@eatthisvr6 norman mailer was one of the best novelists of the twentieth century, an amateur boxer when he was young, and a friend of ali's. he was hired by some big magazine and paid a lot of money to cover the fight for them.
Also Norman Mailer is a pretentious douche. Go help let out another killer because you think he's a great writer dumbass. If Mailer, Cossell and Ali got together the amount of ego would blow up everything in a 10 mile radius.
Ali then went on to duck Foreman for the rest of his career. I wonder why? I'd take a Foreman/Ali 2 over any of Ali's fights after rumble in the jungle. Ali losing to Norton, Spinks, Holmes, and Burbick was nice though.
What about the two more fights against Frazier, or his third fight against Ken Norton? Both of them had already beaten Ali, so he still needed redemption there. Those fights were pretty good, wouldn't you say?
I watched this clip several times before I actually watched the entire film, and I had no idea that white haired guy was Norman Mailer. I thought he was some old boxing trainer or fight writer because he sounded like such an authority.
This wasn't the first time by no stretch that Ali threw that right hand lead. In fact alot of pros do it. If you watch Ali throw the one he's talks about Ali actually turns his body to where in that situation the right hand lead is the punch where less distance has to be covered.
Desire, conditioning, courage, strength, focus. Thanks for this upload. Im glad to be living, have witnessed a couple of the greatest, and most artistic athletes in that time.
Creo que en esa noche, Ali se condecoró como el mejor de todos; estoy seguro que ese 30 de octubre le hubiera ganado a los mejores pesos pesados de todos los tiempos; desde Sullivan hasta Klitschko, pasando por Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Marciano y Tyson.
Muhammad Ali vs. George Foreman... George Foreman vs. Muhammad Ali: 37 años de una de las peleas más famosas de la historia del boxeo. Domingo 30 de octubre de 2011.
Besides what Ali did here was brilliant, in boxing. He was so ringsmart. Right hand cross, is exactly the punch Foreman was never trained on. No sparring partner would do that, with a big indestructible heavyweight like George.
Ali might do it, and did it in previous fights, in a combination, but nobody would dream of him doing that, witouth a left jab leading it first. It takes not only a great boxingmind, but also guts to do that. Plus his speed helped a lot too.
George Foreman looked dehydrated, thin and tired here. This fight was fought at 3 in morning in Africa with the whole continent rooting for Ali. I'd b surprised if Foreman's water was even clean. But, Ali won fair. Still, Foreman in Madison Square Garden at a decent hour might have been a different story. He killed all of their common opponents. Foreman murdered Frazier twice before u even got to ur seat.
@aitraining It was the same with Floyd Patterson, as Ali explained and the same with Sonny Liston. Liston destroyed Pattersone in one round. Ali fought Patterson twice, for 15 rounds, and never knocked him out. However Ali knocked Sonny Liston out. I's the difference in the style. Frazier's style and height were bad for him. Foreman was not dehydrated. Ali beat him fair and square.So stop posting that on every single Ali video. Did Ali stole your girlfriend or something?
that stuff about the succubus is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Talk about not wanting to give Ali respect for beating a better, younger and stronger Foreman. At least the other old white guy is much more objective.
@khalkar Plimpton was speaking figuratively of the succubus - just like Nina Simone claiming she 'put a spell on' someone. Only a khalkar would take this literally.
Ali was 100% speed and maybe 50% power, foreman was 100% power and maybe 40% speed. But I would love to see prime Ali vs prime Tyson because he falls in the middle, around 95% power and 90% speed
8:34 to 8:36. Ali ducks under a hook stands up then pulls back within millimeters of a second hook. One of the many many reasons why he was, is and always will be the greatest
And yet George is a really nice guy, and intelligent. I, on the other hand am not so intelligent. I ordered a George Foreman grill from E bay last week and got sent a Playstation 3....Still can´t figure out where to put the T- Bones...
Ali won the fight in the first minute when he cracked Foreman with that right and then when Foreman tried to move inside Ali hit him with a solid left hook. The stage was set in that first minute.
when we were kings is extremley motivating and inspiring..even if you dont like boxing..its one of the greatest films of all time
i do like boxing and boxers today couldnt even lace the boots of ali,foreman or frazier..these guys were colossal fighters...the likes of david haye blaming a broken toe for a defeat.frazier fought virtually blind and ali once fought with a broken jaw!!!!!!!!!!!!
@abdi2man i do not think out boxing foreman was an option to be honest. ali woulda got knocked out. the first round is a good example of ali's boxing skills alone(without his ropa dope srategy) not being enough to stop george. foreman was too strong too tough and too much of a heavy hitter to take on directly
@abdi2man clearly there was a point....he won did he not? to win in boxing skill is not the only factor that should be considered/relied on, a boxer ability to withstand punishment, or being able to wear a fighter who is physically surperior down for example. ali was a strategist, and his skill in this area of fighting is clearly shown in this fight against foreman. plz if you are going to reply, a narrow minded view like yours isnt going to win this argument. also ali did win by KO nuff said
1:15 - Mobutu Sese Seko -- a dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of Zairians -- was placed into power by the CIA after the CIA orchestrated the overthrow of democracy in the Congo by assassinating the democratically elected President Patrice Lumumba in 1960.
The United States enjoys telling its population & the world that it goes around spreading democracy. In reality, the United States has enthusiastically supported every dictator & murdering fascist it could find.
@DKP4 i have red it. it was great! there's so many behind the scenes details, like the night they went jogging and stuff. i am from greece and i don't understund why you americans rate him so low as a writer. is it because he was so problematic as a person? i think he was a major writer and a great journalist. his book the armies of the the night is a masterpiece.
