN in your life. Until you surrender that SIN to Christ...you can NEVER have faith.
bornagain001 8 hours ago
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@johnnythesailorman let me rephrase that how can you recognize someone as a christian if they don't recognize Christ as the messiah as per your previous post when you said ".there are some Jews who recognize Christ as the Messiah and some Christians who do not."and it seems it's your understanding that is all out of whack, not mine. you can't even come up with a consistent definition as to what a christian even is much less anything else.
johnnythesailorman 2 months ago