Esta música es tan perfecta que ignora su interpretación. No requiere ni de las alabanzas ni de las críticas de nadie, porque está por encima del bien y del mal. Expresa todo lo sagrado que existe en el mundo, que no es sino el propio mundo.
Cualquier explicación a su belleza es inútil, las cosas hermosas no necesitan explicarse ni ser explicadas, ni siquiera ser comprendidas. El Amor es su lenguaje, y es lenguaje del Absoluto.....
With all due respect to the awesomeness of this performance and beauty of this music, every single person on stage looks like they're in the throes of severe intestinal distress.
(cont.) And this orchestra's lack of ability to turn this "sound feeling" into musical ideas is why this is an unsatisfactory recording.
It would probably be incorrect to say that you have not heard any other recordings of the finale to this symphony, but if you have not, allow me to recommend two youtube recordings that are very musically satisfactory... Tennstedt with the London Philharmonic, and Haitink with the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra. Musically top-notch.
(cont.) an experience of their life, event of history, or an idea, but rather, it comes from the "hidden" emotion that comes about inside the person when being a part of the particular piece of music. There is a certain amount of "feeling" in music that relates strictly to sound. And when you turn that "sound" feeling into musical ideas, it adds a depth to the music that makes the piece just as profound and high-quality as a piece with a deep or profound meaning behind it. (cont.)
@ClassicalMusique1 agreed ! 2possibilities : 1) all the people in the room were left completely in awe and could'nt even clap because of their emotion 2) it's a very bad audience full of idiots
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@gera1262 Here Malher is not only completely old style, but also gets this nauseantingly bombastic rethoric of gigantesque only with the number of players. But a profound idea,a really felt sentiment, a sincere emotion - nothing.
I'd think, just as one only example of quite the contrary of all that noise, to Brahms' Requiem. Besides, that there are people getting excited just listening trumpets' decibels, I don't wonder.
Perhaps I'm stupid, but I said two words. You are just boor - full stop.
@bellinianodoc In this case, it is not Mahler who lacks musical ideas. I'm sorry to break it to those who think this is a good performance, but the orchestra lacks some amount of musicality in this recording. The orchestra as a whole falters a BIT in terms of musical direction, perspective, and resolutionary satisfaction, but the trumpets are horrible(in all 3 of these areas) at the end. They start and end at the same damn dynamic. It's called musicality, Vienna Phil trumpet players. Come on.
First of all, I find it highly unlikely that any of Mahler's music lacks a sincere emotion in the composition. I don't think it would be naive to say that most composers, Mahler at least, have a love for music and its beauty, and include this love, if nothing else, as an underlying emotion within their compositions.
Much of the expression that comes from a performer playing a piece of music comes not from an emotion that relates to (cont.)
@konstantingoebler No one does Mahler like Bernstein. That said, Rattle taught this to children, and they performed exceedingly well. That is itself is an amazing accomplishment.
with all of the vastness of space, the cold indifference out there in this universe, it's nice to know that this glorious music can give sense and significance and beauty to our lonely planet,,, thank you Mr. Mahler!!!
Rattle outdoes Bernstein by keeping the momentum going forward. Rattle's soloists are just ok, and nothing like here. If you can find it, a YTube video or CD of a live 1959 performance of the Eighth, in the Royal Albert Hall, played by the LOndon Symphony Orchestra with several choirs stationed around the hall, and joined by a fine bunch of soloists. The recorded sound falls short of spectacular, but still excites and stirs me to the core. I get goose bumps whenever I play the CD.
The vocal soloists sing better than I've ever heard anywhere. Too often the soloists are mismatched, go their way, not bothering to be on pitch or phrasing, which is really scandalous, especially in a piece like Mahler's Eighth. The orchestra plays well, as one should expect from the Vienna Philharmonic, but here they're not up to par. They sag in attention, and every time they do the ensemble sound loses integrity and focus. That may be Bernstein's fault. His stick technique is rudimentary.
