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  • *sigh* why is everything always a conspiracy? If people keep this up polio is going to come back...

  • Amiriliano Your a complete idiot and a disgrace with your biased and poorly presented views. You have nothing! no evidence that has any credibility whatsoever and I will debunk you.

  • @NeilAnthony69 Do you have any evidence to debunk him yet? I am interested in what evidence you find.

  • Great Video I have Aspergers and it annoys the hell out of me when Vaccine is said to cause Autism. I believe all forms of Autism is genetic and passed down from parents. Some people carry the gene some become Autistic because of it. I'm not stating what I think as fact but it is what I personally believe.

  • @RareAspie It is not as simple as genetics. If you get into genetic mutations then I am sure there is a link within genetics, yet what causes genetic mutations? Try not to look at it as 1 problem. Within the body of a person with autism there is more then one biological problem going on and more then one cause.

  • Great Video, keep up the good work.

  • A lot of these governments told us that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction which we now know to be a lie told for their own gain.

    It is no different with vaccines because of the huge amount of cash involved.

    And you are just a lying muppet.

    If you believe vaccines are safe and effective then please post a video of yourself being injected with every vaccine that is available just so that you can prove that you practice what you preach

    Drug companies love idiots like you LOL LOL

  • @cmadog let us not forget what happened w/ the gulf of tonkin & the vietnam war. see when an 'official' lies to us, we go to war. govt & these private companies r not even human & are hardly EVER held accountable. i mean just look @ the US screwing around tryin to "police the world" or look @ the Fed Reserve. Or look @ guantamono or really any pharma company: vioxx.

  • It's not so much the mercury any more as many countries have banned the use of mercury in vaccines. Additives such as anti freeze and aluminium bother the hell out of me, especially when aluminium suppresses the immune system. Aluminium is used as it's the cheapest and easiest way for the pharmaceutical company to deliver the vaccine successfully. Let's put the delivery of vaccines back into the hands of the people and take the profits out of it.

  • You are right , but most people don't know vaccines contain formaldehyde and phenols as well as contaminated monkey virus mixed with egg proteins . There are a number of chemicals in vaccines you would never touch with your hands , but it's fine to inject your children with them .Many people won't even use deoderants with Aluminum in them .

  • Study concludes that infants pass mercury in vaccines too quickly for it to build up in their systems.

    Pediatric News, Volume 42, Issue 2, Pages 10-10

    H. SPLETE

  • this is a simple way to find out what is in a vaccine, ask for the MSDS sheets, By law they have to give you the MSDS sheet

  • Contents of vaccines are not secret in any way and are always available to the public.

  • Then why don't the doctors provide them at the time of vaccination?

  • Because most parents don't care what the ingredients are, they care to know if the vaccines have harmful effects. Do you need to know what's in aspirin? If yes, ask me...but most people just want to know potential adverse effects. THAT is given by doctors at every single shot visit (VIS).

  • @amiriliano 500% false! thats the most erroneous statement ever. at every doctors visit (west med), u can c the parents & doctors both blindly smiling & gettin shot up without even lookin @ what the hell r in those shots. Safety & effecacy r largely assumed & presumed.

    who u gonna try to quote? the cdc? just so u kno, the cdc is in bed w/ the pharma companies! They hold VESTED INTERESTS & r hardly accountable to the public thus cant objectively make any sort of statement

  • @amiriliano o ur right- ie the swine flu vaccine guess what, was found to not even contain a strain of so called swine flu!

    And guess what they put in there instead? crap, poo & dung like mercury, aluminum, ABORTED FETAL TISSUE, and whole lot of other crap. now- just plain logically, if u even consume like half this stuff, u could quite easily get sick or even die. Yes die! google: "Dartmouth researcher poisoned by material she was studying"

    And u r injecting that shit into the body & expect to

  • @imbrd Well, when you're done yelling, why don't you provide one study that show that vaccines are harmful in the way you are describing.

    Will be waiting.

    Thanks

  • @imbrd "Dartmouth researcher poisoned by material she was studying"..........They were poisoned by dimethylmercury. Want to show me a vaccine with that in it? Also have you ever heard the term, "the dose makes the poison"

  • This is a good video, though Autism is NOT a disease. It is a different way of life. A better way of life. A whole new world for everybody to experience. We all need to live life together in harmony.

  • This is EUGENICS PROPAGANDA. and its not the vaccine itself but the preservative. Thermerisol is mercury Mercury is one of the most poisonous substances there is. Why don't they just use another preservative? Because they want to poison US. Mercury casues autism in children and alzheimers in adults. There is no reason for "MANDATING" vaccinations. What do you care if I don't get a vaccine if you did? You should be protected...what do you care if I get sick? The true purpose is eugenics

  • If it is about eugenics and genocide, then the government is doing a very crappy job at it. A tiny percent of vaccinated children die or get sick as a result.Autism doesn't kill you the way that AIDS or measles do.

