And honestly, I find it disgusting so many girls are okay with this, even after smacking the jerk. This is harassment and it's never okay--this crappy behavior can lead to a multitude of other worse things in a relationship.
@lolitaglitter I think that it would have been different back then.
I'm not trying to pretentious or wise-beyond-my-years, but it seems that back then this wouldn't have been such a huge issue, because woment were seemingly treated in that manner in general, anyway. I wouldn't put it down to women being 'okay' with it, but 'used' to it. I think it's disgusting, but I think part of the point of this scene was to outline exactly HOW different times were. I still want to hit him, though.
WTF? I don't watch this show, and i don't know how accurate this is a depiction of what things were like for women in offices back then, but it seems almost as bad (if not in some ways worse) than a slave-master relationship. And people are nostalgic for those times? I bet women aren't 9unless they are suffering from Stockholm syndrome).
@Dmacho78 That's you're opinion, but you're wrong. Not all women are. If you think that applies to all women, you haven't seen nearly enough of the world.
@Sei1863 How can an opinion be wrong ? If I'm wrong, than come up with your theory as to why this particular scene has your panties in a bunch. If you don't know why you find this scene so sexy than you can't really say, with any certainty, that I'm wrong can you ?
Maybe, deep down, you like being dominated by a man, but (since you're a feminist) you're ashamed of it.
@Dmacho78 Christ, you are so insecure. This has nothing to do with me. I was making a joke. There's no shame involved here. But you're so insecure about your masculinity that you have to use MY comment to reinforce your flaccid ego? You're obviously a weak, pathetic, half-man who women don't find attractive. Your desperate user name could have told me that. Not all women like being dominated. MY panties are not part of the question here, YOURS are. Loser.
@Sei1863 LOL, I'm right, you do like being dominated by a man, and you're also ashamed if it judging by your emotional response. It's also obvious that your feminist ideals are conflicting with your feminine instincts. You can't stand that I'm illuminating this fact, can you ?
FYI, my user name is comprised of the first letter of my first name, three letters of my middle name, two letters of my last name, and the year of my birth.
@Dmacho78 Wow, you are so delusional. You're projecting some kind of sick fantasy onto me. I'm not ashamed of anything, I'm entirely comfortable with what turns me on, I never said I was ashamed of finding dominance attractive. I find submission equally attractive. My only point is that you were generalizing. YOU are the one you made this about me. You must really need to get laid.
@Sei1863 You didn't have to say that you were ashamed. Your reaction was tells it all as well as your insults which is typical of most women when they're getting owned. If you were entirely comfortable, you wouldn't have reacted the way you did.
You need to get a grip, and be more original with your insults next time.
So the message is that that is the way things were in the horrible, backward early 1960s. Wrong! That behavior was far *less* acceptable than it would be today. This isn't a documentary, people.
It's 1960 in this scene. Women were still primarily submissive. Alot changed by the end of the 60's. It was a decade of tremendous social & family upheaval.
Because its set in the 60s this show can do what other shows cant do anymore, but when they do the bad stuff, like this scene, its always with irony......
it's not done in "irony," it's done to show how ridiculous this time period was and how it led up to things like the feminist movement and the civil rights movement. remember, those things are only a few years away and you can clearly see how their world goes from this shit to something completely different.
If it was made in the 60s it would NOT have been done with irony, but because it was made recently it knows that 'the meaning 'and the' intended meaning' are poles apart. e.g. IRONY.
Still, Ken is quite a character. Sensitive writer, pandering account exec, and boor all in one. Yet, it's amazing but it is touching when he holds his arm out to his panty chase victim... What an amazing show and characters, eh?
Every time I see Mad Men, I always feel the directors are making a point. I know HBO has a history of taking different perspectives of life (generation kill, big love) and show it untainted, but particularly scenes like this make it obvious that times have changed very much.
@csandersen you totally hit the nail on the head. women, people of color, and members of the lgbt community (basically anyone who isn't a straight male), REALLY wish work was "fun" like this again. don't you wish you could openly sexually harass someone and get away with it? ah, the good old days.
@DeathLetter94 well in this scene she was holding his arm as they walked away so I wouldn't define that as sexual harassment. My point was there are a lot of things we cannot do now bcz someone will be offended and we will get fired or a lawsuit
In what realm does that not get a dude kicked in the nuts, sued, or both?
thedeityofthemind93 2 months ago
Is marge in other episodes?
Tacksaam 2 months ago
Ahhh the good old days.
PoundTownBrodom 3 months ago
And honestly, I find it disgusting so many girls are okay with this, even after smacking the jerk. This is harassment and it's never okay--this crappy behavior can lead to a multitude of other worse things in a relationship.
lolitaglitter 4 months ago
@lolitaglitter I think that it would have been different back then.
I'm not trying to pretentious or wise-beyond-my-years, but it seems that back then this wouldn't have been such a huge issue, because woment were seemingly treated in that manner in general, anyway. I wouldn't put it down to women being 'okay' with it, but 'used' to it. I think it's disgusting, but I think part of the point of this scene was to outline exactly HOW different times were. I still want to hit him, though.
willkillyoulast 3 months ago
I'd file harassment. Dickhead.
lolitaglitter 4 months ago
Tap A to tackle.
