judgment at nuremberg verdict

[pissoutmyasssful]

Germany has so much to make up for.

[daert1]

@6666alireza so the CIA can time travel, nice.

[catothewiser]

Put the Jews on trial for their attempts to wipe out the Whites.

[daert1]

@catothewiser how? With their being victimized by most of Europe for two freaking millennia?

[MrAchilles1984]

denny crane, he was there... 

[TOLTECAAZTECA]

For crimes against humanity George Bush:::::Found guilty.For conspiracy to committed murder,George Bush::::Found guilty.For criminal association and for war crimes ,Donald Rumsfeld::::Found Guilty.For murdering of little lives in the middle east George Bush,Donald Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice::::Found guilty.

[gigmaster222]

@TOLTECAAZTECA 

[pussypop100]

@TOLTECAAZTECA and dont forget that cunt tony blair

[TOLTECAAZTECA]

@pussypop100 Agreed!!!!!

[bobinobaker]

Spencer Tracy einer der besten und beindruckensden Schauspieler des alte Hollywood....

[DoBrigh]

When you send in a bunch of troops and start rounding people up, after having threatened the elected leaders of a state, that is not 'annexation', that is 'attack'. War was declared upon Germany because they were slaughtering Polish civilians by the thousands, unprovoked, and Britan was allied to Poland- if Hitler didn't want to fight England he shouldnt have attacked their ally Poland. Then the 'phony war' came- nobody did anything until German non-defensively attacked the lowlands.

[mdoherty9188]

SHATNER!

[Johollister]

hang on, is that William Shatner at the beginning ?

[AnarchoFeminist]

The supplementary trials were administeed by individual nations, primarily the US.

[steveox1961]

I Dont think its fair these men should been executed when the Bush regime did the same thing at gitmo bay.

[bradford71us]

@steveox1961 if you listen closely....the nuremburg verdict simply ELIMINATES the validity of ANY government. ALL governments legitimize murder in SOME form or another. this is the power of the verdict. the full implications of this arent yet even fully grasped.

[bradford71us]

pay attention to what is said here. the verdict of this trial means that ALL SOLDIERS are guilty. if you are a soldier and you kill someone you are a MURDERER and not at all justified...in ANY way. this includes GOVERNMENT in any form. the fate of this man is the fate of all soldiers, all bureaucrats, all government officials.

[olisquercio]

is he talking about bush and blair? cause it sure seems like it!

[mbrookfi]

a great movie which unfortutunately is only too applicable to some of the current actions of the US government. 'It is not fascism when we do it!'

[Gravelandart]

These men were innocent. Please think, it's true.

[daert1]

@Gravelandart as a descendant of one of the men that liberated the Nazi death camps, who listened to the haunted voice of a man who saw first hand the monstrous tortures inflicted upon millions of Jews, Gypsies, Poles, Communists, Political dissidents, and countless others. The deaths of German civilians, although terrible, were a necessity forced upon us by the inhuman madness of the Reich. NEVER AGAIN!

[Gravelandart]

@daert1 -- descendants of specious fairy tales and distortions doesn't make fantasy real. There is no evidence of "monstrous tortures"----get over it.

[daert1]

@Gravelandart yes, and the gas chambers and crematoriums at Auschwitz aren't still there, the HUNDREDS of photos of starved and brutalized victims were all doctored, and the survivors are all liars with odd tattoos. Please do research before making your asinine claims.

[royalsteven]

This movie was so Hollywoodized and boring. A new one should be made. Stephen King or Hitchcock would have done a better job.

[suutari13]

the biggest evidence for the holy holoco$t is hollywood movies.

[RozitaVideo]

@suutari13 I'd say the Nazis did a fine job of filming it themselves. You are obviously very ignorant by choice, an important aspect of being a bigot.

[suutari13]

@RozitaVideo

shabetz goi what are you referring to. There is no NAZI footage of any gas chambers, mass graves, gas vans, stream chambers, soap factories, human lampshades,, electrocution belts, mass shootings.

Don't believe the jewish owned msm, education system etc. Do your own RESEARCH!