With all due respect to the majority of music "Lovers" out there who continuously rate the Beethoven 9th as the greatest symphony ever written- I sincerely do not think even Beethoven can top the Mahler 8th for pure power, emotionalism and epic grandeur
I love this piece, especially when, during the finale, the organ is allowed to let it out! There's a recording of the symphony by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra with Sir Georg Solti that exemplifies that interpretation.
at the very last part of the performance, Bernstein must have felt very bad hearing a missed tone made by a brass, which made the performance unsatisfactory for him...
nice bit of silence at the end. what a respectful audience. wish all would be like that. unfortunatly we get more and more first clappers as it seems.
This is version is realy Amazing!! Lenny is a genius , and had a total understanding of Gustav Mahlers music. But here it is so godlike beautiful that you can´t believe it. Wauw !! What an intense performance. This is again music at it´s highest level!!
Lenny was a theatrical genius but still my favorite conductor of the greatest symphonist of all time...The climax of the 8th (when done properly) is akin to a musical orgasm!
edda moser: my favourite soprano of all times. she is a coloratura soprano. check out her "queen of the night" recordings here on youube. it will blow you away!
I personally find Kubelik's interpretation to be greater. Still, Bernstein's version inspires greatness in the heart, ab imo pectore. Laetare, anima mea! May Mahler's soul rest in peace.
I have this whole performance on DVD and it is one of my favorite recordings/performances. In my opinion it is second only to Robert Shaw's 1991 recording with Atlanta. The Vienna brass is almost totally unmatched in the U.S. though! Only the brass at Chicago can come close!!!
@Magoo0042 to me i think Robert Shaw/ASO's rendition's of Mahler's 8th is the best recoeding right now, as a matter a fact I read somewhere that Shaw himself was planning to record his own Mahler cycle but he passed away before ever getting around that projest.
@thomas4179 Er, so that's why he joined the party twice, the first time in Austria when the Nazi party wasn't recognised? He did it twice "to continue making music without a problem?" So, why was Furtwangler, who stayed in German and helped hundreds of people survive the war, able to to continue making music without joining the party ONCE? I'm asking because I need responses in pro-Karajan discussions - no offence intended!
Do you think Bernstein got what he wanted on the final 8th note? Seems he was looking for something more accented... Either way...truly amazing. Lenny looks so shaken after he puts down his baton; as if he came out of a daze.
Esta música es tan perfecta que ignora su interpretación. No requiere ni de las alabanzas ni de las críticas de nadie, porque está por encima del bien y del mal. Expresa todo lo sagrado que existe en el mundo, que no es sino el propio mundo.
Cualquier explicación a su belleza es inútil, las cosas hermosas no necesitan explicarse ni ser explicadas, ni siquiera ser comprendidas. El Amor es su lenguaje, y es lenguaje del Absoluto.....
requiement 3 weeks ago
Ich glaube, das Fernorchester dirigierte der damals noch ganz junge Giuseppe Sinopoli.
Ich hatte als Mitglied des Staatsopernchores hier mitgesungen. Dieses Konzert ist unvergesslich! Danke lieber Lenny!!!
1sumiresan2 1 month ago
your not a real conductor if you dont sweat waterfalls like Lenny does =D
we miss you Mr.Bernstein<3
13teleportingman 1 month ago 2
Why is it that after listening to this glorious piece, I dream about it every night?
Dan474834 3 months ago
Everytime I try to listen a different version of this finale I stop the video after few minutes, coming to the Bernstein's one.
lupash 4 months ago 5
With all due respect to the awesomeness of this performance and beauty of this music, every single person on stage looks like they're in the throes of severe intestinal distress.
tokenmarsupial 6 months ago
(cont.) And this orchestra's lack of ability to turn this "sound feeling" into musical ideas is why this is an unsatisfactory recording.
It would probably be incorrect to say that you have not heard any other recordings of the finale to this symphony, but if you have not, allow me to recommend two youtube recordings that are very musically satisfactory... Tennstedt with the London Philharmonic, and Haitink with the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra. Musically top-notch.
Bbobe900000 6 months ago
@Bbobe900000 I believe you are incorrect. I've listened to Tennstedt and it doesn't even como close to the grandiosity achieved by Bernstein.