@constantine4711 Hi there, in fact I am Irish and I rate Norman Mailer very highly! I have not read 'Armies of the Night' but will look out for it, thanks for the tip
@constantine4711 but it would have been more accurate.because ali won 6 out of 8 and he presents it like he was destroyed until the witch and the vudu magic brought foreman down.god damn writers always having to dramatisize everything
Foreman should have just walked back into the center of the ring, evertime that Ali tried to "rope-a-dope" him. That's what Shavers did & gave Ali a real pounding (pissing blood after the fight).
how did they manage to make a classic documentary like this and yet give such a distorted view of the fight it s exceptionally lame.ali won straight 5 out of 8 rounds.knock out or not he would have won anyway.this fucking mailer describes a fictional story.fucking writers,they have to dramatise everything.the witch that sucked foreman s power and my ass
True warriors ! unlike today where one certain fighter fights once every 3 years ! or fights over PISS ! and claims to be the greatest ! HAHA yeah right !
Sad thing is when Foreman tried to rematch Ali, Ali avoided him, both boxers tried to make a comeback when they were older, Foreman was much more successful than Ali was when he came back
@Maxpaineforever ali was very fast but not a heavy puncher he beat forman by using his skill not power, sadly ali would soak up many punches during a bout and would win with speed and skill. but look at the fighters today ali forman frazer were all fantastic formen never really got hurt he is fine but poor ali is not too well frazer and ken norton are not too good. formen on the other hend is fine. dont get me wrong i love ali but this is a sad fact
@Maxpaineforever 6.10-6.13 try find a LHW or even middle nowadays never mind a HW that would dare go at that pace ... and in ali's case against a man that was killing ppl in the 2nd -4th round for fun... crazy speed and guts ... ali for me from here after a near 4 year lay off a few year before this , to come back in a ring and beat a man like this with so much power makes him the greatest for me .. tyson really really good but fought bums and did not have this mans heart !! simple
@Maxpaineforever and the left jab and the right uppercut and the left hook and the right uppercut and the right hook well you get the picture lol foreman was and probably still is more than capable of knocking the crap out of any boxer that has ever lived
ali was a genius and had speed like a jedi unbeleivable speed imho he is the only boxer who couldve stopped foreman that night he got inside his head. if you could match old foremans head and young physical attributes he wouldve been unstoable
@truthfulmind you are talking about Norman Mailer? Not only is he a phantastic story teller he words describe accurately what was happening. You can test his words against the footage. He describes pure drama, of course he is dramatic.
@truthfulmind You're right. Let's watch a documentary of a historical fight with people who just sit there with bland expressions on their faces and in their speech for 1.5 to 2 hours. That is much more entertaining.
but waste mans like = leon spinks, larry holmes & trevor berbick,,,fought him wen he was old...and u could see ali was old and not sharpe as he was...anyway larry holmes & trevor berbick got there beatings for wah dey done 2 ali,,,by tyson! lol snm
FOREMAN - ALI...GREAT ATHLETES....GREAT HUMAN BEINGS.9 OUT OF TEN TIMES GEORGE WOULD WIN THAT FIGHT....BUT NOT THAT NIGHT.THAT NIGHT THE SMARTEST GUY WON.
ali used his intelligence in this fight to overcome george foreman! as mailer points out george was physically stronger but ali applied his brilliant boxing brain along with enormous bravery - to overcome a boxer who had simply demolished all his prevoius opponents with sheer brute force! thats why in my view ali was the greatest..
only sugar ray leonard in my view compares to ali for sheer boxing skill and intelligence in the ring! george was probably the hardest puncher ever incidentally.
Ali has too many skills and he was smart enough to know which ones to use and when. I predict that would use speed, reach, and japs and of course trash talk to get Tyson to throwas many punches as possibe to wear him out. he wouldnt use the rope adope or the right hand lead. Tyson style is similar to Fraizer
Ali has too many skills and he was smart enough to know which ones to use and when. I predict that would use speed, reach, and japs and of course trash talk to get Tyson to throwas many punches as possibe to wear him out. he wouldnt use the rope adope or the right hand lead. Tyson style is similar to Fraizer the man Knows when to dance
@JaYmAdSeXy172 ali, sitting upon the toilet the next day, was slow to explain the feces appearing throughout his urine. moving his gaze away, though still urinating poop, the great man reached out to his newly aquired belt and felt the subtle but significant grooves....slowly....deliberate....careful......but it was, sadly, a broken moment as he started peeing out of his ass... "damn foreman......respect," said the poop urinating, pee deficating world champion.
@Smileyfacedkiller true, not happened yet to a sport in its infancy......but when's the last time the long standing boxing did anything remotely close to this? ......one's lost the marvel and another is giving it a try.
Ali proved beyond any shadow of doubt boxing is a thinking man's game. Not only was he the fastest and most accurate heavyweight ever, he was the smartest. Foreman had no idea what was about to happen to him. He got WORKED.
@frankdrebin Boxing IS NOT a thinking man's game. Gimme a f-n break. How many MENSA or highly educated men do you see in boxing? Boxing is a tough S.o.B's game.
@JohnLeeMD Boxing is very technical, and thought out when performed by people who actually train it. Even the training is thought out extensively, if a boxer trains incorrectly for another boxers type of fighting style he risks the fight. If a boxer goes into the ring with his chin in the air hands down and running at his opponent without thinking or technique, it wouldnt matter how tough he was he would get KO'd. NO you dont just need to be tough in martial arts you need technique and strength
@JohnLeeMD It doesnt matter what the word technical means. From experience of actually training, from hearing my coaches, and from experience in facing another person in a match wether it be Boxing, Kickboxing, Jiu Jitsu,, Karate, Judo, yes they do require thinking. Let me give an example you're Kickboxing, ur opponent likes to throw Power punches with his left, you have to tell yourself stay calm, finally u notice he leaves the body unguarded u realize the quickest counter is a body kick.
