@DamionCrane america and french canada should have a beru tagather at ye ol swag nad there would be fiAR CRACKas and pruutzels ant he q waould say CAL Of DUT I
@rollsi1 Okay "Glenn Beck" (or even Bill O'Reily). It's funny because this video is pretty much proving Ron Paul is the only politician that knows what he's talking about, knowing that he is 100% pro constitution.
@rollsi1 You're a troll or you didn't watch the video. You can either support the current oligarchy or vote for restraining the Government to it's legal limits, enforcing the law. Do you want a republic or an oligarchy where you have no power?
What about the anarcho capitalists? Stateless Ireland and Iceland had that form of government. Anarcho capitalists should not be should not be mistaken with the anarchist in the video witch are "leftist anarchists".
@4HITMAN7 - Anarcho Capitalist sounds more like a type of Economic philosophy. It's probably won't have been included for that fact but otherwise it probably wasn't around when the video was made.
@247FreedomOps Yes it is a type of economic system and a social system. The philosophy is no one rules over no one only over them self, nothing is based on force only voluntaryism. In this day and age it probably is not possible for this because the people are so dumb down, but something similar is.
What happens then when republic's laws are written by oligarchs, the founding fathers were oligarchy, a select few who felt the masses shouldn't have any role in the formation of law. it just keeps the law relatively constant to ensure their wealth and their social status be fixed for as long as the republic existed. Worship of 'the founding fathers' as if they can solve all of our problems is flawed, they created the republic to ensure constancy and stability, not to reform,.
@poetgenius335 Not quite! The "Rule of law" takes your "Oligarchy" claim out because the people can vote for Representatives to institute just laws that cannot abolish peoples right because all laws must respect the overruling Bill of Rights and Constitution which are in place to limit government and therefore empowering individual rights ! When the power remains within the people, an Oligarchy can never exist !
To be honest I don't know a single western country at least since 20th century which would have been democratic with a system of democracy as described in the video.
There's no a single western democratic country today which wouldn't have a constitution & separation of powers, wouldn't protect individuals & minorities, wouldn't be more or less individualistc etc. No matter what the system is exactly called. Btw virtually all European countries are either constitutional republics or monarchies.
The founding fathers were not opposed to democracy b/c they had this intellectual understanding. THey were opposed to it b/c they were the propertied slave-owning class and wanted to protect their property rights over the poor masse.s
can someone please tell me from what program this comes from? I want a high res copy of this to burn to hundreds of DVD's and pass to anyone who shows any inkling of interest in this kind of thing. THIS IS GOOD STUFF !!
Very good video, but is a bit propagandaish for the US imo, it seems like its only supporting the US way, and only bad ways on the others, but still, very clear
but according to what I saw a republic (obviously the best form) automatically leads to welfare in the state which leads to a democracy which leads to oligarchy. So whatever you choose, you end up with oligarchy.
Okay so i'm hoping that it is clear to every American watching the you MUST vote for Ron Paul in the election if you want this constitutional Republic that this video talks about.
Seriously the system right now is horrible and corrupt as fuck! Makes me rage more than anything else, and if it doesn't make you angry then you really haven't been paying attention..
@ilove60s Listen, when you spread the wealth, everybody's poor. That's what communism does. Even if you work hard, you'll only make as much money as someone who completely slacks off at their job . And that's why it's a very inefficient form of government.
the truly sad part is many of our founding fathers warned against the very things which are currently destroying what's left of our Republic. With the advent of OWS we slip further into the mob rule of democracy followed by who knows what.
@ilove60s1 Obviously, you have LITTLE understanding of communism, or any other political ideology come to that. I'll tell you what, go read a few history books, and learn from them. Learn what communism did for the people of Eastern Europe, Russia, China etc. Yes, china may have a booming economy, for now. But the chinese people live just above the poverty line, with no real prospects, and many restrictions on their day to day lives and freedoms.
@nomoreliblabcon The most sickening thing about that isn't that a communist country has lots of money - it's that the people will NEVER be able to benefit from it.
@nomoreliblabcon Communism is a weapon against every nation it infects. From the years of 1917 - 1991 around 150 million Russians were victims of Communism. Liberalism is Communism's new face and the goal is the same the complete breakdown and destruction of society and the seizure of all the wealth.
@nomoreliblabcon Look at what Obama has done and is doing the middle class is being destroyed and emotionalism and petty crap is pushed forward to keep us from focusing on what is killing us. It's not any group of people it's the Government. Look at what they are doing to Ron Paul who is just offering enforcing the law. We are so brainwashed that we cannot envision a world anymore where the government is not unrestrained we are afraid and paranoid at the thought of freedom.
@nomoreliblabcon The only reason China is in it's current state is because of it's population size. It was infected with wave one communism. Look at it's policies. All families can only have 1 child this halves the population every generation while the wealth is slowly being sucked up by the ruling class.
@nomoreliblabcon I just finished Das Kapital and it left me thinking that there has never been a true communist government for the simple reason that they never abolished the use of money. I think they were all just selfish regimes aimed at the accquisition of power for a few disguised as "communism", and exploited by capitalists as a threat against the citizens of capitalist nations to help keep them in line. Making them all Oligarchies, sadly.
@nomoreliblabcon OMG, do you seriously believe that China is still a communist country? The correct classification for China is an autocratic-capitalist state, and its the new government system for surviving in this era. Democracy is obsolete in this day and age, it doesn't work unless you're a wealthy developed country to begin with like the US. China has 1.6 billion people competing for limited space and resources. There will be chaos if you try to govern through votes.
@nomoreliblabcon Con't - Look at the rest of the world, most newly-fledged democracies end up turning into dictatorships or countries fractured into warring factions. China is the same and we went through all that during our civil war. CNN tends to neglect to tell people that there WAS a democracy in China once, but it fell apart for the reasons I stated. And its not even the Communist's fault, those guys hiding in Taiwan STARTED the arrests and political executions, not PRC
@ilove60s1 Communism is Ex) If I worken 100 times harder than one person who did nothing and say all we worked for was food and shelter. We would both recive the exact same things nomatter what!
Rome collapsed because the military pensions for their officers brought them to bankruptcy. That as well as their dominance over vast areas of land which was unsustainable. Dirty Romans.
too late - the republic has been on the major decline since Nixon. Yes others laid the foundation (most notably Woodrow Wilson and FDR) but Nixon deciding to remove the gold standard was an open declaration that the elite, not the people, were firmly in power - and nothing any of us can do will stop them from owning and using us as merely labour and livestock.
Please register republican to be able to vote ron paul in the primaries and then vote him as president so he will end the FED, the IRS and return our government to a Republic by the people, for the people and of the people!
In a Constitutional Democracy a lynch mob catches up to a man and wants to hang him, but can't because it's against the law and if they do they'll all be tried on murder charges.
In a Republic the Lynch Mob catches up to a man and wants to hang him, and a politician promises to hang him for your vote, then pardons him for a bribe, then sends some other guy to the electric chair on weak evidence because he's too busy to hear the case.
And there's no contradiction between Republic and Oligarchy.
@Laughingblades there is no contradiction if the country has a populace with integrity and character. But then you have to ask....where do we get these virtues?
My favorite part is when he talks about Lenin taking complete control of Russia. The guy is wrong on so many things in so many ways, but when he said that I about died laughing. Americans will believe any bullshit they're spoon fed if it reinforces their preconceived notions, that's why the world thinks you're stupid, but this dumbass doesn't even know who Lenin was, and Soviet Russia was a slap in the face to Lenin, it was only soviet in name and betrayed it's promise to the workers.
@agamemnon960 This video is full of errors and inaccuracies and is made by a man who doesn't know what socialism is, doesn't know shit about Roman history, fails to account for forms of democracy with rule of law, doesn't know who Lenin was (Lenin took absolute power? Srsly? When did that happen? What year plz tell me), and presents a false dichotomy between republic and oligarchy when the two are completely compatible and the most common form of republic is oligarchical republic.
The oligarch of today can be an average citizen with no official position, yet he has the power to influence the masses by tools like the printing press or the internet.A good example is the global warming scam, politicians have no other choice then following the brainwashed public in order to be elected.And that's the crux of the matter, democracy is NOT a voting system it's a process taking centuries to evolve, since it requires an educated and cautiously skeptical society.
The first four kings of Rome after Romulus beginning with Numa Pompilius were constitutional monarchs who were elected to power democratically from a electoral college but governed for life within the bounds of a social contract,The King served the role of commander-in-chief, Chief priest, chief magistrate & legislator ect.. much like the later emperors, Unlike the imperial era they could not designate an heir or enact legislation without the rubber stamp of the two legislative branches .
