40-year-old women won't want you when you're their age.

[beloon1970]

If you have you can afford much better than a 40 year old woman .if you have looks and money the field of women available is wide open. My goal is to make money then get a hot girl. If you have to settle for a fat ugly woman, wouldn't you rather be alone?

[MrSchultzstaffel]

Take a good, long look at American women who are over 40. They all have at least three kids, all by different men...they all have a long laundry-list of absolutely awful men in their past...the've all party'ed their butt's off with every Tom, Dick and "homie" in town by that time. Every man in the land has already had a piece of that...she has more disgusting baggage then an entire airport and she sees you as a fast paycheck...and you wine about not being able to date that shit? lol Please...

[ButheJackcameBack]

@MrSchultzstaffel,

LOL

[zeedub65]

If you were a woman, would you want to date yourself?

[ButheJackcameBack]

@zeedub65,

That's a bad question. Men and women have very different criteria when it comes to choosing partners.

[Mikelan082]

Steve you are correct.Look at Newt Gingrich.He is a baby boomer he married a woman close to my age.I am 44 years old.He did that back in the late 1990's.That is his current wife he is with now.

[beloon1971]

@steviesbackbitch going overseas sounds like a good idea. listen to the Tom Leykis show on youtube called "TOM leykis american vs. foreign women" and you will know why.

[beloon1970]

STEVE is right here .There are too man guys listening to Tom Leykis which says you will date these 40 year olds daughters not likely unless you have money.

[steviesbackbitch]

The reason that middle aged women reject men their age is probably because the men their age who are willing to date them are the ones who can't do any better.

[DeadSleepers]

What's funny is that the same women who reject now bitch about who men are choosing.

[beloon1970]

You can't argue with that

[beloon1970]

mrlumberjack2. That might be true in some cases but un most cases young women go for good looking young guys or guys with "money,power and fame" you can't with that.

[steviesbackbitch]

@beloon1970,

The most desirable older men can get much younger women. Old men who are considered less desirable by women can simply go overseas where poor girls will be happy for relatively wealthy foreign men.

[beloon1970]

You may be able to date the 20 something year old girl if you have lots of money,like Tom Leykis. But if you don't have the money or are not perceived is having money you are going to end up alone.

[mrlumberjaack2]

@beloon1970,

Older fun guys can still get young women for free.  Also guys can go overseas and get hot chicks with less money than they would need at home.

[tweekietweekie]

@mrlumberjaack2 negative. if you are an older guy. you have to have money to date a younger woman.

[utoia2004]

This doesnt reflect what i see everywhere, i see that people do eventually settle. The majority of people i know are in relationships and the guys are not that good looking!

[utoia2004]

80%might chase 20% men when their younger, but as they get older 25+ they start looking for other things like better personality/money etc and they settle on looks to some extent.

[jment34]

For Americans the best thing is to look up Ross Jeffries here on YT and learn everything he teaches.

[DIJV79]

First of all Steve having to date 40 yr old women is an act of desperation. Sorry bud you dropped the ball with this video.

[cthulhu854]

My experience is that I date people closer to my own age than young hotties. The conversation isn't the same. I am 45 and I have had trouble dating for years. It gets harder when you get older to meet quality people.

[steviesbackbitch]

I'll break it down. Women want top men. When they're young & hot they can all share top man penis with the other chicks. But when they get older they're competing with younger, hotter women. 40 yr old successful, charming, rich, good looking single men can get late teens/early 20s young hotties. Only 40 yr old guys who can't do any better will deal with the mid-aged women. Basically mid-aged women can get men but usually not the ones they really want.

[NYWAORCANZ]

who care.Most of us oler guys want younger less jaded women

But hey what is good for the goose is good for the gander

No reason why older women should not be able to date younger men.We men been marrying younger women for centuries

[steviesbackbitch]

I'm pretty sure that 40 year old women do want wealthy, successful 40 year old men.

[embracingreality]

OBESITY has skewed the entire dating pool of women!