Dan474834 3 months ago
@Bbobe900000 And let's not talk about Haitink with the horrible horrible Gwyneth Jones.
Dan474834 3 months ago
(cont.) an experience of their life, event of history, or an idea, but rather, it comes from the "hidden" emotion that comes about inside the person when being a part of the particular piece of music. There is a certain amount of "feeling" in music that relates strictly to sound. And when you turn that "sound" feeling into musical ideas, it adds a depth to the music that makes the piece just as profound and high-quality as a piece with a deep or profound meaning behind it. (cont.)
Bbobe900000 6 months ago
I cry practically every time I listen to this finale. This is a particularly moving rendition of it. Wow.
princeofcups518 7 months ago
somehow the applause was inadequate to reflect the outstanding and moving performance here
ClassicalMusique1 8 months ago
@ClassicalMusique1 agreed ! 2possibilities : 1) all the people in the room were left completely in awe and could'nt even clap because of their emotion 2) it's a very bad audience full of idiots
thomassmile 4 months ago in playlist Bernstein - Mahler Symphonies
...wow.
i'm speechless.
fledgehog 9 months ago
Mahler&Bernstein beat them all!
777wallaby777 9 months ago
5:20
The Gates of Eternity open.
l3r0ii 10 months ago 9
Erection of the heart.
sdfgdsgfsdfg 11 months ago
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What stupid, empty music.
One thousand musical instruments are useless, when when you lack musical ideas...
bellinianodoc 11 months ago
@bellinianodoc
fuck off
noradosmith 11 months ago 11
@bellinianodoc Oops, you're stupid.
gera1262 9 months ago
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@gera1262 Here Malher is not only completely old style, but also gets this nauseantingly bombastic rethoric of gigantesque only with the number of players. But a profound idea,a really felt sentiment, a sincere emotion - nothing.
I'd think, just as one only example of quite the contrary of all that noise, to Brahms' Requiem. Besides, that there are people getting excited just listening trumpets' decibels, I don't wonder.
Perhaps I'm stupid, but I said two words. You are just boor - full stop.
bellinianodoc 9 months ago
@bellinianodoc In this case, it is not Mahler who lacks musical ideas. I'm sorry to break it to those who think this is a good performance, but the orchestra lacks some amount of musicality in this recording. The orchestra as a whole falters a BIT in terms of musical direction, perspective, and resolutionary satisfaction, but the trumpets are horrible(in all 3 of these areas) at the end. They start and end at the same damn dynamic. It's called musicality, Vienna Phil trumpet players. Come on.
Bbobe900000 6 months ago
@bellinianodoc Now, to defend Mahler.
First of all, I find it highly unlikely that any of Mahler's music lacks a sincere emotion in the composition. I don't think it would be naive to say that most composers, Mahler at least, have a love for music and its beauty, and include this love, if nothing else, as an underlying emotion within their compositions.
Much of the expression that comes from a performer playing a piece of music comes not from an emotion that relates to (cont.)
Bbobe900000 6 months ago
Bernstein knew Mahler's mind and soul.
jgesselberty 11 months ago 5
I'm just mad they butchered this so hardcore.
PhantomRul35 1 year ago
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gctuba99 7 months ago
This is Jesus as he's ascending from Earth.
Lassannn 1 year ago
MY ABSOLUTE LOVE - LENNY ...
Annahola1 1 year ago
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Annahola1 1 year ago
absolutly amazing except of one trumpet at 6:01, nearly destroys the end but bernstein is the best of all forget rattle
konstantingoebler 1 year ago 2
@konstantingoebler No one does Mahler like Bernstein. That said, Rattle taught this to children, and they performed exceedingly well. That is itself is an amazing accomplishment.
electrostatic1 11 months ago
with all of the vastness of space, the cold indifference out there in this universe, it's nice to know that this glorious music can give sense and significance and beauty to our lonely planet,,, thank you Mr. Mahler!!!