The first four kings of Rome after Romulus beginning with Numa Pompilius were constitutional monarchs who were elected to power democratically from a electoral college but governed for life within the bounds of a social contract,The King served the role of commander-in-chief, Chief priest, chief magistrate & legislator ect.. much like the later emperors, Unlike the imperial era they could not designate an heir or enact legislation without the rubber stamp of the two legislative branches .
The roman republic was always an oligarchy since it was established by the pre-existing nobility that codified their privilege political status into law, While the plebeian freemen were given the right of representation & could vote on the passage of legislation in the curiae they were not eligible to run for high office or command an army without either being born into a patrician family or the lower tier aristocratic rank of equestrian.
trying to pin down different political ideologies under the black & white paradigm of left or right is foolish, It assumes everything falls under the dualism of black & white, These labels just serve the purpose of political mud flinging & appeals to popular ignorance.
"Those who label Nazism and Fascism as Right Wing never define their Terms" they Define them base don how how the Neo-Nons have changed Conservatism. Today the average dolt first and foremost thinks of "Right Wing" as synonym for "Relgious Right" which Hitler and Mussolini did indeed use the Church.
Corporatism is the word that should really define all those Far left Governments.
@thenoorys No it's not, it is right on you nut job. What public school did you go to? How in what way shape or form does him saying that our country was founded as a republic and the words democracy never appear in the dec of independence, or the constitution??? That is nothing but 100% TRUE you fool...
@FriLLox You haven't listened to the complete sentences around those words. Lenin and Hitler and the Ayatollah Khomainei and Castro created chaos, where the people demanded someone step forwards and prevent anarchy being established. I hope that clarifies the matter.
True Monarchy doesn't really exist, but not all "Monarchies" have been Oligarchies in disuse, Ancient Israel and even very early Rome where basically Constitutional Monarchies, being in effect Republics, where the "King" didn't really have much more Power then our President is supposed to have. Modern England pretends to be such a system of course, but like here the Oligarchs have taken over.
I was told by someone in the know that communism was considered a utoptian state of the world when all countries participated in the same socilalist system. This individual is Russian. They blamed the U.S. for not being able to achieve communism because we were selfish.
When they recommended a more agressive solution they were told that the population was equipped to repel a standing force. Until the equipment was removed it would not be possible.
Interesting video. The sad part is though, the only ones who will watch such a video are those who actually know that "without law there is no freedom".
Interesting video. The sad part is though, the only ones who will watch such a video are those who actually know that "without law there is no freedom".
Cool vid. Although the political spectrum is actually a circle rather than a continuum. Fascists claim that Facism is corporatism. Government departments were headed by industrialists instead of ministers/secretaries. Under communism (as practiced) industry was run by government depts. So both extremes are actually similar. Of course, from the citizen's view, what's the difference?
As for communism not working in modern civilization, it most certainly does. Even now there are small examples of it working all over the world. The difference between anarchists and communists is that communists realise the need of a transitional society before you can achieve statelessness and classlessness. This transitional society is called socialism. It can be statist or it can be a workers' state, depending on what you want.
@Squirtleforpresident You're talking about Russian communism in your second sentence. for your last paragraph the person was talking about that anarchism (idk about pure communism) is a transitional state when power changes to an oligarchy or a constitutional republic
"Russian communism" - what? Communism is communism. It is stateless regardless of what kind of communism it is. Socialism is the only communist-esque system that can have a state. "Anarchism is a transitional state when power changes to an oligarchy" - what the fuck?
@Squirtleforpresident Russian communism is an imperfect state of communism aka extreme socialism it's just a term I use nothing more and I was only repeating the statement that this person said even though I disagree with him as well.
It's a faulty term then, because communism is stateless. Socialists want communism, communism isn't extreme socialism, the soviet union wasn't ultra-socialist or extreme-socialist, and it's even debatable if it was socialist at all. Otherwise North Korea would be democratic too. Just because an entity claims to be one of ideology x doesn't mean it is.
@cookiesofamerica Actually, the family unit is communism. If your father didn't charge you at a profit for the food he fed you when you were young then he was a communist. Sorry this video is bullshit. And the heritage society has a long "heritage" of trying to rewrite history to fit fascism into the left wing. When actually the real difference between leftwing and rightwing is conservatism and liberalism. Conservatism is protectionist and includes thing like nationalism and statism
@marcellin20a Oligarchy, the communist party, the high officials rule the country, but they do a good job so far, crimi punished quickly and swiftly, an economy that scares the living shit out of the occident and an army that can conquer Asia within months. They just need better health system in the countryside and some job refulatory laws. Give them that and i'd move there.
Last, and probably your flawed argument that the Roman Empire collapsed because of the introduction of social welfare systems. More research required here. Consider this; social welfare is a way of maintaing the status quo by placating the poor by giving them just enough to survive. Without social welfare, crime rates would go up and there would be a greater degree of anarchy within society. Social welfare not only serves the intererets of the poor, it also serves the interests of the wealthy.
False dichotomy present here. Democracy (at least on some level) does exist within America. It is misleading to suggest America is in no way democratic. Look into the separation of powers. You argue the law is what keeps people safe. However you fail to mention the government makes the law... the government is elected by the people... the constitution is changed by the vote of the people... there's your democractic system. A fundamental part of the American system.
When you add an economic dimension to the political ideologies axis, the Nazis come out more right than left, because they didn't control the economy (in fact big business did better under the third reich than Weimar) and prioritised nationalist//law and order policies that are more the preserve of the political right than the left. You also fail to stipulate how government representatives should be chosen in your 'Republic'. It would have to be democractic to avoid degenration into oligarchy.
@RestAssuredDrummer Nonsense. Lets take historical example: women -- more than 49 % of the population -- were unable to own property and disfranchised when the US was less democratic. When the democratic institutions were enhanced, the state of minorities and women improved. The true threat to society is not the rule of majority, but the concentration of power and wealth in the hands of a narrow minority.
Good video thanks for clarifying much of the distortion of political systems. Im interested to know why comunism or socialism are not touched upon, is it because they are primarily economic systems rather than political ones?
@94MCtryland "Capitalism" causes it? You mean like the anti-free trade isolationists, who tend to be Liberals, who don't want us spending money else where in the world? Being anti-outsourcing is anti-third world jobs. And the countries these starving people are from, how "Capitalistic" are they really? India or China might care about money, but they aren't free markets or free people. Please find an example where true poverty (not the iPod poverty of America) is in a place where people are free.
The political spectrum is NOT two dimensional. A correct political spectrum like this video tries to show is three dimensional. Left and right being based on how the people in the society work together often through a economical system, like it traditionally is. Then you have basicly an up and down which explains how much power the state has. In this spectrum Statist sosialism will be on the top left. Facism will be on the top right, anarcho-communism will be on the bottom left and so on
To end... democracy and republic are not on the same level.
Republic - Monarchy
Dictatorship - Democracy - Anarchy
about the oligarchy, yes it is the rule of a few... but im not sure its the way you put it... I was tought for example that in ancient greece. while Athenes was a democracy, Sparta was an Oligarchy, that was ruled by a small council of elders. Not by a king with secret helpers in the back. (Not saying that sparta had no king)
last comment =D, about anarchy... im not sure if its the one you reffer to... but there are quite a few kinds. The one that the rioters defend is usually whats considered sindical anarchy. Its proposition is that of eliminating any mayor goverment and letting the people organise themselfs in small comunitys that would latter interact with other communities. At least I think thats it... Spain had a lot of anarchyst during the end of the XIX and begining of the XX centuries, thats wy I know.
I am spanish, and in Spain their is still a royal house just like in the UK. Spain and the UK are at the same time democracys and monarquies although the royal house doesnt have a complete power in the goverment it still has some. However, the USA has no king, and therefore is a republic and a democracy. Stalins rusia and Hitlers germany were republics and dictatorships, although one was a left-right dictatorship and the other was a right-side dictatorship.
And about the democracy and republic terms... the way Ive been thought it. One thing has absolutly nothing to do with the other. A republic is SIMPLY AND ONLY the counterpart to a monarqy, that means a republic is any country without a royal house, Hitlers germany was a republic, Stalins rusia was a republic, France is currently a republic since their royal house (im not sure its still alive) has no power at all in the goverment. However, Churchil´s UK was NOT a republic with Isabel II as queen.
I am sorry to say this is totally messed up... this is defanetly not the way the meanings of democracy, republic, anarchy and other words where tought to me. First of all, fascism is places in the far-right and communism in the far-left while democracy is in the center not because of the form of goverment but by the main ideas that move those type of movements. Democracy is in the middle because it has parts of both, the less radical parts of course.