  • Herd immunity, you idiot. And children, who depend on their parents to give them medical care, not to neglect them.

  • A recent study conducted by the CDC found that children who were vaccinated (but not fully) tend to come from homes run by poor, unmarried, badly educated mothers who trust their doctors, whereas children who were never vaccinated tend to come from homes where they are well-provided for, with married parents who possess a college degree and do not permit doctors to influence their vaccination decisions.

    Reuters. July 6, 2004.]

  • would you be so kind as t pass a link or reference to this "study"?

    thanks

  • Fox, Maggie. "Reasons Differ for Unvaccination and Undervaccination of Children." Reuters. July 6, 2004.]

    Sorry, that's all I have. I got it from the thinktwice website. You will see it when you click on 'studies'.

  • OK I read it. You always have a hard time understanding what you read. The article is saying that AMONG THOSE who refuse to vaccinate, the majority tended to be "white, to have a mother who was married and had a college degree." YOU (as usual) interpret this to mean "educated people don't vaccinate". No and again no. Most people vaccinate and most well educated people vaccinate. Out of a small minority of non-vaccinators, the majority had a college degree....2 different things,

  • "Out of a small minority of non-vaccinators, the majority had a college degree..."

    It still means that the majority of parents who don't vaccinate their children are not negligent parents, but well-educated parents who have made an informed choice. They are a minority, that's true, but a growing number.

  • prove "growing number"

    The number of vaccines questions has increased, but in my my practice we are actually seeing a sharp drop in non vaccinators. People are now much more aware of the growing evidence that debunks the autism myth + the recent Wakefield fraud charges + the change of heart at "Autism Speaks". My job has suddenly become easier!

  • "prove "growing number"

    No accurate ststistcs are available, so I can't. My statement is based on an article in a New Zealand public health publications of a few years ago in which some public health official complained that thanks to the anti-vaccination movement in New Zealand, an ncreaing number of parents, most of them affluent and well-educated, chose to leave their children unvaccinated.

  • and btw, thanks for showing me statistics from 2004, obviously we're doing a good job because vaccination rates are higher than ever despite you and the voices in your head: Google : "WEBMD

    Childhood Vaccination Rates High

    CDC: Less Than 1% of Kids Get No Vaccination by Age 19-35 Months"

  • "vaccination rates are higher than ever"

    I wouldn't count on it. In New Zealand, the so-called health authorities impress upon parents how high vaccination rates are one mnute, to show them that only a few fringe lunatics don't vaccinate their children, yet only a few weeks later they will complain about LOW vaccination rates and what a disgrace this is, to make parents feel gulity. They will tell us ANYTHING, to up vaccination rates!

  • 2/12/09 Vaccine Courts deny all three test cases on autism vaccine link stating that they fall "far short" of providing evidence of biological plausibility.

  • Thanks SOOOOO much for this video series. There needs to be more videos debunking these horrible myths.

    stopjennydotcom

  • Ahhh! This video is SUCH bullshit! You can tell this to parents of vaccine-injured children ALL YOU WANT but that doesn't undo the damage done to my 3-year-old who stopped talking 6 hours after her DTaP, among sooo many others, not to mention the SIDS babies who die just hours after vaccines!

  • I am deeply sorry about your child. I definitely am listening to the many parents who report their children's autism began right after vaccination. However, at this point in time, there is so much research encompassing 100's of thousands of children worldwide that have failed to show such correlation.There is no eveidence that vaccines cause autism in any way.

  • "I am deeply sorry about your child."

    Spare us your crocodile tears. You are a child molester and disinformation agent. Kursivewriting just told you that her child stopped talking 6 hours after her quadruple vaccination, and all you can do is to blab about "studies" which deny culpability for the obvious harm vaccines cause. Go and crawl under a rock.

  • Good thing you aren't in the UK, or you would have serious libel issues...

  • "in the UK you would have serious libel issues"

    Is the UK so far gone that speaking the truth can land you in trouble?

  • Calling someone you don't know a child molester is indeed far from a truth and you would be hard pressed to prove your case.

  • "Calling someone you don't know a child molester is indeed far from a truth and you would be hard pressed to prove your case."

    If you are a peadiatrician who vaccinates children, you're a child molester, as far as I am concerned. If you don't vaccinate children, I withdraw my statement with apologies.

  • Your definition is not the one that counts.

  • "Your definition is not the one that counts"

    I know. It's nevertheless a more accurate one than calling someone who poisons children with vaccines a "health professional."