@JohnLeeMD boxing is a different kind of intelligence, almost an intuition that comes experience, mental and physical focus as well as natural smarts (like bill gates has) - why is that not obvious to you?
And please don't mention poker in a boxing conversation, a game (not sport, sorry espn2) primarily played by underachieving fat guys who play better the drunker they get - now run along
@mollkatles I'm not gonna argue this point anymore. You are flat-out stupid if you think boxing is a "thinking man's game." It is a sport for tough, talented people, which I certainly can appreciate. But to say it's a thinking man's game... that would be like saying poker (sticking with the example) is a sport. Obviously it's not a sport.
You don't have to be smart to box. You DO have to be smart, to be good (win) at poker. Poker is a thinking man's game. Boxing is not. Now GTFOOH, dumb$hit.
@JohnLeeMD Boxing is not a sport? what planet are you from? so poker obviously is a sport then? poker,a game which is decided by 90% luck,also you have to be in peak fitness to play poker eh?
@krisstruss See--here is an example of a stupid idiot. Learn how to read dummy. When you do, you'll see in the 2nd line, I said "It (boxing) is a sport..." At the end of the paragraph, I talk about poker, and saying it's obviously not a sport. durrrr
@JohnLeeMD im so sorry,i bow to your superior intellect,but listen,poker is 90% luck and 10% skill,with a boxer its the other way around,i would rather rely on skill than luck anyday.
@JohnLeeMD - I'm not saying people are taking an Ivy League education and seeing how far in boxing that degree will take them, what i am saying is that boxing, like virtually all other life activities rewards intelligence, Ali, SRL, Foreman etc.
That fact is often lost on sedintary, overweight,poker playing non athletes. Now, since it is a beautiful day out, why don't you go and lock yourself inside a small room that reeks of cigars and fat-guy b.o. and play an intellectual game of cards
@tretrioeciii yes some people call it auto pilot most people whos occupation is driving eg lorry drivers and taxi drivers and obv boxers when they go into a state of you may say hyper concentration where they are highly trained that there brain subconciously knows what to do in certain situations and just reacts either smartly or couragiously i have experienced this hundreds of time but i am only an amateur boxer and not to the standard of athletes like of muhammed ali, forman, the suagr rays ec
I don't know if was something Ali was "aware" of doing..but he was a master at visualization. Utilizing the great secret of "what you think about..you bring about". Anybody who has watched When We Were Kings remembers him at his hotel room acting out how he would mentally approach going into the ring. A positive version and a negative version. He puts himself into the right frame of mind to be a winner. THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME
Muhammad Ali is somethin else man....what dis guy did inside & out of the ring is jus mind blowing. He Fought Like 30 Elite Fighters LOL jus 2 name a few cooper, foreman, frazier, norton, spinks, bugner, quarry, patterson, liston, bonavena , chuvalo, all these names are all in the boxing hall of fame LOL. & HE FOUGHT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNEMENT FOR 3 YEARS LOL!!!!!!!!!
Muhammad Ali is somethin else man....what dis guy did inside & out of the ring is jus mind blowing. He Fought Like 30 Elite Fighters LOL jus 2 name a few cooper, foreman, frazier, norton, spinks, bugner, quarry, patterson, liston, bonavena , chuvalo, all these names are all in the boxing hall of fame LOL. & HE FOUGHT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNEMENT FOR 3 YEARS LOL!!!!!!!!!
God bless Ali. He was flawed, he had a big mouth, but he lived the dream and still inspires people today. He fried George's ass so bad, the man had grill marks on his ass.
what was ali sayin' to foreman? he was sayin'(and i quote! loosely..) " looky heah! i want you to punch me so hard that people will think i have parkinsons and the guv'ment will give me disability payments!" well- big george accomodated the mouth -and in 2010 -george can say "pass da biscuits" while ali needs someone to wipe the bile from his lips. and that's a fact! who won the fight? who won the war?? foreman grills rock! love ya georgie! thanks for smackin that militant in his haid! justice!
furthermore, foreman looks really like a brick wall, twice as tough as ali, twice as muscular, twice as stronger, truly a mean monster. yet ali, the guy who had no chance, was able to bring foreman down. ali is superhuman. his internal resolve is unparallelled. hence his greatness..
ali was and always will be THE MAN. A TRUE ENIGMA of the human race. the likes of which come along just once in a millenium. i dont think we will ever get to see someone like ali in our lifetimes. what dissapoints me is that this legend is still ALIVE, and we are doing nothing to care for him. i must go and meet him at least once before its too late. ali will be talked about long after he is gone, just like people do now about caeser, alexandra the great etc. and people will just dream..
who the hell is norman mailer?
this fight is a big part of why ali was the greatest imho
eatthisvr6 1 week ago
@eatthisvr6 norman mailer was one of the best novelists of the twentieth century, an amateur boxer when he was young, and a friend of ali's. he was hired by some big magazine and paid a lot of money to cover the fight for them.
zyxquark 6 days ago
Also Norman Mailer is a pretentious douche. Go help let out another killer because you think he's a great writer dumbass. If Mailer, Cossell and Ali got together the amount of ego would blow up everything in a 10 mile radius.
SuperStrik9 1 month ago
@SuperStrik9 Normally, I would tell people who speak ill of the dead that they are wrong to do so...but Mailer was a VERY pretentious asshole.
MIKESOWELL 1 month ago
Ali then went on to duck Foreman for the rest of his career. I wonder why? I'd take a Foreman/Ali 2 over any of Ali's fights after rumble in the jungle. Ali losing to Norton, Spinks, Holmes, and Burbick was nice though.