@Gabri27SZ I like how everything you said confused the shit out of me and everything the video said made perfect sense. I can't listen to jargon.. the ideas you presented are the same ideas the media presents.. its mind-numbing. You started off your rant with what the video was trying to clear up.. Left and Right is not based on ideas, but on government involvement. The instant you looked at it as an idea... you lost me and probably everyone else. It's all about perspective.
@jonjon1189 According to you Stalins, Hitlers, Musolinis, Castros, Salazars, Francos, and all other dictatorships are the same becouse they absorb all the power into one person or a very few??? Sorry but no, left and right IS ALL about ideas. Im sorry i wasnt able to explain it better. However if there is anything in particular you dont understand I would be glad to expain it to you. Not becouse something is easier to understand is that thing correct, like I said, this video mixes concepts.
@Gabri27SZ I never said they were all the same, but they do all have extreme government intervention. Let's take Hitler vs. Stalin. Both were dictators and both were trying to help the people, but one was trying to empower the people through the state and the other was trying to empower the people directly. Two different philosophies, yet two very similar powers. According to you there isn't just a left and right wing.. there is an up, down, left, right, upside-down, AND inside-out wing.
@Gabri27SZ You were taught the European models that are still farther left than the American model that broke the mold. All the ones to the left of the center have someone ruling the people. In our country, we rule ourselves through people who we elect to represent us, not to rule us. Even President Obama represents us (whether some like it or not), he does not rule us. Even the media says "rule" but that is not correct. This is why these videos are being made, to shake up the education system!
@Heatherbloom75 thats getting a bit out of the subject of what I was discussing at first (which is merely the concepts of theses words). However if you bealive that becouse your goverment does not influence your daily life as much as ours do, you are freer, you are not only wrong but also a fool. The freedom you posses is only yours becouse your goverment ALLOWS you to have it. It seems to me you have been tought the American model, where your goverment gives you this ilusion you call freedom.
@Gabri27SZ Hey, I totally agree with you and that is what the issue is. People do not know what were were when we were founded and they have given up all those rights for The Great Society. At least that is how I have seen it evolve in my lifetime. From the other perspective, the freedom that we possess is only because the government has not taken it away yet! But I think that is the road we are on (you know that car Obama is driving now that he took the keys from GOP) No, I do see the diff. Thx
Well, this could have saved me four years of college learning Political Science! More than head knowledge, however, I think that it takes years of wisdom to understand the application in our own society. Yesterday someone was equating Right Wing with Nazis. I was offended because my father fought against them in WWII. His brother was killed. No one in our family is in any sense Nazi, althoug we are conservatives. Now that I'm gray I comprehend that no matter the label, the Results are the same.
@michaelwuzthere They are "hand in hand" because we do elect our representatives, but they represent us they do not rule* us. However, we are losing the balance between the two. Too bad we don't learn "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" in school because we have history repeating itself. What is "separate" is the results and that is what people are too complacent to appreciate. People had to fight for their rights--not that they did not have them, but that the *Representatives* denied them.
@Heatherbloom75 the Roman Empire fell because democracy was abandoned completely and a one man dictatorship under an emperor took its place. Kind of like what happened under the Bush administration. This propaganda film advocates for that very concept - eliminating any traces of democracy and giving all the power to an unaccountable non-representing "representative" government.
@michaelwuzthere Actually, this video is not advocating any particular system. It is just an explanation of the differences between them, using the American system as a way of explaining republicanism. But you being a communist, you will naturally think there is a hidden agenda. All I will say is Animal Farm. "we are all equal, but some are more equal than others"
And the Roman empire fell for a number of reasons, not just because it was ruled from a small city, in a small mediterranean country,
@nomoreliblabcon he said it's retarded because it's full of factual errors, false dichotomies, misrepresentations of systems of government, inaccurate history, I mean for fucks sake man can you please tell me when Lenin took total control of Russia because I'd really like to know what year that was, Lenin was an activist he never took control over anything and Russia not only shat all over his ideology they shat all over the worker and called themselves socialist when they did it.
@donmont10 Constitutional Monarchy moves from Total Govt to Oligarchy. The difference between a Monarch and a Dictator is behavior. Queen Elizabeth's ancestors once had 100% authoritarian rule. Treason was a crime against the Crown, not the State. Their history had many dictators, hence the Magna Carta giving the people rights. In her coronation speech, E2 vowed "to serve the People"-so diff the perception of even this US Pres or Congress who think that they "rule" us. We may fall like ROME did.
@Heatherbloom75 I do believe the US will fall, but still, In a Constitutional monarchy a Monarch has very little political powers, and Queen Elizabeth doesnt even like getting involved in Politics...
@Tellinhowitis121 :3 I have a question. Why is Ron Paul the only other option we're told we have? Why the media black out of any other third party that isn't a novelty act?
No disrespect to Dr Ron Paul, but he is a wall street business tycoon who's made millions in gold bond investments, and he doesn't believe in worker's entitlements and wants to get rid of the income tax and replace it with a flat tax which would effectively raise taxes on the worker and give the rich a tax break.
@Tellinhowitis121 I think the media blackout of alternatives like Stewart Alexander is telling, they even cancel events if they know it will give him a platform to speak. Right now more than anything we need to support the working class and give them the power to generate wealth, we need to get rid of the restraining property laws that prevent collective ownership of companies so that workers unions can start and run their own work place. Corporations can collectively own it why not the workers?
@Laughingblades I cannot deny that it does seem ron paul is the only choice purely because of his reputability. As for the flat tax question, we will know what everyone pays. A rich banker (no pun intended) and I want to buy a house for 10 million dollars and we have a 10 percent flat tax. He gets charged an extra million if really wants the house. Now compare that to a house only costing 100,000 and you will see why this tax doesn't really favor anyone and seems to work out for everyone
@Tellinhowitis121 It is unfortunate that there are so many loop holes and our tax system needs a lot of cleaning up, but as it stands a flat tax would increase taxation on the working class (like me) and lower taxes on the business elites (including millionaires like Ron Paul), so a flat tax is not in the interest of the worker. Cleaning up the tax code and simplifying it definitely is, but a flat tax isn't.
A question I ask is why only millionaires are allowed to represent the working class.
@Laughingblades BINGO, look into who and what the GOVERMENT is, and you'll have the answers in your face ''GOVERMENT'' From the Latin ''Gubernare -> control, govern, restrain, rule'' - Also Latin word for ''Mente'' is MIND. So full trainslation. ''Controle or Rule of the Mind=Goverment'' they're not even hiding it. People are to brainwashed to even see it. Education doesn't cure, it just informs! Words can be used to manipulate rather then inform. People need to wake up! NOW!
@Keelox100 We need a worker's democracy. The workers create a nations wealth, they're the ones who make a nation a super power, they're the ones grinding their blood sweat and tears into it's soil, and often spilling it abroad. And what do we have? A system in which private owners may as well say "Come work for me for a minimum wage while I reap all the benefits of your labor, and treat you like a disposable commodity" and then politicians take their voice away and represent the business elite
@Laughingblades You have missed the entire point of this video. The private owners make more of the wealth, but the workers at minimum also improve more than if they had no job.
@sthomaslewis And if the workers own the work place and take home earnings representative of their share in the company and their contributions as labor, they'd be far better off than in this top down business monarchy in which one person is allowed to monopolize the work place and exploit labor by taking a disproportionate share of their income and giving them only a small share of their labor value back as an hourly wage while treating them as a disposable commodity.
@Keelox100 And they won't even allow the workers to band together and form a cooperative, they even try to take away their right to unionize, and do everything in their power to vilify the unions and undermine and discredit them and take away what little collective power they have. Why are the business elites so afraid of allowing workers to form workers cooperatives? Because they know the unions will flock to them and out compete them all, the capitalists, the corporatists, they would lose.
@valflyinf Corporations did not exist-but the concept of free enterprise and keeping what you earn DID. That was very clear. And why should not a person keep what he makes, say growing your own food, milk and eggs from your animals, furniture you make? Our economic system has evolved so that we can buy those goods rather than making them ourselves. Most would not survive! A corporation is just a group that got together to do it for a larger population. That's why 3rd World doesn't have them.
@Benjamin42079 What about Caesar? I haven't studied Rome history only to know it wasn't built in a day, that it fell for the reasons mentioned in video. Since then I learned as a republic, they GAVE UP their FREEDOM to a dictator which is what I know from the Bible. So if you are saying that we should "render unto Caesar" as oft quoted--We are not Roman subjects or citizens, We The People are Americans. We should pay our taxes, but not to RULERS. Our Gov REPRESENTS us. Did that answer your ques?