  • amiriliano says (8months ago as of nov 20, 2008):

    "So I don;t listen to the companies...I just look at independent evidence whenever I can."

    Response: But do you always look into who funds the "independent evidence"?

  • Absolutely.

    Do you?

  • I am not the one making that claim.

    You are the one now claiming that you ALWAYS look into who funded the evidence that you look at.

    Thanks for the response.

  • "Thanks for the response."

    Amiriliano is not worth giving the time of the day to. As Dr Shelton has put it so well: "Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity". Amiriliano is a severely affected case. He should really be put in a straight jacket, along with so many others, and put in an appropriate institution.

  • Yet another well reasoned and evidenced reply. Good job.

  • "independent evidence"

    The independent evidence are the millions of childrens who have been vaccine injured.

  • The antidote to amiriliano's pro-vaccination propaganda videos is the youtube video series parts 1 - 5 'Vaccination: Miracle or Mayhem?'

  • Vaccines work indeed, but in ways people don't usually imagine. The Gardasil vaccine is a good example. By August 14 this year, Judicial Watch, a non-profit interest group which has monitored the vaccine's progress since it was released. reported "21 deaths and 9749 adverse reactions, including 78 outbreaks of genital warts and 10 miscarriages".

  • Thank you for making this video to show the other side of the story. I wish all parents had taken a research class in college to help them wade through the literature on this topic. Parents should see both sides of this story and review the literature before making their decision. Try to remove the emotion from the science.

  • If your children weren't affected by their vaccines, consider yourself lucky. But for the thousands of us who have (who are research majors in college, incidentally!) had their 3-year-old stop talking 6 hours after a DTaP vaccine, this "research" holds no water as it was put out by companies who get financial bonuses from pharmaceutical companies. Wake up.

  • Why was your child receiving its first DTaP at 3 years? If it wasn't the first, then you have to question why it happened then but not before, and if it was the first, what else was going on that delayed the immunization for over two years? There is something wrong with your research.

  • "Why was your child receiving its first DTaP at 3 years?"

    Who said it was her child's first shot? And even if it was, what does that have to do with anything? Vaccination should be criminalised and offenders jailed, as is the case with deluded people who mutilate girls for cultural reasons. At least genital mutilation doesn't destroy children's brains, as vaccines do.

  • Is your reading really so poor? I gave specific reasoning as to why this being the first shot was relevant.

  • Very well-laid out argument. Thank you for trying to get the truth out there!

  • Watch my youtube videos "Vaccination: Miracle or Mayhem? Part 1 is about vaccine ingredients, part 2 about vaccine injuries and part 3 questions whether vaccines are effective.

  • Here is the bottom line...

    If you believe that ALL vaccinations are necessary, harmless, and good for you, and that drug companies have your best interest in mind, you are misinformed.

    If you believe that ALL vaccinations are bad for you, unnecessary, and don't actually do anything, you are just as misinformed as the other guy.

    But I guess there will always be people who take things to the extreme for all of eternity....

  • People who make, promote, use, or believe in vaccinations are a monument to the human's unlimited capacity for evil, ignorance, stupidity and gullibiliy. They suffer, as Dr H Shelton pointed out, from a form of delusional insanity.

  • MORE EVIDENCE OF THE ANTI-VAX LIARS

    A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Autism

    N Eng. J Med 2002 Nov 7;347(19):1477-1482

    Time Trends in Autism and in MMR Immunization Coverage in California

    JAMA 2001 Mar 7;285(9):1183-1185.

    Autism and measles-mumps-rubella vaccination: controversy laid to rest?

    CNS Drugs. 2001;15(11):831-7.

    No evidence for a new variant of measles-mumps-rubella-induced autism.

    Pediatrics. 2001 Oct;108(4):E58.

  • Time Trends in Autism and in MMR Immunization Coverage in California

    JAMA 2001 Mar 7;285(9):1183-1185.

    Autism and measles-mumps-rubella vaccination: controversy laid to rest?

    CNS Drugs. 2001;15(11):831-7.

    No evidence for a new variant of measles-mumps-rubella-induced autism.

    Pediatrics. 2001 Oct;108(4):E58.

  • Re: studies

    You could have spared yourself the trouble; they're all lies. They have been designed with a pre-determined result in mind, namely to show that the obvious link between vaccines and autism doesn't exist: what must not be cannot be!

  • Bullshitting idiot. Unless you have evidence that they are lies screw off. EVIDENCE is what counts and you have none.

  • "Bullshitting idiot"

    You're the idiot who believes BS. Watch the Snr US Attorney Robert F Kennedy interview on youtube in which he refers to studies which deny a vaccines-autism link as junk science and tobacco science.