SuperStrik9 1 month ago
@SuperStrik9
What about the two more fights against Frazier, or his third fight against Ken Norton? Both of them had already beaten Ali, so he still needed redemption there. Those fights were pretty good, wouldn't you say?
rtf3431 1 week ago
I watched this clip several times before I actually watched the entire film, and I had no idea that white haired guy was Norman Mailer. I thought he was some old boxing trainer or fight writer because he sounded like such an authority.
heyaggie 1 month ago
Rocky III. :-)
3912James 1 month ago
Happy birthday Ali!!!
roccoSH5 1 month ago
I spotted no fear in his eye you, old man. thats a steel determination look u r talking about.
nazirdjon 1 month ago
@nazirdjon Shush now.
cahillgreg 1 month ago
Todays boxers are a joke compared to these warriors!
Dizzle7771 1 month ago 2
Go to my channel to watch in HD
damuttz112 1 month ago
it is somewhat misrepresented since he popped George good in the head many times in the inner fight. He was already winning on the inside.
jhgosnell 1 month ago
go to here for the full match in a nice quality /watch?v=55AasOJZzDE
nazirdjon 2 months ago
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nazirdjon 2 months ago
The greatest part about that was the punch he never threw.
IWillAlwaysBeM3 2 months ago
This wasn't the first time by no stretch that Ali threw that right hand lead. In fact alot of pros do it. If you watch Ali throw the one he's talks about Ali actually turns his body to where in that situation the right hand lead is the punch where less distance has to be covered.
dnlgberry 3 months ago
Bitch i'm going to dance.
TheLincoln1980 3 months ago
Desire, conditioning, courage, strength, focus. Thanks for this upload. Im glad to be living, have witnessed a couple of the greatest, and most artistic athletes in that time.
puppet003 4 months ago
Creo que en esa noche, Ali se condecoró como el mejor de todos; estoy seguro que ese 30 de octubre le hubiera ganado a los mejores pesos pesados de todos los tiempos; desde Sullivan hasta Klitschko, pasando por Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Marciano y Tyson.
rbrtdornel 4 months ago
Muhammad Ali vs. George Foreman... George Foreman vs. Muhammad Ali: 37 años de una de las peleas más famosas de la historia del boxeo. Domingo 30 de octubre de 2011.
rbrtdornel 4 months ago
Besides what Ali did here was brilliant, in boxing. He was so ringsmart. Right hand cross, is exactly the punch Foreman was never trained on. No sparring partner would do that, with a big indestructible heavyweight like George.
Ali might do it, and did it in previous fights, in a combination, but nobody would dream of him doing that, witouth a left jab leading it first. It takes not only a great boxingmind, but also guts to do that. Plus his speed helped a lot too.
michaelyouth 4 months ago
George Foreman looked dehydrated, thin and tired here. This fight was fought at 3 in morning in Africa with the whole continent rooting for Ali. I'd b surprised if Foreman's water was even clean. But, Ali won fair. Still, Foreman in Madison Square Garden at a decent hour might have been a different story. He killed all of their common opponents. Foreman murdered Frazier twice before u even got to ur seat.
aitraining 4 months ago
@aitraining It was the same with Floyd Patterson, as Ali explained and the same with Sonny Liston. Liston destroyed Pattersone in one round. Ali fought Patterson twice, for 15 rounds, and never knocked him out. However Ali knocked Sonny Liston out. I's the difference in the style. Frazier's style and height were bad for him. Foreman was not dehydrated. Ali beat him fair and square.So stop posting that on every single Ali video. Did Ali stole your girlfriend or something?
michaelyouth 4 months ago
that stuff about the succubus is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Talk about not wanting to give Ali respect for beating a better, younger and stronger Foreman. At least the other old white guy is much more objective.
khalkar 5 months ago
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jhgosnell 3 months ago
@khalkar have you seen the whole documentary? you should save you subjective comments until you've watched the whole thing
chanm3SU 3 months ago
@khalkar Plimpton was speaking figuratively of the succubus - just like Nina Simone claiming she 'put a spell on' someone. Only a khalkar would take this literally.
cahillgreg 1 month ago
If only fighters today would go at this pace.
julius7651 5 months ago
Ali was 100% speed and maybe 50% power, foreman was 100% power and maybe 40% speed. But I would love to see prime Ali vs prime Tyson because he falls in the middle, around 95% power and 90% speed
roccoSH5 5 months ago
Ali - right-hand lead.....classic
thenorthfacetrek 5 months ago
the greatest without doubt
strong mental
strong physic
the real art with human body
dreamer0509 5 months ago
Ali was a genius...
jhgosnell 5 months ago
allahu akbar!!!
megatron0357 7 months ago
¸What did Ali say to Foreman at the beginning of the fight ?
jonybangcunt123 7 months ago
@jonybangcunt123
"You've been watching me your whole life" and other words to that effect...
FjordFairlane 5 months ago in playlist Boxing
8:34 to 8:36. Ali ducks under a hook stands up then pulls back within millimeters of a second hook. One of the many many reasons why he was, is and always will be the greatest
cascist 7 months ago
And yet George is a really nice guy, and intelligent. I, on the other hand am not so intelligent. I ordered a George Foreman grill from E bay last week and got sent a Playstation 3....Still can´t figure out where to put the T- Bones...
flipinwotsit 7 months ago
Foreman disliked this video 22 times
ColbyLove26 8 months ago
Ali won the fight in the first minute when he cracked Foreman with that right and then when Foreman tried to move inside Ali hit him with a solid left hook. The stage was set in that first minute.
crownedful 8 months ago
when we were kings is extremley motivating and inspiring..even if you dont like boxing..its one of the greatest films of all time
i do like boxing and boxers today couldnt even lace the boots of ali,foreman or frazier..these guys were colossal fighters...the likes of david haye blaming a broken toe for a defeat.frazier fought virtually blind and ali once fought with a broken jaw!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrFitzek 8 months ago
this video is especially joy to watch after you watch the big george humiliating joe frazier
nazirdjon 8 months ago
Ali the Michelangelo of boxing.