MatthuStull 1 year ago 4
@MatthuStull
What a beautiful comment. You captured the essence of Mahler's work!
mftubeyou 1 year ago
This is the Vienna Philharmonic
youngergermanpope 1 year ago
Rattle outdoes Bernstein by keeping the momentum going forward. Rattle's soloists are just ok, and nothing like here. If you can find it, a YTube video or CD of a live 1959 performance of the Eighth, in the Royal Albert Hall, played by the LOndon Symphony Orchestra with several choirs stationed around the hall, and joined by a fine bunch of soloists. The recorded sound falls short of spectacular, but still excites and stirs me to the core. I get goose bumps whenever I play the CD.
GTEd 1 year ago
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GTEd 1 year ago
The vocal soloists sing better than I've ever heard anywhere. Too often the soloists are mismatched, go their way, not bothering to be on pitch or phrasing, which is really scandalous, especially in a piece like Mahler's Eighth. The orchestra plays well, as one should expect from the Vienna Philharmonic, but here they're not up to par. They sag in attention, and every time they do the ensemble sound loses integrity and focus. That may be Bernstein's fault. His stick technique is rudimentary.
GTEd 1 year ago
With all due respect to the majority of music "Lovers" out there who continuously rate the Beethoven 9th as the greatest symphony ever written- I sincerely do not think even Beethoven can top the Mahler 8th for pure power, emotionalism and epic grandeur
katskillkid 1 year ago 2
I am still trembling after hearing this finale..not in fear, but in awe
kanazo 1 year ago
3:49 alles vergängliche...
wsmith68 1 year ago
my gosh iT's THE KONZERTHAUS WHooOOooo HOOOOOo
mahlermahlermahler1 1 year ago
I love this piece, especially when, during the finale, the organ is allowed to let it out! There's a recording of the symphony by the Chicago Symphony Orchestra with Sir Georg Solti that exemplifies that interpretation.
JustJim70118 1 year ago
Is that Eric Morecomb playing in the offstage ensemble?
JackSafferyRowe 1 year ago
at the very last part of the performance, Bernstein must have felt very bad hearing a missed tone made by a brass, which made the performance unsatisfactory for him...
hitejapan 1 year ago
nice bit of silence at the end. what a respectful audience. wish all would be like that. unfortunatly we get more and more first clappers as it seems.
herisauer 1 year ago
This is version is realy Amazing!! Lenny is a genius , and had a total understanding of Gustav Mahlers music. But here it is so godlike beautiful that you can´t believe it. Wauw !! What an intense performance. This is again music at it´s highest level!!
Total moving!!!!!!
Dionysosable 1 year ago 4
The inspiration came to Mahler after his conversion to Catholicism
riaeka 1 year ago
Lenny's 1966 version with The London Symphony is even more inspring!!
hootenhtn 1 year ago
Happy birthday, gustav!!
good job, Lenny, Gustav would be happy for the performance too!!
MAMAZKIAN 1 year ago 3
I just noticed the second conductor up by the offstage brass. He must be having a hell of a time trying to follow Len.
atrain118 1 year ago
trumpets botched last note..
freshhh1994 1 year ago
Mahler is a Genius.
NaylaZim 1 year ago
Lenny was a theatrical genius but still my favorite conductor of the greatest symphonist of all time...The climax of the 8th (when done properly) is akin to a musical orgasm!
katskillkid 1 year ago
Ths Sound of the soprano is unbelievable!!! Who is the woman in the yellow dress? It is fenomenal!!!
gwozdezzz 1 year ago
edda moser: my favourite soprano of all times. she is a coloratura soprano. check out her "queen of the night" recordings here on youube. it will blow you away!
silvr94 1 year ago
@gwozdezzz it's a pleasure introduce to you Edda Moser, a dramatic coloratura soprano, flawless in my personal opinion
boo170807 1 year ago
I personally find Kubelik's interpretation to be greater. Still, Bernstein's version inspires greatness in the heart, ab imo pectore. Laetare, anima mea! May Mahler's soul rest in peace.