  • An assessment of thimerosal use in childhood vaccines.

    Pediatrics 2001;107:1147-154.

    Institute of Medicine.

    Immunization safety review. Thimerosal- containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders.

    Stratton K, Gable A, McCormick MC, eds.

    Washington DC: National Academy Press, 2001.

    Mercury, infant neurodevelopment, and vaccination.

    J Pediatr 2000;136:571-73.

  • Am. Academy of Pediatrics, Committee on Infectious Diseases and Environmental Health.

    Thimerosal in vaccines -an interim report to clinicians (RE9935).

    Ped. 1999;104:570-74.

    Cognitive performance of children prenatally exposed to "safe" levels of methylmercury.

    Envir. Res 1998;77:165-72.

    Effects of prenatal and postnatal methylmercury exposure from fish consumption on neurodevelopment: outcomes at 66 months of age in the Seychelles Child Development Study.

    JAMA 1998;280:701-07.

  • This video is clearly misinformation as it repeats the often repeated lie that "vaccines are safe and effective."

    Even the medical profession acknowledges that vaccines occasionally cause brain damage and that outbreaks of "vaccine-preventable" diseases continue to occur even in highly vaccinated populations.

    So how can vaccines be claimed to be safe or effective? The vaccine certainly wasn't "safe" for the child who was brain-injured or killed by a vaccine.

  • Vaccines ARE extremely dangerous! And no, they don't work! Do your homework!

  • Anti-vaccnation information one-sided? OK then, what would you call pro-vaccination information? Balanced? I would call it pure propaganda.

  • There is no pro vaccination information. It is simply information, science which happens to support a pro-vaccination approach.

  • "science which happens to support a pro-vaccination approach"

    Vaccination is a barbaric medical assault on children backed by junk scicne at its best (or worst, depending on how you look at it). It is also a gigantic medical experiment wthout informed consent of the test subjects, which makes it a crime against humanity.

  • Billons of people now alive, speak to the efficacy of vaccination programs.

  • "Billons of people now alive, speak to the efficacy of vaccination programs."

    Vaccination has only been around for about 200 years. Humans multiplid very successfully befoe vaccination, and despite the odd epidemic killing some people.

    It's the billions of people the psychopaths at the top are concernd about, hence their efforts to control and reduce the world population with vaccinatio programmes and other means.

  • Contd. (1)

    Because people wouldn't want the shots if they were told the truth about them, they market them as "disease prevention" or "immunisation". It's a deadly deception. If you don't realise it now, you may one day, when you are ill from a bird flu shot you were stupid enough (or were forced) to take.

  • Try finding one study that validates your crap. There is none.

  • Your idiotic rhetoric can't change the established facts.

    Vaccinations have cut the mortality of some diseases by almost 100%.

  • "Vaccinations have cut the mortality of some diseases by almost 100%"

    Sorry, that's not what the graphs based o oficial statistics of disease mortality rats show! They show that vaccines came in at the end of the remarkable decline in the number of deaths from infectious diseases, and that they didn't make the slightest bit of difference!

  • A false claim that is addressed in the video.

  • "A false claim that is addressed in the video."

    No, it's a fact that the makers of the video are (unsuccessfully) trying to distort.

    have a look at some of the graphs by googling 'whale vaccine disease mortality graphs'

  • you can be sure that anything that comes out of whale to is a lie. I am familiar with their disinformation campaign.

  • All these studies and possibly hundreds more from a variety of countries prove the anti vax claims are false and their conspiracy fears are unfounded and irrational.

  • Tony Isaacs, I'm orry but you are totally brainwashed and deluded. As Dr Shelton put it so well: "Belief in immunisation is a form of delusional insanity".

  • "Why do you bother to defend against something you believe is absolute rubbish?"

    Correct. Truth doesn't need defending; it just is. If vaccations were really as good as they are portrayed to be, nobody would argue against them. It's just when millions of vaccine-injured children start to litter the landscape that questions are being asked and oppostion grows, even from among the medical profession.

  • The reason people argue against vaccines is because they are ignorant. The same reason that people will argue against others well established facts. Vaccines have saved the lives of billions of people, a large percentage of those being children and infants.

  • "people argue against vaccines because they are ignorant"

    No. They oppose vaccines because they use their common sense, unlke most medical doctors whose common sense has been educated out of them at medical school, in order to turn them into legalised drug pushers for the pharma industry.

    "Vaccines have saved the lives of billions of people"

    You are so gullible! Vaccines have never protected anyone, let alone saved anyone's life. Do you believe in Father Christmas as well?

  • They are ignorant, and it show in the arguments they make. The opposition to vaccination is closely linked with other conspiracy beliefs. There is a reason why we did not advance until the scientific method was developed, common sense is usually wrong. Humans are not very good at making associations and tend toward post hoc errors.