TRUTH DOES NOT NEED THE PROTECTION OF LAWS AND COURTS

[RozitaVideo]

@suutari13 And no, I suppose that Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau...all of those death camps and crematoriums aren't still standing? That there are not tons of records kept by the Nazis themselves documenting their atrocities?

Please tell me something. What started this fight thousands of years ago?

[bradford71us]

@RozitaVideo fact is....no one knows how many people died. nazi records were not accurate by any means. its a lie to say X number of jews died. its also a lie to say it never happened. it DID happen, but no one knows, nor will ever know, exactly how many people died or jews were killed. thats all propaganda.

[bradford71us]

@suutari13 there is plenty of physical evidence, film footage and witnesses. no question about that. of course the 'winners' have manipulated history for their own sake. this youre right about, but these things did happen and are very real. there IS nazi footage....while uncommon....it does exist. obviously they didnt often film themselves gassing jews!! why would they do that? HOW could they do that?

[bradford71us]

@suutari13 no...there is nazi footage of all of this. the nazis perfected film in fact and took a lot of it. i can even show you where to BUY some of this stuff you mention. footage is easily found here.

[suutari13]

@bradford71us

Ok lets have the links or places where to buy these Nazi films about gas chambers.

[bradford71us]

@suutari13 at THAT time no one called it a 'holocaust'...but it was certainly that. what people forget is that homosexuals, communists, old people and other minorities were ALSO gassed. so its NOT JEWISH. they were just one minority killed. ....a main one for very good reasons. the dislike of the jews was not entirely unjustified. the germans didnt randomly pick out THAT minority. they had reasons SOME small bit of that criticism was very true. jewish influence in germany was very great.

[bradford71us]

@DoBrigh i guess youre german....likely a younger german. ? did you know that germany has more social welfare for ex-concentration camp victims than any other country? israel is the WORST. some jews even immigrate from israel TO germany for this reason. americans dont understand how fresh that war STILL is for the european peoples. the jewish people in germany, and eastern europe keep a low profile these days. NEO_naziism is still very much alive there.

[DoBrigh]

@bradford71us may i suggest you read 'the destruction of the european jews' by hillenberg and 'rise and fall of the third reich' by shirer?.

[bradford71us]

@DoBrigh already know em. whats your point?...or, rather, what specific arguments i make do you disagree with?

[bradford71us]

@DoBrigh already know em. whats your point?...or, rather, what specific arguments i make do you disagree with? id like to point out that naziism was a reaction to COMMUNISM, NOT Judaism. there certainly was an attempt at a type of genocide, but it was not restricted to jewish people. the historical truth isnt one way or the other...its in between those. history goes to the victor.

[DoBrigh]

@bradford71us i'm sorry but there is a massive mountain of evidence that disagrees with your premise. you can read everything from Nazi Census by Aly and Roth to the interviews with Hitler's own secretary, to the Brothers Himmler by Katrin Himmler (which quote Himmler's own notebooks), to Mein Kampf itself, to any biography of Heydrich. they all paint the same picture and it's not the one you are painting.

[bradford71us]

@DoBrigh youre not clarifying your counter argument. what 'picture am i painting?". what alternative picture do you suggest those sources propose? facts: a lot of people were killed, national socialism is a reaction against communism, other people besides jews were in concentration camps in mass numbers, jewish people owned a large amount of german economy in that era. which of those facts do you disagree with?? to understand the 2nd world war you must understand the 1st world war.

[DoBrigh]

@bradford71us the picture you are painting is that nazis rose up to defend germany against communist aggression and the jews who caused hyperinflation and the depression. there are vast oceans of evidence that contradict all of those premises, tens of thousands of times over. they can be found in the books that i have listed. the only place you find arguments like the one you are using are in the lunatic ravings of nazis like Himmler and Hitler

[bradford71us]

@DoBrigh national socialism was a reaction to communism. thats clear in any NS philosophy. i didnt say jews caused hyperinflation or the depression. i said that they had strong economic influence in germany in that era. thats true. why do you think jewish people were used as scapegoats? at random? if you wanna make the whole thing black and white then youre badly mistaken. germany attacked russia....thats a fact. it did NOT attack england or america. nazi germany was a civilized country.