Think about it, most women in the US are literally obese, generally men are not pursuing these women. The remainder of women who are actually reasonably attractive have an artificially inflated social value among men! Yes many men are overweight but their social value often isn't significantly hindered if they have things like height, money, social skills ect. Women depend primarily on their physical appearance and so few have that to offer.

[quemacha]

Hypergamy? According to the CDC, 41% of U.S. births are to unmarried women. Look at the sexual habits of women in poor neighborhoods.

[frankconjr]

Women have alot at their disposal. (all the informercials on facelift procedures, products etc) as for us men in our 40's that are single . we're screwed cause we have to deal with what God gave us and roll with it. Cougars dating guys in their 20's and their daughters dating even younger. A no win situation.

[CannedHammered]

66% of marriages end in divorce initiated by the woman. Why is this you ask? Because women only care about social confidence, social status and money. Once they realize they just married another jerky guy that was popular enough with money, they get sick of the real person he is because they have to live with him. When women start a relationship, they only care about WHAT HE IS THE OUTSIDE not WHO HE IS INSIDE. That's why most women get into relationships they end up ending.

[rjhome1]

I heard that places like Ukrain, the ratio of women to men were like 3-to-1. Also there's lots of places in Latin America with similar ratios. The point i'm trying to make is why the hell some of you guys are sitting in front of a computer complaing about these US bitches but don't even have a passport. Some of you will spend 1000's on bullshit toys and hobbies, but won't spend a penny on a plane ticket. Read Wu's page. Even if you think he's full of shit, he is 100% correct about overseas.

[MrTombstonemike]

As long as men maintain no standards in who they will sleep with than woman will have all the sexual power in relationships. I have seen some videos of women bragging about their male conquests and invariably these women are crass, stupid and ugly. No wonder many men are depressed when they realize that even the trashy, frumpy ugly chicks are being wined and dined by men trying to get in their pants. No wonder that ugly chicks think they are God's gift to men. Some men will do any woman.

[walkaboutwithme]

@MrTombstonemike I agree with you about standards. Nothing says more about a man or woman than who you will date or bed. -In further responce to you I can say that I have just "naturally" practiced "Zeta Game" (see Avoice for Men here). I reguarly take breaks from women and practice Zen and pour myself into my passions (fitness, history, psychology, ecomomics/investing) I am not materialistic and never flash cash (I insist on 50/50 unless I am dating a student). I NEVER PU IN A BAR (SKANKVILLE)

[jaytolbert9]

if your in shape and handsome, age is not a factor - women dont care how old you are if they find u attractive

[Moldovawineimporter]

@jaytolbert9 You sure can't be taking about American women because all they want is money a big dick or black dick that can supply them with drugs too.

Men over 45 who are just hard working men don't stand a chance in America to get a good women .

Even fat ugly American women are gold digger snods holding out for Mr.money bags .

[jaytolbert9]

@Moldovawineimporter well yeah, if you're talking about having a serious relationship, you're right....i was talking about just getting laid. I dont know how many times i've seen an attractive woman cheat on thier man that's well paid, and loving for a guy who they think is just sexy. it's not fair, but that's just how it is. No matter how much money u got, they'll still screw who they want if they like him enough....even if he's broke

[selfreliantboy]

I think its true that 40 yo females are just livin it up . They are alot more comfortable with themselfs these days .They have a whole host of strong female counselors and role models that teach them how to become strong and independent picky and choosey .Self rightious comes to mind . They realy don't get attached to a man they are with and handle break ups very well .They always have lots of support from other woman . How do I know this ? You figure it out .lol

[MrTombstonemike]

The problem as you say is that guys are desperate and women know we are horny. Sadly most guys will do anything that wears a skirt and until we suck up and demand the same high standards from women that they do from us than things will never change. I mean if I am not physically attracted to a woman she will never get anywhere with me even if I have been celibate for years. I guess I am wired differently than most men because I see them trying to get in the pants of some damned ugly women.

