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  • Enough with feminists and masculinists! Just be HUMANist!

  • Why don't we get rid of the stupid idea of "the war of the sexes" and start treating each other as equal human beings?

  • God damn, some of you people just don't understand generalizations. Just because not all this stuff is true for you doesn't mean it's not true, period.

  • So children aren't people, marriages turn men in to something less than human and Bill Maher is basically a freed black slave hero? This man is fairly ridiculous. He's right that men should have some balls, though. Although fighting stereotypes with stereotypes isn't really helping his case.

  • @definitelyeric I think you missed what he was saying.

  • @definitelyeric "Adults" was the implied meaning when he said "people" obvious kids are humans. The slave reference was a metaphor, comparing two dissimilar things. Google it, marriage reduces male creativity. Except for the last, did you really not understand what he was saying or are you actually resorting to semantics to refute his points?

  • Wait, so children aren't people anymore?

  • Ok.. I'm a woman and there are such things as "mutual fantasies". I never had romantic fantasies about a charming prince,its so stereotypical to say that women are romantic sensitive creatures, its not true, a lot of women love to be dominated in bed and have dirtier fantasies than their men. I agree with the "women are smarter than men thing", only a moron would say such thing. Women are human beings some of them are smart and cultivated, some are dumb and annoying.

  • Although he is stereotyping women a bit, I can agree with everything else.

    Well said Bill.

  • what an asshole

  • i'm a girl but i agree with what he's saying. i think i'm one of the few people who actually believes in proper equal rights. somehow these days equal rights in the western world just means women now have the right to oppress men. if people claim to believe in equal rights then they need to start acting like it. girls, pay for dinner on dates and don't bitch about guys leaving the toilet seat up; and guys, take some paternaty leave when the new baby comes along and do some work around the house.

  • @ADragonAmongRoses I agree with your comments. And it's very much the same in the UK, maybe a little worse. I also think it's going to get worse before it gets better.

  • Children are more important than people?

  • Time for some good, old-fashioned Manarchy!

  • Are people honestly so fucking blind that they think women's rights have gone "too far," to the point where we need a "masculist movement?" Take a look at wage disparity and rape statistics, then then come complain about fucking sitcoms. There's nothing wrong with being a guy. Hell, I'm one too. But have a little respect for the bullshit that women get put through in this society.

  • @NYanarchy08 You're one of the morons who believes in that wage disparity bullshit. If women make less than men for the same job, then why would any business ever employ men if they wanted to make huge profits. Men make more money on average because they work longer hours, they work very dangerous jobs, they take on jobs in Science, Math, Technology and Engineering sector. Women always dispise those jobs as being boring and geeky jobs yet those jobs pay alot more money than being a school teach.

  • @wamnicho I could pull up some stats to prove that you're spouting bullshit, but I have a feeling you wouldn't really listen, and you're also ignoring studies regarding rape and sexism in the workplace. So I guess it's really come down to outdated gender stereotypes vs, well...math. I think we're done here.

  • @NYanarchy08 Answer my question you moron. Why don't businesses hire only women if women get paid less than men?

  • wait wait wait, he thinks Children aren't people? I'm so glad I don't know this guy

  • I am female and I agree with him! :D

  • Cracked brought me here... but I actually agree with almost all of what was said in this video. We need a masculist movement.

  • Let's just analyse that fantasy shit he talked about. If that's true, women fantasise about long-lasting relationships with security, men fantasise about a sexual degredation. Hmm, this man just made it look like women are far more intelligent and evolved human beings himself. See, I'm a man, and this guy is spouting utter bullshit - it's men like this that let the side down. Arsehole.

  • ...sounds like he's never actually experienced a good relationship. Also as far as I know children are people...you don't just change species in your teens.

  • What a dbag...

  • Men think women's fantasy is that some prince charming will come and love them forever. Not true. A women's ACTUAL fantasy is eating without getting fat

  • @milkyway531 That's pathetic.

  • @GrifterZed yeah, well then, what do you think i girls fantasy should be? and btw, that was a joke

  • I think it is hilarious that you libs just found out that your TV hero offends you.