CGoodwinMason 4 months ago
Your lying cosgrove, we checked the purchase records, that women does not own any blue panties.
opo736 4 months ago 5
I wouldn't let anyone else but Ken do this... <3
stebbiwebbie 4 months ago
I'd punch him in the face and then I'd giggle.
faggotgumdrops 5 months ago
I would break his nose.Crush his balls.After he go the idea,I would probably ask him out,he´s cute.
bawoman 5 months ago
HE IS HOT !!!
theciaram1 5 months ago
If it were ANYONE other than Cosgrove did that to me, I'd kill 'em. But since it's him.... ;)
operaticxingenue 5 months ago 2
Such a gentlemen
AndreasZimmerman 5 months ago
FLO!! That's the FLO from progressive!
Violinboy2 6 months ago 2
Cole Phelps what are you doing!?
MrLusciousmeat 7 months ago 4
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WTF? I don't watch this show, and i don't know how accurate this is a depiction of what things were like for women in offices back then, but it seems almost as bad (if not in some ways worse) than a slave-master relationship. And people are nostalgic for those times? I bet women aren't 9unless they are suffering from Stockholm syndrome).
Analysta654 7 months ago
Disturbingly, I somehow get the feeling that he could have raped her in front of them and they would just idiotically laugh it off!
xyPERSON 9 months ago 13
@xyPERSON i completely agree lol!!!
mchudi91 9 months ago
I love this show! Man I'm so glad man don't do that stuff now!!!!
judetunes1 11 months ago
gosh that was sexist
Prof16440 1 year ago
I'm a feminist... why do I find this so sexy!?
Sei1863 1 year ago 2
@Sei1863 women are attracted to dominance whether they're feminist or not.
Dmacho78 1 year ago
@Dmacho78 That's you're opinion, but you're wrong. Not all women are. If you think that applies to all women, you haven't seen nearly enough of the world.
Sei1863 1 year ago 2
@Sei1863 How can an opinion be wrong ? If I'm wrong, than come up with your theory as to why this particular scene has your panties in a bunch. If you don't know why you find this scene so sexy than you can't really say, with any certainty, that I'm wrong can you ?
Maybe, deep down, you like being dominated by a man, but (since you're a feminist) you're ashamed of it.
Dmacho78 1 year ago
@Dmacho78 Christ, you are so insecure. This has nothing to do with me. I was making a joke. There's no shame involved here. But you're so insecure about your masculinity that you have to use MY comment to reinforce your flaccid ego? You're obviously a weak, pathetic, half-man who women don't find attractive. Your desperate user name could have told me that. Not all women like being dominated. MY panties are not part of the question here, YOURS are. Loser.
Sei1863 1 year ago
@Sei1863 LOL, I'm right, you do like being dominated by a man, and you're also ashamed if it judging by your emotional response. It's also obvious that your feminist ideals are conflicting with your feminine instincts. You can't stand that I'm illuminating this fact, can you ?
FYI, my user name is comprised of the first letter of my first name, three letters of my middle name, two letters of my last name, and the year of my birth.
Dmacho78 1 year ago
@Dmacho78 Wow, you are so delusional. You're projecting some kind of sick fantasy onto me. I'm not ashamed of anything, I'm entirely comfortable with what turns me on, I never said I was ashamed of finding dominance attractive. I find submission equally attractive. My only point is that you were generalizing. YOU are the one you made this about me. You must really need to get laid.
Sei1863 1 year ago
@Sei1863 You didn't have to say that you were ashamed. Your reaction was tells it all as well as your insults which is typical of most women when they're getting owned. If you were entirely comfortable, you wouldn't have reacted the way you did.
You need to get a grip, and be more original with your insults next time.
Dmacho78 1 year ago
@Sei1863 women are attracted to dominance whether they're feminists or not.
Dmacho78 1 year ago
Peggy is so brilliant and ahead of her time
brixton92 1 year ago 3
the good old days...ahhh
mbb72 1 year ago 2
the 50's were cooler than i thought.
redhairmarimo 1 year ago 4
Who knew sexual assault could get you a date
20MrBigmac 1 year ago
My favourite episode of the season by far.
Pepotamo1985 1 year ago
:30 is where i brake his nose!
avalon2468 1 year ago
Please vote for me! I could win a guest spot on Mad Men!!!...which you know, would be a dream come true sort of thing.
madmencastingcall.amctv.com/browse/detail/IDF4E5
jessemee 1 year ago
Oh please. Like anyone would every literally CHASE someone at work.
TrixieBelaire 1 year ago
its the progressive lady!!!!
bolojr 1 year ago
A lot of women wouldn't take that, even then.
toughcrowd94 1 year ago 5
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@toughcrowd94
"A lot of women wouldn't take that, even then."