    I can read scientific journals. You, obviously cannot.

  • "There is a reason why we did not advance until the scientific method was developed"

    Jenner launched his filthy vaccine in 1976, before microscopes or virology even existed. Cuts were made into the skin on the bellies of restrained calves, into which pus and lymph from the blister of someone who had been vaccinated with cowpox was rubbed. When the cuts had festered for some time, the scabs wer scaped off and the pus and lymph was filled into bottles. That was the vaccine!

  • Contd. (1)

    Because the lymph rubbed into the cuts sometimes came from sick people, the vaccine spread TB, syphilis and gonorrhea. It also brain-injured, maimed and killed countless people.

  • Contd. (2)

    Watch the youtube video "Smallpox: What do you know?" or google impfkritik zeitdokumente, then click on 'Impf-Friedhof' or 'Segen der Impfung' to see horrifying photos of smallpox vaccine damage from around 1900. So much for the "blessings" of

    Jenner's smallpox vaccine.

    It is this fraud that today's multi-billion dollar vaccine industry is built on.

  • Yo! Vaccinebullshiter.

    Vaccine for polio was not around in 1900. Fucking useless liars like you make me sick.

  • You pwned him! The anti-vaxxers make up so many lies they don't know when to stop....

    Polio vaccines from the 1900s,,,, HAHAHA!

    Classic anti-vax liar.

  • Jenner? 1976? You are thinking of Olympic decathlete Bruce Jenner.

  • "Jenner? 1976?"

    Oops! That should have been 1796!

  • "Jenner launched his filthy vaccine in 1976"

    Sorry, that should have been 1796!

  • "We are slowly but surely destroying the intelligence of our future generations with vaccination."

    Dr. med. G. Buchwald, Germany, author of "Vaccination - A Business based on Fear."

  • Very good at quotemines, and inversely bad at finding facts.

  • I found this little gem, specially for amiriliano, by Carlo Ruta, Professor of Materia Medica at the University of Perugia, Italy:

    "Vaccination is a monstrosity, a misbegotten offspring of error and ignorance; and being such, it has no place in either hygiene or medicine... Believe not in vaccination, it is a world-wide delusion, an unscientific practice, a fatal superstition, with consequences measured today by tears and sorrow without end."

  • Well, then I strongly suggest you take the advice of "Carlo Ruta, Professor of Materia Medica at the University of Perugia, Italy" (who??). For the rest of us, we'll follow the advice of essentially every other physician, nurse and researcher as approved by almost every government in the world: get vaccinated!

  • Ruta was referring to Jenner's useless and barbaric smallpox vaccine after a century of use. GB Shaw and M Gandhi were also outspoken opponents.

    Modern vaccines are not much better. They just maim and kill babies and nfants in slightly more subtle ways, so as not to arouse TOO much suspicion.

  • "For the rest of us, we'll follow the advice of..."

    Sure. That's what sheeple are know to do. No brain, no pain. Like lemmings over a cliff. As if you didn't have an immune system capable of protecting you. Up to you though, as long as you don't expect the rest of us to subscribe to this vaccination nonsense and superstition.

  • You guys are very good when it comes to finding quotes, lousy when it comes finding facts.

  • "lousy when it comes finding facts"

    The fact is that vaccines have never prevented any diseases. Compile the official infectious disease mortality rates from any country in graph form and then draw an arrow where the vaccine against the particular disease was first used.

    You will almost invariably find that most of the decline of any disease PRECEDED vaccination, and that the introduction of the vaccine didn't make the slightest bit of difference.

  • Contd.

    In other words, patting the children on the head would have been as effective, and much less dangerous than vaccines.

  • That's a blatant lie. Vaccines have been show to prevent various diseases, from polio to measles and soon hopefully malaria. The anti vaxxers distort the evidence and cherry pick small factoids in order to push their anti intellectual agenda

  • Great video, as always.

  • How can you have more deaths from the flu than actual cases of flu?

  • Where did you get that idea from? Show us a reference, please.

  • It's refreshing to see some honesty on youtube. Good job standing up to the 'anti-vaccination' nut, whatever their reasons may be.

    just a short, but very appreciative thank you.

  • I appreciate the support! I will be adding new episodes soon.

    -A

  • Austin's K-EYE news reported that Journal Pediatrics has 2 articals suggesting improved childhood brain function due to thimerosal. Does anyone know the name of these papers.

  • the profitiers will lie till their death to protect their profits, be it from the loss of money from the banning of vaccinations or lawsuits from the effects of vaccinations caused.

    until you lose a child or have one badly affected after a vaccination, u will not understand the passion & the determination of the people fighting the pharma companies, u dont need a medical degree 2 understand what happened when u see ur child die or deteriorate before ur eyes soon after a vaccination.