@gauravzerogravity YES-BUT they got FREED because they have RIGHTS in a Republic not in those various other "regimes". Even in anarchy, the citizen becomes a slave or a prisoner in their own home if they are afraid or it's too dangerous to go out. People have "inalienable rights" and that includes self governing which tacitly implies Freedom. That is what the Founder's fought for, and even though some were slave owners, they also freed them long before the Civil War came. But SELF must be GOOD.
nice explanation but funny opinion about reality...i like Americans but the US gov is fucking us ..from american indian to modern wars and the global govern the do...this is terrible...and this video is trying to make us believe the Republicanism is the best type of goverment...that's relly funny cause America has Oligarchy as most places in the word...they sacrifice freedom for any funny reasons in the word and kill people if they think they are harming their country...
@Andy0n7 governments dont fuck people... people fuck people. guns dont kill people, people kill people. dont think that not having a gun is going to stop someone from trying to kill somebody. stupid government isnt the problem, stupid people who allow other stupid people in government are the problem. you cant change the government to fix the people, you have to change the people to fix the government.
@ambagoli21 right opinion generally and i wish i agree but what happens if gov control (i mean guide and abet us) and make us weak to redirect the attack of them...i wish people could defense and make a real DEMOCRACY...i really dont know what to wish as when rely on people they always think of their personal interest as govs do...i wish i can change the word but...
"you start trying to change the world and you downstream changing channels..."
@Andy0n7 stop liberalism. democracy is not the answer. democracy is the problem, because the masses are uneducated. we cannot trust the masses, because the masses are the problem. a righteous and educated few who know what is right must do what they can using whatever methods they can. we need to change the world, adolf hitler style, and i'm not joking. we have the manpower and the will necessary to make the necessary changes, the problem is much has been done to keep the righteous silent.
@Andy0n7 we need to stop condemning nationalism and fascism. multicultural nonsense, liberalism, and communism is the problem. fascism is the answer to our problems. historically speaking, fascism (the belief that nations and their respective peoples have a right to assert their own existence) is the only thing that has ever brought progress in humanity. look at africa for instance. it was european nationalism which made it possible to organize men to civilize and colonize that god forsaken zoo.
@Andy0n7 so long as we condemn our patriots for wanting to defend their own homeland for their own peoples, no homeland shall be safe. DOWN WITH COMMUNISM! DOWN WITH LIBERALISM! DOWN WITH STUPIDITY! UP WITH EUGENICS! UP WITH A SCIENTIFIC SOCIETY FOR THOSE WHO CREATED IT AND THOSE WHO ARE WORTHY!!! support your local patriots, that is all you can do. dont listen to people who say we need to be kind to others... FUCK THAT. they need to pick themselves up and crawl out of their caves just like us.
".government the fix to people the change to have you, people the fix to government the change cant you. problem the are government in people stupid other allow who people stupid, problem the isnt government stupid. somebody kill to trying from someone stop to going is gun a having not that think dont. people kill people, people kill dont guns. people fuck people...people fuck dont governments"
@Andy0n7 sorry its frustrating typing only 150 or so odd characters at a time. can't fit an entire idea without splicing it up and it makes for retarded statements sometimes and i dont care to fix em.
Government, is essentially just people getting together and decided what not to do, and what to do. It's an advanced form of co-operation. The future is in a scientifically educated society, where everyone is an enforcer and tries to look after everyone else. Everyone governs themselves, and decisions are arrived at.
The only true governing force is nature, and so far we are breaking it's laws. Not enforced by police, but instead by natural consequences that is driving our species to extinction.
We need to look beyond this "box" of governments and start something different. We need a smarter, more up-to-date social system where people actually have knowledge in how to solve social problems. A law is just patchwork for societies that don't know how to solve such an issue.
Thumbs up if you think america is currently an oligarchy.
DamionCrane 1 week ago 5
@DamionCrane america and french canada should have a beru tagather at ye ol swag nad there would be fiAR CRACKas and pruutzels ant he q waould say CAL Of DUT I
rmallat12 4 days ago
Vote RP if you are for anarchy. Otherwise, be smart.
rollsi1 2 weeks ago
@rollsi1 Okay "Glenn Beck" (or even Bill O'Reily). It's funny because this video is pretty much proving Ron Paul is the only politician that knows what he's talking about, knowing that he is 100% pro constitution.
GOllumboy101 1 week ago 2
@rollsi1 You're a troll or you didn't watch the video. You can either support the current oligarchy or vote for restraining the Government to it's legal limits, enforcing the law. Do you want a republic or an oligarchy where you have no power?
Luigi84289 1 week ago
@rollsi1 go have a big bash BIG BASH BIG BASH BIG BASH
;.
rmallat12 4 days ago
What about the anarcho capitalists? Stateless Ireland and Iceland had that form of government. Anarcho capitalists should not be should not be mistaken with the anarchist in the video witch are "leftist anarchists".
4HITMAN7 3 weeks ago
@4HITMAN7 - Anarcho Capitalist sounds more like a type of Economic philosophy. It's probably won't have been included for that fact but otherwise it probably wasn't around when the video was made.
247FreedomOps 2 weeks ago
@247FreedomOps Yes it is a type of economic system and a social system. The philosophy is no one rules over no one only over them self, nothing is based on force only voluntaryism. In this day and age it probably is not possible for this because the people are so dumb down, but something similar is.
4HITMAN7 2 weeks ago
Vote ron paul please
rlaneberg 1 month ago
What happens then when republic's laws are written by oligarchs, the founding fathers were oligarchy, a select few who felt the masses shouldn't have any role in the formation of law. it just keeps the law relatively constant to ensure their wealth and their social status be fixed for as long as the republic existed. Worship of 'the founding fathers' as if they can solve all of our problems is flawed, they created the republic to ensure constancy and stability, not to reform,.
poetgenius335 1 month ago
@poetgenius335 Not quite! The "Rule of law" takes your "Oligarchy" claim out because the people can vote for Representatives to institute just laws that cannot abolish peoples right because all laws must respect the overruling Bill of Rights and Constitution which are in place to limit government and therefore empowering individual rights ! When the power remains within the people, an Oligarchy can never exist !
PTTHOR 3 weeks ago
RON PAUL - enough said.
skullcrushernz 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos 18
To be honest I don't know a single western country at least since 20th century which would have been democratic with a system of democracy as described in the video.
There's no a single western democratic country today which wouldn't have a constitution & separation of powers, wouldn't protect individuals & minorities, wouldn't be more or less individualistc etc. No matter what the system is exactly called. Btw virtually all European countries are either constitutional republics or monarchies.
HCorell 1 month ago
The founding fathers were not opposed to democracy b/c they had this intellectual understanding. THey were opposed to it b/c they were the propertied slave-owning class and wanted to protect their property rights over the poor masse.s
94lukepl 1 month ago
@94lukepl That's why they wrote "All men are created equal" huh ? FAIL !
PTTHOR 3 weeks ago
can someone please tell me from what program this comes from? I want a high res copy of this to burn to hundreds of DVD's and pass to anyone who shows any inkling of interest in this kind of thing. THIS IS GOOD STUFF !!
nerys71 1 month ago 3
@nerys71 It comes from the video called "Overview of America" You can find it at jbs.org The rest of the video is just as good.
PTTHOR 3 weeks ago
Very good video, but is a bit propagandaish for the US imo, it seems like its only supporting the US way, and only bad ways on the others, but still, very clear
RainSunShowers 2 months ago
@RainSunShowers is the video wrong? what other ways do you speak of?
nerys71 1 month ago
Good vid,
but according to what I saw a republic (obviously the best form) automatically leads to welfare in the state which leads to a democracy which leads to oligarchy. So whatever you choose, you end up with oligarchy.
TheWackoDouche 2 months ago
Okay so i'm hoping that it is clear to every American watching the you MUST vote for Ron Paul in the election if you want this constitutional Republic that this video talks about.
Seriously the system right now is horrible and corrupt as fuck! Makes me rage more than anything else, and if it doesn't make you angry then you really haven't been paying attention..
skullcrushernz 2 months ago
Republic should be in the middle.
JITTERdUdEepic 2 months ago
@TheTokkin Can you explain?
JITTERdUdEepic 2 months ago
@ilove60s Listen, when you spread the wealth, everybody's poor. That's what communism does. Even if you work hard, you'll only make as much money as someone who completely slacks off at their job . And that's why it's a very inefficient form of government.
JITTERdUdEepic 2 months ago
the truly sad part is many of our founding fathers warned against the very things which are currently destroying what's left of our Republic. With the advent of OWS we slip further into the mob rule of democracy followed by who knows what.
