Dir en Grey (ディル アン グレイ)- Vinushka [PV] [HD] [SUB]

[ooinarubaka]

@brutaltruthanthrax

戦争を題材にする事で世の事を真剣に考えてる俺らカッケーって悦­に入ってるとしたらクソ以下だな。

でも本当に、本気で、真剣に戦争の痛みを理解しようとぶつかり、­心の底からそれを世界へ表現しようとして出来た曲ならば素晴らし­い曲だと思う

後者であると信じたい。

[Sakuradangomochi]

日米戦わば「日本必敗」。それが分かっていてももう動き出した歯­車は誰にも止められず、めちゃくちゃになっていく当時の状況を見­ているようで息が詰まりました。

戦後、ＧＨＱが行ったWar Guilt Information Programによってもはや真実が何か分からなくなってしまっ­た。

いつになったらこの呪縛から解き放たれる時が来るのでしょうか。

改めて色んな事を考えさせられるＰＶでした。とてもかっこよかっ­たです。

[RX7FD3S0901]

世界観がすごいな

[waspishornet]

これオーケストラ風にアレンジしたら面白そうｗｗｗ

それにしてもたった5人で作り上げたとは思えないな・・・・・

[TheOdaken]

もはや呪いとも言えるレベルの狂気。

[JLVB5]

hiroshima and nagasaki bomb`s u_u

[kerosuwa0622]

いいじゃん♪

[nekolita]

deciever... thats what vinushka means in indian from india

[ferovader419]

heey does anyone know the name of the album this song is in??

[Auzziedingo]

@ferovader419 Uroboros :)

[ferovader419]

@Auzziedingo =) thanks!

[Kusumi4chan]

I just had to read more about the war after this song. There were few pictures and etc. I wanted to cry so badly... This is so...wrong ;________;

[Kiryu394]

it makes me sad that even though this was over 60 years ago, we would kill innocent people, men, women, and children, and not a single soul in America gives a damn. for those that care, we shouldn't let something like this happen again and bring peace to all. for those that don't care...... burn in hell

[d34thfr0m4b0v3]

amazing song

[sirbernabeu93]

RIP japanese people who died in March's tsunami.

[Sinappivoileipa]

all people are innocent equally not judged by their actions. Its just human nature to hurt one another

[MR2LANE]

Thank you for both your arguments. While I did not learn anything new, It has always been fascinating to hear clear, well thought out, subjective opinions. One problem though, wrong place. I would like to see the continuation of the debate, elsewhere. For the last week i have been reading the comments on a lot of the dir en gray vid's, Its amazing how one group of people (diru) can bring out so much hostility to one another.

[arikoyamato]

You all overplay 9-11, it wasn't that big a deal. I would never deny that we have troops in Afghanistan, I never said I supported Canada's troops either, the entire thing is stupid. The Japanese had the right to attack Pearl Harbour, and I'm not saying that the U.S shouldn't have had some kind of retributive justice... But to drop a nuke on them? That's overdoing it. Almost any non-American historian will testify to the fact that the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing was a plot to scare Russia.

[DoctorCrube]

@arikoyamato Loss of hundreds of lives on 9/11 is not a big deal? Are you that dense? Japan was literally attacking neighboring islands in attempts to gather natural resources and they literally had no right to attack Pearl Harbor. If the United States didn't drop the nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there would have been more casualties on both sides if the war continued past the point. And you complain about the United States overdoing it when you wish the same actions to the U.S.?

[DoctorCrube]

@arikoyamato But really, quit using strawman arguments. It's bad enough that I actually responded to those in the first place. Keep in mind that people of all nationalities were within the World Trade Centers when they were struck down that morning. You can't pick and choose what loss of life you can mourn, especially en mass regardless if it was a cowardly attack (9/11) or a retaliatory attack (Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Pearl Harbor, etc.) A loss of human life is always a tragedy regardless.

[arikoyamato]

@DoctorCrube This is only true if your view of human life other than your own is high. 9/11 was not a cowardly attack btw. It was a carefully plotted act that, as it had, worked marvelously. It scared the crap out of the people it was meant to... I cannot say that it served its purpose, but I can say that it was a well executed plot. It would have only been better had the fourth plane hit the White

House.

[DoctorCrube]

@arikoyamato Outside the Pentagon and White House, how was attacking a non-military target such as the World Trades Centers not a cowardly attack? Regardless if it was masterfully crafted or not? Now, here's the part where you might try and turn the tables on me by saying that the bombings of the three Japanese cities are "cowardly," but here's the major difference: it was during a time of war. The attacks on American soil were cowardly attacks.