[DoBrigh]

@bradford71us you can read 'vanguard of nazism' and observe very clearly that national socialism grew up around the same time as communism, and shared some of the same ideals (the 'socialist' part) quite literally, especially the 'ernst roehm' wing of the nazi party. furthermore many of the 'old fighters' of the 20s went back and forth between the 'red', 'anarchist', and 'fascist' camps, whoever would feed them or give them something to shoot at, partly due to the massive PTSD from world war i

[DoBrigh]

@bradford71us you say that jews had a strong economic influence in germany during the period of hyperinflation and depression. this is an argument straight out of mein kampf or himmler's diaries. jews were not persecuted because they had any special responsibility for economic problems. they were persecuted because of something called 'racism' which is endemic to every society, but was molded and refined by the nazis and formed the foundation of their political philosophy.

[DoBrigh]

germany attacked Poland, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Russia, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Holland, France, and several other countries. They burned libraries and they bombed cities of countries that had not attacked them. They attacked England directly and killed thousands of people. Germany tried to attack america through saboteurs, and it's ally Japan directly attacked America's territories, namely Hawaii and the Aleutian Islands and elsewhere.

[bradford71us]

@DoBrigh nope. review your history. prior to war being declared against them they only attacked poland. austria was annexed, so was PART of Czech. AFTER war was declared against them they did attack. be clear about the rules of warfare. if a country declares war on you and THEN you attack them then thats NOT initial aggression. also do not forget that japan, italy and finland were allied to the nazis, forcing them to act under pacts made with germany. hitler never wanted to fight england.

[B3boy]

9/11 TRIAL TO BEGIN SOON - same punishment for as far as we have to go to the top, the QUEEN included and not to exclude the POPE and the OWNERS of corporate America, Inc. and their presidential KISS ASSES!

[thenovascotia20]

THOSE BASTARDS SHOULD ALL BEEN HUNG

[bradford71us]

@thenovascotia20 then you are the same as them. youre missing the whole point of the trials to say that. WATCH IT AGAIN.

[Henrique70darthSith]

Original name for the case is not "Judgement of Nuremberg"

Is "Internacional Military Tribunal Vs Hermann Göring"

I just talking for talking, I reed in some were...........

[ThePanzerWarMachine]

The Fact that the Media quietly forgets to tell you is that the Real Judges and Laywers were jews. All of them.

[jrwel14]

What Spencer said, A big thumbs up!

[rhoadsfan777]

holy shat!! is that shitner! shatner lol

[Achilles1389]

The "Allied judges" were composed of members of the Victorious American/British & Soviet powers. Now lets take a look at the righteous record of those 3 nations/empires. The Americans - Firebombing Tokyo & 2 atom bombs on Japan (expedient since invasion would have cost too many US lives) The British (Firebombing Dresden & other cities) the Soviets (Exterminating 20-60 million Soviet & Eastern European civilians) - The USA/UK/Soviets where in no moral position to judge the Nazis- pure propaganda

[jrwel14]

@Achilles1389 Pure propaganda? As in Goebbels saying,"We made the reich on Propaganda." If, it was the allies being tried in the Nazis courts. They would have been hunged the first day. As Tracy said to Lancaster in the movie. Not exact but close. "You were a part of the problem the first time you sent someone to jail. You knew to be innocent."The Germans firebombed London in 1940. The nazis would have used atomic weapons if they had them. Nazis exterminated millions as well.

[hammet11]

@Achilles1389 True, but the Japanese did horrendous things to the Chinese and the Nazis were also brutal to their POW's and and others. But, this trial was a reality, and we only have our lifetime to set right to wrongs.....in theory.

[daert1]

@Achilles1389 invasion of Japan would have likely resulted in the deaths of MOST of the Japanese population. The civilians there had been constantly trained to kill themselves rather than surrender. It took the Emperor himself telling them to stand down in order to end the war.