  • believe nothing of what u hear and half of what u see.

    Most scientific studies supporting vaccines are probably funded, supported or recieve donations from the same evil bastards who profit from the vaccines, much like a herion dealer, if they dont push it, they dont get paid.

  • With all due respect,

    You will no doubt attribute post vaccination symptoms to anything but... .

    This scenario played out last week for a work colleague of mine with a sore shoulder and enlarged lymph node proximal to the shot recieved a few days earlier. The E D Drs were trying to link an ingrown hair to the symtoms. Hilarious.

    I am interested to view you films.

  • Sounds like it may be a local reaction to the vaccine. Relatively rare but can certainly happen; annoying but safe and transient. Hope your friend is OK.

  • "Sounds like it may be a local reaction to the vaccine. Relatively rare but can certainly happen; annoying but safe and transient."

    I have come across a child and two adults who got cancer at the vaccine injection site. They had to have it surgically removed.

  • OK, doctor.

  • Turns out my healthy mid 30's colleague had an enlarged lymph node and a thrombus in the shoulder on CT review. Two system's adversely affected!. What vaccine content/s could account for these?.

  • I don't know. That's a hard question. I have never heard of this effect due to vaccines and it is quite plausible that it was not vaccine related despite the timing. Go to the VAERS web site where many adverse reactions thought to be due (but not necessarily so) to vaccines are cataloged) search 'thrombus'and 'lymph node' see if it's happened before.

    -A

  • I now need a statistician. Let's see, 2 systems adversely affected, both just proximal to the DPT shot, shoulder pain in days post shot, an otherwise healthy woman, ED Doc suggests ingrown hair, 'none visible'!. You now suggest "plausible that it was not vaccine". With all due respect again, please review my initial comment.

  • I think you need to think about it more. What you're doing is bad medicine by taking events that seem related and making a connection. As I said, it could be a local reaction, but: YOU tell ME how you connect lymphadenopathy with a thrombotic event. From the little info you provided, I can't think of the pathophysiology that would lead to this. Either I need more info or u misunderstood or it's not the shots. You have to think it through.

  • "You have to think it through".

    I have. I have come to the conclusion that you are an apologist for the child abuse you euphemistically refer to as "immunisation".

  • "What you're doing is bad medicine by taking events that seem related and making a connection."

    You mean like crediting vaccines with the totally unrelated decline of infectious diseases?

  • "I don't know"

    No, you don't know anything. A child could drop dead in front of your eyes after getting vaccinated and it would just be a coincidence to you.

  • "That's a hard question. I have never heard of this effect due to vaccines"

    Get a grip o yourself! Just because you haven't heard of it, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It actually DOES happen!

  • "Turns out my healthy mid 30's colleague had an enlarged lymph node and a thrombus"

    I have come across parents whose child developed a cancer on the thigh, at the vaccination site. They amputated her leg.

    I have also met a nurse and a Vietnm War veteran who got cancers at the vaccination sites on their shoulders and had to have them surgically removed.

  • Contd.

    I also know of a girl who lost the use of her leg because the nurse hit a major nervewith the needle when vaccinating her.

  • "a sore shoulder and enlarged lymph node proximal to the shot recieved a few days earlier"

    I have come across three people (a child and two adults) who got cancer at the injection site. Vaccines are absoute FILTH! DON'T HAVE THEM!!!!!!!!

  • The annual rates of serious adverse reactions and deaths from prescribed drugs have almost tripled since 1998. Just 51 drugs -- including painkillers AND IMMUNE-SYSTEM MODIFYING AGENTS -- were responsible for most reactions. In 2005, 15,107 people in the USA died as a result of taking a prescription drug, while 89,842 people suffered a serious adverse reaction resulting in disability, hospital care or a birth defect.

  • Contd.

    Overall, the FDA received reports of 467,809 deaths and serious adverse reactions between 1998 and 2005. (Source: Archives of Internal Medicine, 2007; 167: 1752-9).

    That's a nice little summary of the state of today's pharmaceutical-industry-sponso­red so-called medical science.

  • Hi!

    I am just catching up on all of the vaccination video's on youtube.

    I am a nursing student (I haven't had time over the last 4 months for youtube), who is the mother of a 6 year old autistic child.

    Thanks for putting out the GOOD word on vaccinations!

    Look forward to more!

    CHEERS!

  • Thanks for your support. Good luck in school!

  • "Thanks for your support. Good luck in school!"