[CannedHammered]

Steve, you educated me again. I can't believe I never even thought about this b4. I know that women can get any single guy they want, but I didn't even think about the 40+ year old women. Every single one of my friends who are single would date a 40 year old woman and these guys are 24 and 25 years old. Men are just so much more desperate and women have this incredible power between their legs that never fails.

[steviesbackbitch]

@CannedHammered,

If a butt-ugly man put on a wig & lipstick, horny 20-something guys with perma-rections & painful blueballs would fuck him. If you put lipstick on a pig guys would hit that too. If you put makeup on a vacuum cleaner... you get the picture. Women can always get straight sex whenever they want. What is harder is getting relationships with high status men.

[steviesbackbitch]

This society, the media, etc. push over-40 vagina harder than crack and pharmaceuticals. I've never heard of over-40 penis being promoted so zealously.

[steviesbackbitch]

I disagree with this video. Older women do beg men to love them. Just like young women, older women aren't interested in every guy. But they end up having to compete with younger, hotter women for the 'top men'. That is probably why there is so much pro-older-woman-sex propaganda in this society. I've never heard of anyone promoting young women-older men sex the way they promote cougars. Or claiming that men reach their sexual peak at 45.

[unfortunatebeam]

What????

this has to be the worst video on youtube. how the hell does it now have 2944 thumbs down??? Seriously how are there 13 imbeciles that liked this, it's nothing by one title card with some text in a vomitty green color. geez, it should be reported it's so bad lol

[BenZeneProject]

I just turned 40 this year. 42 year old women turn me down like you say, but younger women in their 20's & 30's are begging me for dates. It's just a natural cycle. There is no mystery here and no magic formula to turn the tables. Just roll with it and have fun. Being serious is a turn off for many women.

[SteveHoca]

@BenZeneProject

I am not going to change my opinion on this. Just check out the online personals. Even 40-something women with illegitimate kids or ones that are divorced with kids are setting all these impossible standards that most gainfully-employed men cannot compete with. Civilization as we know it -- especially in America -- is on its way downward. When men worship women just because they they can use sex as a weapon, then you know it's all over. Most hetero men today are pathetic.

[BenZeneProject]

@SteveHoca Online personals are a joke. Don't waste your money. Google search David DeAngelo's double your dating and see for yourself.

You're right about men who worship women- it's pathetic. Natural selection does not permit do-overs and hot women do not date wussies.

[ebonics4everyone]

@SteveHoca Fags are just as bad as straight men. They all worship these hot idiotic gay men, who are worthless intellectually. They're all shit eaters.

[BobbytheCanadiankid]

@BenZeneProject Were you born in 1971 ? I was born in 1970 !

[beloon1971]

@BenZeneProject Unless you have money you are simply lying sir.

[BenZeneProject]

@beloon1971 hahahahahahahaaa! see also: David DeAngelo. You need to learn to stand your ground and man up. I recommend destroying your couch with a sledgehammer.

[BetaDeltaCebu]

this video is garbage...you are talking from your ass...YOU DON'T GET IT STUPID!MrJayTruth wants men to realize that, if they focus on their careers, save money and keep healthy, they won't be dating washed-up over the hill broads by the time they reach 30's and 40's. Instead, they will be dating 20-yr old chicks. Now for those 20 year old losers who date 40 year old cougars instead of getting their shit together in the first place, that's their problem!

STOP SPREADING STUPIDITY.

[certifiedgangster05]

@BetaDeltaCebu tell that to george sodini

he had his own house his car of the year and more than 250k worth of networth and had a very well payed stable job and still no women

[OniNoFro]

I see the "karma" manifesting as an eventual and en masse reaction by (local) men growing up by not allowing deluded princess to impress their fantasy world on men. I see men realizing what's important to them and rejecting this girls (not women... girls) not as a slap in the face to women as some form of vengeance but because us men will realize they are beneath us.

We will stop catering to them. We'll stop facilitating and paying for them and we'll focus on those who interest us.

90yrs...

[klined]

Steve, it's not a fantasy brother. You just have to man up and read more. Look at female targeted self help. The trend is exactly what JayTruth is saying, but from the other side of the story. The women are realizing their days are numbered. Take a recent book like "marry him" by lori gottleib.