Yeah for sure, man I always thought if you even got remotely fresh back in the day you'd get smacked.
patio87 1 year ago
WTF WAS THAT?!?!?!?
choperchic24 1 year ago
it's the Progressive Insurance lady! ha
zeecee1 1 year ago
News flash! They still are pigs. The only difference is women get to be pigs too.
sneha1965 1 year ago 6
Wow Alexa Alemanni is soooooooooo hot
kidburla 2 years ago
Progressive Girl in her finnest role.
spacestate 2 years ago
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i'd of fucked the shit outt'a that bitch on the floor in front of everyone while they threw in dollar bills. W00t!!!
n1663r 2 years ago
So the message is that that is the way things were in the horrible, backward early 1960s. Wrong! That behavior was far *less* acceptable than it would be today. This isn't a documentary, people.
kenp3L 2 years ago
Are you friggin kidding me!?!? I would love to try that tactic on some of the 'boys' in my office.
mikabish 2 years ago 3
That's the progressive lady from those annoying commercials.
HtownBravo 2 years ago
wow they things that men get away with in there treatment of women.
fleurgi 2 years ago 3
It's 1960 in this scene. Women were still primarily submissive. Alot changed by the end of the 60's. It was a decade of tremendous social & family upheaval.
HINCHCLIFFE69 2 years ago 4
That's why Republicans hate the Sixties. They liked it when men were allowed to be racist, sexist pigs.
Genessender 2 years ago 3
dont you miss it?
bayzeratti 1 year ago
@Genessender EXACTLY.
coyotesong 1 year ago
Because its set in the 60s this show can do what other shows cant do anymore, but when they do the bad stuff, like this scene, its always with irony......
ketchupwitheverythin 2 years ago 2
it's not done in "irony," it's done to show how ridiculous this time period was and how it led up to things like the feminist movement and the civil rights movement. remember, those things are only a few years away and you can clearly see how their world goes from this shit to something completely different.
rumblegirl 2 years ago 6
If it was made in the 60s it would NOT have been done with irony, but because it was made recently it knows that 'the meaning 'and the' intended meaning' are poles apart. e.g. IRONY.
ketchupwitheverythin 2 years ago
did that could actually had happend?? omg soo sad in a way... so primitive... and kind of funny!! mix emotions...
anileda1116 2 years ago
haha i'd punch him in the face....
moonshinevessel 2 years ago 31
What is that song?! I've had such difficulty finding it!
calendargirl89 3 years ago
Gopher by Yme Sumac
goodhelen 2 years ago 2
@goodhelen THANKS a lot!
MrMephisto89 1 year ago
i love that mad men doesn't hide the truth about these things. to think it happened back then-yeesh.
lostpinguin 3 years ago 6
Marge is Flo in the Progressive Insurance ads. "I say it louder."
NJtoTX 3 years ago
"Don't go...It's going to be fun."
Still, Ken is quite a character. Sensitive writer, pandering account exec, and boor all in one. Yet, it's amazing but it is touching when he holds his arm out to his panty chase victim... What an amazing show and characters, eh?
regertz 3 years ago
Every time I see Mad Men, I always feel the directors are making a point. I know HBO has a history of taking different perspectives of life (generation kill, big love) and show it untainted, but particularly scenes like this make it obvious that times have changed very much.
danthemango 3 years ago
lol.. marge looks better as flo in the progressive commercials
PeopleNotTalking 3 years ago
If this happened today, it would be sexual harassment.
erasms2002 3 years ago 2
really?!
xtinct2 3 years ago
if this happened today, it would result in a swift kick in the groin.
freshPrincess626 3 years ago 61
That would be the tip of the iceberg... Lawsuit anyone? Immediate firing!
DaylightRobberyCA 2 years ago 4
@freshPrincess626 also known as a "sexual harassment lawsuit"? Or in addition to that, a sexual harassment lawsuit?
AkatoshVivec 1 year ago
...and a lawsuit.
macunaima 1 year ago
@freshPrincess626
or a swift firing
yearsOld1 8 months ago
@freshPrincess626 that's why everyone loves this show, because work isn't interesting or fun like this anymore
csandersen 7 months ago
@csandersen you totally hit the nail on the head. women, people of color, and members of the lgbt community (basically anyone who isn't a straight male), REALLY wish work was "fun" like this again. don't you wish you could openly sexually harass someone and get away with it? ah, the good old days.
DeathLetter94 1 month ago
@DeathLetter94 well in this scene she was holding his arm as they walked away so I wouldn't define that as sexual harassment. My point was there are a lot of things we cannot do now bcz someone will be offended and we will get fired or a lawsuit
csandersen 1 month ago
@freshPrincess626 That's if your lucky; This smells like sexual harassment all over.
Hotmonkeylovin 3 months ago
Where the fuck is my time machine!!!!!!!!
micjuslin 3 years ago 3
so hot
title26 3 years ago
oh my god
perverted
biancabrezze1 3 years ago 5
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I can imagine a place where that is normal and funny.
It would be awesome
TylerPolimeno 3 years ago
this clip makes me cringe! eeesh!!! can you imagine living in a time where THAT is normal and funny?
i love this show and can't wait for season 2!
gerrysgirl1980 3 years ago 10
elisabeth moss is the best!!!!
corgi27 4 years ago 7