aoknponte 9 months ago
when we were kings? more like "the kings of boxing"
chuneya951 10 months ago
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rtf3431 10 months ago
that old man impression of ali is so terrible lol he sounded nothing like that
thekieranstoker12 11 months ago
@thekieranstoker12 umad?!??
jsnpark 8 months ago
@jsnpark yep
thekieranstoker12 8 months ago
@thekieranstoker12
k.
jsnpark 8 months ago
"30 seconds left in round 8"...the world of boxing about to be turned upside down...
davidleealford 11 months ago
ali should of never used the rope a dope, because he permanently ruined his condition, boxing will fuck up your life for good people,
abdi2man 11 months ago
@abdi2man: You don't know what you're talking about. Parkinson's disease is hereditary.
chinopisces 11 months ago
its because of the damage he took when boxing, he should of just outboxed forman instead of letting him punch him up,
abdi2man 11 months ago
@abdi2man i do not think out boxing foreman was an option to be honest. ali woulda got knocked out.
SwimFan1986 11 months ago
@abdi2man i do not think out boxing foreman was an option to be honest. ali woulda got knocked out. the first round is a good example of ali's boxing skills alone(without his ropa dope srategy) not being enough to stop george. foreman was too strong too tough and too much of a heavy hitter to take on directly
SwimFan1986 11 months ago
he should of never agreed to the fight him then, if ali cant knock foreman out by outboxing him then there is no point in fighting the man,
abdi2man 11 months ago
@abdi2man clearly there was a point....he won did he not? to win in boxing skill is not the only factor that should be considered/relied on, a boxer ability to withstand punishment, or being able to wear a fighter who is physically surperior down for example. ali was a strategist, and his skill in this area of fighting is clearly shown in this fight against foreman. plz if you are going to reply, a narrow minded view like yours isnt going to win this argument. also ali did win by KO nuff said
SwimFan1986 11 months ago
bumayeh ali, probs most famous person in the world
abdi2man 11 months ago
1:15 - Mobutu Sese Seko -- a dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of Zairians -- was placed into power by the CIA after the CIA orchestrated the overthrow of democracy in the Congo by assassinating the democratically elected President Patrice Lumumba in 1960.
The United States enjoys telling its population & the world that it goes around spreading democracy. In reality, the United States has enthusiastically supported every dictator & murdering fascist it could find.
bapyou 11 months ago
THUPS UP for the geatest fight ever: bone crushing power vs courage, intelligence and lightening speed.
bomayeah 11 months ago 14
8:15-8:45 gotta be the best 30 seconds worth waiting for hours
nazirdjon 1 year ago
Ali bomaye!
DVG922 1 year ago
without norman mailer the documentary wouldn't be half as great.
constantine4711 1 year ago 42
@constantine4711 You should read his book 'The Fight', one of the best pieces of sports writing ever
DKP4 10 months ago
@DKP4 i have red it. it was great! there's so many behind the scenes details, like the night they went jogging and stuff. i am from greece and i don't understund why you americans rate him so low as a writer. is it because he was so problematic as a person? i think he was a major writer and a great journalist. his book the armies of the the night is a masterpiece.
constantine4711 10 months ago
@constantine4711 Hi there, in fact I am Irish and I rate Norman Mailer very highly! I have not read 'Armies of the Night' but will look out for it, thanks for the tip
DKP4 10 months ago
@constantine4711 but it would have been more accurate.because ali won 6 out of 8 and he presents it like he was destroyed until the witch and the vudu magic brought foreman down.god damn writers always having to dramatisize everything
mskidi 8 months ago
@constantine4711 The greatest writer talking about the greatest athlete. No wonder this is the greatest documentary.
RollerDiscoCraze 7 months ago
Would you have signed-up to be a Foreman sparring partner @ $50 a day ?
JSavic 1 year ago
@JSavic
$50 in 1974 is worth $223 in 2011
MATRlK 1 year ago
Foreman should have just walked back into the center of the ring, evertime that Ali tried to "rope-a-dope" him. That's what Shavers did & gave Ali a real pounding (pissing blood after the fight).
JSavic 1 year ago
how did they manage to make a classic documentary like this and yet give such a distorted view of the fight it s exceptionally lame.ali won straight 5 out of 8 rounds.knock out or not he would have won anyway.this fucking mailer describes a fictional story.fucking writers,they have to dramatise everything.the witch that sucked foreman s power and my ass
mskidi 1 year ago
It is just impossible to reconcile the menacing man Foreman was in those years with the benign and genial person he eventually became.
omnivorous65 1 year ago
Legend.
WhiteRapAttack 1 year ago
Ali was brave...
frank19593 1 year ago
True warriors ! unlike today where one certain fighter fights once every 3 years ! or fights over PISS ! and claims to be the greatest ! HAHA yeah right !
sixfouimpala 1 year ago
never understood norman mailer and his tales of america!
obaidCarkey 1 year ago
Sad thing is when Foreman tried to rematch Ali, Ali avoided him, both boxers tried to make a comeback when they were older, Foreman was much more successful than Ali was when he came back
fezzyness 1 year ago
Ali is the bravest man ever born. Foreman could have slain a dinosaur with his right cross in his prime.
Maxpaineforever 1 year ago 50
@Maxpaineforever ali was very fast but not a heavy puncher he beat forman by using his skill not power, sadly ali would soak up many punches during a bout and would win with speed and skill. but look at the fighters today ali forman frazer were all fantastic formen never really got hurt he is fine but poor ali is not too well frazer and ken norton are not too good. formen on the other hend is fine. dont get me wrong i love ali but this is a sad fact
tomato6999 11 months ago
@tomato6999 I think this response is POINTLESS.