[DoctorCrube]

@arikoyamato The difference between Pearl Harbor and 9/11 is usage of civilian commercial airline jets. Using something like that as a weapon was never considered by Al-Qaida before. The passengers on the flight that fell to Earth was adverted because the passengers found out from the previous crashes via cellular communication and thus risked their own lives to prevent whatever target they had in mind. It could have been Congress or the White House.

[AarinHikaKao]

@arikoyamato lol internet is srs bsnss.

[arikoyamato]

@AarinHikaKao yo're absolutely right... This fight is pointless, I hate reading fights while watching a video... let's stop this now, we won't convince each other, there is no clear objective to or fight. I'll apologize for making such a deal out of it.

[RockLeePeaceGai]

Thank you, Dir en grey, for exposing the harshness of reality in your music. "No one wants to talk about the truth that hurts the ear ,The suppressed minds". The truth is war happens. The other truth, we can learn to move on from these terrible things and fix what generations before us have not managed to do. Most countries participating in WWII did something wrong. All we can do is learn from their mistakes and try not to repeat them.

[DoctorCrube]

Even though Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the fire bombings of Tokyo were awful; you have to remember that it was an act of revenge. After all, Japan was the first ones who attacked at Pearl Harbor. And if you don't know anything about history, look up the Rape of Nanking and Unit 731: atrocities that the Japanese Empire have done upon innocent Chinese.

[arikoyamato]

@DoctorCrube 'tis been proven wrong. Japan was under the impressiont hat wthey were under attack just before they decided to retaliate. I'm not taking Japans side... because they did some nasty stuff before and during WWII.... But if you're goign to say things, know the true facts.

[DoctorCrube]

@arikoyamato What's been proven wrong? The fact that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, regardless of what triggered it? The point I was trying to make is that there are no real winners in war. Plus, I would love to know your sources.

[DoctorCrube]

@arikoyamato And if you're trying to refer to the cutting of the natural resources, that was a retaliation to the fact that the Japanese Empire allied themselves with Nazi Germany. But other than that... give me some sources.

[arikoyamato]

@DoctorCrube Yes that is what I'm referring to, thank you for elaborating. Pearl Harbour was nothing really..... I'm sure the U.S doesn't beleive they should be nuked for what they've done in Afghanistan, now do they? The U.S. really should be nuked though........ I know it would affect me here in Canada... but they need something to let them know they aren't all that.

[DoctorCrube]

@arikoyamato Sinking more or less the entire Pacific fleet is NOT NOTHING. Militarily, it's a larger victory over the nuclear bomb drops and the fire bombing. Plus, you're aware that there are at least upward to three thousand Canadian troops stationed in Afghanistan. (Even though it's a margin, you still can't deny their presence in the conflict.)

[AvengedArsonist]

what we americans did that day was foolish, wreckless and by far one of the biggest atrocities we ever commited. nothing can change the sins of the past...however the past should remain where it is, remembered but not forgotten. all we can do now is head tomorrow and hopefully forge a brighter future for all without all this senseless violence

much love friends -_-

[pauliazz94]

americans = when they are losing they bomb innocent people ~

[jason194761]

@pauliazz94 yea sorry bout that :/ i honestly thought it was wrong......the past is the past...we must build peace

:)

[IgorBarkowsky]

Очень сильное видео. Хотя певец мог бы и не кривляться перед камерой, а просто положить песню на документальную хронику событий.

Мир должен знать своих "героев".

[tatibanatizuru]

これ規制版？



[pinky666pinkybu]

so cool....

[tuulenkoti]

@exoticarfan agreed times a million ! fuckin fangirls ruin concerts

[kimyuri89]

moustachie haha :D

[julieta12012]

esta chingonzizimo!!!!!!!

[BlazedAsian]

HELP! I hope to go to a Dir en Grey concert in the US one day. Problem is my friends aren't fans and they like Rap and/or soft rock. How can I find someone comfortable to go with me. I don't want to go alone.

[prznt]

@BlazedAsian you just can go all alone - no worries, you will meet and make some new friends there along the way - most of DEG fans might be quite douche-y and tardy nowadays but some are very friendly, compared to your everyday metalheads...

[Cyproduction]

Wow, people defending their countries while their government doesn't even give a shit about you, to them you are just a number, you are nothing...

While you are forgetting something... this song >_<

[jibber102]

I've studied quite a bit about WWII, and in regards to the bombings, I think it was both merciful and terrible. The Japanese government and military was so proud and believed that their souls would stay to protect Japan after a noble death, so their surrender was near impossible. The Allies knew continuing the war would lead to more casualties and almost a complete destruction of Japan, but they didn't want to destroy Japan. Thus, the bombs were chosen. It's a such tragedy, but I understand why.