[countmockula12]

I dunno, Steve. I think you need to listen to Tom Leykis more.

watch?v=KKcSkBF6M88

watch?v=jtRFstoX-cs

watch?v=jyqH0lC9Oz4

LVJ112's channel is a treasure trove, as are the videos in my favorites section.

[Leeroyguitar27]

@SteveHoca

Women obviously don't want someone inferior to them, but having a closed mind just says you're inferior in her eyes. Women don't CHOOSE who they are attracted to. They get plastic surgery b/c what males value is things show high fertility and reproductive value. Totally natural.

It's cheesy but what you need to do is: Be your best self. just b/c your in your 40's doesnt mean you can't be charming, well groomed, playful, and exhibit things that a REAL man would have.

[a7b7c78]

Oh, geez. More low self-esteem nonsense. Why do you care what any women thinks? And, what guys are having fantasies like this? Maybe you, but I don't know anyone else who is.

[DwayneHollowayTV]

It's great having you back Steve. I cannot wait for your Pussy Renaissance Redux video guy. It's going to be awsome. Welcome back guy.

[Notfinishedquiteyet]

steve "the hitman" hoca. you knocked this one out of the park man

[DwayneHollowayTV]

@Notfinishedquiteyet

I cannot wait for his Pussy Renaissance Redux video to come out. Here it comes guy and I believe it's going to come to an end definately in our lifetime. I'm so excited. It would come to an end a whole lot quicker if pussy whipped men would stop giving females that much more power to make things equal in the Dating Scene. It's sad. But I believe the Pussy Renaissance will be coming to an end in the near future.

[Notfinishedquiteyet]

The pussy renaissance is dependent on 2 things 1) men being asleep 2) men having the means to support vaginal stink. there will be a turn around in our life times with the crumbling economy men will have no choice but to wake up or pay dearly!! when that time comes i will just sit back as a calm as a cucumber and listen to megadeth.

[DwayneHollowayTV]

@Notfinishedquiteyet

LMAO sweet analysis guy. But that's true right there. Because when the economy does belly up. Females will not have all the pick, choice, power, or say-so for that matter. Megadeth and Metallica would be great to listen to and I love your response philosophy. Because it's straight on. Because why should the nice guys who've been shitted and dumped on in the Dating Scene there entire lives give a shit for females at that time? We certainly will not. Real Talk! Great comment

[Notfinishedquiteyet]

@DwayneHollowayTV that's precisely why. you have no obligation to anyone who buried you your whole life and take out a giant portion of it-that should've been enjoyed. it's not like in that circumstance they are reaching out to you because they like you it would be to just use you. you'd be left hung to dry when you'd no longer be need. in a shit hits the fan scenario this is exactly what will happen and in ways i can't feel sorry-this was partly brought upon.

[DwayneHollowayTV]

@Notfinishedquiteyet

Agreed! what goes around comes around as they say...

[ejdf870]

@DwayneHollowayTV I don't believe in that metaphysical nonsense. There's too much randomness in the world for that.

[A0n79fRtW]

In my case I will be 36 soon and I am to the point now where I feel that I will be a lifelong bachelor. The biggest advantage to that is by the time I reach 55 I will be very financially set and can pursue travel/hobbies to my hearts desire. The only downside is that all the money/financial security in the world cannot substitute the possible loneliness that would still be possible.  Life is funny that way.

[Meex1989]

Guys, just use your hand, it's not worth it.

[BeastNation2009]

@Meex1989

Funny thing. I think that's exactly what kick started this whole load of current bullshit that's going on in the dating game. Remember that song Pink made called "U And Ur Hand." I started to hate Pink after that. I think she was talking about pickup artists, but dammit, I knew that it was gonna catch wind and take the world by storm. Aaaand BOOM! It's been a case of "U And Ur Hand" for a lot of men for a long time but this is ABSURD.

[GiantPotato]

MrJayTruth is right, but only if you're wealthy or in other words if you yourself are in that "top 20%" described.