Maxpaineforever 11 months ago
@Maxpaineforever 6.10-6.13 try find a LHW or even middle nowadays never mind a HW that would dare go at that pace ... and in ali's case against a man that was killing ppl in the 2nd -4th round for fun... crazy speed and guts ... ali for me from here after a near 4 year lay off a few year before this , to come back in a ring and beat a man like this with so much power makes him the greatest for me .. tyson really really good but fought bums and did not have this mans heart !! simple
calbo555 8 months ago
@Maxpaineforever BOTH OF THEM ARE CHAMPS!!! GREAT FIGHTERS!!!
UnaDrinaNeretva 8 months ago
@Maxpaineforever and the left jab and the right uppercut and the left hook and the right uppercut and the right hook well you get the picture lol foreman was and probably still is more than capable of knocking the crap out of any boxer that has ever lived
ali was a genius and had speed like a jedi unbeleivable speed imho he is the only boxer who couldve stopped foreman that night he got inside his head. if you could match old foremans head and young physical attributes he wouldve been unstoable
eatthisvr6 7 months ago
lol @ the 21-entitled to opinion but this is history......
owenspud1 1 year ago
Who would've won on Unanimous Decision?
Deebz786 1 year ago
@Deebz786 foreman
04aslamv 1 year ago
this narrator is way too dramatic
truthfulmind 1 year ago
@truthfulmind you are talking about Norman Mailer? Not only is he a phantastic story teller he words describe accurately what was happening. You can test his words against the footage. He describes pure drama, of course he is dramatic.
omnivorous65 1 year ago
@truthfulmind You're right. Let's watch a documentary of a historical fight with people who just sit there with bland expressions on their faces and in their speech for 1.5 to 2 hours. That is much more entertaining.
TheUnseen97 3 weeks ago
ali would've took on any boxer
in the 1960's & 70's
but waste mans like = leon spinks, larry holmes & trevor berbick,,,fought him wen he was old...and u could see ali was old and not sharpe as he was...anyway larry holmes & trevor berbick got there beatings for wah dey done 2 ali,,,by tyson! lol snm
TwixDesigns 1 year ago
he dannced
piratewithbird 1 year ago
Foreman was the strongest man around. Ali was the smartest.
piratewithbird 1 year ago
i used muhammed ali style to whoop a bully at school 6years ago it work! all i could say
MrRuthless90 1 year ago
$5 million on that time......................
GNIKize 1 year ago
clay was fucked up by frazier and frazier fucked up by Foreman!
Foreman is the greatest!
Will84ABA 1 year ago
@Will84ABA But Ali fucked up Foreman, and Fucked up Frazier the next two times. Sorry your opinion not fact, Ali Still the Greatest!
deion152002 1 year ago
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Who would've won on UD?
Deebz786 1 year ago
The greatest man in the history of sports,
The greatest event in sports history,
the greatest communicator in the world with little control.
Muhammad Ali said:
"Four or five boxers who I met
in my career,
if I find a dead end to me to pieces;
but in the ring, where there are rules, are the strongest ...
I'm the biggest "
Maurizio Spagna poetry
Mauriziospag 1 year ago
FOREMAN - ALI...GREAT ATHLETES....GREAT HUMAN BEINGS.9 OUT OF TEN TIMES GEORGE WOULD WIN THAT FIGHT....BUT NOT THAT NIGHT.THAT NIGHT THE SMARTEST GUY WON.
ISPANOS2001 1 year ago
poor goerge, the whole crowd/country was for ali,
It must have made his heart sink, took something out of him.
beeb1421 1 year ago
what a load of crap.ali won 6 out of 8 rounds clearly.rope a dope was not o factor up until the 5 round
mskidi 1 year ago
ali used his intelligence in this fight to overcome george foreman! as mailer points out george was physically stronger but ali applied his brilliant boxing brain along with enormous bravery - to overcome a boxer who had simply demolished all his prevoius opponents with sheer brute force! thats why in my view ali was the greatest..
only sugar ray leonard in my view compares to ali for sheer boxing skill and intelligence in the ring! george was probably the hardest puncher ever incidentally.
davidleigh65 1 year ago
@davidleigh65 So true.
0515524847 1 year ago
To fonzi0was0cool
its ali kumbaye
Not ali bumayey
PSNDMII 1 year ago
what the heck 6:40, isn't that the gay psychiatrist from good will hunting
xRisingForcex 1 year ago 2
@xRisingForcex nope, he's a famous writer but never you mind.
davidleealford 11 months ago
@davidleealford um they are one and the same, thanks for being informed
xRisingForcex 11 months ago
Ali was an athletic genius. Knowing he couldn't match Foremans power, Ali essentially got Foreman to beat himself.
That, or there really was a succubus.
I love the way the myth is referred to by showing the woman doing some kind of performance.
It's actually a little spooky.
tretrioeciii 1 year ago 2
no disrespect 2 ali but had tyson got ali on ropes it wud have been over in the 1st round...
soodanubhav 1 year ago
@soodanubhav he wouldnt rope a dope tyson a prime ali would just run circles around tyson
messier991102 1 year ago
@messier991102 You are a know nothing! Ali, had way more options than Tyson.