  • @tacobill70 There's NOTHING about this that offends me. Real liberalism, instead of the bullshit you conservatives perpetuate, is about real equality. Not the advancement of one single portion of society to the point of it serving as a retaliatory function for past wrongs. And sure, there are plenty of people that misinterpret the purpose of activism. And then there are people that use it for their own ends and the rest that distort. So, go back to church or something with all "you conservs."

  • I think it is hilarious that you libs just found out that your TV hero offends you.

  • This is what u call a subdued, temper tantrum. A man that bitches and nags

  • NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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  • Wow, I used to really like him. When he's talking about the sex fantasies, clearly he doesn't know the same women I do. He's just coming off as really bitter and hateful here, and it's kind of embarrassing for him. "Women are smarter than men" is chauvinist bullshit, but all that crap he's saying about "sensitivity is more important than facts" being a woman thing is just as much chauvinist shit.

  • @Eyeseelyn

    Agreed. Does he really think women's sexual fantasies involve being rescued by a prince? Lmao.

  • Zionist coprolite.

  • But I do agree that safety is considered more important than fun, and that's wrong :)

    The guy has good points. There are some things he says that make me wanna strangle him, but then I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says too.

    Hmm. On the fence I guess.

  • Also, I think individuality is more important than ever nowadays, while commitment is getting left behind.

  • Men are impressed by shiny objects. Laptops, plasma screens, new cell phones, etc. Yeah, they're not diamonds...but still lol. Idiot.

  • @kmacmuzikmafia27 True, but you can't get a man to go down on you by buying him a cell phone.

  • @88erictolson

    I'm sure it's been done :D

  • I love Bill. Never have I come across someone with such compelling arguments about EVERYTHING, and with the ability to make people laugh their ass off while being thought-provoking at the same time. It’s unfortunate that the most important reasons for feminism in the first place were the last ones to stick, such as equal pay. Feminism in the 21st century has the ability to border on chauvinism towards men rather than the pursuit of equality, which is a damn shame.

  • I'm a woman. I absolutely hate Bill Maher. I think he's a smug, unfunny little irritant. A real douche-nozzle, if you will. Having said that -

    I agree with absolutely everything he said in this video. I've never heard anyone describe the pussyfication of this nation better in my entire life. All you pseudo-fem guys take note. It's a sad day in your life when Bill Maher is more of a man than you.

  • @mokzii Thank you, I'm glad there are girls out there that actually believe in a guy that isn't a complete vagina. I've left so many girls because they tried to "tame" me.

  • @mokzii Ditto, ditto, ditto.

  • @mokzii

    YES!

    High-Five for rational gender stereotype evaluation!

  • Yeah, while all his male friends grew up and realized acting like an idiot is dumb when your 50, Bill whines saying "the womens are taking over!". Maybe men like being married? I agree that sitcoms are moronic, but everybody knows this.

  • "children are more important than people"...

  • @vikiwozeya yeah. this got my attention too

  • fuck this.

  • Follow your own values. Sensitivity is sometimes more important than truth, and the other way around. Individuality is important, but so is commitment. One over the other is an ignorant stance. Knowing WHEN one is over the other is not.

  • @PhelesDragon

    Agreed.

  • @PhelesDragon Please, give me an example where sensitivity is more important than truth? i completly disagree on that.

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  • @Ecocide112 I know an example. A woman is cheating on her husband because he doesn't please her, but she doesn't tell him about her affair because the truth would destroy him.

  • @blueberrylesbian So if your significant other was cheating on you, you wouldent want to know about it?

  • @Ecocide112 I'm not taking sides, but this idea has been going on since greek tragedies. Remember the play Oedipus Rex? Oedipus has killed his father and slept with his mother. Plenty of people warned him to not seek out the truth, but he doesn't listen. Consequently, His mother commits suicide and he banishes himself after tearing out his eyes. Sometimes things are better left unsaid. Sometimes.

  • @Ecocide112

    Gaddafi case for example.

  • This is REAL time with Bill Maher.