[campbra]

Nazis and George W. Bush, who is the worst?

If UN not prosecute George W. Bush now, UN does not have moral authority to prosecute anyone in the future.

Prosecute George W. Bush, for war crimes, war apology and murder of innocents (a real genocide in Afghanistan and Iraq)!

Where is the strength of american people? Are you all blind and brainwashed? Where is the proud of your democracy and freedom of speech? Go to streets! Cry for justice!!!

[DesmondMead]

@campbra- If you don't know the difference, then it is you who are brainwashed. YOU go to the street. Idiot.

[campbra]

@DesmondMead If you don’t have a job, if you know someone who is unemployed, blame it on Bush.

[dragonriders729]

This is what it should mean to be an American, but for far too many of us, is beyond our capabilities or beyond our morality. RIGHT AND WRONG HAVE MEANING. In your heart, you are deaf to all of the excuses you verbally give to not do the right thing. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ARE RATIONALIZING! You've just stopped listening to that voice of conscience we all have. STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT, EVEN IF YOU KNOW YOU HAVEN'T GOT A SHOT AT "WINNING". Don Quixote for President in 2012!

[morrisseyfan64]

we are imperfect beings.we are capable of anything against our fellow man.

[bkinblck]

Wars are about money. Period. When anything is based on JUST money, ugliness and hatred come along with it.

[Mrpastry909]

All germans knew about the holocaust. People in America knew. German citizens participated in the killings. Only those who spoke out against Nazism or hid Jews are not to blame.

[arteche53]

the absolute value of a single human being. abortion, the new holocost

[mortislocke]

SHATNER!

[Nguli34689]

@mortislocke Colonel Clink

[brianh406]

Religion IS the ROOT of ALL Evil.

[mrbeans19]

that was captain kirk at the beginning

[grandconjunct]

There is a law above all earthly laws that we measure them by.

If non-religious people don't eventually learn this simple fact we will only keep making same mistakes of hitler, Mao , Stalin and other Relativists , If Relativism is true this is just mammals in black robes judgeing other mammals who simply killed other animals in a meaningless disposable Universe .

[Nauticus89]

Morals can be viewed as "above earthly things", but please do not assert that non-religious people are incapable of holding them or simultaneously imply that all religious people have them. No matter if morals are earthly or divine; as long as we have them, we're on the right track. After all, the Golden Rule espoused by most religions says nothing about a divine mandate.

[elroy2112]

Nauticus grand is not saying atheists can't be Moral, He is saying Atheists can't give a good reason for being moral , big big diffrence , " Earthly morals" is just a smoke screen for atheists simply vote on whats moral and when they get control of goverment like Mao did, they don't have to worry about other voters anymore , but can decide for themselves, atheists like Mao reasoned that people who got in his way were disposable mammals, atheism has no resources to condemn Mao's earthly ethics

[warwize]

and people pick and choose which divine ethics they want to subscribe to, or they are indoctrinated into them and see no alternatives.

whats the difference?

[brianh406]

"non-religious" Soooo with religion all the worlds violence will go away?

[BelfastAtheist]

War without religion is like ant without dec, it could happen; but what would be the fucking point? All wars stem from religion. Well, nearly all.

[spirithound]

WW I and WW II?

[BelfastAtheist]

@spirithound

You do know there were wars before the great two, right? Quite a lot as it goes; and guess what, the majority were about religion..

[spirithound]

@BelfastAtheist Let me help you out here. Vietnam: not religious. Korea: not religious. American Civil War: not religious. American War of Independence: ok, maybe that's religious in the sense that they were fighting to be able to have their own religion. War of 1812: not religious Boer War: not religious Every act of British imperialism: not religious. Franco-Prussian War: not religious Hundred Years' War: not religious Russian Revolution: not religious Boxer Rebellion: not religious

[timebandit71]

@spirithound christians killing christians with the churches blessings. dont tell me religion hasnt played a part in these wars....