Reverendjim1 1 year ago
@messier991102 lol yea ur right, ali isnt stupid. rope a dope on tyson would be really stupid and ali would know that
jasontester3 1 year ago
Ali has too many skills and he was smart enough to know which ones to use and when. I predict that would use speed, reach, and japs and of course trash talk to get Tyson to throwas many punches as possibe to wear him out. he wouldnt use the rope adope or the right hand lead. Tyson style is similar to Fraizer
bomayeah 11 months ago
Ali has too many skills and he was smart enough to know which ones to use and when. I predict that would use speed, reach, and japs and of course trash talk to get Tyson to throwas many punches as possibe to wear him out. he wouldnt use the rope adope or the right hand lead. Tyson style is similar to Fraizer the man Knows when to dance
bomayeah 11 months ago
20 dislikes...There truly are so many morons on this world...The Greatest. Pure and Simple
mcnamai 1 year ago
This is boxing. What's all that crap about a with doctor?
sabihiqbal 1 year ago
@JaYmAdSeXy172 ali, sitting upon the toilet the next day, was slow to explain the feces appearing throughout his urine. moving his gaze away, though still urinating poop, the great man reached out to his newly aquired belt and felt the subtle but significant grooves....slowly....deliberate....careful......but it was, sadly, a broken moment as he started peeing out of his ass... "damn foreman......respect," said the poop urinating, pee deficating world champion.
sychly 1 year ago
somebody writes here on YouTube: " When Giants walked the earth .. "
Yuyo1977 1 year ago
merryhobgoglin you are the man for understending what Ali did in this fight. And hes career
Ali is the best HW ever. For alots o reasons
like handling Foreman in Foreman's peak
like wining Frazier twice
like beating a peak-Liston twice
like destrroying Shawers last 30 seconds when he was old already
like handling Spinks and wining it for the 3 times
like getting up after Frazier's left hook like no one else before.THE BEST
jimiguitar100 1 year ago
A true king
mrmack2067 1 year ago
this is why boxing is the best. MMA never has fights like this.
Smileyfacedkiller 1 year ago 2
@Smileyfacedkiller true, not happened yet to a sport in its infancy......but when's the last time the long standing boxing did anything remotely close to this? ......one's lost the marvel and another is giving it a try.
sychly 1 year ago
Ali was so freakin brilliant.
LEDANCETHERAPY 1 year ago
Ali proved beyond any shadow of doubt boxing is a thinking man's game. Not only was he the fastest and most accurate heavyweight ever, he was the smartest. Foreman had no idea what was about to happen to him. He got WORKED.
frankdrebin 1 year ago 2
@frankdrebin Boxing IS NOT a thinking man's game. Gimme a f-n break. How many MENSA or highly educated men do you see in boxing? Boxing is a tough S.o.B's game.
JohnLeeMD 1 year ago
@JohnLeeMD Boxing is very technical, and thought out when performed by people who actually train it. Even the training is thought out extensively, if a boxer trains incorrectly for another boxers type of fighting style he risks the fight. If a boxer goes into the ring with his chin in the air hands down and running at his opponent without thinking or technique, it wouldnt matter how tough he was he would get KO'd. NO you dont just need to be tough in martial arts you need technique and strength
shuriken86 1 year ago
@shuriken86 Technical doesn't mean "thinking man's game". You can give Bill Gates the best training in the world; he ain't gonna be a good boxer.
Poker is a thinking man's game for example. Boxing does not qualify; sorry chief.
JohnLeeMD 1 year ago
@JohnLeeMD It doesnt matter what the word technical means. From experience of actually training, from hearing my coaches, and from experience in facing another person in a match wether it be Boxing, Kickboxing, Jiu Jitsu,, Karate, Judo, yes they do require thinking. Let me give an example you're Kickboxing, ur opponent likes to throw Power punches with his left, you have to tell yourself stay calm, finally u notice he leaves the body unguarded u realize the quickest counter is a body kick.
shuriken86 1 year ago
@JohnLeeMD
What a nit picker.
whatazhar 1 year ago
@JohnLeeMD boxing is a different kind of intelligence, almost an intuition that comes experience, mental and physical focus as well as natural smarts (like bill gates has) - why is that not obvious to you?
And please don't mention poker in a boxing conversation, a game (not sport, sorry espn2) primarily played by underachieving fat guys who play better the drunker they get - now run along
mollkatles 1 year ago
@mollkatles I'm not gonna argue this point anymore. You are flat-out stupid if you think boxing is a "thinking man's game." It is a sport for tough, talented people, which I certainly can appreciate. But to say it's a thinking man's game... that would be like saying poker (sticking with the example) is a sport. Obviously it's not a sport.
You don't have to be smart to box. You DO have to be smart, to be good (win) at poker. Poker is a thinking man's game. Boxing is not. Now GTFOOH, dumb$hit.
JohnLeeMD 1 year ago
@JohnLeeMD Boxing is not a sport? what planet are you from? so poker obviously is a sport then? poker,a game which is decided by 90% luck,also you have to be in peak fitness to play poker eh?
krisstruss 1 year ago
@krisstruss See--here is an example of a stupid idiot. Learn how to read dummy. When you do, you'll see in the 2nd line, I said "It (boxing) is a sport..." At the end of the paragraph, I talk about poker, and saying it's obviously not a sport. durrrr
JohnLeeMD 1 year ago
@JohnLeeMD im so sorry,i bow to your superior intellect,but listen,poker is 90% luck and 10% skill,with a boxer its the other way around,i would rather rely on skill than luck anyday.
krisstruss 1 year ago
@JohnLeeMD - I'm not saying people are taking an Ivy League education and seeing how far in boxing that degree will take them, what i am saying is that boxing, like virtually all other life activities rewards intelligence, Ali, SRL, Foreman etc.
