Mahler: Symphony No. 7 / Haitink · Berliner Philharmoniker

[musicislife2716]

what movement of symphony no. 7 is this?

[BerlinPhil]

@musicislife2716 It is the beginning of the finale.

[SchwarzeDose21]

And so I can't believe it, who else can gear it?

e.G. first trumpet at 0:37 is way under the pitch... berlinphil is so much better, don't like this interpretation..

[musicfreak3109]

I wouldn't mind if I were the 20012 flute in that orchestra!

[hiyetty]

BerlinPhil, is maestro Haitink using the New Critical Edition?

[cpthornman]

That high B by Dohr is just epic. 

[mortalfrog0815]

i just love it!

check out the tennstedt version which is also here on youtube!

[JC5268]

It's good, Stefan Dohr is real great, but the articulation might just as well be a bit sharper. Great performance though, in all sense!

Well this is so much better than Bernstein + Vienna...

[SchwarzeDose21]

Claudio Abbados version is much better sorry, i dont like this.

[danderbass]

Great performance... Will NEVER forget him doing Mahler 9 with Cleveland around 1970... Fantastic and still the orchestra built by Szell. My Dad was bass trombonist then and all players were stunned by his conducting and the orchestra was top notch! I have a bootleg from WCLV radio. Sounds better than the Concertgebouw recording!

[MusicInvestigation]

His 7th took the longest for me to get into and begin appreciating. But this recording automatically, exponentially increased my appreciation for the piece more than listening to my recording multiple times ever did. It's amazing what difference a great recording can make.

[MsEtoile7]

Beautiful, would love to travel to Berlin just for the music

Ms Etoile7

[bochan207]

Is the woman in background having an orgasm @0:12 ? lol

[TheRohBoat]

@bochan207 That's because she IS

[hyeonj315]

@bochan207 who wouldnt orgasm to mahler?

[alan1963]

That part of the final movement 0:43 from Mahler 7th sounded like Wagner's "Der Meistersinger von Nurenberg".

[nikodemus7777]

Schade, dass die Berliner Philharmoniker immer nur kurze Auschnitte zeigen und komplette Videos auf YT gern sperren lassen...

Aber wir haben schon verstanden: Wir sollen mal wieder was kaufen!

Tja, so is das in dieser Welt: Umsonst gibt´s leider nur den Tod, aber nicht Berlins Philharmoniker...

[happywandy457]

HappyWandy457,  here we see "Precise Conducting" at its highest level: All details were worked out at rehearsals, which end up to a reduced expression on stage. But watching our jung Gustavo Dudamel, we see the difference: Soul Expression at his level. Wow! I like this humanised conducting foremost!

Hans Fröhlich - Germany

[EDGJZConglomerate]

Mahler, Haitink, and Berlin.  Three of my favorites!!!

[iter68]

the best orchestra plus the best recording = WOW

[martinusB95]

One of the greatest conductors ever. He lets the musicians on the edge of their seat.

And let you enjoy every second. :)

[robertstracke]

Watch the CSO and Pierre Boulez on Wednesday.October 27,2010. WTTW Chicago and WFMT-FM.  I saw and heard the whole thing live twice - rehearsal and performance. The video says watch the complete performance of the Berliner Phil. but my computer says unavailable. Kiddleliddle

[BerlinPhil]

@robertstracke Thanks for your advice - the broken link should work now.

[zzzzzzzzzz202]

@robertstracke the CSO played wonderfully that night, yeah

[schnozz87]

Rainer Seegers for the win.

[jacobflaschen]

Stefan Dohr is like, "This is my orchestra."

[99galisteo1]

good comments here.just discovering Mahler....i LOVE this vid...i want more!

[martinusB95]

The conductor is so great. He let you enjoy every second.

[gera1262]

is this the Nachtmusik II?

[TheKevinV08]

@gera1262 No it's the beginning of the last movement

[gera1262]

@TheKevinV08 thanks a lot!

[Haeronthegreat]

@gera1262 Nope, Finale.

[thomas4179]

@ gera1262 it's the last movement, it does not look like the music that night ...