    Yes, you'll need it, to escape your complete indoctrination. Now you are partially brain-washed, soon you will be fully brain-washed! Beware, babies of the world, here comes jab-crazy happynurse!

  • "CHEERS!"

    The feeble-minded cheering the feeble-minded!

  • Well, color me shocked!

    Calling those of us who defend vaccinations feeble minded, and crazy!

    You only give those of us who defend vaccinations credibility, and put yourself in a negative light!

    It is okay truthcrusader2008, the MAJORITY will still continue to vaccinate!

    CHEERS!

  • "the MAJORITY will still continue to vaccinate!"

    That just shows that the feebel-minded are in a majority. Remember it was also a majority which believed that the wold was flat, and the mainstream establishment threatened to burn those who claimed that the earth moves around the sun at the stake. It shows that we still live in the Dark Ages!

  • " It shows that we still live in the Dark Ages! "

    Yeah for example some people beleive any stupid thing they're told, like vaccines don;t work when the evidence is so overwhelming. But you can scream all you want, your shouts echo in empty cyberspace. Happynurse is right, most people do vaccinate and will continue to do so. She and I will continue to vaccinate while you are forgotten in the vaccum of You Tube.

  • Thanks amirilliano, you saved me from having to answer to the blatherings of a severely convoluted individual!

    CHEERS!

  • Sure.

    Keep saving lives!

    -A

  • Thank god the government says everything is ok!(sarcasm) If the government admits vaccines are harmful their would be revolts and lawsuits.

    It is in their best interest to to publish reports saying ""their vaccines"" are ok.

    Now lets talk about Flouride and Aspartame.

  • Luckily, the vast majority of studies in this matter are not only performed by independent researchers, but they are done so internationally...ie in countries far away from the influence of American vaccine manufacturers. Of course to know that, you would have had to read the studies and theur acknowledgments, which I have a feeling you may have decided to forgo, despite providing your erroneous opinions.

  • Now lets thank god that your IQ doesn't exeed 80, otherwise you could do real damage to society (no sarcasm).

  • You forgot MSG :-)

    The thing is, the people who say that vaccines cause autism are parents of autistic kids who watched what happened to their kids after their shots. And guess what? I am one of them. And guess what? We believed this long before Wakefield published his "infamous" study. We're not anti-vaccine. THAT is propaganda. We are "pro-vaccine safety."

  • Well, the scientific community around the world has listened to parents like yourself who believe that they observed their child's autism develop after and because of vaccination. They listened and dutifully carried out large, international, well constructed studies ( I can provide references) . There was no increased rate in autism in children who had received MMR or thimerosal compared to those who had not. So what would you like us to do now?

  • "So what would you like us to do now?"

    Pull your heads out of your arses, wipe the shit out of your eyes and then do some unbiased studies. Not that you are capable of it.

  • "We are "pro-vaccine safety"

    "Vaccine safety" is like "military intelligence" or "medical ethics" a contradiction in terms, or, to use he echnical term, an 'oxymoron' (from the Greek, meaning "pointedly foolish"). The only way vaccine safety can be guaranteed is by ABSTAINING from vaccines.

  • "We are "pro-vaccine safety."

    Then you are ignorant of the fact that there is no such thing as a "vaccine-preventable disease" or "vaccine safety". The reason for this is very simple: ALL VACCINES ARE USELESS AND DANGEROUS.

  • "accepted information"

    "best scientific evidence at large"

    Didnt scientists say the world was flat?

    Didnt people say fight was impossible?

    just becuase the University of Toronto didnt like the videos on youtube you should beleive UofT? He said She said.

    Dont big universitys get huge grants(like lots money) from drug companies? They do, and they wont say something bad about people who are giving lots of money to the schools. Read between the lines.

  • No, people in general said the world was flat.

    Scientists proved it was round.

  • "people in general said the world was flat"

    It was the mainstream establishment which claimed that the sun mover around the earth. Similarly, it is the church of medical so-called science which would now have us believe in the absurd claim that vaccines prevent diseases.

    As Lincoln said:"You can't fool all the people all of the time!" He was shot to shut him up.

  • PS AMar.. My best friend from college is a pediatrician. Most my friends are doctors, scientists, artists, and financiers. I also drink wine with blue collar workers who were like my dad! Been there done that! Life IS short.

  • I highly recommend this video... we need more

  • MZ Look at the video again.. the narrator is quoting antivaxers who think autism and aspergers is a disease.. NONE of my doctors as my medical professionals and my medical friends say aspergers or autism is a disease or disorder.. they have too many aspie doctor friends :) the antivaxers are promoting us as a disease or disorder...