That fact is often lost on sedintary, overweight,poker playing non athletes. Now, since it is a beautiful day out, why don't you go and lock yourself inside a small room that reeks of cigars and fat-guy b.o. and play an intellectual game of cards
mollkatles 1 year ago
@mollkatles It's been said that athletes, when they are competing,are thinking with their bodies. It's a concept non athletes simply cannot fathom.
tretrioeciii 1 year ago
@tretrioeciii yes some people call it auto pilot most people whos occupation is driving eg lorry drivers and taxi drivers and obv boxers when they go into a state of you may say hyper concentration where they are highly trained that there brain subconciously knows what to do in certain situations and just reacts either smartly or couragiously i have experienced this hundreds of time but i am only an amateur boxer and not to the standard of athletes like of muhammed ali, forman, the suagr rays ec
TheScottishchamp01 1 year ago
@frankdrebin Really? These days Foreman still has his brain functioning and Ali's is oatmeal.
manco82 5 months ago
@manco82 Because Ali hung on way too long after that. But that night he was the smarter fighter.
frankdrebin 5 months ago
Ali was god of gods in probably the most talented boxing era.
mraw23jevansj 1 year ago
I don't know if was something Ali was "aware" of doing..but he was a master at visualization. Utilizing the great secret of "what you think about..you bring about". Anybody who has watched When We Were Kings remembers him at his hotel room acting out how he would mentally approach going into the ring. A positive version and a negative version. He puts himself into the right frame of mind to be a winner. THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME
ZZAAN84 1 year ago
Muhammad Ali is somethin else man....what dis guy did inside & out of the ring is jus mind blowing. He Fought Like 30 Elite Fighters LOL jus 2 name a few cooper, foreman, frazier, norton, spinks, bugner, quarry, patterson, liston, bonavena , chuvalo, all these names are all in the boxing hall of fame LOL. & HE FOUGHT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNEMENT FOR 3 YEARS LOL!!!!!!!!!
snkammar2 1 year ago
@snkammar2 And he won his fight with the government!
tretrioeciii 1 year ago
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@snkammar2 best comment, man!
Muhammad Ali is somethin else man....what dis guy did inside & out of the ring is jus mind blowing. He Fought Like 30 Elite Fighters LOL jus 2 name a few cooper, foreman, frazier, norton, spinks, bugner, quarry, patterson, liston, bonavena , chuvalo, all these names are all in the boxing hall of fame LOL. & HE FOUGHT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNEMENT FOR 3 YEARS LOL!!!!!!!!!
nazirdjon 1 year ago
God bless Ali. He was flawed, he had a big mouth, but he lived the dream and still inspires people today. He fried George's ass so bad, the man had grill marks on his ass.
klinepatsy 1 year ago
what was ali sayin' to foreman? he was sayin'(and i quote! loosely..) " looky heah! i want you to punch me so hard that people will think i have parkinsons and the guv'ment will give me disability payments!" well- big george accomodated the mouth -and in 2010 -george can say "pass da biscuits" while ali needs someone to wipe the bile from his lips. and that's a fact! who won the fight? who won the war?? foreman grills rock! love ya georgie! thanks for smackin that militant in his haid! justice!
packinman1 1 year ago
Please does anyone know what was Ali saying to Foreman during the introduction ?
deadmanwalkingify 1 year ago
@deadmanwalkingify during the intro Ali said "You'ver read about me, heard about me since you were a little boy, now meet me your MASTER!!:
davidleealford 1 year ago
i cant believe that i watched this for 10 mins and the best bit had a stupid witch woman in the way!!!!
dangerdave059 1 year ago
I loved Ali at time time, and I was so scared he was going to get destroyed by Foreman.
nitramgnal 1 year ago
Muhammad Ali is a legend, he was so great during this fight, awesome just unbelievable!!!
Cemal7791 1 year ago
Mailer, that wasn't fucking fear in Ali's eyes before rd 2, it was supreme mental strength and confidence from a man who knew he had George's number.
My god, don't you know anything about the great man? He relished this, loved it, it was his high to get in there and tame the beast
GOATAli 1 year ago
muhhamad ali vs fedor emilienko
WarBob56565 1 year ago
foreman should have won, but he got too desperate to kill him :S
WilliamTheSilverBack 1 year ago
@WilliamTheSilverBack if foreman should have won, he would have won.
Jsnowboard 1 year ago 3
@Jsnowboard good
WilliamTheSilverBack 1 year ago
Muhammed Ali wrote his name in the history books that night! Legends never Die!
iaintmadatcha 1 year ago
this was how many years after ali's prime?
sexcguyedwin 1 year ago
age is just a number i mean ask randy couture 46 years old still dominates younger fighters with unheard of stamina and strenght and game plan
MegaMma4life 1 year ago
furthermore, foreman looks really like a brick wall, twice as tough as ali, twice as muscular, twice as stronger, truly a mean monster. yet ali, the guy who had no chance, was able to bring foreman down. ali is superhuman. his internal resolve is unparallelled. hence his greatness..
fonzi0was0cool 1 year ago 30
@fonzi0was0cool Plus, Ali was getting old, Foreman was in his prime.
carmodifire 11 months ago
ali was and always will be THE MAN. A TRUE ENIGMA of the human race. the likes of which come along just once in a millenium. i dont think we will ever get to see someone like ali in our lifetimes. what dissapoints me is that this legend is still ALIVE, and we are doing nothing to care for him. i must go and meet him at least once before its too late. ali will be talked about long after he is gone, just like people do now about caeser, alexandra the great etc. and people will just dream..
fonzi0was0cool 1 year ago 3
8:55 has to be one of the greatest over hand rights ever thrown...gee what a punch
4milfordroad 1 year ago
@4milfordroad pffff, no way
Haassan1 1 year ago
hahaha, Foreman looks so funny as Ali throws his last shots. Like in comedys or cartoons.
jimiguitar100 2 years ago
wooonderful!
Jate0000 2 years ago
nice fight ..excellent quality of the capture..thanks :)
khaledmazhar 2 years ago
that is a good fight : )
StopSexualUrges 2 years ago