[spirithound]

@timebandit71 lol, seriously?? I suppose most wars have some religious component in that most people are religious in some way, but the above-mentioned wars are all wars of *political* aggression.

[amet1980]

@grandconjunct or we are going to continue doing the horrors of hittler ,agglican british, protestand americans , muslims araps, catholic french and spanish, shintoist japanese and all the other religious moralists that killed few hundreads of millions just in the 21thst century..

how many atheist scandinavia has killed?

[Taramriel]

Religious people are a lot like Holocaust deniers.

[timebandit71]

arent jewish people religious?

[Taramriel]

Yes, and therein likes the exception to my Holocaust denier rule. I'm sure you could have worked it out by yourself.

[timebandit71]

the nazies didnt strike me to be a very religous people either. Perhaps if they had the holocaust might not have happened.

[bradford71us]

@timebandit71 no, not all. judaism is more of a culture than a religion or 'race', but certainly the culture has elements of both religion and race. hereditary history is a fact and its part of that culture.

[fuzzydancer75]

I think this movie conveys the american/free world principals. Sure the movie isnt historically accurate to the tee but for the time it didnt need to. Listen to the court's justification of it's vertict. That explanation is what america and free thinkers stand for justice, truth, and the value of a single human being.

[lmlyon]

The matter regarding the nature of American/free world principles" are still being decided. The question will be in doubt until the investigation of war crimes in Iraq.

[sacopenapa]

Bush/Chenney Hague 2009!

[ChristopherLaRock]

We wouldn't have the backbone to bring war criminals to justice like this today. Political correctness has made us into wimps.

[ArianeQube]

@ChristopherLaRock Of course we couldn't, we kiss Russia's ass, instead of bringing all the communist criminals to trial and execution

[KASHIV12]

@ChristopherLaRock Your statement is completely opiniated, if there is ever a war criminal who broke war crimes and commited extreme fucked up acts like the Nazi did to the Jews, I am sure that justice would be done.

[krazymanrebirth]

@ChristopherLaRock I guess you didnt see the video of Hussein being hung. Do your research... Did you even see the news clips of hussein hiding in a hole in the ground? did you see the condition he was in? he was hiding like a rat. Wimps? you should see the warzone my fellow american. Before you call america wimps, look away from the mirror and into the sea of justice and valley of death.

[LaughingMage]

@ChristopherLaRock What is up with people like you and "political correctness" ? How the FUCK would political correctness prevent us from hanging war criminals?

We don't hang war criminals because... guess what... we're SUPPORTING THEM FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT. Not because we don't have the "backbone" or we're too "politically correct"

[ilalfisto]

Bravo.

This should be required viewing for every Head of State.

And for anyone entrusted with the power of deciding life and death.

[tgc1600]

no they should not because this movie clouds the truth of what happened. It was an international court with jusges from England, Russia, France and the United States of America. Why are they not all portrayed in this film. And they certainly did not say 'God bless america' at the start of the trial. Not a bad movie but it is typical of holywood distorting history for the sake of the american poplulas.

[ilalfisto]

You're absolutely right re dishonest nationalism.

But my admiration for Tracy's monologue stands, even if it turns out to have been written by a script-writer!

[tgc1600]

I see your point. The moral of Tracy's speech holds certain truths applicable to any head of state. But to move away from your point I hope that people who are interested in this history do not just rely on films.

[Quondom]

@tgc1600 There were a series of Nazi trials in Nuremberg. Only the first trial, of the major offenders, was an international tribunal. The following trials were conducted by the United States, which was the occupational power for the southern part of Germany which includes Nuremberg. Different trials were conducted in the other occupational zones. The movie is painstakingly accurate.

[mrwolfrisolvoproblem]

@tgc1600 This is not true. Judges from winner countries only presidieted the main trial. Other trials (against doctors, judges, industrials, etc.) have been celebrated only by American authorities.

[jpatrickbad]

@tgc1600 Actually they did say God Bless America, Why? Because the USA just got done freeing Europe(and world), fighting japan singlehandly, instituting The Marshall Plan, feeding Europe, they were starving we fed most of them until their crops came back in. rebuilt the govt's., cities, and laid the groundwork for the United Nations. And it was America's choice to set the trials at Nuremburg, AND 1st time ever create crimes against humainty. Conspiracy to commit war crimes, against humanity.