  • John cheese is a mangina

  • fucking woman, not happy with the way men are.they spend there time trying to change what we are and when they do they find they no longer want us.i learnt that lesson years ago .loved a girl treated her like a princess ,she kicked me after 6 months for a guy who treated her like shit .next girl i treated like shit and 20 years latter and 3 kids we are best mates, even though i am am an unreasonable tit only ever to her.

  • KIDS ARE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • i am a bit of a feminist but this guy makes great points. except the last one LOL trust me, some woman are pervs like that, not all of us want a prince in a meadow and all that shit.

  • I'm a woman, and I agree. I'm ashamed of it too, that women seem higher up than men, it's not fair at all...although I disagree with no mutual fantasies....me and my boyfriend share rape fantasies, and role play....and we also share loli and shotacon fantasies, and some light beastiality...so he is wrong in that regard. Before anyone calls us pedos, chill out...looking at anime kids/ animals and fapping, and touching children/ animals, are two different things. Besides, rule 34. =P

  • @FFXIWarriorqueen1 SICKFUCK

  • @inechiSAN Hey hey hey, I said we would never actually do that shit, just watch anime stuff online. Um...who doesn't like anime or hentai?? I think whatever fetishes people have is perfectly fine as long as they don't go out and hurt people or animals!

  • @FFXIWarriorqueen1 ITS OK IF ITS DRAWN CHILDREN RAPE?????

  • @inechiSAN They're drawings and no one is getting hurt....

  • @FFXIWarriorqueen1 people whom say that rape child p0rn is a healthy and safe way to stay at home and not raping childrens... their argument falls on its self

    why are you raping childrens?

    you can go to jail..

    you can go to jail

  • Cracked can go smoke some crack

  • He is 100% correct.

  • I'm SO thankful to see ppl agreeing with this rather than just nodding like a pc zombie to John Cheese. I love normally love that guys articles, but that one just made him look like a whipped little bitch.

  • I feel sad for all the people who said "ooh it's so true!", telling the exact opposite of what people usually say is not telling the truth

    and btw that video was full of cliches (women want a prince charming....COME ON!) and just plain stupid! It's not even funy

  • Maher is not an asshole. he's just saying it how it is.

  • I agree that society is being much more lenient towards women, but Bill Maher doesn't have to resort to cliched and stereotypical views towards women to protest this sort of problem. If you have to imply that women all fit the cliche of the scary, intimidating wife who bullies men into doing what they want, then you just make yourself sound like a douche.

  • @cellomashi The man is performing a standup comedy routine, not a public service message. He is presenting ideas in a way that he thinks will make the audience laugh, and he succeeds.

  • @Escarbach That is true. But as an amazing comedian, he doesn't need to stick to stereotypes. I believe he could make this about as entertaining without having to resort to generalizing on half the population.

  • Bill Maher knows you better than you know yourself.

  • Out of all the stupid things Maher believes, like how animals are more important than people, and that vaccines murder people, the crap he said here is only about midway through to his max level of stupidity.

  • Children aren't people? o.0

  • This is true..

  • Fuck you John Cheese, Maher is spot on

  • Saw this a few years ago and just remembered it. Really comes off as more bitchy than it did then.

  • fuck cracked. Not only is this not really offensive to anyone, it's also true

  • 100% truth.

    Cracked writers have a skewed view of reality.

  • the cracked writer doesn't want to live in a doghouse!

  • Wow. You'd almost think men and women are completely different animals the way this guy goes on.

  • surely you cant argue against that the statement 'if women ran the world there would be no wars' is a stupid thing to say

  • @SalvadorePapadello if women ran the world there would be no wars! just a bunch of jealous countries not talking to each other!

  • Bill Maher...you, sir, are quite plainly, and quite painfully, a moron. I'd take the time to actually rip you apart myself, but Cracked's already done that for me. In fact, there's only two things I'm even interested in addressing... "Children are more valuable that PEOPLE?" Uhh...hello, children -are- people, dumbass. They're just little people. Also, no mutual fantasies twixt men and women...this guy LIVES in a fantasy. Or, more accurately, a delusion.

  • @Nateb123 Children don't change their species, do they? Yes, they are people.

