Creationism in the Classroom - 20th March - Part 2

[Mogley52]

ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)

[Mogley52]

SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)

[Mogley52]

CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY. Read this Internet article. Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. Given enough time, all of the energy becomes useless and the universe cannot be sustained. Even in an open system, there has to be an already existing energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.

[Mogley52]

EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.

[Mogley52]

NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.

[Mogley52]

ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!

[Mogley52]

IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!

[Mogley52]

DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.

[Mogley52]

WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.

[Mogley52]

EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?

[Mogley52]

ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH! Read this Internet article. According to Newsweek quoting a NASA scientist, in the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (now meteors) into outer space which could have reached Mars. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil.

[Mogley52]

THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, etc., etc.).

[Bleakillusion]

I know 3 atheists personally who dont support evolution,

[mamolian]

What age is that Zack kid again? :p id hit it. :tarp:

[suzukix5owner]

Oh my god ive just realised what is happening in America.I could come into a classroom and tell kids that Jesus came to earth in a U.F.O and created everything.Then if someone wanted to stop me teaching this they would have to come up with at least $1000000 in order to take me to court to stop me.Sorry America your doomed.

[suzukix5owner]

Whooo did Aron ra just get owned by Mrs scott

[drifter848]

why cant science and biology and math be taught in public schools and all the diff religios people can send there kids to a religious school why is it so important for a religious person to force the belief in not all gods jst there god if they want there kids tobe taught lies and dogma and get a second rate education why force other peoples children to suffer its selfish and closed minded send your kids to a catholic or whatevr denmination if u want them believing 2 people lived in a whales tum

[evilotakuneko]

@drifter848 They don't believe science and think their kids are being lied to.

[DTiberius]

Lol...  I didn't know that's what Abracadabra meant... That explains alot.

[dragonmaster613]

man used religion then what we use scince for now

[wakeangel2001]

on raelians, that reminds me of an episode of star trek, which actually presents a possible way to TEST for ID. They found a program hidden in our DNA which contained a message from an alien that basically said "4 billion years ago we used nanotech to make sure you'd evolve to look kind of like us, hope you like it." That's something we could actually LOOK for in our own DNA, it's not likely we'd find it, but it WOULD prove ID on Earth at least.

[steveb0503]

@wakeangel2001 Yeah, it's a TNG episode titled: "The Chase" and it's one of my favorites.

But the algorithm was completed only when samples of human, klingon , AND cardassian DNA were put together something they only knew to do from independent clues pointing to this necessity.

[spamllpitdept]

@steveb0503 - TNG was fucking epic. I remember watching those as a kid.

[AndrewTheEternal]

@spamllpitdept

Apropos of nothing, the first TNG episode I saw?

'Devil's Due'

Not really surprising that I prefer TNG to TOS, is it?

[spamllpitdept]

@AndrewTheEternal - TNG > TOS

[a300pilotster]

Awesome.