[cnmmedic218]

@jpatrickbad "USA just got done freeing Europe(and world), fighting japan singlehandly," That is not true it wasn't single handed. I hope God blesses all nations.

[bradford71us]

@cnmmedic218 fact is....the russians won the war. they lost more men, more land and had more soldiers than any other country.

[cnmmedic218]

@bradford71us I believe they call it "the Great Patriotic War" It was perceded by very bad behaviour towards the Baltic states, Poland and Finland. From a territory point of view they gained the most (and also from a sacrifice stand point they lost the most).

[bradford71us]

@cnmmedic218 this is why Russia actually won the war. russia, more than any other country, fought the hardest, under the worst conditions.

[bradford71us]

@tgc1600 the great thing about these trials is that they are an argument AGAINST THEMSELVES and for INDIVIDUAL choices, not governmental choices. listen to what he says again.

[fdsa397]

@tgc1600

Really? This was after the international trials. Nuremberg was part of America's sector of Germany, and these were just the bureaucrats that remained. The trials of the judges were only held by the U.S. Military Courts. Good job learning your history, your parents are proud of you.

[DoBrigh]

@tgc1600 plus uhm, the entire text of the verdict has been changed. but uhm yeah.

[fredgranata]

What a performance! What male judge would not want to be portrayed by Spencer Tracy!!

[jokr8790]

You know. I just checked and you're right. I had forgotten the bombing of Iraq by Clinton as well as his imposition of sanctions that were also responsible for the deaths of untold millions. I would have no problem with him and any of his administration who were responsible for the policy standing in the dock alongside Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the other thugs in the current administration.

[shagywashere]

Yes, many people forget about what Clinton did during his administration. In fact it can be said that Clinton basically set up the war with Iraq with those policies.

[jokr8790]

Well, no. I think the seeds were sown by Bush I and likely before that, with the Raygun Administration. How much of this was inevitable due to 60 yrs of bad foreign policy in the middle-east has yet to be determined. What bothered me most about Clinton was the sabre rattling about Iraq the nearer impeachment got. But neither Clintons are as responsible as Bush II for the latest fiasco. But there's enough guilt to spread around.

[jokr8790]

I guess it would be too much to expect this final judgment or one like at at the conclusion of war crimes trials for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Tenent, Hayden and others. It will be interesting to see how the United States Supreme Court rules in the Gitmo detention cases.

[dseanmat]

Comparing the genocidal legacy of the Third Reich with the Republican party leadership in the United States is hopelessly ignorant. You are not only demonizing those who disagree with you; you are also minimizing the awful truth of what happened in totalitarian Europe under Nazi domination and in east Asia under imperial Japan. And incidentally, I notice you left out Bill and Hillary Clinton in your laundry list of those whom you apparently blame for the situation in Iraq.

[jokr8790]

Bill Clinton did not invade Iraq. Hillary Clinton supported the Bush Administration which is 1 factor as to why she is NOT the Democratic nominee. As to demonizing those who disagree with me, I do not, history will. Merely because the crimes of the Bush Administration did not rise to the level of the Third Reich and Japan does not mean they are innocent of war crimes. We do not have the number s killed from "shock and awe. Reminds me of the Nazi's "Sturm and Drang." They only killed thousands?

[dseanmat]

How many times did Clinton bomb Iraq? What about his sanctions against that country which are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands? I guess (like most liberals) you only fault the "crimes" of those with whose politics you disagree.

[ilalfisto]

Killing innocent women and children is OK, as long as it's done by the Status Quo.

And no American was killed by "Shock and Awe", so why would you expect anyone to care?

[bearcub410]

we need to hear this now more than ever . thank you!!!

[7772399]

A rather young looking William Shatner appears at the beginning of the clip.

[danimator]

Amazing scene from an absolutely devastating film. JAN needs to be seen in every history class.