  • first of all, i'm sure bill is out there making the most of the single life, getting laid left and right... and secondly, since when do women not like "dirty" or "freaky" things in bed, like being cummed on??? i thought that was pretty tame/standard form?

  • Society feeds both men and women plenty of lies. The difference is, a lot of stupid, male chauvinist bullshit is commonly seen for the stupid bullshit it is. Whereas equally untrue feminist bullshit has been seen as common knowledge for just as long. Sexism needs to be called sexism, no matter which gender uses it against the other. Just because we're finally getting around to attacking stupid FEmale chauvinist bullshit doesn't mean we hate women. It means we hate lies.

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  • that was a very smart reply!

  • @peanutmmss

    Thanks very much! :)

  • @AlexReynard

    "A lot of stupid, male chauvinist bullshit is commonly seen for the stupid bullshit it is"

    No, no it's not. The world runs on stupid male chauvinist bullshit.

  • @psychopomp88 "No, no it's not. The world runs on stupid male chauvinist bullshit. "

    That's not what I meant. What I meant is that, when male chauvinist bullshit happens, it's usually recognized for what it is. It still happens, yes, but we call it what it is. The same kinds of hateful sexism can be committed by feminists (both female and male) and we often don't call it what it is. Sometimes we even applaud it. If we ever want REAL equality, we need to get rid of ALL double standards.

  • @AlexReynard

    Well then I still disagree. I really wish things worked like that but it's clear to me just from looking around the world that chauvinists rule and chavaunistic behavior is rewarded, hardly ever punished or called out.

  • @psychopomp88 it's clear to me...that chauvinists rule and chavaunistic behavior is rewarded, hardly ever punished or called out.

    If that is true, then there's all the more reason why the same behavior shouldn't be tolerated from feminists too. If you excuse EITHER side, then the other one will say, "Well, it's okay for THEM to do it!"

    I'm honestly not sure what I think about Connery. I do however think it's sexist for anyone to think that violence is only unacceptable to one gender.

  • @AlexReynard

    I'm just assuming you got here like I did from Cracked but...if you look at the responses on that article, people overwhelmingly support Sean Connery's line about hitting women. They all pretend like Connery's making a statement about how it should be ok to hit women just like you hit men, but it's pretty obvious that Connery was just being a typical chauvinist who thinks you should hit women to shut them up. And yet hardly any of the comments call it him out.

  • @AlexReynard

    thank you. i gotta remember to repeat what you said the next time a fake feminist tries to chew me out over something trivial.

  • @linux750

    Great! Please do! I love knowing my ideas are useful to others.

    Just be sure to chew out some male sexists occasionally too. ;)

  • @AlexReynard

    i will. I'll even speak to them in the only language they'll respond to: The good old-fashioned shoulder tackle.

  • @AlexReynard you're welcome. your last name (if reynard is your last name) reminds me of the french word for fox!

  • What an ass.

    And for the record, I DO happen to think that pregnant women are sexy. Lots of guys do. It's a real thing. And not all guy's fantasies offend women...

  • @PromusKaa Well then that's called a fetish. Like those sick fucks who are into "water sports".

  • @VictimOfBoredom Well, I'd call it a "preference" or an "affinity," not a "fetish," but even so, Bill Maher is wrong when he claims that nobody thinks that pregnancy is sexy.

  • @PromusKaa Well of course some people think pregnancy is sexy. Some people also think amputees and midgets are sexy. The point is the average guy doesn't think this, and he's not a male chauvinist for thinking as such.

  • @VictimOfBoredom It's just sad that people apparently put pregnancy in the same camp as amputees, midgets, and watersport fetishes. Pregnancy is a normal, natural state for a woman's body to be in - it's not a deviation from what comes naturally, and it's not a deformity like you suggest.

  • @PromusKaa Pissing is a normal part of life, too, and it certainly isn't a deformity, but that doesn't mean we have to consider it sexy.

  • @VictimOfBoredom You're STILL putting pregnancy in the same category as watersports? Pregnancy is a normal physical state - pissing on someone is deviant behavior.

  • @PromusKaa Watersports is an intimate act between two or more people. It is not 'deviant' and is probably one of the oldest sexual and emotional pleasures in human history.