[CatpurrRobertaBobbi]

I get alot of what your saying really I do. Yet you missed something. Women in their 40's dont want guys their own age because many have BAGGAGE. An angry ex or two. Rugrats. Emotional damage from a bad marriage. Who wants that??!!! Not me thank you. Keep em young and fun I say. LOL Seriously young guys are too emotionally unstable beyond a one nightstand. Like your videos by the way.

[BobbytheCanadiankid]

I am going to be 40 in Oct 2010 !

[focusgroupllc]

I don't know what you're talking about, my last few girlfriends were in their 40s, f**ked like wildcats, made me dinner, and were totally cool.

[Zac6230]

steve, no offense you dont know what you're talking about , the best WILL be dating younger women, and I dont know where you think 40 year old women surgery or not look good, christ this video is dumb

[SteveHoca]

@Zac6230

The video is not dumb. I see more and more 40+ year old women today slutting it up and living the high life. They have no shame about it either. If a women is mildly attractive, 40+, and is horny, she can easily date and have sex with men half her age. So, then my question comes along: why would women in this situation want a 40+ year old guy? Men can fantasize all they want, women own the show in an enforced feminized society.

[Zac6230]

@SteveHoca sorry steve but ugly 40's something's who cares about them older men can and will get younger gals, you have everything backwards I see older men scooping up 20's somethigns all the time, I ahve no idea where your head is, but its not in reality

[ART1975CZ]

@SteveHoca Hello SteveHoca. I am ART1975CZ AKA ( Mr. Chris Paul ). I am 6 Foot 5 Inshes Tall, Size 13 Shoe, Football Players Build. I have a Culinary Arts Degree & Getting a Medical Nursing Degree. I am 35. I KILLED myself to get to this Level. I Run a LOT. I wear really nice clothes. Very Formal, Very Dark. I am Half Russian * Dom. Republic. I Act like I DON'T CARE ! You Cannot BELIEVE the Woman that come up to me ! I IGNORE THEM ! Become a HARD KNOCK. TRUST ME ON THIS ! Write Back. Thanks

[ART1975CZ]

@ART1975CZ I Did all this FOR ME ! not some Female !

[FoodCubes]

@SteveHoca What? No way. A woman in her forties isn't worth much of anything. A 40 year old guy who's healthy, attractive and financially stable can get a girl in her 20's or 30's.

[udolipixie]

@FoodCubes

Talk about hypocrisy okay for a 40 year old guy to get a 20 year old chick but a 40 year old chick getting a 20 year old guy laughable? Love your view that women are replaceable holes with expiration dates. If you view a woman's worth on her age why can't women do that to men?

[FoodCubes]

@udolipixie It's not hypocrisy, it's just how it is. The vast majority of men are simply not attracted to aging women.

[ebonics4everyone]

@FoodCubes Not true. I'm 39 and this 47 year old woman at work gives me wood. She's really cute, but she won't even consider fucking me. I think maybe she's a lesbian. I'm that hot. No homo.

[FoodCubes]

@ebonics4everyone That's good. But I remember hearing that women who were hot when they were young still think they're hot when they get older. In other words, she might think that she's way hotter than she really is. I'm all for hot older women, I just wish more women took care of themselves so they would actually look decent in old age.

[walkaboutwithme]

@SteveHoca Who the hell wants to have sex with a 40 year old woman except some desperate horned out young beta male. Jesus Steve get in shape -get some game and stash some cash. I am 50 in great shape with fairly good looks and 6'3". I have no problem finding women from 18-35 to date or just score with. I have had lots of 40-55 year old women hitting on me but have no interest -maybe when I'm 65. Yes women will try to find the most fit, good looking men with some personality and game.

[MrTombstonemike]

@walkaboutwithme Really you are 50 and you date and sleep with women who are under 30? I find that hard to believe even if you looked like George Clooney. And why do you think an attractive woman in her 20s would be interested in you? Do they have "daddy issues"? I heard that most women can be bought so are you flashing the cash? I am only an inch shorter than you and 10 years younger, unless you are a braggart and a liar won't you please share your secret with the rest of us middle aged males?