[siriusql]

@jibber102 you know nothing... In fact a letter for submission was sent to the US... BEFORE the bombing...

Those bombing were nothing more but a damn test that cost the life of million victims, and still nowadays...

This is unforgivable. Unforgivable... you cannot "understand why" ffs....

[jibber102]

@siriusql Hmm, I haven't heard about the submission letter, but if that is true then it could change my mind. But the bombs did stop the war, which, if you take out all other negative connotations, was a plus. We will never know if the war and other civilian lives could have been saved in a better manner. It's the past, and at least the countries are now at terms of peace. And on a different note, I think this song very accurately portrays the sadness.

[siriusql]

@jibber102 We we'll never know if the letter is true, I can't even find the site again -___- (but i'll do !)

I'll never, never, accept that, you cannont say that in ANYWAY it was 'a plus' seriously, you don't end a war killin thousands people and saying "it was in order not to kill too many people"

Plus, why TWO bombs ? have you ever thought of it ? One would have been enough, this doesn't make sense, at all, you have to be an american soldier to believe such bullshit. Please open your eyes,

[siriusql]

@jibber102 America at that time just wanted to end the war to keep THEIR soldiers alive, they nuked japan just to make the big show so that USSR wouldn't open her mouth too big. Those nuke bombing just lead us toward the cold war. Without hiroshima and nagasaki, maybe USSR would have nuked America, and we would all be sleeping in peace now... and Japan would be the leader with china, we would'nt have a sub-culture that means nothing. Even thought Japan did some bad things too, there is no reason

[NiklaaasSu]

Ohh I can't believe how this song can be so fucking awesome!

Fucking love it ♥ ♥ ♥

[MiyavisGuitar]

War is fucked up. And all that "they started" and "they did" crap dosn't matter! Grown ups teach children not to figth, and hit each other. Well who'd they learn it from?

This song is great, by the way. I've been a fan for a long time, and I love how they don't just stick to the old, but they try new styles. This is amazing.

[BustedZen]

Fantastic Song

[BassicLeigh]

@gxrcix525 Japan hadn't even declared war on the united states until two hours after the bombings. We had no warning or formal declaration and we even made it abundantly clear to the world that we were neutral and wanted to stay out of the war.

[BassicLeigh]

I was saying that they were both an unnecessary loss of life, not that both were civilian. I can see the confusion and that's my fault.

[martinikei]

hizaki youre right,but im Japan lover and it was apparent in my tense :) im from Poland and i know, what does it mean to have war,and be under partition :)

[MODISK12]

戦争の凄まじさがひしひしと伝わってくる...。

Dir en greyがこんなにもすごいバンドだったなんて...もっと早く­知っていれば良かった。

[MODISK12]

戦争の凄まじさがひしひしと伝わってくる...。

Dir en greyがこんなにもすごいバンドだったなんて...もっと早く­知っていれば良かった。

[BassicLeigh]

would have produced just as many, if not more casualties.

The ugly truth is that war always means death and countries need to figure out what an "acceptable" amount of causalities are. Normally that means military and not civilian losses, but some can't be avoided. This, I feel, was an unnecessary loss of civilian life... but so was Pearl Harbor. At the time we weren't even at war and had no warning.

So who's to blame? Both sides are equally at fault.

That's what I get from this song.

[Vol4eg01]

@BassicLeigh what are u talkin about? Pearl Harbor was a military base.

[gxrcix525]

@BassicLeigh the U.S. did know about the attack retard and japan had more deaths than stupid pearl harbor

[BassicLeigh]

Were the bombings excessive? Of course. But were they unprovoked? Hardly.

Most don't realize the events preceding the bombs, including all the facts surrounding Pearl Harbor. Even after that, we didn't directly counterattack with the A-bombs. There was a gap of about 4 years in between those two attacks and numerous chances were had on both sides to end the war.

So now was the dropping of the bombs justified? I don't believe so, however the alternative was a land invasion which (cont.)

[martinikei]

whoah... now im proud that im from Poland, not from USA. I can with clean conscience live in Japan in the future. I think , that only Japanese people can imagine pain and suffering due to americans no mercy. I consider too,that Japan remember...Sorry for mistakes,but my english teacher is idiot :) Greetings from Poland to very beautiful Japan :)

[martinikei]

i hope you will understand :) grettings for good people from USA too :)

[DigitalDevil94]

@martinikei However few we may be, sadly...

[martinikei]

@DigitalDevil94  proud?

[DigitalDevil94]

@martinikei No... good people from the US.

[martinikei]

@DigitalDevil94. I see you are good man. I consider that youre,because you listens DEG :)

[Hizakix92]

@martinikei Your history teacher is an idiot as well. The japanese shown so little mercy to the american POW's.also not to mention the USA warned the japanese that unforeseen devastation will occur if they didn't back out of the war. After the first bombings the USA asked japan to surrender and they didn't so they droped the second bomb.