Vafuth 2 months ago
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communism is the best
a country which is rich is always the best
ilove60s1 2 months ago
@ilove60s1 Obviously, you have LITTLE understanding of communism, or any other political ideology come to that. I'll tell you what, go read a few history books, and learn from them. Learn what communism did for the people of Eastern Europe, Russia, China etc. Yes, china may have a booming economy, for now. But the chinese people live just above the poverty line, with no real prospects, and many restrictions on their day to day lives and freedoms.
nomoreliblabcon 2 months ago 18
@nomoreliblabcon The most sickening thing about that isn't that a communist country has lots of money - it's that the people will NEVER be able to benefit from it.
SpadaccinoLuciano 1 month ago
@nomoreliblabcon Communism is a weapon against every nation it infects. From the years of 1917 - 1991 around 150 million Russians were victims of Communism. Liberalism is Communism's new face and the goal is the same the complete breakdown and destruction of society and the seizure of all the wealth.
Luigi84289 1 week ago
@nomoreliblabcon Look at what Obama has done and is doing the middle class is being destroyed and emotionalism and petty crap is pushed forward to keep us from focusing on what is killing us. It's not any group of people it's the Government. Look at what they are doing to Ron Paul who is just offering enforcing the law. We are so brainwashed that we cannot envision a world anymore where the government is not unrestrained we are afraid and paranoid at the thought of freedom.
Luigi84289 1 week ago 2
@nomoreliblabcon The only reason China is in it's current state is because of it's population size. It was infected with wave one communism. Look at it's policies. All families can only have 1 child this halves the population every generation while the wealth is slowly being sucked up by the ruling class.
Luigi84289 1 week ago
@nomoreliblabcon I just finished Das Kapital and it left me thinking that there has never been a true communist government for the simple reason that they never abolished the use of money. I think they were all just selfish regimes aimed at the accquisition of power for a few disguised as "communism", and exploited by capitalists as a threat against the citizens of capitalist nations to help keep them in line. Making them all Oligarchies, sadly.
EvilMarler 1 week ago
@nomoreliblabcon OMG, do you seriously believe that China is still a communist country? The correct classification for China is an autocratic-capitalist state, and its the new government system for surviving in this era. Democracy is obsolete in this day and age, it doesn't work unless you're a wealthy developed country to begin with like the US. China has 1.6 billion people competing for limited space and resources. There will be chaos if you try to govern through votes.
kovona 3 days ago
@nomoreliblabcon Con't - Look at the rest of the world, most newly-fledged democracies end up turning into dictatorships or countries fractured into warring factions. China is the same and we went through all that during our civil war. CNN tends to neglect to tell people that there WAS a democracy in China once, but it fell apart for the reasons I stated. And its not even the Communist's fault, those guys hiding in Taiwan STARTED the arrests and political executions, not PRC
kovona 3 days ago
@ilove60s1 Communism is Ex) If I worken 100 times harder than one person who did nothing and say all we worked for was food and shelter. We would both recive the exact same things nomatter what!
mitzitwo 2 months ago
@ilove60s1 Visit China and tell me how "free" they are there.
apex403 2 months ago
Rome collapsed because the military pensions for their officers brought them to bankruptcy. That as well as their dominance over vast areas of land which was unsustainable. Dirty Romans.
jacob7207 2 months ago
too late - the republic has been on the major decline since Nixon. Yes others laid the foundation (most notably Woodrow Wilson and FDR) but Nixon deciding to remove the gold standard was an open declaration that the elite, not the people, were firmly in power - and nothing any of us can do will stop them from owning and using us as merely labour and livestock.
TheJuggtron 2 months ago
@TheJuggtron Gold standard will die too. Has to be a monetary system that is NOT debt based.
YiuTeub 2 months ago
Please register republican to be able to vote ron paul in the primaries and then vote him as president so he will end the FED, the IRS and return our government to a Republic by the people, for the people and of the people!
auditorization 2 months ago
I love this. It's straight to the point. I never was able to wrap my head around some of these things while in school.
Greystud11 2 months ago
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linwooddeaton 3 months ago
This video is a good example of various governments!
stephenabm 3 months ago
Government. Apologies for the mistype!
Keelox100 3 months ago
In a Constitutional Democracy a lynch mob catches up to a man and wants to hang him, but can't because it's against the law and if they do they'll all be tried on murder charges.
In a Republic the Lynch Mob catches up to a man and wants to hang him, and a politician promises to hang him for your vote, then pardons him for a bribe, then sends some other guy to the electric chair on weak evidence because he's too busy to hear the case.
And there's no contradiction between Republic and Oligarchy.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades there is no contradiction if the country has a populace with integrity and character. But then you have to ask....where do we get these virtues?
answertous 2 months ago
My favorite part is when he talks about Lenin taking complete control of Russia. The guy is wrong on so many things in so many ways, but when he said that I about died laughing. Americans will believe any bullshit they're spoon fed if it reinforces their preconceived notions, that's why the world thinks you're stupid, but this dumbass doesn't even know who Lenin was, and Soviet Russia was a slap in the face to Lenin, it was only soviet in name and betrayed it's promise to the workers.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
Don't Tread on America!
ajsaccount1991 3 months ago
At 7:54 Samuel Adams kind of looks like Bill O'Reilly.
Nervousification 3 months ago
113 Oligarchs don't like this excellent video.
agamemnon960 3 months ago
@agamemnon960 This video is full of errors and inaccuracies and is made by a man who doesn't know what socialism is, doesn't know shit about Roman history, fails to account for forms of democracy with rule of law, doesn't know who Lenin was (Lenin took absolute power? Srsly? When did that happen? What year plz tell me), and presents a false dichotomy between republic and oligarchy when the two are completely compatible and the most common form of republic is oligarchical republic.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
9:00 and after - describes so accurately what's happening to us right now.
eccentrikchild 3 months ago
@eccentrikchild that was exactly what I was thinking.
VoiceOfTruth23 3 months ago
The oligarch of today can be an average citizen with no official position, yet he has the power to influence the masses by tools like the printing press or the internet.A good example is the global warming scam, politicians have no other choice then following the brainwashed public in order to be elected.And that's the crux of the matter, democracy is NOT a voting system it's a process taking centuries to evolve, since it requires an educated and cautiously skeptical society.
4werr0n3 3 months ago
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mujerado 3 months ago
The first four kings of Rome after Romulus beginning with Numa Pompilius were constitutional monarchs who were elected to power democratically from a electoral college but governed for life within the bounds of a social contract,The King served the role of commander-in-chief, Chief priest, chief magistrate & legislator ect.. much like the later emperors, Unlike the imperial era they could not designate an heir or enact legislation without the rubber stamp of the two legislative branches .
Obasiliasfilosofos 3 months ago
The first four kings of Rome after Romulus beginning with Numa Pompilius were constitutional monarchs who were elected to power democratically from a electoral college but governed for life within the bounds of a social contract,The King served the role of commander-in-chief, Chief priest, chief magistrate & legislator ect.. much like the later emperors, Unlike the imperial era they could not designate an heir or enact legislation without the rubber stamp of the two legislative branches .
Obasiliasfilosofos 3 months ago
The roman republic was always an oligarchy since it was established by the pre-existing nobility that codified their privilege political status into law, While the plebeian freemen were given the right of representation & could vote on the passage of legislation in the curiae they were not eligible to run for high office or command an army without either being born into a patrician family or the lower tier aristocratic rank of equestrian.
Obasiliasfilosofos 3 months ago
trying to pin down different political ideologies under the black & white paradigm of left or right is foolish, It assumes everything falls under the dualism of black & white, These labels just serve the purpose of political mud flinging & appeals to popular ignorance.
Obasiliasfilosofos 3 months ago
"Those who label Nazism and Fascism as Right Wing never define their Terms" they Define them base don how how the Neo-Nons have changed Conservatism. Today the average dolt first and foremost thinks of "Right Wing" as synonym for "Relgious Right" which Hitler and Mussolini did indeed use the Church.
Corporatism is the word that should really define all those Far left Governments.
JaredThaJa 3 months ago
@JaredThaJa Man you are so off the mark it's insane. I'll be coming up with a response video to this drivel soon WITH facts.
thenoorys 3 months ago
@thenoorys No it's not, it is right on you nut job. What public school did you go to? How in what way shape or form does him saying that our country was founded as a republic and the words democracy never appear in the dec of independence, or the constitution??? That is nothing but 100% TRUE you fool...
Constitutionalist100 3 months ago
exactly whats happening right now in the us... 9:00
satankilledbarbie666 3 months ago
@FriLLox You haven't listened to the complete sentences around those words. Lenin and Hitler and the Ayatollah Khomainei and Castro created chaos, where the people demanded someone step forwards and prevent anarchy being established. I hope that clarifies the matter.