[walkaboutwithme]

@MrTombstonemike I'm not saying that I sleep with a different girl every night - far from it. Although I did meet and bed 4 women in 5 days on a trip to Vancouver Canada about 5 years ago. Three of them were university students also traveling (traveling women are often looking for excitment and romance). I think that my "secret" is self-respect (not high self esteem). I don't even approach a skank only quality women. I don't do any "game" BS (I didn't even learn of PUA until 2 years ago)

[walkaboutwithme]

@MrTombstonemike I reread "Zeta Game-Hypergamy Crossroads" (on the web) by Paul Elam and like much of what he writes it was pure gold. Women can smell desperation a mile away and even a hint of it will either turn them off or set them to work on milking you for whatever purpose suits them. The core of Zeta Game is self respect. In practice that means zero tolerance for BS (shit tests) and refusal to be used in any way. Your values and standards must be valued way beyond the company of any woman.

[Moldovawineimporter]

@walkaboutwithme I would agree with your statement who wants sex with 40 + year old women, I sure don't because their awful in bed in so many ways .

I am a 51 years old American now living in the republic of Moldova, women over here 20 + yrs old will seek older men for relationships so I have a buss load of beautiful young lady's I date that have firm body at their prime in life.

I even have a 19 year old beautiful Romanian lady that wants to get married to me if I want her !

[ejdf870]

@Moldovawineimporter Moldova, is that right? I used to have a Romanian friend who would mention this area of Romania, and I always wondered.....

Are you saying that parts of Eastern Europe are similar to Thailand, Dominican Republic, etc as far as getting some action goes?

I will make it my destination if it is.

[walkaboutwithme]

@Moldovawineimporter I plan to check out Eastern Europe as soon as I get a chance. I have lived and traveled extensively in Asia and life has been good! I am totally MGTOW and will never have a monogamous relationship again. Life is to short to get caught up in drama and there is just so much to do and enjoy. Women are a big part of my life but never central. Anyway thanks for the tip on Moldova - I will check it out.

[Moldovawineimporter]

@walkaboutwithme You are welecome .

I found the Moldavian women and Romanian women to be the best after I dated Russian and Ukrainian women .

How I found each ethnic race was the Russian women are kind of rough and are either hidden Vodka boozers or openly Vodka Drunks with a mean temper, Ukrainian women are seriously concerned about what a man can give them in valued gifts, the Moldavian, Romanian women are just plan happy good natured with seeing their men happy .

[Moldovawineimporter]

@walkaboutwithme I would also add that it is cheap to live in Moldova.

One 6 month stay I did cost me for rent food and all the fun I could have with lady friends cost me $1500 .

During this 6 month stay in Moldova I stayed in Odessa Ukraine with a few ladys off and on and then also stayed with a few Romanian ladys in Bucharest and Constanta so I made the rounds visiting all my ladys.

To take a girlfriend to dinner in Chisinau Moldova would cost a man $10 and the women live your for it !

[tweekietweekie]

@Moldovawineimporter lol.ur full of shit.no woman young or old want to be with a fifty year old penis. you know what statistic sez about your old, man parts, right?? the women abroad who "wants" you, really want a GREEN CARD, ya ego maniac. just to set the record strait...women desire.. NOT OLDER MEN..but their money.soo we do not love you... you never for one minute even think that your wrinkled up penis is a turn off.eeeeww.

[klined]

Guys in their 20s will DATE and have SEX with 40 year old women. But they won't MARRY THEM. that's the point you are missing. 40 year old women are for 21 year old men.

[FoodCubes]

@Zac6230 I agree with you. As a young man, I wouldn't touch a woman in her forties. It's just a turn off. But I'm sure there are guys out there that would bang an older lady just for the fun of it, without any strings attached.

[ebonics4everyone]

@FoodCubes Sure. I used to wack off constantly wanting to fuck women my mom's age, when I was 16 or 17. Only those bitches in those days wouldn't touch a young guy with a ten foot pole. There were no cougars before like ten years ago.