  • Holy shit, this guy is actually right. About everything that he says.

  • "Isn't Dr. House a smart guy? Jack Bauer? The genius guy on Fringe? The other genius guy on Lie to Me? Don Draper?" I don't think most of those shows even existed when this originally aired?

  • @cyberrioter He specifically said Sitcoms.. 24, Mad-men and Fringe are not sitcoms

  • fucked that writer , this guy is awesome. He is a B.R.O.

  • I never used to like this guy, but now I'm starting to really regret that.

  • It was obviously a woman who wrote that cracked article.

  • He wasn't backing up his points at all, it sounds like he was just whining for the sake of pity towards men.

    Sorry, but the amount of male leaders in the world vastly overwhelms the amount of female leaders in the world. He wasn't proving how people have been valuing "feminine qualities" over "male qualities" at all, let alone where he got that rubbish from.

    He isn't backing up what he says and he can't because he was going on a mindless rant.

  • @pizzadragon1122 How do you want him to back it up, genius?

    What he's saying is self-evident.

  • @pizzadragon1122 He doesn't need to back it up, its all true. Everyone knows it, and people with brains are disgusted by it.

  • @wardrums1511 Prove to me how any part of this is true.

    He does need to prove what he is saying, because what he's spewing out is unreliable, saying that this is true is being delusional, there is no proof in what this guy says.

    If a person believes what they hear, when what they hear has no fact or proof in it, they're deluded.

    He cant back up any of his claims, because there is no foundation or truth.

    On the whole people need to stop prejudice and deluded beliefs and accept each other.

  • I now like Bill Maher.

  • Einstein said that masculine logic is the ultimate tool, but feminine intuition is the divine gift. Know your place fellas. Women are your Gods.

  • @AirForceGirl05 saying stuff like this will get the humans with penises angrier, and they will go even more backwards than when humans with vaginas rights were higher in the 80s than it is now because of the conservative backlash.

  • @inechiSAN

    Don't blame me, it's the truth. The best mind of the century even said so.

  • @AirForceGirl05 some man?

  • I like how cracked tried to put this guy up with wife beaters and other racists and disgusting creeps, when Bill Maher is just displaying feminist arguments at that are true for men, "manly values" and principles that seem to be just as viable and his truisms ring all the more true, Cracked has failed in its slandering.

  • John Cheese is a bitch.

  • this is great!!!!

  • Partially true.

  • He started out okay, talking about how people are more concerned with "feeling good" and "being safe" than doing what's right or true, but I wouldn't call those "feminine" values. And then he just launches into a rant that makes no sense.

  • Although I do agree with a lot of the stuff he's saying here, I get the feeling he's never met a nice, patient woman. Does he live in New York, per chance?

  • ...all the problems he says are easily avoidable if you don't have a bitch for a gf/wife. If he has a tough time finding kind women, maybe its because he can only find people like himself. And that goes for all of you

  • John Cheese (the guy who wrote the Cracked article) is an idiot.

  • God he's right. GOD HE'S SO FUCKING RIGHT.

  • Fuck Cracked for bashing Maher. This video has loads of sense.

  • Peanut butter jelly time (because I'm too damn lazy to watch this video)

  • Okay for all you dumbfucks... Hes not saying children aren't people, hes saying that children are considered more important than the GENERAL population, which includes adults and children. I hate how people take the authority of Cracked writers as something so high up; the guy who wrote the article was retarded, except for the Meatloaf one, that was fucking hilarious.

  • Well he's not wrong.

    The John fellow on Cracked is a bit of a moron.

  • I'm thinking that "Richard Cheese" writer on Cracked is a female writer under a pseudonym, caus no truthful man could say they didn't agree wholeheartedly with everything Maher is saying..

  • ussually maher is a unsophisticated little douchebag but this video is quite good! he does make a good decent arguements

    why did crack talk about him being an arsehole yet show up a good video of him?

  • I have no problem with women being treated fairly. I have a problem with women being put up above men. When women demand equal rights, yeah I support that. But when they demand being of a higher caste in society than men? No. Equality is one being treated just as well and also just as bad as the rest of society.