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selfruleuk 4 months ago
Very nice video. I enjoyed this. Thank you for this video. Good job!
Dikotomii 4 months ago
True Monarchy doesn't really exist, but not all "Monarchies" have been Oligarchies in disuse, Ancient Israel and even very early Rome where basically Constitutional Monarchies, being in effect Republics, where the "King" didn't really have much more Power then our President is supposed to have. Modern England pretends to be such a system of course, but like here the Oligarchs have taken over.
JaredThaJa 4 months ago
I was told by someone in the know that communism was considered a utoptian state of the world when all countries participated in the same socilalist system. This individual is Russian. They blamed the U.S. for not being able to achieve communism because we were selfish.
When they recommended a more agressive solution they were told that the population was equipped to repel a standing force. Until the equipment was removed it would not be possible.
1guyiknow 4 months ago
change ROMAN to AMERICAN and you see were the US is at now.
ugotpimp 4 months ago
@ugotpimp YUP....
1984CRG 4 months ago
eh most of the video is good but you got some history wrong
thatdutchguy420 4 months ago
Very neat video. Too bad it's complete nonsense.
AngeCord 4 months ago
Interesting video. The sad part is though, the only ones who will watch such a video are those who actually know that "without law there is no freedom".
nashvillegrl2384 4 months ago
Interesting video. The sad part is though, the only ones who will watch such a video are those who actually know that "without law there is no freedom".
nashvillegrl2384 4 months ago
Cool vid. Although the political spectrum is actually a circle rather than a continuum. Fascists claim that Facism is corporatism. Government departments were headed by industrialists instead of ministers/secretaries. Under communism (as practiced) industry was run by government depts. So both extremes are actually similar. Of course, from the citizen's view, what's the difference?
An oligarchy by any other name...
GeneralGrove 4 months ago
Communism is stateless.
Squirtleforpresident 4 months ago
@Squirtleforpresident well your right on pure communism but that doesn't work in modern civilization.
cookiesofamerica 4 months ago
@cookiesofamerica
No communist system has a state.
As for communism not working in modern civilization, it most certainly does. Even now there are small examples of it working all over the world. The difference between anarchists and communists is that communists realise the need of a transitional society before you can achieve statelessness and classlessness. This transitional society is called socialism. It can be statist or it can be a workers' state, depending on what you want.
Squirtleforpresident 4 months ago
@Squirtleforpresident You're talking about Russian communism in your second sentence. for your last paragraph the person was talking about that anarchism (idk about pure communism) is a transitional state when power changes to an oligarchy or a constitutional republic
cookiesofamerica 4 months ago
@cookiesofamerica
"Russian communism" - what? Communism is communism. It is stateless regardless of what kind of communism it is. Socialism is the only communist-esque system that can have a state. "Anarchism is a transitional state when power changes to an oligarchy" - what the fuck?
Squirtleforpresident 4 months ago
@Squirtleforpresident Russian communism is an imperfect state of communism aka extreme socialism it's just a term I use nothing more and I was only repeating the statement that this person said even though I disagree with him as well.
cookiesofamerica 4 months ago
@cookiesofamerica
It's a faulty term then, because communism is stateless. Socialists want communism, communism isn't extreme socialism, the soviet union wasn't ultra-socialist or extreme-socialist, and it's even debatable if it was socialist at all. Otherwise North Korea would be democratic too. Just because an entity claims to be one of ideology x doesn't mean it is.
Squirtleforpresident 4 months ago
@cookiesofamerica Actually, the family unit is communism. If your father didn't charge you at a profit for the food he fed you when you were young then he was a communist. Sorry this video is bullshit. And the heritage society has a long "heritage" of trying to rewrite history to fit fascism into the left wing. When actually the real difference between leftwing and rightwing is conservatism and liberalism. Conservatism is protectionist and includes thing like nationalism and statism
thenoorys 3 months ago
so where does the 'Peoples Republic of China' fit into? or does it have 2 strands of politcal systems?
marcellin20a 4 months ago
@marcellin20a Oligarchy, the communist party, the high officials rule the country, but they do a good job so far, crimi punished quickly and swiftly, an economy that scares the living shit out of the occident and an army that can conquer Asia within months. They just need better health system in the countryside and some job refulatory laws. Give them that and i'd move there.
haghaghaghaag 4 months ago
Last, and probably your flawed argument that the Roman Empire collapsed because of the introduction of social welfare systems. More research required here. Consider this; social welfare is a way of maintaing the status quo by placating the poor by giving them just enough to survive. Without social welfare, crime rates would go up and there would be a greater degree of anarchy within society. Social welfare not only serves the intererets of the poor, it also serves the interests of the wealthy.
123arry321 4 months ago
False dichotomy present here. Democracy (at least on some level) does exist within America. It is misleading to suggest America is in no way democratic. Look into the separation of powers. You argue the law is what keeps people safe. However you fail to mention the government makes the law... the government is elected by the people... the constitution is changed by the vote of the people... there's your democractic system. A fundamental part of the American system.
123arry321 4 months ago
The fall of the Roman Republic sounds exactly the same as the events happening right now in the States.
Music63035 4 months ago
When you add an economic dimension to the political ideologies axis, the Nazis come out more right than left, because they didn't control the economy (in fact big business did better under the third reich than Weimar) and prioritised nationalist//law and order policies that are more the preserve of the political right than the left. You also fail to stipulate how government representatives should be chosen in your 'Republic'. It would have to be democractic to avoid degenration into oligarchy.
TheAlfonz69 4 months ago
Republic == governed and owned by rich land and slave owning white people
Democracy == a representative government elected by the majority
TheTokkin 4 months ago
@TheTokkin Democracy == form of government where 51% of the people can determine the fate of the other 49%
RestAssuredDrummer 4 months ago 9
@RestAssuredDrummer Nonsense. Lets take historical example: women -- more than 49 % of the population -- were unable to own property and disfranchised when the US was less democratic. When the democratic institutions were enhanced, the state of minorities and women improved. The true threat to society is not the rule of majority, but the concentration of power and wealth in the hands of a narrow minority.
TheTokkin 4 months ago
Good video thanks for clarifying much of the distortion of political systems. Im interested to know why comunism or socialism are not touched upon, is it because they are primarily economic systems rather than political ones?
sid8980 4 months ago
- Muslims have their own Law. which is known as the "Sharia"
- The Laws are in the religious book - Quran
- The Enforcer is the Caliph (A leader, elected by a Shoora (Electing committee of the Muslims))
Muslims who resort to Anarchy are misguided and mostly confused due to the oppression by other countries and communities.
Mspeedracer 4 months ago
Thank you so much. This helped a lot.
super1commenter 4 months ago
@94MCtryland "Capitalism" causes it? You mean like the anti-free trade isolationists, who tend to be Liberals, who don't want us spending money else where in the world? Being anti-outsourcing is anti-third world jobs. And the countries these starving people are from, how "Capitalistic" are they really? India or China might care about money, but they aren't free markets or free people. Please find an example where true poverty (not the iPod poverty of America) is in a place where people are free.
worldofdraculas 5 months ago
The political spectrum is NOT two dimensional. A correct political spectrum like this video tries to show is three dimensional. Left and right being based on how the people in the society work together often through a economical system, like it traditionally is. Then you have basicly an up and down which explains how much power the state has. In this spectrum Statist sosialism will be on the top left. Facism will be on the top right, anarcho-communism will be on the bottom left and so on
Mewfan 5 months ago
Lol this was kinda helpful. I might actually pass my test tomarrow. =]
RaspberryTea11 5 months ago
I thank you for this video. I feel like such an idiot that years ago I always thought the U.S. was a Democracy.
GOllumboy101 5 months ago
To end... democracy and republic are not on the same level.
Republic - Monarchy
Dictatorship - Democracy - Anarchy
about the oligarchy, yes it is the rule of a few... but im not sure its the way you put it... I was tought for example that in ancient greece. while Athenes was a democracy, Sparta was an Oligarchy, that was ruled by a small council of elders. Not by a king with secret helpers in the back. (Not saying that sparta had no king)
Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
last comment =D, about anarchy... im not sure if its the one you reffer to... but there are quite a few kinds. The one that the rioters defend is usually whats considered sindical anarchy. Its proposition is that of eliminating any mayor goverment and letting the people organise themselfs in small comunitys that would latter interact with other communities. At least I think thats it... Spain had a lot of anarchyst during the end of the XIX and begining of the XX centuries, thats wy I know.
Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
I am spanish, and in Spain their is still a royal house just like in the UK. Spain and the UK are at the same time democracys and monarquies although the royal house doesnt have a complete power in the goverment it still has some. However, the USA has no king, and therefore is a republic and a democracy. Stalins rusia and Hitlers germany were republics and dictatorships, although one was a left-right dictatorship and the other was a right-side dictatorship.
Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
And about the democracy and republic terms... the way Ive been thought it. One thing has absolutly nothing to do with the other. A republic is SIMPLY AND ONLY the counterpart to a monarqy, that means a republic is any country without a royal house, Hitlers germany was a republic, Stalins rusia was a republic, France is currently a republic since their royal house (im not sure its still alive) has no power at all in the goverment. However, Churchil´s UK was NOT a republic with Isabel II as queen.
Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
I am sorry to say this is totally messed up... this is defanetly not the way the meanings of democracy, republic, anarchy and other words where tought to me. First of all, fascism is places in the far-right and communism in the far-left while democracy is in the center not because of the form of goverment but by the main ideas that move those type of movements. Democracy is in the middle because it has parts of both, the less radical parts of course.
Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
@Gabri27SZ I like how everything you said confused the shit out of me and everything the video said made perfect sense. I can't listen to jargon.. the ideas you presented are the same ideas the media presents.. its mind-numbing. You started off your rant with what the video was trying to clear up.. Left and Right is not based on ideas, but on government involvement. The instant you looked at it as an idea... you lost me and probably everyone else. It's all about perspective.
jonjon1189 5 months ago
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Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
@jonjon1189 According to you Stalins, Hitlers, Musolinis, Castros, Salazars, Francos, and all other dictatorships are the same becouse they absorb all the power into one person or a very few??? Sorry but no, left and right IS ALL about ideas. Im sorry i wasnt able to explain it better. However if there is anything in particular you dont understand I would be glad to expain it to you. Not becouse something is easier to understand is that thing correct, like I said, this video mixes concepts.
Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
@Gabri27SZ I never said they were all the same, but they do all have extreme government intervention. Let's take Hitler vs. Stalin. Both were dictators and both were trying to help the people, but one was trying to empower the people through the state and the other was trying to empower the people directly. Two different philosophies, yet two very similar powers. According to you there isn't just a left and right wing.. there is an up, down, left, right, upside-down, AND inside-out wing.
jonjon1189 5 months ago
@Gabri27SZ You were taught the European models that are still farther left than the American model that broke the mold. All the ones to the left of the center have someone ruling the people. In our country, we rule ourselves through people who we elect to represent us, not to rule us. Even President Obama represents us (whether some like it or not), he does not rule us. Even the media says "rule" but that is not correct. This is why these videos are being made, to shake up the education system!
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 thats getting a bit out of the subject of what I was discussing at first (which is merely the concepts of theses words). However if you bealive that becouse your goverment does not influence your daily life as much as ours do, you are freer, you are not only wrong but also a fool. The freedom you posses is only yours becouse your goverment ALLOWS you to have it. It seems to me you have been tought the American model, where your goverment gives you this ilusion you call freedom.
Gabri27SZ 5 months ago
@Gabri27SZ Hey, I totally agree with you and that is what the issue is. People do not know what were were when we were founded and they have given up all those rights for The Great Society. At least that is how I have seen it evolve in my lifetime. From the other perspective, the freedom that we possess is only because the government has not taken it away yet! But I think that is the road we are on (you know that car Obama is driving now that he took the keys from GOP) No, I do see the diff. Thx
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
Law exists in anarchy and also law enforcement, just the goverment doesnt monopolise it.
BirgirZ 5 months ago
But how and who set the laws in a republic system?
a republic system can always end up with bad laws?
LebaneseNostalgia 5 months ago
Well, this could have saved me four years of college learning Political Science! More than head knowledge, however, I think that it takes years of wisdom to understand the application in our own society. Yesterday someone was equating Right Wing with Nazis. I was offended because my father fought against them in WWII. His brother was killed. No one in our family is in any sense Nazi, althoug we are conservatives. Now that I'm gray I comprehend that no matter the label, the Results are the same.
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE..... PERIOD. YOU UNEDUCATED ZOMBIE SOCIALISTS!!!!
JonNewland442 5 months ago
Great video a brilliant explanation on the role of governments in history
suspicious35 5 months ago
right-wing propaganda.........
democracy and republic go hand in hand. they're not separate.
reactionaries, i swear..
michaelwuzthere 5 months ago
@michaelwuzthere They are "hand in hand" because we do elect our representatives, but they represent us they do not rule* us. However, we are losing the balance between the two. Too bad we don't learn "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" in school because we have history repeating itself. What is "separate" is the results and that is what people are too complacent to appreciate. People had to fight for their rights--not that they did not have them, but that the *Representatives* denied them.
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 the Roman Empire fell because democracy was abandoned completely and a one man dictatorship under an emperor took its place. Kind of like what happened under the Bush administration. This propaganda film advocates for that very concept - eliminating any traces of democracy and giving all the power to an unaccountable non-representing "representative" government.
michaelwuzthere 5 months ago
@michaelwuzthere Actually, this video is not advocating any particular system. It is just an explanation of the differences between them, using the American system as a way of explaining republicanism. But you being a communist, you will naturally think there is a hidden agenda. All I will say is Animal Farm. "we are all equal, but some are more equal than others"
And the Roman empire fell for a number of reasons, not just because it was ruled from a small city, in a small mediterranean country,
nomoreliblabcon 5 months ago
@michaelwuzthere Furthermore, what is the EU, but an unelected dictatorship in waiting, based on the flawed and failed soviet communist model.
You are talking out of your arse, with not a jot of historical knowledge. A typical communist you are, with only simplistic, idealistic views.
nomoreliblabcon 5 months ago
informative
x0acake 5 months ago
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thats the most retarded movie i've ever seen... FAIL
aliveTerraN 6 months ago
@aliveTerraN Say's the man who spends his days flicking himself off to video games. FAILure!!
nomoreliblabcon 5 months ago 7
@nomoreliblabcon he said it's retarded because it's full of factual errors, false dichotomies, misrepresentations of systems of government, inaccurate history, I mean for fucks sake man can you please tell me when Lenin took total control of Russia because I'd really like to know what year that was, Lenin was an activist he never took control over anything and Russia not only shat all over his ideology they shat all over the worker and called themselves socialist when they did it.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
Constitutional monarchy?
donmont10 6 months ago
@donmont10 Constitutional Monarchy moves from Total Govt to Oligarchy. The difference between a Monarch and a Dictator is behavior. Queen Elizabeth's ancestors once had 100% authoritarian rule. Treason was a crime against the Crown, not the State. Their history had many dictators, hence the Magna Carta giving the people rights. In her coronation speech, E2 vowed "to serve the People"-so diff the perception of even this US Pres or Congress who think that they "rule" us. We may fall like ROME did.
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 I do believe the US will fall, but still, In a Constitutional monarchy a Monarch has very little political powers, and Queen Elizabeth doesnt even like getting involved in Politics...
donmont10 5 months ago
To prevent such horrific things from happening vote Dr Ron Paul 2012
Tellinhowitis121 6 months ago 16
@Tellinhowitis121 Doesn't Ron Paul believe no seperation between church and state?
RaffikaSky 4 months ago
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"Doesn't Ron Paul believe no seperation between church and state?"
Incorrect.
Ron Paul believes in "natural rights" as opposed to "positive rights", a purely legal argument.
He doesn't believe the state can tell anyone what to do or believe.
The "church" was, originally as mentioned, the C.O.E.
CRAPCANNONS 4 months ago
@Tellinhowitis121 :3 I have a question. Why is Ron Paul the only other option we're told we have? Why the media black out of any other third party that isn't a novelty act?
No disrespect to Dr Ron Paul, but he is a wall street business tycoon who's made millions in gold bond investments, and he doesn't believe in worker's entitlements and wants to get rid of the income tax and replace it with a flat tax which would effectively raise taxes on the worker and give the rich a tax break.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Tellinhowitis121 I think the media blackout of alternatives like Stewart Alexander is telling, they even cancel events if they know it will give him a platform to speak. Right now more than anything we need to support the working class and give them the power to generate wealth, we need to get rid of the restraining property laws that prevent collective ownership of companies so that workers unions can start and run their own work place. Corporations can collectively own it why not the workers?
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades I cannot deny that it does seem ron paul is the only choice purely because of his reputability. As for the flat tax question, we will know what everyone pays. A rich banker (no pun intended) and I want to buy a house for 10 million dollars and we have a 10 percent flat tax. He gets charged an extra million if really wants the house. Now compare that to a house only costing 100,000 and you will see why this tax doesn't really favor anyone and seems to work out for everyone
Tellinhowitis121 3 months ago
@Tellinhowitis121 It is unfortunate that there are so many loop holes and our tax system needs a lot of cleaning up, but as it stands a flat tax would increase taxation on the working class (like me) and lower taxes on the business elites (including millionaires like Ron Paul), so a flat tax is not in the interest of the worker. Cleaning up the tax code and simplifying it definitely is, but a flat tax isn't.