[fbain1horn]

the woman in the audience 0:13 - 0:30 directly in the middle seems to be enjoying it a bit much

[musicchick581]

@fbain1horn lol that would be me too if I was there. Especially after spending a year with my 6th grade band. This is angelic in comparison. I'd be in tears. Lol.

[brianleeeelnairb]

@fbain1horn I don't know about you, but I would give anything to see this live. haha

[fbain1horn]

@brianleeeelnairb yeah that would've been so good to sit in the front row..... i just went to the berlin phil's BBC prom the other week, they did mahler 1. it was absolutely insane!

[fbain1horn]

FUCKING HELL stefan dohr!

[duckbarf]

Yes, Herr Dohr is hot. Having studied with some of the best, I can say that. Haitink is a class act. I love that guy. He still has it.

[osumb17]

listen to the first horn =)

[aicos1424katsu]

This is really a "Nachtmusik"

a great version for a great symphony

[kenruneck]

Hmm I prefer to think of it as the soul. THe percussion is more the heart. Gives it a beat. And when they stop the ban can still keep going :) Not so for French Horns. Take them away and the orchestra's got nothing.

[GregHales]

in some ways this is better than the video they made back in 1993 or so...now on DVD.

[951029945766]

nice trumpet

[Dima4702]

Gustav is a great))))))))))))))))))))

[JLwaldhorn]

Nice horns!

[balletcomposer]

Yay Haitink! He is fantastic!!

[MundaneRaptor]

Few things can move emotion like the power of a full orchestra once everything's been polished and perfected. The soul quakes...

[Finners1551]

stefan dohr i love you

[paxmanhorn20]

He is the best around today!!!! Wouldnt you agree?

[medmai]

Wann wird Daniele Gatti nach Berlin eingeladen um Mahler zu dirigieren?

[ThaSchwab]

1:32 is possibly the first time I've ever heard no wrong notes in the trumpet section.

[GMahlerVerehrer]

@ThaSchwab

Then you haven't heard this yet. ;)

watch?v=SpWDHYGPxDc

[ThaSchwab]

Did you upload that video for me? Lol. What recording is that?

[GMahlerVerehrer]

Yes, I did. ;)

It is the recording with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Sir Simon Rattle; recorded on May 11, 1995.

[ThaSchwab]

Figures, Sir Simon is one of my favorites.

[blechmusik]

@GMahlerVerehrer: Ja wer hat denn da am Regler gedreht? Bruel&Kjaer-Microphones with diffuse-field capsules + equalizer. Simply too much.

[GMahlerVerehrer]

@blechmusik

Wenn du mich schon adressierst, solltest du in Worten zu mir reden, die ich verstehe.

[musicchick581]

@ThaSchwab no way! really? Ugh this is my favorite group..I hope not! :o(

[ThaSchwab]

@musicchick581

What? What I said was a good thing. :)

[musicchick581]

@ThaSchwab I know I was saying that I hope they dont make mistakes cause they're my favorite :o)

[foodmore]

@ThaSchwab You can listen to solti with the CSO. They play so much better.

[jsteuernol]

@ThaSchwab

Listen to better recordings, that's all I have to say. I've heard 5 different recordings of this and they're all clean.

[ThaSchwab]

@jsteuernol

I actually only own one recording, by the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra, which happens to be clean at that point (though I heard them play this live a month ago and they were a lot better). I usually rely on YouTube for my "recordings," because I can find a lot on here that most would find on iTunes first. I also tuned in for the CSO performance with Boulez that the other commenter mentioned.

[jsteuernol]

@ThaSchwab

CSO with Abbado is very good. The recording of Vienna with Bernstein conducting on youtube here is also quite decent, check it out.

[ThaSchwab]

@jsteuernol

I don't really care for the older videos like that. The instruments themselves sound horrible.

[bugleboy499]

@ThaSchwab too bad they arent in tune :( first one's in tune, second one is flat, third is sharp.