  • Wow. This wasn't funny. There were a couple points that made sense, but for the most part it just sounded like an asshole whining.

  • children aren't people? lol, bill, you so crazy.

  • I fail to see what part of this routine was "sexist". Can someone enlighten me?

  • @davethehostage It's sexist because women don't like it.

  • @TheIncredibleD1701 I'm surprised about the number of commentors who've taken Bill's statements out of context. It seems almost deliberate. I always thought Cracked readers were a little smarter than that.

  • @davethehostage Anything that criticizes women being sexist is sexism.

    Also, anything criticizing black people for being racist is racism, just so you know in advance.

  • You have to respect him for being blunt and unashamed. Also, when he said "Children are more important than people" considering the context, what I think he meant is "Having children is more important than having friends"

  • @TheIncredibleD1701 That's a good point I didn't consider. I thought he probably meant something more along the lines of "children are more important than adults" in the sense of being expected to shield all children everywhere from bad words or titties lest we blow their little brains

  • Seriously, female movement went too far, you cannot criticize inequality without being said anti-women.

    Even more seriously, Bill Maher is awesome comedian.

  • Children will never be more important than PEOPLE!! 

  • Y'know as a woman, I'm a little upset, but a lot of what he said really rings true. I respect him for having the guts to say what he believes.

  • Cracked told me that guy was an asshole, and yet all I can do is agree to this video.

  • @Kerokittycat Yeah I know right?

  • @Kerokittycat Haha, ain't that the truth!

  • @Kerokittycat

    Well then you're a misogynist. We live in a society dominated and dictated by men where women are constantly oppressed and devalued as people and raped every day. To suggest that it's we men who are victims is such bullshit.

    That 114 people (let's be honest: 114 men) agreed with you is telling of what a cesspool Youtube is.

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  • @psychopomp88 In exactly what way are women oppressed and devalued? Cause it seems at this point every woman alive has the opportunity to get an education, a job, and live an independent life. If you lived back in the 1800's you have reasons to bitch an complain about women.

  • @unclesugarrap

    Things have improved drastically and are every day, I'll grant that. But we still have so much more to go until we can even begin to say "Things are becoming equal". Go read about Jamie Leigh Jones, or that woman who was raped by a drunk NYPD officer in broad daylight just last week and you'll see we live in a horrible misogynistic society where rape is acceptable and women fear for their lives every day. Men have nothing to which they can possible compare that treatment

  • @psychopomp88 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. Who in all of fuck is telling you that rape is acceptable?! Do you not know that rapists go to prison for this? Just because there's assholes out there who don't know how to take no for answer.. that doesn't mean that our society is completely misogynistic. Yes, it's messed up. Yes, women are weaker and can't fight it off. But that doesn't mean that society has degraded women.

  • @unclesugarrap

    No one will say "Rape is good" out loud, sure, but there are values deeply ingrained in our society that allow it to happen. Victim blaming, for example, is very prevalent. Ideas like "She was drunk but she totally wanted me!" I'd go on but Youtube doesn't let you say much at a time.

    Basically I just think asserting, as Maher seems to, that we live in a society of feminine values could not be more wrong. I wish we did, quite honestly. That's all I have to say..

  • @unclesugarrap

    Women are weaker and can't fight it off?

    You must be joking. The women rapist assholes pick can't fight it off, because they're the weak ones that fall behind in the pack but try that crap with a majority of women (Not just the petite ones walking in dark alleys like a dumb ass )and prepare to get your ass whooped.

  • @psychopomp88 I am in favor of giving equal rights to both gender. I agree that in some situations this equality is not there yet. But equality doesnt mean that men gets to be treated like stupid turds to "make up" for the ways of the past.

  • @Kerokittycat There can't be enough thumbs up for this comment

  • @Kerokittycat That's because John Cheese is a pussy.

  • This is perhaps one of his worst, if not, the worst comedy bit he's ever done.

  • I don't think Bill Maher understood what that woman meant by "mutual fantasies." He right that only a woman could have said that, though. Only a woman would have the balls to say that, anywhere.