[aliceko928]

戦争がテーマなんだよね

なんかもう素晴らしいという言葉しか出てきませんね

[milkdokidoki]

いよいよ芸術の域に達した...!Dir en grey大好きだー!!

[Bishitsu]

Two retards are totally senseless

[bfdjkku]

社会に抵抗し、暗闇を世にあぶりだす・・・これこそがロックの本­来。彼らはデビューからそれを一貫している。あっぱれ。

[zionexcalibur]

for once i really felt the pains of the japanese

[loveMovementJ]

@zionexcalibur i dont feel sh!t i jsut feel that insane guitar

[zionexcalibur]

@loveMovementJ awesome isn't it?

[loveMovementJ]

@zionexcalibur yes!

[loveMovementJ]

@zionexcalibur thats why i've been learnign the song :)

[iino5963]

初めてＰＶ見た時泣いた

これはいい曲

[AnotherYaoiFreak]

I like how they are more invested in the music and less on their appearance now ^^ Visual Kei was good, but this is epic

[tositosi1578]

傑作！！！名曲！！

[Yuuta7810]

クソ以下だと思うなら

観るな

俺は素晴らしいと思うけどね

[MUSICimmortalmelody]

kyo's voice is amazing as always!!<333

a great song from a great band!!

[swimmerforlife789]

They sang about Unit 731 as well. They cant do all the war crime in one song! And I dont think they are taking any side.

[yergrid8795ne]

壮絶と言う他ない・・

[motsuaki]

完成度がすごいですね



[kyenkagami]

censured :S



[TheBlueTokyo]

いいね！

[goldenboy23s]

This song is not just Hiroshima and the bombs. It's positing and questioning the idea that Japan's previous war crimes with China and blind dedication to Japanese Imperialism where the cause of an overly aggressive war. The Japanese are blind to their nations role in this war... even today. That's what I take from it.

[BenjaminPortable]

Even tho I don't understand a word he sings... Why do I still get tears in my eyes? :'<

[Nesveri]

@BenjaminPortable That's the power these songs have. DEG is full of emotions.

[moemoe20092007]

... huh when I seen the documentry oh hiroshima's nuke drop my eyes teared.. is this right? a harbour for a city? ... ¬¬ to hell with you... and to drop a second one.. what can I say.. if japanese blood doesn't flow in my body, then dir en grey does.. Nihon forever

[Kiryu394]

so this song is about Hiroshima?

[quatoe]

When Kyo screams....i get shivers down my spine.

[Satou621]

RIP Innocent Hiroshima victims..

[P0oDoll]

@Satou621

don't forget the ones who didn't die + the ones who didn't even exist yet then..

[GuitarNiimura]

@Satou621 we must also remember Nagasaki...

[gomezf87]

@GuitarNiimura Also Pearl Harbor and everyone else who died in WWII like about 30 Million other people.

[GuitarNiimura]

@gomezf87 uhm, maybe u should take in twice the amount of 30 + a couple of millions more, so that u get the right number of killed people in ww2?

it died more than 30 million just in Asia/the pacific alone x((((((( ... then u need the numbers from Europe, Africa etc too...

[gomezf87]

@GuitarNiimura lol u mad?

[GuitarNiimura]

@gomezf87 nope... don't u know history at all??? u should know this from school!

[gomezf87]

@GuitarNiimura Nah you can just go fuck yourself. 

[GuitarNiimura]

@gomezf87 WTF!? obviously, ur a complete retard - -

[gomezf87]

@GuitarNiimura lol you mad faggot look at how angry I got you haha.

[direngreyvideoz]

@gomezf87 and @GuitarNiimura

Okay. I'm going to have to ask both of you to please stop throwing slurs around. If you both want to continue arguing, please do it elsewhere. Thank you.

[GuitarNiimura]

@direngreyvideoz arguing? lol the guy/girl is a complete retard xP cannot argue with such people! :P

I agree, and shall stop^^

[GuitarNiimura]

@gomezf87 Mad? lol, just shocked by your stupidity ;)

[gomezf87]

@GuitarNiimura Wow how boring is your life if you're shocked by something like that lol fail much.

[direngreyvideoz]

@gomezf87

I thought I had asked you to stop this nonsense. -.- Take it somewhere else. This is your last warning.

[GuitarNiimura]

@TeeHeeHee123 yeah, and the 20 million innocent civil people getting killed by Japanese soldiers...

[seolma]

@Satou621

RIP innocent unit 631 victims..



[Lakers2601]

@seolma It's 731.