RenwickSchofield 1 year ago
I have this whole performance on DVD and it is one of my favorite recordings/performances. In my opinion it is second only to Robert Shaw's 1991 recording with Atlanta. The Vienna brass is almost totally unmatched in the U.S. though! Only the brass at Chicago can come close!!!
Magoo0042 1 year ago
@Magoo0042 to me i think Robert Shaw/ASO's rendition's of Mahler's 8th is the best recoeding right now, as a matter a fact I read somewhere that Shaw himself was planning to record his own Mahler cycle but he passed away before ever getting around that projest.
rkc2380 1 year ago
Oh yes
firesermon22 1 year ago
I like this Bernstein version best~after all is said and done Chacun a son gout...lol
ProfessorHigins 1 year ago
한국에서도 2010년 밀러교향곡 올해 공연할꺼야~! 기대해~! Exellente...!!
ProfessorHigins 2 years ago
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A little slow and agonizing. Bernstein
with all of his drama and stage antics ...
Simon Rattle blows this away.
Just sayin ...
Contrafidelis 2 years ago
I don't understand ..
ValkiriouS 2 years ago
That last eighth note was a disappointment. No doubt Bernstein wanted something bigger.
Overall, though, terrific performance by a terrific orchestra
TimboBandit 2 years ago 2
Bernstein conducts Mahler - a sound for eternity!
RedskinBLN 2 years ago 3
I love Edda Moser and i think here she sounds spectacular, gorgeous..... well thanks for the video, there is not too much about her
boo170807 2 years ago
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davisbone 2 years ago
What does the emphasis on Jewish have to do with it?
Tokkemon 2 years ago 19
I just pointed how Mahler and Bernstein have a lot in common which makes L.B.the perfect Mahlerian conductor
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@Tokkemon The inspiration came to Mahler after his conversion to Catholicism
riaeka 1 year ago
@Tokkemon Mahler converted to Catholicism in order to become the music director of the Vienna Phil. Just an FYI.
sakerd412 1 year ago
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Dan474834 3 months ago
This is a christian symphony and the solution to the mahlerian philosophy.
This is the christian-mahlerian heaven.
jesusjuanpablo 2 years ago
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Umm.. Hmmm.. It was played too slow.
Maybe it was the Jewish genius ...
Contrafidelis 2 years ago
@davisbone Kajaran was nazi, if i remember
Josep489 1 year ago
Josep489 @ no, he had the Nazi party in order to continue making music without a problem.
thomas4179 1 year ago
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@thomas4179 Er, so that's why he joined the party twice, the first time in Austria when the Nazi party wasn't recognised? He did it twice "to continue making music without a problem?" So, why was Furtwangler, who stayed in German and helped hundreds of people survive the war, able to to continue making music without joining the party ONCE? I'm asking because I need responses in pro-Karajan discussions - no offence intended!
TheStockwell 2 months ago
WOW, those vienna horns never let you down!
atrain118 2 years ago 14
Do you think Bernstein got what he wanted on the final 8th note? Seems he was looking for something more accented... Either way...truly amazing. Lenny looks so shaken after he puts down his baton; as if he came out of a daze.
FrEricT 2 years ago
Unglaublich!
marcap1000 2 years ago
"Alles Vergängliche ist nur ein Gleichnis"
Die wunderbarste Musik mit dem wunderbarsten Dirigenten !
tanskiclaudius 2 years ago 3
so beautiful part...
dettitted 2 years ago
Gustav Mahler - one of the greatest, if not THE greatest composer to ever grace our planet.
Shota871 2 years ago 43
@Shota871 one of - he's up there.
sstuddert 1 year ago
@Shota871 Definitely "THE"
katskillkid 1 year ago
@Shota871 BACH
elimaurer85 1 year ago
It was performed open air today in Pécs, Hungary. 45o singers and 15o musicians.
Magnificent and uplifting.
Whyolin 2 years ago
ÊXTASE ABSOLUTO!!!
rocchisal 2 years ago 2
Questa sinfonia è un MIRACOLO!!!!!
prodesica 2 years ago 2
YAAAY 2ND VIEW!
mahlerkid 2 years ago