[pitviper71]

I have no such fantasy except the the coming downfall of the U.S. & maybe the Capitalist world. :)

[leninovich]

You overvalue women by calling them "ladies." The title lady is earned, not freely given away by virtue of their sex. They are women only. Not ladies. Ladies conduct themselves properly and have standards of behavior, just as gentlemen do. Certainly everyone isnt running around calling every dude a gentleman.

[drfan2004]

The looming economic crises will hand these women their own shit to eat.What's your view on this.

[Zguitar1]

Your points are well thought out through experience, BUT, Times are a changin', If guys could only learn that our modern society has no place for old school ways, They could come to the realization that living single may be their ONLY choice, I have been that way for nearly 49 years, Best decision I have ever made. Settling for someone who settles for you is a nightmare waiting to happen.

[berlinbrown03]

@Steve

Also, I disagree with some of your earlier videos. You say that the "average" guy is having a hard time. I think it is every single guy. It may even be possible that single women are going after married guys for the fun, and maybe random attractive guys.

[berlinbrown03]

@Steve

I believe in a lot of what you have said but there is always something that has gotten me, there are a large number in the US that get married with different looks, etc, etc. My theory is that these guys got married in highschool, college. Maybe even just highschool.  They got in early. Personally I did feel and still do believe it is more fun to have waited it out.

Me and a lot of "normal" single guys at 25-30-40+ decided to be bachelors are stuck with big age gap setting.

[TheSoul86]

You r morrons, everyone of you!!!

There will never will be equal between ladies and men just because women are women and men are men. Stop having lazy!!! And start chasing every girl you see and try to pickup her.

[kenryder]

Steve,

I like your point that most women will face their reckoning via financial troubles. Almost every lady I've ever met spends worse than a drunken sailor on absolute garbage such as: handbags, shoes, clothing, plastic surgery and cosmetics.

[SteveHoca]

@kenryder

I am glad you see it that way. The idea, however, that women will beg men to love them at 40 is a myth since women already get laid well into their 40s when they're out and about on the town. I know this from personal experience knowing certain women of this age.

[adam917]

While I believe most if not all of what you're saying about women having their pick of the litter, I don't believe it will continue for the next half-century+. Technology is changing so quickly now due to the exponential growth of computing power and more & more stuff becoming information technology that no-one really knows how anything past maybe 10 or 15 years is going to be. People do not usually think good in exponential terms, only linear terms. There may also be the Strauss & Howe...

[adam917]

...theory as well, where history is thought of to proceed in cycles of generations called Turnings of roughly 18 to 22 years each like seasons (called the High, Awakening, Unravelling, and Crisis respectively like there is spring, summer, autumn, and winter for seasons) instead of in a linear fashion. The last Unravelling began around 1982 and it's thought that we're currently in the Crisis and if we make it through that there will be a new High likely by 2030 like there was during the 1950s.

[SteveHoca]

@adam917

Adam, I hate to burst your bubble but I can be certain in this respect. Men are still men. They crave sex and validation from women. Computers have nothing to do with this. Men are still going to be treated like second-class citizens unless there is a social movement to change that. Technology will still increase, but this will only further the comfort level of heterosexual women. After all, if there hi-tech car breaks down, they just hire a pussy-whipped man to fix it. See my point?

[adam917]

@SteveHoca

True indeed. I guess we'll have to figure out how we can equalise things in societies and shoot for the goal of having no lop-sidedness.

[SteveHoca]

@adam917

The only way to succeed now is to go overseas and find meaningful work with your present skills. Women in Western society have no use for unattractive or average heterosexual guys. You are a plague to them, and they just wish you'd go away. I see this all the time. There is no in between with women. If they find you unattractive for any reason, anything good about your character or jobs skills is shit-canned out the window. I know this is not hallucination on my part. It's reality.

[worldworks]

@SteveHoca the reason why the dating scene is messed up for males is because there's too many needy pushovers.