  • MZ..The narrator is not stating that Autism is a disease..he is quoting Wakefield and other antivax loons who claim its a disease or disorder. Please look at these channels carefully and what the narrator is trying to say. know who is calling it a disease and who is not. Antivax refer to aspergers and autism as a disease or disorder. in fact one has a site entitled Austim stole my son. Like its a disease. this same person censors anything against her opinion and she prostitutes her son's images.

  • And as you know we aspies are not touchy feely when it comes to communication.. we are matter of fact.. We dont have time to coddle NT moronic parents who don't "wanna" or who are using their children for selfish purposes.. We will help as best we can.. its up to the aspie/autie or their parents.

  • People need to take responsibility for their lives and their childrens... We can provide education and experience from our success as Aspies and autie women.. but the person or parents HAVE TO HAVE THE WANNA!

  • yetti in the video above at 03.47 - it refers to a video of "a child afflicted by the horrible disease autism is" that wording is not from that video as I have watched it and posted to it. So are those words dr armas? Perhaps the good doctor would like to make their position clear on exactly how they view autism...

  • I should expand on that statement. People like Yetti, diagnosed "on the spectrum" do not seem to be "afflicted". In fact, as you can tell, are quite capable if not exceptional. I was refering to children with severe autism, which, in many cases can be devastating to families. Having encountered families of severly autistic children many times, I can tell you they are suffering. The medical community has alot to learn about autism and we could do a much better job at helping.

  • Having encountered families of severly autistic children many times, I can tell you they are suffering. - suffering from what doctor? My kids suffer from gut problems (co-morbids) caused by MMR. People dont suffer from autism only ignorance of what autism truly is.

  • I have gut problems..nexium works. I also have OCD.. Lexapro works.. I also have mild hypomania.. I LOVE iT.. gives me the energy and drive I need to be an aspie.. like a second backup battery :)

  • You have your own pesronal experience and you have dealt with it in your own way. Every patient and every family is an individual and deals with things in different ways. I have seen people break down and cry, one couple divorced, parents undergoing therapy for depression...parents in denial...and some parents accepting and doing the best they can. I am happy to hear that you have found your peace and wish your family well.

  • Every patient and every family is an individual and deals with things in different ways. I have seen people break down and cry, one couple divorced, parents undergoing therapy for depression...parents in denial...and some parents accepting and doing the best they can. I am happy to hear that you have found your peace and wish your family well. >> Amarill.. I have seen the same as you have. I am aware.. :) But I never stated I never had problems... I was abused and survived :)

  • cont. I have see it all and so have my aspie women friends who are my age... the good , the bad ad the ugly in NT and aspie families, including our own. We lived a long life and survived it all and are happy. I was a scout leader for 4 yrs and had to deal with multitudes of horrific familial problems iwth the parents of the girls I lead. I am very aware of most the problems.

  • cont. you are young amirliao and very patient. I just kick b*tt. at my age ;) no time for excuses and their selfishness. our scoiety has IMO degenerated to a PC selfish uneducated and disrespectful society.. TIme we pull in the reigns and establish boundaries, education and discipline. Enough of touchy feelie iwth loon parents

  • The medical community has alot to learn about autism and we could do a much better job at helping.

    Agreed perhaps we can start by changing the DSMIV and separating the co-morbids from the diagnosis of autism. cant you see thats what the problem has been all along, confusion as to what autism truly was.

  • Agreed perhaps we can start by changing the DSMIV and separating the co-morbids from the diagnosis of autism. cant you see thats what the problem has been all along, confusion as to what autism truly was. >> I have always known this since I learned I had aspergers last year. so do my aspie friends and most medical doctors.. Ask Donna Williams who is an autie.. its because they never could get her co morbid diagnosis right , that was the problem.. not the autism..

  • cont...once they FINALLY got her co morbid diagnosis right and got the right cocktail of meds for those working.. Donna's aspieness is fine... she has a phd.. no problems.. but it was a long road getting to that point in her time. it was always the comorid.. I found that true iwth myself , my family and my friends and their families who have aspergers. Its soo simple!

  • Donna Williams is such... the problem was wrong diagnoses of her co morbids.. she and I talked about this.. once they got the right diagnosis of her comorbids and the right cocktail of meds to handle them.. Her aspieness is a piece of cake.. again doctor you are confusing misdiagnosed comorbids for autism. these poor souls have very debilitatiog comorbids. I know I have family lke this..I also know NTs who have horrific comorbids which place them on social services..

  • The mother I encounter with children who show extreme challenges with their so call autism were really focusingn problems or ADD or ODD or OCD or bi polar or BPD or migraines etc. the parents even when educated were not dealing with these comorbids and just whining about the autism or aspergers and related these comorbids as a result of aspergers or autism. WRONG!

  • cont. Take care of the comorbid ~ resepct and teach your child how to work in an NT