A question I ask is why only millionaires are allowed to represent the working class.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades BINGO, look into who and what the GOVERMENT is, and you'll have the answers in your face ''GOVERMENT'' From the Latin ''Gubernare -> control, govern, restrain, rule'' - Also Latin word for ''Mente'' is MIND. So full trainslation. ''Controle or Rule of the Mind=Goverment'' they're not even hiding it. People are to brainwashed to even see it. Education doesn't cure, it just informs! Words can be used to manipulate rather then inform. People need to wake up! NOW!
Keelox100 3 months ago
@Keelox100 We need a worker's democracy. The workers create a nations wealth, they're the ones who make a nation a super power, they're the ones grinding their blood sweat and tears into it's soil, and often spilling it abroad. And what do we have? A system in which private owners may as well say "Come work for me for a minimum wage while I reap all the benefits of your labor, and treat you like a disposable commodity" and then politicians take their voice away and represent the business elite
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades You have missed the entire point of this video. The private owners make more of the wealth, but the workers at minimum also improve more than if they had no job.
sthomaslewis 3 months ago
@sthomaslewis And if the workers own the work place and take home earnings representative of their share in the company and their contributions as labor, they'd be far better off than in this top down business monarchy in which one person is allowed to monopolize the work place and exploit labor by taking a disproportionate share of their income and giving them only a small share of their labor value back as an hourly wage while treating them as a disposable commodity.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Keelox100 And they won't even allow the workers to band together and form a cooperative, they even try to take away their right to unionize, and do everything in their power to vilify the unions and undermine and discredit them and take away what little collective power they have. Why are the business elites so afraid of allowing workers to form workers cooperatives? Because they know the unions will flock to them and out compete them all, the capitalists, the corporatists, they would lose.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
bullshit
alihammadshah 6 months ago
@alihammadshah Yes, you are full of it, and you probably smell of it too.
nomoreliblabcon 6 months ago 2
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"bullshit"
What a through and full argument as to why this video is wrong. You really owned this video and disproved everything in it.
In no way are you a shit talking moron with shit for brains.
evillutionskate 6 months ago
@evillutionskate I am inclined to agree, suprisingly.
nomoreliblabcon 6 months ago
@nomoreliblabcon You could have put the entire section on Rome and translate it to America and it would all still make total sense.
ThatHaloGuy117 6 months ago 2
@ThatHaloGuy117 Corporations did not exist in Rome.
valflyinf 6 months ago
@valflyinf Corporations did not exist-but the concept of free enterprise and keeping what you earn DID. That was very clear. And why should not a person keep what he makes, say growing your own food, milk and eggs from your animals, furniture you make? Our economic system has evolved so that we can buy those goods rather than making them ourselves. Most would not survive! A corporation is just a group that got together to do it for a larger population. That's why 3rd World doesn't have them.
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
@Heatherbloom75 ummm taxes paid to ceasar?
Benjamin42079 5 months ago
@Benjamin42079 What about Caesar? I haven't studied Rome history only to know it wasn't built in a day, that it fell for the reasons mentioned in video. Since then I learned as a republic, they GAVE UP their FREEDOM to a dictator which is what I know from the Bible. So if you are saying that we should "render unto Caesar" as oft quoted--We are not Roman subjects or citizens, We The People are Americans. We should pay our taxes, but not to RULERS. Our Gov REPRESENTS us. Did that answer your ques?
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
90 slaves detected
gauravzerogravity 7 months ago
@gauravzerogravity YES-BUT they got FREED because they have RIGHTS in a Republic not in those various other "regimes". Even in anarchy, the citizen becomes a slave or a prisoner in their own home if they are afraid or it's too dangerous to go out. People have "inalienable rights" and that includes self governing which tacitly implies Freedom. That is what the Founder's fought for, and even though some were slave owners, they also freed them long before the Civil War came. But SELF must be GOOD.
Heatherbloom75 5 months ago
good shit my friend...
ambagoli21 7 months ago
nice explanation but funny opinion about reality...i like Americans but the US gov is fucking us ..from american indian to modern wars and the global govern the do...this is terrible...and this video is trying to make us believe the Republicanism is the best type of goverment...that's relly funny cause America has Oligarchy as most places in the word...they sacrifice freedom for any funny reasons in the word and kill people if they think they are harming their country...
Andy0n7 7 months ago
@Andy0n7 governments dont fuck people... people fuck people. guns dont kill people, people kill people. dont think that not having a gun is going to stop someone from trying to kill somebody. stupid government isnt the problem, stupid people who allow other stupid people in government are the problem. you cant change the government to fix the people, you have to change the people to fix the government.
ambagoli21 7 months ago 3
@ambagoli21 right opinion generally and i wish i agree but what happens if gov control (i mean guide and abet us) and make us weak to redirect the attack of them...i wish people could defense and make a real DEMOCRACY...i really dont know what to wish as when rely on people they always think of their personal interest as govs do...i wish i can change the word but...
"you start trying to change the world and you downstream changing channels..."
if you have a way of CHANGING THE WORLD...tell me
Andy0n7 7 months ago
@Andy0n7 stop liberalism. democracy is not the answer. democracy is the problem, because the masses are uneducated. we cannot trust the masses, because the masses are the problem. a righteous and educated few who know what is right must do what they can using whatever methods they can. we need to change the world, adolf hitler style, and i'm not joking. we have the manpower and the will necessary to make the necessary changes, the problem is much has been done to keep the righteous silent.
ambagoli21 7 months ago
@Andy0n7 we need to stop condemning nationalism and fascism. multicultural nonsense, liberalism, and communism is the problem. fascism is the answer to our problems. historically speaking, fascism (the belief that nations and their respective peoples have a right to assert their own existence) is the only thing that has ever brought progress in humanity. look at africa for instance. it was european nationalism which made it possible to organize men to civilize and colonize that god forsaken zoo.
ambagoli21 7 months ago
@Andy0n7 so long as we condemn our patriots for wanting to defend their own homeland for their own peoples, no homeland shall be safe. DOWN WITH COMMUNISM! DOWN WITH LIBERALISM! DOWN WITH STUPIDITY! UP WITH EUGENICS! UP WITH A SCIENTIFIC SOCIETY FOR THOSE WHO CREATED IT AND THOSE WHO ARE WORTHY!!! support your local patriots, that is all you can do. dont listen to people who say we need to be kind to others... FUCK THAT. they need to pick themselves up and crawl out of their caves just like us.
ambagoli21 7 months ago 2
@Andy0n7 the problem is not in your government, but in your meek stupid liberal comrades.
ambagoli21 7 months ago
@Andy0n7 read everything in reverse from bottom to top.
ambagoli21 7 months ago
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read everything in reverse from bottom to top.
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".government the fix to people the change to have you, people the fix to government the change cant you. problem the are government in people stupid other allow who people stupid, problem the isnt government stupid. somebody kill to trying from someone stop to going is gun a having not that think dont. people kill people, people kill dont guns. people fuck people...people fuck dont governments"
i dont understand much... :-D :-D
Andy0n7 7 months ago
@Andy0n7 sorry its frustrating typing only 150 or so odd characters at a time. can't fit an entire idea without splicing it up and it makes for retarded statements sometimes and i dont care to fix em.
ambagoli21 6 months ago
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ambagoli21 6 months ago
@Andy0n7 what i meant was read my posts in reverse order, because my oldest ones are on the bottom and newest ones are on the top.
ambagoli21 6 months ago
Government, is essentially just people getting together and decided what not to do, and what to do. It's an advanced form of co-operation. The future is in a scientifically educated society, where everyone is an enforcer and tries to look after everyone else. Everyone governs themselves, and decisions are arrived at.
darrinEH 7 months ago
The only true governing force is nature, and so far we are breaking it's laws. Not enforced by police, but instead by natural consequences that is driving our species to extinction.
We need to look beyond this "box" of governments and start something different. We need a smarter, more up-to-date social system where people actually have knowledge in how to solve social problems. A law is just patchwork for societies that don't know how to solve such an issue.
S0up3rD0up3r 7 months ago
@S0up3rD0up3r hippie
cwatasut 7 months ago
@S0up3rD0up3r well, we're gonna need to kill a lot of stupids arent we?
ambagoli21 7 months ago
Very informative video. That's why we need Ron Paul in the White House! He is for getting back to the Constitution.