[fbain1horn]

@bugleboy499 bullshit

[SchwarzeDose21]

@bugleboy499 you're RIGHT. I love the Berlin Phil but I have to say, that I don't like the trumpet sound in this video. The sound doesn't fots to the Rest of the Orchestra I think if all three would play trumpets in B, it'd be a lot better-... in my opinion of course

[ArturoAlejandroS]

I love this movement.Pure genius of Mahler.

[osumb17]

I have seen mahler 7 about 3 or 4 times. All with different conductors all with different orchestras. "shit american orchestra" you say I went to see the mahler cycle at carnegi hall this past may. #3 and #7 you wana talk about shit I was falling alseep, my friend said they were booing at #5. I have seen the nyphil perform just about every Mahler but #4 I would say they give BPO a run for the money if not better.

[MarkoKassenaar]

I agree that you miss a certain kind of white hot excitement, but it is a matter of Haitink's interpretation: the glow is in the sound and the balance. With Haitink, his Mahler-interpretations are getting deeper and deeper, and not so much extraverted. His Beethoven however seems to be very rythmic and 'youthful'.

[Sinfoniette]

Please tell me how his interpretations are getting deeper. For me, the peak was at the 3rd but never got better.

[MarkoKassenaar]

In my humble opinion: Totally focussed on sound, warmth and breath. Second of all, slower and more eye for detail. I agree that it sometimes gets too slow (the Adagietto of the 5th takes almost 14 minutes), but I mentioned "deeper" as a juxtaposition to flashy and loud.

[Sinfoniette]

Mahler wrote THE loudest symphonies ever, (and also the quietest). You need a conductor who can do both of them, but i personally think Haitink only does better in the quiter parts, a bit more suiting him to the more lyrical movements.

[MarkoKassenaar]

Yes, I agree. His 4th is phenomenal. But then...you must also agree that the 3rd is a bit on the slow side (1st movt.). By the way: maybe his best performances on Mahler were in the 70's and 80's with the Concertgebouw, the Eurovision Christmas Matinees. You know them? They must be available everywhere.

[karajanhk]

Different conductors have their own way or style of interpretations, if everyone is doing Mahler in Bernstein's way, what is the point of having a conductor?

[karajanhk]

But this BP is one of the finest orchestras in the world...

[Michi090381]

may i kindly ask who you are and what you do to judge that way about the berliner philharmoniker? i mean listen to the trumpets - reminder: this is a live-recording!! tell me a finer live-recording (beside chailly's amsterdam recording)!

[karajanhk]

Yes, I agree the orchestra is restrained here. This is how Haitink deals with Mahler. See his Mahler 6 with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra on youtube.

[WAKeele]

@karajanhk I'm actually fine with the level of the orch--I understand the more restrained nature of European orchestras in general (in comparison to the CSO Bud days that is) & how it's harder to get that certain brilliance on rotaries. I was referring to the lick after figure 228; it physically sounded strained.

As for Mahler 6, thanks for pointing that out. I've been lucky enough to hear the CSO do it on consecutive nights w/ different conductors, so this would be a great comparison for me.

[finnishredder]

Amazing! Great to see maestro Haitink, I've played this piece under his baton as well! :-)

[althen]

01:44 is that Wang Jian at the first row?

[karajanhk]

no, he isn't

[TheKevinV08]

@WAKeele well the lead trumpet has to play an extremely high note in the opening solo ( a C that's2 octaves higher than middle C) the highest note possible on a trumpet. Their embouchure has to be tight beyond tight, and they have to hold it. This is hard enough on a traditional trumpet, and even harder on a rotary trumpet that the Berlin Phil uses. Also, Tamás Velenczei, the lead trumpet playing the solo, has a different embouchure than most players, and has to play it to the side.

[WAKeele]

@TheKevinV08I know the piece well from playing it. A high C concert is NOT "the highest note possible on trumpet". This statement alone nulls any sort of advance you have--not being mean, it's just knowledge based. There are plenty of pieces that demand more--Alpine Symphony & Mahler 8 being quite notable. I also find it no harder to play in the higher register on a rotary than a piston (which doesn't mean it's not harder for others though). Berlin is great. It's not a slam but an observation.

[massimolioy]

bravissimo

[RyaZila24]

amazing, i would have loved to see this live